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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2018, 07:11:10 PM »
Nope, he tried using muscle for the Hercules in New York movie and it got him nowhere. His next movie was almost 10 years later. That he needed his massive drug-enhanced physique for the roles given to him due to his limited range is another point - there were heaps of BBers, including his old friend Franco, who only got bit parts or no calls at all from agents. As always, knowing the right people gets you ahead of people who know nobody, and who nobody knows.

He needed the Shrivers to get into Hollywood, and he got them.

is he cast as conan or the terminator without muscle?  no he is not and those are the movies that put him on the map well before he even met maria

most actors aren't A list after their first movie

franco is the height of an average woman, doesn't have the charisma, and his accent is not cool like arnold's

he probably only got a chance at all because he knew arnold

arnold without bodybuilding is still living in austria whether it's the 60's or today

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2018, 07:16:24 PM »
I somehow doubt it.  I wonder what endeavour he would have pursued?  Maybe crossfit?

better question...who gives a shit?

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2018, 12:36:51 AM »
I disagree about the maid.  While she most certainly was hit with the ugly stick, Miss Shriver was much uglier and the maid had much bigger and better tits.  Plus, I find that the bigger ones do way more stuff.

That's because you're a tit man. Some guys like butts, some like tits and a few like faces and personality.  As for ladies with big mammaries doing more stuff, you undoubtedly have a lot more experience with this than I do, so I can't confirm or deny it.  ;D

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2018, 12:46:56 AM »
better question...who gives a shit?

Clearly the people in this thread.  Including you... 

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2018, 03:17:18 AM »
I somehow doubt it.  I wonder what endeavour he would have pursued?  Maybe crossfit?

If Arnold was born in 1998 in Austria and was 20 today he'd probably be a regular dude.

His father wouldn't have been in the Nazi party and not as strict , and Reg Park wouldn't be an inspiration and he wouldn't have strongmen, weightlifters and bodybuilders on posters in his room.


He'd probably be a liberal or maybe working in IT or sales.
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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2018, 03:40:50 PM »
and in your case, you liked neither, hence your sexual u-turn after the old bag bit the dust

Tell me more about my life. You seem to believe you are an expert on it.  ::)

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2018, 10:53:39 PM »
No way! If he would choose competitive sports I would say Mixed Marshal Arts!
MMA is fairly new or at least the "UFC" is still growing fast. I think to get started and make a name for himself its definitely a good chance to compete in MMA or the "UFC. Sort of like McGregor. It's well known he loves the sport. Its like in the 70s when there was still room to get Super Stardom!
In Bb that time has come and gone but the UFC has still room to expand. With his Charisma and build he could pull it of!
Of course only if he would come from a working class background. But who really knows..lol

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2018, 12:29:53 AM »
No way! If he would choose competitive sports I would say Mixed Marshal Arts!
MMA is fairly new or at least the "UFC" is still growing fast. I think to get started and make a name for himself its definitely a good chance to compete in MMA or the "UFC. Sort of like McGregor. It's well known he loves the sport. Its like in the 70s when there was still room to get Super Stardom!
In Bb that time has come and gone but the UFC has still room to expand. With his Charisma and build he could pull it of!
Of course only if he would come from a working class background. But who really knows..lol

I actually don't think he would be an athlete or into sports at all, he'd probably be a businessman 25+.

I think the main reason he was so competitive back then was due to his harsh upbringing and strict father, combined with that he saw a Reg Park-Hercules movie back then.

Growing up now you don't see that, instead you get All female Ghostbusters and whatnot, and his upbringing wouldn't be as hard either.

His father wouldn't be in the Nazi Party either. He'd probably grow up in an easier household with a better economy.

Easy Life = Not as hard a man.

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2018, 02:27:29 AM »
I actually don't think he would be an athlete or into sports at all, he'd probably be a businessman 25+.

I think the main reason he was so competitive back then was due to his harsh upbringing and strict father, combined with that he saw a Reg Park-Hercules movie back then.

Growing up now you don't see that, instead you get All female Ghostbusters and whatnot, and his upbringing wouldn't be as hard either.

His father wouldn't be in the Nazi Party either. He'd probably grow up in an easier household with a better economy.

Easy Life = Not as hard a man.


Very true!
But he still is Arnold, so he wanted always to be the best in something. In the early days it was sports! That's why he chose Bb because he didn't have to relay on anyone else but himself!
Competition in sports is a big part of growing up and he could still be very good in it. But yes of course he is a smart guy so maybe he would be a business man !Look at his Nephew Patrick Knapp, he is a Lawyer. But we will never know except that he was the greatest Bodybuilder ever and at one point the highest paid actor in the world! Oh and the Governor of Cali.!loll He has done pretty much everything anyway. Good for him.

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« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2018, 05:23:49 AM »
explain how it was a path to being a movie star 50 years ago when even the simple act of exercise was considered bizarre?

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Again , back then Arnold was the only 250 pounds , tall young BBer ...he got the roll of Herculers movies for that same reason ......today , there's a bunch of bodybuilders with those features and speak fluent english ...Arnold  wouldn't stand a chance in 2018 (not that fast/young at least ) .....


As bizarre as you might think BB  was perceived ....Arnold was featured nationwide in  printed magazines  (in full color ) running around at the beautiful beaches of cali with beautiful girls all over him .......we were naive as hell and thought the life style was fun and you didn't need to inject drugs, etc  .......  yes, it was 50 years ago I know ....


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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2018, 06:50:31 AM »
Again arnold was a millionaire before acting through real estate, so already rich and successful businessman.

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2018, 07:32:06 AM »
Again arnold was a millionaire before acting through real estate, so already rich and successful businessman.

And?

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2018, 07:39:31 AM »
Arnold ould claim natty, by o'hearn standarts.

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2018, 07:41:05 AM »
Again arnold was a millionaire before acting through real estate, so already rich and successful businessman.

Again, he wouldn't be a bodybuilder if he was 20 years today.
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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2018, 10:30:06 PM »
Again, he wouldn't be a bodybuilder if he was 20 years today.

Again, no way! Sports maybe but not Bb!

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2018, 10:33:11 PM »
Yeah, but there were guys bigger than Arnold who could probably act as cool as him or better, not to mention he took classes to get rid of his accent until he figured out it was his biggest asset. The Kennedy family opened the doors to him, muscle or not. I already mentioned his physique made him who he was, but it didn't get him the roles in the first place. In the late 70s he was selling his bodybuilding bible and catalog order business of him using leg extension machines. Why would he bother with that if his career was off and running? Give credit to him where it's due but don't oversell this guy, he's no genius except when it came to relationship-building, and that's all anyone really needs to make it in their field of choice. It's why even Arnold's assist to get Kevin in Redline didn't result in a film career for the man, despite the fact that he's obviously more handsome and sellable than Arnold was at the same age.

nobody could be as cool as arnold, which is why we haven't seen anybody like him before or after his prime years

he auditioned to be kyle reese in terminator, james cameron looked at his body and said he should be the terminator when his initial plans was for the terminator to blend in and look like a normal person

i'm well aware many people are successful because of their connections, it's often who you know not what you know

but i think it's a bit of  sore losers attitude to think a guy that came from nothing in austria largely got to where he is today based on knowing the right people, no connections can make somebody that cool and likable, his physique is still the most popular and no it isn't because of his movies he  was tall and had shape and aesthetics that are largely unmatched to this day

if he was just another guy with connections he would be as relevant today as dolph lundgren, a guy that had some success in the 80's and then pretty much disappeared

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2018, 10:33:41 PM »
He had a couple of million, not 700 million. Real estate doesn't make you wealthy unless you're in Trump's league.

Funny every dip shit these days are a real estate agent hahahaha

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2018, 10:40:40 PM »

Again , back then Arnold was the only 250 pounds , tall young BBer ...he got the roll of Herculers movies for that same reason ......today , there's a bunch of bodybuilders with those features and speak fluent english ...Arnold  wouldn't stand a chance in 2018 (not that fast/young at least ) .....


As bizarre as you might think BB  was perceived ....Arnold was featured nationwide in  printed magazines  (in full color ) running around at the beautiful beaches of cali with beautiful girls all over him .......we were naive as hell and thought the life style was fun and you didn't need to inject drugs, etc  .......  yes, it was 50 years ago I know ....


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doesn't matter if they have his features, can you name any bodybuilder or muscle man that had his charisma?  

the only one arguable is the rock and no coincidence he is now the highest paid actor of all time and he had tons of connections in wrestling

his connections in wrestling did not make him a super star in hollywood, hulk hogan tried acting too and it didn't work

a lot of guys are jacked, you won't find many guys that are jacked and have charisma of arnold and that is why he was a superstar

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2018, 11:06:43 PM »
doesn't matter if they have his features, can you name any bodybuilder or muscle man that had his charisma?  

the only one arguable is the rock and no coincidence he is now the highest paid actor of all time and he had tons of connections in wrestling

his connections in wrestling did not make him a super star in hollywood, hulk hogan tried acting too and it didn't work

a lot of guys are jacked, you won't find many guys that are jacked and have charisma of arnold and that is why he was a superstar

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For sure! He also picked the right roles on the beginning so he didn't disappoint. As he got bigger and people started to support his acting, it just grew! So did his roles and payday! He won a Golden Globe 1977! As best acting debut in a Motion Picture. lol! Most people dont even know that!
He was just a very likeable guy with a personality bigger then life! That was his true talent!
Or Charisma!

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2018, 12:30:10 AM »
For sure! He also picked the right roles on the beginning so he didn't disappoint. As he got bigger and people started to support his acting, it just grew! So did his roles and payday! He won a Golden Globe 1977! As best acting debut in a Motion Picture. lol! Most people dont even know that!
He was just a very likeable guy with a personality bigger then life! That was his true talent!
Or Charisma!


Perhaps 'the Rock' is following in Arnold's footsteps.

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2018, 03:49:12 AM »
So he wouldn't have chosen to look like a bloated pig like they do these days. 
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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2018, 07:56:20 PM »
He had a couple of million, not 700 million. Real estate doesn't make you wealthy unless you're in Trump's league.

Arnold was a self made man who came from a far away shithole   , Trump was the son of a millionaire. 

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2018, 08:13:45 PM »
Arnold would be up in dem clubs homie!

Would probably be a DJ turnin a few knobs makin' paper!
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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #48 on: July 24, 2018, 05:14:54 AM »
Arnold was a millionaire from real estate before the movies, so he was successful anyway

No he wasn't.  That's all BS.

He got a small stipend from Joe Weider and made only a small amounts from his Olympia wins.  The purses were very small.  As far as the bricklayer nonsense and real estate investments, where would he have gotten the money to invest?  Selling bodybuilding mail order courses?  Some money but not a lot.  He didn't make any serious money in those years.  

He didn't start cashing in until 1984 with Conan the Destroyer (Conan 2) and Terminator.

His career movie earnings are well over $200 million.  

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000216/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm#salary

Salary:

Hercules in New York (1970)    $12,000
Conan the Barbarian (1982)    $250,000
Conan the Destroyer (1984)    $1,000,000
The Terminator (1984)    $750,000
Commando (1985)    $1,500,000
Predator (1987)    $3,000,000
The Running Man (1987)    $5,000,000
Red Heat (1988)    $8,000,000
Total Recall (1990)    $10,000,000
Kindergarten Cop (1990)    $12,000,000
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)    $15,000,000
Last Action Hero (1993)    $15,000,000
True Lies (1994)    $15,000,000
Junior (1994)    $15,000,000
Eraser (1996)    $20,000,000
Jingle All the Way (1996)    $20,000,000
Batman & Robin (1997)    $25,000,000
End of Days (1999)    $22,000,000
The 6th Day (2000)    $25,000,000
Collateral Damage (2002)    $25,000,000
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003)    $29,250,000
The Last Stand (2013)    $5,000,000 +25% of first dollar

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Re: If Arnold was 20 years old today, would he choose pro bodybuilding?
« Reply #49 on: July 24, 2018, 06:28:34 AM »
doesn't matter if they have his features, can you name any bodybuilder or muscle man that had his charisma?  

the only one arguable is the rock and no coincidence he is now the highest paid actor of all time and he had tons of connections in wrestling

his connections in wrestling did not make him a super star in hollywood, hulk hogan tried acting too and it didn't work

a lot of guys are jacked, you won't find many guys that are jacked and have charisma of arnold and that is why he was a superstar

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Exactly why I think a young Arnold wouldn't be chasing a pro card today...  with the mindset ,charisma  "barracuda mode" and no uncle Joe around ...... nothing to look for in this "sport" .



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