Yates' gut this Yates gut that...

[GMCtrk]

smoooooth

[GMCtrk]

Ronnie looking a little "wide" here

[LuciusFox]

Yates @ 315lbs

 Yates a big man, but 315 at that condition seems a stretch. He's just too tight to be 315.

[GMCtrk]

Yates a big man, but 315 at that condition seems a stretch. He's just too tight to be 315.

That's just how good he was. He is bigger in this guest posing than in Blood and Guts in which he was 305lbs. So it's completely feasible than he is 315 here as claimed

[War-Horse]

His actual weight was 287lbs.    But you know how, when were cutting, we weigh in the morning while were naked, on an empty stomach???  
 And when were bulking we weigh at night, right after we eat while holding a 45lb plate behind us???    Yeah its that kinda thing.

[LuciusFox]

That's just how good he was. He is bigger in this guest posing than in Blood and Guts in which he was 305lbs. So it's completely feasible than he is 315 here as claimed

 I have to agree with War-Horse, he just doesn't look that much bigger than contest shape. He probably put the weight where his balls would have been, as most pros are capable of doing.

[War-Horse]

I have to agree with War-Horse, he just doesn't look that much bigger than contest shape. He probably put the weight where his balls would have been, as most pros are capable of doing.

Ive heard test suppression shrinks the nuggets, so yeah,  He probably ran by the schoolyard and stole some steelie marbles from the kids........That bastard Dorian!!!

[Danny]

Yates @ 315lbs

I don't know if he 's 315 lbs in that pic , but we can safely assume he's somewhere in the 300 range , so for somebody who's that heavy to look that sharp...simply amazing...

[LuciusFox]

 He was a punk as a youth, I guess we shouldn't be surprised.

[ToxicAvenger]

what people dont realize is that you gotta watch a yates video to comprehend why he won and why he's better than ronnie...

ronnie = water logged compared to yates..

yates looks like ya took 600 lbs of muscle and then somehow squeezed it into a 260lb body..

[LuciusFox]

what people dont realize is that you gotta watch a yates video to comprehend why he won and why he's better than ronnie...

ronnie = water logged compared to yates..

yates looks like ya took 600 lbs of muscle and then somehow squeezed it into a 260lb body..

  I have seen the video...Ronnie dwarfs Yates

[Danny]

what people dont realize is that you gotta watch a yates video to comprehend why he won and why he's better than ronnie...

ronnie = water logged compared to yates..

yates looks like ya took 600 lbs of muscle and then somehow squeezed it into a 260lb body..

Perfectly said...

[LuciusFox]

Perfectly said...

 But Ronnie's body is curvier and more voluptuous, so I guess it's a toss-up.

[War-Horse]

  I have seen the video...Ronnie dwarfs Yates

T Avenger is right.   That is a good analogy of the Dorian.    600lbs into 260lbs = Density.
    Dorian is dense (in a good way)  Ronnie is fluffy (in a bad way) LOL

[Danny]

Just look at Kamali ...he could be 300 lbs and still look like a fuckin' potato bag...no offense..

[LuciusFox]

T Avenger is right.   That is a good analogy of the Dorian.    600lbs into 260lbs = Density.
    Dorian is dense (in a good way)  Ronnie is fluffy (in a bad way) LOL

  It all depends on what you place a higher priority on, density or shape.

[War-Horse]

  It all depends on what you place a higher priority on, density or shape.

If i had the choice.....Id pick ronnies physique...but its close.
  But then again the kmhphotos of 93 were the freakiest ever of dorian.       
 Nah,   Bob Paris for an everyday look.

[LuciusFox]

I would rather be dense and ripped like Dorian than look like Ronnie.  I think it is just a matter of what you personally would like to emulate.  Ronnie is no doubt one of the best, if not the best BBer, in terms of wins and development but I think if he cut back on size and got conditioning like Dorian's then he would be unstoppable.  I think having started his Olympia reign so late may have hurt him in the long run.  He is forty or so now and the body can only keep up for so long before it starts to lose something.

  Yeah, I was shocked when I saw Dorian posing his back for the first time, it looked rock-hard, not like anything else I'd seen on stage.

[ToxicAvenger]

  I have seen the video...Ronnie dwarfs Yates

and dillett, kovacs and victor richards dwarft ronnie..

volume VS density...

volume aint shit in my book...

yano what volume is...

i weighed 150 lbs 5 days ago..

<ahem>

right now i'm 164...     ..its intracellular water stores being filled cause of the sustanon i'm on...

is that muscle..nope...

but according to you..i sure am more muscular.....right?? well gawd diggidy..i gained 14 lbs of muscle in 5 days!

see my point..

PS..yeah..i actually am 164 ..thats a huge gain in 5 days...and its all water..

ronnie = water

must i learn the noobs everything 

[LuciusFox]

and dillett, kovacs and victor richards dwarft ronnie..

volume VS density...

volume aint shit in my book...

yano what volume is...

i weighed 150 lbs 5 days ago..

<ahem>

right now i'm 164...     ..its intracellular water stores being filled cause of the sustanon i'm on...

is that muscle..nope...

but according to you..i sure am more muscular.....right?? well gawd diggidy..i gained 14 lbs of muscle in 5 days!

see my point..

PS..yeah..i actually am 164 ..thats a huge gain in 5 days...and its all water..

ronnie = water

must i learn the noobs everything 

 Of course everyone has water in them, including Dorian. Just because Dorian was drier and has less interstitial water doesn't mean that Ronnie is bloated and without condition. Ronnie definitely brings striations and cuts to the table. WTF are you doing on Sust?

 The only one of the guys on that list who actually dwarfed Ronnie was Kovacs. Ronnie not only dwarfs others, he also brings quality, proportion and cuts to the table. Bodybuilding muscularity is based on LOOKS ONLY, the judges do not get to perform any tests on the competitors.

 P.S. Ronnie dwarfs you

[ToxicAvenger]

Of course everyone has water in them, including Dorian. Just because Dorian was drier and has less interstitial water doesn't mean that Ronnie is bloated and without condition. Ronnie definitely brings striations and cuts to the table. WTF are you doing on Sust?

 The only one of the guys on that list who actually dwarfed Ronnie was Kovacs. Ronnie not only dwarfs others, he also brings quality, proportion and cuts to the table. Bodybuilding muscularity is based on LOOKS ONLY, the judges do not get to perform any tests on the competitors.

 P.S. Ronnie dwarfs you

you need to buy and watch the 92 and 93 O vids..

then talk..



PS..yates actually had real calves..instead of synthol...yeah..i've been watching this sport juuust long enough to know synthol when i see it

Ps the flex vid i posted..flex had synthol in his shoulders..

and he'd been using synthol in his calves since the early 90s since shawn ws bitching about him having implants..

PPS... Dan duchaine and i used to e-mail eachother on a dly basis..sooo either Dan ws wrong...or flex just had the kinda calves that just refused to move when he <ahem> flexed..

n oh..most of the time we talked about recumbent bikes...which ws dans # 1 obsession

[LuciusFox]

you need to buy and watch the 92 and 93 O vids..

then talk..



PS..yates actually had real calves..instead of synthol...yeah..i've been watching this sport juuust long enough to know synthol when i see it

Ps the flex vid i posted..flex had synthol in his shoulders..

and he'd been using synthol in his calves since the early 90s since shawn ws bitching about him having implants..

PPS... Dan duchaine and i used to e-mail eachother on a dly basis..sooo either Dan ws wrong...or flex just had the kinda calves that just refused to move when he <ahem> flexed..

 They didn't have synthol in the early 90's Ronnie probably just site injects. His calves actually flex, they are just really high.

[War-Horse]

Recumbant bikes are cool.   Id ride one but people would stare.  Im a bodybuilder, so i dont want attention.

[ToxicAvenger]

They didn't have synthol in the early 90's Ronnie probably just site injects. His calves actually flex, they are just really high.

good lord noob..synthol is just MTC oil...john parillo has been peddling it since the mid 80s..for the ketogenic diet

who ya say is john parillo...yeesh man..noob  

just cause it ws made available to the public in the late 90's does not mean it ws not available back then ...

you saying " no synthol in the early 90s" is like saying there were no steroids during the grimek era  


BTW...Dan duchaine talked about plasma expanders bbbbaaack  when folks were just learning to use insulin as an anabolic..what ya say are plasma expanders??

as i said...noob...  

and oh..what am i doing with sust..? well dearie..toxic used to once upon a time weigh 220 pretty damn close to competition shape...we'r gonna get back to that

we'r gonna run the fucking alphabettie..aye darlin

[LuciusFox]

good lord noob..synthol is just MTC oil...john parillo has been peddling it since the mid 80s..for the ketogenic diet

who ya say is john parillo...yeesh man..noob  

just cause it ws made available to the public in the late 90's does not mean it ws not available back then ...

you saying " no synthol in the early 90s" is like saying there were no steroids during the grimek era  


BTW...Dan duchaine talked about plasma expanders bbbbaaack  when folks were just learning to use insulin as an anabolic..what ya say are plasma expanders??

as i said...noob...  

and oh..what am i doing with sust..? well dearie..toxic used to once upon a time weigh 220 pretty damn close to competition shape...we'r gonna get back to that

we'r gonna run the fucking alphabettie..aye darlin

 Nope, synthol also includes benzocaine and something else, noob. Flex's calves looked fine in the early 90's, in my opinion. Good luck with your cycle. Don't go overboard!