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Belichick was right to kick his ass out. Personally I don’t care who’s trainer he is, Bradys or otherwise he’s out of line and Belichick did the right thing and should have kept him out completely. Unless he’s on the Pats payroll, is he going to assume all responsibility if a player is injured on the count of his doing?
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Preemptive sympathy bump.
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Preemptive sympathy bump.
Your mom gave you a sympathy bump
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Belichick was right to kick his ass out. Personally I don’t care who’s trainer he is, Bradys or otherwise he’s out of line and Belichick did the right thing and should have kept him out completely. Unless he’s on the Pats payroll, is he going to assume all responsibility if a player is injured on the count of his doing?
Hard to believe anyone would get injured on a count of his doing. Those trainers are all overrated anyway. It's all placebo and they're all taught the same stuff. Apparently Guerrero has some unique Chinese-style that he went to school for. And knowing Tom Brady, who's approach to everything is pretty obscure, went along the lines of wanting to do that Chinese style instead of the traditional medical staff.
Brady doesn't workout with traditional weights he uses resistance bands. He doesn't workout with regular trainers he uses special styles. I personally think he'd be able to play at 40 years old regardless because he's a good and smart player. Although he'll still make millions off of his Tom Brady "style" training booklet and app because people think there is a big secret and special app you can get to be great in a sport for a long time. Because it has nothing to do with hard work and talent and IQ ::)
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No fucks given...
#boycottNFL
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Hard to believe anyone would get injured on a count of his doing. Those trainers are all overrated anyway. It's all placebo and they're all taught the same stuff. Apparently Guerrero has some unique Chinese-style that he went to school for. And knowing Tom Brady, who's approach to everything is pretty obscure, went along the lines of wanting to do that Chinese style instead of the traditional medical staff.
Brady doesn't workout with traditional weights he uses resistance bands. He doesn't workout with regular trainers he uses special styles. I personally think he'd be able to play at 40 years old regardless because he's a good and smart player. Although he'll still make millions off of his Tom Brady "style" training booklet and app because people think there is a big secret and special app you can get to be great in a sport for a long time. Because it has nothing to do with hard work and talent and IQ ::)
He went in and told the players he works with, including Brady, to not do what the Patriots Strength staff tells them and to take his advise instead.
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Your mom gave you a sympathy bump
I gave her the bump, asshole.
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He went in and told the players he works with, including Brady, to not do what the Patriots Strength staff tells them and to take his advise instead.
I might be reaching a bit here. But i think Brady is more angry with Belicheck about the fact that they won't be able to promote their training methods or market them as well without Alex around Brady all the time rather than JUST at Gillette since his plane privileges and travel privileges with the team have been revoked.
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You can't argue with the results Brady has been getting. Guy is performing phenomenally and at the top of his game. You don't see guys his age doing that in the NFL. He's doing something right.
Also, Belichick is a phenomenal coach. So you can't argue with his success either.
My guess is Belichick told Brady he can't do what he wants with his trainer, but it's not applicable for the rest of the guys on the team.
Both guys were pretty mum on the subject when grilled in a recent press conference.
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I might be reaching a bit here. But i think Brady is more angry with Belicheck about the fact that they won't be able to promote their training methods or market them as well without Alex around Brady all the time rather than JUST at Gillette since his plane privileges and travel privileges with the team have been revoked.
That maybe so but Brady also has the marketing dollars and fame to push his products without putting his team at risk. Again, Guerrero isn’t (as far as I know) an employee of the organization. As far as a player getting hurt? The game has changed. There more injuries in the league in the past few years than ever before. As of week 9 there over 43 ACL injuries alone, most of this lies on the outside trainers that work with players during their off-season but more so on the CBA for restricting the amounts of time that players are allowed to work with the coaching and Strength staff.
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looked good to me in warrior
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You can't argue with the results Brady has been getting. Guy is performing phenomenally and at the top of his game. You don't see guys his age doing that in the NFL. He's doing something right.
Also, Belichick is a phenomenal coach. So you can't argue with his success either.
My guess is Belichick told Brady he can't do what he wants with his trainer, but it's not applicable for the rest of the guys on the team.
Both guys were pretty mum on the subject when grilled in a recent press conference.
Absolutely and I’m not but at the same time Brady is protected on the field by the refs but that neither here nor there, the point isn’t the results the point is knowing his place which he clearly doesn’t. During the off season it Guerrero’s call during the season it’s the Strength staffs, AT’s and Doctors call.
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I will be shocked, if Tom Brady does not run for a political office, in the future.
Hell , he could be President.
Who would you vote for: Tom Brady or "The Rock" Dwayne Johnson?
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Who would you vote for: Tom Brady or "The Rock" Dwayne Johnson?
Hopefully neither of them run. They're athletes and actors. But if I had to pick, it would be Brady.
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I will be shocked, if Tom Brady does not run for a political office, in the future.
Hell , he could be President.
Who would you vote for: Tom Brady or "The Rock" Dwayne Johnson?
Dwayne will get elected for sure because Brady would get toasted for his former ties and friendships to trump by all of the retard millennials
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He went in and told the players he works with, including Brady, to not do what the Patriots Strength staff tells them and to take his advise instead.
I live in the Boston area and that part is all rumor. #fakenews
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You can't argue with the results Brady has been getting. Guy is performing phenomenally and at the top of his game. You don't see guys his age doing that in the NFL. He's doing something right.
Also, Belichick is a phenomenal coach. So you can't argue with his success either.
My guess is Belichick told Brady he can't do what he wants with his trainer, but it's not applicable for the rest of the guys on the team.
Both guys were pretty mum on the subject when grilled in a recent press conference.
If I remember the story right from the Boston sports radio station around here, its Alex trying to recruit more and more Pats players as his clients.
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Absolutely and I’m not but at the same time Brady is protected on the field by the refs but that neither here nor there, the point isn’t the results the point is knowing his place which he clearly doesn’t. During the off season it Guerrero’s call during the season it’s the Strength staffs, AT’s and Doctors call.
Do you know the whole deal with Guerrero selling some bullshit herbal/vitamin treatment that was a supposed cure for cancer Coach? This was pre-Brady. Guy is a total scammer/scumbag who was selling hope to people dying with cancer
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yeah...screw actors.. they know nothing about being president..
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yeah...screw actors.. they know nothing about being president..
???
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Exactly. Arnold was the Govenor of California. The tides are turning.....
Celebrities will hold office. Is it a good thing?
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Do you know the whole deal with Guerrero selling some bullshit herbal/vitamin treatment that was a supposed cure for cancer Coach? This was pre-Brady. Guy is a total scammer/scumbag who was selling hope to people dying with cancer
I read about him quite a while ago and put him out of my mind until this. Yeah, dude tried passing himself off as a doctor or something like that, I believe
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I read about him quite a while ago and put him out of my mind until this. Yeah, dude tried passing himself off as a doctor or something like that, I believe
Oh yeah I forgot about that part. I do believe he said he was a doctor. Straight up said his products cured cancer
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Oh yeah I forgot about that part. I do believe he said he was a doctor. Straight up said his products cured cancer
Finally, the cure has been found.
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Coach,
I haven’t watched any football this year but I occasionally see the injury report crawl at the bottom of the screen when I’m watching MMA or something on a sports channel. I notice a huge number of hamstring injuries. To what do you attribute this?
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All the players who are out of the league are saying that Guerrero is the real deal.
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Coach,
I haven’t watched any football this year but I occasionally see the injury report crawl at the bottom of the screen when I’m watching MMA or something on a sports channel. I notice a huge number of hamstring injuries. To what do you attribute this?
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Like I stated in a previous post. This a direct result of 1. Outside/off-season “Personal trainers” either not doing their jobs or 2. Do not understand the consequences of not programming correctly for the sport.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2750675-tom-brady-avoids-questions-about-trainer-reportedly-being-banned-from-sideline?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2750675-tom-brady-avoids-questions-about-trainer-reportedly-being-banned-from-sideline?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial)
;D ;D
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I will be shocked, if Tom Brady does not run for a political office, in the future.
Hell , he could be President.
Who would you vote for: Tom Brady or "The Rock" Dwayne Johnson?
everybody likes the rock
everybody outside of pats fans hates brady's guts
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everybody likes the rock
everybody outside of pats fans hates brady's guts
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Yet all his peers acknowledge he's the GOAT
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Brady is GOAT.
Coach Bill is GOAT.
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Yet all his peers acknowledge he's the GOAT
what does that have to do with likability?
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what does that have to do with likability?
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He's the best ever that's all that matters. Of course he's not well liked outside of New England he jus keeps winning and winning. Did you enjoy the game last week?
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Like I stated in a previous post. This a direct result of 1. Outside/off-season “Personal trainers” either not doing their jobs or 2. Do not understand the consequences of not programming correctly for the sport.
Please, don't comment like you know anything. Stick to ripping off housewives, children and cross fitters.
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Hopefully neither of them run. They're athletes and actors. But if I had to pick, it would be Brady.
So they should come from politics? Because those lifers have America's best interest at heart?
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The Cheatriot way.
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Brady is GOAT.
Coach Bill is GOAT.
Yup
Gatherers Of Asterisked Titles........ ;D
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Please, don't comment like you know anything. Stick to ripping off housewives, children and cross fitters.
Sounds like you’re up for a training/programming debate. What do you say, mouth? Strawman opened his mouth about training and got his ass handed to him. You next?
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NFL football is for phaggots.
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Like I stated in a previous post. This a direct result of 1. Outside/off-season “Personal trainers” either not doing their jobs or 2. Do not understand the consequences of not programming correctly for the sport.
What specifically do you not think they are doing? Eccentric training for hamstring seems to be very in vogue these days. How do you feel about that?
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What specifically do you not think they are doing? Eccentric training for hamstring seems to be very in vogue these days. How do you feel about that?
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Nothing new. Been around forever
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Exactly. Arnold was the Govenor of California. The tides are turning.....
Celebrities will hold office. Is it a good thing?
What's the difference, they're all actors in the end anyway.
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He's the best ever that's all that matters. Of course he's not well liked outside of New England he jus keeps winning and winning. Did you enjoy the game last week?
that's 2 posts you've made towards me that have absolutely nothing to do with what i said, sounds like that game is owning your mind more than mine
he's hated because he's a cheater, stop kidding yourself other athletes have won more and they were loved by everybody
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that's 2 posts you've made towards me that have absolutely nothing to do with what i said, sounds like that game is owning your mind more than mine
he's hated because he's a cheater, stop kidding yourself other athletes have won more and they were loved by everybody
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He's the GOAT. Just admit it.
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that's 2 posts you've made towards me that have absolutely nothing to do with what i said, sounds like that game is owning your mind more than mine
he's hated because he's a cheater, stop kidding yourself other athletes have won more and they were loved by everybody
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Yes, his entire career he cheated🙄
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Yes, his entire career he cheated🙄
Just another #hater. Imagine if he fought with them all on social media like phildo. :D
GOAT
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Coach,
I haven’t watched any football this year but I occasionally see the injury report crawl at the bottom of the screen when I’m watching MMA or something on a sports channel. I notice a huge number of hamstring injuries. To what do you attribute this?
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Followed by groin n hip.
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that's 2 posts you've made towards me that have absolutely nothing to do with what i said, sounds like that game is owning your mind more than mine
he's hated because he's a cheater, stop kidding yourself other athletes have won more and they were loved by everybody
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The Steelers could never beat him, whys that? For a cheater he should be easily beat by a far “superior” team with one of the best rb and wr in the league?
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So they should come from politics? Because those lifers have America's best interest at heart?
Good point.
Hey, I voted for Trump.
Reagan of course was great.
Arnold has gone soft.
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Is it really that big of a deal.
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On another note, James Harrison just signed with the Patriots 8)
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He's the GOAT. Just admit it.
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GOATC
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The Steelers could never beat him, whys that? For a cheater he should be easily beat by a far “superior” team with one of the best rb and wr in the league?
uh wouldn't cheating give him an advantage against superior competition?
the steelers aren't the only team that lose to them, they have 5 rings since 2001
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On another note, James Harrison just signed with the Patriots 8)
why didn't they sign greg lloyd and kevin greene? they'd probably get about the same production
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GOATC
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LOL, keep reaching.
Youll be crying over Brady like you were crying over Levrone. :D :D
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why didn't they sign greg lloyd and kevin greene? they'd probably get about the same production
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Because they aren’t James Harrison
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uh wouldn't cheating give him an advantage against superior competition?
the steelers aren't the only team that lose to them, they have 5 rings since 2001
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Yes but the Steelers are like 2-12 or something a long the lines against Brady, the pats have their number just like Denver and the chiefs have the pats
But they keep winning.....
2 rings after all the “scandals”
You can’t possibly cheat the Sb against the falcons
That’s all people say is they are cheaters but every nfl analysts and Brady’s peers acknowledge he’s the best ever from Deion Sanders to Kurt Warner to Maurice Jones drew, etc
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Yes but the Steelers are like 2-12 or something a long the lines against Brady, the pats have their number just like Denver and the chiefs have the pats
But they keep winning.....
2 rings after all the “scandals”
You can’t possibly cheat the Sb against the falcons
That’s all people say is they are cheaters but every nfl analysts and Brady’s peers acknowledge he’s the best ever from Deion Sanders to Kurt Warner to Maurice Jones drew, etc
If anyone knew what the scandals were, they'd probably stop their crying. Spygate, everyone was doing it and every team got a letter to stop doing it sideline,but it was still legal in the booth.
Bill decided not to listen, did it for the 1st game of the year, got told on, went 18-1 that year.
A equipment violation is normally a 25k fine (like the Steelers (I think) putting stick'em on their towels.
After that "Scandal" they came back and won the SB again. Everyone cries, hates and listens to TV's talking heads. Pretty hysterical really... (Sensationalism).
Read up on NFL history when Steelers were sinning SB's in the 70's, MASSIVE steroid use ahead of their time. But who cares, they saw an advantage and used it.
Again, pussy cry-baby world. Comical...
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If anyone knew what the scandals were, they'd probably stop their crying. Spygate, everyone was doing it and every team got a letter to stop doing it sideline,but it was still legal in the booth.
Bill decided not to listen, did it for the 1st game of the year, got told on, went 18-1 that year.
A equipment violation is normally a 25k fine (like the Steelers (I think) putting stick'em on their towels.
After that "Scandal" they came back and won the SB again. Everyone cries, hates and listens to TV's talking heads. Pretty hysterical really... (Sensationalism).
Read up on NFL history when Steelers were sinning SB's in the 70's, MASSIVE steroid use ahead of their time. But who cares, they saw an advantage and used it.
Again, pussy cry-baby world. Comical...
Well, Earl did cry when Levrone competed in the Mr. O.
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If anyone knew what the scandals were, they'd probably stop their crying. Spygate, everyone was doing it and every team got a letter to stop doing it sideline,but it was still legal in the booth.
Bill decided not to listen, did it for the 1st game of the year, got told on, went 18-1 that year.
My man, I'm a big PL66 fan, but what you posted above on Spygate is the Pats' fans meme that they use to sweep this under the rug. It was so much more elaborate than that. Pats cameramen wore disguises, they had a signal deciphering guru, and the NFL feared it was so bad they helped cover it up.
I honestly think getting busted for this is what led to the league not being able to let Deflategate go......
I think if you read this it might change your opinion a bit.
https://deadspin.com/bombshell-espn-report-the-patriots-were-huge-cheaters-1729286402
Other teams were NOT doing this. Also, before anyone attacks anonymous sources, they interviewed over 90 people and corroborated.
As the Patriots became a dynasty and Belichick became the first coach to win three Super Bowls in four years, an entire system of covert videotaping was developed and a secret library created. “It got out of control,” a former Patriots assistant coach says. Sources with knowledge of the system say an advance scout would attend the games of upcoming Patriots opponents and assemble a spreadsheet of all the signals and corresponding plays. The scout would give it to Adams, who would spend most of the week in his office with the door closed, matching the notes to the tapes filmed from the sideline. Files were created, organized by opponent and by coach. During games, Walsh later told investigators, the Patriots’ videographers were told to look like media members, to tape over their team logos or turn their sweatshirt inside out, to wear credentials that said Patriots TV or Kraft Productions. The videographers also were provided with excuses for what to tell NFL security if asked what they were doing: Tell them you’re filming the quarterbacks. Or the kickers. Or footage for a team show.
Former Patriots coaches and employees say the videotaping was just the tip of the iceberg.
Several of them acknowledge that during pregame warm-ups, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into the visiting locker room and steal the play sheet, listing the first 20 or so scripted calls for the opposing team’s offense. (The practice became so notorious that some coaches put out fake play sheets for the Patriots to swipe.) Numerous former employees say the Patriots would have someone rummage through the visiting team hotel for playbooks or scouting reports. Walsh later told investigators that he was once instructed to remove the labels and erase tapes of a Patriots practice because the team had illegally used a player on injured reserve. At Gillette Stadium, the scrambling and jamming of the opponents’ coach-to-quarterback radio line — “small s—-” that many teams do, according to a former Pats assistant coach — occurred so often that one team asked a league official to sit in the coaches’ box during the game and wait for it to happen. Sure enough, on a key third down, the headset went out.
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My man, I'm a big PL66 fan, but what you posted above on Spygate is the Pats' fans meme that they use to sweep this under the rug. It was so much more elaborate than that. Pats cameramen wore disguises, they had a signal deciphering guru, and the NFL feared it was so bad they helped cover it up.
I honestly think getting busted for this is what led to the league not being able to let Deflategate go......
I think if you read this it might change your opinion a bit.
https://deadspin.com/bombshell-espn-report-the-patriots-were-huge-cheaters-1729286402
Other teams were NOT doing this. Also, before anyone attacks anonymous sources, they interviewed over 90 people and corroborated.
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Harrison provides Brady with same GH source that Peyton...s wife had.
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I love when Ben asks Brady for his jersey. :D
Ben knows who the GOAT is.
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why didn't they sign greg lloyd and kevin greene? they'd probably get about the same production
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Sure about that? I think that JH can rush and stop the run.
He was quite good at the end of last season. If healthy he hasn't just lost it.
Thought he was heavier that 242lbs?
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LOL, keep reaching.
Youll be crying over Brady like you were crying over Levrone. :D :D
what am i reaching for?
spygate
deflategate
headsetgate
alarmgate
how many gates do you need? from the owner all the way down to the fans they are nothing but cheaters
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Because they aren’t James Harrison
what year is it? he is washed up and as usual it's obvious you don't watch or know anything about sports
this is like bragging you got the hottest girl in town back in 2008, but today she weighs 250
if the pats somehow help him regain his past form, it's just more proof they cheat ;)
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Yes but the Steelers are like 2-12 or something a long the lines against Brady, the pats have their number just like Denver and the chiefs have the pats
But they keep winning.....
2 rings after all the “scandals”
You can’t possibly cheat the Sb against the falcons
That’s all people say is they are cheaters but every nfl analysts and Brady’s peers acknowledge he’s the best ever from Deion Sanders to Kurt Warner to Maurice Jones drew, etc
the pats have everybody's number, and a lot more than that if you know what i'm saying ;)
even harrison said they cheat, he signed with them because he is a jilted lover trying to get back at the ex
http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2015/09/08/james-harrison-on-patriots-i-feel-like-they-cheated/
funny to see kurt say that because he feels they cheated him out of the super bowl
https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/super-bowl-deflategate-kurt-warner-st-louis-rams-new-england-patriots-wonders-if-new-england-cheated-012815
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Sure about that? I think that JH can rush and stop the run.
He was quite good at the end of last season. If healthy he hasn't just lost it.
Thought he was heavier that 242lbs?
what exactly are you basing this on considering he has played about 40 snaps all year?
he had about 5 sacks last year, and at 39 you hit the wall sooner or later
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the pats have everybody's number, and a lot more than that if you know what i'm saying ;)
even harrison said they cheat, he signed with them because he is a jilted lover trying to get back at the ex
http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2015/09/08/james-harrison-on-patriots-i-feel-like-they-cheated/
funny to see kurt say that because he feels they cheated him out of the super bowl
https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/super-bowl-deflategate-kurt-warner-st-louis-rams-new-england-patriots-wonders-if-new-england-cheated-012815
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They still go down as the greatest dynasty and Brady still goes down as the greatest qb
Winning and still winning at 40 for almost two decades
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what year is it? he is washed up and as usual it's obvious you don't watch or know anything about sports
this is like bragging you got the hottest girl in town back in 2008, but today she weighs 250
if the pats somehow help him regain his past form, it's just more proof they cheat ;)
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You’re right. I should get completely out of the sports business . I don’t know anything. I had know idea that he wasn’t injured this year and Pittsburgh kept him around “just in case” 🙄
Go back to bed
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You’re right. I should get completely out of the sports business completely. I don’t know anything. I had know idea that he wasn’t injured this year and Pittsburgh kept him around “just in case” 🙄
Go back to bed
that's exactly what they did, and they released him because they got tired of his whining
i bet you watched more bodybuilding shows this year than steeler games
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They still go down as the greatest dynasty and Brady still goes down as the greatest qb
Winning and still winning at 40 for almost two decades
they are tainted
btw what happened to dak and the cowboys?
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They still go down as the greatest dynasty and Brady still goes down as the greatest qb
Winning and still winning at 40 for almost two decades
Steelers have more titles.
NE is tied with Dallas and SF.
But those teams don't have the aura of taint around their titles, and have never been fined millions and docked draft picks TWICE, for cheating. That is a fact, and is not up for debate because it actually happened.
Those who rationalize it all away are blinded by fandom. It's the same mentality that think Ortiz is clean, despite having failed a drug test.
Read the posted links around spygate.
It's awful.
For some reason, Pats fans can't just enjoy what they have, but have to ignore the truth, and try to convince the world that the actions of their team didn't happen.
They have won 5 SB...true. You can't take that away. But it will never be as pure as it could have been, since Belichek takes everything too far........could have been the greatest ever. But now, it's completely flawed.
Montana laughs.
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that's exactly what they did, and they released him because they got tired of his whining
i bet you watched more bodybuilding shows this year than steeler games
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I watch one BB show a year for about 15min online. You’d be wrong about the Steelers game because I’m a fan but I’m more of a fan of Harrison because 1. He’s always been a no nonsense player especially when he basically told Goodell to go fuck himself. 2. He’s without a doubt a first ballot HOFer. 3. He’s not afraid to level anyone in his way. 3. Because of his training style (unlike many in the NFL) has kept him relatively injury free or close to it which is why the Steelers should have played him more.
If you’re 39 and you’re still one of the healthiest and strongest players in the entire league, still kicking the shit out of primadonna rookies you damn well right he has the right to complain. His first step of that fucking line is as good as anyone’s in the league. Fuck the number 39. Most don’t or ever will have the work ethic he has. No one but HIM knows when it’s time to quit.
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they are tainted
btw what happened to dak and the cowboys?
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Saw Dak and chatted with him at urban taco restaurant :D
You still happy with tomlin and his coaching? I know many steeler fans were pissed about him and wanted coaching changes last year but now they are doing good the bandwagon continues...
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Steelers have more titles.
NE is tied with Dallas and SF.
But those teams don't have the aura of taint around their titles, and have never been fined millions and docked draft picks TWICE, for cheating. That is a fact, and is not up for debate because it actually happened.
Those who rationalize it all away are blinded by fandom. It's the same mentality that think Ortiz is clean, despite having failed a drug test.
Read the posted links around spygate.
It's awful.
For some reason, Pats fans can't just enjoy what they have, but have to ignore the truth, and try to convince the world that the actions of their team didn't happen.
They have won 5 SB...true. You can't take that away. But it will never be as pure as it could have been, since Belichek takes everything too far........could have been the greatest ever. But now, it's completely flawed.
Montana laughs.
You can also say the ones that keep bringing up the cheating are non pats fans, I hear them all the time
If it’s so bad then why are his peers and pretty much the whole league say Brady is the best and Belichick is the best?
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You can also say the ones that keep bringing up the cheating are non pats fans, I hear them all the time
If it’s so bad then why are his peers and pretty much the whole league say Brady is the best and Belichick is the best?
Because they are.
However, the evidence is there. Rational people not blinded by fandom ask real questions: if what happened, happened, and their first three SB win were all close games, isn't is possible all the stuff they did, and were busted for, might have had an impact?
Couple that with the Tuck rule, deflategate, playing in a division that has sucked for 15 straight years, is it wrong to possibly be not as enamored as those in NE are? From what we've seen with EVERYTHING, all those put on a pedestal get taken down - Jordan, Armstrong, Bonds........etc.....why would the Pats be immune, when they're surrounded by the same stuff?
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Steelers have more titles and cheating.
NE is tied with Dallas and SF.
But those teams don't have the aura of taint around their titles, and have never been fined millions and docked draft picks TWICE, for cheating. That is a fact, and is not up for debate because it actually happened.
Those who rationalize it all away are blinded by fandom. It's the same mentality that think Ortiz is clean, despite having failed a drug test.
Read the posted links around spygate.
It's awful.
For some reason, Pats fans can't just enjoy what they have, but have to ignore the truth, and try to convince the world that the actions of their team didn't happen.
They have won 5 SB...true. You can't take that away. But it will never be as pure as it could have been, since Belichek takes everything too far........could have been the greatest ever. But now, it's completely flawed.
Montana laughs because he didn't have to throw to new receiver every year.
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Do your homework instead of just going after the Pats. Oh and how about the Steelers steroid history..I bet you don't even know that in depth history. ;)
http://yourteamcheats.com/cheaters/
http://yourteamcheats.com/PIT#Steroidgate-1970
Maybe they share a GH source haha
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GH source, steroids....shit give it all to all of them. It’s not going to raise your football IQ. You take Brady and Jamison, give them the same shit and Brady will still be light years ahead of Jamison and just as an FYI, when it comes to play calling, QB’s in general are ridiculously intelligent.
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GH source, steroids....shit give it all to all of them. It’s not going to raise your football IQ. You take Brady and Jamison, give them the same shit and Brady will still be light years ahead of Jamison and just as an FYI, when it comes to play calling, QB’s in general are ridiculously intelligent.
I hope this is not directed at me Coach because you should know my position on the pats.
Have you seen his footwork this season? Best season yet as far as moving in the pocket. GOAT
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I hope this is not directed at me Coach because you should know my position on the pats.
Have you seen his footwork this season? Best season yet as far as moving in the pocket. GOAT
Not at all. This was a generalization. When spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to take care of your body, such as Brady or Harrison you can bet they’re going to be in shape to play at the highest level even if it’s a 39 year old linebacker or a 40 year old QB. I’m all for 100% for them doing whatever mean necessary. When the young ones figure it out they should be doing the same thing
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Not at all. This was a generalization. When spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to take care of your body, such as Brady or Harrison you can bet they’re going to be in shape to play at the highest level even if it’s a 39 year old linebacker or a 40 year old QB. I’m all for 100% for them doing whatever mean necessary. When the young ones figure it out they should be doing the same thing
We #patsnation are thrilled to have him and based on our present d he will have a sizable impact. Many don't realize the injuries the pats have had along with a key linebacker retiring. Tom and Ben are friends and I was joking about gh but who knows. Both great players.
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We #patsnation are thrilled to have him and based on our present d he will have a sizable impact. Many don't realize the injuries the pats have had along with a key linebacker retiring. Tom and Ben are friends and I was joking about gh but who knows. Both great players.
The Pats definitely have a weapon against Pittsburgh
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GH source, steroids....shit give it all to all of them. It’s not going to raise your football IQ. You take Brady and Jamison, give them the same shit and Brady will still be light years ahead of Jamison and just as an FYI, when it comes to play calling, QB’s in general are ridiculously intelligent.
exactly. how many 'workout warriors' are there every year at the combine, that were mediocre prospects that are suddenly sought after. your speed, strength, jumping ability only matter if you know how to use it on the field, which a lot of guys dont.
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shit physique
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shit physique
You and Brady are about the same age I think, yet he looks and probably feels 20 years younger than you.
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You and Brady are about the same age I think, yet he looks and probably feels 20 years younger than you.
Sure he does
P.s. I look younger healthier on gear FACT
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Sure he does
P.s. I look younger healthier on gear FACT
You're the only that I can think of on here that constantly owns himself.
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Sure he does
P.s. I look younger healthier on gear FACT
Don't you look like this now?
(http://i66.tinypic.com/kdtnbt.png)
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Don't you look like this now?
(http://i66.tinypic.com/kdtnbt.png)
I look like the bald pic chief
In that pic i was off gear and 30 pounds lighter 😘
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Don't you look like this now?
(http://i66.tinypic.com/kdtnbt.png)
What's so special about this pic? Just a normal middle aged pedophile
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I look like the bald pic chief
In that pic i was off gear and 30 pounds lighter 😘
But, you still look like that, really. I mean, you don't look like that because you altered your body without drugs. However, that is what you look like facially without drugs. You can only hide so long.
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But, you still look like that, really. I mean, you don't look like that because you altered your body without drugs. However, that is what you look like facially without drugs. You can only hide so long.
Not exactly chief
Even without drugs my face looks diff when i am fatter dummy
And like you should talk Ch'ing chong LULZ
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Not exactly chief
Even without drugs my face looks diff when i am fatter dummy
And like you should talk Ch'ing chong LULZ
Watch out. SF is in control of nuclear weapons and has threatened our country on several occasions. Don't push him over the edge.
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I watch one BB show a year for about 15min online. You’d be wrong about the Steelers game because I’m a fan but I’m more of a fan of Harrison because 1. He’s always been a no nonsense player especially when he basically told Goodell to go fuck himself. 2. He’s without a doubt a first ballot HOFer. 3. He’s not afraid to level anyone in his way. 3. Because of his training style (unlike many in the NFL) has kept him relatively injury free or close to it which is why the Steelers should have played him more.
If you’re 39 and you’re still one of the healthiest and strongest players in the entire league, still kicking the shit out of primadonna rookies you damn well right he has the right to complain. His first step of that fucking line is as good as anyone’s in the league. Fuck the number 39. Most don’t or ever will have the work ethic he has. No one but HIM knows when it’s time to quit.
he's a hypocrite for joining a team he called cheaters, and he's petty too because he knows that's the only way to get back at the only team that gave him a chance in the league for having the "audacity" to play a younger and better player over him in TJ Watt
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Not exactly chief
Even without drugs my face looks diff when i am fatter dummy
And like you should talk Ch'ing chong LULZ
This is what you would look like without gear
(http://i66.tinypic.com/kdtnbt.png)
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Watch out. SF is in control of nuclear weapons and has threatened our country on several occasions. Don't push him over the edge.
:D :D
Everyone knows that is not me. DJ181 even admitted he knows its not me.
He thinks he is trolling me by reposting that picture. It just goes to show how much he is melting down. :D :D :D
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Saw Dak and chatted with him at urban taco restaurant :D
You still happy with tomlin and his coaching? I know many steeler fans were pissed about him and wanted coaching changes last year but now they are doing good the bandwagon continues...
tomlin is flawed for sure but i can't think of too many guys that are better
when people have new facts and information, it's ok to change your mind
he has never had a losing season since he became coach in 2007, 1 super bowl with 1 more appearance, 2 straight division titles, etc you can't consider firing a guy like that
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:D :D
Everyone knows that is not me. DJ181 even admitted he knows its not me.
He thinks he is trolling me by reposting that picture. It just goes to show how much he is melting down. :D :D :D
You know it is.
You can't erase the past, man. Just accept that you don't look like that anymore and write it off as a youthful mistake.
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You know it is.
You can't erase the past, man. Just accept that you don't look like that anymore and write it off as a youthful mistake.
Good point. I should just accept the fact that DJ181 is correct.
Those two steaks were NOT for me! I shared them!!
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:D :D
Everyone knows that is not me. DJ181 even admitted he knows its not me.
He thinks he is trolling me by reposting that picture. It just goes to show how much he is melting down. :D :D :D
Until you post of pic of yourself proving otherwise that will be known as you Ch'ing chang chump
Must suck to be asain lulz
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he's a hypocrite for joining a team he called cheaters, and he's petty too because he knows that's the only way to get back at the only team that gave him a chance in the league for having the "audacity" to play a younger and better player over him in TJ Watt
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Money talks
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You can't argue with the results Brady has been getting. Guy is performing phenomenally and at the top of his game. You don't see guys his age doing that in the NFL. He's doing something right.
Do you think other quarterbacks would improve their performance by following his approach?
This is a chicken-egg situation. One possibility is Brady's successful because of some gimmicky diet or workout. Another possibility (much more likely, if you ask me) is that he's a generational talent who would be pretty successful regardless of whether he follows a traditional or non-traditional diet/fitness program.
My two cents, anyway.
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Because they are.
However, the evidence is there. Rational people not blinded by fandom ask real questions: if what happened, happened, and their first three SB win were all close games, isn't is possible all the stuff they did, and were busted for, might have had an impact?
Couple that with the Tuck rule, deflategate, playing in a division that has sucked for 15 straight years, is it wrong to possibly be not as enamored as those in NE are? From what we've seen with EVERYTHING, all those put on a pedestal get taken down - Jordan, Armstrong, Bonds........etc.....why would the Pats be immune, when they're surrounded by the same stuff?
Deflategate literally meant nothing. They statistically played better without the balls deflated it actually hindered them. I understand that it's in the principal of just not doing it. I can get behind that. But to act like their success would be any less different is delusional. The same catch made last week that was ruled not fair, was the same type of catch that happened to Dez Bryant long before that and was called back.
The refs are not cheating for the Patriots.
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Do you think other quarterbacks would improve their performance by following his approach?
This is a chicken-egg situation. One possibility is Brady's successful because of some gimmicky diet or workout. Another possibility (much more likely, if you ask me) is that he's a generational talent who would be pretty successful regardless of whether he follows a traditional or non-traditional diet/fitness program.
My two cents, anyway.
Trainers and those people ONLY have to do with whether a player stays healthy or not or heals properly. Has nothing to do with performance and skill. Brady would be great regardless. His body works for Alex's methods and likes them. So he uses them.
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Deflategate literally meant nothing. They statistically played better without the balls deflated it actually hindered them. I understand that it's in the principal of just not doing it. I can get behind that. But to act like their success would be any less different is delusional. The same catch made last week that was ruled not fair, was the same type of catch that happened to Dez Bryant long before that and was called back.
The refs are not cheating for the Patriots.
I didn't think deflategate had any impact, but was handled the way it was due to the Pats past and history of cheating, coupled with the way they behaved when the investigation played out - brady destroying phone, etc....
Given that, the Pats did have a system to deflate the footballs.
If they just admitted it they may have gotten fined and moved on.
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Call me a prisoner of the moment, but as much as I wish Jimmy G success with the 49ers, I'm starting to wonder if we just mortgaged the future of the Patriots.... :-X
I know that it would have been insane to have two quarterbacks making huge money, but Brady better play for a few more years to make the trade worth it
Edit: All of this discussion is moot if Brady wins another Superbowl this year. Jimmy was worth more then a 2nd rounder though :-\
It really was a no win situation for the Patriots. Brady is such an anomaly, that Kraft probably believes that he can be a top tier quarterback for 5 more years. In that case, then they easily made the right choice.
I am just glad to see the kid doing well.
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Call me a prisoner of the moment, but as much as I wish Jimmy G success with the 49ers, I'm starting to wonder if we just mortgaged the future of the Patriots.... :-X
I know that it would have been insane to have two quarterbacks making huge money, but Brady better play for a few more years to make the trade worth it
Edit: All of this discussion is moot if Brady wins another Superbowl this year. Jimmy was worth more then a 2nd rounder though :-\
It really was a no win situation for the Patriots. Brady is such an anomaly, that Kraft probably believes that he can be a top tier quarterback for 5 more years. In that case, then they easily made the right choice.
I am just glad to see the kid doing well.
It's too hard to bail now. Where the patriots have a great chance to win it all this year. Can't change everything that they're doing 8 games into the season. Someone had to go. Jimmy G might not even end up being great. He's played a few good games. Far from great though.
Patriots will be okay. Whoever is in their system should be decent.
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Money talks
he's not getting a pay raise, the only thing he's getting is possible more playing time and "revenge" against the only team that gave him a chance when he was an undrafted free agent
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Call me a prisoner of the moment, but as much as I wish Jimmy G success with the 49ers, I'm starting to wonder if we just mortgaged the future of the Patriots.... :-X
I know that it would have been insane to have two quarterbacks making huge money, but Brady better play for a few more years to make the trade worth it
Edit: All of this discussion is moot if Brady wins another Superbowl this year. Jimmy was worth more then a 2nd rounder though :-\
It really was a no win situation for the Patriots. Brady is such an anomaly, that Kraft probably believes that he can be a top tier quarterback for 5 more years. In that case, then they easily made the right choice.
I am just glad to see the kid doing well.
We fucked up by giving Jimmy away. Bob Kraft would never trade Brady so they had to get rid of Jimmy. The owner chose loyalty over business in this case. I wish we could have kept Jimmy.