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Title: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Nether Animal on May 13, 2017, 03:03:26 PM
2006 Ronnie was still a monster and arguably should have won his 9th Sandow. So what happened in '07? It's like he didn't even try. Conditioning, size, etc.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Nether Animal on May 13, 2017, 03:05:23 PM
For reference here is 2006.... left arm atrophying but still mostly there.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: calfzilla on May 13, 2017, 03:15:43 PM
I think he was ingured.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on May 13, 2017, 03:17:36 PM
Maybe he was tired
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 13, 2017, 03:25:37 PM
It's called aging. You can't stay on top forever.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Bosch on May 13, 2017, 04:05:32 PM
Wolf should have won there, with Martinez close second.
The judging that year was utter nonsense that once and for all killed Olympia as a competition.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=172274.0;attach=200150;image)
(http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=43659&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(https://pp.vk.me/c624216/v624216024/1eb7a/KPSdrBK3vXk.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-I74CkZ2zjJY/UQIcy9eGOwI/AAAAAAAAEko/T5f4QOgI8KM/s1600/VictorMartinez-MD-Feb2013-PerBernal-869.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_vzu_kLEKAE/UQIc0MXy03I/AAAAAAAAEk8/uAHp_55mo0E/s1600/VictorMartinez-MD-Feb2013-PerBernal-873.jpg)
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Schmoff on May 13, 2017, 04:07:07 PM
the body probably couldn't hold no more
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: SF1900 on May 13, 2017, 04:12:33 PM
Nether Animal, serious questions:

If you can go on a date with any bodybuilder, who would you choose?
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: TRIX on May 13, 2017, 04:13:43 PM
He started training in his home gym mainly that year
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Nether Animal on May 13, 2017, 04:15:54 PM
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Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: pellius on May 13, 2017, 04:20:05 PM
The drive was still there. The body was not. Injuries and age. Happens to everybody.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Bevo on May 13, 2017, 04:23:33 PM
Aside from a few good showings, Vic is sooo overrated
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on May 14, 2017, 06:46:22 AM
Wolf should have won there, with Martinez close second.
The judging that year was utter nonsense that once and for all killed Olympia as a competition.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=172274.0;attach=200150;image)
(http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=43659&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(https://pp.vk.me/c624216/v624216024/1eb7a/KPSdrBK3vXk.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-I74CkZ2zjJY/UQIcy9eGOwI/AAAAAAAAEko/T5f4QOgI8KM/s1600/VictorMartinez-MD-Feb2013-PerBernal-869.jpg)Viic,1 Wolf 2. Jay should have been 4th.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_vzu_kLEKAE/UQIc0MXy03I/AAAAAAAAEk8/uAHp_55mo0E/s1600/VictorMartinez-MD-Feb2013-PerBernal-873.jpg)
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 14, 2017, 07:43:50 AM
2006 Ronnie was still a monster and arguably should have won his 9th Sandow. So what happened in '07? It's like he didn't even try. Conditioning, size, etc.


By 2005, it was pretty clear that Ronnie's receptors were beginning to burn out.  It would not matter how hard or how long he dieted as the body simply started to break down and stop responding.  Looking at Ronnie today and its very clear that they no longer work at all.  He has no natural testosterone production and his bones have become very brittle as the accelerated growth from anabolic use.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Strongmanfan on May 14, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
I like when people say that judging like that is the reason why bodybuilding is not a mainstream enterprise.  ;D

Nah, lol.or , h

Bodybuilding is a pageant of massive men in thongs, hence why it isn't mainstream.  Hope this helps.  :)
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Anywho, in 2006, after losing to Jay, Ronnie decided to stay on gear for the full 12 month period between the Olympia that year and the Olympia in 2007.  He stayed on the gas - lots of it - for the full year, rather than take his usual several months break.  Normally, Ronnie wouldn't start training - and thus juicing - until the Arnold.  From there, Arnold additionally chose to come in "small", as he did in 2005 - around 275-lb.  That was the year that IFBB came out with the mandate for bodybuilders to come in around 85% of their normal size, with smaller waists.

It did not work out for Ronnie.  He could not downsize.  He needed to come in like he did in 2006 - huge, at 285 to 300.  Had that happened, he could have legitimiately beaten Jay and Dexter, and been gifted a win over Victor.  As for Wolf...I do not think he won that year.  Second to Victor?  Maybe.  I do think Wolf was better than Jay and Ronnie that year - and WAY bigger than Dexter.

As for Ronnie, again, had he came in simply looking exactly as he did in 2006, he could have been gifted a more credible win than Jay was.  At least looking like that, one could say Ronnie was 3rd.  As opposed to Jay - who was 5th, yet gifted 1st.

So being on gear year-round and over-dieting did nothing for Ronnie.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 14, 2017, 10:00:50 AM
Cutler was so shitty in 07. 
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on May 14, 2017, 10:32:38 AM
Horrible physique. Terrible midsection, busted up body. Thank fuck the dumb bastard is retired (and a cripple) now
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: OLKE_TEXAS on May 14, 2017, 01:32:18 PM
The drive was still there. The body was not. Injuries and age. Happens to everybody.

2x

extra muscle tears, more nerve damage because of neckdisc problems.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: DroppingPlates on May 14, 2017, 01:43:58 PM
Injury from T bar rows with a retard load
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Parker on May 14, 2017, 01:49:24 PM
Wolf should have won there, with Martinez close second.
The judging that year was utter nonsense that once and for all killed Olympia as a competition.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=172274.0;attach=200150;image)
(http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=43659&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(https://pp.vk.me/c624216/v624216024/1eb7a/KPSdrBK3vXk.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-I74CkZ2zjJY/UQIcy9eGOwI/AAAAAAAAEko/T5f4QOgI8KM/s1600/VictorMartinez-MD-Feb2013-PerBernal-869.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_vzu_kLEKAE/UQIc0MXy03I/AAAAAAAAEk8/uAHp_55mo0E/s1600/VictorMartinez-MD-Feb2013-PerBernal-873.jpg)
Toss up between Wolf and Vic that year.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: ESFitness on May 14, 2017, 05:06:43 PM

By 2005, it was pretty clear that Ronnie's receptors were beginning to burn out.  It would not matter how hard or how long he dieted as the body simply started to break down and stop responding.  Looking at Ronnie today and its very clear that they no longer work at all.  He has no natural testosterone production and his bones have become very brittle as the accelerated growth from anabolic use.

When it comes to steroids, you should probably refrain from speaking.

Saying his body has no more natural testosterone? Thats true for EVERYBODY after years of use.

Bones are brittle? Has he broken any bones? Lol jesus.. Just dont speak. Bone loss from "steroids" is related to CATABOLIC steroids. Jesus fuck.

And looking at ronnie today its clear something still works. Seeing as his LBM % is still a goddamn great deal above what "normal" people are.... Including somebody like shawn ray.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: specter on May 14, 2017, 05:25:45 PM
When it comes to steroids, you should probably refrain from speaking.

Saying his body has no more natural testosterone? Thats true for EVERYBODY after years of use.

Bones are brittle? Has he broken any bones? Lol jesus.. Just dont speak. Bone loss from "steroids" is related to CATABOLIC steroids. Jesus fuck.

And looking at ronnie today its clear something still works. Seeing as his LBM % is still a goddamn great deal above what "normal" people are.... Including somebody like shawn ray.
And there is no such thing as receptor burnout, if you read the medical litterature on roids the body actually produce more receptors during prolonged androgen use.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: The Keto Kid on May 14, 2017, 05:46:31 PM
Maybe it was a lack of micronutrients, dude never ate a single veggie or fruit other then potato, he even talks about it in his videos.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Nether Animal on May 15, 2017, 02:25:01 AM
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Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Nether Animal on May 15, 2017, 02:27:11 AM
Even in 2007 Ronnie destroys Jay from behind standing relaxed. LOL

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/S0JmrSn--OI/AAAAAAAAEu8/noReuFOvmMU/s400/Jay+Cutler,+Will+Harris,+Ronnie+Coleman+at+the+2007+Mr.+Olympia+Prejudging++..jpg)
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: d0nny2600 on May 15, 2017, 02:28:57 AM
Ronnie should have won in 06 and had his 9th Olympia and retired.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Ted SuperSet on December 16, 2018, 07:47:22 AM
Nether Animal, serious questions:

If you can go on a date with any bodybuilder, who would you choose?
;D ;D
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on December 16, 2018, 02:31:25 PM
neither animal - come back please

this board needs more bbing
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Hulkotron on December 16, 2018, 03:12:02 PM
Ron should have won in 2006.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Royalty on December 16, 2018, 11:49:09 PM
neither animal - come back please

this board needs more bbing

You are one of Nether Animals gimmicks, it well know who you are. You post the same crap over and over again. You have ruined this board.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Royalty on December 16, 2018, 11:50:06 PM
Ron should have won in 2006.

You should’ve gotten a life in 2006
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: SGT BARNES on December 17, 2018, 06:41:17 PM
ron was made from balloons that started popping.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: illuminati on December 17, 2018, 10:58:00 PM
Ron should have won in 2006.

No he shouldn’t of
And he didn’t.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Bevo on December 18, 2018, 02:53:58 AM
And Ronnie is back at the gym after his 25th surgery as we speak
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 18, 2018, 03:23:44 AM
And Ronnie is back at the gym after his 25th surgery as we speak
I'm sure it will be a different result this time. ::)
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: The Scott on December 18, 2018, 09:17:50 AM
I'm sure it will be a different result this time. ::)
Hopefully he'll break his ego along with more screws and shut the fuck up.  Coleman is such a buttwipe. ;D
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 18, 2018, 09:23:35 AM
It’s just like anyone that gets old, you fall off real quick. Just look at Peyton Manning, Brett Favre and to a lesser extent Tom Brady. When you hit the wall the drop off is quick.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: old-school-lifter on December 18, 2018, 02:22:59 PM
I think after the 06 loss Ronnie knew that was it so didn't put much effort in for 07

but age, injury and receptor saturation had also caught up with him in 07

still look at his Right arm in 07- still kills Jays arms!
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Titus Pullo on December 18, 2018, 03:13:28 PM
No he shouldn’t of
And he didn’t.

I respectfully disagree.  Ronnie had the goods to win in 06.  He was definitely NOT as good as he was in, say, 2003 -- still, he had to win a majority of the mandatories by a hair.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: illuminati on December 18, 2018, 03:21:37 PM
I respectfully disagree.  Ronnie had the goods to win in 06.  He was definitely NOT as good as he was in, say, 2003 -- still, he had to win a majority of the mandatories by a hair.

It’s your right to disagree
Personally being there I though he’d do well to get 4th place.

Mind I thought the same this year with Phil he should of placed 4th.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 19, 2018, 11:01:32 AM
;D ;D

Why would you bump this thread?

Bumping a thread that over 1 year and a half old seems like a foolish thing to do.

"1"
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Ted SuperSet on December 19, 2018, 11:23:36 AM
Why would you bump this thread?

Bumping a thread that over 1 year and a half old seems like a foolish thing to do.

"1"

Because I was reading up on the 2007 olympia and stumbled up on this thread.
But what is the problem? You want to run off the last remaining visitors to this board?
Why dont you ban me for it? You must be fun at parties bro!
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 19, 2018, 11:27:06 AM
Because I was reading up on the 2007 olympia and stumbled up on this thread.
But what is the problem? You want to run off the last remaining visitors to this board?
Why dont you ban me for it? You must be fun at parties bro!

Done!

"1"
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: MAXX on December 19, 2018, 11:30:17 AM
that's when his injuries started flaring up more and more. Quad, lat, tricep etc.

his body just seemed to start breaking down, tears everywhere.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 19, 2018, 11:51:51 AM
Done!

"1"
He asked and he received. :)
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 19, 2018, 12:12:55 PM
He asked and he received. :)

He'll be alright.  ;)

"1"
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Titus Pullo on December 19, 2018, 01:43:24 PM
It’s your right to disagree
Personally being there I though he’d do well to get 4th place.

Mind I thought the same this year with Phil he should of placed 4th.

I defer to your judgment; I wasn't there, after all :). I just remember thinking Ron took the front biceps and lat poses, the side chest, rear biceps and most muscular, and Jay, abs, maybe lat spread and easily side tri.

Again, I am talking 2006...2007 is definitely a different clam :)  I thought Martinez easily took that, probably with Dexter second instead of the Fridge.

Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: illuminati on December 19, 2018, 02:06:12 PM
Why would you bump this thread?

Bumping a thread that over 1 year and a half old seems like a foolish thing to do.

"1"

Plenty of old threads have recently sprung back to life.
It’s not just him doing it.
Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: SF1900 on December 20, 2018, 03:23:36 AM
No he shouldn’t of
And he didn’t.

Shouldn’t have.

Title: Re: Ronnie 2007 - what happened?
Post by: Disco187 on December 20, 2018, 09:21:55 AM
In my opinion Ronnie’s downfall was his mis alignments of his vertebral discs, I don’t think his nerve signals, synapse and connection was there anymore . Obviously shown in his last then triceps mostly.  He held it down pretty well for as many injuries there was