50% giving up their guns would be excellent. that alone would start to greatly turn the problem around.
the criminals are still getting guns because there's so many legal guns in circulation. if your state laws are strict just go to a neighbouring state. you said earlier that a lot of crim guns are come from either or by theft or straw purchase. if there's no (or way fewer) legal guns to steal or available for straw purchase it naturally follows that the number of guns getting into the wrong will reduce...that's not rocket science, surely? look at every other developed country in the world...very few criminals with guns. you think it's all just coincidence?
if you reduce the legal flow thus reducing the illegal flow, the obvious knock on effect would be less non gang members caught in cross fire, no?
agreed someone determined and resourceful enough to kill will probably find a way. difference is having a gun makes it so easy. some tennager wakes up p1ssed off, "i know what i'll go shoot up my school" don't need much determination or resourcefulness,just access to a gun...
and now you really are clutching at straws comparing the US with 3rd world countries in south america LOL. apparently the majority of guns used in crime in mexico come from the US too, another knock on effect of your ridiculously weak gun laws.
50% giving up their guns would be excellent. that alone would start to greatly turn the problem around.
WRONG stupid. Why? Because they're the legal vetted gun owners , you know NOT the fucking problem dummy. And the other 50% say " come and get them " then Civil war 2 starts. Congrats to stop mass shootings you just created millions more. Sound logic
the criminals are still getting guns because there's so many legal guns in circulation. if your state laws are strict just go to a neighbouring state. you said earlier that a lot of crim guns are come from either or by theft or straw purchase. if there's no (or way fewer) legal guns to steal or available for straw purchase it naturally follows that the number of guns getting into the wrong will reduce...that's not rocket science, surely? look at every other developed country in the world...very few criminals with guns. you think it's all just coincidence?
Sigh it's to late to cry the " less is more " argument. Again you CANNOT compare the United States to other countries , they don't have the number of firearms or people. Stop it's a apples vs oranges. Mexico is a developed country , they have very strict gun laws , they have much higher murder rates with guns
if you reduce the legal flow thus reducing the illegal flow, the obvious knock on effect would be less non gang members caught in cross fire, no?
You're not even trying now , you're just posting to save face and it's not working. Legal gun owners aren't the ones killing each other over gang wars , stop conflating the two. Reducing the number of guns also reduces the number in which people use them defensively which is over 2 MILLION times a year , ban guns to save 10K at the cost of 2 million? sounds logical or reasonable to you?
Guns banned in the UK but some fucking guy just got machine-gun Kelly in London. UK bans guns just go to neighboring countries see how that works?
agreed someone determined and resourceful enough to kill will probably find a way. difference is having a gun makes it so easy. some tennager wakes up p1ssed off, "i know what i'll go shoot up my school" don't need much determination or resourcefulness,just access to a gun...
Or a car or a truck or some ammonium nitrate...take away guns perhaps school shootings will stop , then running over kids becomes the new trend , who would dare suggest ban cars? in the scheme of things again , these are rare events. And then you have to content with the new class of victims you just created 2 million of them but hey it's for the kids right?
and now you really are clutching at straws comparing the US with 3rd world countries in south america LOL. apparently the majority of guns used in crime in mexico come from the US too, another knock on effect of your ridiculously weak gun laws.
These countries are not " developed? " and prove your statement don't just type it. A LOT of guns from the U.S did end up in Mexico thanks to Obama and Fast & Furious. Mexico prohibits gun ownership , yet 30K dead last year from HOMICIDE not suicide.
And gun laws aren't the problem , people breaking them and when convicted liberal judges NOT enforcing them. Illegal to sell guns to prohibited people , once someone does this makes them a criminal.
