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As requested by our resident Venezualen-like socialist..Strawman
Let start with the latest
The left voted 3 THREE times to not pay Federal workers
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/01/24/pelosi-democrats-leave-town-for-the-weekend-after-voting-against-federal-workers-n2540208
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As requested by our resident Venezualen-like socialist..Strawman
Let start with the latest
The left voted 3 THREE times to not pay Federal workers
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/01/24/pelosi-democrats-leave-town-for-the-weekend-after-voting-against-federal-workers-n2540208
https://www.truthorfiction.com/did-house-democrats-vote-against-shutdown-back-pay-in-january-2019/
btw - nice of Republican Lee Zeldin to actually admit that Trump has taken the federal workers "hostage"
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https://www.truthorfiction.com/did-house-democrats-vote-against-shutdown-back-pay-in-january-2019/
btw - nice of Republican Lee Zeldin to actually admit that Trump has taken the federal workers "hostage"
Are you ready to lose another one?
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Are you ready to lose another one?
you truly haven't got a clue what you're talking about (common for Trumptards and common for you for your entire life)
https://www.truthorfiction.com/did-house-democrats-vote-against-shutdown-back-pay-in-january-2019/
Rep. Crenshaw's tweet intimated that House Republicans voted to issue a single paycheck to furloughed workers, while House Democrats voted against the measure. Based on accounts of events in the chamber on the day of the vote, even present Congressmen and women were unclear on the events that occurred. The vote linked by Crenshaw was a Motion to Recommit, which was voted down largely by Democrats and up largely by Republicans. A subsequent vote on passage occurred on January 23 2019, and it was favored by Democrats, while Republicans mostly voted against it.
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Big tough Donnie folded like a tent lol. Then announces the government reopening like he did something special. Fucking piece of shit. Pussy. Dumbfuck you're not getting your worthless fucking wall, get used to it. Had to announce something today to distract from Stone indictment. All you dumbfucks that don't believe he is in deep shit are comical. Join the real world, your hero is nothing but a fat pussy, and his ass is in deep shit.
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HAHAHAHA he backed down. But yet proclaimed it like some kind of success.
Rambling on at the mouth without a clue. Meanwhile..... Mexico still isn't paying for the wall.
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Big tough Donnie folded like a tent lol. Then announces the government reopening like he did something special. Fucking piece of shit. Pussy. Dumbfuck you're not getting your worthless fucking wall, get used to it. Had to announce something today to distract from Stone indictment. All you dumbfucks that don't believe he is in deep shit are comical. Join the real world, your hero is nothing but a fat pussy, and his ass is in deep shit.
Guessing you are quite the embarrassment to your parents.
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Reserving judgement on this as when I have jumped the gun on things I thought he was making a big mistake he usually ends up doing the right thing. I thought he caved quite easily on the Union address so this may have to do with that.
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"We will not cave." Trump 1/24/2019
*caved* Trump 1/25/2019
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Trump just extended it for three weeks. When the libtards still don't budge it looks bad on them not Trump plus the libtards in the House have no power while the government is shut down. This must drive the freshman libtards like Occasio-Cortez crazy (not that she isn't already). The longer this shutdown lasts the less damage they can do.
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Trump just extended it for three weeks. When the libtards still don't budge it looks bad on them not Trump plus the libtards in the House have no power while the government is shut down. This must drive the freshman libtards like Occasio-Cortez crazy (not that she isn't already). The longer this shutdown lasts the less damage they can do.
So he can deliver the State Of The Union address right? Is that his grand plan?
Not sure how it looks bad on anyone but the person who proudly proclaimed he would be happy to close it and take full responsibility of prior to doing so.
Trump caved. Mr. Art Of The Deal lost. Nancy kicked his ass.
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So he can deliver the State Of The Union address right? Is that his grand plan?
Not sure how it looks bad on anyone but the person who proudly proclaimed he would be happy to close it and take full responsibility of prior to doing so.
Trump caved. Mr. Art Of The Deal lost. Nancy kicked his ass.
We shall see.
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Buying 3 weeks to replace Darth Bader hopefully...
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Trump caved. Mr. Art Of The Deal lost. Nancy kicked his ass.
I do wonder how you make a deal with those who are not open to one. You even have your own side caving (in Trump's circumstance). What is he really to do in the end (if it gets shut down again) and how do you make an actual deal? Difficult situation.
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Guessing you are quite the embarrassment to your parents.
Never knew his dad, probably raised by a single lady calling herself his "aunt"
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I do wonder how you make a deal with those who are not open to one. You even have your own side caving (in Trump's circumstance). What is he really to do in the end (if it gets shut down again) and how do you make an actual deal? Difficult situation.
Why do you even need a deal when your own party controls the Presidency, the House and the Senate?
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Never knew his dad, probably raised by a single lady calling herself his "aunt"
auntie. hope this helps.
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I do wonder how you make a deal with those who are not open to one. You even have your own side caving (in Trump's circumstance). What is he really to do in the end (if it gets shut down again) and how do you make an actual deal? Difficult situation.
I've got an idea
He could get MEXICO TO PAY FOR HIS WALL
that's what he said over and over and over and over and over and over again
He couldn't get that done so he decided to take eight hundred thousand federal workers hostage in order to extort money from US Tax payers
Why would he expect a co-equal branch of government to negotiate with him under those circumstances
And as Lurker pointed out, he had two years to with his party controlling the House and Senate. Why didn't he make an effort to get his wall funding from his own party and why didn't he shut down the government when they wouldn't provide it.
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Why do you even need a deal when your own party controls the Presidency, the House and the Senate?
You shouldn't but you do because (as in the post you quoted) your own supposed side can't stand their ground. That's my point. His hands are tied unfortunately even when the Republicans had control.
There is no deal currently to be made that is beneficial without completely (and truly) caving to an ideology I don't believe in.
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Truth be told, it was not a smart campaign promise. The reality is that congress controls the budget. So Trump was making a promise that he would’ve had to depend on other people to help fulfil.
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You shouldn't but you do because (as in the post you quoted) your own supposed side can't stand their ground. That's my point. His hands are tied unfortunately even when the Republicans had control.
There is no deal currently to be made that is beneficial without completely (and truly) caving to an ideology I don't believe in.
So you are saying that even Repubs are against the wall funding?
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So you are saying that even Repubs are against the wall funding?
Some of the elected officials are or don't care enough to take the blowback from the media, etc. plus he needs some democrats to come over as well.
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I've got an idea
He could get MEXICO TO PAY FOR HIS WALL
that's what he said over and over and over and over and over and over again
He couldn't get that done so he decided to take eight hundred thousand federal workers hostage in order to extort money from US Tax payers
Why would he expect a co-equal branch of government to negotiate with him under those circumstances
And as Lurker pointed out, he had two years to with his party controlling the House and Senate. Why didn't he make an effort to get his wall funding from his own party and why didn't he shut down the government when they wouldn't provide it.
Lol, I can smell your butthurt 360 miles away :D
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Truth be told, it was not a smart campaign promise. The reality is that congress controls the budget. So Trump was making a promise that he would’ve had to depend on other people to help fulfil.
Do folks actually believe campaign promises? Politicians are salespeople. They will say whatever it takes to get elected. Laws and budgets are passed when the three branches of government and the parties work in unison. Stalemates and shutdowns are losing propositions.
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Some of the elected officials are or don't care enough to take the blowback from the media, etc. plus he needs some democrats to come over as well.
Ummm.... no. He needs the support of his own party first. If they are the majority it shouldn't have been a problem. They were. He still didn't get it. Trumps just an empty suit that has shown he can't take confrontation when someone stands up to his little bullying tactics.
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Ummm.... no. He needs the support of his own party first. If they are the majority it shouldn't have been a problem. They were. He still didn't get it. Trumps just an empty suit that has shown he can't take confrontation when someone stands up to his little bullying tactics.
Ummmm....are you daft?
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Ummmm....are you daft?
Ummm.... no. Hence the reason I said twice that he couldn't the wall with his own party holding all three branches.
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Ummm.... no. Hence the reason I said twice that he couldn't the wall with his own party holding all three branches.
Ummm....yes. Otherwise you would not have made a point that I already acknowledged at least twice in this thread that you personally quoted. Hence, you are daft.
I was waiting for some grand finale to your questioning and you came up with nothing beyond what was already posted. Then you post it in a dumb manner to top it off.
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Pretty sure McConnell promised Trump the votes in Senate to follow through on the proposition in his speech last weekend. Didn't turn out that way.
It's obvious the mainstream GOP politicians are just as bad, taking part in the theater that they are working for constituents...they are "elected" ruling class. Deep down most of us know this though. That's the reason Trump sticks out. Results are not to be rewarded.
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Pretty sure McConnell promised Trump the votes in Senate to follow through on the proposition in his speech last weekend. Didn't turn out that way.
It's obvious the mainstream GOP politicians are just as bad, taking part in the theater that they are working for constituents...they are "elected" ruling class. Deep down most of us know this though. That's the reason Trump sticks out. Results are not to be rewarded.
Exactly. Had we wanted a Republican establishment type as President, we would’ve voted for one of the 16 who ran against Trump in the primary.
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Ummm....yes. Otherwise you would not have made a point that I already acknowledged at least twice in this thread that you personally quoted. Hence, you are daft.
I was waiting for some grand finale to your questioning and you came up with nothing beyond what was already posted. Then you post it in a dumb manner to top it off.
If you are waiting for something other than simple facts, that is your shortcoming. Not mine.
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Truth be told, it was not a smart campaign promise. The reality is that congress controls the budget. So Trump was making a promise that he would’ve had to depend on other people to help fulfil.
A reasonable observation however it was obvious to everyone but Trump
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A reasonable observation however it was obvious to everyone but Trump
Wait until he's out of office to say that. You have no idea how this is going to end.
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Since libs love polls so much....
Common sense tells you this was 100% on The loony left
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/01/28/ruh-roh-government-shutdown-opinion-poll-spells-big-trouble-for-democrats-and-especially-for-nancy-pelosi/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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If you are waiting for something other than simple facts, that is your shortcoming. Not mine.
The proper way to gain respect is to admit when you are wrong and that you simply read too fast what you are quoting in your eagerness to post. That is a shortcoming that you can improve on in the future. You were essentially arguing an acknowledged point.
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Wait until he's out of office to say that. You have no idea how this is going to end.
It won't end with Mexico paying for the wall. Pretty sure of that.
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It won't end with Mexico paying for the wall. Pretty sure of that.
We'll make back the cost of the wall easily by the new USMCA trade deal.......so yeah they kind of are paying for it.
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We'll make back the cost of the wall easily by the new USMCA trade deal.......so yeah they kind of are paying for it.
How is it that you state this as if it is an absolute? Cannot the trade deal happen even if there's no wall improvements/construction?
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We'll make back the cost of the wall easily by the new USMCA trade deal.......so yeah they kind of are paying for it.
Pretty sure they won't be.
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We'll make back the cost of the wall easily by the new USMCA trade deal.......so yeah they kind of are paying for it.
So Mexico has been paying for it since Clinton signed NAFTA? USMCA = NAFTA. Just rebranded by dickstain donnie.
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We'll make back the cost of the wall easily by the new USMCA trade deal.......so yeah they kind of are paying for it.
Talk about stretching something to fit the narrative...
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So Mexico has been paying for it since Clinton signed NAFTA? USMCA = NAFTA. Just rebranded by dickstain donnie.
That trade deal hurt the U.S. USMCA is a better deal for us.
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That trade deal hurt the U.S. USMCA is a better deal for us.
Mexico still isn't paying.
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Mexico still isn't paying.
Maybe not directly by cutting a check but indirectly yes.
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Maybe not directly by cutting a check but indirectly yes.
Just stop....
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Just stop....
I don't expect you to have the intelligence to see how things indirectly influence other things.
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Maybe not directly by cutting a check but indirectly yes.
Ummm.... nope.
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Ummm.... nope.
Ummmmm....yep.
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Ummmmm....yep.
Ummmm... nope. But when they issue the check, let me know.
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Ummmm... nope. But when they issue the check, let me know.
You know I will.
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You know I will.
Deal. I'll hold you to it.