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For a couple of years I ate everything in sight, over the last year I got my ass back into great shape but my lower abs have loose skin from when I held fat there. I've been trying skin tightening lotion and stuff but the skin just sags and is all wrinkled right in the lower part of my abs. I fucking hate it. Without needing plastic surgery has one here had this where eventually it just tightened back up again?
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For a couple of years I ate everything in sight, over the last year I got my ass back into great shape but my lower abs have loose skin from when I held fat there. I've been trying skin tightening lotion and stuff but the skin just sags and is all wrinkled right in the lower part of my abs. I fucking hate it. Without needing plastic surgery has one here had this where eventually it just tightened back up again?
Posting at getbig 24 hours a day is the real reason why you have saggy skin. Until you start doing something other than posting, your saggy skin will remain.
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Nasty a$$, you probably don't even clean between the folds.
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If below 30yo and if you have bleech white skin yes. If you get a tan easily, that kind of skin ages and sags more easily.
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Maybe, age is a factor, and I've always contented that it has to do with the amount of weight dropped. Say you're #275 and you drop to #225, you're probably safe. #350 to #200, you're going to see it, especially around the belly button. I've seen a number of SHW powerlifters come down, and you always see a little something around the belly button.
Bruce Randall is a famous example of this, in his bodybuilding days he routinely got into the high #300's then dropped to low #200's -
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9gCsXQg4YKo/T44ojao_CNI/AAAAAAAAE2w/5mQX3LDPJu0/s1600/bruce%2Bsquat.jpg).
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At about 3 minutes in, you can see him pose at #183, note the belly button.
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Most likely an operation waiting to happen.
How old are you?
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For a couple of years I ate everything in sight, over the last year I got my ass back into great shape but my lower abs have loose skin from when I held fat there. I've been trying skin tightening lotion and stuff but the skin just sags and is all wrinkled right in the lower part of my abs. I fucking hate it. Without needing plastic surgery has one here had this where eventually it just tightened back up again?
you must have been very over weight. Normally itīs not a big Problem. Maybe age too.
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For a couple of years I ate everything in sight, over the last year I got my ass back into great shape but my lower abs have loose skin from when I held fat there. I've been trying skin tightening lotion and stuff but the skin just sags and is all wrinkled right in the lower part of my abs. I fucking hate it. Without needing plastic surgery has one here had this where eventually it just tightened back up again?
In my experience, as one ages, the less elasticity our skin has. Over the last couple of years I lost 25-30 lbs. The skin on my lower abs is slowly tightening up, but I doubt it will ever be as tight as it once was unless I was to have surgery. Lotions and creams might help, but it is unlikely they can get you where you'd like to be and they an be very expensive.
Also as we age our skin may become 'thinner' which could result in more visual vascularity.
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Things you apply topically won't do anything lasting. Movie makeup artists apply Preparation H to face and eye bags to tighten temporarily, but you have to do it again a few hours later.
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Things you apply topically won't do anything lasting. Movie makeup artists apply Preparation H to face and eye bags to tighten temporarily, but you have to do it again a few hours later.
Can you imagine how much Preparation H it would take to temporarily tighten the skin on your midsection? That's if it even worked.
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Skin quality is the first thing to go for a competitive bodybuilder (outside health concerns).
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Posting at getbig 24 hours a day is the real reason why you have saggy skin. Until you start doing something other than posting, your saggy skin will remain.
And Herpes.
LOL look at this profile, it's an all-out assault on women. I think Danimal77 made it too.
https://www.pof.com/member13403626.htm (https://www.pof.com/member13403626.htm)
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Short answer: No.
Depending on the amount of mass lost, the time it took to lose, the time spent overweight (skin stretched), and other variables will dictate whether or not surgery is the best option.
But, speaking from tons of experience, there are no magical creams, pills, wraps, topical crap, etc. that will somehow strengthen the skin's elasticity. Think of a balloon that has been filled to the max with air for years and then taking half of the air out. The balloon wall will inevitably be weaker and more stretched. Additionally, think if that same balloon was stretched to the max and air was taken out and blown back up repeatedly over years (yo-yo dieting)...the elasticity of the balloon will NEVER go back to what it was before the air was put in.
I had surgery (circumferential body lift) to correct over 14" of loose skin from losing weight. Worst recovery ever (8 months total in all) but worth every penny! There was no way at all my skin would've ever magically tightened back up so I was left with only one choice of surgery. To each his own.
Best of luck!
EDIT: Also, the Prep H trick was cool back in the day, however, the company removed the actual ingredient that allowed for fat cells to dehydrate locally, so it won't matter how much preparation h and saran wrap you use, you will NOT get the same effect that people in the 90's did! Completely different product now...
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WEIGHTS-OVER, I know a lot of Hollywood peole who could easily afford circumferential body lift surgery, but I've never heard of anyone doing it and I am not aware if any health plan in the US covers cosmetic surgery unless it is health related.
Can you provide more info and the cost in US dollars that you paid to remove excess skin?
I, personally, don't 'suffer' from excessive skin ... but I do know many who do.
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Looks like the surgery was a total success. It is obvious you are committed to staying fit. Good job!
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Looking way better - props!
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As you get older beginning after the age of about 20-25 you lose about 1% of collagen and elastin each year after. If you are overweight, especially around the belly, when you lose the weight the loose skin becomes more prominent. You can slow the process but that's really about it. It's a part of the aging process. Sucks.
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Short answer: No.
Depending on the amount of mass lost, the time it took to lose, the time spent overweight (skin stretched), and other variables will dictate whether or not surgery is the best option.
But, speaking from tons of experience, there are no magical creams, pills, wraps, topical crap, etc. that will somehow strengthen the skin's elasticity. Think of a balloon that has been filled to the max with air for years and then taking half of the air out. The balloon wall will inevitably be weaker and more stretched. Additionally, think if that same balloon was stretched to the max and air was taken out and blown back up repeatedly over years (yo-yo dieting)...the elasticity of the balloon will NEVER go back to what it was before the air was put in.
I had surgery (circumferential body lift) to correct over 14" of loose skin from losing weight. Worst recovery ever (8 months total in all) but worth every penny! There was no way at all my skin would've ever magically tightened back up so I was left with only one choice of surgery. To each his own.
Best of luck!
EDIT: Also, the Prep H trick was cool back in the day, however, the company removed the actual ingredient that allowed for fat cells to dehydrate locally, so it won't matter how much preparation h and saran wrap you use, you will NOT get the same effect that people in the 90's did! Completely different product now...
Do you have a scar all the way around below your waistline? My loose skin is just on the lower part. I can hide it if I hike my shorts up a bit but I like my shorts sitting low so it sucks. Luckily it's not on the sides or anything. Good for you do doing that surgery.
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Thanks guys...kinda weird to get positive replies instead of the typical GetBigger response! (I'm sure it'll come)
The surgery was $12,500, due upfront. I had it done in 2012.
I do have a small scar around my entire waist, but it's extremely light and small, and the surgeon did such a great job, you cannot see it whatsoever, even in the tiniest posing trunks ::) . Unless you're seeing me naked, you'd never know I had it or would ever see it. I have over 2,000 stitches in total.
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Short answer: No.
Depending on the amount of mass lost, the time it took to lose, the time spent overweight (skin stretched), and other variables will dictate whether or not surgery is the best option.
But, speaking from tons of experience, there are no magical creams, pills, wraps, topical crap, etc. that will somehow strengthen the skin's elasticity. Think of a balloon that has been filled to the max with air for years and then taking half of the air out. The balloon wall will inevitably be weaker and more stretched. Additionally, think if that same balloon was stretched to the max and air was taken out and blown back up repeatedly over years (yo-yo dieting)...the elasticity of the balloon will NEVER go back to what it was before the air was put in.
I had surgery (circumferential body lift) to correct over 14" of loose skin from losing weight. Worst recovery ever (8 months total in all) but worth every penny! There was no way at all my skin would've ever magically tightened back up so I was left with only one choice of surgery. To each his own.
Best of luck!
EDIT: Also, the Prep H trick was cool back in the day, however, the company removed the actual ingredient that allowed for fat cells to dehydrate locally, so it won't matter how much preparation h and saran wrap you use, you will NOT get the same effect that people in the 90's did! Completely different product now...
I realize that was a lot of stitches but what made the recovery so bad?
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Great results there , Weights Over.
Congrats.
I've heard that skin reduction surgery is a long recovery. Same with tummy tuck I think.
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The never ending pain!!!!!! It was the worst horrific experience of my life. I was sent home with two drain tubes (that the Dr eventually admitted should've been four) that constantly bled out. I had to wear a compression garment for 6 months but couldn't move without extreme assistance for about 5 weeks straight. I couldn't lay down flat for months and had to sit upright 24/7. I needed constant help, so my wife had to take a month off work, then my family had to step in and help me move around. If I moved a quarter inch in any direction it felt like I was going to rip apart...like literally hot knives stabbing me where I felt like I was going to be pulled in half!
Aside from that, I was basically a crackhead for 6 months due to the necessity of being on every prescription pain pill imaginable. I atrophied down to 156lbs from the surgery (I was 330 at my heaviest) skin and bones and sick/unhealthy.
I remember trying to get up from the couch on my own one time a few weeks out because I was already sick of having to rely on other people, and naturally, the second I moved too far forward, I popped stitches in my back and bled out to what looked like a murder scene and had to be rushed back to the dr.
My stomach around my navel is still numb and the feeling will never come back. Up to 1.5 years post surgery, I was still having extreme hot knife sharp pains from the nerve endings finally waking up...I'd be walking around fine and normal and suddenly drop to my knees because it felt like someone had literally stabbed me. The whole recovery process was just awful, awful, awful. But, soon enough, I was able to walk back in the gym and finally lift again. I started with 5lb DB's and was unable to flat bench for almost 2 years, so the majority of chest work was done with cables and incline benches. I didn't sleep flat in a bed for almost a year.
I could go on and on...
My entire story of WLS, skin surgery, and competing is on my site, TheWeightStopsNow dot com if anyone cares to see more.
I was definitely one of the guys that subscribed to the whole magic pill process of tightening skin, but I can 100% assure you nothing will help tighten your skin if it's loose, period! Unfortunately, surgery is the only cure.
Thanks again!
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Wow.
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The never ending pain!!!!!! It was the worst horrific experience of my life. I was sent home with two drain tubes (that the Dr eventually admitted should've been four) that constantly bled out. I had to wear a compression garment for 6 months but couldn't move without extreme assistance for about 5 weeks straight. I couldn't lay down flat for months and had to sit upright 24/7. I needed constant help, so my wife had to take a month off work, then my family had to step in and help me move around. If I moved a quarter inch in any direction it felt like I was going to rip apart...like literally hot knives stabbing me where I felt like I was going to be pulled in half!
Aside from that, I was basically a crackhead for 6 months due to the necessity of being on every prescription pain pill imaginable. I atrophied down to 156lbs from the surgery (I was 330 at my heaviest) skin and bones and sick/unhealthy.
I remember trying to get up from the couch on my own one time a few weeks out because I was already sick of having to rely on other people, and naturally, the second I moved too far forward, I popped stitches in my back and bled out to what looked like a murder scene and had to be rushed back to the dr.
My stomach around my navel is still numb and the feeling will never come back. Up to 1.5 years post surgery, I was still having extreme hot knife sharp pains from the nerve endings finally waking up...I'd be walking around fine and normal and suddenly drop to my knees because it felt like someone had literally stabbed me. The whole recovery process was just awful, awful, awful. But, soon enough, I was able to walk back in the gym and finally lift again. I started with 5lb DB's and was unable to flat bench for almost 2 years, so the majority of chest work was done with cables and incline benches. I didn't sleep flat in a bed for almost a year.
I could go on and on...
My entire story of WLS, skin surgery, and competing is on my site, TheWeightStopsNow dot com if anyone cares to see more.
I was definitely one of the guys that subscribed to the whole magic pill process of tightening skin, but I can 100% assure you nothing will help tighten your skin if it's loose, period! Unfortunately, surgery is the only cure.
Thanks again!
Thanks for sharing. I thought it was brutal wearing a compression garment for a month after I had my gyno cut out but that's nothing compared to what you went through. Can't argue with your results though
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The never ending pain!!!!!! It was the worst horrific experience of my life. I was sent home with two drain tubes (that the Dr eventually admitted should've been four) that constantly bled out. I had to wear a compression garment for 6 months but couldn't move without extreme assistance for about 5 weeks straight. I couldn't lay down flat for months and had to sit upright 24/7. I needed constant help, so my wife had to take a month off work, then my family had to step in and help me move around. If I moved a quarter inch in any direction it felt like I was going to rip apart...like literally hot knives stabbing me where I felt like I was going to be pulled in half!
Aside from that, I was basically a crackhead for 6 months due to the necessity of being on every prescription pain pill imaginable. I atrophied down to 156lbs from the surgery (I was 330 at my heaviest) skin and bones and sick/unhealthy.
I remember trying to get up from the couch on my own one time a few weeks out because I was already sick of having to rely on other people, and naturally, the second I moved too far forward, I popped stitches in my back and bled out to what looked like a murder scene and had to be rushed back to the dr.
My stomach around my navel is still numb and the feeling will never come back. Up to 1.5 years post surgery, I was still having extreme hot knife sharp pains from the nerve endings finally waking up...I'd be walking around fine and normal and suddenly drop to my knees because it felt like someone had literally stabbed me. The whole recovery process was just awful, awful, awful. But, soon enough, I was able to walk back in the gym and finally lift again. I started with 5lb DB's and was unable to flat bench for almost 2 years, so the majority of chest work was done with cables and incline benches. I didn't sleep flat in a bed for almost a year.
I could go on and on...
My entire story of WLS, skin surgery, and competing is on my site, TheWeightStopsNow dot com if anyone cares to see more.
I was definitely one of the guys that subscribed to the whole magic pill process of tightening skin, but I can 100% assure you nothing will help tighten your skin if it's loose, period! Unfortunately, surgery is the only cure.
Thanks again!
Fuck. I felt pain while reading this. That must have been tough.
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Lots of hot yoga and green tea
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It is interesting how much your facial features changed after losing the excess weight and lowering your body fat percentage. The horror story outlining the process and pain of recovery should inspire folks who carry extra weight to do something about it now. I commend you for your perseverance.
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It is interesting how much your facial features changed after losing the excess weight and lowering your body fat percentage..
assuming you arent cave man looking.... get to single digit bodyfat = handsome face (clean shaved, take care of your teeth, nice hair and you are good to go)
with single digit bodyfat, men typically have much more clean skin.... super bro science but something along the idea of less hormonal changes when you are a constant low bodyfat helps. less hormonal acne with fatty face (more estrogen) and more fluctuation of hormones
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Thanks guys...kinda weird to get positive replies instead of the typical GetBigger response! (I'm sure it'll come)
The surgery was $12,500, due upfront. I had it done in 2012.
I do have a small scar around my entire waist, but it's extremely light and small, and the surgeon did such a great job, you cannot see it whatsoever, even in the tiniest posing trunks ::) . Unless you're seeing me naked, you'd never know I had it or would ever see it. I have over 2,000 stitches in total.
Impressive work there.you have come along way.but since no one else has given the typical getbiggers response as you expected,go fuck yourself you fucking fat fuck.Hahahaha.No you look great.
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Impressive work there.you have come along way.but since no one else has given the typical getbiggers response as you expected,go fuck yourself you fucking fat fuck.Hahahaha.No you look great.
Hahahahaha, there it is!!! Thank you kind sir! I was beginning to think you Getbiggers lost your mojo! I feel at home again.
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Hey, WEIGHTS! You described your pain after surgery which laseedt a long time.
I recently had some hernia surgery work done and was in great pain for ONLY 10 days whenever I tried to lay or sit down and whenever I attemped to stand up.
Those maneuvers always felt like the stitches were breaking loose.
I don't like pain killers for some unknown or long forgotten reason so I put up with 10 days of misery.
But if I had to go what you went through ... I'd definitely be a drugged-up addict today.
Did you mentioned anything about a dependence on pain killers anyplace up-above? (Possible addiction?)
A few years back I ended up in an emergency clinic and was told I was going to be given a morphine shot, but I simply said, "Doc, That isn't going to do any good. It won't work!"
And after that shot (morphine) the pain continued and even got a bit worse!
What's up the ladder from morphine? I are dumb when it comes to drugs!
I have never discussed this in detail with a physician, but is it possible that morphine or other addictive shots or pain killers have no effect on some individuals?
I also find it extremely difficult to get intoxicated and usually get that 'filled to the brim' feelng and gotta stop with the 'liquids' before any feeling of intoxication.
Maybe I shoild try straight shots but that would mean a hell of a lot of Tequila!
BOXING INJURY = EYE SURGERY = no need for any pre-surgery drug which would not work anyway.
Am I crazy or just plain nutz?
Thanks for your surgery info.
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I have never discussed this in detail with a physician, but is it possible that morphine or other addictive shots or pain killers have no effect on some individuals?
Yes.
One of my friends is totally immune to all painkillers.
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Thanks, IRON.
I guess the following story (supposedly a true story) would be appropriate here.
A good number of the old time IFBB pros told me this story many times and each of them swore that it's true, but I stil have my doubts due to the fact that this story was told in a number of smoke filled rooms filled with a cloud of Maui Wowie.
And in an effort to protect the GUILTY ... no names will be disclosed.
Maybe another old timer would be more willing to 'spill the beans' regarding the who, the why, and the wherefores ...or simply back me up regarding the truth or non-truth of the following.
A well known bodybuilder who is still well-known today was scheduled for heart surgery if he was more than willig to risk that surgery to prolong his life.
He signed up and was wheeled into the surgery room of a well known So. Ca. hospital.
Now here is the complicated part of this open heart surgery story.
He was given what ever it is that was given that placed him in a completely immobile state .... but for some inknown reason he was not given any medical substance that would put him to sleep and completely pain free during the surgery procedure.
So he was immobile and totally unresponsive but completely awake and aware of the what was going on .
Worst part is that he could feel everything! They cut hm open, did somethig to his ribs, and then went to work on his heart!
He felt it all!
HE CAME OUT ALIVE ... HIS HEART WAS FIXED and he recovered fully heart-wise over time .... but his close friends always claimed that he was a lot MORE insane than he was before.
That last sentence may be the big clue that some GetBiggers may only need to guess who this individual is.
If any old time IFBB pros with last names such as Ruelle, Grant, Leonard, Kehn, etc. ever read this stuff .... they may be willing to confirm and be more specific.
Everyone that has ever retold this story in my presence has sworn that it is true.
But that story was a long while back and was often repeated in smokey rooms when no one was sane enough to refute its truthfulness.
And I've never seen it mentioned on thisGet Big Board.
Any help, WES!?
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Hey, WEIGHTS! You described your pain after surgery which laseedt a long time.
I recently had some hernia surgery work done and was in great pain for ONLY 10 days whenever I tried to lay or sit down and whenever I attemped to stand up.
Those maneuvers always felt like the stitches were breaking loose.
I don't like pain killers for some unknown or long forgotten reason so I put up with 10 days of misery.
But if I had to go what you went through ... I'd definitely be a drugged-up addict today.
Did you mentioned anything about a dependence on pain killers anyplace up-above? (Possible addiction?)
A few years back I ended up in an emergency clinic and was told I was going to be given a morphine shot, but I simply said, "Doc, That isn't going to do any good. It won't work!"
And after that shot (morphine) the pain continued and even got a bit worse!
What's up the ladder from morphine? I are dumb when it comes to drugs!
I have never discussed this in detail with a physician, but is it possible that morphine or other addictive shots or pain killers have no effect on some individuals?
I also find it extremely difficult to get intoxicated and usually get that 'filled to the brim' feelng and gotta stop with the 'liquids' before any feeling of intoxication.
Maybe I shoild try straight shots but that would mean a hell of a lot of Tequila!
BOXING INJURY = EYE SURGERY = no need for any pre-surgery drug which would not work anyway.
Am I crazy or just plain nutz?
Thanks for your surgery info.
The power of mind over matter is my preference when it comes to pain management.
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Thanks, PRIME, but my mind ain't smart enough to overcome the pain of a stubbed toe!
I just grin and bear it.
Oh yea, I forgot to mention that I was once prescribed PERCOCET which I have been told is very strong and addictive.
But it didn't work and every druggy I've explained this to wants to know if I have any left!
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Thanks, PRIME, but my mind ain't smart enough to overcome the pain of a stubbed toe!
I just grin and bear it.
Oh yea, I forgot to mention that I was once prescribed PERCOCET which I have been told is very strong and addictive.
But it didn't work and every druggy I've explained this to wants to know if I have any left!
Grinning and bearing pain is in fact using mind over matter. Your mind is smarter than you know.
There was one time when I couldn't stand the unrelenting pain, that was when I had the shingles. My doctor prescribed Gabapentin, which helped.
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I was prescribed, and used, so many painkillers I lost track...everything from morphine to dilaudid to oxycontin, oxycodone, hydrocodone, percocet, and everything in between. However, I should note that I can NOT use NSAIDS, so ibuprofen/motrin/etc were out of the question, which also led to a prolonged recovery. Because of that, it was strictly tylenol based painkillers.
Because of the heavy use, I was also undergoing suppositories and the like because everything inside shuts down. I was basically a pill head for 6 months, but strictly for pain and not for pleasure (never took anything recreationally before,during, or since. and even if i wanted to, the pain was so overwhelming 24/7 that i dont think i could've relaxed and tried to enjoy anything anyway).
It wasn't as difficult as I'd had thought to finally wean off of them as I was very much dependent on them, but the whole recovery process was so mentally and physically draining that I honestly don't remember the come down/tapering off. I was in a jungle 99% of the time between pain and the drugs that all I remember from the entire 6 months are bits and pieces because I was either crying or doped up lol.
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What's your drug regiment now?