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fasting is everything, going days without eating can be done (without losing any strength)
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fasting
fasting boosts intelligence
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it's been scientifically proven that fasting prolongs life
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Its almost as if you have to choose...
looking good (lean/muscular) vs long healthy life
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4000 calories in one meal during lunch hour
yeah that'll work ::)
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Fasting is good. To a point.
And whoever "Bill" was, he didn't "make" the Corvette.
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do you think 2 meals would make a difference ??
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do you think 2 meals would make a difference ??
Not if they are close together.
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Im at seven meals a day and losing weight, I guess this thermic effect of eating stuff is true.
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do you think 2 meals would make a difference ??
This is usually what I do. I'm not a breakfast person so I do a large lunch and a normal size dinner. Usually I fit a snack in there somewhere. People overthink this. Just do what feels better for your body. As long as you get all your calories in and you are eating good whole food, you will be fine.
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do you think 2 meals would make a difference ??
i eat lunch and dinner only 90% of the time for the last 20yrs or so.
My opinion is the only reason im not 150kg of obeseness is because of that timing of eating.
Because i dont snack it lessens the chance of eating biscuits or lollies. l find eating more often only serves to increase the chances i eat bad food over my normal 2 chances.
Eating once a day vs twice was less water during the day but at night id heat up like a mofo after my one meal (even if only 1k cals) and be sweating. that doeant happen with 2 meals.
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1 meal per day is call "Warriors diet" , I do that very often large starchy vegetable/fruit dinner around 6pm.
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fasting boosts intelligence
fattening obviously don't ;D ;D ;D
(Basile is the best example)
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Im at seven meals a day and losing weight, I guess this thermic effect of eating stuff is true.
you are in a calorific deficit..
Its that simple..
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The Indian holy men attribute their long lives and health due to eating very little.
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its slowing not fasting dipshits
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If i don't eat for a long time, i get very lethargic, and if i keep without eating i start getting shakes.
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The Indian holy men attribute their long lives and health due to eating very little.
it just felt like a long time....
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Good book: The Warriors Diet by Ori Hofmekler
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If i don't eat for a long time, i get very lethargic, and if i keep without eating i start getting shakes.
what is 'a long time'?
The problem for many is what they eat. You want to last 24hrs between meals you dont want to eat chinese takeaway or Maccas as you will be on struggle street battling all sorts of issues.
My wife can't fast to save her life but she doesn't eat foods that assist in fasting. It's not for everyone but there is a massive difference in general feeling eating 1-2x a day vs 5-6x.
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it's been scientifically proven that fasting prolongs life
In rats....
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no problem eating one meal a day
just park yourself in front of the tv for a good 5-6 hours and keep the food coming
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Jesus is Lord
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The Indian holy men attribute their long lives and health due to eating very little.
Many of them have odd guts/paunches, and their muscles have a "wasted" look to them.
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you are in a calorific deficit..
Its that simple..
So what would you recommend for him to gain weight?
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So what would you recommend for him to gain weight?
eat a calorific excess, what else can he do?
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as a gury to the pro bodybuilders out there
in my experience, some people just wont grow by eating TOO CLEAN, for them i suggest adding some cheat meals!!
if you want to know more that's $750 (cheat meal included)
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eat a calorific excess, what else can he do?
Suppose he's eating food which has 4500 calories and his daily expenditure is 3500 calories, yet he stays the same weight. In this case, would eating more calories help?
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Suppose he's eating food which has 4500 calories and his daily expenditure is 3500 calories, yet he stays the same weight. In this case, would eating more calories help?
he isnt... hes burning off more than hes eating, whats wrong with you?
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Good thread grinch. There is a movie on amazon called Science of fasting. It seems pretty legit and well documented the health benefits of it. I can tell u my anxiety is waaayyyyy less when I fast all day. I'm more comfortable around people.
Today I fasted all day until 5pm, then had 6 simple sushi rolls that had white rice(salmon, yellowtail) with 2 draft beers. I'm assuming I'm still sub two thousand calories. Currently cutting.
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I’d rather not live as long and enjoy myself.
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Because i dont snack it lessens the chance of eating biscuits or lollies.
Who snacks on a biscuit? And what the fuck is a "lollie," and what guy snacks on those either?
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There is something to fasting.
People don't realize how much energy it takes for the body to digest food.
I believe a well thought out fasting procedure can do wonders.
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Im at seven meals a day and losing weight, I guess this thermic effect of eating stuff is true.
I can't even imagine that besides all the cooking.
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i did some serious fasting this summer
- no lemon water, no bcaas no coffee
in my opinion the best fasting method is to fast for 24-36 hours 1x per week and then eat your normal healthy diet the other days.
just a pure water fast 24-36 hours is most effective (cleans out digestive track, clear skin etc)
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Who snacks on a biscuit? And what the fuck is a "lollie," and what guy snacks on those either?
Fatties in the office do.
Lolly is candy. Thankfull i can translate for you so you dont get left behind
#MP'slifematters
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My question to anyone thats done fasting as a natty is what does it do to your metabolism? Does it slow it down to the point where you have to eat 500 calories just to lose weight?
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I’d rather not live as long and enjoy myself.
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10.50pm & I am munching 3 massive mango's :D
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6’2 220 hardly looks like that.
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Lolly is candy.
What grown man says "lolly"?
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What grown man says "lolly"?
Lolly....LOL
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My question to anyone thats done fasting as a natty is what does it do to your metabolism? Does it slow it down to the point where you have to eat 500 calories just to lose weight?
Prolonged fasting will lower it.
Start out with intermittent fasting. That is fasting for a certain number of hours per day.
Do some research.
There are good books.
Plenty of articles online.
Good videos on YouTube as well.
The knowledge is there.
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Jokes aside, been doing intermittent fasting for two years. Helped me lose a bunch of weight.
Done with the years of cramming food and protein powders only to get big ... but also too fat.
Lean and mean is better.
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Yeah, I don’t have a gallbladder...fasting is really not an option
Bench
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he isnt... hes burning off more than hes eating, whats wrong with you?
So if he's putting 4500 calories in his mouth and swallowing, he's burning off more than 4500?
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I can tell u my anxiety is waaayyyyy less when I fast all day. I'm more comfortable around people.
I think you're lying to yourself.
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I’d rather not live as long and enjoy myself.
x2
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So if he's putting 4500 calories in his mouth and swallowing, he's burning off more than 4500?
I'm eating between 3500-4000 and just maintaining 197-194, I've been eating this caloric level for the past month, so obviously this is my maintanance level, so by this I need to bump up my calories another 500 calories, only problem is my appetite is gone and tired of eating.
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I'm eating between 3500-4000 and just maintaining 197-194, I've been eating this caloric level for the past month, so obviously this is my maintanance level, so by this I need to bump up my calories another 500 calories, only problem is my appetite is gone and tired of eating.
drink your calories...
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drink your calories...
Yeah, been doing that, set my alarm middle of the night downing a liquid eggwhite, 3 whole egg, pb2, raw cocoa powder.
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Yeah, been doing that, set my alarm middle of the night downing a liquid eggwhite, 3 whole egg, pb2, raw cocoa powder.
just drink high calorific liquids, stop trying to eat clean, its fucking you up.
You are getting enough protein and and clean carbs and essential healthy fats
Mix whole milk, cream and peanut butter in a blender.
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lol @ waking up at night to eat a "whopping" 3500-4500 calories.
why dont you post an example of what you eat in a day, with amounts?
also jeff, would you answer my question?
if he puts X calories in his mouth every day and swallows, but stays the same weight, he must be burning X calories too, right?
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lol @ waking up at night to eat a "whopping" 3500-4500 calories.
why dont you post an example of what you eat in a day, with amounts?
also jeff, would you answer my question?
if he puts X calories in his mouth every day and swallows, but stays the same weight, he must be burning X calories too, right?
sorry mate i don't understand what you are getting at, if hes eating 4000 cals a day and not gaining weight then he isnt in a calorific excess on a consistent basis, so yes, hes using those calories and isnt having any left over for conversion into stored fat.
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lol @ waking up at night to eat a "whopping" 3500-4500 calories.
why dont you post an example of what you eat in a day, with amounts?
also jeff, would you answer my question?
if he puts X calories in his mouth every day and swallows, but stays the same weight, he must be burning X calories too, right?
Meal 1: 15 egg whites, 1.5 cup jasmine rice, soy sauce
Train
Meal 2: 2 scoop Isopure, 4 rice cakes, 2 tbsp organic grape jelly
Meal 3: 8 oz chicken, 8oz sweet potato, apple cider vinegar
Meal 4: 8 oz ground turkey, 1 cup white rice, apple cider vinegar
Meal 5: 3 can tuna, 4 ezikiel bread, all natural ketchup
Meal 6: 8 oz lean ground beef, 1 medium avocado, 1 large bowl of baby spinach, fish oil supplement
Meal 7: (shake) 10 liquid eggwhites, 4 whole eggs, 4 tbsp of PB2 powdered peanut butter, fish oil supplement evening primrose supplement
Totals: 412 protein, 316 carbs, 104 fats, calories 3,872, but more if you count the condiments and mac nut oil I use to cook all my meals, comes in right around 4,000
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Meal 1: 15 egg whites, 1.5 cup jasmine rice, soy sauce
Train
Meal 2: 2 scoop Isopure, 4 rice cakes, 2 tbsp organic grape jelly
Meal 3: 8 oz chicken, 8oz sweet potato, apple cider vinegar
Meal 4: 8 oz ground turkey, 1 cup white rice, apple cider vinegar
Meal 5: 3 can tuna, 4 ezikiel bread, all natural ketchup
Meal 6: 8 oz lean ground beef, 1 medium avocado, 1 large bowl of baby spinach, fish oil supplement
Meal 7: (shake) 10 liquid eggwhites, 4 whole eggs, 4 tbsp of PB2 powdered peanut butter, fish oil supplement evening primrose supplement
Totals: 412 protein, 316 carbs, 104 fats, calories 3,872, but more if you count the condiments and mac nut oil I use to cook all my meals, comes in right around 4,000
replace two of the meals with pizza and cheeseburgers.... and eat more peanut butter,
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Clarence Bass was a big proponent of eating one meal a day.
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Clarence Bass was a big proponent of eating one meal a day.
he could give dj181 a run for his money...
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replace two of the meals with pizza and cheeseburgers.... and eat more peanut butter,
Have you ever felt hungry enough to eat again in 2 hours after eating a pizza or burgers? I keeping the meats mostly ground up for this reason, digestability..if I eat a bunch of pizza I won't be hungry again for another 5 hours, same goes for foods like pasta, pancakes, waffles..these things just sit in you. Pizza with all the crust/flour it just sits in you, burgers I just do the ground beef once a day, again the bread is just going to fill me up. Nut butters and oils, however I agree lots of calories for not huge quantities of food.
Clarence Bass was a big proponent of eating one meal a day.
I think Serge Nubret as well, but I can't fathom how I would be able to take in and assimilate 400grams of protein in one meal? Some how Nubret did it, like 6 or 7 pounds of horse meat he would eat in a sitting.
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Meal 1: 15 egg whites, 1.5 cup jasmine rice, soy sauce
Train
Meal 2: 2 scoop Isopure, 4 rice cakes, 2 tbsp organic grape jelly
Meal 3: 8 oz chicken, 8oz sweet potato, apple cider vinegar
Meal 4: 8 oz ground turkey, 1 cup white rice, apple cider vinegar
Meal 5: 3 can tuna, 4 ezikiel bread, all natural ketchup
Meal 6: 8 oz lean ground beef, 1 medium avocado, 1 large bowl of baby spinach, fish oil supplement
Meal 7: (shake) 10 liquid eggwhites, 4 whole eggs, 4 tbsp of PB2 powdered peanut butter, fish oil supplement evening primrose supplement
Totals: 412 protein, 316 carbs, 104 fats, calories 3,872, but more if you count the condiments and mac nut oil I use to cook all my meals, comes in right around 4,000
412 grams of protein ::) ::) per day , no way Jose !.
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412 grams of protein ::) ::) per day , no way Jose !.
Been doing it for a month, do you think I'm lying? I'm asking for help/advice how to bulk, most guru's are recommending 2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight, I weight 197, Milos recommends 2 grams of protein per pound and 2 grams of carbs per pound, the most I can stomach at this point is what I just listed. The protein actually is easiest to eat, especially if you are doing easily digestible stuff like ground meat, egg whites, liquid eggwhites, tuna, raw eggs, and protein powders.
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Been doing it for a month, do you think I'm lying? I'm asking for help/advice how to bulk, most guru's are recommending 2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight, I weight 197, Milos recommends 2 grams of protein per pound and 2 grams of carbs per pound, the most I can stomach at this point is what I just listed. The protein actually is easiest to eat, especially if you are doing easily digestible stuff like ground meat, egg whites, liquid eggwhites, tuna, raw eggs, and protein powders.
most gurus are wrong
The protein requirements are grossly inflated by the supplement companies to sell you fart powder
Go read some medical books on protein requirements
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Been doing it for a month, do you think I'm lying? I'm asking for help/advice how to bulk, most guru's are recommending 2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight, I weight 197, Milos recommends 2 grams of protein per pound and 2 grams of carbs per pound, the most I can stomach at this point is what I just listed. The protein actually is easiest to eat, especially if you are doing easily digestible stuff like ground meat, egg whites, liquid eggwhites, tuna, raw eggs, and protein powders.
Just too much protein & meat/tuna is not easily digestible ;)
Extra protein = fat .
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if you count the condiments and mac nut oil
1. your diet is complete shit, nothing "clean" about it.
2. lol "if you count oil", so count it, moron... I did this exact same shit when I was "bulking" "gee, let's not count the extra 100 grams of fat I'm pouring on these defatted slabs of protein or into this defatted peanut flour"
3. Jeff, you seem to have forgotten what digestion is, thought you were a bit keener mate.
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1. your diet is complete shit, nothing "clean" about it.
2. lol "if you count oil", so count it, moron... I did this exact same shit when I was "bulking" "gee, let's not count the extra 100 grams of fat I'm pouring on these defatted slabs of protein or into this defatted peanut flour"
3. Jeff, you seem to have forgotten what digestion is, thought you were a bit keener mate.
Forgotten? I may never have known it at all. ;D
Care to explain....
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1. your diet is complete shit, nothing "clean" about it.
2. lol "if you count oil", so count it, moron... I did this exact same shit when I was "bulking" "gee, let's not count the extra 100 grams of fat I'm pouring on these defatted slabs of protein or into this defatted peanut flour"
3. Jeff, you seem to have forgotten what digestion is, thought you were a bit keener mate.
Thanks for the positive feedback dude, much respect.
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Thanks for the positive feedback dude, much respect.
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Lol, I was in a bad mood this morning...
Anyway, just because you eat X calories doesn't mean your body will store "X - (expended calories)" as fat, glycogen, or whatever. There's really no way to know how much you digest and how much you excrete as waste.
Sure, if you just ate junk food all day you anyone could probably go full de Niro and get fat, but when guys like go4it try to do everything in a controlled manner, it's just naive. Especially if you're trying to be in a 500 calorie excess or whatever the hell... Lol, good luck with that. Who even counts the thermic effect anyway. Protein = 28% lost in digestion, carbs 25%, fat 2% or something like that... Then it changes if the food is cooked or raw, and even further with the quality of the food.
It's no wonder everyone says "people are bad at estimating calories", it's like a disease. Here you have a guy who's counting every meal down to the ounce, tallies it all up to "3812" calories, yet doesn't count the fucking oil he fries everything in... Oh wait, it bumps it up to 4000 (including condiments). Lol completely delusional, you could barely fry half a meal in that.
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If I'd eat one meal a day , I would weight 100 lbs .
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I also enjoying
i just had 4 eggs and some sugar free ketchup with a hot grey tea, tasted awesome. :)
even healthy food I love, obvi cookies taste better, but I love the taste of my diet and glad i get to treat my taste buds many times a day
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Meal 1: 15 egg whites, 1.5 cup jasmine rice, soy sauce
Train
Meal 2: 2 scoop Isopure, 4 rice cakes, 2 tbsp organic grape jelly
Meal 3: 8 oz chicken, 8oz sweet potato, apple cider vinegar
Meal 4: 8 oz ground turkey, 1 cup white rice, apple cider vinegar
Meal 5: 3 can tuna, 4 ezikiel bread, all natural ketchup
Meal 6: 8 oz lean ground beef, 1 medium avocado, 1 large bowl of baby spinach, fish oil supplement
Meal 7: (shake) 10 liquid eggwhites, 4 whole eggs, 4 tbsp of PB2 powdered peanut butter, fish oil supplement evening primrose supplement
Totals: 412 protein, 316 carbs, 104 fats, calories 3,872, but more if you count the condiments and mac nut oil I use to cook all my meals, comes in right around 4,000
do you take apple cider vinegar primarily to aid digestion?
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Lol, I was in a bad mood this morning...
Anyway, just because you eat X calories doesn't mean your body will store "X - (expended calories)" as fat, glycogen, or whatever. There's really no way to know how much you digest and how much you excrete as waste.
Sure, if you just ate junk food all day you anyone could probably go full de Niro and get fat, but when guys like go4it try to do everything in a controlled manner, it's just naive. Especially if you're trying to be in a 500 calorie excess or whatever the hell... Lol, good luck with that. Who even counts the thermic effect anyway. Protein = 28% lost in digestion, carbs 25%, fat 2% or something like that... Then it changes if the food is cooked or raw, and even further with the quality of the food.
It's no wonder everyone says "people are bad at estimating calories", it's like a disease. Here you have a guy who's counting every meal down to the ounce, tallies it all up to "3812" calories, yet doesn't count the fucking oil he fries everything in... Oh wait, it bumps it up to 4000 (including condiments). Lol completely delusional, you could barely fry half a meal in that.
I know all that, at what point do you think I seem to have forgotten it?
getting fat means eating in excess on a regular basis
If you eat 10,000 cals in a day you wont put on over 2lbs of fat, the body doesnt work that well to process it all, I know my body doesnt process foods very well, If I eat mushrooms I can shit them out undigested, I know my body isnt using the calories in them all that well