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Title: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 28, 2019, 07:20:26 PM
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Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: che on May 28, 2019, 08:41:49 PM
Coach what do you think is the reason for your loose skin , age, genetics or the amount of weight gained in the off season ?







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Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 28, 2019, 08:51:56 PM
Coach what do you think is the reason for your loose skin , age, genetics or the amount of weight gained in the off season ?







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Age and taking too long in between shows.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 28, 2019, 08:52:30 PM
Coach what do you think is the reason for your loose skin , age, genetics or the amount of weight gained in the off season ?







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It's called being ripped at 50 something.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Bevo on May 28, 2019, 10:54:08 PM
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Do you still train pretty heavy these days? Bench presses? Deadlifts?
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Powerlift66 on May 29, 2019, 12:49:02 AM
Coach is closing in on 60. The skin is an age thing for sure, well know issue with aging folks in general (not just BB's).
Most here never looked as good as Joe when they were 30, never mind when they get near 60.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: ratherbebig on May 29, 2019, 01:15:16 AM
even this all-year-round-ripped guy got some lose skin

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Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Matt on May 29, 2019, 03:25:15 AM
I have never been as lean as Joe. Could I get that lean without PEDs? I know size is a PED thing...but can E/C/A alone get a person they lean?

While my skin may be good at 50... I'm not so sure at 60. Age will eventually get us all.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Prudence on May 29, 2019, 06:01:05 AM
can E/C/A alone get a person they lean?
Fixed.
E/C/A/DNP.
That's the solution right there. Might not fix loose skin--but you'll lean out for sure.
Or die.
 One or the other--I dunno
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Powerlift66 on May 29, 2019, 06:07:53 AM
Fixed.
E/C/A/DNP.
That's the solution right there. Might not fix loose skin--but you'll lean out for sure.
Or die.
 One or the other--I dunno


Dont fukk w/ DNP, E.C.A. is a proven stack that has been working since the early 90's.
Matt, you are pretty lean already, no need for stims as far as I can see.
If not competing in BB, no one needs to be skeleton lean anyways.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Prudence on May 29, 2019, 06:30:35 AM
DNP's danger is over rated. It really is.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 29, 2019, 08:19:13 AM
The one thing that I’m self-conscious about as I aged. Only noticeable when I diet down but it bothers me. Old age = less collagen. For the record, No DNP....ever
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 29, 2019, 08:31:26 AM
TDS's danger is under-rated. It really is.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: B_MyT_2 on May 29, 2019, 09:35:39 AM
The one thing that I’m self-conscious about as I aged. Only noticeable when I diet down but it bothers me. Old age = less collagen. For the record, No DNP....ever

Congrats on your victory, and doing so well in the open.  I've never been interested in doing a show and getting that lean, but it certainly is admirable that you were able to do it and do so well at your age.  Well done sir!

Enjoyed the vid, and thought it was solid advice.  Have to say though, youtubers doing vids while driving drives me insane.  Someone is going to get hurt or killed by someone trying to get clicks on YT....like DNP, it's just not worth it.  Please be safe.

Again, job well done with your prep!
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 29, 2019, 09:38:20 AM
DNP's danger is over rated. It really is.
Is that some queer party drug?
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Prudence on May 29, 2019, 09:40:01 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: B_MyT_2 on May 29, 2019, 09:49:21 AM
Great news......a second way that your faggit ass can die soon!!!! :D
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: wes on May 29, 2019, 11:07:21 AM
Strangely enough,I never had a problem with sagging skin.

I believe it`s probably due to the fact that I never went over 15 pounds or so over my contest bodyweight.

Here`s me at 57 years old.....I`m 63 right now and still no sagging.

Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Prudence on May 29, 2019, 11:14:33 AM
WTF???
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Kwon on May 29, 2019, 11:17:40 AM
Coach lookin good closing in on 60, but Wes is the Masterblaster!

Wes closing in on 700 looking like that, with no saggy skin whatsoever!

INCREDIBLE!
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 29, 2019, 11:40:13 AM

Do you still train pretty heavy these days? Bench presses? Deadlifts?

I train as heavy as I can. When I deadlift now I don't pull from the floor, I'll do rack pulls instead. I haven't straight bar benched in probably close to a year but rather I'll do heavy DB presses. For the last few months, I've been dealing with a SLAP tear and training around that. When I first did it I had a hard time just with 25-30lbs DB's but as I kept finding ways to train without atrophy I started gradually getting my strength back with limited ROM, the last two weeks before the show I was back up to the 110's.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 29, 2019, 11:46:53 AM
Strangely enough,I never had a problem with sagging skin.

I believe it`s probably due to the fact that I never went over 15 pounds or so over my contest bodyweight.

Here`s me at 57 years old.....I`m 63 right now and still no sagging.



And that's the key right there along with consistency. When I started back training hard and consistent in Feb 2017 I was 236 and training was inconsistent, working 12-14hrs 6-7 days. Not only was I heavy (but never went over 16%)
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: michael arvilla on May 29, 2019, 11:50:39 AM
56 here (no saggy loose skin)..was wondering how to avoid it? (I have been 312 lbs before so it’s not caused by “ bulking up”)  is it Genetic?  .. Cardio/ diet related??.. what is the cause and how to avoid it and or fix it if you have it? ..
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: wes on May 29, 2019, 12:00:26 PM
And that's the key right there along with consistency. When I started back training hard and consistent in Feb 2017 I was 236 and training was inconsistent, working 12-14hrs 6-7 days. Not only was I heavy (but never went over 16%)
Oddly enough Joe,when I crept up to my heaviest bodyweight ever,I found that I really hadn`t put on much actual muscle tissue despite training like a complete freak with very short rest periods,heavy weight,and lots of intensity techniques.

I just looked like a semi-bloated dude who was half assed into lifting instead of a competitive bodybuilder.

I didn`t like the look,and I felt like pure shit most of the time and I was not actually all that heavy.

I have a tiny bone structure and was cursed/blessed with a pretty fast metabolism......classic ectomorph in a huge way.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: wes on May 29, 2019, 12:02:22 PM
56 here (no saggy loose skin)..was wondering how to avoid it? (I have been 312 lbs before so it’s not caused by “ bulking up”)  is it Genetic?  .. Cardio/ diet related??.. what is the cause and how to avoid it and or fix it if you have it? ..

Looking fucking great Mike!!

Props brother.

I have no tips other that to say,don`t let yourself hit 300 pounds or more ever again!  LOL  :)

When you first got lean,I was so happy for you as you looked far far better and I felt that you probably felt much better physically as well as mentally.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 29, 2019, 12:15:01 PM
56 here (no saggy loose skin)..was wondering how to avoid it? (I have been 312 lbs before so it’s not caused by “ bulking up”)  is it Genetic?  .. Cardio/ diet related??.. what is the cause and how to avoid it and or fix it if you have it? ..



Mike, you're always looking ready. In my case this is the only thing I can come up with. I'm sure genetics plays a part but I did have a chance to get this corrected without surgery but 6 sessions would have cost me $4k. Wasn't worth it. Hopefully I can find a remedy before I start my prep for next years Nationals.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 29, 2019, 12:38:58 PM
I think the more weight you have to lose and age has something to do with it the less it will spring back. Even people that aren't into bodybuilding when they lose a lot of fat have loose skin. The younger you are gives you best odds of the skin returning it goes without saying.  If you you're 60 and lose 20 to 30lbs for a contest the skin isn't going to spring back. I speculate  with Wes since he competes at around the weight he is off season his skin isn't expanding and contracting.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: michael arvilla on May 29, 2019, 12:59:43 PM
Looking fucking great Mike!!

Props brother.

I have no tips other that to say,don`t let yourself hit 300 pounds or more ever again!  LOL  :)

When you first got lean,I was so happy for you as you looked far far better and I felt that you probably felt much better physically as well as mentally.
Thank You Tim! (You 2 You look amazing!..Coach also killing it for us old timers! ...thanks for all the help/advice over the years! ..  just keep doing what we are doing I guess ....
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: wes on May 29, 2019, 02:21:42 PM
One of the many times that I competed in the Masters Nationals,this guy kept asking me how he might tighten up the small amount of loose skin that he had on his lower abs.

I told him I had no clue..........he looked fucking great and won his class that day as well as multiple other times.

I think it`s not that big of a deal unless it`s an exhorbatant amount of skin.

Lots of other guys that compete have it to varying degrees and they do well just like Joe did.

The audience doesn`t see it very well if at all from the seats while you`re onstage and fuck,most of these guys are well over 40 or 50.

If anyone complained,I`d tell them to diet down and hit the stage if they could do better.  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: B_MyT_2 on May 29, 2019, 02:24:41 PM
Strangely enough,I never had a problem with sagging skin.

I believe it`s probably due to the fact that I never went over 15 pounds or so over my contest bodyweight.

Here`s me at 57 years old.....I`m 63 right now and still no sagging.



Geez dude...that's just your walking around condition? :o
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Rascal full on May 29, 2019, 02:29:27 PM
56 here (no saggy loose skin)..was wondering how to avoid it? (I have been 312 lbs before so it’s not caused by “ bulking up”)  is it Genetic?  .. Cardio/ diet related??.. what is the cause and how to avoid it and or fix it if you have it? ..


That photo recent? You look fantastic for any age.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: B_MyT_2 on May 29, 2019, 02:32:02 PM
That photo recent? You look fantastic for any age.

I concur.  My old ass is inspired by this thread.  Gives me hope for me to get back to my old self after all :-\

Mike, are you a cop now?  It looks like your in a police locker room and with holster? ???
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: michael arvilla on May 29, 2019, 02:35:53 PM
That photo recent? You look fantastic for any age.
yes... (few weeks ago) thank you man! (Appreciate the compliment)
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: michael arvilla on May 29, 2019, 02:37:03 PM
I concur.  My old ass is inspired by this thread.  Gives me hope for me to get back to my old self after all :-\

Mike, are you a cop now?  It looks like your in a police locker room and with holster? ???
Mall Cop (Paul Blart) ..
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: B_MyT_2 on May 29, 2019, 02:55:12 PM
Mall Cop (Paul Blart) ..

Hey, you probably still pull some young nice pussy in the shape you're in, so more power to ya 8)
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: michael arvilla on May 29, 2019, 02:57:54 PM
Hey, you probably still pull some young nice pussy in the shape you're in, so more power to ya 8)
lol! (Thx)
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: che on May 29, 2019, 03:00:01 PM
Strangely enough,I never had a problem with sagging skin.

I believe it`s probably due to the fact that I never went over 15 pounds or so over my contest bodyweight.

Here`s me at 57 years old.....I`m 63 right now and still no sagging.



Wes is the man , by far  the most knowledgeable bodybuilder on this site  , the only one  I would listen to when it comes to training and dieting .
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Rascal full on May 29, 2019, 03:41:41 PM
yes... (few weeks ago) thank you man! (Appreciate the compliment)

Great stuff, very inspirational. 56 is not old but bodybuilding really is the closest to the fountain of youth that we have. Any little gems you can share with us that have helped you over the years?
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: wes on May 29, 2019, 04:01:16 PM
Geez dude...that's just your walking around condition? :o
No,that was 2 week after a contest.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: michael arvilla on May 29, 2019, 04:24:03 PM
Great stuff, very inspirational. 56 is not old but bodybuilding really is the closest to the fountain of youth that we have. Any little gems you can share with us that have helped you over the years?
Thanks!.... two things that really got me in shape (ripped) 1) i was doing crazy miles walking around the mall without even realizing it (someone told me to check the miles I walked on my phone (wasn’t aware it was tracking steps or miles lol) ... in one 9-10 hour shift I was walking 12-15 miles, I actually had to stop all cardio at the gym, because I was getting more than enough at work! 2) Diet! (Once I started eating in the “ off- season” like I did pre-contest (every 3-4 hours... at least 30-35 grams of protein, moderate to low carbs and zero sugar and low fats) I was able to stay in shape all year around ...my diet was crap when I was heavy (fat) .. too many shakes and processed food and if we are being totally honest Tren got me ripped and lean (I don’t touch it now as it was ravaging my face and making me look very old and haggard) these are the only “ secrets “ I can honestly say changed my entire physique!
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: tres_taco_combo on May 29, 2019, 05:15:30 PM
great thread

back to post contest rebound

-always do cardio
-remember your show/prep body is not your normal body - hell look our Mr. 0. so many ppl go down hard - all the gear, the attention, then boom they loose a lot of it
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: The RedMeatKid on May 29, 2019, 06:41:50 PM
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Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 29, 2019, 06:46:04 PM
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Not sure what you’re getting at here.... but you go girl!
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: AbrahamG on May 29, 2019, 06:53:53 PM
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LMFAO.  Well done.
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: The True Adonis on May 29, 2019, 06:54:57 PM
Strangely enough,I never had a problem with sagging skin.

I believe it`s probably due to the fact that I never went over 15 pounds or so over my contest bodyweight.

Here`s me at 57 years old.....I`m 63 right now and still no sagging.


Best Goddamned Physique at Getbig in my opinion.  I think you hit the right balance of size and symmetry and of course leanness.

Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Fallsview on May 29, 2019, 06:57:23 PM
Goodmorrow!

I think I can help. I stumbled across an old 1991 magazine that had an interview with Porter Cortrell. He said his after contest diet was as follows:

7am: Oatmeal with non-fat milk, Weider supplements

8am: Train/protein shake sipping slowly throughout workout

10am: 2 rice cakes with almond butter

12pm: Tuna steak with light drizzle vinaigrette.

2pm: Protein Shake/Weider Supplements

3pm: Brisk walk.

6pm: 8oz Ribeye with green beans

8pm: Protein Shake mixed with Weider liquid aminos.

10pm: Supplements.

Porter said that he would try to get at least 10 hours of sleep after a contest for recovery. He also kept his workouts light and quick because he felt that his body was put through the "ringer" as he described.



STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: CT_Muscle on May 30, 2019, 01:49:23 PM
Coach in your experience what is the ideal macro ratio for fat loss?
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Titus Pullo on May 30, 2019, 02:08:58 PM
Strangely enough,I never had a problem with sagging skin.

I believe it`s probably due to the fact that I never went over 15 pounds or so over my contest bodyweight.

Here`s me at 57 years old.....I`m 63 right now and still no sagging.



Jesus, Wes...that is insane!
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 30, 2019, 02:25:38 PM
Coach in your experience what is the ideal macro ratio for fat loss?

Right around 45 40 15% or 45 35 20%
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: CT_Muscle on May 30, 2019, 02:32:19 PM
Right around 45 40 15% or 45 35 20%
P c f?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Controlling Post Contest Rebound
Post by: Titus Pullo on May 30, 2019, 02:34:29 PM
56 here (no saggy loose skin)..was wondering how to avoid it? (I have been 312 lbs before so it’s not caused by “ bulking up”)  is it Genetic?  .. Cardio/ diet related??.. what is the cause and how to avoid it and or fix it if you have it? ..


Mike "Delts" Arvilla!