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Deadly crossbows sold on High Street without need for a licence or background checks
Giving inanimate objects sentience , let's hop on the American ban-wagon and claim you need backround checks to own a fucking bow now ::) ::) ::)
DEADLY assault rifle-style crossbows are available on high streets and online without any need for a licence or background checks
Had to throw in all the anti-gun Buzzwords " DEADLY " " Assault rifle " " No licence or backround checks "
The terrifying weapon, bought in Leeds, is capable of hitting a target with its aluminium-pointed bolts at 500 yards. Like many other brands it comes with a telescopic sight to make aiming easier and is designed to be as straightforward as possible to shoot. Experts say they are more powerful than some air rifles that have to be licensed
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"England's a fa g country. The whole society is based on a kind of a fagdom."
- Archie Bunker
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Cool for muzzies to own machetes still though, right ???
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??? ::)
18 to buy a fucking wisker??????
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Pussy ass liberal cucksuckers
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England is the most cucked country on Earth.
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"Assault rifle style crossbows"... Are they also "fully automatic" with "high capacity clips"?
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England is the most cucked country on Earth.
I don't know - its a toss between them and Swedistan. I think they are equally cucked. They are both overdue for a series of mass public executions.
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"England's a fa g country. The whole society is based on a kind of a fagdom."
- Archie Bunker
Best show ever.
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Deadly AR-15 crossbows
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??? ::)
18 to buy a fucking wisker??????
Beware the assault whisk - capable of scrambling many eggs at once.
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Best show ever.
It was satire. Look up meathead's recent interviews if you want to see some messed up stuff..
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Fixed
England is the 2nd most cucked country on Earth.
#1 is Sweeden by far.. not even close
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Cool for muzzies to own machetes still though, right ???
Bow and arrow just as deadly u weirdo, and it is quicker to reload.
Crossbow has a scope and probably more accurate to shoot at target.Ive used a cross bow years ago and would be waste of time as a mass casualty weapon.The crossbow i have used have a tight rope mechanism, i had to physically stand on the bow of cross bow and use alot of strength to get the rope into place to organise my next shot.
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People buys guns to protect themselves, since the State doesnt do that for the tax paying citizens.
Nobody seems very worried with muslims with swords.
Fucking Dark Ages revival of peace.
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i have to admit you yanks are so much more "advanced" with your weapon legislation. that's why kids are routinely massacred in your schools, to the point where if only 10 kids are offed in one massacre no one even bats an eyelid anymore.
yes with your track record you're really in a position to be ridiculing other countries' laws ???
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i have to admit you yanks are so much more "advanced" with your weapon legislation. that's why kids are routinely massacred in your schools, to the point where if only 10 kids are offed in one massacre no one even bats an eyelid anymore.
yes with your track record you're really in a position to be ridiculing other countries' laws ???
But U are muslim !.
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Deadly crossbows sold on High Street without need for a licence or background checks
Great news for Robin of Sherwood & his gang :)
How many acid attacks in London today ????.
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But U are muslim !.
no i'm not but U are a brainless moron.
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People buys guns to protect themselves, since the State doesnt do that for the tax paying citizens.
Nobody seems very worried with muslims with swords.
Fucking Dark Ages revival of peace.
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this is the truth. everyone needs a hand gun. If you & your Family are attacked by a Muslim horde armed to the teeth what are you supposed to do? pray? ???
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i have to admit you yanks are so much more "advanced" with your weapon legislation. that's why kids are routinely massacred in your schools, to the point where if only 10 kids are offed in one massacre no one even bats an eyelid anymore.
yes with your track record you're really in a position to be ridiculing other countries' laws ???
We're so much more free than you ;) Depending on the state. And weapons legislation isn't the problem dummy , States like Vermont have almost NO gun laws and have NO gun violence , same with New Hampshire , yet states with heavily legislated gun laws , Illinois and Maryland , LA , etc have a huge gun violence problem. That's your problem , you think one more law will solve problems , that Daddy Government is the solution. Next thing you know you need to be 18 in order to buy a fucking whisker ::)
Oh and for all your enlightened weapons legislation you're now more like to be killed in London than NYC , congrats you've accomplished zero. ;)
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We're so much more free than you ;) Depending on the state. And weapons legislation isn't the problem dummy , States like Vermont have almost NO gun laws and have NO gun violence , same with New Hampshire , yet states with heavily legislated gun laws , Illinois and Maryland , LA , etc have a huge gun violence problem. That's your problem , you think one more law will solve problems , that Daddy Government is the solution. Next thing you know you need to be 18 in order to buy a fucking whisker ::)
Oh and for all your enlightened weapons legislation you're now more like to be killed in London than NYC , congrats you've accomplished zero. ;)
no you're not. feeling the need to carry a gun around to feel safe is not most sane people's idea of freedom. law abiding citizens in the UK generally don't feel that need. only criminals need guns for protection.
there are certain things that are prohibited in the states that aren't in the UK, anabolic steroids being one(BB related). you have no more freedom whatsoever. alcohol is still illegal in some regions in the states! you've just bought this bs line from the nra that "freedom" boils down to owning a gun. it doesn't. having so many guns in circulation is actually curtailing your freedom.
having to fortify schools and employ armed guards and teachers is freedom? ::) #
and it was one month(feb 18) that london had a higher homicide rate than new york...and you draw from that "you are now more likely to be killed in london than new york" ? crock of sht. what about every other month in recorded history ? also i would take a guess that new york happens to be one of the safer major US cities in terms of gun violence?
why not compare capital to capital. london to washington d.c :-X
gun laws aren't the problem per say. it's ease of access. tightening gun control laws would help to some extent. but unless you start taking measures to rid society of a large number of those already in circulation, the gun violence nightmare will not go away.
btw LA isn't a state and CA has one of the lowest gun death rates of all states. ;)
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England is the most cucked country on Earth.
tied with Sweden!!!
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You can't own a crossbow at all in Australia. I asked a guy at an archery shop for one and I thought he was going to call the police. ::)
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Having a grand old time surrendering every single last way of defending themselves.
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Can this be right?!?
"The terrifying weapon, bought in Leeds, is capable of hitting a target with its aluminium-pointed bolts at 500 yards"
It's made me want to buy one... :P
(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/Crossbow-for-sale-uk-high-street-959322.jpg)
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no you're not. feeling the need to carry a gun around to feel safe is not most sane people's idea of freedom. law abiding citizens in the UK generally don't feel that need. only criminals need guns for protection.
there are certain things that are prohibited in the states that aren't in the UK, anabolic steroids being one(BB related). you have no more freedom whatsoever. alcohol is still illegal in some regions in the states! you've just bought this bs line from the nra that "freedom" boils down to owning a gun. it doesn't. having so many guns in circulation is actually curtailing your freedom.
having to fortify schools and employ armed guards and teachers is freedom? ::) #
and it was one month(feb 18) that london had a higher homicide rate than new york...and you draw from that "you are now more likely to be killed in london than new york" ? crock of sht. what about every other month in recorded history ? also i would take a guess that new york happens to be one of the safer major US cities in terms of gun violence?
why not compare capital to capital. london to washington d.c :-X
gun laws aren't the problem per say. it's ease of access. tightening gun control laws would help to some extent. but unless you start taking measures to rid society of a large number of those already in circulation, the gun violence nightmare will not go away.
btw LA isn't a state and CA has one of the lowest gun death rates of all states. ;)
no you're not. feeling the need to carry a gun around to feel safe is not most sane people's idea of freedom. law abiding citizens in the UK generally don't feel that need. only criminals need guns for protection.
Says someone subservient to the Government for their protection. Meanwhile you're safer in NYC than in London and you need to be 18 to buy a fucking whisker ::) Your Government are the fucking criminals , think about that.
there are certain things that are prohibited in the states that aren't in the UK, anabolic steroids being one(BB related). you have no more freedom whatsoever. alcohol is still illegal in some regions in the states! you've just bought this bs line from the nra that "freedom" boils down to owning a gun. it doesn't. having so many guns in circulation is actually curtailing your freedom.
As usual stupid , WRONG !! Steroids are prohibited without a PRESCRIPTION ;) TRT , GH etc all available legally in the states know what you're talking about before typing. And I don't know where you got that alcohol is illegal in some regions? ??? And please stop projecting , It's been explained to you I'm NOT a NRA member , never have been , never will be , the NRA are useful idiots but they're impotent in the scheme of things and they've thrown many a gun owner under the bus.
When your Daddy government keep ramming things down your throats you'll get the idea on just how much freedom you really have. You're powerless to do anything , they're already infringing on your right to speak freely , you think things get better from here on in? Your cities already getting more violent than ours. You're iceskating up-hill
having to fortify schools and employ armed guards and teachers is freedom?
It's the price of freedom , you think freedom is free?
and it was one month(feb 18) that london had a higher homicide rate than new york...and you draw from that "you are now more likely to be killed in london than new york" ? crock of sht. what about every other month in recorded history ? also i would take a guess that new york happens to be one of the safer major US cities in terms of gun violence?
It was two months thank you and I agree while it's not reaching epidemic proportions ( yet ) there is a pattern , especially when they're banning knives and whiskers
why not compare capital to capital. london to washington d.c
D.C which prohibited guns BTW ;) thanks for proving my point
gun laws aren't the problem per say. it's ease of access. tightening gun control laws would help to some extent. but unless you start taking measures to rid society of a large number of those already in circulation, the gun violence nightmare will not go away.
See this is where you're hopelessly lost. NO proposed laws would have prevented ANY of these tragedies , you can't prove it and ANYTHING being foisted is a lie. There is NO such thing as " gun violence " there is violence and the use of a tool in doing it. And these types will go despite the tools being used. 86 dead with a truck more than ANY AR15
btw LA isn't a state and CA has one of the lowest gun death rates of all states.
Oh for fucks sake ::) You're so fucking stupid , Yes LA is a state Louisiana :o :o :o ;)
I told you before don't type , you're exposing how stupid you are with each post
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no, you do not need to be 18 to buy a whisker in the uk. that is absolute shite and only a complete idiot would believe that.
steroids are legal to use in the uk WITHOUT prescription and not in the US . no medication is illegal anywhere in the world if it's "prescribed" i thought it would be obvious to even a moron that it was meant without prescription(obviously not)
"A dry county is a county in the United States whose government forbids the sale of any kind of alcoholic beverages. Some prohibit off-premises sale, some prohibit on-premises sale, and some prohibit both. Hundreds of dry counties exist across the United States"
so you have so much "freedom" yet you can't even buy a simple alcoholic beverage in HUNDREDS of counties! LOL so much freedom!
no our cities are not getting more violent than yours. there is not a single credible bit of evidence you can produce that shows that...because it is complete bllx. one of your safest cities had a lower murder rate than one of our most violent(though still way safer than vast majority of us cities) for a month or two. wowee!
so the price of freedom is a loss of freedom...i'm sure that somehow makes sense in your little pea brain. ???
if you had basic comprehension skills you would have understood that i said gun laws were not the major problem. if the gunman or "gunkid" in many of these "tragedies" didn't have access to a firearm it's highly likely no tragedy would have taken place , at the very least not on anywhere near the same scale.
there's a reason why this sht is routine in the us and rarer than rocking horse sht in the rest of the 1st world. the sole reason is access to guns. you read it here first dimwit. groundbreaking news for your little pea brain to take in!
well done you got me! i thought you were referring to LA the city instead of state. due to the law of averages i suppose you had to catch me out on something sometime. after being wrong on a hundred or so points up to now, you finally caught me out on a triviality. congrats!
still doesn't change the fact though, that CA has some of the strictest gun laws and also one of the lowest gun violence rates. ;)
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no, you do not need to be 18 to buy a whisker in the uk. that is absolute shite and only a complete idiot would believe that.
steroids are legal to use in the uk WITHOUT prescription and not in the US . no medication is illegal anywhere in the world if it's "prescribed" i thought it would be obvious to even a moron that it was meant without prescription(obviously not)
"A dry county is a county in the United States whose government forbids the sale of any kind of alcoholic beverages. Some prohibit off-premises sale, some prohibit on-premises sale, and some prohibit both. Hundreds of dry counties exist across the United States"
so you have so much "freedom" yet you can't even buy a simple alcoholic beverage in HUNDREDS of counties! LOL so much freedom!
no our cities are not getting more violent than yours. there is not a single credible bit of evidence you can produce that shows that...because it is complete bllx. one of your safest cities had a lower murder rate than one of our most violent(though still way safer than vast majority of us cities) for a month or two. wowee!
so the price of freedom is a loss of freedom...i'm sure that somehow makes sense in your little pea brain. ???
if you had basic comprehension skills you would have understood that i said gun laws were not the major problem. if the gunman or "gunkid" in many of these "tragedies" didn't have access to a firearm it's highly likely no tragedy would have taken place , at the very least not on anywhere near the same scale.
there's a reason why this sht is routine in the us and rarer than rocking horse sht in the rest of the 1st world. the sole reason is access to guns. you read it here first dimwit. groundbreaking news for your little pea brain to take in!
well done you got me! i thought you were referring to LA the city instead of state. due to the law of averages i suppose you had to catch me out on something sometime. after being wrong on a hundred or so points up to now, you finally caught me out on a triviality. congrats!
still doesn't change the fact though, that CA has some of the strictest gun laws and also one of the lowest gun violence rates. ;)
A "dry county" doesn't mean "sober citizens". It's ironic that Moore County, Tennessee is home to Jack Daniels and is a dry county, so Jack Daniels is not sold in that county.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county)
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no, you do not need to be 18 to buy a whisker in the uk. that is absolute shite and only a complete idiot would believe that.
steroids are legal to use in the uk WITHOUT prescription and not in the US . no medication is illegal anywhere in the world if it's "prescribed" i thought it would be obvious to even a moron that it was meant without prescription(obviously not)
"A dry county is a county in the United States whose government forbids the sale of any kind of alcoholic beverages. Some prohibit off-premises sale, some prohibit on-premises sale, and some prohibit both. Hundreds of dry counties exist across the United States"
so you have so much "freedom" yet you can't even buy a simple alcoholic beverage in HUNDREDS of counties! LOL so much freedom!
no our cities are not getting more violent than yours. there is not a single credible bit of evidence you can produce that shows that...because it is complete bllx. one of your safest cities had a lower murder rate than one of our most violent(though still way safer than vast majority of us cities) for a month or two. wowee!
so the price of freedom is a loss of freedom...i'm sure that somehow makes sense in your little pea brain. ???
if you had basic comprehension skills you would have understood that i said gun laws were not the major problem. if the gunman or "gunkid" in many of these "tragedies" didn't have access to a firearm it's highly likely no tragedy would have taken place , at the very least not on anywhere near the same scale.
there's a reason why this sht is routine in the us and rarer than rocking horse sht in the rest of the 1st world. the sole reason is access to guns. you read it here first dimwit. groundbreaking news for your little pea brain to take in!
well done you got me! i thought you were referring to LA the city instead of state. due to the law of averages i suppose you had to catch me out on something sometime. after being wrong on a hundred or so points up to now, you finally caught me out on a triviality. congrats!
still doesn't change the fact though, that CA has some of the strictest gun laws and also one of the lowest gun violence rates. ;)
no, you do not need to be 18 to buy a whisker in the uk. that is absolute shite and only a complete idiot would believe that.
What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. But this is Conker he doesn't care about proof.
steroids are legal to use in the uk WITHOUT prescription and not in the US . no medication is illegal anywhere in the world if it's "prescribed" i thought it would be obvious to even a moron that it was meant without prescription(obviously not)
You said anabolics are prohibited in the US , they're not per sa , you were wrong , as usual
"A dry county is a county in the United States whose government forbids the sale of any kind of alcoholic beverages. Some prohibit off-premises sale, some prohibit on-premises sale, and some prohibit both. Hundreds of dry counties exist across the United States"
so you have so much "freedom" yet you can't even buy a simple alcoholic beverage in HUNDREDS of counties! LOL so much freedom!
There is MILLIONS of places to buy it even if some places don't. It's the exception NOT the rule , dummy.
This is freedom stupid , try this in the U.K 8)
no our cities are not getting more violent than yours. there is not a single credible bit of evidence you can produce that shows that...because it is complete bllx. one of your safest cities had a lower murder rate than one of our most violent(though still way safer than vast majority of us cities) for a month or two. wowee!
I was toying with you on that subject but those two means speak volumes even you have to raise an eyebrow on that.
so the price of freedom is a loss of freedom...i'm sure that somehow makes sense in your little pea brain. ???
You were attempting to make a point? You didn't make it.
if you had basic comprehension skills you would have understood that i said gun laws were not the major problem. if the gunman or "gunkid" in many of these "tragedies" didn't have access to a firearm it's highly likely no tragedy would have taken place , at the very least not on anywhere near the same scale.
You contradict yourself habitually but your point still blows. No access to firearms guy kills 86 with a truck, Your point is NOT a point. And these events are rare in the scheme of things , this is proven to you. Your perception is warped on this topic and that's bias. You have a better chance of hitting Powerball TWICE !! than to ever get shot by an AR15 in a mass shooting.
there's a reason why this sht is routine in the us and rarer than rocking horse sht in the rest of the 1st world. the sole reason is access to guns. you read it here first dimwit. groundbreaking news for your little pea brain to take in!
You suck at math , 400 Million guns in the US the odds of getting shot in a mass shooting are exceedingly rare , this is indisputable. 400 fucking millions guns the U.S. and a .00001% get shot in a mass shooting and we have a " gun violence " problem? Even for a dolt like you can grasp this , wait , no you can't this is why we're here ;)
well done you got me! i thought you were referring to LA the city instead of state. due to the law of averages i suppose you had to catch me out on something sometime. after being wrong on a hundred or so points up to now, you finally caught me out on a triviality. congrats!
The fact you think this is the only time you've been got shows how daft you are.
still doesn't change the fact though, that CA has some of the strictest gun laws and also one of the lowest gun violence rates.
VA ( Vermont for fucking morons like you ;) ) has almost no gun laws , and No gun violence problems , NH ( New Hampshire for fucking idiots like you ;) ) same thing , Maine , etc I can go on.
Keep posting , I'll keep correcting ;)
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The f aggotry and weakness in ol’ Britain is gaining momentum.
I predict a filthy Muzzie will gain entrance to a royal residence sometime in the not-too-distant future and behead one of the fancy-pants inbreds.
The Allah cockroaches are living in densely populated enclaves, all working each other into frothy Jihadi menaces. It’s unavoidable. The very core structure of Islam is toxic, violent and totalitarian. Intolerant.
There is no such thing as a moderate Muzzie.
Add into the mix the low IQs/unsophistication of an overwhelming majority of the believers and it’s a bomb waiting to go off. With each additional raghead comes more Islamic fervor.
The UK’s heading towards ruin.
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still doesn't change the fact though, that CA has some of the strictest gun laws and also one of the lowest gun violence rates. ;)
Bullshit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state
CA had more gun murders than Texas ::)
2016 Texas had 200 more deaths by firearms
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
Stats appear to include suicides
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRord
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But U are muslim !.
Lol u got owned by Conker, LMAO
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What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. But this is Conker he doesn't care about proof.
exactly dimwit. it was you who made the assertion that you had to be over 18 to buy a whisker in the UK...what a ridiculous claim
You said anabolics are prohibited in the US , they're not per sa , you were wrong , as usual
i clarified that i meant without prescription. your little "daddy government" doesn't want fellas getting too hench or they might overthrow them :-X
There is MILLIONS of places to buy it even if some places don't. It's the exception NOT the rule , dummy.
i never said it was the rule, dummy. but we have no such restrictions ANYWHERE in the uk
This is freedom stupid , try this in the U.K 8)
if you have so much freedom why can't you legally jack up steeroids? or buy alcohol in many places? while your government milks it's fat gun sales revenue it pushes this line that as long you can own a gun you have freedom and you and millions of other brainwashed zombies buy it. it's BS. having to herd kids around through metal detectors etc practice "active shooter" drills and have armed guards present at school is not freedom. it's a loss of freedom.
I was toying with you on that subject but those two means speak volumes even you have to raise an eyebrow on that.
You were attempting to make a point? You didn't make it.
see above. so many guns in circulation does not equal freedom. it equals a loss of freedom
You contradict yourself habitually but your point still blows. No access to firearms guy kills 86 with a truck, Your point is NOT a point. And these events are rare in the scheme of things , this is proven to you. Your perception is warped on this topic and that's bias. You have a better chance of hitting Powerball TWICE !! than to ever get shot by an AR15 in a mass shooting.
i said these events are "routine" in the us, which is FACT. what do you call something that happens every month or so, if not routine?
86 people killed by a truck? what year was that? how many random gun massacres have you had in the states since then?
go and look up how many random massacres occur in europe by any method then compare that to random gun massacres in the us and tell me what you find? :-X
You suck at math , 400 Million guns in the US the odds of getting shot in a mass shooting are exceedingly rare , this is indisputable. 400 fucking millions guns the U.S. and a .00001% get shot in a mass shooting and we have a " gun violence " problem? Even for a dolt like you can grasp this , wait , no you can't this is why we're here ;)
lol so you don't really have gun violence problem then?. why is the gun debate such a big thing then ? why are lawmakers looking at ways to solve the "problem" if no problem actually exists? ::) you are beyond idiotic.
The fact you think this is the only time you've been got shows how daft you are.
VA ( Vermont for fucking morons like you ;) ) has almost no gun laws , and No gun violence problems , NH ( New Hampshire for fucking idiots like you ;) ) same thing , Maine , etc I can go on.
Keep posting , I'll keep correcting ;)
as i told you already "gun laws" are not the problem per say. the number of guns in circulation is the critical issue. to solve the "non existent" gun violence nightmare you must address this issue.
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Bullshit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state
CA had more gun murders than Texas ::)
2016 Texas had 200 more deaths by firearms
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
Stats appear to include suicides
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRord
i was going on these figures which say CA has the 7th lowest gun death rate of all states
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/02/21/states-most-and-least-gun-violence-see-where-your-state-stacks-up/359395002/
i would imagine that suicide would be included in "gun violence" stats. as i'm sure having your brains blown out is pretty violent whether you or someone else does it.
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My school teacher neighbour told me a while back a lot of 8 year olds cant tell the time but know all about transgenders and that shit.
Well done liberals, you are fucking up the world.
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Lol u got owned by Conker, LMAO
PO mohammed.
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as i told you already "gun laws" are not the problem per say. the number of guns in circulation is the critical issue. to solve the "non existent" gun violence nightmare you must address this issue.
Learn how to quote you idiot :-\
exactly dimwit. it was you who made the assertion that you had to be over 18 to buy a whisker in the UK...what a ridiculous claim
I didn't assert anything stupid , I posted photographic evidence ;) You know proof. Which BTW I don't think is real it was more of a jab at the way your society is heading with the Nanny state , It's hard to tell in the UK if it's law or parody
i clarified that i meant without prescription. your little "daddy government" doesn't want fellas getting too hench or they might overthrow them
You were wrong ( as usual ) and backtracked when corrected , nothing new with you. 8)
i never said it was the rule, dummy. but we have no such restrictions ANYWHERE in the uk
Yet you brought it as if it were. It's a nonissue you're really grasping at straws when this is what you're offering up as a restriction on freedom
f you have so much freedom why can't you legally jack up steeroids? or buy alcohol in many places? while your government milks it's fat gun sales revenue it pushes this line that as long you can own a gun you have freedom and you and millions of other brainwashed zombies buy it. it's BS. having to herd kids around through metal detectors etc practice "active shooter" drills and have armed guards present at school is not freedom. it's a loss of freedom.
You can , you keep insisting you can't when that's a lie. And again double down on the alcohol thing these are exceptions NOT the rule. We're infinitely more free than you. I can type " All Muslims are scum and should be put to death " and NOT face prosecution for it. YOU on the other hand can't say anything remotely close to that online in your country :o You can't even carry a fucking knife with you ??? but hey you can legally buy steroids from FAKE professions on this site and get ripped off in the process ;)
see above. so many guns in circulation does not equal freedom. it equals a loss of freedom
You keep typing that , prove it. The " mass shootings " are relatively new and we've always had a fuck ton of guns so your point is NOT a point and guns afford you freedom , especially when they start to take away your other rights. Know history? what happens when they disarm people , you're no longer free because you have no recourse when the Government starts to oppress people. enjoy your gear while the rest of your rights & freedoms are stripped
i said these events are "routine" in the us, which is FACT. what do you call something that happens every month or so, if not routine?
86 people killed by a truck? what year was that? how many random gun massacres have you had in the states since then?
go and look up how many random massacres occur in europe by any method then compare that to random gun massacres in the us and tell me what you find
It's NOT a " fact " and in the scheme of things they account for the smallest figures in overall " gun violence " Thousands more are killed monthly with guns than ALL " mass shootings " yet you remain silent. You don't care about preventing " gun violence " because we know where the vast majority of it comes from.
And I don't care when the truck incident took place. Irrelevant. Your point is without guns this wouldn't have happened, which is a LIE. And again stupid , random massacres are RARE despite what The Guardian has told you.
lol so you don't really have gun violence problem then?. why is the gun debate such a big thing then ? why are lawmakers looking at ways to solve the "problem" if no problem actually exists? Roll Eyes you are beyond idiotic.
NO " gun violence " problem. There is a VIOLENCE problem with people using guns. More people were killed with knives than ALL rifles ( to which the AR15 is a subset of ) do we say " oh we have a knife violence problem? " if someone gets beat to death with a bat do we have a " bat violence " problem. STOP giving inanimate objects sentience. We have an ASSHOLE problem in the states , STOP blaming the tool in which people use.
And fucking moron. The " gun debate " is such a big thing people of fuck-wits like you. Who want to infringe on people's freedoms because of the actions of a fucking criminal. If I recall correctly there is like 10 million AR15s circulating in the U.S by far the most popular rifle. Yet 10 people use it to murder people and the other 9,999,990 should be punished for it??? Get the fuck outta here. It's such a big thing because of fucking MORONS like you who don't have the first iota on what you're talking about trying to dictate policy to people who do. It's a big thing because people are tired of their freedoms fucked with by assholes who offer up simplistic solutions that aren't designed to solve problems just infringe on people's rights.
as i told you already "gun laws" are not the problem per say. the number of guns in circulation is the critical issue. to solve the "non existent" gun violence nightmare you must address this issue.
No it's not because despite what you're being sold violent crime is at a 20 year old despite the FACT we own more guns than ANY other time. as usual your point is NOT a point. the vast majority of the " gun violence " is suicide by far!! it's not even close. NOT once did you ever mention this because you don't care about preventing " gun violence " because you couldn't even bother to be knowledgeable about the subject you're commenting on. You , like most others only crawl out of the woodwork after a highly publicized mass shooting to virtue signal. " Look at me , Look at me " ::) fucking pathetic. Your kind are the worse , save feigning compassion for Facebook. You're just another clueless European who thinks they know what they're talking about. I told you before you better come prepared because your ass will be handed to you with facts ;)
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I didn't assert anything stupid
quote from your earlier post "Meanwhile you're safer in NYC than in London and you need to be 18 to buy a fucking whisker"
so that's not you asserting that in london you need to be 18 to buy a "fucking whisker"
I posted photographic evidence ;)
no you didn't you posted a picture of a sticker that had been stuck on the packaging of a whisker. that's not evidence of anything other than someone stuck that sticker on that product. another poster already said they'd visited that website or whatever and that it was satire
You know proof. Which BTW I don't think is real
how is it "proof" if you accept that it's not real? do you understand the meaning of the word proof?
see all the above shows the grave levels of your retardation and why it unduly flatters your intelligence for me to enter into any form of debate with you.
you are without doubt one of the most affected mongtards on this board(which is some feat!). you keep telling yourself that the US has no problem with gun violence and that random massacres are not routine events. the grown ups know what is really going on ;)
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Still can't fucking quote? Seriously? ::)
so that's not you asserting that in london you need to be 18 to buy a "fucking whisker"
I didn't assert it alone , I posted " photographic evidence " again which I didn't believe it to be real ( even though it may be ) I posted it as a commentary on how ridiculous things are getting over there. You don't know if you're reading the onion or it's actual U.K law at times.
With headlines like this it's easy to believe the Whisker story
UK Police Threaten Facebook Users With Arrest After Tiny Drug Bust is Mocked
So much for Freedom in the U.K when they bust a guy with that small amount of weed :o ::)
no you didn't you posted a picture of a sticker that had been stuck on the packaging of a whisker. that's not evidence of anything other than someone stuck that sticker on that product. another poster already said they'd visited that website or whatever and that it was satire
Obviously ::) but the sad part , again is U.K. law seems like satire London Mayor " NO ONE needs to carry a knife " ::)
Arrests for offensive Facebook and Twitter posts soar in London
625 arrests were made for alleged section 127 offences in 2010
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/arrests-for-offensive-facebook-and-twitter-posts-soar-in-london-a7064246.html
625 fucking arrests this is a pathetic commentary on how fucked up the U.K. has become. You have no freedom , so with real stories like this it's easy to see how one could believe the whisker story.
how is it "proof" if you accept that it's not real? do you understand the meaning of the word proof?
see all the above shows the grave levels of your retardation and why it unduly flatters your intelligence for me to enter into any form of debate with you.
you are without doubt one of the most affected mongtards on this board(which is some feat!). you keep telling yourself that the US has no problem with gun violence and that random massacres are not routine events. the grown ups know what is really going on
More fluff on your behalf. I noticed you didn't dare touch any of the salient points. Your ad hominem attacks will not save you from your ignorance. Guns are NOT capable of violence , people are. and again stupid " mass shootings " aren't routine in the scheme of gun deaths http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/09/17/mass-shootings-rivet-national-attention-but-are-a-small-share-of-gun-violence/ despite the lies you've been told , we own more guns now than ever before and gun violence is at a 20 year low , so much for the narrative " more guns means more death " http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/07/18108298-gun-violence-in-us-has-fallen-dramatically-over-past-20-years-justice-dept-report-finds That BTW dummy is from the Justice Department ;)
You're a proud little man who keeps trying to post your way out of embarrassment , it's not working. Facts are NOT your friend and are NOT on your side. 8)
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it's pointless debating with you because you're too stupid to make it in any way entertaining. i did find this amusing though
"I noticed you didn't dare touch any of the salient points"
LOL there's more chance of old trumpy boy giving melania an orgasm than there is of you making a "salient point" :D
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i was going on these figures which say CA has the 7th lowest gun death rate of all states
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/02/21/states-most-and-least-gun-violence-see-where-your-state-stacks-up/359395002/
i would imagine that suicide would be included in "gun violence" stats. as i'm sure having your brains blown out is pretty violent whether you or someone else does it.
Texas, Florida and California have the most gun deaths, yet CA has the most restrictive gun laws in the country while Texas and Florida have lax gun laws.
So how do strict gun laws protect us again? Obviously gun control doesn't work or CA would have far fewer gun deaths, right?
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Texas, Florida and California have the most gun deaths, yet CA has the most restrictive gun laws in the country while Texas and Florida have lax gun laws.
So how do strict gun laws protect us again? Obviously gun control doesn't work or CA would have far fewer gun deaths, right?
not per capita they don't
and as i've said previously, you need more than stricter gun control laws. you need to take a large % of guns out of circulation, to see any significant improvement from the current crisis.
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Pope Urban II banned the crossbow in 1096 and that ban was upheld by Pope Innocent II in 1139. I suppose the current Pope, Poop Fucktard I, will desire the banning of all weapons held by law-abiding citizens, although holding on to their guns would then make them criminals and thereby exempt from all such laws. Of course some folk ignored the Poops and kept their crossbows. Imagine that...
Criminals should be banned. They should be so severely punished that they would never desire to do wrong again. Of course the term "dindu" is set to cross the pigment barrier and will soon serve all CoC (Criminals of Colour) and only Non-CoC will be punished until such time as a DNA test can prove by association with CoC "they innosense...'n' sheit".
Liberals are the finger puppets of crime.
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not per capita they don't
and as i've said previously, you need more than stricter gun control laws. you need to take a large % of guns out of circulation, to see any significant improvement from the current crisis.
Then don't look per capita. As a whole, CA gun laws are a failure and you're no safer here than in TX or FL
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it's pointless debating with you because you're too stupid to make it in any way entertaining. i did find this amusing though
"I noticed you didn't dare touch any of the salient points"
LOL there's more chance of old trumpy boy giving melania an orgasm than there is of you making a "salient point" :D
Thanks for bowing out , not the first time but you keep typing I'll keep correcting ;)
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no you're not. feeling the need to carry a gun around to feel safe is not most sane people's idea of freedom. law abiding citizens in the UK generally don't feel that need. only criminals need guns for protection.
there are certain things that are prohibited in the states that aren't in the UK, anabolic steroids being one(BB related). you have no more freedom whatsoever. alcohol is still illegal in some regions in the states! you've just bought this bs line from the nra that "freedom" boils down to owning a gun. it doesn't. having so many guns in circulation is actually curtailing your freedom.
having to fortify schools and employ armed guards and teachers is freedom? ::) #
and it was one month(feb 18) that london had a higher homicide rate than new york...and you draw from that "you are now more likely to be killed in london than new york" ? crock of sht. what about every other month in recorded history ? also i would take a guess that new york happens to be one of the safer major US cities in terms of gun violence?
why not compare capital to capital. london to washington d.c :-X
gun laws aren't the problem per say. it's ease of access. tightening gun control laws would help to some extent. but unless you start taking measures to rid society of a large number of those already in circulation, the gun violence nightmare will not go away.
btw LA isn't a state and CA has one of the lowest gun death rates of all states. ;)
2x fully agree
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You can't own a crossbow at all in Australia. I asked a guy at an archery shop for one and I thought he was going to call the police. ::)
how are the gunlaws in Australia?
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You can't own a crossbow at all in Australia. I asked a guy at an archery shop for one and I thought he was going to call the police. ::)
NT & QLD ;)
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Then don't look per capita. As a whole, CA gun laws are a failure and you're no safer here than in TX or FL
yeh and while we're at it let's just not look at anything else that defeats our argument either
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yeh and while we're at it let's just not look at anything else that defeats our argument either
Says the moron who looked the other way while his " arguments " got demolished. ::)
" Gun violence " at a 20 year low , gun ownership at it's all time highest. Oppsss so much for your theory ;)
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/07/18108298-gun-violence-in-us-has-fallen-dramatically-over-past-20-years-justice-dept-report-finds
This is a Justice Department report too :o
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yeh and while we're at it let's just not look at anything else that defeats our argument either
Ok sinve we're looking per capita, let's break it down farther and look at race. Want to?
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Ok sinve we're looking per capita, let's break it down farther and look at race. Want to?
why not. make's no difference to me. it won't change the fact that the overwhelming cause of all the gun violence problems is the number of guns in circulation and the ease of access.
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why not. make's no difference to me. it won't change the fact that the overwhelming cause of all the gun violence problems is the number of guns in circulation and the ease of access.
Actually, it's the number of idiots in circulation. Especially islime idiots. You know...if they can't get a gun they'll use a pressure cooker. If they can't get a pressure cooker, they'll use a van. If they can't get a van they'll use a vest. If they can't get a vest, they'll use a shoe. Ad nauseam...
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why not. make's no difference to me. it won't change the fact that the overwhelming cause of all the gun violence problems is the number of guns in circulation and the ease of access.
Of course facts don't matter do you , that's old news.
Idiot Gun violence is at a 20 year low and gun ownership is at at an all-time high. You're wrong , as usual.
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So you wannabee a moozie. Here's some of their no no rules you HAVE to follow:
For both genders:
Music with Instruments.
Un-Islamic decor (Statues)
Toys (anything resembling a living thing)
Drawing and Art for anything that resembles a human.
Eating pork and monkeys (because they're related to Jews)
Drinking Alcohol
Gambling
Adoption in any form
Playing dice or anything that depends on luck as it goes against Allah's predetermined fate.
Playing anything that results in winning a cash prize.
Interest in debt (only interest free is allowed)
Reading and Writing anything that goes outside the realm of Islam (no high fantasy where they pray to gods other than Allah, for example)
Poetry.
Owning pets other than Cats. (this is because one of Muhammad's friends had cats he was called Abu Hurayra , Father of kittens)
Dancing.
Non Islamic culture (Wearing jeans and t-shirts; Casual stuff)
Counter-Culture/Sub-Culture (Punk, Metal, Goth...etc)
Tattoos
Eating or washing with your left hand. This is the hand the wipe their hairy shitasses with.
Imitating Non Muslims (Plucking eyebrows and 'beautifying' self)
Working with non Muslims in restaurants, casinos, temples, banks, courts, bars, and music venues.
Befriending Non Muslims and calling them "Brothers" and "Sisters" all companionship with Non Muslims should be professional only.
Premarital relationships.
Making friends with the other gender.
Gender Equality
Talking to other genders before marriage.
Showing affection in public.
Staring or looking directly at the opposite gender.
Masturbating. Except on film for SchmoeTV.
Not praying five times a day.
Not washing self (Wu'Du) before praying or reading the quran
Homosexuality, or talking with people who are homosexual. Schmoes must be exempt.
Leaving the religion, or talking with people who left it.
Talking with people outside of the Abrahamic religions
Marrying a slave man/woman that you own.
Marrying your step sister/brother if she/he breast feed from the same mother --If she/he didn't it is okay to marry your step sister/brother--
Slaughtering an animal without saying 'Bismillah'
Stunning the Animal before slitting it's throat
Eating said animal (non halal food)
For Men:
Wearing Gold jewelry
Piercings
Marrying more than four wives. Muzzies can never get along with Fundamentalist Mormons.
Marrying your birth mother, your grandmother, your daughter, and your granddaughter. (Everyone else is okay, EX Marrying your cousin, your step mother after father died, your mother in law and your grand-grand daughter is okay)
Wearing shorts that show the knees.
Shaving body hair. And the Schmoes did weep.
Wearing perfume (they use something called Oud/Agarwood, it is incense)
Shaving beard lower than 1/2 cm.
Having a long Mustache.
For Women:
Showing hair or skin in public.
Talking louder than a man.
Talking to another man, other than husband.
Refusing sex when asked to by her husband. GetBig approved.
Going outside without the consent of her husband.
Wearing Jewelry in public.
Wearing Makeup in public.
Wearing Perfume in public.
Arguing with your husband.
Arguing with your husband's other wives.
Denying to marry a man, if you're not a widow or ex wife.
Marrying another man other than husband.
Marrying a man 6 months after breakup with ex husband.
Divorcing a man. (only he's the one who's allowed to do that)
Accuse a man of rape without 4 male witnesses or 8 female witnesses of the actual rape.
Marrying a Non Muslim man. Muzzie men can only "outside" marry from "People of the Book", i.e., Jewish and Christians.
Having body hair and imitating men
Lifting her hand against her husband --Even if he's beating her senseless--
Make wedding arrangements.
Praying with men.
Being in the company of other men.
Sitting in the living room with the husband and his friends.
Eating with the husband and his friends.
Refuse to cook food.
Work outside the house without a guardian.
Be working in a company of other men outside the house.
Leave the room without permission.
Question the husband critically.
Becoming the "woman of the house" after her husband passed away
Becoming a father-figure of a fatherless son (he becomes like her husband, he makes the rules).
There's more rules but I think this may be a TLDR for some of us here. Muzzies already know this shit. FTN. The UK needs to wake up before they're put to sleep permanently by these criminals.
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"England's a fa g country. The whole society is based on a kind of a fagdom."
- Archie Bunker
slightly longer even more funny clip where he goes deeper on a gay dude
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yeh and while we're at it let's just not look at anything else that defeats our argument either
Now you like per capita arguments, lol.
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Knives are too sharp and filing them down is solution to soaring violent crime, judge says:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/27/knives-sharp-filing-solution-soaring-violent-crime-judge-says/
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Knives are too sharp and filing them down is solution to soaring violent crime, judge says:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/27/knives-sharp-filing-solution-soaring-violent-crime-judge-says/
LMFAO ;D
what about that superior freedom you have Conker?
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Who has the facepalming pic?
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(https://scontent.flas1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31289186_601229226920696_4171701640115519488_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=536ff90a563591e842d8db2189034e04&oe=5BB738EB)
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Knives are too sharp and filing them down is solution to soaring violent crime, judge says:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/27/knives-sharp-filing-solution-soaring-violent-crime-judge-says/
He'd be an expert on the Anti-Dentistry Panel.
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so we have a problem with rising knife murders, mainly being committed by teengers who get the knives from their parents' kitchen drawers. bear in mind even with this current problem the UK still has a murder rate the US would kill for (excuse the pun).
so lawmakers etc are looking for ways to reduce the problem. that's what happens in advanced societies. in the US what you do is bury your heads in the sand. either pretend the problem doesn't really exist or say the problem is just impossible to solve and nothing gets done
this judge should be applauded for thinking outside the box and perhaps what he's saying is not as silly as it sounds. how many times do you actually use the point of a knife rather than the sharp edge in a kitchen setting? anyway regardless of the merits of his suggestion at least we have actually identified that we have a problem and are looking at possible solutions.
you yanks can scoff. but then again you're the idiots that are routinely seeing kids randomly massacred in your schools...we're not.
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so we have a problem with rising knife murders, mainly being committed by teengers who get the knives from their parents' kitchen drawers. bear in mind even with this current problem the UK still has a murder rate the US would kill for (excuse the pun).
so lawmakers etc are looking for ways to reduce the problem. that's what happens in advanced societies. in the US what you do is bury your heads in the sand. either pretend the problem doesn't really exist or say the problem is just impossible to solve and nothing gets done
this judge should be applauded for thinking outside the box and perhaps what he's saying is not as silly as it sounds. how many times do you actually use the point of a knife rather than the sharp edge in a kitchen setting? anyway regardless of the merits of his suggestion at least we have actually identified that we have a problem and are looking at possible solutions.
you yanks can scoff. but then again you're the idiots that are routinely seeing kids randomly massacred in your schools...we're not.
People can also make sharp objects themselves...from wood, glass, pieces of steel, tin, even plastic.
Will they also ban screwdrivers, because those can go right through the ribs and into a lung.
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People can also make sharp objects themselves...from wood, glass, pieces of steel, tin, even plastic.
Will they also ban screwdrivers, because those can go right through the ribs and into a lung.
the judge wasn't talking about banning knives. he was suggesting rounding off the end point.
yes you can also break a bottle that makes a great weapon for stabbing someone. as i said my point wasn't really regarding the merits of the idea, more that it shows we have admitted there's a problem and are looking at ways to alleviate it. surely that's better than the US approach of burying your head in the and denying there is any any problem
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the judge wasn't talking about banning knives. he was suggesting rounding off the end point.
yes you can also break a bottle that makes a great weapon for stabbing someone. as i said my point wasn't really regarding the merits of the idea, more that it shows we have admitted there's a problem and are looking at ways to alleviate it. surely that's better than the US approach of burying your head in the and denying there is any any problem
the judge wasn't talking about banning knives. he was suggesting rounding off the end point.
Which is ludicrous to the point of being offensive
yes you can also break a bottle that makes a great weapon for stabbing someone. as i said my point wasn't really regarding the merits of the idea, more that it shows we have admitted there's a problem and are looking at ways to alleviate it. surely that's better than the US approach of burying your head in the and denying there is any any problem
And their ways to alleviate it are laughable and pathetic
And who in the US is denying there is a problem? Some politicians want to ban guns and others realize you can't legislate your way out of the problem. Guns aren't the problem , assholes using guns to murder others are and punishing people who had nothing to do with it isn't the solution.
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Which is ludicrous to the point of being offensive
And their ways to alleviate it are laughable and pathetic
And who in the US is denying there is a problem? Some politicians want to ban guns and others realize you can't legislate your way out of the problem. Guns aren't the problem , assholes using guns to murder others are and punishing people who had nothing to do with it isn't the solution.
i'd say 17 school kids blown to pieces one month, 10 the next, and 70 odd massacred in vegas a few months ago is slightly more offensive!
and you just highlighted the exact two things i mentioned.
1) there is no "gun problem"
2) there is no way to solve it (even though it doesn't really exist!)
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i'd say 17 school kids blown to pieces one month, 10 the next, and 70 odd massacred in vegas a few months ago is slightly more offensive!
and you just highlighted the exact two things i mentioned.
1) there is no "gun problem"
2) there is no way to solve it (even though it doesn't really exist!)
i'd say 17 school kids blown to pieces one month, 10 the next, and 70 odd massacred in vegas a few months ago is slightly more offensive!
I would agree , however both of the solutions are equally laughable
and you just highlighted the exact two things i mentioned.
1) there is no "gun problem"
2) there is no way to solve it (even though it doesn't really exist!)
No gun violence problem. We have a violence problem with the use of guns
We can't legislate crazy , their " solutions " are NOT solutions , their intentions may be good , however the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
There are more fucking guns in this country than people , Fathom that if you can. If there were truly a " gun violence ' problem , it would be millions dead year-in-year-out.
The vast majority of " gun violence " is suicides 33K in fact and thank heavens these people only want to hurt themselves.
Mass-shootings are very rare , despite what you're being told.
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maybe rare in terms of how many people they affect but anything but rare in frequency. no one gives a sht about the overall gun crime epidemic. but the mass random massacres are really damaging to the national psyche. a couple really bad ones, maybe another sandy hook and i could see a tipping point being reached.
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i'd say 17 school kids blown to pieces one month, 10 the next, and 70 odd massacred in vegas a few months ago is slightly more offensive!
and you just highlighted the exact two things i mentioned.
1) there is no "gun problem"
2) there is no way to solve it (even though it doesn't really exist!)
80+ with a van in France.
Ban vans!!
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i'd say 17 school kids blown to pieces one month, 10 the next, and 70 odd massacred in vegas a few months ago is slightly more offensive!
and you just highlighted the exact two things i mentioned.
1) there is no "gun problem"
2) there is no way to solve it (even though it doesn't really exist!)
PAKI, talk about muslim terrorism & crime in Europe.
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80+ with a van in France.
Ban vans!!
Ban islam & mentally sick muslim ideology ;)
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PAKI, talk about muslim terrorism & crime in Europe.
you do realise i am of absolutely zero asian heritage? even your racism is devoid of any coherence. :D
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you do realise i am of absolutely zero asian heritage? even your racism is devoid of any coherence. :D
post image of 'prophet' mohammed to confirm that ;D
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maybe rare in terms of how many people they affect but anything but rare in frequency. no one gives a sht about the overall gun crime epidemic. but the mass random massacres are really damaging to the national psyche. a couple really bad ones, maybe another sandy hook and i could see a tipping point being reached.
Thank you for admitting the obvious , facts don't matter , just emotion. And I agree no one gives a shit about the overall gun crime epidemic which proves the point you're ALL fucking hypocrites for pretending like you do care.
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Thank you for admitting the obvious , facts don't matter , just emotion. And I agree no one gives a shit about the overall gun crime epidemic which proves the point you're ALL fucking hypocrites for pretending like you do care.
I'm no hypocrite as I don't care - I'm safe(ish) in my gated little community, the rest of the world can fend for itself...
But what I do care about is can these f**king things shoot a quarter of a mile?? Surely one of you nutcases owns one of these things? I smell a new hobby... :)
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Can this be right?!?
"The terrifying weapon, bought in Leeds, is capable of hitting a target with its aluminium-pointed bolts at 500 yards"
It's made me want to buy one... :P
(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/Crossbow-for-sale-uk-high-street-959322.jpg)
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I'm no hypocrite as I don't care - I'm safe(ish) in my gated little community, the rest of the world can fend for itself...
But what I do care about is can these f**king things shoot a quarter of a mile?? Surely one of you nutcases owns one of these things? I smell a new hobby... :)
No chance, Taff. The only way you would hit anything at that distance would be with a Mortar Fire Controller to direct its flight path down onto a sunbathing Shizzo.
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I've wanted to build a trebuchet for the longest time. I wonder if I'll get arrested.
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I've wanted to build a trebuchet for the longest time. I wonder if I'll get arrested.
Go watch "Kingdom of Heaven". Those babies are featured in some of the battle scenes.
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Thank you for admitting the obvious , facts don't matter , just emotion. And I agree no one gives a shit about the overall gun crime epidemic which proves the point you're ALL fucking hypocrites for pretending like you do care.
you've gone back to attacking straw men again. i'm not "admitting" anything, my position has not changed. just because random massacres only directly affect a small number of people(relatively speaking), doesn't mean it's not a problem.
the US makes up something like 5% of the world's population yet over 30% off all mass shootings happen there. why is that?
and why am i a hypocrite ? none if it this impacts me in any way as i live in another country. i just find it mind boggling that not any is attempt to reduce the problem, no matter what happens.
half the country refuse to admit there's any problem. the other half don't have the balls to exert any pressure to get things changed
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you've gone back to attacking straw men again. i'm not "admitting" anything, my position has not changed. just because random massacres only directly affect a small number of people(relatively speaking), doesn't mean it's not a problem.
the US makes up something like 5% of the world's population yet over 30% off all mass shootings happen there. why is that?
and why am i a hypocrite ? none if it this impacts me in any way as i live in another country. i just find it mind boggling that not any is attempt to reduce the problem, no matter what happens.
half the country refuse to admit there's any problem. the other half don't have the balls to exert any pressure to get things changed
If you live in another country, you've probably got more than enough problems of your own. Unless, that is, you're the problem. Islime is a protected feces, don'tcha know...
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you've gone back to attacking straw men again. i'm not "admitting" anything, my position has not changed. just because random massacres only directly affect a small number of people(relatively speaking), doesn't mean it's not a problem.
the US makes up something like 5% of the world's population yet over 30% off all mass shootings happen there. why is that?
and why am i a hypocrite ? none if it this impacts me in any way as i live in another country. i just find it mind boggling that not any is attempt to reduce the problem, no matter what happens.
half the country refuse to admit there's any problem. the other half don't have the balls to exert any pressure to get things changed
you've gone back to attacking straw men again. i'm not "admitting" anything, my position has not changed. just because random massacres only directly affect a small number of people(relatively speaking), doesn't mean it's not a problem.
Go learn what a strawman fallacy is. Who said they weren't a problem? ??? I'll wait for you for to find that post. In the scheme of things mass shootings are very rare
the US makes up something like 5% of the world's population yet over 30% off all mass shootings happen there. why is that?
and why am i a hypocrite ? none if it this impacts me in any way as i live in another country. i just find it mind boggling that not any is attempt to reduce the problem, no matter what happens.
That's for providing the proof ::) And you're a hypocrite because you don't give one fucking iota about ANY shooting victims , if you did you'd at least know what the fuck you're talking about which you don't.
And you just type inane shit like " i just find it mind boggling that not any is attempt to reduce the problem, no matter what happens. " there have been plenty attempts and all have failed for a reason. Again you just type shit and don't do any of the research on what you're talking about. You think posting the odd link here from anti-gun websites means you know what you're talking about , you don't. You don't know how many laws have been passed that have promised to stop this nonsense yet it continues , gee I wonder why ::)
" gun-free school zones "
" magazine capacity limits "
" assault weapons bans "
" restraining orders "
" 1 gun a month limits "
" bump-stick bans "
" ammunition limits "
" gun buy-backs "
" no fly list "
" safe storage "
" bans for under 21 "
I could go on-and-on of all the things moronic politicians have promised that would curb gun violence and it's ALL failed and you don't know because you're fucking ignorant. I actually enjoy when you reply because I take pleasure in exposing your stupidity , keep posting moron. ;)
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No chance, Taff. The only way you would hit anything at that distance would be with a Mortar Fire Controller to direct its flight path down onto a sunbathing Shizzo.
Thank you...
(just switching to the Dark Web to purchase a Mortar Fire Controller - just in case... ;))
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"Go learn what a strawman fallacy is."
you said "thanks for admitting the obvious" as if i'd previously been denying something or had changed my position. i hadn't and i hadn't.
and when did say i "care" about shooting victims. i have said before none of it impacts me. i just find the situation very strange and therefore interesting.
well i do care in a passing way, as it is sad to see people (even strangers) killed unnecessarily wherever it is in the world.
and no mention of a gun amnesty to reduce the guns in circulation?
proves my point. no one has the balls to even suggest anything that would have a meaningful impact.
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"Go learn what a strawman fallacy is."
you said "thanks for admitting the obvious" as if i'd previously been denying something or had changed my position. i hadn't and i hadn't.
and when did say i "care" about shooting victims. i have said before none of it impacts me. i just find the situation very strange and therefore interesting.
well i do care in a passing way, as it is sad to see people (even strangers) killed unnecessarily wherever it is in the world.
and no mention of a gun amnesty to reduce the guns in circulation?
proves my point. no one has the balls to even suggest anything that would have a meaningful impact.
you said "thanks for admitting the obvious" as if i'd previously been denying something or had changed my position. i hadn't and i hadn't.
Not a strawman go back to the drawing board
and when did say i "care" about shooting victims. i have said before none of it impacts me. i just find the situation very strange and therefore interesting.
We know you don't care , yet you're offering up solutions to a problem you don't know about or care about in a country you don't live in ::)
well i do care in a passing way, as it is sad to see people (even strangers) killed unnecessarily wherever it is in the world.
Make up your mind hypocrite. Of course it's sad to see people killed unnecessarily yet you back nonsolutions so you can virtue signal and feign caring. You're in every mass shooting thread " see , see I told you " ::) yet you don't care , yet you do care ::) You're another brainless moron whose been told they should care. 33K die every single year from suicides by guns INSANELY higher than ALL mass shootings combined , how many threads have you started about preventing suicides? how many times have you mentioned the vast majority of victims of gun violence? NONE because you're fucking ignorant to even know what you're talking about.
and no mention of a gun amnesty to reduce the guns in circulation
LMFAO more guns than people in this country and this is your solution? that sounds plausible?
proves my point. no one has the balls to even suggest anything that would have a meaningful impact.
You have NO point because you don't know what you're talking about STUPID. It's been proposed many times by the left guns should be confiscated and the 2A needs to be abolished. I've showed you this many times. And this " meaningful impact " just creates more gun violence , so right back to square one. You want to take peoples guns you're going to need people with guns to take them and lets say half turn them in willy-nilly the other half wont and " Come and take them " starts Civil War part Deux
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Not a strawman go back to the drawing board
We know you don't care , yet you're offering up solutions to a problem you don't know about or care about in a country you don't live in ::)
People who do this invariably hate the country which they are advising, and the advice they offer is always suicidal.
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People who do this invariably hate the country which they are advising, and the advice they offer is always suicidal.
yes. several studies confirm this :D
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Not a strawman go back to the drawing board
We know you don't care , yet you're offering up solutions to a problem you don't know about or care about in a country you don't live in ::)
Make up your mind hypocrite. Of course it's sad to see people killed unnecessarily yet you back nonsolutions so you can virtue signal and feign caring. You're in every mass shooting thread " see , see I told you " ::) yet you don't care , yet you do care ::) You're another brainless moron whose been told they should care. 33K die every single year from suicides by guns INSANELY higher than ALL mass shootings combined , how many threads have you started about preventing suicides? how many times have you mentioned the vast majority of victims of gun violence? NONE because you're fucking ignorant to even know what you're talking about.
LMFAO more guns than people in this country and this is your solution? that sounds plausible?
You have NO point because you don't know what you're talking about STUPID. It's been proposed many times by the left guns should be confiscated and the 2A needs to be abolished. I've showed you this many times. And this " meaningful impact " just creates more gun violence , so right back to square one. You want to take peoples guns you're going to need people with guns to take them and lets say half turn them in willy-nilly the other half wont and " Come and take them " starts Civil War part Deux
if you don't give up your gun as requested by law you become a criminal and can be arrested or fined. does the arrest of most people that own a gun currently end in a shoot out?
in australia 650,000 guns were handed in and i never heard about any mass bloodshed. at the end of the day you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.
what's a better option sit on your hands and just hope the problem will go away. it won't
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if you don't give up you're gun as requested by law you become a criminal and can be arrested or fined. does the arrest of most people that own a gun currently end in a shoot out?
in australia 650,000 guns were handed in and i never heard about any mass bloodshed. at the end of the day you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.
what's a better option sit on your hands and just hope the problem will go away. it won't
In the U.S.A. violent crime has declined a great amount over the last 20 or so years..so has gun crime. So what is the problem? If gun crime has dropped precipitously and flatlined over the last 2 decades why do we need to confiscate firearms, strip citizens of their rights and turn law abiding citizens into criminals?
School shootings are still a rare occurrence. In fact, firearms (in one form or another) have been around for a long, long, long time in the U.S. while these school shootings have been recent in nature. Guns didn't cause these students to go nuts and shoot the schools up....so what has changed over the years?
Thinking about the above question may lead to an actual solution to the problem.
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In the U.S.A. violent crime has declined a great amount over the last 20 or so years..so has gun crime. So what is the problem? If gun crime has dropped precipitously and flatlined over the last 2 decades why do we need to confiscate firearms, strip citizens of their rights and turn law abiding citizens into criminals?
School shootings are still a rare occurrence. In fact, firearms (in one form or another) have been around for a long, long, long time in the U.S. while these school shootings have been recent in nature. Guns didn't cause these students to go nuts and shoot the schools up....so what has changed over the years?
Thinking about the above question may lead to an actual solution to the problem.
obviously if you don't accept there is any problem you're not going to think any solution is necessary. but i know there's a hell of lot of people in the US that do think there's a big problem.
if i lived in a country that had 30% of worldwide mass shootings while only 5% of the population and massively higher gun crime and murder rates than any other country in the developed world, i'd think there was a problem.
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obviously if you don't accept there is any problem you're not going to think any solution is necessary. but i know there's a hell of lot of people in the US that do think there's a big problem.
if i lived in a country that had 30% of worldwide mass shootings while only 5% of the population and massively higher gun crime and murder rates than any other country in the developed world, i'd think there was a problem.
Wow & Wow, never ending negativity about Western countries.
Tell us about "love & peace" in muslim world ?.
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if you don't give up your gun as requested by law you become a criminal and can be arrested or fined. does the arrest of most people that own a gun currently end in a shoot out?
in australia 650,000 guns were handed in and i never heard about any mass bloodshed. at the end of the day you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.
if you don't give up your gun as requested by law you become a criminal and can be arrested or fined. does the arrest of most people that own a gun currently end in a shoot out?
Think about what you just typed. 100 Million gun owners , you have the space to jail even a 1/3rd of them? And the 2A is exactly for these types of situations. A tyrannical Government oppressing it's people because one of the key factors you ignore habitually is the fact that guns save lives as well as take them and in much greater numbers as well.
in australia 650,000 guns were handed in and i never heard about any mass bloodshed. at the end of the day you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.
Just because the Aussies went willingly doesn't mean Americans will. Entertaining if 2/3rd of them did hand them over 30 million don't , think about that for a moment , no really , think about that.....
what's a better option sit on your hands and just hope the problem will go away. it won't
All the options they've tried have failed already , you think anymore additional laws will solve it? The nature of mass shootings are you CANNOT stop them , only minimize them. The element of surprise is half the battle and not having ANY resistance is the other , someone hell bent of causing havoc will do so with guns , with pressure cookers , with trucks , if you have a solution that can prevent future crimes please share it but keep it based in reality
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Wow & Wow, never ending negativity about Western countries.
Tell us about "love & peace" in muslim world ?.
Those people are “Oppressed” and as a result should be held to no standards.😉
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if you don't give up your gun as requested by law you become a criminal and can be arrested or fined. does the arrest of most people that own a gun currently end in a shoot out?
in australia 650,000 guns were handed in and i never heard about any mass bloodshed. at the end of the day you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.
what's a better option sit on your hands and just hope the problem will go away. it won't
They estimate that 650,000 was about 1/3 of Asstralias guns, in the US 1/3 would be roughly 100,000,000. That would still leave over 200 million guns floating around the country. I'm sure the criminals would be part of the 100 million to turn theirs in. ::)
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They estimate that 650,000 was about 1/3 of Asstralias guns, in the US 1/3 would be roughly 100,000,000. That would still leave over 200 million guns floating around the country. I'm sure the criminals would be part of the 100 million to turn theirs in. ::)
Just count on the State to "protect" you, right?
Just after they get done disarming you and stripping you of your ability to properly defend yourself.
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They estimate that 650,000 was about 1/3 of Asstralias guns, in the US 1/3 would be roughly 100,000,000. That would still leave over 200 million guns floating around the country. I'm sure the criminals would be part of the 100 million to turn theirs in. ::)
Exactly.
Criminals will always have guns and weapons. Which are mostly obtained illegally anyway.
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Exactly.
Criminals will always have guns and weapons. Which are mostly obtained illegally anyway.
all guns start off legal. they just end up filtering down into criminal hands. if there are less legal guns to start with, as a result there will be less criminals with guns. there are working models of this all over the first world.
and this fallacy that if you give up your guns you will suddenly be overrun by gun toting criminals looking for soft targets, is nonsense. i constantly see on here people saying gun crime is primarily a black problem. well if you look at a lot of the black murder hot spots a lot of them are in states with pretty low overall gun ownership.
so why then do poor blacks currently not tend to victimize the wider community of soft targets. instead they overwhelmingly target other poor blacks that they know for certain will own guns themselves ?
Think about what you just typed. 100 Million gun owners , you have the space to jail even a 1/3rd of them? And the 2A is exactly for these types of situations. A tyrannical Government oppressing it's people because one of the key factors you ignore habitually is the fact that guns save lives as well as take them and in much greater numbers as well.
Just because the Aussies went willingly doesn't mean Americans will. Entertaining if 2/3rd of them did hand them over 30 million don't , think about that for a moment , no really , think about that.....
All the options they've tried have failed already , you think anymore additional laws will solve it? The nature of mass shootings are you CANNOT stop them , only minimize them. The element of surprise is half the battle and not having ANY resistance is the other , someone hell bent of causing havoc will do so with guns , with pressure cookers , with trucks , if you have a solution that can prevent future crimes please share it but keep it based in reality
well you can hugely minimise the risk of mass shootings if you make it much harder for people to access guns. again there are tons of working models of this worldwide.
and all this "if we ban guns they'll just use a truck or a pressure cooker blah blah blah" holds no water either. guns are more efficient and more convenient for killing people than pretty much any other instrument. if they weren't you wouldn't all be saying you need your guns for protection. you'd get a truck or pressure cooker instead.
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something else i read that amazed me. apparently 60% of all guns traced from crime scenes come from 1% of gun dealers. yet there are federal laws that protect these dealers and make it illegal for them to be publicly identified. doesn't sound like the actions of an establishment that cares about solving the gun crime issue.
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all guns start off legal. they just end up filtering down into criminal hands. if there are less legal guns to start with, as a result there will be less criminals with guns. there are working models of this all over the first world.
and this fallacy that if you give up your guns you will suddenly be overrun by gun toting criminals looking for soft targets, is nonsense. i constantly see on here people saying gun crime is primarily a black problem. well if you look at a lot of the black murder hot spots a lot of them are in states with pretty low overall gun ownership.
so why then do poor blacks currently not tend to victimize the wider community of soft targets. instead they overwhelmingly target other poor blacks that they know for certain will own guns themselves ?
well you can hugely minimise the risk of mass shootings if you make it much harder for people to access guns. again there are tons of working models of this worldwide.
and all this "if we ban guns they'll just use a truck or a pressure cooker blah blah blah" holds no water either. guns are more efficient and more convenient for killing people than pretty much any other instrument. if they weren't you wouldn't all be saying you need your guns for protection. you'd get a truck or pressure cooker instead.
all guns start off legal. they just end up filtering down into criminal hands. if there are less legal guns to start with, as a result there will be less criminals with guns. there are working models of this all over the first world.
If my Aunt had balls she's be my Uncle. Jackass it's to fucking late to play the " if there are less legal guns " 400 Million firearms already floating around. So your " working model " doesn't and wouldn't apply. U.S is unique in this regard and can't be compared to the rest of the first world. Most criminals get their guns illegally , theft , straw purchases , etc
and this fallacy that if you give up your guns you will suddenly be overrun by gun toting criminals looking for soft targets, is nonsense. i constantly see on here people saying gun crime is primarily a black problem. well if you look at a lot of the black murder hot spots a lot of them are in states with pretty low overall gun ownership.
What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. Despite your ignorance guns save lives period , end of sentence. You take guns from legal people you create a new class of victims. This is not debatable even anti-gun sources are forced to admit this.
See this is where you go afoul , You're playing with words. " pretty low overall gun ownership " LEGAL gun ownership!!!! Most states where they have oppressive gun laws , also have the highest homicides with guns , Chicago , Baltimore , LA ( Louisiana ;) ) Detroit , etc
We have an issue with to many drunk drivers killing people the solution is less cars , less drunk driving issues , you giving up your car? We have an issue with to many drunk drivers killing people the solution is less alcohol , you giving up your alcohol? Yeah I thought so.
so why then do poor blacks currently not tend to victimize the wider community of soft targets. instead they overwhelmingly target other poor blacks that they know for certain will own guns themselves ?
Most of the black-on-black gun violence is gang related most of the homicides in overall gun stats is gang related in certain pockets of America.
well you can hugely minimise the risk of mass shootings if you make it much harder for people to access guns. again there are tons of working models of this worldwide.
This is such a meaningless statement. How the fuck to you make it harder for people to access guns when there is 400-fucking-million of them already? You offer up no solutions , no proof , just some throw away statement.
well you can hugely minimise the risk of drunk driving deaths if you make it much harder for people to access cars & alcohol.
See how that works? Almost silly to punish you for the actions of drunk drivers isn't it?
and all this "if we ban guns they'll just use a truck or a pressure cooker blah blah blah" holds no water either. guns are more efficient and more convenient for killing people than pretty much any other instrument. if they weren't you wouldn't all be saying you need your guns for protection. you'd get a truck or pressure cooker instead.
It holds no water? LMFAO to a simpleton like you it doesn't. Guns are a force multiplier , a woman who is 5'0" 100lbs can defend herself against a guy 6'0" 200lbs ! Guns can save lives and take them and that's all contingent on the person using them. Show me one single fucking person that killed 82 people with a gun, I dare you. I can show you a guy with a truck who did that ;) No access to guns yet somehow he managed to kill so many people. 168 people with a van full of fertilizer , please show me where a single " mass shooter " killed that many people . I'll be waiting ;) Oh wait 3000 with some planes , want to continue?
Anything you type holds no water , your " arguments " are sophomorish , ignorant and laced with emotion and virtue signalling. You're irrational and not very well thought out. You claim you don't care , then you do care and you go on tirades on how to fix problems in a country you don't live in and never even had the wherewithal to brush up on the subject you're trying so hard to seem topical in. You're just fucking stupid. There is no kind way to put it.
Keep posting I enjoy highlighting your stupidity ;)
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something else i read that amazed me. apparently 60% of all guns traced from crime scenes come from 1% of gun dealers. yet there are federal laws that protect these dealers and make it illegal for them to be publicly identified. doesn't sound like the actions of an establishment that cares about solving the gun crime issue.
Consider the sources you're getting your information , confirmation bias much? Guns may start out legal. And this turns into semantics games. a " crime scene " can mean a legal gun owner defended himself. It could mean a policeman shot a criminal , a mass shooter stole his parents guns , a straw purchaser , suicides which account for the vast majority of gun crime in the U.S. ;)
Most guns are either stolen or bought through straw purchases which BTW are ILLEGAL please tell me how another law punishing me will prevent this? See I can tell by your random Google searches of anti-gun propaganda that you're confirming your own bias using their bullshit to form " your " opinion. But carry on I will continue to expose how little you know and them. 8)
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all guns start off legal. they just end up filtering down into criminal hands. if there are less legal guns to start with, as a result there will be less criminals with guns. there are working models of this all over the first world.
and this fallacy that if you give up your guns you will suddenly be overrun by gun toting criminals looking for soft targets, is nonsense. i constantly see on here people saying gun crime is primarily a black problem. well if you look at a lot of the black murder hot spots a lot of them are in states with pretty low overall gun ownership.
so why then do poor blacks currently not tend to victimize the wider community of soft targets. instead they overwhelmingly target other poor blacks that they know for certain will own guns themselves ?
well you can hugely minimise the risk of mass shootings if you make it much harder for people to access guns. again there are tons of working models of this worldwide.
and all this "if we ban guns they'll just use a truck or a pressure cooker blah blah blah" holds no water either. guns are more efficient and more convenient for killing people than pretty much any other instrument. if they weren't you wouldn't all be saying you need your guns for protection. you'd get a truck or pressure cooker instead.
Well, I'm from South Africa, so what you said has no bearing on reality at all. It's extremely difficult to legally buy a weapon...but gun murder and gun robberies and car hijacks occurs daily. More guns come in from across the border. And yes 'gun toting criminals' looks for soft targets on a daily basis. And yes, poor blacks do tend to 'victimise the entire community' of innocent people who they rob, torture, rape and/or murder.
And not just SA, every country has borders and many have coastlines. Criminal cartels make money by smuggling weapons, by sea or land.
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If my Aunt had balls she's be my Uncle. Jackass it's to fucking late to play the " if there are less legal guns " 400 Million firearms already floating around. So your " working model " doesn't and wouldn't apply. U.S is unique in this regard and can't be compared to the rest of the first world. Most criminals get their guns illegally , theft , straw purchases , etc
What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. Despite your ignorance guns save lives period , end of sentence. You take guns from legal people you create a new class of victims. This is not debatable even anti-gun sources are forced to admit this.
See this is where you go afoul , You're playing with words. " pretty low overall gun ownership " LEGAL gun ownership!!!! Most states where they have oppressive gun laws , also have the highest homicides with guns , Chicago , Baltimore , LA ( Louisiana ;) ) Detroit , etc
We have an issue with to many drunk drivers killing people the solution is less cars , less drunk driving issues , you giving up your car? We have an issue with to many drunk drivers killing people the solution is less alcohol , you giving up your alcohol? Yeah I thought so.
Most of the black-on-black gun violence is gang related most of the homicides in overall gun stats is gang related in certain pockets of America.
This is such a meaningless statement. How the fuck to you make it harder for people to access guns when there is 400-fucking-million of them already? You offer up no solutions , no proof , just some throw away statement.
well you can hugely minimise the risk of drunk driving deaths if you make it much harder for people to access cars & alcohol.
See how that works? Almost silly to punish you for the actions of drunk drivers isn't it?
It holds no water? LMFAO to a simpleton like you it doesn't. Guns are a force multiplier , a woman who is 5'0" 100lbs can defend herself against a guy 6'0" 200lbs ! Guns can save lives and take them and that's all contingent on the person using them. Show me one single fucking person that killed 82 people with a gun, I dare you. I can show you a guy with a truck who did that ;) No access to guns yet somehow he managed to kill so many people. 168 people with a van full of fertilizer , please show me where a single " mass shooter " killed that many people . I'll be waiting ;) Oh wait 3000 with some planes , want to continue?
Anything you type holds no water , your " arguments " are sophomorish , ignorant and laced with emotion and virtue signalling. You're irrational and not very well thought out. You claim you don't care , then you do care and you go on tirades on how to fix problems in a country you don't live in and never even had the wherewithal to brush up on the subject you're trying so hard to seem topical in. You're just fucking stupid. There is no kind way to put it.
Keep posting I enjoy highlighting your stupidity ;)
no it's not too late. you can take a lot of the guns out of circulation with gun amnesties and making gun ownership illegal. has been done successfully in australia. another working model ;)
exactly my point, baltimore, chicago, detroit, murder hot spots, disproportionately black on black with illegal gun owners committing most of the murders, right?
would i also be right in assuming a large % of the victims will also likely have been illegal gun owners?
so if not owning a gun automatically makes you such an attractive target.... why are these criminals in murder hot spots targeting other gun owning criminals instead of the softer non gun owning targets?....when they're all in states with overall low gun ownership, where it would be very easy to find softer targets.
working models right there for you in your own country!
as i said if trucks are so much better for killing people why bother with a gun for protection? just use your truck. go and check out the stats for massacres committed by vehicle compared to massacres committed by gun....tell me what you find? why do the gang bangers bother with guns instead of just renting trucks?
it doesn't matter how you chop this up. you are always going to be on the wrong side of this argument. having so many guns in your society is not enhancing it, it is a burden on it.
go look at the rest of the developed (working models) for proof ;)
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Well, I'm from South Africa, so what you said has no bearing on reality at all. It's extremely difficult to legally buy a weapon...but gun murder and gun robberies and car hijacks occurs daily. More guns come in from across the border. And yes 'gun toting criminals' looks for soft targets on a daily basis. And yes, poor blacks do tend to 'victimise the entire community' of innocent people who they rob, torture, rape and/or murder.
And not just SA, every country has borders and many have coastlines. Criminal cartels make money by smuggling weapons, by sea or land.
you're comparing apples with oranges. SA is a 3rd world country the US is a developed country. in the US non gun owners are statistically less likely to be violently killed than gun owners.
if the white population in SA hadn't treat the native population so badly maybe they wouldn't be so enthusiastic about victimising you now. tbh considering the horror of the apartheid era the native population as a whole should be applauded for how well they generally treat the whites now.
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you're comparing apples with oranges. SA is a 3rd world country the US is a developed country. in the US non gun owners are statistically less likely to be violently killed than gun owners.
if the white population in SA hadn't treat the native population so badly maybe they wouldn't be so enthusiastic about victimising you now. tbh considering the horror of the apartheid regime the native population as a whole should be applauded for how well they generally treat the whites now.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Mark Twain
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you're comparing apples with oranges. SA is a 3rd world country the US is a developed country. in the US non gun owners are statistically less likely to be violently killed than gun owners.
if the white population in SA hadn't treat the native population so badly maybe they wouldn't be so enthusiastic about victimising you now. tbh considering the horror of the apartheid regime the native population as a whole should be applauded for how well they generally treat the whites now.
So given your words, it would appear that to you it's okie dokie for black folk to kill white folk because of past mistreatment? "Applauded for how well they generally treat the whites now"... Nigerian, puhleeeeze…
The problem with a blanket statement such as you (and others of a libtardian mindset) make is that such blankets are used to cover up and ultimately smother the truth.
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So given your words, it would appear that to you it's okie dokie for black folk to kill white folk because of past mistreatment? "Applauded for how well they generally treat the whites now"... Nigerian, puhleeeeze…
The problem with a blanket statement such as you (and others of a libtardian mindset) make is that such blankets are used to cover up and ultimately smother the truth.
hence the words "as a whole" and "generally". put it this way the blacks in general are treating the whites better than the other way around during apartheid days.
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no it's not too late. you can take a lot of the guns out of circulation with gun amnesties and making gun ownership illegal. has been done successfully in australia. another working model ;)
exactly my point, baltimore, chicago, detroit, murder hot spots, disproportionately black on black with illegal gun owners committing most of the murders, right?
would i also be right in assuming a large % of the victims will also likely have been illegal gun owners?
so if not owning a gun automatically makes you such an attractive target.... why are these criminals in murder hot spots targeting other gun owning criminals instead of the softer non gun owning targets?....when they're all in states with overall low gun ownership, where it would be very easy to find softer targets.
working models right there for you in your own country!
as i said if trucks are so much better for killing people why bother with a gun for protection? just use your truck. go and check out the stats for massacres committed by vehicle compared to massacres committed by gun....tell me what you find? why do the gang bangers bother with guns instead of just renting trucks?
it doesn't matter how you chop this up. you are always going to be on the wrong side of this argument. having so many guns in your society is not enhancing it, it is a burden on it.
go look at the rest of the developed (working models) for proof ;)
no it's not too late. you can take a lot of the guns out of circulation with gun amnesties and making gun ownership illegal. has been done successfully in australia. another working model ;)
No you can't , you obviously cannot grasp the amount of guns, typical of you not being able to grasp things. Please with Australia , America is not comparable to any other country in terms of firearms & population. Maybe 50% will give up their guns the rest wont calamity ensues, congrats you've accomplished nothing.
exactly my point, baltimore, chicago, detroit, murder hot spots, disproportionately black on black with illegal gun owners committing most of the murders, right?
would i also be right in assuming a large % of the victims will also likely have been illegal gun owners?
Sure , the point you're missing is they're still getting guns despite the draconian gun laws. How can this be? They can't legally get firearms yet somehow have the highest rates of gun violence. Prohibition doesn't work , and never has.
so if not owning a gun automatically makes you such an attractive target.... why are these criminals in murder hot spots targeting other gun owning criminals instead of the softer non gun owning targets?....when they're all in states with overall low gun ownership, where it would be very easy to find softer targets.
Yeah because NO innocents get caught in crossfire ::) Most black-on-black homicides are gang related so they tend to shoot each other but plenty of non-gang members get shot in the process. Chicago has some of the most oppressive gun laws yet with gun homicides pushing 1000+ a year
working models right there for you in your own country!
Either you're trolling or you're monumentally retarded , not sure. if you think 1000+ killed in a year is a working model , you're far lost than I initially thought.
as i said if trucks are so much better for killing people why bother with a gun for protection? just use your truck. go and check out the stats for massacres committed by vehicle compared to massacres committed by gun....tell me what you find? why do the gang bangers bother with guns instead of just renting trucks?
LMFAO you just keep digging yourself in deeper lol you're conflating protection with mass destruction. You're getting desperate with each post. The point which went over your head was people hell bent on mass murder will do so with or without a gun.
it doesn't matter how you chop this up. you are always going to be on the wrong side of this argument. having so many guns in your society is not enhancing it, it is a burden on it.
go look at the rest of the developed (working models) for proof
The numbers beg to differ , 100 million gun owners , 400 million guns. If it was based on numbers the murder & suicide rates would be in the millions !! the vast majority of law abiding gun owners do the right thing and are among the lost law abiding people in the country , but a few lunatics decide to kill a bunch of people and lets throw the baby out with the bath water. Sound logic but you , as usual. And Mexico is part of the " developed world " our murder rates aren't even comparable to theirs. Brazil? Are they not part of the " developed " world? Their rates are even fucking higher
Keep digger yourself deeper ;)
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you're comparing apples with oranges. SA is a 3rd world country the US is a developed country. in the US non gun owners are statistically less likely to be violently killed than gun owners.
if the white population in SA hadn't treat the native population so badly maybe they wouldn't be so enthusiastic about victimising you now. tbh considering the horror of the apartheid era the native population as a whole should be applauded for how well they generally treat the whites now.
Wow, you really are scum. This topic is about weapons and crime, which apply everywhere. You consistently lose every argument in every thread around here.
And blacks murder and rape each other in far higher amounts statistically dimwit.
It's you against the whole of Getbig here in almost every thread, you've shown yourself as a supporter of terrorists, rapists, child-sex groomers, murderers and everything else.
You're just a low-class chav, so no surprises.
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Wow, you really are scum. This topic is about weapons and crime, which apply everywhere. You consistently lose every argument in every thread around here.
And blacks murder and rape each other in far higher amounts statistically dimwit.
It's you against the whole of Getbig here in almost every thread, you've shown yourself as a supporter of terrorists, rapists, child-sex groomers, murderers and everything else.
But you're just a low-class chav, so no surprises.
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No you can't , you obviously cannot grasp the amount of guns, typical of you not being able to grasp things. Please with Australia , America is not comparable to any other country in terms of firearms & population. Maybe 50% will give up their guns the rest wont calamity ensues, congrats you've accomplished nothing.
Sure , the point you're missing is they're still getting guns despite the draconian gun laws. How can this be? They can't legally get firearms yet somehow have the highest rates of gun violence. Prohibition doesn't work , and never has.
Yeah because NO innocents get caught in crossfire ::) Most black-on-black homicides are gang related so they tend to shoot each other but plenty of non-gang members get shot in the process. Chicago has some of the most oppressive gun laws yet with gun homicides pushing 1000+ a year
Either you're trolling or you're monumentally retarded , not sure. if you think 1000+ killed in a year is a working model , you're far lost than I initially thought.
LMFAO you just keep digging yourself in deeper lol you're conflating protection with mass destruction. You're getting desperate with each post. The point which went over your head was people hell bent on mass murder will do so with or without a gun.
The numbers beg to differ , 100 million gun owners , 400 million guns. If it was based on numbers the murder & suicide rates would be in the millions !! the vast majority of law abiding gun owners do the right thing and are among the lost law abiding people in the country , but a few lunatics decide to kill a bunch of people and lets throw the baby out with the bath water. Sound logic but you , as usual. And Mexico is part of the " developed world " our murder rates aren't even comparable to theirs. Brazil? Are they not part of the " developed " world? Their rates are even fucking higher
Keep digger yourself deeper ;)
50% giving up their guns would be excellent. that alone would start to greatly turn the problem around.
the criminals are still getting guns because there's so many legal guns in circulation. if your state laws are strict just go to a neighbouring state. you said earlier that a lot of crim guns are come from either or by theft or straw purchase. if there's no (or way fewer) legal guns to steal or available for straw purchase it naturally follows that the number of guns getting into the wrong will reduce...that's not rocket science, surely? look at every other developed country in the world...very few criminals with guns. you think it's all just coincidence?
if you reduce the legal flow thus reducing the illegal flow, the obvious knock on effect would be less non gang members caught in cross fire, no?
agreed someone determined and resourceful enough to kill will probably find a way. difference is having a gun makes it so easy. some tennager wakes up p1ssed off, "i know what i'll go shoot up my school" don't need much determination or resourcefulness,just access to a gun...
and now you really are clutching at straws comparing the US with 3rd world countries in south america LOL. apparently the majority of guns used in crime in mexico come from the US too, another knock on effect of your ridiculously weak gun laws.
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50% giving up their guns would be excellent. that alone would start to greatly turn the problem around.
the criminals are still getting guns because there's so many legal guns in circulation. if your state laws are strict just go to a neighbouring state. you said earlier that a lot of crim guns are come from either or by theft or straw purchase. if there's no (or way fewer) legal guns to steal or available for straw purchase it naturally follows that the number of guns getting into the wrong will reduce...that's not rocket science, surely? look at every other developed country in the world...very few criminals with guns. you think it's all just coincidence?
if you reduce the legal flow thus reducing the illegal flow, the obvious knock on effect would be less non gang members caught in cross fire, no?
agreed someone determined and resourceful enough to kill will probably find a way. difference is having a gun makes it so easy. some tennager wakes up p1ssed off, "i know what i'll go shoot up my school" don't need much determination or resourcefulness,just access to a gun...
and now you really are clutching at straws comparing the US with 3rd world countries in south america LOL. apparently the majority of guns used in crime in mexico come from the US too, another knock on effect of your ridiculously weak gun laws.
50% giving up their guns would be excellent. that alone would start to greatly turn the problem around.
WRONG stupid. Why? Because they're the legal vetted gun owners , you know NOT the fucking problem dummy. And the other 50% say " come and get them " then Civil war 2 starts. Congrats to stop mass shootings you just created millions more. Sound logic ::)
the criminals are still getting guns because there's so many legal guns in circulation. if your state laws are strict just go to a neighbouring state. you said earlier that a lot of crim guns are come from either or by theft or straw purchase. if there's no (or way fewer) legal guns to steal or available for straw purchase it naturally follows that the number of guns getting into the wrong will reduce...that's not rocket science, surely? look at every other developed country in the world...very few criminals with guns. you think it's all just coincidence?
Sigh it's to late to cry the " less is more " argument. Again you CANNOT compare the United States to other countries , they don't have the number of firearms or people. Stop it's a apples vs oranges. Mexico is a developed country , they have very strict gun laws , they have much higher murder rates with guns ;)
if you reduce the legal flow thus reducing the illegal flow, the obvious knock on effect would be less non gang members caught in cross fire, no?
You're not even trying now , you're just posting to save face and it's not working. Legal gun owners aren't the ones killing each other over gang wars , stop conflating the two. Reducing the number of guns also reduces the number in which people use them defensively which is over 2 MILLION times a year , ban guns to save 10K at the cost of 2 million? sounds logical or reasonable to you?
Guns banned in the UK but some fucking guy just got machine-gun Kelly in London. UK bans guns just go to neighboring countries see how that works? ;)
agreed someone determined and resourceful enough to kill will probably find a way. difference is having a gun makes it so easy. some tennager wakes up p1ssed off, "i know what i'll go shoot up my school" don't need much determination or resourcefulness,just access to a gun...
Or a car or a truck or some ammonium nitrate...take away guns perhaps school shootings will stop , then running over kids becomes the new trend , who would dare suggest ban cars? in the scheme of things again , these are rare events. And then you have to content with the new class of victims you just created 2 million of them but hey it's for the kids right?
and now you really are clutching at straws comparing the US with 3rd world countries in south america LOL. apparently the majority of guns used in crime in mexico come from the US too, another knock on effect of your ridiculously weak gun laws.
These countries are not " developed? " and prove your statement don't just type it. A LOT of guns from the U.S did end up in Mexico thanks to Obama and Fast & Furious. Mexico prohibits gun ownership , yet 30K dead last year from HOMICIDE not suicide.
And gun laws aren't the problem , people breaking them and when convicted liberal judges NOT enforcing them. Illegal to sell guns to prohibited people , once someone does this makes them a criminal.
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LOL you're so stupid it's funny.
i'll leave you with this... AGAIN!
reduce the number of guns in circulation and you automatically stem the flow of guns going to criminals and you reduce the frequency of random massacres.
guns in your society is just not working for you. it's time to admit the problem and start doing something to change it. like the lifelong junkie who finally faces up to his addiction.
and mexico and brazil are not developed countries, btw :)
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LOL you're so stupid it's funny.
i'll leave you with this... AGAIN!
reduce the number of guns in circulation and you automatically stem the flow of guns going to criminals and you reduce the frequency of random massacres.
guns in your society is just not working for you. it's time to admit the problem and start doing something to change it. like the lifelong junkie who finally faces up to his addiction.
and mexico and brazil are not developed countries, btw :)
reduce the number of guns in circulation and you automatically stem the flow of guns going to criminals and you reduce the frequency of random massacres.
Repeating your same bullshit logic doesn't make it smell any less. Stupid , follow the bouncing ball. Reduce the number of guns and create 2 million more victims to save 300 kids from extremely rare mass shooting events. You cannot ignore this fact because I will keep shoving it down your throat
guns in your society is just not working for you. it's time to admit the problem and start doing something to change it. like the lifelong junkie who finally faces up to his addiction.
WRONG 2 million defensive use of guns each year and that's from the CDC !! ;) You're sadly mistaken as usual. the solution to saving 30 kids who may die in school shooting but at the expense of 2 million. Yeah ok fuck off with your nonsense.
and mexico and brazil are not developed countries, btw
I'll play your semantics games , yet in both countries guns are severely limited to the general population and wow guess what more gun violence than everyone else. ;)
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Repeating your same bullshit logic doesn't make it smell any less. Stupid , follow the bouncing ball. Reduce the number of guns and create 2 million more victims to save 300 kids from extremely rare mass shooting events. You cannot ignore this fact because I will keep shoving it down your throat
WRONG 2 million defensive use of guns each year and that's from the CDC !! ;) You're sadly mistaken as usual. the solution to saving 30 kids who may die in school shooting but at the expense of 2 million. Yeah ok fuck off with your nonsense.
I'll play your semantics games , yet in both countries guns are severely limited to the general population and wow guess what more gun violence than everyone else. ;)
Exactly!!
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Oh fuck Conker so much for less guns less gun crime FYI ALL of these countries have less guns than the U.S. but their rates are through the fucking roof. AND BTW they have less people too :o
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ND bringing the pain in this thread👍😎
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Oh fuck Conker so much for less guns less gun crime FYI ALL of these countries have less guns than the U.S. but their rates are through the fucking roof. AND BTW they have less people too :o
good to see you're comparing with the US a host of other peaceful and prosperous countries ???
why not try comparing it with more impoverished basket case countries like the UK, germany, japan, france etc...
fox news puts it better than i can
"Past studies have shown that gun owners are much likelier to be shot with their own weapons than they are to use it to thwart a crime."
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/09/20/more-guns-equal-more-deaths-study-finds.html
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good to see you're comparing with the US a host of other peaceful and prosperous countries ???
why not try comparing it with more impoverished basket case countries like the UK, germany, japan, france etc...
fox news puts it better than i can
"Past studies have shown that gun owners are much likelier to be shot with their own weapons than they are to use it to thwart a crime."
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/09/20/more-guns-equal-more-deaths-study-finds.html
FAIL
This is checkmate stupid. Your thesis is a failure.
Conker " less guns means less gun deaths "
WRONG
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everyone thinks they're superman....till they get shot with their own gun....piaow! piaow! paiow! next random massacre in... 3...2....
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everyone thinks they're superman....till they get shot with their own gun....piaow! piaow! paiow! next random massacre in... 3...2....
Do you feel stupid? Because you sure as fuck look it ;)
Conker " less guns means less gun deaths "
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no it's not too late. you can take a lot of the guns out of circulation with gun amnesties and making gun ownership illegal. has been done successfully in australia. another working model ;)
BULLSHIT , U are Wikipedia "gun" historian. More weapons than ever in Aussie.Everyone wants Adler ( ;D).
OBW Paki, Fishers & SHOOTERS political party is in NSW Government.
"Teach us" about guns in Pakistan or Lebanon ;D
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everyone thinks they're superman....till they get shot with their own gun....piaow! piaow! paiow! next random massacre in... 3...2....
::) ::) ::) U must be Paki's moron of the year ..................
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::) ::) ::) U must be Paki's moron of the year ..................
'conker' getting repeatedly owned by everyone in this thread , including himself . . .
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The right to bear arms is one of the reasons why America can`t go bottom up from a commie revolution. There is no revolution when the people have weapons because they can defend themselves from the terror of communists or tyrannical government.
And yes, leftist are a real threat today, more so then during the cold war, educational system was infiltrated and kids brainwashed into their stupid ideology.
As far as UK goes, it is becoming more and more totalitarian every day, freedom of speech is the first that went there, now its controlling everything you do/can do as an individual in the name of "safety".
Triple F is still separating America from shitholes like UK...
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i have to admit you yanks are so much more "advanced" with your weapon legislation. that's why kids are routinely massacred in your schools, to the point where if only 10 kids are offed in one massacre no one even bats an eyelid anymore.
yes with your track record you're really in a position to be ridiculing other countries' laws ???
break down these mass shootings compared to population.....its a very very small percentage. the media glamorizes it
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Massive 'Free Tommy Robinson' protest by Football Lads in Manchester !. :D
AfD organized demonstration against Merkel in Berlin :)
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:)
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well probably about 20% of your presidents have been shot and 10% shot and killed while in office.....
so that's not really panning out too well
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I'm no hypocrite as I don't care - I'm safe(ish) in my gated little community, the rest of the world can fend for itself...
But what I do care about is can these f**king things shoot a quarter of a mile?? Surely one of you nutcases owns one of these things? I smell a new hobby... :)
Just purchased the Raptor 80lbs model to play with.
If it is as good as they say I'll probably move up a few models and spend some cash on a 200lbs one with lazer sight and all the toys. My wife can have the raptor then...
The cache of protective items is growing.....UK has gay gun laws and I have a criminal record ergo I have to be creative...
These bows are the next best thing for me...
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well probably about 20% of your presidents have been shot and 10% shot and killed while in office.....
so that's not really panning out too well
Perhaps you prefer a simpler beheading with the head mounted on a post outside of the royal castle? Should there be a disemboweling as well, or will the beheading suffice?
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Perhaps you prefer a simpler beheading with the head mounted on a post outside of the royal castle? Should there be a disemboweling as well, or will the beheading suffice?
;D
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Perhaps you prefer a simpler beheading with the head mounted on a post outside of the royal castle? Should there be a disemboweling as well, or will the beheading suffice?
disembowelment would just be the finishing touch. like steroids and bodybuilding
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disembowelment would just be the finishing touch. like steroids and bodybuilding
:)
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disembowelment would just be the finishing touch. like steroids and bodybuilding
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