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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: GMCtrk on April 07, 2006, 08:33:28 PM
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fact of the matter is, when it came time to pose, he controlled his waist. Hulkster likes to post these stupid pictures after the show has already been won by Yates, his gut could be sticking out a mile by then, fact of matter is he already won the show ;)
No bodybuilder over 260lbs has ever had an ab/thigh as good as this.
(http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/2003/DorianYates2.jpg)
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ronnies guts flexing looks bigger than dorians gut relaxed
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Compare that to this, and it is clear to see that Dorian would wipe the mat with Coleman (as he did when they compete against one another)
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0YQCFAp4dhsHOuQABAQFs5YexCRewC0upV9Na30RHQ0kGtmcvWe2T4WDvMFci0T5!Cb08a!3w2VdDtosIdQ9IV2GNnORIrsBHju*iYtOcC49StaC!SWq!!nCfOJOmSlwoIcPcvM31cttrobxg6lOseQ/Ronnie%20coleman%208.jpg?dc=4675308169429059839)
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Hahahaa. Dorian's ab/thigh pose is even better than Dexter Jackson.
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forgot to mention:
Dorian has no v-taper, huge waist too
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Yates, hands down, lights out
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Ronnie Coleman always looks flat from the front for some reason. Dorian's chest actually jumps out.
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This is funny, you take Dorian's best frontal pose and compare it to Ronnie's worst frontal pose....hmmmmm...surpris e. Let us see, Ronnie kills Dorian in the most muscular, front double bi, back double bi, side chest (he actually has hams), rear lat spread and just about every other pose. He outweighs Dorian by 25 pounds and has bigger legs. Yeah, Dorian has the calve's but is missing an entire arm.... ::). You guys are funny.... ;D. Dorian this and Dorian that. I bet if you met Dorian in person he would be as repulsed by your ass-kissing as any self-respecting person would be. You guys need to seriously consider psychiatric help....you obsess about the same shit over and over again...pathetic.
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This is funny, you take Dorian's best frontal pose and compare it to Ronnie's worst frontal pose....hmmmmm...surpris e. Let us see, Ronnie kills Dorian in the most muscular, front double bi, back double bi, side chest (he actually has hams), rear lat spread and just about every other pose. He outweighs Dorian by 25 pounds and has bigger legs. Yeah, Dorian has the calve's but is missing an entire arm.... ::). You guys are funny.... ;D. Dorian this and Dorian that. I bet if you met Dorian in person he would be as repulsed by your ass-kissing as any self-respecting person would be. You guys need to seriously consider psychiatric help....you obsess about the same shit over and over again...pathetic.
meltdown....
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Take any ab/thigh of Ronnie you would like, even his amazing '96 version (in which Yates still slaughtered him), and Dorian wins, every time.
Notice the proportion throughout Dorian's physique. Top to bottom.
Yates went up against the best lineup in Olympia history in 1993 and shook the world.
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This is funny, you take Dorian's best frontal pose and compare it to Ronnie's worst frontal pose....hmmmmm...surpris e. Let us see, Ronnie kills Dorian in the most muscular, front double bi, back double bi, side chest (he actually has hams), rear lat spread and just about every other pose. He outweighs Dorian by 25 pounds and has bigger legs. Yeah, Dorian has the calve's but is missing an entire arm.... ::). You guys are funny.... ;D. Dorian this and Dorian that. I bet if you met Dorian in person he would be as repulsed by your ass-kissing as any self-respecting person would be. You guys need to seriously consider psychiatric help....you obsess about the same shit over and over again...pathetic.
If what I am posting is so "pathetic" and obsessive, why do you even bother replying to it? ;)
A "meltdown" indeed :o
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Nassar had a better ab/thigh, sorry. Ronnie in 1999 and 2003 had a better ab/thigh. Nice try ;)
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Nassar had a better ab/thigh, sorry. Ronnie in 1999 and 2003 had a better ab/thigh. Nice try ;)
example?
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LOL
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/1999BritishGrandPrix_0047.jpg)
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Meltdown...hahahahahaha. ...seriously, I find it funny how there have been like five threads in the last week by GMC alone about Dorian. What the hell...it is like Hulkster with Ronnie. Guys, get over it...it is a bodybuilding...not real life. Dorian and Ronnie could give a rats ass about who is better; both are getting paid and paid well. I just find it boring about the same argument over and over again. It is Intel vs AMD. It is Linus vs Windows. It is the Beatles vs Elvis. After the thousand post, it is old. You guys can go on defending Dorian or Ronnie or Arnold or whoever. It is just sad that you choose to continually berate the same issue thread after thread. If this a meltdown, so be it. It is just tiresome. Can't the board ever be about something original or pertinent? Guess not ;); here come the ND vs Hulkster vs GMC vs LuciousFox threads all over again. I can just feel it. ;D
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(http://www.ifbb.com/olympia/03olympia/photo16.jpg)
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example?
Nassar El Sonbaty. Ronnie is not done with the pose in that picture. Try again.
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BTW, Ronnie's thighs and arms just kill Dorian's....GMC, anyone....waiting.
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Ronnie's ab and thigh at 287 beats Dorian's ab and thigh at 260:
(http://www.geocities.com/ronniecolemantr/image/Ronnie_Coleman_35.jpg)
check out the quads.
Notice: dorian is not extending his quad to flex it.
why? because his quads SUCK!
dorian NEVER did the pose properly because he knew his quads were horrid if he extended and flexed properly, like this:
(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/974182876.jpg)
and besides, it is only ONE POSE.
Can you imagine all the Yates fans that would shit their pants if their hero had to stand next to THIS onstage?:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50084.0;id=51597;image)
I'd pay a lot of money to see that first front double bi..never mind all the other poses like the side chest, back double bi, most muscular, rear lat spread (ie Ronnie wins almost every pose against Dorian).
and, as far as any ab and thigh I'd like, GMC, well, Yates looses to this:
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Coleman12.jpg)
don't start a war that you can't win.
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Yate's barely has a left bicep. PATHETIC. This is fun. Keep on typing GMC.
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Nassar El Sonbaty. Ronnie is not done with the pose in that picture. Try again.
Post an example of Nasser's superior ab/thigh.
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Meltdown...hahahahahaha....seriously, I find it funny how there have been like five threads in the last week by GMC alone about Dorian. What the hell...it is like Hulkster with Ronnie. Guys, get over it...it is a bodybuilding...not real life. Dorian and Ronnie could give a rats ass about who is better; both are getting paid and paid well. I just find it boring about the same argument over and over again. It is Intel vs AMD. It is Linus vs Windows. It is the Beatles vs Elvis. After the thousand post, it is old. You guys can go on defending Dorian or Ronnie or Arnold or whoever. It is just sad that you choose to continually berate the same issue thread after thread. If this a meltdown, so be it. It is just tiresome. Can't the board ever be about something original or pertinent? Guess not ;); here come the ND vs Hulkster vs GMC vs LuciousFox threads all over again. I can just feel it. ;D
I know what you mean; it gets old after a while. Such is this site, I guess. :)
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Dorian is still killing Ronnie Hulkster.
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Hulkster,
I've already won, your post just solidified that. Coleman looks like a sack of shit in the ab/thigh.
(http://www.ifbb.com/olympia/03olympia/photo40.jpg)
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fact of the matter is, when it came time to pose, he controlled his waist. Hulkster likes to post these stupid pictures after the show has already been won by Yates, his gut could be sticking out a mile by then, fact of matter is he already won the show ;)
No bodybuilder over 260lbs has ever had an ab/thigh as good as this.
(http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/2003/DorianYates2.jpg)
This is an awesome hit here but there has got to be better shots you can pull up of Ronnie for comparison.
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Nice pics Hulkster....I can feel ND any second now. Wait....it is coming....it is inevitable....hahahahah.
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It is Linus vs Windows.
Wasn't Linus a character in "Peanuts"? and what's he got to do with Windows? :)
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Hulkster,
I've already won, your post just solidified that. Coleman looks like a sack of shit in the ab/thigh.
(http://www.ifbb.com/olympia/03olympia/photo40.jpg)
Could you imagine, simply replace Dexter in this shot with Yates, but add 30lbs of muscle and calves the size of watermelons, and Ronnie would be blown off the stage :o 8)
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Hulkster just proved how superior Dorian's ab/thigh is. I count a 7 pack on Dorian and an odd-5-pack on Coleman. Dorian is also more detailed. Coleman's stomach sticks out farther than his chest in every shot.
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Post some of Jay....ND....you are the man with the pics. He schools Dorian in the ab/thigh. At least he has some decent arms. His legs are also shredded. GMC, give it up...you hero has been beaten soundly by the later day Coleman. Haney spanked his ass pretty well, too. Arnold would have crushed him......no contest. Sergio...well that is not even a fair fight. Sergio had more genetic talent in his left nut than Dorian had in his whole body.
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Can you imagine all the Yates fans that would shit their pants if their hero had to stand next to THIS onstage?:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50084.0;id=51597;image)
interesting angle on ronnie's and jay's calves . . . both look about the same size, but look at where the mass is concentrated.
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Could you imagine, simply replace Dexter in this shot with Yates, but add 30lbs of muscle and calves the size of watermelons, and Ronnie would be blown off the stage :o 8)
Can you imagine doing the same to Ronnie, as well as making his waist smaller?
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ironic that GMC picks a shot of an ab and thigh from the 99 British grand prix where Ronnie is NOT flexing his QUADS.
If he had, this is what you would have seen:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/52.jpg)
LOL can you imagine Dorian's watery blobs compared to these razor sharp quads??
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_2__0033.jpg)
show me any Yates pic that is anywhere NEAR this calibre of muscle.
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interesting angle on ronnie's and jay's calves . . . both look about the same size, but look at where the mass is concentrated.
Cutler is killing Coleman in that front double bicep. He's actually pulling a slight vacuum.
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Dingleberry, Linux man...hell it is late. Gonna go to bed soon. This is fun, though. I love it as I can tell that GMC gets steamed when anyone rips on his boy Dorian......Brokeback GMC and Dorian..... :o
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give it up boy.
you already posted Ronnie's best Ab/Thigh shot back in '96 at a paltry 240lbs and Dorian still smoked him.
Game over.
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Dingleberry, Linux man...hell it is late. Gonna go to bed soon. This is fun, though. I love it as I can tell that GMC gets steamed when anyone rips on his boy Dorian......Brokeback GMC and Dorian..... :o
me steamed? LOL...im sitting here on the clock getting paid having a good ole time discussing bodybuilding.
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Dingleberry, Linux man...hell it is late. Gonna go to bed soon. This is fun, though. I love it as I can tell that GMC gets steamed when anyone rips on his boy Dorian......Brokeback GMC and Dorian..... :o
I know bro, just messing with you. It just cracked me up when I read it.
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Oliver...I agree, Cutler is awesome and would have crushed Yates from the front. Obviously, Dorian would have hurt the young chap from the back, but time will tell if Cutler ever gets to that level. However, Yates is not really impressive at all from the front. His ab/thighs look like a set of good abs, decent chest and shitty thighs and arms. Not classic by any means. Post some of Haney and you will see what an upper body is supposed to look like.
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time to go clock out bros...good little thread we had going her.
But, someone should send word to Ron to delete it, becuase Dorian has already handed Ronnie his ass for what, the 100th time?
-peace out 8)
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Hulkster just proved how superior Dorian's ab/thigh is. I count a 7 pack on Dorian and an odd-5-pack on Coleman. Dorian is also more detailed. Coleman's stomach sticks out farther than his chest in every shot.
you neglected to comment on Dorian's quads. It is the ab and THIGH pose. Dorian doesn't even flex his quads in the normal manner - if he did, you would all realize how shitty his quads are when viewed from the front:
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy42.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy128.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy118.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy126.jpg)
shitty shitty shitty. Most national competitors have better looking quads.
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Really? Dorian's front lat spread is unsurpassed.
But this is about ab/thigh.
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give it up boy.
you already posted Ronnie's best Ab/Thigh shot back in '96 at a paltry 240lbs and Dorian still smoked him.
Game over.
No, Ronnie's ab and thigh is better. Game over for you.
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No, Ronnie's ab and thigh is better. Game over for you.
How can his ab thigh be better if he has two less visible abdominal muscles?
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GMC, that is cool man...just bustin your chops with the brokeback thing ;D. Maybe you don't get as serious as Hulkster and ND. They are the CEO's of BB face-off's. Funny shit I tell you. At least you and I agree to disagree. Neither is right or wrong, differing opinions. Personally, I feel Arnold or Haney in their prime were the best ever, but so be it. I like Dorian, just don't think his shape was anything special. As a person, he appears funny as hell. I bet he would be a good dude to get a beer with. There was one training video posted sometime ago when he was in Brazil and hangin with some of his Brazilian buddies. I bet they had a wild night at the Carnival.
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you neglected to comment on Dorian's quads. It is the ab and THIGH pose. Dorian doesn't even flex his quads in the normal manner - if he did, you would all realize how shitty his quads are when viewed from the front:
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy42.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy128.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy118.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy126.jpg)
shitty shitty shitty. Most national competitors have better looking quads.
Ronnie would like you to put the crack pipe down . . . you make some good points, but then you pull this.
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How can his ab thigh be better if he has two less visible abdominal muscles?
There are more muscles visible than abdominals, fella.
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Really? Dorian's front lat spread is unsurpassed.
umm..can you not see his shitty quads in the lat spread?
Yates Lat spread was ONLY good from the Waist UP.
this is a COMPLETE lat spread:
(http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmuscle.cx/olympia/coleman2.jpg)
Ronnie has something that dorian has never heard of:
Thigh Sweep
and
Thigh cuts.
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Oliver, the abs are genetic, that is not Ronnie's fault. Jay has better abs than Dorian and a set of wheels. Thus, he crushes Yates also.
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How can his ab thigh be better if he has two less visible abdominal muscles?
because Ronnie has these huge muscle groups called QUADS that destroy Dorians.
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Oliver, the abs are genetic, that is not Ronnie's fault. Jay has better abs than Dorian and a set of wheels. Thus, he crushes Yates also.
So are you saying genetic differences don't factor in bodybuilding contest?
"Let midgets compete against Coleman - it's genetic."
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because Ronnie has these huge muscle groups called QUADS that destroy Dorians.
And Dorian has calves............... ;D
Two less abs is as much a detriment to the pose as a missing bicep is to the rear double ;)
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So Oliver, the fact that Ronnie has genetically superior arms, thighs, chest thickness, hams, glutes and shoulders mean nothing.....did not think so. If all you are talking about are abs, check out Yates condition in some of the Mr. Olympia's. Not pretty. Best shape ever was 1991 and 1993. He was big in 1995, but his arms were totally screwed.
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I agree, Dorian had the best calves of all time.....no....I am wrong....Matarazzo had the best calves of all time.... ;D
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Yates has a better midsection when Flexed than Ronnie does. That is obvious.
But it is also obvious that Yates quads are so pathetic that he is AFRAID to flex them properly!!
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umm..can you not see his shitty quads in the lat spread?
Yates Lat spread was ONLY good from the Waist UP.
this is a COMPLETE lat spread:
(http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmuscle.cx/olympia/coleman2.jpg)
Ronnie has something that dorian has never heard of:
Thigh Sweep
(http://athlete.ru/fotos/profi/dorian/dorian_yates_159.jpg)
and
Thigh cuts.
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Look how pathetic Dorian's arms are in that picture. I'm embarrassed for him.
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So Oliver, the fact that Ronnie has genetically superior arms, thighs, chest thickness, hams, glutes and shoulders mean nothing.....did not think so. If all you are talking about are abs, check out Yates condition in some of the Mr. Olympia's. Not pretty. Best shape ever was 1991 and 1993. He was big in 1995, but his arms were totally screwed.
Actually, at his best, Dorian has a bigger chest and larger shoulders. You are wrong.
(http://www.fitflex.com/d1.jpg)
Ronnie has a flat chest. His whole torso is flat because his stomach sticks out farther than his chest in every pose.
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Actually, at his best, Dorian has a bigger chest and larger shoulders. You are wrong.
(http://www.fitflex.com/d1.jpg)
Ronnie has a flat chest. His whole torso is flat because his stomach sticks out farther than his chest in every pose.
Hahahhaha...Ronnie's chest and shoulders are more separated and larger.
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i love how this thread started by talking about how great dorian was over 260 and starts off with a picture of him earlier when he was considerably lighter.
ronnies abs look like a pot of uncooked ravioli and dorians legs look like they got run over by a tractor. at the end of the day, a bulgy stomach is better than a shitty entire lower body.
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i love how this thread started by talking about how great dorian was over 260 and starts off with a picture of him earlier when he was considerably lighter.
ronnies abs look like a pot of uncooked ravioli and dorians legs look like they got run over by a tractor. at the end of the day, a bulgy stomach is better than a shitty entire lower body.
Great post ;D
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Dorian's calves overpower his quads and arms. How pathetic.
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i love how this thread started by talking about how great dorian was over 260 and starts off with a picture of him earlier when he was considerably lighter.
ronnies abs look like a pot of uncooked ravioli and dorians legs look like they got run over by a tractor. at the end of the day, a bulgy stomach is better than a shitty entire lower body.
You prolly say that because you're a black guy.
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(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2740&stc=1)
:o
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I won't even get into the argument about who's better, but I will say although Ronnie comes in bigger every year, he's beginning to look deformed. Not knocking the guy, he's a beast, I just think he's starting to look a little misshapen.
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calves that overpower the entire body:
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy16.jpg)
amazing arms! not.
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calves that overpower the entire body:
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy16.jpg)
amazing arms! not.
What an ugly physique. Jesus Christ, he looks like shit warmed over.
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Nassar had a better ab/thigh, sorry. Ronnie in 1999 and 2003 had a better ab/thigh. Nice try ;)
Ronnie in 2003???are you smoking crack?
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whats really amazing is that people that don't pay attention actually think that Dorian had a proportioned physique.
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy204.jpg)
when upon closer inspection, we soon see that he had calves that were too big for his quads AND arms. Doesn't speak to highly of his arms and quads now does it?
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Ronnie in 2003???are you smoking crack?
No, you are.
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No, you are.
Ronnie's midsection in 2003 was arguably at its worse in his career. I'm not going to say Ronnie at his best wasn't better than Dorian at his best, because Ronnie is, but it's almost like you pulled the years 1999 and 2003 out of your ass.
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Ronnie's midsection in 2003 was arguably at its worse in his career.
In my opinion, he was so big that his midsection didn't look big at all.
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Ronnie's midsection in 2003 was arguably at its worse in his career.
but the rest of him was unreal!:
(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/6xo28.jpg)
I'd love to see the look on Yates' face when Ronnie flexed these arms as Dorian was about to flex his. It would be beautiful.
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Ronnies 8 time mr olympia. dorians ummm.... six.....
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Hulkster,
I've already won, your post just solidified that. Coleman looks like a sack of shit in the ab/thigh.
(http://www.ifbb.com/olympia/03olympia/photo40.jpg)
It's usually not a good sign when you can see someone's glutes in an ab-thigh shot. :-X
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It's usually not a good sign when you can see someone's glutes in an ab-thigh shot. :-X
Ronnie has beautiful glutes. We should be thanking God that we can see them from all angles.
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fact of the matter is, when it came time to pose, he controlled his waist. Hulkster likes to post these stupid pictures after the show has already been won by Yates, his gut could be sticking out a mile by then, fact of matter is he already won the show ;)
No bodybuilder over 260lbs has ever had an ab/thigh as good as this.
(http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/2003/DorianYates2.jpg)
Definitely! Of all bodybuilders who ever stepped onstage at more than 270 lbs, Dorian was the only one who still maintained a balanced physique and a tight waist. Compare him to Ronnie in 2003 or 2004, when he seemed to be carrying an alien queen in his belly... :o ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Definitely! Of all bodybuilders who ever stepped onstage at more than 270 lbs, Dorian was the only one who still maintained a balanced physique and a tight waist. Compare him to Ronnie in 2003 or 2004, when he seemed to be carrying an alien queen in his belly... :o ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Nassar was bigger and had a tighter waist.
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You also have to take into consideration how dorian would look now if he was still competing and growing like ronnie is now.I think it would be a tough fight as both of them would probably be around the same weight/size.Dorian takes ronnie in some poses and ronnie takes yates in others.
I certainly wouldnt like to judge that show.lol. :o
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Did you guys ever notice that dorian and ronnies guts,are HUGE !!! :'( :-* Therefore, it doesnt matter.
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Did you guys ever notice that dorian and ronnies guts,are HUGE !!! :'( :-* Therefore, it doesnt matter.
Good point. We've just about given up on a bodybuilder having a tight waist and having size.
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Nassar was bigger and had a tighter waist.
Nasser KILLED dorian from the front:
(http://www.kulturistika.com/gallery/1111418676_741.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Coleman08.jpg)
Yates can't compete with Nasser or Ronnie from the front.
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You also have to take into consideration how dorian would look now if he was still competing and growing like ronnie is now.I think it would be a tough fight as both of them would probably be around the same weight/size.Dorian takes ronnie in some poses and ronnie takes yates in others.
I certainly wouldnt like to judge that show.lol. :o
but dorian would always have that torn bi..
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but dorian would always have that torn bi..
Not to mention the torn tri he suffered in 97.
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(http://www.kulturistika.com/gallery/1111418676_741.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Coleman08.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy26.jpg)
totally outclassed. Sorry dorian fans. :-\
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Not to mention the torn tri he suffered in 97.
what about the tri that ronnie tore in 06?
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what about the tri that ronnie tore in 06?
wouldn't matter since his arms would still destroy dorian's.
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what about the tri that ronnie tore in 06?
what about the tri that 240 tore in 06? When did this happen?
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Well, just home from work, I see this thread has matured just as I had expected...
You compare Nasser to Yates. You compare an oil jug to a granite statue? :-\
You post Ronnie 2001AC picture, @ 245lbs, game over against Yates granite 260lbs.
You have yet to post an ab/thigh of Ronnie at 260 or higher that even comes close to rivaling that I posted on the first page.
The thing that most baffles me is your consistent belief that Yates has amateur level quads? Are you high? I would hate to hear your thoughts on Lee Haney's quads. From the commentator on the 91 Olympia "He [Yates] is like Haney with legs"
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Amateur level quads :D....oh yea, also notice, Dorian's left forearm is the same size as Shawn's bicep :o
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/diablo86/93%20olympia/19933.jpg)
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Well, just home from work, I see this thread has matured just as I had expected...
haha, I bet you were thinking about shit to post the whole time driving home, werent you?
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haha, I bet you were thinking about shit to post the whole time driving home, werent you?
actually, no. I was thinking about the Edy's ice cream I had in the freezer :-*
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Amateur level quads :D....oh yea, also notice, Dorian's left forearm is the same size as Shawn's bicep :o
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/diablo86/93%20olympia/19933.jpg)
you got it - amateur level quads - notice how in Shawn and Flex's quads you can see all three muscle groups.
In dorian's you cannot.
And you never could.
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Dorian dwarfing the competition. And many would argue, the competition was better back then.
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You have yet to post an ab/thigh of Ronnie at 260 or higher that even comes close to rivaling that I posted on the first page.
and you have yet to post a :
-relaxed shot showing front body taper
-double biceps pose
-side chest shot
-back double biceps shot
-rear lat spread
-most muscular
that come close to any of Ronnie's at his best.
Bodybuilding is not judged solely on the ab and thigh.
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Amateur level quads :D....oh yea, also notice, Dorian's left forearm is the same size as Shawn's bicep :o
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/diablo86/93%20olympia/19933.jpg)
Dorian's body is so ugly it makes me cry.
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you got it - amateur level quads - notice how in Shawn and Flex's quads you can see all three muscle groups.
In dorian's you cannot.
And you never could.
Well, first off, for your information, it's called the QUADricep, as in 4 ::)
And you can clearly see each muscle group in dorian's quads. Can you not see he has a different genetic shape to the quad? Dorian's legs in this shot are far more complete than either displayed by Wheeler or Ray
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He's not fully flexing.
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Can you not see he has a different genetic shape to the quad?
yes, its called UGLY.
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Well, first off, for your information, it's called the QUADricep, as in 4 ::)
And you can clearly see each muscle group in dorian's quads. Can you not see he has a different genetic shape to the quad? Dorian's legs in this shot are far more complete than either displayed by Wheeler or Ray
No, you're crazy, you're nuts, Dorian's quads are asymmetrical and ugly.
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and you have yet to post a :
-relaxed shot showing front body taper
-double biceps pose
-side chest shot
-back double biceps shot
-rear lat spread
-most muscular
that come close to any of Ronnie's at his best.
Bodybuilding is not judged solely on the ab and thigh.
Take any picture of Yates from 1993 against any version of Coleman, and yates wins hands down.
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He's not fully flexing.
he almost never flexed his quads.
Gee I wonder why? ::)
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Take any picture of Yates from 1993 against any version of Coleman, and yates wins hands down.
You must have lost it. 2003 Ronnie dwarfs that limey tart!
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Take any picture of Yates from 1993 against any version of Coleman, and yates wins hands down.
Here you go:
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_2__0033.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0070.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy183.jpg)
care to take back that last challenge?
You lost it pitifully.
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FACT - you can't post a picture of Coleman @260 anywhere near quality of yates on first picture
Therefore, remove yourself (and your homosexual tendencies) from this thread. Thanks 8)
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Here you go:
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_2__0033.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0070.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy183.jpg)
care to take back that last challenge?
You lost it pitifully.
why would I take it back? Yates 1993 is bigger and better conditioned than Coleman at the 99GP (his all-time best). If you posted a picture of Ronnie from the same low angle, he would look like horrible becuase you would clearly see has lack of balance with no calves.
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If you are speaking specifically about the ab and thigh, then maybe.
But as far as ANY other pose goes, ronnie at 287 in 2003 would smoke Yates.
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lack of balance with no calves is better than out of balance calves that overpower your arms and legs.
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why would I take it back? Yates 1993 is bigger and better conditioned than Coleman at the 99GP (his all-time best). If you posted a picture of Ronnie from the same low angle, he would look like horrible becuase you would clearly see has lack of balance with no calves.
Ronnie looks a lot better and bigger there, regardless of weight. Yates is, was and always will be , nada.
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lack of balance with no calves is better than out of balance calves that overpower your arms and legs.
note that having comparatively weak arms and legs (dorian) is having flaws in MAJOR muscle groups.
ronnie's only flaws are in MINOR muscle groups.
there is a difference.
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GMC the one thing that you are failing to notice is the extreme difference in muscle shape between Ronnie and dorian.
Look at how amazing Ronnie's arms and legs are shaped in comparison to Dorian's.
Dorian's arms and legs looks like ugly blobs.
Dorian never had the muscle shape to compete with Ronnie - as LF said, he can be "smaller" and still look WAY better.
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Why can't people see how ugly Yates' body was? Are they brainwashed?
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lack of balance with no calves is better than out of balance calves that overpower your arms and legs.
calves can never be too big....what would you say about arnold then? His calves were massive for his quads, yet no one says a word about that.
I stand by my contention that '93 Yates eclipses any version of Coleman. Anything past the 2001AC version of coleman compared to Yates is laughable due to the fact that Coleman's conditioning went down a few notches and he has more problems with water retention, especially in the back. Being "ugly" as you put it has nothing to do with who wins or loses. If that was the case, Flex would have won what 20 olympias. When you post 99GP pictures of coleman you must also take into account the lighting and background (of course which Yates helped set-up) which fully allowed the competitors to show off their physiques.
Also take into account the caliber of competition in 93 vs. Coleman's days, Yates @ 260lbs was holding his own in every abdominal shot and was in better condition than guys 60lbs lighter (Ray), and 40lbs lighter (Wheeler).
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what would you say about arnold then? His calves were massive for his quads, yet no one says a word about that.
I mention it all the time when ND gets off with his Arnold Orgasms.
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Being "ugly" as you put it has nothing to do with who wins or loses.
yes it does.
ronnie at 250 pounds has a far more pleasing physique than Dorian does at the same bodyweight (way better muscle shape, way better taper).
it has everything to do with who would win or loose.
Flex never won an olympia because he always showed up "soft" compared to his AC shapes. He was certainly "pretty" enough to do serious damage had he showed up in shape.
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calves can never be too big....what would you say about arnold then? His calves were massive for his quads, yet no one says a word about that.
I stand by my contention that '93 Yates eclipses any version of Coleman. Anything past the 2001AC version of coleman compared to Yates is laughable due to the fact that Coleman's conditioning went down a few notches and he has more problems with water retention, especially in the back. Being "ugly" as you put it has nothing to do with who wins or loses. If that was the case, Flex would have won what 20 olympias. When you post 99GP pictures of coleman you must also take into account the lighting and background (of course which Yates helped set-up) which fully allowed the competitors to show off their physiques.
Also take into account the caliber of competition in 93 vs. Coleman's days, Yates @ 260lbs was holding his own in every abdominal shot and was in better condition than guys 60lbs lighter (Ray), and 40lbs lighter (Wheeler).
We should probably just all agree to disagree. This arguing gets exhausting.
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why would I take it back? Yates 1993 is bigger and better conditioned than Coleman at the 99GP (his all-time best). If you posted a picture of Ronnie from the same low angle, he would look like horrible becuase you would clearly see has lack of balance with no calves.
Dorian wins hands down. You just betrayed your sugar-daddy, Hulkster. :-\
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Dorian wins hands down. You just betrayed your sugar-daddy, Hulkster. :-\
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Ronnie> Dorian.
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nasser puts both of them on show and he weighed like 270+
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nasser puts both of them on show and he weighed like 270+
This guy beats all of them
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one thing i agree with u hulkster that is dorians quads do suck.ronnie legs r just like sliced and diced tree trunks.......but dorian does have better triceps and better chest..u have 2 agree on that dude....
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Nasser looked good from the front - but turn him around and he looked bloody awful.
Coleman might have bigger this and bigger that - but did he look good???
His midsection is bizzare - it's missing something !!
Flex wheeler was by better than coleman everyday of the week and twice on sunday.
Dorian was the total package - you can post mid 80's pics of him and play 'top trumps' but he was the man!!
When Ronnie goes, he will not be revered in the way that Dorian was - NO WAY.
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Dorian is one of the worst BBers ever.
He completely ruined the BBing evolution, which was on top in 80's, and which is catastrophic nowadays.
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Both Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman are both amazing bodybuilders and true champions. Both owned the world for a combined 14+ years. During Dorian's reign, he brought new meaning to the concept of size and conditioning and ushered in the mass monster world order. Yet even for Dorian's sheer bulk, Ronnie eventually out-grew him and redefined pure size. Like Doz in 93, Big Ron brought an unbeatable package in 2003. This is the evolution of bodybuilding and sports in general; bigger and better.
That being said, Dorian's ab and thigh at its best still doesnt compare to Ronnie at his. By '96, Nasser el Sonbaty owned D in that pose. Watch the video and you'll see that Nasser's quads look 3 inches bigger and his abs are just as tight with intercostals from another planet. Nasser would have been the new evolution of Dorian if he had brought his back detail up. As it was tho, he got raped by everyone.
Bottom line, Ronnie's ab and thigh is better for its sheer size and cuts - D had better abdominals and calves, but even by '96 Nasser's pose was better
(http://hugenasserelsonbaty.com/pics/standingAbshot.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/rc120.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy179.jpg)
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Nassers lats are about to burst from a cerstain substaince that enlarges the muscles for a short period of time.
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Nassers lats are about to burst from a cerstain substaince that enlarges the muscles for a short period of time.
I think that the picture is just photoshopped.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-769035663648281708&q=ronnie+coleman&pl=true
"this yr i'm gonna be beeg and defined" he sounds what adam sandler sounded like in Water boy
i think rnnie gut in this video is photo shopped also... :-\
isn't the chest supoposed to stick out more than your stomach?
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and here is dorian..dorians facial expressions and poise does not make me wanna smack him in the facelike ronnie's do..i mean wtf..ronnie looks like he did NO preparation and just came out to pose..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4903976856273994156&q=dorian+yates&pl=true
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If you want to post a proper pic of Yates doing an ab-thigh let me do it , you pic 94 with a bloated stomach and a bad tan , check this from 95 simply amazing , Ronnie's ab-thigh was never this good , Nasser may have matched or even surpassed Yates in this pose , although Nasser had a thicker waist , the problem with Nasser was he looked great from the front , and thats it , he sucked from the side and the back
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If you want to post a proper pic of Yates doing an ab-thigh let me do it , you pic 94 with a bloated stomach and a bad tan , check this from 95 simply amazing , Ronnie's ab-thigh was never this good , Nasser may have matched or even surpassed Yates in this pose , although Nasser had a thicker waist , the problem with Nasser was he looked great from the front , and thats it , he sucked from the side and the back
Dorian looks great there, but Ronnie still has a better ab/thigh.
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but Yates quads suck from the front. Therefore, his ab and thigh was NEVER amazing.
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you can see dorian's gimp bicep in his ab and thigh pose ;D
no way in hell he should have one any more mr.o's after he tore it.
monster symmetry ::)
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you can see dorian's gimp bicep in his ab and thigh pose ;D
no way in hell he should have one any more mr.o's after he tore it.
monster symmetry ::)
He had an ugly body, that's for sure.
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(http://www.ifbb.com/olympia/03olympia/photo16.jpg)
that is horrible
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that is horrible
NO...it's the "new standard" :-\
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fact of the matter is, when it came time to pose, he controlled his waist. Hulkster likes to post these stupid pictures after the show has already been won by Yates, his gut could be sticking out a mile by then, fact of matter is he already won the show ;)
No bodybuilder over 260lbs has ever had an ab/thigh as good as this.
(http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/2003/DorianYates2.jpg)
agreed! great pic i never realised yates looked that good!
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He had an ugly body, that's for sure.
i think he looked good in 92,great in 93. then the bicep tear happened and he shouldn't have placed in the top 5.
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Dorian looks great there, but Ronnie still has a better ab/thigh.
I prefer Dorian's abs, but Ronnie simply can't help what his genetics dished out in terms of abs; still, I think Ronnie has the better thighs while Dorian crushes him on calves.....it's a hard one for me to determine.
MOS
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that is horrible
Ronnie dwarfs you ::)
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I prefer Dorian's abs, but Ronnie simply can't help what his genetics dished out in terms of abs; still, I think Ronnie has the better thighs while Dorian crushes him on calves.....it's a hard one for me to determine.
MOS
having shitty quads is more of a flaw than having shitty calves.
I think almost everyone except ND and GMC would agree on that one.
(http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/2003/DorianYates2.jpg)
notice how Dorian is doing an ab and calf pose.
The judges should have asked him over the mic to extend and flex his thigh.
Then we would see how good he looked...
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having shitty quads is more of a flaw than having shitty calves.
I think almost everyone except ND and GMC would agree on that one.
for most normal people, having good calves makes for a more aesthetic appearance than having great quads, but hulkster has already demonstrated that . . .
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ronnies ab/thigh is his worst pose. you might as well use dorians most muscular or his side chest.
there's a challenge, find a picture of dorian doing a side chest.
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Compare that to this, and it is clear to see that Dorian would wipe the mat with Coleman (as he did when they compete against one another)
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0YQCFAp4dhsHOuQABAQFs5YexCRewC0upV9Na30RHQ0kGtmcvWe2T4WDvMFci0T5!Cb08a!3w2VdDtosIdQ9IV2GNnORIrsBHju*iYtOcC49StaC!SWq!!nCfOJOmSlwoIcPcvM31cttrobxg6lOseQ/Ronnie%20coleman%208.jpg?dc=4675308169429059839)
hes not fully flexed you idiot.
ronniiie controls his gut when he hits a pose just like dorian.
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but the rest of him was unreal!:
(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/6xo28.jpg)
I'd love to see the look on Yates' face when Ronnie flexed these arms as Dorian was about to flex his. It would be beautiful.
Hulkster, you could have seen that look Mr O 92 - 97 , during which Yates destroyed your idol Coleman
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hes not fully flexed you idiot.
ronniiie controls his gut when he hits a pose just like dorian.
yes, just like this, right?
http://www.ifbb.com/olympia/03olympia/photo16.jpg
monster 45 inch waist :o
Yates crushes ronnie every time
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yes, just like this, right?
http://www.ifbb.com/olympia/03olympia/photo16.jpg
monster 45 inch waist :o
Yates crushes ronnie every time
Ronnie dwarfs you and Dorian ::)
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having shitty quads is more of a flaw than having shitty calves.
how convenient!! Coleman has shitty calves!!
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how convenient!! Coleman has shitty calves!!
Coleman's calves dwarf yours ::)
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yes, just like this, right?
http://www.ifbb.com/olympia/03olympia/photo16.jpg
monster 45 inch waist :o
Yates crushes ronnie every time
in response to my "hes not fuly flexed" you post another picture where he isnt fully flexed.
congrats.
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ronnies ab/thigh is his worst pose. you might as well use dorians most muscular or his side chest.
there's a challenge, find a picture of dorian doing a side chest.
Side chest , like Ronnie said before Yates has the best side chest & freakiest back he ever seen !!
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Side chest , like Ronnie said before Yates has the best side chest & freakiest back he ever seen !!
Small arms, good legs. Ronnie's is better.
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Side chest , like Ronnie said before Yates has the best side chest & freakiest back he ever seen !!
his back is freaky only in one element though. its freakishly thick...but has no real widt5h to go with it. and to me.....what makes or breaks a back is its width.
and his side chest isnt all that impressive next to guys like mustafa.
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you compare a 6time mr.o to a guy never won anything :-X
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you compare a 6time mr.o to a guy never won anything :-X
Mustafa's quads dwarf Dorian's ::)
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Side chest , like Ronnie said before Yates has the best side chest & freakiest back he ever seen !!
awful. you know, i know his triceps were not as good as dorian's, but unless you're a half retarded spider monkey you know that despite a pose's name it's always a whole body shot. with that in mind, ronnie stomps a mudhole in dorian here.
(http://i.b5z.net/i/u/230085/i/Ronnie_coleman_top_ezr.jpg)
his triceps aren't nearly as good as doz's, but his legs, arms as a whole, chest, and traps are bigger and better. and look, his belly's even flat.
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fact of the matter is, when it came time to pose, he controlled his waist. Hulkster likes to post these stupid pictures after the show has already been won by Yates, his gut could be sticking out a mile by then, fact of matter is he already won the show ;)
No bodybuilder over 260lbs has ever had an ab/thigh as good as this.
(http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/2003/DorianYates2.jpg)
Ummm..
WHo are you trying to convince? This is already known.
And your wrong- There are bodybuilders with a better ab thigh pose. DO you know about bodybuilding? I guess not. The judges also look at the quads..SO, Ronnie has YAtes beat there..and Id have to Say Jay Cutler would have better abs than Yates in that pose...
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..and Id have to Say Jay Cutler would have better abs than Yates in that pose...
LOL...MONSTER v-taper :o
(http://x12.putfile.com/11/32319481011.jpg)
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LOL...MONSTER v-taper :o
(http://x12.putfile.com/11/32319481011.jpg)
It could be better, admittedly, but look at those abs! :o
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Im sure by now you all know that dorian had a gut, But i bet you didnt know Flex Wheeler had his bodyfat measured at negative 3%, in 1993....crazy huh.
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It could be better, admittedly, but look at those abs! :o
the sad part is he had to use diuretics...something dorian never needed to resort too.
Could you imagine the punishment he would put to little coleman using diuretics? ;)
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the sad part is he had to use diuretics...something dorian never needed to resort too.
Could you imagine the punishment he would put to little coleman using diuretics? ;)
I will give this to Dorian, his conditioning was magnificent. He looked so hard :o
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Someone said that Dorians skin, was as dry as a cat tounge.....and thats w/out Duiretics?
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Someone said that Dorians skin, was as dry as a cat tounge.....and thats w/out Duiretics?
just listen to the man on bfto '96...he states that the newly imposed diuretic testing will only be another advantage for him...becuase surely Shawn Ray was using...we all know the saying, "once a cheater, always a cheater" ;)
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Coleman's calves dwarf yours ::)
yeah, but mine aren't full of synthol
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Someone said that Dorians skin, was as dry as a cat tounge.....and thats w/out Duiretics?
yep, and his muscles were built without steroids.
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yep, and his muscles were built without steroids.
coleman is natural too
"god given strength"
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yeah, but mine aren't full of synthol
Ronnie's calves do look strange, but whatever he did, he didn't go too far with it.
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I met Dorian at the olympia expo.....freak is made of granite ,and hes retired, so he probably is naturally dry. He was as big as me, and Im at 253lbs now....so that cat musta been crazy when competing.
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YEAHHH BUDDYYY :o 8)
(http://www.apstudio.km.ru/Dorian_Spina.jpg)
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YEAHHH BUDDYYY :o 8)
(http://www.apstudio.km.ru/Dorian_Spina.jpg)
Would you lick ice cream off that back? ;D
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Would you lick ice cream off that back? ;D
nope, but I bet Cutler would if Dorian let him borrow his back for the Olympia ;) :o
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nope, but I bet Cutler would if Dorian let him borrow his back for the Olympia ;) :o
That would be a sight to see. Unfortunately, his back would be far more conditioned than the rest of him.
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ICECREAM, ICECREAM......
Thats sick Fox...we have standards to uphold here...get it together, we do not want to be like the haters ( The Squid club or something )
One of the best pic's ever tho, Wheres the icecream??
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ICECREAM, ICECREAM......
Thats sick Fox...we have standards to uphold here...get it together, we do not want to be like the haters ( The Squid club or something )
One of the best pic's ever tho, Wheres the icecream??
Yes, I don't want to be a hater. I made sure to post the smiley face after. But maybe I should be more careful so people don't mistake me for a troll. :-\
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Yes, I don't want to be a hater. I made sure to post the smiley face after. But maybe I should be more careful so people don't mistake me for a troll. :-\
Ok, Protien drinks for everyone!!!! Lo-carb, whey for me as im cutting, and Musclemilk for the phatties. ;D ;D
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Ok, Protien drinks for everyone!!!! Lo-carb, whey for me as im cutting, and Musclemilk for the phatties. ;D ;D
Yippee, boy this is fun! I will have a Vanilla MuscleMilk, thank you. Ahhhh, almost as good as Vyotech.
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Would you lick ice cream off that back? ;D
Sorta reminds me of that old joke:
"How does a homo fake an orgasm? He throws a cup of hot yogurt on your back."
:o
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Sorta reminds me of that old joke:
"How does a homo fake an orgasm? He throws a cup of hot yogurt on your back."
:o
Now thats just gross :-X But really funny!! :D
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Sorta reminds me of that old joke:
"How does a homo fake an orgasm? He throws a cup of hot yogurt on your back."
:o
;D
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dorian ab/thigh 1991
(http://picsorban.com/upload/dorian5.jpg)
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chiseled out of granite 8)
(http://www.sfd.pl/1/images2002/20021126000015.jpg)
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dorian ab/thigh 1991
(http://picsorban.com/upload/dorian5.jpg)
Now that's an awesome ab and thing, I even prefer it to Ronnie's :-\
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Nice pix! Dorian shows freaky size which even Coleman couldn't beat him on those posts.
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20" forearm to go along with some 22" calves...beating the deepest and best field in olympia history
(http://www.emusclemag.com/gallery/main/yates_01.jpg)
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20" forearm to go along with some 22" calves...beating the deepest and best field in olympia history
(http://www.emusclemag.com/gallery/main/yates_01.jpg)
I love the calves. I have black man calves :-[
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I love the calves. I have black man calves :-[
lol its too early to tell! You just need to eat more ;)
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lol its too early to tell! You just need to eat more ;)
No, I mean I'm actually a black guy with high black man calves. I can jump high, though. ;D
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No, I mean I'm actually a black guy with high black man calves. I can jump high, though. ;D
lol you lucky bastard. I am 6'4" and can barely dunk the net. But there are some black guys that are 5'9" who can do it. :-[
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lol you lucky bastard. I am 6'4" and can barely dunk the net. But there are some black guys that are 5'9" who can do it. :-[
I guess it is a trade-off, I can jump, but have never tipped the scales at more than 175 pounds. >:(
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i hope that is a joke :(
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i hope that is a joke :(
Nope, I weigh 160 right now.
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Nope, I weigh 160 right now.
based on the amount of sarcasm you throw around, I'm gonna have to go with NO ;)
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Nope, I weigh 160 right now.
Lucius is not going for size! He is going for athleticism. He can jump over any man! :o
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monsterous
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy4.jpg)
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SHREDDED midsection 8)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy21.jpg)
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wow keep those coming GMCtrk 8)
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Yates @ 315lbs
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy18.jpg)
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Lucius is not going for size! He is going for athleticism. He can jump over any man! :o
Yeah baby, yeah!!
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Athletes are cool !!!! 8)
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Athletes are cool !!!! 8)
Yeah baby!
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smoooooth ;)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Coleman05.jpg)
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Ronnie looking a little "wide" here ;)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/rc24.jpg)
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Yates @ 315lbs
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy18.jpg)
Yates a big man, but 315 at that condition seems a stretch. He's just too tight to be 315.
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Yates a big man, but 315 at that condition seems a stretch. He's just too tight to be 315.
That's just how good he was. He is bigger in this guest posing than in Blood and Guts in which he was 305lbs. So it's completely feasible than he is 315 here as claimed
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His actual weight was 287lbs. But you know how, when were cutting, we weigh in the morning while were naked, on an empty stomach???
And when were bulking we weigh at night, right after we eat while holding a 45lb plate behind us??? Yeah its that kinda thing. ;D
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That's just how good he was. He is bigger in this guest posing than in Blood and Guts in which he was 305lbs. So it's completely feasible than he is 315 here as claimed
I have to agree with War-Horse, he just doesn't look that much bigger than contest shape. He probably put the weight where his balls would have been, as most pros are capable of doing.
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I have to agree with War-Horse, he just doesn't look that much bigger than contest shape. He probably put the weight where his balls would have been, as most pros are capable of doing.
Ive heard test suppression shrinks the nuggets, so yeah, He probably ran by the schoolyard and stole some steelie marbles from the kids........That bastard Dorian!!!
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Yates @ 315lbs
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy18.jpg)
I don't know if he 's 315 lbs in that pic , but we can safely assume he's somewhere in the 300 range , so for somebody who's that heavy to look that sharp...simply amazing... :o
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He was a punk as a youth, I guess we shouldn't be surprised.
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what people dont realize is that you gotta watch a yates video to comprehend why he won and why he's better than ronnie...
ronnie = water logged compared to yates..
yates looks like ya took 600 lbs of muscle and then somehow squeezed it into a 260lb body..
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what people dont realize is that you gotta watch a yates video to comprehend why he won and why he's better than ronnie...
ronnie = water logged compared to yates..
yates looks like ya took 600 lbs of muscle and then somehow squeezed it into a 260lb body..
I have seen the video...Ronnie dwarfs Yates ::)
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what people dont realize is that you gotta watch a yates video to comprehend why he won and why he's better than ronnie...
ronnie = water logged compared to yates..
yates looks like ya took 600 lbs of muscle and then somehow squeezed it into a 260lb body..
Perfectly said... ;)
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Perfectly said... ;)
But Ronnie's body is curvier and more voluptuous, so I guess it's a toss-up.
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I have seen the video...Ronnie dwarfs Yates ::)
T Avenger is right. That is a good analogy of the Dorian. 600lbs into 260lbs = Density.
Dorian is dense (in a good way) Ronnie is fluffy (in a bad way) LOL
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Just look at Kamali ...he could be 300 lbs and still look like a fuckin' potato bag...no offense.. ;)
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T Avenger is right. That is a good analogy of the Dorian. 600lbs into 260lbs = Density.
Dorian is dense (in a good way) Ronnie is fluffy (in a bad way) LOL
It all depends on what you place a higher priority on, density or shape.
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It all depends on what you place a higher priority on, density or shape.
If i had the choice.....Id pick ronnies physique...but its close.
But then again the kmhphotos of 93 were the freakiest ever of dorian.
Nah, Bob Paris for an everyday look.
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I would rather be dense and ripped like Dorian than look like Ronnie. I think it is just a matter of what you personally would like to emulate. Ronnie is no doubt one of the best, if not the best BBer, in terms of wins and development but I think if he cut back on size and got conditioning like Dorian's then he would be unstoppable. I think having started his Olympia reign so late may have hurt him in the long run. He is forty or so now and the body can only keep up for so long before it starts to lose something.
Yeah, I was shocked when I saw Dorian posing his back for the first time, it looked rock-hard, not like anything else I'd seen on stage.
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I have seen the video...Ronnie dwarfs Yates ::)
and dillett, kovacs and victor richards dwarft ronnie..
volume VS density...
volume aint shit in my book...
yano what volume is...
i weighed 150 lbs 5 days ago..
<ahem>
right now i'm 164... ;) ..its intracellular water stores being filled cause of the sustanon i'm on...
is that muscle..nope...
but according to you..i sure am more muscular.....right?? well gawd diggidy..i gained 14 lbs of muscle in 5 days! ;D
see my point..
PS..yeah..i actually am 164 ..thats a huge gain in 5 days...and its all water..
ronnie = water
must i learn the noobs everything >:(
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and dillett, kovacs and victor richards dwarft ronnie..
volume VS density...
volume aint shit in my book...
yano what volume is...
i weighed 150 lbs 5 days ago..
<ahem>
right now i'm 164... ;) ..its intracellular water stores being filled cause of the sustanon i'm on...
is that muscle..nope...
but according to you..i sure am more muscular.....right?? well gawd diggidy..i gained 14 lbs of muscle in 5 days! ;D
see my point..
PS..yeah..i actually am 164 ..thats a huge gain in 5 days...and its all water..
ronnie = water
must i learn the noobs everything >:(
Of course everyone has water in them, including Dorian. Just because Dorian was drier and has less interstitial water doesn't mean that Ronnie is bloated and without condition. Ronnie definitely brings striations and cuts to the table. WTF are you doing on Sust?
The only one of the guys on that list who actually dwarfed Ronnie was Kovacs. Ronnie not only dwarfs others, he also brings quality, proportion and cuts to the table. Bodybuilding muscularity is based on LOOKS ONLY, the judges do not get to perform any tests on the competitors. ::)
P.S. Ronnie dwarfs you ;D
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Of course everyone has water in them, including Dorian. Just because Dorian was drier and has less interstitial water doesn't mean that Ronnie is bloated and without condition. Ronnie definitely brings striations and cuts to the table. WTF are you doing on Sust?
The only one of the guys on that list who actually dwarfed Ronnie was Kovacs. Ronnie not only dwarfs others, he also brings quality, proportion and cuts to the table. Bodybuilding muscularity is based on LOOKS ONLY, the judges do not get to perform any tests on the competitors. ::)
P.S. Ronnie dwarfs you ;D
you need to buy and watch the 92 and 93 O vids..
then talk..
PS..yates actually had real calves..instead of synthol...yeah..i've been watching this sport juuust long enough to know synthol when i see it
Ps the flex vid i posted..flex had synthol in his shoulders..
and he'd been using synthol in his calves since the early 90s since shawn ws bitching about him having implants..
PPS... Dan duchaine and i used to e-mail eachother on a dly basis..sooo either Dan ws wrong...or flex just had the kinda calves that just refused to move when he <ahem> flexed..
n oh..most of the time we talked about recumbent bikes...which ws dans # 1 obsession
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you need to buy and watch the 92 and 93 O vids..
then talk..
PS..yates actually had real calves..instead of synthol...yeah..i've been watching this sport juuust long enough to know synthol when i see it
Ps the flex vid i posted..flex had synthol in his shoulders..
and he'd been using synthol in his calves since the early 90s since shawn ws bitching about him having implants..
PPS... Dan duchaine and i used to e-mail eachother on a dly basis..sooo either Dan ws wrong...or flex just had the kinda calves that just refused to move when he <ahem> flexed..
They didn't have synthol in the early 90's ::) Ronnie probably just site injects. His calves actually flex, they are just really high.
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Recumbant bikes are cool. Id ride one but people would stare. Im a bodybuilder, so i dont want attention.
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They didn't have synthol in the early 90's ::) Ronnie probably just site injects. His calves actually flex, they are just really high.
good lord noob..synthol is just MTC oil...john parillo has been peddling it since the mid 80s..for the ketogenic diet
who ya say is john parillo...yeesh man..noob ;D
just cause it ws made available to the public in the late 90's does not mean it ws not available back then ...
you saying " no synthol in the early 90s" is like saying there were no steroids during the grimek era ::)
BTW...Dan duchaine talked about plasma expanders bbbbaaack when folks were just learning to use insulin as an anabolic..what ya say are plasma expanders??
as i said...noob... :-\
and oh..what am i doing with sust..? well dearie..toxic used to once upon a time weigh 220 pretty damn close to competition shape...we'r gonna get back to that ;)
we'r gonna run the fucking alphabettie..aye darlin
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good lord noob..synthol is just MTC oil...john parillo has been peddling it since the mid 80s..for the ketogenic diet
who ya say is john parillo...yeesh man..noob ;D
just cause it ws made available to the public in the late 90's does not mean it ws not available back then ...
you saying " no synthol in the early 90s" is like saying there were no steroids during the grimek era ::)
BTW...Dan duchaine talked about plasma expanders bbbbaaack when folks were just learning to use insulin as an anabolic..what ya say are plasma expanders??
as i said...noob... :-\
and oh..what am i doing with sust..? well dearie..toxic used to once upon a time weigh 220 pretty damn close to competition shape...we'r gonna get back to that ;)
we'r gonna run the fucking alphabettie..aye darlin
Nope, synthol also includes benzocaine and something else, noob. ;D Flex's calves looked fine in the early 90's, in my opinion. Good luck with your cycle. Don't go overboard!
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Nope, synthol also includes benzocaine and something else, noob. ;D Flex's calves looked fine in the early 90's, in my opinion. Good luck with your cycle. Don't go overboard!
hon the benz is just for the numbing effect..so it dont hurt..
i know..a quick google does wonders..
;)
so ya agree that flex had synth in his calves..lol.?
anyhow...as far as overdoing goes..remember..roids are just the polish....they are like 6% (you said) of the total package?
..right?
DAMN i have great genes.. ;D
i'm like gonna go from 150 lbs to 220 in 6 friggin months! ;D
i love my tr..umm genes..
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hon the benz is just for the numbing effect..so it dont hurt..
i know..a quick google does wonders..
;)
so ya agree that flex had synth in his calves..lol.?
anyhow...as far as overdoing goes..remember..roids are just the polish....they are like 6% (you said) of the total package?
..right?
DAMN i have great genes.. ;D
i'm like gonna go from 150 lbs to 220 in 6 friggin months! ;D
i love my tr..umm genes..
Nice try, but I didn't google-search that. I have lurked on this board for many years. Steriods, on average, improve the physique by 5-10%. Any time someone has better gains, I just say that they have above average results. Hope your finishing touch goes well.
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Nice try, but I didn't google-search that. I have lurked on this board for many years. Steriods, on average, improve the physique by 5-10%. Any time someone has better gains, I just say that they have above average results. Hope your finishing touch goes well.
thats fine with me dude..really i weight 164ish right now..i weighed 150 5 days ago..and like before i shall weigh 220 in 6 months..
so you must think i have teh awesome genes eh?
i'll post pix along the way..i promise..you've seen my pix..next batch coming in a 1 1/2 months..i should be around 175 by then :)
i just hope you'll stand up for me in the thread i make and tell everyone what great genes i have...
please 8)
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thats fine with me dude..really i weight 164ish right now..i weighed 150 5 days ago..and like before i shall weigh 220 in 6 months..
so you must think i have teh awesome genes eh?
i'll post pix along the way..i promise..you've seen my pix..next batch coming in a 1 1/2 months..i should be around 175 by then :)
i just hope you'll stand up for me in the thread i make and tell everyone what great genes i have...
please 8)
Definitely. It won't be long before I can say "Toxic dwarfs you ::)" ;D
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Definitely. It won't be long before I can say "Toxic dwarfs you ::)" ;D
nooo i aint doing GH...i like my waist..and my self esteem is only soo low...
tren plus sus plus winnie plus A-bombs = 220 in a jiffy! :)
i mean you grow so fast that your skin actually tiches and gets pins and needles at night....cause it cant keep up :)
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nooo i aint doing GH...i like my waist..and my self esteem is only soo low...
tren plus sus plus winnie plus A-bombs = 220 in a jiffy! :)
i mean you grow so fast that your skin actually tiches and gets pins and needles at night....cause it cant keep up :)
Boy are you gonna hate me. Im typing this with a 20 1/2 arm...with veins. No steroids, no gh, no insulin.......just had a pizza too. ;D
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nooo i aint doing GH...i like my waist..and my self esteem is only soo low...
tren plus sus plus winnie plus A-bombs = 220 in a jiffy! :)
i mean you grow so fast that your skin actually tiches and gets pins and needles at night....cause it cant keep up :)
Who said anything about GH? It sounds like you have insane grizzly bear-like genetics to grow that fast! Must just be the muscle memory. It will be a monster transformation :o
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Boy are you gonna hate me. Im typing this with a 20 1/2 arm...with veins. No steroids, no gh, no insulin.......just had a pizza too. ;D
then you are black ..
and have bad hair and calves... ;D
/....and a bigger penis..but eh..i cant win em all... :-\
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then you are black ..
and have bad hair and calves... ;D
/....and a bigger penis..but eh..i cant win em all... :-\
;D
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It gets worse....Im white, with big calves......but the penis??? :'(
I have freinds that are black...huh Fox. 8)
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Who said anything about GH? It sounds like you have insane grizzly bear-like genetics to grow that fast! Must just be the muscle memory. It will be a monster transformation :o
no..i actually did work hard when i started training...
atarted at 119 lbs at 15..
grew to 180 by the time i ws 19...
at 19 i competed in a powerlifting show..
i took my weight down to 135...
pulled 405 (Maryland record )
squatted 315
bench..lets not go there
then i started juicing...and just blew up..honestly bro...
REALLy..i'd like to say genetics..but i cant..it ws the juice..i'd be a liar if i didn't say so...
thankyou for saying it ws genes..i REALLY wish it ws..it wasn't
my arms remaimed pathetically small and so did my chest..
my back legs and delts..well...another story ;D..but it ws the juice man...
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It gets worse....Im white, with big calves......but the penis??? :'(
I have freinds that are black...huh Fox. 8)
f**k you mang >:(
calves and legs..eh..they grow real easy on me...so does back and shoulders...
plrease please tell me you r bald ugly and a virgin eh?
i mean shit..i'm ex pakistani..gimme something brah... >:(
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It gets worse....Im white, with big calves......but the penis??? :'(
I have freinds that are black...huh Fox. 8)
Mine is completely average :(
Good response to juice counts as good genetics though , right? I better hit the hay. Good night :D
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f**k you mang >:(
calves and legs..eh..they grow real easy on me...so does back and shoulders...
plrease please tell me you r bald ugly and a virgin eh?
i mean shit..i'm ex pakistani..gimme something brah... >:(
I said my penis is definitly not anywhere being of bloack proportions.
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I said my penis is definitly not anywhere being of bloack proportions.
i just realized...
we r straight doods talking about penises..
sometimes...just sometimes..i hate this sport >:(
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f**k you mang >:(
calves and legs..eh..they grow real easy on me...so does back and shoulders...
plrease please tell me you r bald ugly and a virgin eh?
i mean shit..i'm ex pakistani..gimme something brah... >:(
I said my penis is definitly not anywhere being of black proportions.....how much do you want to hurt me bro !!!!!!!
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ronnie = water logged compared to yates..
at which weight are you comparing them?
ronnie has more striations on his left ass cheek than Dorian does on his entire body.
so, I certainly would NOT call this waterlogged:
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Coleman08.jpg)
(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/comp012.jpg)
if you guys think this is "water-logged" then there is no hope for some of ya..
If anything, Dorian's lack of striations (except the lower back of course) and his puffy, watery, separationless quads make HIM look waterlogged compared to Ronnie..not the other way around.
Yates = almost devoid of seperation (see quads, chest, arms, delts)
Ronnie = sliced:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/52.jpg)
if Ronnie is "waterlogged" compared to Yates, then why does his quad show seperation that Dorian could only DREAM of ::)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy126.jpg)
smoooooth...
(http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmuscle.cx/olympia/coleman2.jpg)
much more ripped - how anyone cannot see this diffence is astounding.
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at which weight are you comparing them?
ronnie has more striations on his left ass cheek than Dorian does on his entire body.
so, I certainly would NOT call this waterlogged:
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Coleman08.jpg)
(http://www.ronniecoleman.net/comp012.jpg)
if you guys think this is "water-logged" then there is no hope for some of ya..
If anything, Dorian's lack of striations (except the lower back of course) and his puffy, watery, separationless quads make HIM look waterlogged compared to Ronnie..not the other way around.
Yates = almost devoid of seperation (see quads, chest, arms, delts)
Ronnie = sliced:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/52.jpg)
if Ronnie is "waterlogged" compared to Yates, then why does his quad show seperation that Dorian could only DREAM of ::)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy126.jpg)
smoooooth...
(http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmuscle.cx/olympia/coleman2.jpg)
much more ripped - how anyone cannot see this diffence is astounding.
Dorian is completely lacking in detail.
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Hulkster has proved his point. Big country Ron, RULES the planet. ;D
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Hulkster has proved his point. Big country Ron, RULES the planet. ;D
Both Rons are truly wonderful men.
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The fact that Ronnie is black and can naturally appear to have more detail certainly doesn't hurt him having more cuts show onstage, but in terms of conditioning Yates has him beat and I really don't think that anyone can argue that. At their worst condition Yates was better and at their best conditioning Yates is still the victor. The discussion of who is a better BBer is an entirely different debate.
Yates had great conditioning in some ways, but he was not as striated or detailed as Ronnie. I give the edge to Ronnie in conditioning.
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I prefer Yates shape over all. Post mullet Yates. Ronnie just seems bigger through the waist area the past few years though he did a good job controlling it this year.
I think it's funny for 160lb guys to be arguing mass. lol
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wow, 11 pages in 3 days on a topic that is discussed on every board, every week, twice a week. and amazingly, nobody convinces anyone else of their own point. it is just the same banter. dont you guys get tired of trying to convince someone of the superiority of a bodybuilder who couldnt give a rats ass who you are or what your opinion of them is? ok, ronnie is great. dorian is great. jay is great. who is the best? who really cares. has your life changed in any way shape or form because of them? they will all go down as legends in this sport.
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wow, 11 pages in 3 days on a topic that is discussed on every board, every week, twice a week. and amazingly, nobody convinces anyone else of their own point. it is just the same banter. dont you guys get tired of trying to convince someone of the superiority of a bodybuilder who couldnt give a rats ass who you are or what your opinion of them is? ok, ronnie is great. dorian is great. jay is great. who is the best? who really cares. has your life changed in any way shape or form because of them? they will all go down as legends in this sport.
I take offense to the last part. Jay is not a legend!
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I prefer Yates shape over all. Post mullet Yates. Ronnie just seems bigger through the waist area the past few years though he did a good job controlling it this year.
I think it's funny for 160lb guys to be arguing mass. lol
Ronnie and Dorian both dwarf you ::)
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wow, 11 pages in 3 days on a topic that is discussed on every board, every week, twice a week. and amazingly, nobody convinces anyone else of their own point. it is just the same banter. dont you guys get tired of trying to convince someone of the superiority of a bodybuilder who couldnt give a rats ass who you are or what your opinion of them is? ok, ronnie is great. dorian is great. jay is great. who is the best? who really cares. has your life changed in any way shape or form because of them? they will all go down as legends in this sport.
MELTDOWN
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I think Hulkster is heading for a heart attack and mental breakdown. Fair enough to think Yates had an ugly physique but Ronnie certainly does - especially in recent years. No doubt Hulkster worships Ronnie and this adoration is a pivotal part of his life but to show Dorian no respect whatsoever and to sound so genuinely full of hate is probably going a little far. I have never liked Ronnie'e physique - from the time when he was more streamlined and destroyed by Dorian, Levrone, Ray et al (all of whom look better to me) to recent years when he is massive but shapeless - but I certainly admire his 16 years of dedication in doing what he does.
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Gustavo rules. Aiiiiieeee aiiieeee aiiiieeee!!! 8)
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I am Gustavo...yu idiot. 8)
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I think Hulkster is heading for a heart attack and mental breakdown. Fair enough to think Yates had an ugly physique but Ronnie certainly does - especially in recent years. No doubt Hulkster worships Ronnie and this adoration is a pivotal part of his life but to show Dorian no respect whatsoever and to sound so genuinely full of hate is probably going a little far. I have never liked Ronnie'e physique - from the time when he was more streamlined and destroyed by Dorian, Levrone, Ray et al (all of whom look better to me) to recent years when he is massive but shapeless - but I certainly admire his 16 years of dedication in doing what he does.
Ironic Meltdown. You melted down in the process of discussing someone else's purported impending meltdown.
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Okay well if that is true then you should look up the word "humble" in the dictionary and take it to heart.
You make me cry. :'( ........I am humble ,NO?? 8)
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That ain't him, I looked at some of his previous posts and one mentioned he's natural. Now we know there's no way in hell Badell is natural.
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You make me cry. :'( ........I am humble ,NO?? 8)
You are as humble as Jesus Christ, my personal Lord and Saviour. ;D
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You are as humble as Jesus Christ, my personal Lord and Saviour. ;D
Jesus loves Foxy!!! Of course im natural, i keep saying it in the mags to piss you off. ;D
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Jesus loves Foxy!!! Of course im natural, i keep saying it in the mags to piss you off. ;D
Well I keep talking about Jesus to piss you off ;D I guess we're even.
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Foxy, The natural post was for dingleberry. (see above). I just blended the comments cuz im lazy. :D I am also very humble, to the point of arrogance it seems. ;D
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Foxy, The natural post was for dingleberry. (see above). I just blended the comments cuz im lazy. :D I am also very humble, to the point of arrogance it seems. ;D
;D >:(........................ .................... ;D
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Ironic Meltdown. You melted down in the process of discussing someone else's purported impending meltdown.
And then did you subsequently do the same? Or are you already there?
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And then did you subsequently do the same? Or are you already there?
A meltdown is not an observation, it is the physical evidence of a state of mind.
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A meltdown is not an observation, it is the physical evidence of a state of mind.
I assume this is a known condition so please describe the process of meltdown. I actually used the term breakdown but I am intrigued by this meltdown business - please use references if possible.
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Nassers lats are about to burst from a cerstain substaince that enlarges the muscles for a short period of time.
shopped
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How anynoe can question Ronnies ab and thigh is beyond me, the man has the best abs around and is unbeatable in the pose. He destroyed Dex remember!
Seriously though, you can put any pic of Ronnie doing it and that initial pic of Dorian owns it. He had great abs and it was a pose he carried off immaculately
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"Ugly" Dorian quads vs Ronnie's oversized legs of goo. I fear his gooey quads will run down his legs someday.
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How anynoe can question Ronnies ab and thigh is beyond me, the man has the best abs around and is unbeatable in the pose. He destroyed Dex remember!
it easy, when you remember that having a 40" waist is part of the winning criteria in a bodybuildign contest.
ronnie's beer gut "destroying" dexters shredded abs is why the olympia will never be taken seriously.