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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Ron on December 11, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
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RIP Shawn Perrine - past Editor in Chief of Men's Fitness, Muscle & Fitness, Flex, Muscle & Fitness Hers magazines, and longtime associate in our world of magazines.
I had known Shawn for years, old school, spent more time with him when he was out here in Los Angeles working. He came from New York, and went back to New York to work and live. He came on to these boards in 2003, under the name Konger, and started Ironage, a place for old school historical bodybuilding.
Cancer sucks ...
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Damn...sorry to hear that
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RIP
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That's too bad. Life is short and for some even shorter. He seemed to be a motivated guy who enjoyed his life.
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He knew his stuff and loved bodybuilding history. Knew all of the old school bodybuilders and even started a web site years ago just to talk about the history of bodybuilding in the 90s and before. Part of the reason I started the History Board on this site was because of people wanting to remember those times.
https://twitter.com/shawnperine?lang=en
https://www.instagram.com/shawnperine/?hl=en
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What the?!
There is no mention about him being terminal cancer, no news about his passing anywhere!
He was ripped for sure, but I hope this is some kind of sick joke, unfortunately I feel it isn't :(
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Rest in Peace Shawn.
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Damn, RIP.
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Sad news.. RIP
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RIP
Seemed like a good guy
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THATS BEAT...
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Have I hurt your feelings?
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Have I hurt your feelings?
Why would you being a douchebag hurt my feelings?
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Sad to read this.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger: Shawn Perine was not only a fantastic ambassador for the fitness crusade and a wonderful editor of Muscle & Fitness, he was a dear friend and a great man. I’m heartbroken, and the world just lost an amazing force. My thoughts are with his family and friends.
Matthew Tuthill: My heart is broken for the loss of my friend and brother, Shawn Perine. He wasn't just an exemplary boss and leader, he was one of the finest human beings I've ever known. The world is darker without him in it. I hope he knows that the lives he touched are all the better for it.
John Hansen: I just heard today that Shawn Perrine passed away. I met Shawn in the early 2000’s when he started the website Iron Age. He then went on to be the editor of Muscle and Fitness magazine. Shawn was a great guy and an excellent writer and he really loved the sport of Bodybuilding, especially the Golden Era of the sport. So sad that someone so young and talented is taken from us so soon. Life is so strange
Rick Collins: Today we lost my friend of 30 years, Shawn Perine. Shawn loved bodybuilding with all his heart, especially the Golden Age of the 60s and 70s. I remember such good times with him: training chest in Steve Michalik’s gym decades ago; training with him in SoCal on the last day of World Gym; going on the tour of the Weider offices when he was working there. I looked forward to hanging with him at each Olympia and Arnold, and talking about all things training and nutrition. My last text with him was on November 22, when he told me he loved me and I told him I would be there for him whatever he needed. Rest In Peace, my brother
Dan Solomon: The news of Shawn Perine's passing is tough to swallow. For as long as I can remember, Shawn has been such a meaningful part of my life. He was warm, in a gentle, clever, wise sort of way. One of the most gifted writers I've ever known. I can hear his voice. He called me "Dan-o" and to our closest friends, he was "Shawn-o". It was silly, but it never got old. While we grieve, I'm comforted knowing that he made it all the way to the top of his field. He started as a writer (discovered by Greg Merritt) eventually reaching the pinnacle when he was named Editor-in-Chief, the same position once held by his two mentors, Joe Weider and Peter McGough.
More importantly, he commanded the respect of all who knew him. Arnold adored him. Just like the rest of us did. His cancer diagnosis shocked all of us. He was always the fittest guy in the room, a physical specimen. Sadly, this is the latest reminder how fragile all of this is. Shawn's favorite place was the gym, but make no mistake about it, his biggest muscle was his heart. I can't believe he's gone. I'm gonna miss him
Lonnie Teper: As the saying goes, cancer doesn't discriminate. That harsh reality struck again with the stunning news that Shawn Perrine, probably the fittest of all industry media, has succumbed apparently to lung cancer at just 51 years of age, according to various media outlets. As far as I knew, Perrine didn't touch cigarettes, alcohol or any other type of drugs. The man was ripped; I used to tease him about jumping into a local contest in the Men's Physique category. Don't take my word, just check out the Bill Comstock photo with this post of Perrine's peaked, split biceps. And when he wan't busting his fanny training, he was working his shredded abs off running the show show as Editor-in-Chief at Muscle & Fitness, FLEX and Muscle & Fitness Hers from his AMI office in New York. And, doing likewise on the website he created years back, IronAge. Not only does cancer strike often, it can strike swiftly; Perrine was diagnosed in September and fought as much as he could in the ensuring three months. When I heard he missed the Olympia Weekend because he was "ill", never did I think--did anybody other than his family and very close friends know-- how devastating the "illness" was? And what Perrine had to endure, treatment wise, during his fight to the finish to push back against the damn disease? Another life lost way to early, and even as I type this I'm having trouble realizing this is not just a nightmare instead of reality. We'll miss you Shawn; thank you for all that you did for the sport, and for the walking the walk as an example of what being fit was all about.
Jeff Preston: Around 2003 I stumbled across a new website called “Ironage” and immediately jumped on board. A website focused on the time frame in bodybuilding from the late 60’s to the 91 Olympia, Ironage was the term coined by the creator and owner of the site Shawn Perine. We didn’t even have 100 members on the site but the enthusiasm was infectious for all involved. We spent countless hours scanning our old magazines for pictures to post and sharing our own stories about the era we all loved so much. Shawn’s writing caught the attention of Peter McGough, then the editor in chief of FLEX magazine. An offer was made to move to California and write full time for FLEX. He took the offer and flourished. After Weider sold the magazines Shawn stayed on and became the editor in Chief of not only Flex and Muscle and Fitness but also Men’s Fitness and Muscle and Fitness Hers. We stayed in touch over the years and had planned to get together when I was in New York. Sadly we never got the chance. Shawn passed away yesterday after only a two month long battle with lung cancer. A poster boy for healthy living it shows cancer plays no favorites. From a New York graphic artist writing about the days of iron men and wooden ships to the editor in chief of the same magazines he and the rest of us grew up reading in a span of about 14 years is remarkable. A life shortened at 51 but a WELL lived one, proving dreams can come true and even exceed all expectations. Thanks Shawn for the doors you opened for me, friendships I have because of your introductions and great memories I can revisit often! Go rest high on that mountain iron slinger!
Garry Bartlett: A total shock and I have a sadness that cuts to the core at hearing this terrible news. Shawn was an ikon in the sport and he was always courteous and humble. His soft spoken demeanour put you at ease and his passion for Bodybuilding and the industry was without equal. He will be so badly missed by us all.
Frank Zane: I am shocked to hear this news today. Shawn was a wonderful person and I am saddened that someone so young could pass away so quickly. Our thoughts are with his family, friends and co-workers at this difficult time. Shawn will definitely be missed. F
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Sad... PIP!
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He gave us IronAge.
God Bless.
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Did I read lung cancer? Was he a smoker?
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very sad news
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Never met him but knew him from IronAge. One of the real good guys in this industry. He was loved
but all and will be sorely missed.
Damn!
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Damn, I had a fair bit of contact with Shawn a few years back, this is crazy, I didn't think it was long ago he was last pictured with arnold looking in great shape.
I can't believe this :'(
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Holy Fuck that sucks !! Shawn was a really good guy , spoke with him many times on Ironage , Rest In Peace Shawn!! :'(
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Wow, now that’s a true loss to the bodybuilding world. RIP
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Wow, too bad.
I really liked his site Iron Age and his contributions and insights
RIP
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Damn...sorry Ron. Rip
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Cancer does suck. Sorry Ron
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He never smoked, drank or did drugs, and ended up with terminal lung cancer.
Odd...
But it does happen, smoking isn't the only way one gets lung cancer unfortunately.
(Did he lift in an asbestos filled cellar his whole young life, is it hereditary, etc.).
Many ways to get the nasty disease unfortunately...
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R.I.P.
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51 is way too young.
rip
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Did I read lung cancer? Was he a smoker?
Only poles, likely not saved.
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he was in great shape and seemed to avoid vices that many people have, still died young :(
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Nice fellow in the brief interactions I had with him. RIP.
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Damn, never saw that coming. He always seemed to be in great shape and still a relatively young man.
Condolences to his friends and family.
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how was he living till he died ? just need details to prevent this from happening to many of us
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RIP Shawn.
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Fuck. RIP Shawn. Sad to hear this.
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very sad
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Damn.
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The sad part is, from what I understand, that Shawn wasn't aware he had lung cancer until only this last September. By that point, it had advanced to the point where it was terminal. So sad and such a great guy. Definitely one of the good guys in the sport.
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Very sad. It’s so unfair considering he never smoked and lived a healthy lifestyle. RIP
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The sad part is, from what I understand, that Shawn wasn't aware he had lung cancer until only this last September. By that point, it had advanced to the point where it was terminal. So sad and such a great guy. Definitely one of the good guys in the sport.
Wow that’s crazy
Did he not have any symptoms along the way? Obviously it had to be advance stages, I don’t know much about the details of cancer but I would think you would be feeling odd or not well leading up to diagnostics
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In the current edition of M&F, Shawn talks about his battle with cancer...
On September 22nd, he was diagnosed with lung cancer. He had been feeling unwell for 2 months prior, but thought it was walking pneumonia. Weeks later, a CAT scan revealed a mass in his left lung.
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In the current edition of M&F, Shawn talks about his battle with cancer...
On September 22nd, he was diagnosed with lung cancer. He had been feeling unwell for 2 months prior, but thought it was walking pneumonia. Weeks later, a CAT scan revealed a mass in his left lung.
That’s really sad, way too young. Goes to show time and time again you never know how much time you got, one min you are laughing, enjoying life with friends and family, doing what you love, the next you experience life changing events in a blink of an eye, and you are gone :'(
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Picture from the 2004 Arnold Classic, with Greg Merritt (when they both worked for Flex Magazine)
(https://www.getbig.com/pics/arnold/2004/expo/perrine.jpg)
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It's crazy, it is very hard to image what he had gone through in his last 75 days of dear life!
A common psychology model has 5 stages of dying, Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance.
Can you imagine going through these in such a short period...
When I first read "Shawn Perine- RIP"
I made a quick search, and there were no articles about his illness, in this age of endless info, his illness didn't give oppurtunity for news to spread...
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R.I.P. :'(
Good man, he booted Basile from Ironage ;)
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It wasn't that long ago that Shawn announced on Ironage that he accepted the position with the Pecker magazines. I think there was some controversy with his appointment because there were senior people ahead of Shawn. He really didn't want to move to the west coast but that was required to do the job. Everything seemed to be going well for Shawn until his illness appeared. Oh, dear, what a shame.
I send my condolences to his family and close friends.
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I'm fairly certain that Shawn was born in 1964, making him 53 and not 51. I too am a bit of a historian of bodybuilding, and I remember dates. That said, Kevin Levrone's year of birth was written as 1965 for many years, until it suddenly changed to 1964. Dennis James' was 1968 before changing to 1966, which he admitted at the 2010 Mr. Olympia. He said he was 45, but I wasn't at the press conference - Wiggs told me he said that. I just can't recall if he said "45" or "turning 45". I believe Dennis month of birth is May.
I digress.
This thread is nothing but sheer depression to me. As someone who had the pleasure of meeting Shawn in 2007 when he was training with Phil Heath in Gold's Gym Sahara, I can honestly tell you that Shawn had a lifestyle that a monk would consider ascetic.
This is depressing beyond belief to me.
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I'm fairly certain that Shawn was born in 1964, making him 53 and not 51. I too am a bit of a historian of bodybuilding, and I remember dates. That said, Kevin Levrone's year of birth was written as 1965 for many years, until it suddenly changed to 1964. Dennis James' was 1968 before changing to 1966, which he admitted at the 2010 Mr. Olympia. He said he was 45, but I wasn't at the press conference - Wiggs told me he said that. I just can't recall if he said "45" or "turning 45". I believe Dennis month of birth is May.
I digress.
This thread is nothing but sheer depression to me. As someone who had the pleasure of meeting Shawn in 2007 when he was training with Phil Heath in Gold's Gym Sahara, I can honestly tell you that Shawn had a lifestyle that a monk would consider ascetic.
This is depressing beyond belief to me.
that's an understatement if ever there was one Matt.
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RIP Shawn was one of the good guys in the industry...diagnosed in September...dead in December...and never touched a smoke in his life... :(
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Very sad news. Like a few GetbiggersI was an IronAger back in the day and he always seemed like a great guy.Sad to read in that article that it looked like the outcome would be survival.
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that's an understatement if ever there was one Matt.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry I couldn't be there when he was born. But I couldn't be there, so I can only go based on what I read online...right?
The thing is, it's almost impossible to know bodybuilder's dates of birth because bodybuilders lie about it so dang much.
Bodybuilders tend not to lie about their heights. I have found them to be honest about that. Weights...I suspect many of them lie about that. Dexter Jackson refused to weigh in at the Ironman for years.
Shawn Perrine was 5'8.5" incidentally. And 165-lb, roughly. And in shape! How did this happen to him? I don't understand. I brought up his age because, I'm pretty sure he was 53...but 53, 51...this has got to go down as the most shocking death to me this year. Shawn, if his own words were not lies, was the picture of health.
5'8.5", 165-lb with abs over the age of 50. And on Ironage, his comments about steroids seemed to suggest he was not a user. And at 165-lb, why would he have to be?
I just don't get this. You have a guy like Dennis James who is roughly the same age and who has been competing for, what, 30 years now? And likely on steroids for much of that time. Yet he is still alive while Shawn dies.
Unless I'm missing something, I guess genetics can just be a...B word...sometimes.
Well, my day is officially ruined.
RIP Shawn.
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Really sad to hear the news. Met him at IronAge about 17 years ago.
A class Act.
I remember him saying that "if the only way to be big and lean is by the way of steroids , I'll never be big."
At the end he was bigger than he thought he was.
RIP.
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So shawn expected to survive this Cancer! I wonder what went wrong, more advanced than thought..?
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Common belief would state smoking causes lung cancer. This is correct. However non smoking lung cancer is on the rise. Some 15 to 20 percent of all lung cancer victims are non smokers.
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So shawn expected to survive this Cancer! I wonder what went wrong, more advanced than thought..?
I'm under the same impression, in his last article he seems confident about getting over this, that makes all much more depressing...
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Man, I could tell he was a good guy.
I really liked and miss Ironage.
It really pissed me off when people who don't
even know who they are talking about was putting
down his announcing at the Olympia.
He humbly put himself in the backseat to DJ
while announcing (kind of playing the bodybuilding
fan who is asking the questions). DJ kind of made him
look bad by his interaction with him and some well known Youtube
commentators didn't know who the hell they were putting down.
He had 10X more knowledge than those putting down his commentating.
Really pissed me off!
But that's the kind of guy he was (playing the average bodybuilding fan
to DJ as the expert.)
Hopefully, he gets memorialized by opening Ironage back up...
(Not even as an operating site but one where people can go on
and read old posts & make it in remembrance to Shawn so the younger
ones can know who he is; and read some awesome posts by people that
were around back in Arnold's time. I remember chatting with Tom Platz on there.
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Man, I could tell he was a good guy.
I really liked and miss Ironage.
It really pissed me off when people who don't
even know who they are talking about was putting
down his announcing at the Olympia.
He humbly put himself in the backseat to DJ
while announcing (kind of playing the bodybuilding
fan who is asking the questions). DJ kind of made him
look bad by his interaction with him and some well known Youtube
commentators didn't know who the hell they were putting down.
He had 10X more knowledge than those putting down his commentating.
Really pissed me off!
But that's the kind of guy he was (playing the average bodybuilding fan
to DJ as the expert.)
Hopefully, he gets memorialized by opening Ironage back up...
(Not even as an operating site but one where people can go on
and read old posts & make it in remembrance to Shawn so the younger
ones can know who he is; and read some awesome posts by people that
were around back in Arnold's time. I remember chatting with Tom Platz on there.
Well said! I remember hearing the same thing about his commentating at the Olympia last year. That's just how Shawn was, he would always take the back seat to let someone else shine. Whenever I ran into him, he was always asking me questions about how I was doing and making comments about how good I looked. Peter McGough said on Facebook today that when he spoke to Shawn after he found out he had cancer, Shawn was asking Peter how he was doing instead of talking about himself. That would be great if they could open up the old Ironage so we could go back and read the threads. That was a great site.
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What a shock !! :(
RIP
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Shawn was such a good guy. The last time that I saw him and spoke with him was at Joe Weiders memorial service in Santa Monica. We were joking about how near-impossible it was to get away from Leroy Colbert...once Leeroy started going into his stories. Leroy was awesome..but it was hard to get away once he started. I remember asking Shawn about IRONAGE and him saying something about it getting a bad virus and most everything getting destroyed. Too bad.. because I loved that site. RIP Shawn.
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Good article by Joe...
Shawn Perine, 1966 - 2017
The bodybuilding world loses an influential writer, editor, and tireless advocate for the fit lifestyl
https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/shawn-perine-1966-2017.html
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His Ironage site was incredible. It had so many knowledgeable people posting. The place was like an encyclopedia of bodybuilding history. Some big names posted there. I believe that's where I was chatting with Casey Viator. So many passionate guys who loved bodybuilding were contributors. A one point it was better than any magazine published. The place was an education in bodybuilding and everything in physical culture. Shawn and I debated on opposite sides of some issues but hey it's bodybuilding. Hope he didn't take offense and from the kind words from people who actually knew him I assume he didn't. Nothing of real significance in the scheme of things. Watching him go from the site to running the biggest magazine in bodybuilding was a meteoric rise. I pray in time his family finds peace. Life is short and tomorrow isn't a guarantee. One of the things I hear repeated about him from people that actually knew him was that he was kind. The world would be a better place if there were more kind people.
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This makes me wish I was at the 2016 Mr. Olympia to have had the privilege of speaking to Shawn a final time before his passing, but I had family obligations and couldn't be there. The sad thing about Shawn's death is that he was in an industry surrounded by men who would rather be big, and despite having never won a show, he passed away at such a young age, that you would think he spent decades of his life as a beefy heavyweight or some kind of monster.
The reality of the matter was that Shawn was the picture of health. You really don't get much healthier than that. 5'8.5" and 165-lb? That is basically ideal, especially when you consider his low body fat. Sure, he would be considered too small by serious bodybuilders, but from a health perspective, you don't really beat that.
Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis is a very scary disease - it's apparently the longest word, period. That's a pretty rare condition though...on the range of black lung for someone who doesn’t work in a coal mine.
It makes me wonder if somewhere in Shawn's history he had exposure to inhaled particulate matter of a toxic nature. It's just...very strange.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
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Sad stuff, RIP. I'd love to get more details about this, I mean were there any signs leading up to this point, maybe breathing issues for years or something along those lines?
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Shawn was such a good guy. The last time that I saw him and spoke with him was at Joe Weiders memorial service in Santa Monica. We were joking about how near-impossible it was to get away from Leroy Colbert...once Leeroy started going into his stories. Leroy was awesome..but it was hard to get away once he started. I remember asking Shawn about IRONAGE and him saying something about it getting a bad virus and most everything getting destroyed. Too bad.. because I loved that site. RIP Shawn.
Start a Leroy Colbert thread. Would love to hear about all the white milf pussy he must have smashed to oblivion.
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Wow. I'm shocked. I used to be a regular Ironage poster back in the day as well. I never met him in person but I had many online conversations with him and he was a first class guy who had a true love for the sport.
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Does anyone know whether or not he was saved?
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From Flex Magazine
In Memoriam: Shawn Perine (1966-2017)
On Monday morning, the AMI Fitness Group was dealt a devastating blow—our VP and Editorial Director, colleague, and friend Shawn Perine passed away at the age of 51.
Perine was diagnosed with stage IV lung cancer on September 22, and had remained upbeat and positive throughout his battle. Perine never drank, smoked, or used drugs, which made the diagnosis so unexpected. In fact, he spent the last 38 years of his life eating clean, pushing himself in the gym, and inspiring others through his commitment to health and fitness.
For decades—as a fitness enthusiast, writer, editor, and later Editor-in-Chief and Chief Content Director for Muscle & Fitness, Muscle & Fitness Hers, FLEX and Men’s Fitness—Perine became one of the most authoritative voices in our industry.
As a child growing up in Long Island, NY, Perine’s passion for the sport of bodybuilding was fueled by the 1977 documentary Pumping Iron. By the age of 13 he was tearing through every exercise book he could find, and also hitting the gym five days per week in hopes of carving a physique like Arnold Schwarzenegger, who would later become one of Perine’s trusted friends.
“Shawn Perine was not only a fantastic ambassador for the fitness crusade and a wonderful editor of Muscle & Fitness, he was a dear friend and a great man,” Schwarzenegger tweeted. “I’m heartbroken, and the world just lost an amazing force. My thoughts are with his family and friends.”
Although Perine concluded that his body wasn’t suited for the stage, he began to write fervently about bodybuilding, which led to freelance work at FLEX magazine in the ‘90s. Later, his contributions earned him a full-time position as FLEX’s senior writer in California.
In 2011, Perine moved from California back to New York to start his dream job as Editor-in-Chief of Muscle & Fitness. His mission was to “carry the torch lit by Joe Weider” and work hand-in-hand with AMI CEO David Pecker to “spread the gospel of health and fitness to the world.”
“Shawn was unquestionably the finest fitness journalist I have worked with in the 15 years since AMI acquired all the Weider Publications” said Mr. Pecker. “His knowledge of health, training, nutrition and the sport of bodybuilding was without equal. He was my colleague, my friend, and an inspiration to the anyone who knew him. The industry will miss him. I will miss him."
Outside of the gym, Perine will be remembered for his love of animals, the environment, paleontology, architecture, and, most important, his huge heart. While the fitness community has lost a valuable member, the AMI family has lost a loyal and dear colleague. May our friend rest in peace.
AMI will distribute information about how to make contributions to the American Cancer Society in memory of Shawn Perine in the near future.
"One thought regarding your heart: follow it. Unlike some of your other muscles, it will never lead you astray." —Shawn Perine
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did shawn hang out in places where he could breath in 2nd hand smoke?
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"Perine never drank, smoked".. damn, it's really unfair. :(
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Sad stuff, RIP. I'd love to get more details about this, I mean were there any signs leading up to this point, maybe breathing issues for years or something along those lines?
That's what I was wondering, but apparently, no. He was sick with what he thought was pneumonia for two months, then he finally basically said "I'm going to just go for it" - and he went to get checked out at the hospital, and they were like "Oh, and you have about two months to live."
I have no idea how a person could accept that. While I do believe that Shawn had a good life...that must have been so difficult to accept. I'm still floored by this news. It may be the saddest news I have heard this year. Perhaps that is a Western-centric position for me to take, but I am 35, so it's not like Shawn was leaps and bounds older than me. This could easily happen to me - or any of us for that matter. :(
Start a Leroy Colbert thread. Would love to hear about all the white milf pussy he must have smashed to oblivion.
Great post. I too enjoy the fresh fishy scent of pussy. Love that scent.
Does anyone know whether or not he was saved?
Yes - ask Chadwick The Beta. He knows.
did shawn hang out in places where he could breath in 2nd hand smoke?
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Firstly Earl, I do not know the answer to your question. But I just wanted to say that I think it is a good one. Remember Andy Kaufman? When he died at 35 of lung cancer, despite being a non-smoker, I was like "How could this possibly happen?" But then a friend of mine said that a lot of his comedy shows were likely in smoky lounges. SO yeah...he could have been inhaling smoke for hours a day, despite being a non-smoker.
Still though - it boils down to something that YOU YOURSELF stated many times on here...people in their forties and fifties die everyday...sadly, it isn't *that* unusual, even though, as far as I know, only 6% of all people die by the age of 50. But you are right, it happens every single day. :(
I think we all look for external reasons when a person dies young. It's just hard to accept that we can die like that at such a young age. Sadly, it is possible. Poor Shawn. As BSN said, it's just really unfair.
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Sucks he passed
RIP
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That's what I was wondering, but apparently, no. He was sick with what he thought was pneumonia for two months, then he finally basically said "I'm going to just go for it" - and he went to get checked out at the hospital, and they were like "Oh, and you have about two months to live."
I have no idea how a person could accept that. While I do believe that Shawn had a good life...that must have been so difficult to accept. I'm still floored by this news. It may be the saddest news I have heard this year. Perhaps that is a Western-centric position for me to take, but I am 35, so it's not like Shawn was leaps and bounds older than me. This could easily happen to me - or any of us for that matter. :(
Great post. I too enjoy the fresh fishy scent of pussy. Love that scent.
Yes - ask Chadwick The Beta. He knows.
Firstly Earl, I do not know the answer to your question. But I just wanted to say that I think it is a good one. Remember Andy Kaufman? When he died at 35 of lung cancer, despite being a non-smoker, I was like "How could this possibly happen?" But then a friend of mine said that a lot of his comedy shows were likely in smoky lounges. SO yeah...he could have been inhaling smoke for hours a day, despite being a non-smoker.
Still though - it boils down to something that YOU YOURSELF stated many times on here...people in their forties and fifties die everyday...sadly, it isn't *that* unusual, even though, as far as I know, only 6% of all people die by the age of 50. But you are right, it happens every single day. :(
I think we all look for external reasons when a person dies young. It's just hard to accept that we can die like that at such a young age. Sadly, it is possible. Poor Shawn. As BSN said, it's just really unfair.
i just read my local obituaries, i counted 61 dead people and 5 were under 50
though with the opioids issue nowadays it's possible none died from an illness
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i just read my local obituaries, i counted 61 dead people and 5 were under 50
though with the opioids issue nowadays it's possible none died from an illness
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Great post.
Opioids are not particularly toxic to the organs. I have read no literature that they contribute to heart disease or cancer - indeed, opioids are prescribed for cancer patients. I hope Shawn was given access in his last few months of life.
That said, overdoses are definitely an issue. An that is what is happening as far as opioids and death are concerned - people are overdosing.
The lesson here is don't use drugs intravenously. You can overdose through insufflation or other forms of ingesting, but intravenous use is the surest way to kill way. If you eat an Oxycontin 80 pill, your body would likely puke it out. Unfortunately, once in your bloodstream, there is not much you can do, aside from call 911 and get Narcan from the paramedics.
If I was in such a situation, I would first unlock the door and open it wide, then lie on the couch, and put drug paraphernalia next to me - so in case of passing out, the paramedics would immediately know what happened. But that said, I have zero interest in using drugs intravenously. The risks are far too high.
A few pro bodybuilders have been intravenous drug users - Mike Christian was the most notable example. I would say another name on here, but I'm not sure if that was even made public.
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He gets my ultimate respect. He chose to fight his disease "in house". No GoFundme, No sympathy bumps, and No hospital bed selfies for views.
Shawn was a man's man. He went gentle into that good night.
Fight like a lion without the roar.
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He gets my ultimate respect. He chose to fight his disease "in house". No GoFundme, No sympathy bumps, and No hospital bed selfies for views.
Shawn was a man's man. He went gentle into that good night.
Fight like a lion without the roar.
Great post. But to think Ronnie Coleman was older and is still around...genetics.
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Great post. But to think Ronnie Coleman was older and is still around...genetics.
Ronnie is deteriorating/decomposing right before our eyes, genetics my ass
Dexter is genetics, no injuries, no decline in sight
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Ronnie is deteriorating/decomposing right before our eyes, genetics my ass
Dexter is genetics, no injuries, no decline in sight
True...but I more meant it in comparison with Shawn's genetics...Ronnie is still alive, whereas Shawn - who appeared to be much healthier in every way - is not.
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True...but I more meant it in comparison with Shawn's genetics...Ronnie is still alive, whereas Shawn - who appeared to be much healthier in every way - is not.
That’s true for someone who lived healthy and didn’t do the extreme in bbing at all
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That’s true for someone who lived healthy and didn’t do the extreme in bbing at all
Is that surname French? 😄 Perrine looks French
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Is that surname French? 😄 Perrine looks French
I was wondering the same thing myself. Perrier is French, and I thought Perrine may be too.
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I was wondering the same thing myself. Perrier is French, and I thought Perrine may be too.
It's either French or eye-talin
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It's either French or eye-talin
My second guess, also! I felt it as a week bit too much of a stretch though, so I didn't say it. Although Shawn may have had the look and Italian now that I'm thinking about it.
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It's either French or eye-talin
Italians are useless :D ;D
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Italians are useless :D ;D
The exception being their round bubble asses females
They are prime for assfucking
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I was wondering the same thing myself. Perrier is French, and I thought Perrine may be too.
One of the French names for Stone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perrine_(name)
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Italians are useless :D ;D
>:(
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One of the French names for Stone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perrine_(name)
Montrael girls are.... So fucking hot!!!! OH BABY!!!!
There are of FRENCH bloddlines