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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: muscleman-2017 on July 15, 2018, 06:46:58 AM
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I somehow doubt it. I wonder what endeavour he would have pursued? Maybe crossfit?
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Classic physique? His 75 version although top heavy would be close to the upper limits of height versus weight.
Might seem a bit too Beta for him but he would still be able to demonstrate his Alpha side by criticising the current, “bloated bubble gutted freaks that can’t pose for shit!”
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Arnold at his best would destroy the current crop of pros. The crowd would demand his victory standing side by side with these soft bloated champs.
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Arnold at his best would destroy the current crop of pros. The crowd would demand his victory standing side by side with these soft bloated champs.
LOL..Dumbass
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LOL..Dumbass
Current crop are all midgets
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Arnold is the mr.Olympia champ with the best potential of all past winners ..... every single winner reached their peak at age 30 or so ....Arnold wanted out of competing at age 27 to move in to "bigger and betters things " with that said he never really reached muscle maturity and started leaning out losing size for the acting thing in 1974 ....
Answering your question ,I doubt a 20 year old Arnold would have taken pro BB seriously in 2018 .
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I somehow doubt it. I wonder what endeavour he would have pursued? Maybe crossfit?
He would’ve gone straight to Politics
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why wouldn't he choose it today? the sport is a lot bigger now than it was in the 60's
if he saw bodybuilding as his ticket to hit the big time then why not now when there are more opportunities?
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He will has plastic surgery, and then go to Hollywood. Mr O??? No teenagers would like to be...
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Arnold Schwarzenegger's entire foundation was laid on his being a..."muscleman"...
Not to say that he would not have been a successful immigrant in Southern California...He would have a successful...oh say..house building business.
But his extreme wealth came from returns on the investments he made with his TV and film work income...
An LA sound-man I met, who had worked at Merv Griffin productions said that it was Merv who taught Arnie how to invest.
His early showbiz income and his contacts together made Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Arnold was a millionaire from real estate before the movies, so he was successful anyway
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why wouldn't he choose it today? the sport is a lot bigger now than it was in the 60's
if he saw bodybuilding as his ticket to hit the big time then why not now when there are more opportunities?
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In the 60's Arnold was the only "mass monster " around he got attention , and $$$ coming from mail orders ,had food, juice, car apartment taken care by Weider etc now, 2018 ; with the internet and tons of Buff dudes preaching ,BS etc .....and the unwanted musclehead image pushed by planet fitness to mainstream audiences ... He'd be more of the same .... and he always wanted to be the king of the hill (not just Bodybuilders fans) but a larger than life persona .
I just don't see how someone with the mindset as Arnold would even pursuit an Olympia tittle in 2018 .
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I somehow doubt it. I wonder what endeavour he would have pursued? Maybe crossfit?
20 today?
NO!
Young people growing up today have very different views.
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Something tells me he would go for mma instead. I think he would think the guys in bb today are to big and die to young to even consider it as a career. Who knows though?
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In the 60's Arnold was the only "mass monster " around he got attention , and $$$ coming from mail orders ,had food, juice, car apartment taken care by Weider etc now, 2018 ; with the internet and tons of Buff dudes preaching ,BS etc .....and the unwanted musclehead image pushed by planet fitness to mainstream audiences ... He'd be more of the same .... and he always wanted to be the king of the hill (not just Bodybuilders fans) but a larger than life persona .
I just don't see how someone with the mindset as Arnold would even pursuit an Olympia tittle in 2018 .
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anybody that lifted back then was looked at as a weirdo, big or small it didn't matter it is far more accepted today
arnold would be a bodybuilder today, no doubt about it
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anybody that lifted back then was looked at as a weirdo, big or small it didn't matter it is far more accepted today
arnold would be a bodybuilder today, no doubt about it
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The topic has a foundation issue. 20 years old guys would like to be movie star, singer ... not bodybuilder! what's the job duties of bodybuilders?
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The topic has a foundation issue. 20 years old guys would like to be movie star, singer ... not bodybuilder! what's the job duties of bodybuilders?
Arnold had it all working for him at an early age, by age 23 he was the best bodybuilder in the planet godammit !!! with his face on covers of magazines in every stand , (when that really meant something) traveling the world yet by age 26 he wanted SOMETHING ELSE !!!!! .....people forget that since day one, when teenager he just wanted to be like Reg Park and Reeves both muscle man in movies ... when he came to USA he even landed a role in Hercules in New York he wasn't even a Mr.O yet ! He knew what he wanted and certainly knew how to get it .....but that was 50 years ago buddy
Of course this is a What IF so, we would never know .,... But in 2018 I seriously doubt he'd be interesting in a "pro card" and b featured in RXmuscle ;D
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Bodybuilding is subjective. That being said, Ronnie surpassed Arnold years ago as the greatest bodybuilder that’s ever lived.
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The topic has a foundation issue. 20 years old guys would like to be movie star, singer ... not bodybuilder! what's the job duties of bodybuilders?
arnold needed bodybuilding to become a movie star
he owes his entire life to muscle, that was a ticket to reach his ultimate goal and i don't see how his charisma or whatever would make him a movie star today without the muscle
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I believe Arnold has always been motivated by his ambition. If he were still the same person only twenty years old, he'd seize whatever opportunity was likely to produce the best results. Note: sleeping with the maid was not born of ambition. It was more likely just a stupid penis driven and possibly ego enhancing act. One that he probably regrets despite that it resulted in him having another son.
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I believe Arnold has always been motivated by his ambition. If he were still the same person only twenty years old, he'd seize whatever opportunity was likely to produce the best results. Note: sleeping with the maid was not born of ambition. It was more likely just a stupid penis driven and possibly ego enhancing act. One that he probably regrets despite that it resulted in him having another son.
I disagree about the maid. While she most certainly was hit with the ugly stick, Miss Shriver was much uglier and the maid had much bigger and better tits. Plus, I find that the bigger ones do way more stuff.
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arnold needed bodybuilding to become a movie star
he owes his entire life to muscle, that was a ticket to reach his ultimate goal and i don't see how his charisma or whatever would make him a movie star today without the muscle
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Please see the subject... Arnold is 20 years old today... Nowadays bodybuilding is not a path to be a movie star. I don't think normal people would like to see a muscle pig wearing a tiny thongs and flexing his muscle in any movies...
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His sons are around that age. They are not doing it.
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Please see the subject... Arnold is 20 years old today... Nowadays bodybuilding is not a path to be a movie star. I don't think normal people would like to see a muscle pig wearing a tiny thongs and flexing his muscle in any movies...
explain how it was a path to being a movie star 50 years ago when even the simple act of exercise was considered bizarre?
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His sons are around that age. They are not doing it.
why would they? bodybuilding takes a lot of time, commitment, and sacrifice they don't need it and patrick is getting acting roles just by being his son
maybe they would be more interested if they were poor nobodies in a shithole country like austria in hopes of a better life?
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Nope, he tried using muscle for the Hercules in New York movie and it got him nowhere. His next movie was almost 10 years later. That he needed his massive drug-enhanced physique for the roles given to him due to his limited range is another point - there were heaps of BBers, including his old friend Franco, who only got bit parts or no calls at all from agents. As always, knowing the right people gets you ahead of people who know nobody, and who nobody knows.
He needed the Shrivers to get into Hollywood, and he got them.
is he cast as conan or the terminator without muscle? no he is not and those are the movies that put him on the map well before he even met maria
most actors aren't A list after their first movie
franco is the height of an average woman, doesn't have the charisma, and his accent is not cool like arnold's
he probably only got a chance at all because he knew arnold
arnold without bodybuilding is still living in austria whether it's the 60's or today
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I somehow doubt it. I wonder what endeavour he would have pursued? Maybe crossfit?
better question...who gives a shit?
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I disagree about the maid. While she most certainly was hit with the ugly stick, Miss Shriver was much uglier and the maid had much bigger and better tits. Plus, I find that the bigger ones do way more stuff.
That's because you're a tit man. Some guys like butts, some like tits and a few like faces and personality. As for ladies with big mammaries doing more stuff, you undoubtedly have a lot more experience with this than I do, so I can't confirm or deny it. ;D
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better question...who gives a shit?
Clearly the people in this thread. Including you...
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I somehow doubt it. I wonder what endeavour he would have pursued? Maybe crossfit?
If Arnold was born in 1998 in Austria and was 20 today he'd probably be a regular dude.
His father wouldn't have been in the Nazi party and not as strict , and Reg Park wouldn't be an inspiration and he wouldn't have strongmen, weightlifters and bodybuilders on posters in his room.
He'd probably be a liberal or maybe working in IT or sales.
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and in your case, you liked neither, hence your sexual u-turn after the old bag bit the dust
Tell me more about my life. You seem to believe you are an expert on it. ::)
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No way! If he would choose competitive sports I would say Mixed Marshal Arts!
MMA is fairly new or at least the "UFC" is still growing fast. I think to get started and make a name for himself its definitely a good chance to compete in MMA or the "UFC. Sort of like McGregor. It's well known he loves the sport. Its like in the 70s when there was still room to get Super Stardom!
In Bb that time has come and gone but the UFC has still room to expand. With his Charisma and build he could pull it of!
Of course only if he would come from a working class background. But who really knows..lol
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No way! If he would choose competitive sports I would say Mixed Marshal Arts!
MMA is fairly new or at least the "UFC" is still growing fast. I think to get started and make a name for himself its definitely a good chance to compete in MMA or the "UFC. Sort of like McGregor. It's well known he loves the sport. Its like in the 70s when there was still room to get Super Stardom!
In Bb that time has come and gone but the UFC has still room to expand. With his Charisma and build he could pull it of!
Of course only if he would come from a working class background. But who really knows..lol
I actually don't think he would be an athlete or into sports at all, he'd probably be a businessman 25+.
I think the main reason he was so competitive back then was due to his harsh upbringing and strict father, combined with that he saw a Reg Park-Hercules movie back then.
Growing up now you don't see that, instead you get All female Ghostbusters and whatnot, and his upbringing wouldn't be as hard either.
His father wouldn't be in the Nazi Party either. He'd probably grow up in an easier household with a better economy.
Easy Life = Not as hard a man.
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I actually don't think he would be an athlete or into sports at all, he'd probably be a businessman 25+.
I think the main reason he was so competitive back then was due to his harsh upbringing and strict father, combined with that he saw a Reg Park-Hercules movie back then.
Growing up now you don't see that, instead you get All female Ghostbusters and whatnot, and his upbringing wouldn't be as hard either.
His father wouldn't be in the Nazi Party either. He'd probably grow up in an easier household with a better economy.
Easy Life = Not as hard a man.
Very true!
But he still is Arnold, so he wanted always to be the best in something. In the early days it was sports! That's why he chose Bb because he didn't have to relay on anyone else but himself!
Competition in sports is a big part of growing up and he could still be very good in it. But yes of course he is a smart guy so maybe he would be a business man !Look at his Nephew Patrick Knapp, he is a Lawyer. But we will never know except that he was the greatest Bodybuilder ever and at one point the highest paid actor in the world! Oh and the Governor of Cali.!loll He has done pretty much everything anyway. Good for him.
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explain how it was a path to being a movie star 50 years ago when even the simple act of exercise was considered bizarre?
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Again , back then Arnold was the only 250 pounds , tall young BBer ...he got the roll of Herculers movies for that same reason ......today , there's a bunch of bodybuilders with those features and speak fluent english ...Arnold wouldn't stand a chance in 2018 (not that fast/young at least ) .....
As bizarre as you might think BB was perceived ....Arnold was featured nationwide in printed magazines (in full color ) running around at the beautiful beaches of cali with beautiful girls all over him .......we were naive as hell and thought the life style was fun and you didn't need to inject drugs, etc ....... yes, it was 50 years ago I know ....
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Again arnold was a millionaire before acting through real estate, so already rich and successful businessman.
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Again arnold was a millionaire before acting through real estate, so already rich and successful businessman.
And?
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Arnold ould claim natty, by o'hearn standarts.
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Again arnold was a millionaire before acting through real estate, so already rich and successful businessman.
Again, he wouldn't be a bodybuilder if he was 20 years today.
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Again, he wouldn't be a bodybuilder if he was 20 years today.
Again, no way! Sports maybe but not Bb!
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Yeah, but there were guys bigger than Arnold who could probably act as cool as him or better, not to mention he took classes to get rid of his accent until he figured out it was his biggest asset. The Kennedy family opened the doors to him, muscle or not. I already mentioned his physique made him who he was, but it didn't get him the roles in the first place. In the late 70s he was selling his bodybuilding bible and catalog order business of him using leg extension machines. Why would he bother with that if his career was off and running? Give credit to him where it's due but don't oversell this guy, he's no genius except when it came to relationship-building, and that's all anyone really needs to make it in their field of choice. It's why even Arnold's assist to get Kevin in Redline didn't result in a film career for the man, despite the fact that he's obviously more handsome and sellable than Arnold was at the same age.
nobody could be as cool as arnold, which is why we haven't seen anybody like him before or after his prime years
he auditioned to be kyle reese in terminator, james cameron looked at his body and said he should be the terminator when his initial plans was for the terminator to blend in and look like a normal person
i'm well aware many people are successful because of their connections, it's often who you know not what you know
but i think it's a bit of sore losers attitude to think a guy that came from nothing in austria largely got to where he is today based on knowing the right people, no connections can make somebody that cool and likable, his physique is still the most popular and no it isn't because of his movies he was tall and had shape and aesthetics that are largely unmatched to this day
if he was just another guy with connections he would be as relevant today as dolph lundgren, a guy that had some success in the 80's and then pretty much disappeared
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He had a couple of million, not 700 million. Real estate doesn't make you wealthy unless you're in Trump's league.
Funny every dip shit these days are a real estate agent hahahaha
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Again , back then Arnold was the only 250 pounds , tall young BBer ...he got the roll of Herculers movies for that same reason ......today , there's a bunch of bodybuilders with those features and speak fluent english ...Arnold wouldn't stand a chance in 2018 (not that fast/young at least ) .....
As bizarre as you might think BB was perceived ....Arnold was featured nationwide in printed magazines (in full color ) running around at the beautiful beaches of cali with beautiful girls all over him .......we were naive as hell and thought the life style was fun and you didn't need to inject drugs, etc ....... yes, it was 50 years ago I know ....
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doesn't matter if they have his features, can you name any bodybuilder or muscle man that had his charisma?
the only one arguable is the rock and no coincidence he is now the highest paid actor of all time and he had tons of connections in wrestling
his connections in wrestling did not make him a super star in hollywood, hulk hogan tried acting too and it didn't work
a lot of guys are jacked, you won't find many guys that are jacked and have charisma of arnold and that is why he was a superstar
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doesn't matter if they have his features, can you name any bodybuilder or muscle man that had his charisma?
the only one arguable is the rock and no coincidence he is now the highest paid actor of all time and he had tons of connections in wrestling
his connections in wrestling did not make him a super star in hollywood, hulk hogan tried acting too and it didn't work
a lot of guys are jacked, you won't find many guys that are jacked and have charisma of arnold and that is why he was a superstar
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For sure! He also picked the right roles on the beginning so he didn't disappoint. As he got bigger and people started to support his acting, it just grew! So did his roles and payday! He won a Golden Globe 1977! As best acting debut in a Motion Picture. lol! Most people dont even know that!
He was just a very likeable guy with a personality bigger then life! That was his true talent!
Or Charisma!
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For sure! He also picked the right roles on the beginning so he didn't disappoint. As he got bigger and people started to support his acting, it just grew! So did his roles and payday! He won a Golden Globe 1977! As best acting debut in a Motion Picture. lol! Most people dont even know that!
He was just a very likeable guy with a personality bigger then life! That was his true talent!
Or Charisma!
Perhaps 'the Rock' is following in Arnold's footsteps.
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So he wouldn't have chosen to look like a bloated pig like they do these days.
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He had a couple of million, not 700 million. Real estate doesn't make you wealthy unless you're in Trump's league.
Arnold was a self made man who came from a far away shithole , Trump was the son of a millionaire.
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Arnold would be up in dem clubs homie!
Would probably be a DJ turnin a few knobs makin' paper!
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Arnold was a millionaire from real estate before the movies, so he was successful anyway
No he wasn't. That's all BS.
He got a small stipend from Joe Weider and made only a small amounts from his Olympia wins. The purses were very small. As far as the bricklayer nonsense and real estate investments, where would he have gotten the money to invest? Selling bodybuilding mail order courses? Some money but not a lot. He didn't make any serious money in those years.
He didn't start cashing in until 1984 with Conan the Destroyer (Conan 2) and Terminator.
His career movie earnings are well over $200 million.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000216/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm#salary
Salary:
Hercules in New York (1970) $12,000
Conan the Barbarian (1982) $250,000
Conan the Destroyer (1984) $1,000,000
The Terminator (1984) $750,000
Commando (1985) $1,500,000
Predator (1987) $3,000,000
The Running Man (1987) $5,000,000
Red Heat (1988) $8,000,000
Total Recall (1990) $10,000,000
Kindergarten Cop (1990) $12,000,000
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) $15,000,000
Last Action Hero (1993) $15,000,000
True Lies (1994) $15,000,000
Junior (1994) $15,000,000
Eraser (1996) $20,000,000
Jingle All the Way (1996) $20,000,000
Batman & Robin (1997) $25,000,000
End of Days (1999) $22,000,000
The 6th Day (2000) $25,000,000
Collateral Damage (2002) $25,000,000
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003) $29,250,000
The Last Stand (2013) $5,000,000 +25% of first dollar
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doesn't matter if they have his features, can you name any bodybuilder or muscle man that had his charisma?
the only one arguable is the rock and no coincidence he is now the highest paid actor of all time and he had tons of connections in wrestling
his connections in wrestling did not make him a super star in hollywood, hulk hogan tried acting too and it didn't work
a lot of guys are jacked, you won't find many guys that are jacked and have charisma of arnold and that is why he was a superstar
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Exactly why I think a young Arnold wouldn't be chasing a pro card today... with the mindset ,charisma "barracuda mode" and no uncle Joe around ...... nothing to look for in this "sport" .
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christ i would hope not
can anyone imagine arnold except on the drug meta of today's pros? Fat, bloated, bald and pre-diabetic just like the rest of them. Awful.
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Arnold was a self made man who came from a far away shithole , Trump was the son of a millionaire.
Austria was a first world country, not a shithole, even in 1968. Trump was given a loan by his father that would be roughly tantamount to $10,000,000 today. Do you know how easy it is to blow that kind of money in a city like New York? He turned it into the wealth you see today. Actually, he lost all of it and got it back completely on his own - where was his father in 1990? Not giving him any money to start over, for one thing. Now he has golf courses, buildings, his iconic tower, a countless investments people don't know about (which is why he didn't release his taxes). Oh, and he's also President of the United States. What's Arnold done besides turn California into a liberal shithole and cheat on the wife that got him his career in film? Let's not compare apples to oranges here.
If Arnold was that smart, he wouldn't have had to do G4P, take nude photos of himself (still searchable online), sell mail order workout videos or even inject himself with steroids for over a span of 3 decades to flex his arms on stage and later play the same role in every movie he made from 1980 to 1992. He deserves credit for what he's achieved, but he's not Donald Trump by any stretch of the imagination and I doubt he'd want to be, either. Being a billionaire and head of state is enough to kill just about anyone; look how old Obama and George W Bush looked after 8 years in the oval office.
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Kwon3, you are just killin' it today.
KO baby!
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Exactly why I think a young Arnold wouldn't be chasing a pro card today... with the mindset ,charisma "barracuda mode" and no uncle Joe around ...... nothing to look for in this "sport" .
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how does he use his charisma today to make it out of austria and into hollywood? what roles would be be cast in without being a muscle man? all of his roles revolved around his body, so what would be his niche without the muscles?
most women have told me he's not handsome, so he couldn't be a leading man like brad pitt or whatever guy is considered "hot" these days
he doesn't have the acting skills for serious roles, so what can he be other than the muscle bound hero in cheesy action movies or an inhuman looking cyborg? would a comedy like twins be as good if he was skinny? so i don't know how he becomes a movie star without bodybuilding
bodybuilding provides more opportunities now than it did in the 60's
i think arnold with today's drugs and competition would easily win the olympia, he was ahead of his time
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how does he use his charisma today to make it out of austria and into hollywood? what roles would be be cast in without being a muscle man? all of his roles revolved around his body, so what would be his niche without the muscles?
most women have told me he's not handsome, so he couldn't be a leading man like brad pitt or whatever guy is considered "hot" these days
he doesn't have the acting skills for serious roles, so what can he be other than the muscle bound hero in cheesy action movies or an inhuman looking cyborg? would a comedy like twins be as good if he was skinny? so i don't know how he becomes a movie star without bodybuilding
bodybuilding provides more opportunities now than it did in the 60's
i think arnold with today's drugs and competition would easily win the olympia, he was ahead of his time
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if you seriously think arnold became the highest paid actor in hollywood for over a decade by being "just" a muscle man, i would suggest you should go do some research on all the other muscle-men who tried to make it in hollywood and never got out made for TV garbage. There were many. Arnold absolutely had charisma and screen presence, and yes he was good looking despite what your women friends say. Ugly people do not become stars in hollywood. Steve Buscemi is a terrific actor, but he will never fill out a billboard or get top billing on a major studio film, because no one is paying to see buscemi specifically, because despite his talents, he is fucking ugly.
you are right to suggest that without bodybuilding he would not have had a career, but it does not then follow that he only owes his success to being muscular. As i say, many foolishly tried to follow in arnold's footprints thinking that all that was needed was a big ripped physique. Many tried, many failed, embarrassingly so. Hell guys that were better looking than arnold (dolph lundgren, literally a male model before film) tried to emulate it and didn't find continued success because they just didn't have that X factor.
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if you seriously think arnold became the highest paid actor in hollywood for over a decade by being "just" a muscle man, i would suggest you should go do some research on all the other muscle-men who tried to make it in hollywood and never got out made for TV garbage. There were many. Arnold absolutely had charisma and screen presence, and yes he was good looking despite what your women friends say. Ugly people do not become stars in hollywood. Steve Buscemi is a terrific actor, but he will never fill out a billboard or get top billing on a major studio film, because no one is paying to see buscemi specifically, because despite his talents, he is fucking ugly.
you are right to suggest that without bodybuilding he would not have had a career, but it does not then follow that he only owes his success to being muscular. As i say, many foolishly tried to follow in arnold's footprints thinking that all that was needed was a big ripped physique. Many tried, many failed, embarrassingly so. Hell guys that were better looking than arnold (dolph lundgren, literally a male model before film) tried to emulate it and didn't find continued success because they just didn't have that X factor.
i said many times throughout this thread that arnold's charisma is what set him apart from other muscle men
still he owes everything he has to muscle, he is still in austria to this day if not for bodybuilding, tell me how he makes it to america without muscle, tell me how joe weider or whoever today brings him to america without the muscle
is he conan without the muscle? this is the movie that made him known in hollywood
the terminator is easily his most famous role, tell me how he gets that role without the muscle when even cameron admits he picked him because of his muscle
commando, predator, twins does he get these roles without the muscle? yes or no
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No he wasn't. That's all BS.
He got a small stipend from Joe Weider and made only a small amounts from his Olympia wins. The purses were very small. As far as the bricklayer nonsense and real estate investments, where would he have gotten the money to invest? Selling bodybuilding mail order courses? Some money but not a lot. He didn't make any serious money in those years.
He didn't start cashing in until 1984 with Conan the Destroyer (Conan 2) and Terminator.
His career movie earnings are well over $200 million.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000216/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm#salary
Salary:
Hercules in New York (1970) $12,000
Conan the Barbarian (1982) $250,000
Conan the Destroyer (1984) $1,000,000
The Terminator (1984) $750,000
Commando (1985) $1,500,000
Predator (1987) $3,000,000
The Running Man (1987) $5,000,000
Red Heat (1988) $8,000,000
Total Recall (1990) $10,000,000
Kindergarten Cop (1990) $12,000,000
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) $15,000,000
Last Action Hero (1993) $15,000,000
True Lies (1994) $15,000,000
Junior (1994) $15,000,000
Eraser (1996) $20,000,000
Jingle All the Way (1996) $20,000,000
Batman & Robin (1997) $25,000,000
End of Days (1999) $22,000,000
The 6th Day (2000) $25,000,000
Collateral Damage (2002) $25,000,000
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003) $29,250,000
The Last Stand (2013) $5,000,000 +25% of first dollar
I remember the story as he made his most of his money in the beginning as a contractor, not real estate. Hired mostly bodybuilders to not just pay their way but also for marketing. No?
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I remember the story as he made his most of his money in the beginning as a contractor, not real estate. Hired mostly bodybuilders to not just pay their way but also for marketing. No?
It all sounds good from a PR angle.
Arnold transforming LA with his army of bodybuilder laborers wearing toolbelts.
Think about it how absurd that really is.
Bodybuilders are lazy as heck and just want to train and eat but Arnold convinces them to work their asses off doing home improvements.
Right...
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Austria was a first world country, not a shithole, even in 1968. Trump was given a loan by his father that would be roughly tantamount to $10,000,000 today. Do you know how easy it is to blow that kind of money in a city like New York? He turned it into the wealth you see today. Actually, he lost all of it and got it back completely on his own - where was his father in 1990? Not giving him any money to start over, for one thing. Now he has golf courses, buildings, his iconic tower, a countless investments people don't know about (which is why he didn't release his taxes). Oh, and he's also President of the United States. What's Arnold done besides turn California into a liberal shithole and cheat on the wife that got him his career in film? Let's not compare apples to oranges here.
If Arnold was that smart, he wouldn't have had to do G4P, take nude photos of himself (still searchable online), sell mail order workout videos or even inject himself with steroids for over a span of 3 decades to flex his arms on stage and later play the same role in every movie he made from 1980 to 1992. He deserves credit for what he's achieved, but he's not Donald Trump by any stretch of the imagination and I doubt he'd want to be, either. Being a billionaire and head of state is enough to kill just about anyone; look how old Obama and George W Bush looked after 8 years in the oval office.
Arnold is not where he is today because G4P ,quit that nonsense already. And yes, Trump's daddy was a millionaire .... Donald was born with a silver spoon in the big apple.
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No he wasn't. That's all BS.
He got a small stipend from Joe Weider and made only a small amounts from his Olympia wins. The purses were very small. As far as the bricklayer nonsense and real estate investments, where would he have gotten the money to invest? Selling bodybuilding mail order courses? Some money but not a lot. He didn't make any serious money in those years.
He didn't start cashing in until 1984 with Conan the Destroyer (Conan 2) and Terminator.
His career movie earnings are well over $200 million.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000216/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm#salary
Salary:
Hercules in New York (1970) $12,000
Conan the Barbarian (1982) $250,000
Conan the Destroyer (1984) $1,000,000
The Terminator (1984) $750,000
Commando (1985) $1,500,000
Predator (1987) $3,000,000
The Running Man (1987) $5,000,000
Red Heat (1988) $8,000,000
Total Recall (1990) $10,000,000
Kindergarten Cop (1990) $12,000,000
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) $15,000,000
Last Action Hero (1993) $15,000,000
True Lies (1994) $15,000,000
Junior (1994) $15,000,000
Eraser (1996) $20,000,000
Jingle All the Way (1996) $20,000,000
Batman & Robin (1997) $25,000,000
End of Days (1999) $22,000,000
The 6th Day (2000) $25,000,000
Collateral Damage (2002) $25,000,000
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003) $29,250,000
The Last Stand (2013) $5,000,000 +25% of first dollar
The movie Twins not on that list ....
Although he didn't have a salary for the movies TWINS ... he made over 30 mils
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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The movie Twins not on that list ....
Although he didn't have a salary for the movies TWINS ... he made over 30 mils
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
The amount of money you can make in Hollyweird is incredible.
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i doubt today that arnold would choose bodybuilding to be his path to fame and fortune, its just too competitive and now negative in looks to be mainstream his physique would not be rewarded in his most successful look by todays judging standards which reward bloated side effect looking physiques, whilst I like arnold I just dont see his acting skills either separating him from others. his success like most peoples was all about timing he was the right guy at the right time in the right place.
Arnold would always be successful, most likely today he would focus on education and getting into business, his determination and skill set would have him push for opportunity and eventually like his real life he would have got one and turned it into success. He's not where he is today because of his physique he's there because of his drive and ambition, bodybuilding was just the opportunity vehicle that he drove there.
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I think the key to his drive was the "hardships" of his life in Austria and relations with his family. If today mitigated these circumstances, he'd probably choose some other path, but still workout imo.
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I somehow doubt it. I wonder what endeavour he would have pursued? Maybe crossfit?
nah, He would be lazy like most 20 YOs are now.
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Arnold is not where he is today because G4P ,quit that nonsense already. And yes, Trump's daddy was a millionaire .... Donald was born with a silver spoon in the big apple.
You're misquoting me, so let me correct you: He did G4P and a host of other things before he got his start in movies. Reread what I said, unless reading is optional for you liberals.
What does Trump's father have to do with any discussion about Trump's own wealth beyond the loan he admits to getting to start it off? Give $1 million to anyone and see if they become billionaires 15 years later.
Again, you have no case. Zip. Arnold =/= Trump.
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Arnold never chose body building pro body building chose him.
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Arnold never chose body building pro body building chose him.
I agree. Before he got into competing or when he had but took 8 months off gear - either way - the photos just how slender his build was despite monster joints (as with his hands). So for that splindly kid with short legs and a long torso plus no English to become the envy of every bodybuilder in the United States from humble beginnings on a farm is an exceptional and improbably hard achievement. But he knew his limits, and even as a bodybuilding champion he was living in an era when no one cared about it or knew its winners, so basically he stopped living off only lifting pieces of metal and evolved into branching out in high society. That a bodybuilding drug abuser could go from a beach shack to mingling with crowds is Arnold's true success story, not his film career or his millions. It's how he worked his way into LA and New York's social elites one step at a time, whether washing their dishes in a hotel kitchen or promoting his workout cassette tapes or books at a local mall complete with sweatbands and latex shorts with Otomix shoes on for effect and asking around for politicians.
Arnold's gift is his charm. It has been from day one and is why he won in 1980 when he clearly didn't deserve it; got put in charge of the President's council of fitness by George HW Bush in the late '80s; how he managed to remain relevant into the early 2000s when his genre of film had buried other stars (Van Damme, Lundgren, Stallone (for a while), Seagal) ten years earlier. And finally, how he could be elected governor of the world's 4th economy (or whatever it is 5, 6) for not one but two terms.
He is many times the social genius Trump is. He just didn't choose the same line of business and so while exceedingly rich, is not a multibillionaire.
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Arnold never chose body building pro body building chose him.
??? ??? ???
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Compared to Trump, Arnold is a great bodybuilder and a fine actor. Other than those two "talents", the Oak is a sapling compared to President Trump.
Fuck Arnold for being a RINO and a kuntlette of one at that. His legacy as the greatest bodybuilder of all time is cemented in time. But...He's a socialist cucktard now and so on anything other than bodybuilding he can go intercourse himself.
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arnold's life > trump's life
just look at their demeanor even before trump took office
arnold always positive and alpha while trump is always moody and confrontational
arnold is a rags to riches story while trump was born into wealth, yet trump is the insecure guy with a major chip on his shoulder always feeling like he has something to prove
as he always has and always will, arnold wins
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arnold's life > trump's life
just look at their demeanor even before trump took office
arnold always positive and alpha while trump is always moody and confrontational
arnold is a rags to riches story while trump was born into wealth, yet trump is the insecure guy with a major chip on his shoulder always feeling like he has something to prove
as he always has and always will, arnold wins
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*SNICKER*
Arnold is the poster cuck for why someone not born here should never be allowed to be President. He should never have been allowed to be Governor. He's lib now. If you're a lib, I suppose that's a "good reason" to like him. I think he was the best ever to stand on the dais, but otherwise he's just a cucktard now. His choice to do so. FTN.
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*SNICKER*
Arnold is the poster cuck for why someone not born here should never be allowed to be President. He should never have been allowed to be Governor. He's lib now. If you're a lib, I suppose that's a "good reason" to like him. I think he was the best ever to stand on the dais, but otherwise he's just a cucktard now. His choice to do so. FTN.
so you're going to disregard all that he's accomplished because you don't agree with his political views?
here's the reality of the situation, arnold is now 70 years old, as they say around here "he's old and useless to us now" but not just to us but everybody
being 70 is not exactly "cool" especially for a guy that made his name by being larger than life
i think it's safe to say at this point in his life he realizes his days are numbered, his glory days are long gone, and he just wants people to like him at this point
give him a break he deserves it after all the awesome movies and inspiring bodybuilding pics he's given us
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arnold's life > trump's life
just look at their demeanor even before trump took office
arnold always positive and alpha while trump is always moody and confrontational
arnold is a rags to riches story while trump was born into wealth, yet trump is the insecure guy with a major chip on his shoulder always feeling like he has something to prove
as he always has and always will, arnold wins
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arnold is second to none in his arrogance
his nice guy schtick was just that, an act
he's a German Bill Cosby with a catalog of accusations and proven cheating behind him
and a two-faced hypocrite who spoke for George W.Bush in 2004 at the convention but then gave illegals driver's licenses in California
arnold would be president or want to be if he was allowed to run by the constitution, don't get that twisted for a second
nobody has a bigger chip on his shoulder than Arnold
he just hides it well and Trump doesn't need to fake it
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arnold is second to none in his arrogance
his nice guy schtick was just that, an act
he's a German Bill Cosby with a catalog of accusations and proven cheating behind him
and a two-faced hypocrite who spoke for George W.Bush in 2004 at the convention but then gave illegals driver's licenses in California
arnold would be president or want to be if he was allowed to run by the constitution, don't get that twisted for a second
nobody has a bigger chip on his shoulder than Arnold
he just hides it well and Trump doesn't need to fake it
what nice guy act? charisma does not mean you come off as a nice guy, it means you come off as cool and somebody that people gravitate towards
often times the charismatic guy is a total bully, but people still like him
trump was just the lesser of two evils compared to hilary, lets not pretend people actually like him
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what nice guy act? charisma does not mean you come off as a nice guy, it means you come off as cool and somebody that people gravitate towards
often times the charismatic guy is a total bully, but people still like him
trump was just the lesser of two evils compared to hilary, lets not pretend people actually like him
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Not necessarily. Charm generally makes people like you, otherwise it wouldn't be charming. Bullies don't bully everyone, just those they don't feel anything to gain from, usually.
As for Trump. sure they do. There's lots of people who enjoy his speeches, fill up stadiums at his rallies (when it's no longer needed, since he's elected), and proudly wear his MAGA gear as well as donate whatever little they make to causes he supports, as well as his 2016 campaign.
You're way off track here, man. Trump is very popular and will get another term, and it has nothing to do with Hillary now or previously, as he bested other Republicans as well, all of whom weren't the other guys in blue.
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so you're going to disregard all that he's accomplished because you don't agree with his political views?
here's the reality of the situation, arnold is now 70 years old, as they say around here "he's old and useless to us now" but not just to us but everybody
being 70 is not exactly "cool" especially for a guy that made his name by being larger than life
i think it's safe to say at this point in his life he realizes his days are numbered, his glory days are long gone, and he just wants people to like him at this point
give him a break he deserves it after all the awesome movies and inspiring bodybuilding pics he's given us
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Why shouldn't I? I've never seen him at my mother's home on Thanksgiving. IOW, he's nothing to me on a personal level. I find his politics disgusting. He's a RINO. As I've said before, overall he's the best to ever grace a dais.
Other than that, he's now a cucktard.
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Not necessarily. Charm generally makes people like you, otherwise it wouldn't be charming. Bullies don't bully everyone, just those they don't feel anything to gain from, usually.
As for Trump. sure they do. There's lots of people who enjoy his speeches, fill up stadiums at his rallies (when it's no longer needed, since he's elected), and proudly wear his MAGA gear as well as donate whatever little they make to causes he supports, as well as his 2016 campaign.
You're way off track here, man. Trump is very popular and will get another term, and it has nothing to do with Hillary now or previously, as he bested other Republicans as well, all of whom weren't the other guys in blue.
you know "charm" as well as i know rocket science, creepy stalker upset because i don't like that dorian pic
oh and wannabe shooters like you all support trump, like i said projection ;)
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you know "charm" as well as i know rocket science, creepy stalker upset because i don't like that dorian pic
oh and wannabe shooters like you all support trump, like i said projection ;)
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So you're just going to slip behind personal attacks instead of addressing what I wrote? That's pretty childish, man. Aren't you 46?
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So you're just going to slip behind personal attacks instead of addressing what I wrote? That's pretty childish, man. Aren't you 46?
the stalking homicidal troll is calling me childish
i think dorian looks like shit in that pic, keep crying
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the stalking homicidal troll is calling me childish
i think dorian looks like shit in that pic, keep crying
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That's great. Opinions exist for a reason and we all have one.
What does that have to do with the calumnies in your posts or the obviously emotionally-charged responses you're shooting out here? There seems to be a proportionality issue where one person disagrees with you and you basically lose your mind and start vilifying them. Why is that?
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That's great. Opinions exist for a reason and we all have one.
What does that have to do with the calumnies in your posts or the obviously emotionally-charged responses you're shooting out here? There seems to be a proportionality issue where one person disagrees with you and you basically lose your mind and start vilifying them. Why is that?
you brought up my sexual assault experience among other nonsense all because i don't like that dorian pic, take a look in the mirror dude you aren't right in the head
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you brought up my sexual assault experience among other nonsense all because i don't like that dorian pic, take a look in the mirror dude you aren't right in the head
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I brought it up because it seems fictitious and intended to draw attention to yourself. Why would you post that on this forum?
I haven't talked about Dorian since I posted his photo, yet that's all you've replied with for the last 15 minutes. Do you see the pattern here?
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I brought it up because it seems fictitious and intended to draw attention to yourself. Why would you post that on this forum?
I haven't talked about Dorian since I posted his photo, yet that's all you've replied with for the last 15 minutes. Do you see the pattern here?
the thread asked if any of us has an issue with a female in the workplace where we were harassed, i shared my story even knowing miserable cretins like you would use it against me
if you thought it was just me "drawing attention to myself" why are you giving me attention? like i said take a look in the mirror
this all stems from my comment on dorian, which you then replied that you were "done" with me but obviously you were full of shit on that lol so yeah why wouldn't i keep bringing that up? you give me shit for being a big fan of one bodybuilder yet you can't take criticism of another
read what i say TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR
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the thread asked if any of us has an issue with a female in the workplace where we were harassed, i shared my story even knowing miserable cretins like you would use it against me
if you thought it was just me "drawing attention to myself" why are you giving me attention? like i said take a look in the mirror
this all stems from my comment on dorian, which you then replied that you were "done" with me but obviously you were full of shit on that lol so yeah why wouldn't i keep bringing that up? you give me shit for being a big fan of one bodybuilder yet you can't take criticism of another
read what i say TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR
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Because you replied to me, so I can reply to you. See how that works?
And, what's with the all caps? There's no need to shout your point if you have a good one.
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Because you replied to me, so I can reply to you. See how that works?
And, what's with the all caps? There's no need to shout your point if you have a good one.
you said you were done, me replying back should've made no difference if you were a man of your word ;)
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you said you were done, me replying back should've made no difference if you were a man of your word ;)
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Within reason, yeah.
But you have this habit of going from a punch on the shoulder to counting the magazines for your AR-15 and sliding a scope onto the rail behind the barrel in the next scene. Those kind of posts can't be completely overlooked.
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Not necessarily. Charm generally makes people like you, otherwise it wouldn't be charming. Bullies don't bully everyone, just those they don't feel anything to gain from, usually.
As for Trump. sure they do. There's lots of people who enjoy his speeches, fill up stadiums at his rallies (when it's no longer needed, since he's elected), and proudly wear his MAGA gear as well as donate whatever little they make to causes he supports, as well as his 2016 campaign.
You're way off track here, man. Trump is very popular and will get another term, and it has nothing to do with Hillary now or previously, as he bested other Republicans as well, all of whom weren't the other guys in blue.
Are you aware that the current rallies are part of his early campaign to get another term and also to hopefully make a difference in the mid-term elections? These rallies are needed, if he is still in office when the 2020 elections come around. That election is two years away. A lot can happen between now and then. There's also Trump's need to constantly feed his ego. These rallies are a bit like mass hysteria. Don't put too much into how people act at them and how they'll actually vote. One last thing to keep in mind, is these rallies are paid for out of our tax dollars because he's combining current business with campaign business.
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Are you aware that the current rallies are part of his early campaign to get another term and also to hopefully make a difference in the mid-term elections? These rallies are needed, if he is still in office when the 2020 elections come around. That election is two years away. A lot can happen between now and then. There's also Trump's need to constantly feed his ego. These rallies are a bit like mass hysteria. Don't put too much into how people act at them and how they'll actually vote. One last thing to keep in mind, is these rallies are paid for out of our tax dollars because he's combining current business with campaign business.
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Within reason, yeah.
But you have this habit of going from a punch on the shoulder to counting the magazines for your AR-15 and sliding a scope onto the rail behind the barrel in the next scene. Those kind of posts can't be completely overlooked.
i support gun control, so need to worry about me
worry about yourself, remember the MIRROR ;)
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i support gun control, so need to worry about me
worry about yourself, remember the MIRROR ;)
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Like most people I usually do that in the morning. Should I get in my time machine and do it again or can I just post in this thread and stay in topic instead?
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Are you aware that the current rallies are part of his early campaign to get another term and also to hopefully make a difference in the mid-term elections? These rallies are needed, if he is still in office when the 2020 elections come around. That election is two years away. A lot can happen between now and then. There's also Trump's need to constantly feed his ego. These rallies are a bit like mass hysteria. Don't put too much into how people act at them and how they'll actually vote. One last thing to keep in mind, is these rallies are paid for out of our tax dollars because he's combining current business with campaign business.
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arnold's life > trump's life
just look at their demeanor even before trump took office
arnold always positive and alpha while trump is always moody and confrontational
arnold is a rags to riches story while trump was born into wealth, yet trump is the insecure guy with a major chip on his shoulder always feeling like he has something to prove
as he always has and always will, arnold wins
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I just want to see their daughters Katherine and Ivanka wrestle each other
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Compared to Trump, Arnold is a great bodybuilder and a fine actor. Other than those two "talents", the Oak is a sapling compared to President Trump.
Fuck Arnold for being a RINO and a kuntlette of one at that. His legacy as the greatest bodybuilder of all time is cemented in time. But...He's a socialist cucktard now and so on anything other than bodybuilding he can go intercourse himself.
Arnold is loved by the whole world for the past 40 years .... that's a bit impressive , even in Iraq, there's gyms all over with motherfucking posters of the Austrian Oak goddammit ! (Piana's voice)
Trump is loved by Republicans" only ...... The man is despised everywhere he goes.
Now , lets get back to the Topic < will Arnold choose bb if he was 20 today ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHH
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arnold's life > trump's life
just look at their demeanor even before trump took office
arnold always positive and alpha while trump is always moody and confrontational
arnold is a rags to riches story while trump was born into wealth, yet trump is the insecure guy with a major chip on his shoulder always feeling like he has something to prove
as he always has and always will, arnold wins
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well one is President & the other is a wanna be President. Arnold has not got the Brains to be President.
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same as Arnold´s acting Career, sure he made lots of dough but a real Actor he never was. Same as his Governor Job. Sometime he got to admit OK i was Arnold the big Bodybuilder but anything else ...average or below.
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well one is President & the other is a wanna be President. Arnold has not got the Brains to be President.
he has the brains, he wasn't born in this country
arnold would've destroyed trump in an election, right or wrong that's what would happen
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Arnold got fired from the Apprentice so Trump is greater.
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Arnold got fired from the Apprentice so Trump is greater.
Arnold is a gifted relationship-builder, social climber, innovator (bodybuilding, tough man roles - all of which he pioneered) and all around larger-than-life superhero character on and off the screen.
But he's not Presidential material and never will be. On stage with 9 seasoned Republicans 2 years ago, he'd have been crushed rhetorically and intellectually. It's one thing to impress the hell out of an audience when you're a guest speaker or signing autographs; it's another to convince 40-50 million people to cast their vote for you after two years of endless campaigning, media assassination initiatives across every major network and news outlet, fighting off 9+ Republican candidates, and beating the most formidable Democrat contender available who has 30+ experience in politics, 8 of them in the White House.
Trump is a phenomenon that only comes along once every 100 years because of what he did in 2016. Prior to that, I'd have said he was just a sharp businessman who rebuilt himself after badly-timed investments and credit-based spending that didn't pan out, and a great entertainer.
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Arnold is a gifted relationship-builder, social climber, innovator (bodybuilding, tough man roles - all of which he pioneered) and all around larger-than-life superhero character on and off the screen.
But he's not Presidential material and never will be. On stage with 9 seasoned Republicans 2 years ago, he'd have been crushed rhetorically and intellectually. It's one thing to impress the hell out of an audience when you're a guest speaker or signing autographs; it's another to convince 40-50 million people to cast their vote for you after two years of endless campaigning, media assassination initiatives across every major network and news outlet, fighting off 9+ Republican candidates, and beating the most formidable Democrat contender available who has 30+ experience in politics, 8 of them in the White House.
Trump is a phenomenon that only comes along once every 100 years because of what he did in 2016. Prior to that, I'd have said he was just a sharp businessman who rebuilt himself after badly-timed investments and credit-based spending that didn't pan out, and a great entertainer.
Agree.
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he has the brains, he wasn't born in this country
arnold would've destroyed trump in an election, right or wrong that's what would happen
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*SNICKER*
Surely you jest. Yes. I just called you "surely".
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In terms of individual accomplishments, Arnold has accomplished more in diverse fields when compared to Trump.
Arnold's accomplishments:
1) Business
2) Politics
3) Bodybuilding/Fitness
4) Movie Star
Trump's accomplishments:
1) Business
2) Politics
Not to mention that Arnold came over from Austria and as an immigrant and made it.
On the other hand, Trump built an empire and is worth billions and probably acquired one of the most important jobs ever (President).
At this point, it's splitting hairs between who is more successful.
Both are successful in their own right.
Arnold is still Numero Uno when it comes to bodybuilding.
It just doesn't get better than this in terms of bodybuilding!!!!
(http://keepfitkingdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-Keep-Fit-Kingdom-Keep-Fit-Kingdom-770x472-2.jpg)
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In terms of individual accomplishments, Arnold has accomplished more in diverse fields when compared to Trump.
Arnold's accomplishments:
1) Business
2) Politics
3) Bodybuilding/Fitness
4) Movie Star
Trump's accomplishments:
Trump : President end of discussion
1) Business
2) Politics
Not to mention that Arnold came over from Austria and as an immigrant and made it.
On the other hand, Trump built an empire and is worth billions and probably acquired one of the most important jobs ever (President).
At this point, it's splitting hairs between who is more successful.
Both are successful in their own right.
Arnold is still Numero Uno when it comes to bodybuilding.
It just doesn't get better than this in terms of bodybuilding!!!!
(http://keepfitkingdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-Keep-Fit-Kingdom-Keep-Fit-Kingdom-770x472-2.jpg)
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He may not be eligible to become come president,...but he could become a Senator...
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you know "charm" as well as i know rocket science, creepy stalker upset because i don't like that dorian pic
oh and wannabe shooters like you all support trump, like i said projection ;)
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and you are right about the Dorian pic as well. 8)
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Because you replied to me, so I can reply to you. See how that works?
And, what's with the all caps? There's no need to shout your point if you have a good one.
Is that what you do? Go around much and tell everyone how they scream or use caps or exclamation points?!!
Hahaha! Trolling hard?.
You sound like Uranus after his genitals got cut of by Cronus.
Go on now Mr. MAGA balls deep.
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I don't think this could happen today simply because not only was Arnold right for the times, but the times were right for Arnold.
Some eras if you will, are better than others and each has their own rising (and falling) star(s). Across the time belt, others shine brighter and rightly so. Insofar as bodybuilding, none have affected so many as did Arnold, not even Steve Reeves. And certainly not Coleman, Haney, Dorian and most definitley not the mighty midget, Phil.
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In terms of individual accomplishments, Arnold has accomplished more in diverse fields when compared to Trump.
Arnold's accomplishments:
1) Business
2) Politics
3) Bodybuilding/Fitness
4) Movie Star
Trump's accomplishments:
1) Business
2) Politics
Not to mention that Arnold came over from Austria and as an immigrant and made it.
On the other hand, Trump built an empire and is worth billions and probably acquired one of the most important jobs ever (President).
At this point, it's splitting hairs between who is more successful.
Both are successful in their own right.
Arnold is still Numero Uno when it comes to bodybuilding.
It just doesn't get better than this in terms of bodybuilding!!!!
(http://keepfitkingdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-Keep-Fit-Kingdom-Keep-Fit-Kingdom-770x472-2.jpg)
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Compared to Trump Arnold is like an successful artist.
Trump did great as well. Just like you said, no way about it.
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Is that what you do? Go around much and tell everyone how they scream or use caps or exclamation points?!!
Hahaha! Trolling hard?.
You sound like Uranus after his genitals got cut of by Cronus.
Go on now Mr. MAGA balls deep.
Nothing in this spurious post was either readable nor made sense. You also quoted the wrong post, since I told you that you sounded feminine and hysterical in another one more recent than this one.
I'm going to assume the usual and you're nether_animal, which would explain both the misquotation and the poor grammar.
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and you are right about the Dorian pic as well. 8)
What part? If you're going to piggyback on someone else's posts, at least have the courtesy to let the rest of us know what breakthroughs in perceptive reasoning and bodybuilder physique criticisms your unique insight into that conversation from 2 days ago allowed you to discover that we didn't.
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I don't think this could happen today simply because not only was Arnold right for the times, but the times were right for Arnold.
Some eras if you will, are better than others and each has their own rising (and falling) star(s). Across the time belt, others shine brighter and rightly so. Insofar as bodybuilding, none have affected so many as did Arnold, not even Steve Reeves. And certainly not Coleman, Haney, Dorian and most definitley not the mighty midget, Phil.
Arnold will always be the greatest Bodybuilder. Always. Haney was the last of the great.
Dorian is responsible for all the crap that came after. That is a fact. Arnold said that and Dorian is still mad about it, today! (Joe Rogan interview).
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What part? If you're going to piggyback on someone else's posts, at least have the courtesy to let the rest of us know what breakthroughs in perceptive reasoning and bodybuilder physique criticisms your unique insight into that conversation from 2 days ago allowed you to discover that we didn't.
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Nothing in this spurious post was either readable nor made sense. You also quoted the wrong post, since I told you that you sounded feminine and hysterical in another one more recent than this one.
I'm going to assume the usual and you're nether_animal, which would explain both the misquotation and the poor grammar.
Hahahaha! Son you better lay of the drugs!
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Arnold will always be the greatest Bodybuilder. Always. Haney was the last of the great.
Dorian is responsible for all the crap that came after. That is a fact. Arnold said that and Dorian is still mad about it, today! (Joe Rogan interview).
Not what Arnold stated. Arnold commented on Dorian not doing enough to promote the sport that he wins the title and just takes back off to England. Also commented on bodybuilders at the time in general not dressing for success wearing gym gear all the time.
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Hahahaha! Son you better lay of the drugs!
Care to elaborate or amplify on this statement? Not getting much substance from you in these posts; it seems to be mostly ad hominems and grade school name-calling all because I asked you why you overuse exclamation marks.
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Not what Arnold stated. Arnold commented on Dorian not doing enough to promote the sport that he wins the title and just takes back off to England. Also commented on bodybuilders at the time in general not dressing for success wearing gym gear all the time.
This guy has a serious problem with misquoting people. Arnold has never disrespected any bodybuilder on a public forum, let alone one that won the Olympia almost as many times as himself.
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Not what Arnold stated. Arnold commented on Dorian not doing enough to promote the sport that he wins the title and just takes back off to England. Also commented on bodybuilders at the time in general not dressing for success wearing gym gear all the time.
You are right about that, he did say that as well as many other things. On Joe Rogan's podcast Dorian talks about it himself! I never heard it from Arnold's mouth but Dorians! Arnold blamed Dorian for ruining bodybuilding.
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You are right about that, he did say that as well as many other things. On Joe Rogan's podcast Dorian talks about it himself! I never heard it from Arnold's mouth but Dorians! Arnold blamed Dorian for ruining bodybuilding.
I've watched that podcast , I don't recall hearing that. Post the footage?
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This guy has a serious problem with misquoting people. Arnold has never disrespected any bodybuilder on a public forum, let alone one that won the Olympia almost as many times as himself.
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at 1:10 Ok pal?
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This guy has a serious problem with misquoting people. Arnold has never disrespected any bodybuilder on a public forum, let alone one that won the Olympia almost as many times as himself.
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Again where did he blame Dorian " for ruining bodybuilding? " I have the interview from Flex he never stated Dorian " ruined bodybuilding " that's just not accurate
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Again where did he blame Dorian " for ruining bodybuilding? " I have the interview from Flex he never stated Dorian " ruined bodybuilding " that's just not accurate
https://generationiron.com/watch-dorian-yates-responds-arnolds-cri
“Schwarzenegger attacked modern bodybuilding… and myself as the leader of modern bodybuilding.”
This interview was conducted in 2013 – but there was a small bit within the hour long interview that still holds interesting today.
Hahaha! "Arnold attacked Dorian as the leader of modern bodybuilding"! :o
I don't think its a complement either. I have to listen the entire podcast its 3 hours or something but I find it.
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Arnold at his best would destroy the current crop of pros. The crowd would demand his victory standing side by side with these soft bloated champs.
Only if the judges allowed it.
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This guy has a serious problem with misquoting people. Arnold has never disrespected any bodybuilder on a public forum, let alone one that won the Olympia almost as many times as himself.
at 1:10 Ok pal?
If you're going to quote someone, learn to do it correctly. You can't even figure out how to use this message board, so why would anyone listen to links you post?
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https://generationiron.com/watch-dorian-yates-responds-arnolds-cri
“Schwarzenegger attacked modern bodybuilding… and myself as the leader of modern bodybuilding.”
This interview was conducted in 2013 – but there was a small bit within the hour long interview that still holds interesting today.
Hahaha! "Arnold attacked Dorian as the leader of modern bodybuilding"! :o
I don't think its a complement either. I have to listen the entire podcast its 3 hours or something but I find it.
Not what you said , you said " he ruined bodybuilding "
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he would probably be deported from the US as an illegal immigrant
He came over on a visa and then became a US citiizen. So no.
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https://generationiron.com/watch-dorian-yates-responds-arnolds-cri
“Schwarzenegger attacked modern bodybuilding… and myself as the leader of modern bodybuilding.”
This interview was conducted in 2013 – but there was a small bit within the hour long interview that still holds interesting today.
Hahaha! "Arnold attacked Dorian as the leader of modern bodybuilding"! :o
I don't think its a complement either. I have to listen the entire podcast its 3 hours or something but I find it.
dorians response is weak. Arnold was putting forth the argument that dorian is the guy who started the nonsense we see today with the all out pursuit of mass while having the waistline grow and grow, and well, is he wrong? Dorian WAS that guy towards the end of his career. They all followed in kind.
dorians response to that criticism is "u dont even know me bro!" ::) Love me some Yates, but come the fuck on what a weak counterargument.