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He should join UFC, he'd be champ in no time.
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That's jiu jitsu not wing chun.
Simple finger lock.
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He should join UFC, he'd be champ in no time.
There's a reason Wing Chun practitioners don't compete in MMA, these tactics mainly work on non-skilled fighters, if a boxer or muay thai fighter went against this guy, he'd probably have his dick in the dirt.
That's jiu jitsu not wing chun.
Simple finger lock.
Wing Chun has elements of all fighting skills, but BJJ is obviously just grappling and way more efficient, most fighting forms have some joint manipulation.
Wing Chun was invented by a little woman, Jeet Kune Do is Bruce Lee's variation of Wing Chun and a better form of fighting, and although this skill will help you it will not be as effective against someone who knows what they're doing.
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There's a reason Wing Chun practitioners don't compete in MMA, these tactics mainly work on non-skilled fighters, if a boxer or muay thai fighter went against this guy, he'd probably have his dick in the dirt.
Wing Chun has elements of all fighting skills, but BJJ is obviously just grappling and way more efficient, most fighting forms have some joint manipulation.
Wing Chun was invented by a little woman, Jeet Kune Do is Bruce Lee's variation of Wing Chun and a better form of fighting, and although this skill will help you it will not be as effective against someone who knows what they're doing.
Here is part 1, what you saw was part 2. Admittedly, most people are non-skilled fighters. Especially, bodybuilders.
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Here is part 1, what you saw was part 2. Admittedly, most people are non-skilled fighters. Especially, bodybuilders.
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That's true, but if it was a real fight (in which it is not in the video) the bodybuilder would go all out (and having more muscle get gassed real quick) but the size difference alone is a pretty good advantage, no doubt the wing chun master would kick his ass though, but in a real fight there is always the factor of luck.
Have you seen the video of the bodybuilder that got killed by the mma fighter?
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There's a reason Wing Chun practitioners don't compete in MMA, these tactics mainly work on non-skilled fighters, if a boxer or muay thai fighter went against this guy, he'd probably have his dick in the dirt.
Any traditional martial art that goes up against a combat sport where people are training to beat other people with training is going to come up short. Doesn't matter whether it's wing chun, japanese jujtsu, some karate styles .....they're were never designed for mutually agreed upon combat. Muay thai, boxing, wrestling.....you're constantly trying to be better than the guy doing what you're doing. Of course these arts are going to have a clear advantage.
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Any traditional martial art that goes up against a combat sport where people are training to beat other people with training is going to come up short. Doesn't matter whether it's wing chun, japanese jujtsu, some karate styles .....they're were never designed for mutually agreed upon combat. Muay thai, boxing, wrestling.....you're constantly trying to be better than the guy doing what you're doing. Of course these arts are going to have a clear advantage.
Yeah, exactly. Also another bullshit martial art is Aikido, watch the video of the MMA guy vs Aikido
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What’s this goofy xxx doing wasting all that time in an alley?
He should be prepping chicken balls or something back at he buffet.
You really are something man ;D every other comment is about race haha, if it’s not about Muslims, it’s hebrews, etc
Is it really that serious?
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Yeah, exactly. Also another bullshit martial art is Aikido, watch the video of the MMA guy vs Aikido
the ironic thing is all these guys that are obsessed with trying to disprove traditional martial artists are pretty shit at what they practice. This chinese guy for example, there is another video where he is sparring with some kickboxers and he is getting fucking thrashed, completely outclassed.
it reminded me of an old internet community called bullshido. Their whole mission was to disprove bullshit martial artists, but there was kind of underlying hostility and maliciousness to it, which didnt sit well with me when you realized these guys were fucking trash while lording over the pretend martial artists. They had these pair of skeletor twins who lorded it up like they were expert Nak Muays, and i tell you right now, ive had amateur boxers ive trained for 6 months who wouldve ran through these twits who has supposedly been training for a decade.
There just something a little bit snake like about it that rubs me the wrong way... they're going for the low hanging fruit. You will never see one of these guys walk into a Sanda gym or a Shuai Jiao gym and tell them "oh your kung fu doesnt work" because they know they'll be matched up with a real athlete who will kick them in their fucking head or slam them into the ground with little effort.
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Yeah, exactly. Also another bullshit martial art is Aikido, watch the video of the MMA guy vs Aikido
While you are thinking another stupid thing to say, let me point out little detail: MMA = Mixed Martial Arts = combination of variety of these so called bullshit martial arts, which have been usefull enough somewhat hudreds of years, but which has lost interest of the people because of these new "sports". Fact is that any fking blue belt aikido child would beat you silly at any day of the week with his/hers bullshit martial arts skills, because you don't have any skills at all ;D
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Without the old Traditional Martial Arts, we would never have MMA.
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Punch to the throat or eye strike would have put the big guy down permanently.
Self-defense is easy.
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Parker,
I was reminded of this individual:
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You really are something man ;D every other comment is about race haha, if it’s not about Muslims, it’s hebrews, etc
Is it really that serious?
It’s a good time, yeah.
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While you are thinking another stupid thing to say, let me point out little detail: MMA = Mixed Martial Arts = combination of variety of these so called bullshit martial arts, which have been usefull enough somewhat hudreds of years, but which has lost interest of the people because of these new "sports". Fact is that any fking blue belt aikido child would beat you silly at any day of the week with his/hers bullshit martial arts skills, because you don't have any skills at all ;D
Lol
I'm not saying that it isn't effective but it's bullshit for practical applications in real life. If you are in a martial art where you don't spar, maybe it's not the best for actual situations and aikido is one of those.
The guy in the is an aikido black belt I believe. Are you mad because you wasted all this money on aikido?
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Master Wong.....the non stop talking sifu. He actually talks that much during real training, according to my mate. Personally, I think it would take some very tough bastard to take him down. And WingChun is very good, when fighting another wingChun practitioner. As mentioned in previous posts, the handspeed of a boxer/muayThai would most times overwhelm traditional styles. Unless you are a bad ass, funny guy like master Wong.
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the ironic thing is all these guys that are obsessed with trying to disprove traditional martial artists are pretty shit at what they practice. This chinese guy for example, there is another video where he is sparring with some kickboxers and he is getting fucking thrashed, completely outclassed.
it reminded me of an old internet community called bullshido. Their whole mission was to disprove bullshit martial artists, but there was kind of underlying hostility and maliciousness to it, which didnt sit well with me when you realized these guys were fucking trash while lording over the pretend martial artists. They had these pair of skeletor twins who lorded it up like they were expert Nak Muays, and i tell you right now, ive had amateur boxers ive trained for 6 months who wouldve ran through these twits who has supposedly been training for a decade.
There just something a little bit snake like about it that rubs me the wrong way... they're going for the low hanging fruit. You will never see one of these guys walk into a Sanda gym or a Shuai Jiao gym and tell them "oh your kung fu doesnt work" because they know they'll be matched up with a real athlete who will kick them in their fucking head or slam them into the ground with little effort.
Actually, that Chinese dude does try to disprove traditional Chinese Martial Arts is not good against MMA. In fact, here is a vid, which proves what it. He breaks down the Tai Chi Master vs MMA Fighter, and he says that Tai Chi is not designed for combat.
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Everybody Wang Chung tonight
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Everybody Orange Chicken tonight, it’s on Ron!!
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Actually, that Chinese dude does try to disprove traditional Chinese Martial Arts is not good against MMA. In fact, here is a vid, which proves what it. He breaks down the Tai Chi Master vs MMA Fighter, and he says that Tai Chi is not designed for combat.
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no no you completely misunderstood what i was saying
the chinese dude (xu xiaoduong) in these videos beating up on all the traditional goofy fucks, is a MMArtist. The problem is, he's completely mediocre at mma. Theres another video where this guy is getting lit the fuck up by no-name kickboxers, to the point where he is now sporting a rather nice gash over his eye.
this is a common theme with people who get obsessed with trying to "disprove" the traditional martial arts, they are usually guys who can't achieve anything in their own sports so they set out to pick on low hanging fruit. And even worse is they are very deceitful; they are always very careful about who they pick to "expose".
Hence why i used the example of you will NEVER see one of these guys going into a Sanda/sanshou gym and saying "oh kung fu doesn't work you're all phonies" because he'll get knocked the fuck out and it will be all over youtube by the end of the day. Theres plenty of TMA guys that actively train in a realistic manner, and even compete in full contact events, so why aren't they being put to the test by these brave warriors? Because they're not brave at all.
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Lol
I'm not saying that it isn't effective but it's bullshit for practical applications in real life. If you are in a martial art where you don't spar, maybe it's not the best for actual situations and aikido is one of those.
The guy in the is an aikido black belt I believe. Are you mad because you wasted all this money on aikido?
So you didn't understand that all modern fight-sports are based on traditional martial arts, which by your claim are bullshit, while what you see at these times is the evolution of the martial arts as a sport. And without evolution you would be even more like an ape you are now, so have a little respect for the evolution ;D
In these videos you should understand one little detail: you don't have any reasonable way to know what is de facto level of expertises of these opponents. If you want to make a video where bullshit martial arts moron get his ass kicked by below of average MMA fighter, who you choose to be your opponent: Moron who has aikido- pyjamas, some yellow belt first timer, or real life master of the art, which humiliates you without any effort at all? You have to realize that there is an agenda which this so called MMA guy is selling to spectators, and they wouldn't buy it if the MMA guy loses ;D
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So you didn't understand that all modern fight-sports are based on traditional martial arts, which by your claim are bullshit, while what you see at these times is the evolution of the martial arts as a sport. And without evolution you would be even more like an ape you are now, so have a little respect for the evolution ;D
In these videos you should understand one little detail: you don't have any reasonable way to know what is de facto level of expertises of these opponents. If you want to make a video where bullshit martial arts moron get his ass kicked by below of average MMA fighter, who you choose to be your opponent: Moron who has aikido- pyjamas, some yellow belt first timer, or real life master of the art, which humiliates you without any effort at all? You have to realize that there is an agenda which this so called MMA guy is selling to spectators, and they wouldn't buy it if the MMA guy loses ;D
Hey, Ropo are there any Russian SAMBO clubs in Finlandistan 8)
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no no you completely misunderstood what i was saying
the chinese dude (xu xiaoduong) in these videos beating up on all the traditional goofy fucks, is a MMArtist. The problem is, he's completely mediocre at mma. Theres another video where this guy is getting lit the fuck up by no-name kickboxers, to the point where he is now sporting a rather nice gash over his eye.
this is a common theme with people who get obsessed with trying to "disprove" the traditional martial arts, they are usually guys who can't achieve anything in their own sports so they set out to pick on low hanging fruit. And even worse is they are very deceitful; they are always very careful about who they pick to "expose".
Hence why i used the example of you will NEVER see one of these guys going into a Sanda/sanshou gym and saying "oh kung fu doesn't work you're all phonies" because he'll get knocked the fuck out and it will be all over youtube by the end of the day. Theres plenty of TMA guys that actively train in a realistic manner, and even compete in full contact events, so why aren't they being put to the test by these brave warriors? Because they're not brave at all.
Now I understand what you were saying.
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The song “Everybody Wang Chun Tonight “ was always one of my favourites.
J
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The song “Everybody Wang Chun Tonight “ was always one of my favourites.
J
Rambone how many times are you going to reference it in this thread? Once is enough.
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Rambone how many times are you going to reference it in this thread? Once is enough.
Only one account here big guy
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Yeah, WTF?
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Hey, Ropo are there any Russian SAMBO clubs in Finlandistan 8)
Impressive use of brain powers, you are just as impressive as this little fellow:
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Impressive use of brain powers, you are just as impressive as this little fellow:
Mantula, be nice or I'll tell Mr.Putin to take another slice of Finland (like uncle Stalin did in 1945) 8)
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Impressive use of brain powers, you are just as impressive as this little fellow:
Jari, is it a difficult question?
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Jari, is it a difficult question?
Polar light affect Nordic people in many ways :-\
6 months of darkness & 6 months of gray sky :-\
"summer" temp 11-15'C :-[
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So you didn't understand that all modern fight-sports are based on traditional martial arts, which by your claim are bullshit, while what you see at these times is the evolution of the martial arts as a sport. And without evolution you would be even more like an ape you are now, so have a little respect for the evolution ;D
In these videos you should understand one little detail: you don't have any reasonable way to know what is de facto level of expertises of these opponents. If you want to make a video where bullshit martial arts moron get his ass kicked by below of average MMA fighter, who you choose to be your opponent: Moron who has aikido- pyjamas, some yellow belt first timer, or real life master of the art, which humiliates you without any effort at all? You have to realize that there is an agenda which this so called MMA guy is selling to spectators, and they wouldn't buy it if the MMA guy loses ;D
I'm not disrespecting anything. Does Wing Chun work? Yes, against people who may not know anything but it is not really practical because it was developed by a small woman in the past, but there is someone who developed an optimal form of her techniques called Jeet Kune Do invented by a man named Bruce Lee which would most likely be more effective. In Wing Chun you don't really practice on one another and if you do it's almost choreographed, because in real life in a street fight no one is going to just give you their arm, they are going to be very resistant and it is hard to actually fight someone when it's life or death.
Does Aikido work? Maybe against a baby. Aikido is all bullshit.
I'm not saying MMA is better than any other martial art (even though what you're implying I'm saying makes no sense because MMA is a combination of all martial arts), but it sounds like you only disagree with me because you're one of those guys who think you can only learn one martial art. Well stop listening to your sensei because in a real life or death situation things are different.
If you do Muay Thai then you should probably learn ground work, if your in Taekwondo you should get ground work and striking, if your in BJJ you should learn boxing etc.
I do respect all martial arts but what I'm saying is many are outdated and don't even have sparring which is actually what makes you learn quick and actually is effective in life or death scenarios.
I am a firm believer in studying all martial arts, and what works for you may not work for me, but the belt system has really ruined martial arts in America and has become something of a fast food chain, people care about belts rather than effectiveness; and there are many bullshit martial arts classes in which you learn a watered down art because your sensei really is a greedy fuck who wants to make money.
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I'm not disrespecting anything. Does Wing Chun work? Yes, against people who may not know anything but it is not really practical because it was developed by a small woman in the past, but there is someone who developed an optimal form of her techniques called Jeet Kune Do invented by a man named Bruce Lee which would most likely be more effective. In Wing Chun you don't really practice on one another and if you do it's almost choreographed, because in real life in a street fight no one is going to just give you their arm, they are going to be very resistant and it is hard to actually fight someone when it's life or death.
Does Aikido work? Maybe against a baby. Aikido is all bullshit.
I'm not saying MMA is better than any other martial art (even though what you're implying I'm saying makes no sense because MMA is a combination of all martial arts), but it sounds like you only disagree with me because you're one of those guys who think you can only learn one martial art. Well stop listening to your sensei because in a real life or death situation things are different.
If you do Muay Thai then you should probably learn ground work, if your in Taekwondo you should get ground work and striking, if your in BJJ you should learn boxing etc.
I do respect all martial arts but what I'm saying is many are outdated and don't even have sparring which is actually what makes you learn quick and actually is effective in life or death scenarios.
I am a firm believer in studying all martial arts, and what works for you may not work for me, but the belt system has really ruined martial arts in America and has become something of a fast food chain, people care about belts rather than effectiveness; and there are many bullshit martial arts classes in which you learn a watered down art because your sensei really is a greedy fuck who wants to make money.
I disagree with you because you are plain and simple just too stupid to have an opinion about this matter. After invention of guns all martial arts have been obsolete, they are all just bullshit against the modern weapons. Comparing martial arts which are based on kicks and punches to those which are based on locks and throws is also utterly stupid, but do you understand that? Nope, because your so called "opinion" is based on internet crap, not on knowledge of any sort. So, if all martial arts are obsolete, why bother? Because of sports and exercise, which is the point where they are all just about equal. Only morons and stupid brats are training by any other reason. There isn't any martial arts which protect you from bullets, but all of them gives you better change to get your fat ass away from the harms way, because they all teach you same thing: How to deal with stress in dangerous situations, how to grab and how to react without hesitation.
Be a man, go at the local Aikido dojo and challenge their master, and take a video to prove that aikido is bullshit? Why I know already that will not never happen? Because anonym internet brats doesn't even exist in real life ;D
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I disagree with you because you are plain and simple just too stupid to have an opinion about this matter. After invention of guns all martial arts have been obsolete, they are all just bullshit against the modern weapons. Comparing martial arts which are based on kicks and punches to those which are based on locks and throws is also utterly stupid, but do you understand that? Nope, because your so called "opinion" is based on internet crap, not on knowledge of any sort. So, if all martial arts are obsolete, why bother? Because of sports and exercise, which is the point where they are all just about equal. Only morons and stupid brats are training by any other reason. There isn't any martial arts which protect you from bullets, but all of them gives you better change to get your fat ass away from the harms way, because they all teach you same thing: How to deal with stress in dangerous situations, how to grab and how to react without hesitation.
Be a man, go at the local Aikido dojo and challenge their master, and take a video to prove that aikido is bullshit? Why I know already that will not never happen? Because anonym internet brats doesn't even exist in real life ;D
You're a very slow individual arent you? I never mentioned guns, I said all martial arts do help and you takr everything I say so personally and out of context. Seek mental help.
Also if you would like to watch that video again that is an Aikido BLACK BELT vs mma fighter and as you can see he had no attack or defense rendering aikido a bullshit martial art but you study what you prefer.
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My praying mantis style is lethal to the extreme.
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Mantula A U still planing to make Top 10 on Olympia ;D
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Mantula A U still planing to make Top 10 on Olympia ;D
Just as you are still humping legs, you tiny dork..
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You're a very slow individual arent you? I never mentioned guns, I said all martial arts do help and you takr everything I say so personally and out of context. Seek mental help.
Also if you would like to watch that video again that is an Aikido BLACK BELT vs mma fighter and as you can see he had no attack or defense rendering aikido a bullshit martial art but you study what you prefer.
What video? That one where is this self-proclaimed aikido-master from Lithuania, telling you that his aikido is bullshit against any other martial arts? Well, dear child, that is an opinion, not a fact, and there may be quite obvious agenda which makes him to do that . Maybe he is just carp at aikido, maybe he got his ass kicked by MMA guys, but who cares. Opinions are like ass holes, everyone have them..
Here is this same hero explaining that he is complete dork what comes to martial arts skills. Great source of information you have there ;D
There is also plenty of videos where competent aikido dudes are sparring against what ever martial arts heroes. Why didn't you pick one of those? Because this clown present a video which was in sync with your prejudices, that's why.
Problem with these kind of comparisons is simple: if you want to show real force, there is broken bones and blood all over the dojo. At aikido, all you really need is one good grip, and you can take limbs out from their sockets with no effort at all. If you are sparring you can't do it, so what? So aikido is bullshit, because you have to hide what you really could do. Do you understand what I mean? If you try to kick, I take you down and twist your knee another way around till it pops, and what next? Hospitals, plasters, crutches, hundreds of thousands for compensation etc. crap. ;D
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Mentula, why is Finnish city of Vyborg in Russia ;D
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What video? That one where is this self-proclaimed aikido-master from Lithuania, telling you that his aikido is bullshit against any other martial arts? Well, dear child, that is an opinion, not a fact, and there may be quite obvious agenda which makes him to do that . Maybe he is just carp at aikido, maybe he got his ass kicked by MMA guys, but who cares. Opinions are like ass holes, everyone have them..
Here is this same hero explaining that he is complete dork what comes to martial arts skills. Great source of information you have there ;D
There is also plenty of videos where competent aikido dudes are sparring against what ever martial arts heroes. Why didn't you pick one of those? Because this clown present a video which was in sync with your prejudices, that's why.
Problem with these kind of comparisons is simple: if you want to show real force, there is broken bones and blood all over the dojo. At aikido, all you really need is one good grip, and you can take limbs out from their sockets with no effort at all. If you are sparring you can't do it, so what? So aikido is bullshit, because you have to hide what you really could do. Do you understand what I mean? If you try to kick, I take you down and twist your knee another way around till it pops, and what next? Hospitals, plasters, crutches, hundreds of thousands for compensation etc. crap. ;D
Yes but in Aikido there is no sparring. Not that it is a bad martial art if applied in a real scenario I am not sure how useful it would be. Maybe you are right and the Lithuanian is full of shit.