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Title: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on October 08, 2017, 10:24:35 AM
Hooray! Liberals are normal!
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Henda on October 08, 2017, 10:26:31 AM
What the fuck? How can that filthy shit not be illegal?
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: ratherbebig on October 08, 2017, 10:27:15 AM
i suppose its because its not considered lethal anymore?
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: robcguns on October 08, 2017, 10:27:26 AM
This world is fucked.Definitely in the end of days.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: _bruce_ on October 08, 2017, 10:28:24 AM
Finally it's legal to hang out with Big Lenny.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 08, 2017, 11:20:51 AM
Ha!  Californians are out of their fucking minds.

I just hope their brain dead policies come back and bite them in the ass but somehow don't affect the rest of us.

Fuck you Commiefornia.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: viking1 on October 08, 2017, 11:30:56 AM
One of the most beautiful states, run by complete whack jobs.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Ted SuperSet on October 08, 2017, 11:31:33 AM
Only in LaLa land!!
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: doggler on October 08, 2017, 11:53:45 AM
FitnessFrenzy, stay safe buddy...


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Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 08, 2017, 11:56:43 AM
Hooray! Liberals are normal!

Is there a link to this?
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: ratherbebig on October 08, 2017, 11:57:59 AM
i assume you want it to be a felony, care to tell us why?
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 08, 2017, 11:58:32 AM
that is pretty fucked

Toy poodle 333 posts in this thread meltdown when he sees it ;D
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: SF1900 on October 08, 2017, 12:18:27 PM
Why aren't you all complaining about the states that do not have any requirements to disclose HIV status? I mean, if you're complaining that California is changing the laws from a felony to misdemeanor, wouldn't it also then make sense to complain about the states that have ZERO laws about disclosing HIV? Not to mention that many states have similar laws as California--they consider not disclosing HIV status to be a misdemeanor (North Carolina, Montana, Alabama). So, why is it okay that Alabama only gives a misdemeanor, but not California?  ??? ???

"At least 33 states in the U.S. have laws on the books that criminalize various behaviors within the HIV-positive population, with 25 of those states criminalizing behaviors that carry a low or minor risk of transmitting the virus. At least 14 states require an HIV-positive person to disclose their status with anyone they share a needle with, such as during intravenous drug use. 24 states have laws enforcing the disclosure of a (known) positive HIV status to all sexual partners. Many states differentiate between STDs and HIV/AIDS, and have passed legislation that specifically targets HIV and AIDS."
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: ratherbebig on October 08, 2017, 12:24:22 PM
the reason people dont complain is that they dont know

only you have so little to do with your time that you actually look up laws regarding hiv and aids
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: SF1900 on October 08, 2017, 12:25:19 PM
Finally it's legal to hang out with Big Lenny.

Say it's not so about Big Lenny?  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: calfzilla on October 08, 2017, 12:33:37 PM
Say it's not so about Big Lenny?  :-\ :-\

AIDS is a cookie cutter disease. Lenny doesn't have it but if he did it would only spur him onto greatness. And if it killed him that just means Christina Broccolini will carry him to the gates of heaven.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: _bruce_ on October 08, 2017, 12:56:12 PM
Say it's not so about Big Lenny?  :-\ :-\


He most likely caught something from the tren-ies  and the germs/bacteria in his filth-cave.
On amore positive note... his current state of health is even worse than HIV++[1]





[1] lame programmers joke
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 08, 2017, 01:12:24 PM
Why aren't you all complaining about the states that do not have any requirements to disclose HIV status? I mean, if you're complaining that California is changing the laws from a felony to misdemeanor, wouldn't it also then make sense to complain about the states that have ZERO laws about disclosing HIV? Not to mention that many states have similar laws as California--they consider not disclosing HIV status to be a misdemeanor (North Carolina, Montana, Alabama). So, why is it okay that Alabama only gives a misdemeanor, but not California?  ??? ???

"At least 33 states in the U.S. have laws on the books that criminalize various behaviors within the HIV-positive population, with 25 of those states criminalizing behaviors that carry a low or minor risk of transmitting the virus. At least 14 states require an HIV-positive person to disclose their status with anyone they share a needle with, such as during intravenous drug use. 24 states have laws enforcing the disclosure of a (known) positive HIV status to all sexual partners. Many states differentiate between STDs and HIV/AIDS, and have passed legislation that specifically targets HIV and AIDS."

Because much like New York, California is the most liberal state in the Union which makes it the most screwed up. It's a toss up on which state is Governed the worst, us or you.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: ESFitness on October 08, 2017, 01:31:44 PM
i suppose its because its not considered lethal anymore?

No it's done to encourage more people to get tested in the first place. The theory is a lot of people aren't getting tested because if they have it and have sex and infect others they can't be charged with knowingly infecting other people.

Heard about this a few months ago on public/talk radio. KPCC outta los Angeles.

Just the other day they were saying std's have increased 30% as unprotected sex has increased because of girls used better/easier long term birth control. Increased std's also (usually) correspond with an increase in HIV infection as well. However, they haven't gotten results back as to the number of HIV infections yet but its expected to mirror the std numbers
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Hypertrophy on October 08, 2017, 01:33:21 PM
This world is fucked.Definitely in the end of days.

No- just California :)
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Hypertrophy on October 08, 2017, 01:37:02 PM
Because much like New York, California is the most liberal state in the Union which makes it the most screwed up. It's a toss up on which state is Governed the worst, us or you.

Having lived in New York and done a lot of business in Cali, I'd say they are having a race as to see who can become the most screwed up state in the nation. I'm in AZ now and occasionally South Carolina and I find them to be heaven.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: SF1900 on October 08, 2017, 01:39:13 PM

He most likely caught something from the tren-ies  and the germs/bacteria in his filth-cave.
On amore positive note... his current state of health is even worse than HIV++[1]





[1] lame programmers joke

But he placed 2nd in the Ruby Classic!
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: robcguns on October 08, 2017, 01:42:30 PM
i assume you want it to be a felony, care to tell us why?

Are you some kind of an asshole?It should be considered murder and one should do life if knowingly passes it on.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: ratherbebig on October 08, 2017, 01:47:36 PM
Are you some kind of an asshole?It should be considered murder and one should do life if knowingly passes it on.

if a person doesnt die it cant be considered murder, do you suggest attempted murder? but even that is a stretch if it doesnt kill anyone.

second one would think that a person has a responsibility to protect himself regardless.

looking forward to your response.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: SF1900 on October 08, 2017, 01:48:22 PM
Are you some kind of an asshole?It should be considered murder and one should do life if knowingly passes it on.

Does that go for all states? Or just california?
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: _bruce_ on October 08, 2017, 01:50:57 PM
But he placed 2nd in the Ruby Classic!

Guess there was only one guy competing...  :D
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: SF1900 on October 08, 2017, 02:00:00 PM
Guess there was only one guy competing...  :D

Yup, spot on!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: falco on October 09, 2017, 12:59:47 AM
Virus are lifeforms, and have rights too.  ::)
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: HTexan on October 09, 2017, 12:42:44 PM
This is so fucked up. Yes there is prep now, but this should still be a felony. Fucking trump, happen Under his watch.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Core on October 09, 2017, 12:48:19 PM
This is so fucked up. Yes there is prep now, but this should still be a felony. Fucking trump, happen Under his watch.

California is getting to the point of being a rogue state, the feds have no control over it it seems. Trump has limited control, very limited.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 09, 2017, 12:59:17 PM
When this was announced 50% of Getbiggers packed their stuff and moved to California.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on October 09, 2017, 01:00:33 PM
#keeptbombzoutofcalifornia
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Griffith on October 09, 2017, 02:12:30 PM
So knowingly injecting people with deadly chemicals or diseases is also fine then?
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: HTexan on October 09, 2017, 05:47:06 PM
California is getting to the point of being a rogue state, the feds have no control over it it seems. Trump has limited control, very limited.
no, if you can blame obama for state laws you can blame trump as well. That is how things work ;)
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: ESFitness on October 09, 2017, 06:21:08 PM


Ill repost this since some of you can't understand why they made it no longer a felony...

No it's done to encourage more people to get tested in the first place. The theory is a lot of people aren't getting tested because if they have it and have sex and infect others they can't be charged with knowingly infecting other people.

Heard about this a few months ago on public/talk radio. KPCC outta los Angeles.

Just the other day they were saying std's have increased 30% as unprotected sex has increased because of girls used better/easier long term birth control. Increased std's also (usually) correspond with an increase in HIV infection as well. However, they haven't gotten results back as to the number of HIV infections yet but its expected to mirror the std numbers
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: HTexan on October 09, 2017, 06:40:15 PM

Ill repost this since some of you can't understand why they made it no longer a felony...

No it's done to encourage more people to get tested in the first place. The theory is a lot of people aren't getting tested because if they have it and have sex and infect others they can't be charged with knowingly infecting other people.

Heard about this a few months ago on public/talk radio. KPCC outta los Angeles.

Just the other day they were saying std's have increased 30% as unprotected sex has increased because of girls used better/easier long term birth control. Increased std's also (usually) correspond with an increase in HIV infection as well. However, they haven't gotten results back as to the number of HIV infections yet but its expected to mirror the std numbers
If you don’t get tested you can’t get treated. So you get AIDS and look sick quickly and kill yourself. I think most people want to live, it is dumb reasoning.
This is just a long term play for the drug companies. Now every single person is going to have to be on prep and if people get it, it is more money for the drug companies anyway.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Moontrane on October 09, 2017, 06:55:44 PM
Because much like New York, California is the most liberal state in the Union which makes it the most screwed up. It's a toss up on which state is Governed the worst, us or you.

I wish this were from The Onion:

California To Have Harsher Penalty For Pronoun Violations Than For Knowingly Spreading HIV


Beginning in 2018, California law will have harsher penalties for health care workers who address a senior transgender patient with the “wrong” pronouns than for people who knowingly infect others with HIV.

California Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation on Friday lowering the maximum penalty for knowingly infecting or exposing a person to HIV to six months in prison — down from a maximum of eight years. Also last week, Brown signed legislation allowing for penalties of up to one year in jail for health care workers who “willfully and repeatedly” use the “wrong” pronouns to refer to a senior transgender patient. (RELATED: Legal Experts: Transgender Pronoun Mandates Are Unconstitutional)

Democratic state Sen. Scott Weiner sponsored both pieces of legislation.

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2017/10/09/california-to-have-harsher-penalty-for-pronoun-violations-than-for-knowingly-spreading-hiv/

Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2017, 01:59:28 AM
I wish this were from The Onion:

California To Have Harsher Penalty For Pronoun Violations Than For Knowingly Spreading HIV


Beginning in 2018, California law will have harsher penalties for health care workers who address a senior transgender patient with the “wrong” pronouns than for people who knowingly infect others with HIV.

California Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation on Friday lowering the maximum penalty for knowingly infecting or exposing a person to HIV to six months in prison — down from a maximum of eight years. Also last week, Brown signed legislation allowing for penalties of up to one year in jail for health care workers who “willfully and repeatedly” use the “wrong” pronouns to refer to a senior transgender patient. (RELATED: Legal Experts: Transgender Pronoun Mandates Are Unconstitutional)

Democratic state Sen. Scott Weiner sponsored both pieces of legislation.

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2017/10/09/california-to-have-harsher-penalty-for-pronoun-violations-than-for-knowingly-spreading-hiv/



from the link
Quote
Brown also signed another law last week that shortened the length of time some sex offenders have to remain on the sex offender registry.

That bill, too, was sponsored by Weiner.

Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: SF1900 on October 10, 2017, 06:40:53 AM
from the link

This is the reason they gave for removing some from the sexual offenders list

The measure was introduced at the request of Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Jackie Lacey and other law enforcement officials who said the registry, which has grown to more than 105,000 names, is less useful to detectives investigating new sex crimes because it is so bulky.

“California's sex offender registry is broken, which undermines public safety,”  said Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco), who introduced the bill. “SB 384 refocuses the sex offender registry on high-risk offenders and treats low-level offenders more fairly.”
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2017, 06:48:02 AM
This is the reason they gave for removing some from the sexual offenders list

The measure was introduced at the request of Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Jackie Lacey and other law enforcement officials who said the registry, which has grown to more than 105,000 names, is less useful to detectives investigating new sex crimes because it is so bulky.

“California's sex offender registry is broken, which undermines public safety,”  said Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco), who introduced the bill. “SB 384 refocuses the sex offender registry on high-risk offenders and treats low-level offenders more fairly.”


Im sure they have an electronic copy and it isnt just a huge fucking book....
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: SF1900 on October 10, 2017, 06:54:37 AM
Im sure they have an electronic copy and it isnt just a huge fucking book....

Yup. What a lame reason.

I mean, I am sure if law enforcement put in someone's social security number, there name would pop right up.

I wonder what the real agenda is.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: BB on October 10, 2017, 07:41:35 AM
Yup. What a lame reason.

I mean, I am sure if law enforcement put in someone's social security number, there name would pop right up.

I wonder what the real agenda is.


(D-San Francisco).

My guess is there are a bunch of San Francisco gays that are on it for being chickenhawks, and they got in his ear.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 10, 2017, 09:10:01 AM
I wish this were from The Onion:

California To Have Harsher Penalty For Pronoun Violations Than For Knowingly Spreading HIV


Beginning in 2018, California law will have harsher penalties for health care workers who address a senior transgender patient with the “wrong” pronouns than for people who knowingly infect others with HIV.

California Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation on Friday lowering the maximum penalty for knowingly infecting or exposing a person to HIV to six months in prison — down from a maximum of eight years. Also last week, Brown signed legislation allowing for penalties of up to one year in jail for health care workers who “willfully and repeatedly” use the “wrong” pronouns to refer to a senior transgender patient. (RELATED: Legal Experts: Transgender Pronoun Mandates Are Unconstitutional)

Democratic state Sen. Scott Weiner sponsored both pieces of legislation.

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2017/10/09/california-to-have-harsher-penalty-for-pronoun-violations-than-for-knowingly-spreading-hiv/



Yeah, ridiculous. I posted this on the poli board yesterday. Then people wonder why I'm so partisan. Just about everything the left does has no common sense and destroys the state. The sad part is they don't even realize it. They want to secede but still want federal assistance
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Andro-Kids on October 10, 2017, 09:28:10 AM
Because much like New York, California is the most liberal state in the Union which makes it the most screwed up. It's a toss up on which state is Governed the worst, us or you.
6 grammatical errors and illogical.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: residue on October 10, 2017, 09:57:10 AM
Yeah, ridiculous. I posted this on the poli board yesterday. Then people wonder why I'm so partisan. Just about everything the left does has no common sense and destroys the state. The sad part is they don't even realize it. They want to secede but still want federal assistance

where's ny and and cali there again? how much are they getting back on their investment? it looks like shit conservative states(aka welfare states) get wayyy more back than they contrubite.

(https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2014/05/Slide3/966724856.jpg)

https://taxfoundation.org/states-rely-most-federal-aid/

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Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2017, 09:57:44 AM
Leave it to the perverts in Californication to come up with this insanity all to placate the wierdos. 
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: robcguns on October 10, 2017, 12:25:24 PM
if a person doesnt die it cant be considered murder, do you suggest attempted murder? but even that is a stretch if it doesnt kill anyone.

second one would think that a person has a responsibility to protect himself regardless.

looking forward to your response.

I really have nothing to say to this except,dirty fucking people with aids should not knowingly transmit it to anyone.If you do you should be given the death penalty.Simple as that.Yes everyone should protect themselves but when carrying a disease those who are carrying it have a responsibility to inform anyone else so they can make their own decision.Take responsibility for your own actions and these stupid rules just further it along for libtards to once again not take responsibility.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: HTexan on October 10, 2017, 02:27:17 PM
I really have nothing to say to this except,dirty fucking people with aids should not knowingly transmit it to anyone.If you do you should be given the death penalty.Simple as that.Yes everyone should protect themselves but when carrying a disease those who are carrying it have a responsibility to inform anyone else so they can make their own decision.Take responsibility for your own actions and these stupid rules just further it along for libtards to once again not take responsibility.
Not everyone with HIV is a dirty fucking person. Some don't even get it from sex. I know a lady, a nurse, that got it because she got stuck with a needle.
But yes, not telling a sexual partner about you having it is evil. fucking trump is tearing this country apart. What a bad leader.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: SF1900 on October 10, 2017, 02:28:49 PM
Not everyone with HIV is a dirty fucking person. Some don't even get it from sex. I know a lady, a nurse, that got it because she got stuck with a needle.
But yes, not telling a sexual partner about you having it is evil. fucking trump is tearing this country apart. What a bad leader.

I was just going to say what about the 3 year old child who got HIV via a blood transfusion.  :-\ :-\

But, yes, I also think that someone with HIV should tell someone else they have it. Even if not from a legal perspective, it really is the moral thing to do.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: FREAKgeek on October 10, 2017, 02:37:54 PM

Ill repost this since some of you can't understand why they made it no longer a felony...

No it's done to encourage more people to get tested in the first place. The theory is a lot of people aren't getting tested because if they have it and have sex and infect others they can't be charged with knowingly infecting other people.

Heard about this a few months ago on public/talk radio. KPCC outta los Angeles.


Well, now they'll get tested, have it, and not tell anyone.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Primemuscle on October 10, 2017, 02:40:41 PM
I was just going to say what about the 3 year old child who got HIV via a blood transfusion.  :-\ :-\

But, yes, I also think that someone with HIV should tell someone else they have it. Even if not from a legal perspective, it really is the moral thing to do.

Where did this happen? The Red Cross tests donated blood for everything. It anything is afoul, they toss the blood. If you have just a small amount of alcohol in your blood, it gets tossed.

If someone has any contagious diseases, they should abstain from sexual intercourse, in my opinion. That's the moral thing to do.
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: Rambone on October 10, 2017, 02:43:39 PM
Are there such things as gift giver/bug chasing lobbyists?
Title: Re: Knowingly exposing another to HIV will no longer be a felony in California
Post by: SF1900 on October 10, 2017, 03:25:50 PM
Where did this happen? The Red Cross tests donated blood for everything. It anything is afoul, they toss the blood. If you have just a small amount of alcohol in your blood, it gets tossed.

If someone has any contagious diseases, they should abstain from sexual intercourse, in my opinion. That's the moral thing to do.

I don't have a specific example. It was just an example that people can get HIV from many different pathways and just because someone has HIV, it doesn't mean they are a dirty person.