yeah dudee ironage is the aweosmest fo comparison pics. the owner is biased toward the more "classical physiques" though......poses or physiques?
poses or physiques?physiques..
Which is worse, Mayhem or Ironage?
ironage no question. mayhem is way more moderated than here, but at least you're allowed to argue and disagree with people.
in a message to Jeff Preston yesterday I told him that the ironage rules as they are now will keep membership down a great deal and that is 100% the truth. They can run the board as they like, but they reap the consequences of that
Whats Ironic is Shawn puts a stop to Coleman-Bashing when it gets out of hand !! he and Peter McGough are huge fans of Ronnie 2001 ASC , Shawn ranks Ronnie as one of the best Mr Olympia winners , so to say no contradictory statements aren't allowed is nonsense , I said I don't think Shawn Ray is a great bodybuilder on Ironage and it was NOT a statement that went over well but I made my case without going to the extreme , bottom line their house their rules .
Which is why you removed your signature line " God is dead " from ironage. It is their house and if they want it to be an empty one that is their choice.
You and some other ironagers put Frank Zane ahead of Shawn in terms of bodybuilding physiques. ::) I have no idea how you can even say that while keeping a straight face lol.
Which is why you removed your signature line " God is dead " from ironage. It is their house and if they want it to be an empty one that is their choice.
You and some other ironagers put Frank Zane ahead of Shawn in terms of bodybuilding physiques. ::) I have no idea how you can even say that while keeping a straight face lol.
lol no whats unny? i was just looking at their picturessection....it seems like the worse genetics you have...the more of a classical physique fan you are!! ahaha..ohh man..i think the reason these guys are soo fond of guys like zane is because zane is the only pro to ever be attainable for these small small very small men. ;D
Oh, I see. Do I qualify as a gimmick account? ??? My name is taken from Batman.
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ironagemodwarning.JPG
You're currently being watched by an assortment of Iron Age dweebs who will report all back to Iron Age ASAP. ;D
Some of their moderators and Perrine are on here from time to time, and now that this happened they'll be in a tizzy. Frightening.
I posted a comparison pic between Ronnie and Haney,post lasted 3 minutes.
wtf? ???
I haven't been to ironage in a while, but i liked that place cause they knew who i was and didn't care, as long as i played nice there.
they banned me for posting a friggin harmless picture?
This is the lamest shit ever. lol.
They have a thread over there about this thread :)yesss!!!!! ;D
i got banned!!! ;D
posted tons of stuff in a short time...none of it was bad though.
Yes Ron these assclowns obviously have an axe to grind.
216.211.25.103 is their IP....lmao..enjoy! ;D
heehee
I don't know what to do with someone's ip address anyway...lol...
One note though, when I slapped getbig into the search to see if they had a thread about this thread...I got 12 pages. We appear to be quite the subject on conversation over there. ;)
I agree each to their own, and this board is very negative sometimes...I just cannot get to sleep, and am bored so that is why I'm all in it.
One note though, when I slapped getbig into the search to see if they had a thread about this thread...I got 12 pages. We appear to be quite the subject on conversation over there. ;)
What do they say? ;D
ahhh IP networking 101..ANY ..networking for dummies book will tell ya this..
run,,,
start....
<type>
cmd (for command prompt)
ping www.anysite.com
voila!
i'm prolly creating more bidniss for forewalls..but eh..you can get a decent one for $100...now to set it up..takes people like moi! :D
btw ron..this whole
Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post. thing is fucking annoying..
NOONE reviews their posts >:(
Yeah, it takes great skill to use a WHOIS database. ::)
IP addresses don't mean jack shit. ISP's won't give out your personal information unless faced with a court order.
must i spoon feed yall >:(
Bill Pearl became my idol after reading about him. Dude gets up at 3:30 AM to lift before work.
It's 3:15 AM and I"m still awake lol... I'm the Anti-Pearl.
Bill Pearl became my idol after reading about him. Dude gets up at 3:30 AM to lift before work.
It's 3:15 AM and I"m still awake lol... I'm the Anti-Pearl.
Yeah it's 4:20am here. I have not slept all night and I have to make work at 5:30am.It will be a long day :-\
Ok - lets get one thing straight first. Shawn Perrine is a cool guy. He made a board for Bodybuilding as it used to be, and maintains his board the way he wants it to. I respect him for that. He keeps the board tight, and if he or his mods don't want you there, or think you are promoting negatively the sport, you are gone.
Isn't there enought negativity already on the boards. The fact the Shawn wants to keep in postivie is in no ways bad. Is his is boards, it is his choice. If you don't like it, DON"T GO THERE.
Even now, on Getbig, there is way too much negativity, and while some of you are complaining, enough is enough. Some of the posts here are way out of line... and yes, while you are free to make your choice, you are not free to troll and just spew negativity post after post.
After all, we all are here to be entertained and some of us are getting tired of seeing some guys completely be negative each post. You know who you are.
Now, leave Ironage.us alone. This isn't a game. That is a good site, for positive purists. I can't beleive that some of you are complaining about other boards..
Talk about Getbig, enjoy Getbig, but leave the other boards alone. If you don't like it, change the channel. That is your prerogative. So they banned you --- boo hoo.
There are some awesome pics on that board.
I only read like 3. The thread about this one, the one where Hulkster was called deranged, and another general one about how we are all 14 year old kids.lol look at all of their physiques in the picture forum. hey all are about 180-200 lbs 15-17 unch arm dweebs. hahaha..ohh man what losers. "classical physiqus" hahaha...."celebrating the champions of the past" oh brother...yeah right, more like looking up to other guys with horrible genetics for raw mass. ;D
i didn't say nothing about personal info...
if an ip is open to ping...i can <ahem> hook up a plain jane $150 router (cisco 2500) to the network and send massive ping packets (1500 bytes) anfd quickly over load the buffers of the server that hold the site eh..
1) buffers overload
2) buffers drop packets
3) site goes bye bye ;)
must i spoon feed yall >:(
I dont see what the fuss is about
I have found the moderators to be fair and consistent.
No, there were awesomes pics.
They have banned all the guys who were posting nice pics.
Now, there are only shit pics (they even don't know how to use a scanner correctly...)
It is not a board, it is a sect.
What he fails to point out is that denial of service attacks such as these get yourself in a spot of bother with the authorities.
This is total bullshit. You don't have a clue of what goes on at Ironage.
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ironageban.JPG
Someone asked what LMFAO and I said it means "Laughing my fucking ass off."
::)
The owner of the site Shawn Perrine is a reasonable person and I've a lot of pleasant communication with him and he's helped me out here and there with some questions I've had regarding copyright issues. Nothing against him at all, but I will say one thing about ironage: if you have your own opinion that differs from the norm you WILL be banned for it. I guarantee that. Notice how Bluevan said it was a long time coming? I had a history of having my own opinion. ::)
I'll be the first to say that getbig takes things too far sometimes, and some stuff is rude and disrespectful but over there you aren't even allowed to respectfully disagree. I'm not kidding when I say you can't have your own opinion without being ostracized or in my case banned. The board is very close minded when it comes to bodybuilding. It really shows their extreme lack of confidence in their own opinions when they can only post them on a board where the rules require agreeing with them.
This mod warning really says it all. I said that eighties pros had "moderate" physiques in some posts and they were deleted and I was given a warning:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ironagemodwarning.JPG
There are some awesome pics on that board. I luckily still have access to the board through a friend's account so that I can still steal their scans to post here. ;D
I would hate to see anyone who is offended by the horrid EFF word actually face real world stressors.
LOL - you mean the stresses of the 1970's? :D
I too hate censorship of "bad words" - feels like my life is a badly edited TBS movie. We are all adults in the bb internet community. Censorship of "cuss words ::)" has no place.
I really want to post a "Who's better?" - Ronnie or Zane (with legitimate pics) and see if the fact that, GASP! I think Ronnie looks better will get me banned.
And that is what most people complain about:
At ironage, you can't have an opinion - it must fit the central dogma of the site.
If it differs from the "central dogma" - ie all 1960/70's bodbuilders destroy anyone today, you get banned. You are not allowed to think that a current champ is better than an "ironage champ". And worse, they use offseason pics of guys like Ronnie, Jay et al and compare them to contest pics from the 70's ::)
That seems to be the issue.
Well, that and the fact that they have no sense of humour whatsoever.
I am registered there, and have been for a while, but of course, someone is probably reading this post, so I'll be banned before I even get a chance to post my "photo essay"..
In case you haven't noticed: I avoid ironage like the plague. But then again, I guess many people do.
Dammit wat happened to my thread!!! >:(
Like most of your posts full of nonsense , I've posted pleanty of times of things that didn't go well with others and nothing ever happened and whats ironic is Shawn said himself the best anyone has appeared on a bodybuilding stage was Ronnie Coleman 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic winner , so when the owner of the site says the modern age guy is better than any of the Ironage guys directly contradicts your lame assesment .
The only problem I have with Iron Age is how they glorify bodybuilders of the 70's and 80's, as if Arnold, Sergio, and Lee Haney weren't hardcore drug users. The true "Iron Age" ended in 1960-1963, when steroids became widely available.
the mods won't ban him.
He wasn't the only who felt 2001 ASC Ronnie was the best , so to say they ban anyone who even tries to say Ronnie is better than anyone before him is just nonsense .
the biggest problem I have is that:
1) todays champions are not given ANY credit at all
(eg. how many thread about " Who has the best ever biceps or back" do you see on "regular boards" that do not even mention Ronnie's name?) -sorry, even if you are not a Ronnie fan, he deserves credit for a few freaky bodyparts.
2) 1998 ronnie was trashed in thier "Rank the Mr. Olympia's" thread - they placed Larry Fuckin' Scott and Frank Zane ahead for christs sake.
Now, I realize that not everyone is a "ronnie fan" (but they should be ;)) but placing Larry Scott in his 1965 shape above a more "modern" champ like 1998 Ronnie is a little to DELUSIONAL for my liking.
Hence, why I never go there.
And, reading their thread about "GetBig's Invasion" has got me feeling too much like an asshole to post my photo essay...
But I might once all this blows over.. 8)
At ironage, you can't have an opinion - it must fit the central dogma of the site.
If it differs from the "central dogma" - ie all 1960/70's bodbuilders destroy anyone today, you get banned. You are not allowed to think that a current champ is better than an "ironage champ". And worse, they use offseason pics of guys like Ronnie, Jay et al and compare them to contest pics from the 70's
That seems to be the issue.
Well, that and the fact that they have no sense of humour whatsoever.
I am registered there, and have been for a while, but of course, someone is probably reading this post, so I'll be banned before I even get a chance to post my "photo essay"..
In case you haven't noticed: I avoid ironage like the plague. But then again, I guess many people do.
I got banned for naming my facorite top 5 physiques of all time. ::)
I have a lot of things they probably lack: my youth, my hairline, ability to get with young hot women, etc. Sounds petty...
Stop whinning like a bitch and start posting sense.
They are watching my everymove from their headquarters.. so is doggcrapp, musclemayhem and professionalmuscle lol
And that's something you're proud of ? ::)
The only thing that is worthwhile about the Ironage board is the old pictures. It is pointless to even read the threads. It is a broken record. The worst discussion board in the industry BY FAR.
They banned me too , about two dozen times LOL
No, there were awesomes pics.
They have banned all the guys who were posting nice pics.
Now, there are only shit pics (they even don't know how to use a scanner correctly...)
It is not a board, it is a sect.
Forget about excessive moderation, censorship, and getting banned. This is all you need to know about ironage.us.
Warning!
Only registered members are allowed to access this section.
Please login below or register an account with IRON AGE FORUMS.
What possible harm could be caused by letting interested people READ the forums? IMHO, requiring registration just to READ the forums is totally irrational and borders on paranoia.
If the site owner is truly interested in telling the world how wonderful bodybuilders were in the good old days, why wouldn't he want to make it easy for everyone to read the forums?
Well if you were posting Robby Robinson pictures intentionally I can understand why you were banned. ;D
To think that FLEX and GMV listened to his requests to remove his pictures - pictures he had no right to make such requests about.
I have no problems posting these pictures - they are property of www.ifbbtv.com and not Robby!
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/27.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/mrolympia1987/30.jpg)
You were banned for experessing an opinion, but it's a great site? ???
I agree that some of the opinions on that board are bordering on what could probably be classed as delusional. I say this coming from an extensive background in psychology.
yeah i dont post there too often as i found early on that there is to be NO differences of opinion there...they trash modern pros to their hearts content but god help you if you say anything disparaging about any of their idols...there is no doubt that they all live in a like-minded bubble and anyone challenging that will be flamed.
Do you agree that others can have their own bodybuilding sites and run them as they like? If so, then your posts here amount to some sort of crusade that you are a victim or something.
Actaully you can dog the current bbers, except the ones Shawn Perine is friends with. Basically you have to be able to read Perine's mind to last there. I was banned for making a negative remark about Vince Mcmahon and how he has turned wrestling into a porno show and treats the wrestlers like animals. I was just stating that I didn't respect him as he has no morals. Vince is supposedly Perine's "friend" (I doubt Vince has a clue who he is, but Perine claims they are close) so I guess all the things he has done to the wrestlers and the things he has put on his shows that children are watching is O.K. Perine acts like the IA site is some kind of moral high-ground of bbing, yet if someone is his "friend" they get a free pass. I never used profanity or personally attacked anyone. He posts about how distorted the current scene is, but if you make a joke about Ronnie or Jay's gut, he warns you about personal attacks. LOL. ::)
It all reminds me of Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite. The one who tried desperately to travel back in time. I really felt sorry for him. I shouldn't feel bad for being banned by a bunch of old guys whose probably only sanctuary from life is some internet message board where alternate opinion is disallowed. I have a lot of things they probably lack: my youth, my hairline, ability to get with young hot women, etc. Sounds petty but for ANYONE to take a message board as seriously as they do really speaks for their character and quality of life and not in a good way. Am I reading too much into this? I doubt it.
I'm happy this thread exists. I feel it's important to warn others of what goes on over there.
Jesus Christ! Let it Fucking Go! You want the "Balanced" truth? Ironage is filled with tight assed stuffy old men and Getbig is populated with nerdy pimple faced teenage trolls. f**k, is anyone really going to argue that?! Ok, so, we've got the "rebelious" youth VS. the "establishment." It has been done before..... again and again and again..... Why is anyone with half a brain really getting upset over all this? Well, because, again it's the stuffy old men vs. the teenage punks. And, when you fit well into either category, you just can't help yourself.
I've been reprimanded or attacked on both boards for basically nothing. Has anyone, I mean, anyone ever not been attatcked unfairly at some point? On here, I post a pic of my upper body in a thread and the first response is, "No legs." Yeah, fantastic. Over on Ironage I say that Ronnie would destroy Arnold in a real vs at certain points in each's career (i.e. Ronnie at his best vs. Arnold) and Shawn says, that's not a fair statement to make as they are different eras- when that was what the whole thread was about!- comparing the different eras' best bodies! But, I don't have anything against Shawn or whoever else here or there. You just have to accept people's shortcomings and then it's not a problem- try it sometime, it's a whole new world...
As far as "there house there rules" go, that's true. Over here I EXPECT to get flamed for ANYTHING I post or about any possible thing IN my post. It's a fucking given. Over there I expect to get yelled at if I say something "negative" especially talking about steroid use in the old days. It's called reality. Nothings perfect. But to freak out about it speaks more about the person not being able to roll with the punches more than anything. I'm not throwing stones here. The truth is, we all feel slighted from time to time. We all get pissed and pissed on and no one likes it.
J.
P.S. And pretty freaking please will somebody, anybody reply with "Support Getbig!" It just wouldn't be the same without it.
Boiled Over.
Also, where are these huge and strong guys supposedly at every gym? When I go, my training partner and I are the only ones to consistently bench 225+ for reps, deadlift 315+ for reps, and do everything else at the same level - a level anyone on here many would consider weak. Yet it's a rarity to see anyone bench 225 at any gym I've been to. Maybe I just live in a weak city or something, or maybe people on boards just like to lift with their mouths (not sure which one).
You live in Canada Matt so maybe the sport isn't as big up there , but any gym I've ever been to I've perosnally seen many guys warm-up with 225 in the bench and do 300+ for reps , one gym I used to go to I've personally seen a cop do 315lbs behind the neck presses for reps !! a powerlifter do a single with 585lbs in the bench press , the whole gym litteraly stopped to watch him , at the same gym there was a kid just 17 years old at the time who bench OVER 400lbs for a single it was a state record , I've seen people squat 600lbs for reps , the gym I go to now I've seen more than one guy do 315lbs on the incline bench for reps , 1000lb leg presses for full reps , and thats just the things I can recall off the top of my head !!all of that was extremely impressive except for the leg press..hahaha...why did you throw in that shitty lift?
Did I ever deny this? ??? After giving it some thought it's not even that I have poor genetics for building mass, just a very weak appetite whereby eating anything more than half a sandwich and a glass of milk in a day is a chore for me. I ate very little growing up and it's hard for a body to adjust to 19 years of habit. Same goes for overweight people trying to lean out. But I still continually try. Say what you will about sarcasm and THE TRUE ADONIS, but both those guys helped me out with my appetite problem more than anyone. I've found almost everyone on this board to be reasonable when you open up to them.
Also, where are these huge and strong guys supposedly at every gym? When I go, my training partner and I are the only ones to consistently bench 225+ for reps, deadlift 315+ for reps, and do everything else at the same level - a level anyone on here many would consider weak. Yet it's a rarity to see anyone bench 225 at any gym I've been to. ??? Maybe I just live in a weak city or something, or maybe people on boards just like to lift with their mouths (not sure which one).
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/IMGP4522.JPG)
It's not exactly like I was dealt the best hand for bodybuilding. I work with what I have.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/matt_oldpic2_new.JPG)
This is a strawman attack and is patently false. Just because I don't think Larry Scott's 1966 physique is better than Ronnie's does not mean I'm putting down ironage bodybuilders. I have said numerous times on boards and in my reviews that I would much prefer to look like Frank Zane over Ronnie. This does not mean I would ever place Frank Zane higher in a bodybuilding contest. I think most of us saying that would prefer Frank's build over Ronnie's. We simply acknowledge that Ronnie is the superior bodybuilder based on what is and what should be judged. This is no diss on Frank's physique which I consider to be a work of art, but that is reality.
And on a side note, how did ironage fans expect for bodybuilding to evolve? ??? If they honestly think those morphed pictures of Sergio and Arnold are in any way realistic they are being naive. If the champs from the past competed today and increased dosages, guess what? They would look like the current crop. That is reality. To think Sergio would keep a sub 30 inch waist while developing Ronnie's upper body mass is unrealistic at best.
This is the same type of double standard Tim Wescott demonstrated that I simply cannot respect.
You live in Canada Matt so maybe the sport isn't as big up there , but any gym I've ever been to I've perosnally seen many guys warm-up with 225 in the bench and do 300+ for reps , one gym I used to go to I've personally seen a cop do 315lbs behind the neck presses for reps !! a powerlifter do a single with 585lbs in the bench press , the whole gym litteraly stopped to watch him , at the same gym there was a kid just 17 years old at the time who bench OVER 400lbs for a single it was a state record , I've seen people squat 600lbs for reps , the gym I go to now I've seen more than one guy do 315lbs on the incline bench for reps , 1000lb leg presses for full reps , and thats just the things I can recall off the top of my head !!
all of that was extremely impressive except for the leg press..hahaha...why did you throw in that shitty lift?
Full reps with 1000lbs isn't shity , it is when you have jackasses doing them with a 1/4" movement , these were slow full range movements done for 10 reps .
You live in Canada Matt so maybe the sport isn't as big up there , but any gym I've ever been to I've perosnally seen many guys warm-up with 225 in the bench and do 300+ for reps , one gym I used to go to I've personally seen a cop do 315lbs behind the neck presses for reps !! a powerlifter do a single with 585lbs in the bench press , the whole gym litteraly stopped to watch him , at the same gym there was a kid just 17 years old at the time who bench OVER 400lbs for a single it was a state record , I've seen people squat 600lbs for reps , the gym I go to now I've seen more than one guy do 315lbs on the incline bench for reps , 1000lb leg presses for full reps , and thats just the things I can recall off the top of my head !!
What an utter wanker. Matt C posts some honest facts about himself, in no way was he bragging and your riposte is this garbage.
Full reps with 1000lbs isn't shity , it is when you have jackasses doing them with a 1/4" movement , these were slow full range movements done for 10 reps .
1000 for full reps is serious weight.
What are you his girlfriend? he asked a question , I responded , what are you getting your panties in a bunch for ?
This from the guy who is in love with Dorian Yates. ::)
This from the guy who is in love with Dorian Yates. ::)
this coming from Bob Chic's oil-boy.
I've never met him, but from what I hear, he's a wonderful man.
translation: 'yes i would rub scented lotions on his testicles and enjoy every minute of it.'
translation: 'yes i would rub scented lotions on his testicles and enjoy every minute of it.'
I agree with Matt to a certain extent. I've only seen a handful of guys who were truly strong on the powerlifts, and they were all gigantic human beings. Even the most hardcore gyms don't have many people benching 400 and deadlifting 600.
Most of the people on this board just plain lie about or misrepresent their lifts. I think it's funny that every Getbigger can leg press 1000 for reps, hack squat 5 plates a side for reps, and bench press 150 lb dumbbells for reps. I've seen extremely strong men struggle with those same weights. I'm talking about guys who can bench 450 and squat 600.
You translate english into your native tongue :o impressive. Didn't know Gay was an official language until you pointed it out! :o
I agree with Matt to a certain extent. I've only seen a handful of guys who were truly strong on the powerlifts, and they were all gigantic human beings. Even the most hardcore gyms don't have many people benching 400 and deadlifting 600.
Most of the people on this board just plain lie about or misrepresent their lifts. I think it's funny that every Getbigger can leg press 1000 for reps, hack squat 5 plates a side for reps, and bench press 150 lb dumbbells for reps. I've seen extremely strong men struggle with those same weights. I'm talking about guys who can bench 450 and squat 600.
You translate english into your native tongue :o impressive. Didn't know Gay was an official language until you pointed it out! :o
And there is Alexx on cue when someone states the word lotion and testicles in the same sentence.
So Alexx how are you doing on the 'Focusing' ??
Something that MD, ironage, and mayhem should take note of right now: the reason why every pro and industry insider reads what WE at getbig write more than anything else is because board rules don't require us to kiss feet.
When we say a pro looks good - he DOES. It is an honest statement and means a lot more than reading comments on a board where you will get banned for not being positive.
End of story. And the pros in question know who they are. They're reading this right now after all. 8)
Hulkster you are deranged if you don't believe that dorians arms are better than ronnies!!
dorians arms are better than ronnies!!Dorian had some of the best spaghetti arms out there. :D
I do those :)
I know Alexx, you can leg press 1000 pounds with only one leg. :)
exactly.
That is why many hate the "rules" on ironage: if being honest means being negative (eg. Arnold's toothpick quads or undersized triceps) you are looked down upon or banned.
Getbig is the best board on the net because it allows freedom of expression and honest opinions.
Apparently, they were talking about me over there, saying I was "deranged" LOL - best news I have had all day! 8)
Oh please , honest opinions and freedom of expression? I've never had anything deleted on Ironage and I've had more than a handfull of posts on GetBig deleted and so has many others if anything GetBig censors and Ironage doesn't
And put Arnold's quads into context , toothpicks by todays standards , sure , now rewind 35 years Arnold's quads were on par with his contemporaries , Ronnie's calves however on NOT on par with his contemporaries and not up any standards past or present
And stop the B.S. that people get banned from Ironage for having a contradictory opinion , thats utter garbage , people get banned for NOT following their rules and they warned people beforehand that they are pushing the limits , and a LOT of Ironagers like the current scene , many raved about Gunthers condition that the 05 Olympia , there are many Pros today that look fantastic but they're not winning contests , Jojo Ntiforo , David Henry , Mark Dugdale , Troy Alves , etc
Oh please , honest opinions and freedom of expression? I've never had anything deleted on Ironage and I've had more than a handfull of posts on GetBig deleted and so has many others if anything GetBig censors and Ironage doesn't
And put Arnold's quads into context , toothpicks by todays standards , sure , now rewind 35 years Arnold's quads were on par with his contemporaries , Ronnie's calves however on NOT on par with his contemporaries and not up any standards past or present
And stop the B.S. that people get banned from Ironage for having a contradictory opinion , thats utter garbage , people get banned for NOT following their rules and they warned people beforehand that they are pushing the limits , and a LOT of Ironagers like the current scene , many raved about Gunthers condition that the 05 Olympia , there are many Pros today that look fantastic but they're not winning contests , Jojo Ntiforo , David Henry , Mark Dugdale , Troy Alves , etc ,
How much did Shawn pay you? :-\
I got a year subscription to Flex :P
And stop the B.S. that people get banned from Ironage for having a contradictory opinion ,
I think Ironage.us gives us a chance to look back at the mistakes of bodybuilding and how we got to the mess we are at today....
discuss
http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=8059.0
I think jaejonna has previously posted on ironage about how much he dislikes getbig.
Ergo I think jaejonna is an incredibly twofaced shit stirrer.
Discuss that you little twat...
the thing that is amazing is you have guys like ND saying that we are all crazy, yet all you have to do is log on and look for their "rank the olympians" thread for a perfect example of the sort of stuff that this monster thread is talking about:
someone picked a guy as the best of the Olympians (1998 Ronnie) and they were told by a moderator "there are other boards that celebrate bodybuilding post 1990 - why not post there?"- there you have your proof.
Comments?
that sort of thing really pisses me off - you are not allowed to like ironage guys and post there yet at the same time happen to think that a current champ might be better - you get invited to LEAVE...
I guess all of the "rumors" are true :-\
The mod asked a question , hence the little " ? " it wasn't a demand , they wern't banned ,and still posts .
but it certainly was an unfriendly comment, which is what a lot of this thread has been about:
the general tone of the board is very unwelcoming to freedom of opinion.
You have to share in their exact collective opinion or you are made to feel unwelcome.
you can't deny this - the proof is right there in the thread about the olympians.
Why can't the board realize that there are many out there who love ironage bodybuilders (and would like to contribute to the board) but still might think on occasion that a current champ might be better?
You should not be made to feel unwelcome for this opinion.
But at ironage you are.
This is what many are complaining about.
Hulkster you have an Axe to grind with Ironage , you really do , stop acting like a crusader for peoples feelings , if you don't feel welcomed don't post its that simple , I posted I don't think Shawn Ray is great on Ironage and that opinion was met with very strong oppostion and I didn't cry " I don't feel welcomed " and don't be a fucking hypocrite every time I post an opinion on Frank Zane on this site the collective mass gang up on me and calls him a swimmer and he sucks blah blah blah , that opinion isn't welcomed but you aren't the welcome wagon then are you? no you're to busy joining in , but the diffence is I'M NOT CRYING ABOUT IT , people have opinions they differ greatly , thats what these boards are for , saying your peace , if you have no confidence in your opinion and your opinion is based on strangers reactions , you really shouldn't be on a message board , go to Pogo and be happy .
I think jaejonna has previously posted on ironage about how much he dislikes getbig.
Ergo I think jaejonna is an incredibly twofaced shit stirrer.
Discuss that you little twat... :-*
Hulkster you have an Axe to grind with Ironage , you really do , stop acting like a crusader for peoples feelings , if you don't feel welcomed don't post its that simple , I posted I don't think Shawn Ray is great on Ironage and that opinion was met with very strong oppostion and I didn't cry " I don't feel welcomed "
When you wake up in the middle of the night , sweating, crying, and wishing it would just all go away ..know one thing..
I own3d you. I dwarf SustaBob
Someone above said it was rather lame of Shawn to run a site like that given that he is a writer. I infer this to mean that as a writer he should be open minded, in which case I agree.
He was always a class act to me on that board though. It reminds of a family restaurant in town with terrible management but the owner is a nice guy. Either (a) the owner just didn't care to supervise what his management was doing, or (b) the owner was in favour of it but didn't want to be the one with the responsibility of enforcing unreasonable rules and looking like a jerk.
Kind of like when you call Verizon technical support. They get an agent to tell you that you are being fucked over because the executives won't do it themselves. But ultimately it is the people in charge who are doing the damage and not the agent telling you the damage has already been done.
My fault of course. And whose fault is it when women go to jail for leaving their home in Afghanistan? ::)
Oh please ::) I'm sure you've been told that you're very melodramatic , but get serious Matt its a bodybuilding message board
My fault of course. And whose fault is it when women go to jail for leaving their home in Afghanistan? ::)
You're telling someone to get serious when you're the one who claimed Dorian had better arms than Ronnie? ::)
If you want to quote me do it in context , I did say Dorian has better triceps & forearms and Coleman has better biceps ;)
The point of this post wasn't that I was at fault. The point was to discuss how unreasonable the rules are.
If you want to quote me do it in context , I did say Dorian has better triceps & forearms and Coleman has better biceps ;)You said he had better overall arms, didnt you! ;D
The point of this post wasn't that I was at fault. The point was to discuss how unreasonable the rules are.
Yes my example was pretty extreme, but you know what I mean.
LOL! The constant repetition of that picture makes me look pretty lame.
You said he had better overall arms, didnt you! ;D
If I keep typing LOL!!!!! maybe they'll really believe I think it's funny, but on second thought I doubt it - I've been talkin so much bullchit on here the buckets full
You do the math , better triceps and forearms , thats 2 out of 3 I say thats better overall ;)In theory, yes, but in reality when compared side by side, Dorians arms are just no comparison to Ronnie's. Its pretty clear to anyone so Im not even gonna argue abt it.
I'll never be a man - I like crying like a little biotch too much
I'll be a man by saying that that particular comment was out of line. Inappropriate and not conducive to good conversation.
Now you be a man and admit that you were smoking 40X salvia extract from a gravity bong when you said that Dorian had better overall arms than Ronnie. ;D
Actually blah blah blah blah blah - is anyone still listening to me :o
You do the math , better triceps and forearms , thats 2 out of 3 I say thats better overall ;)
Except that Dorian's triceps look worse in the front and rear double biceps poses. They only look better in the side triceps. Ronnie has better triceps.
Stick to the topic at hand !! ;) >:( >:(
Actually you guys all deserve my actual big thanks for actually listening to my actual bullchit
did I mention I actually have several degrees actually from the U of blah blah blah
and I actually have an extensive background in blah blah blah
actually I also have intensive experience in blah with an emphasis on blah blah
so everyone listen to me - (I'm begging you - actually)
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Is that your kid? :-\
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If your kid is a clown, what does that make you? ;D
actually how did you guys actually like my last post. I actually managed to actually keep my bullchit talking mouth shut - Im actually learning something and becoming extensively knowledgeable in actually shutting up
I think jaejonna has previously posted on ironage about how much he dislikes getbig.
Ergo I think jaejonna is an incredibly twofaced shit stirrer.
Discuss that you little twat... :-*
Actually, sustabob has a point... found this with a quick search...
http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=8110.0
Loos like you are backstabbing your getbig brothers to me, jaejonna...
its totally amazing that the guys over at ironage can bash getbig while at the same time they won't even allow people to post their opinions.
I really hope they are all reading this thread - even they must know from all these posts how their board comes across.
what good is a message board if you can't post what you want?
Whats next - the ironage mods will select a number of template posts for their members to pick from?
that way THEY will determine what you can say..??
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no doubt I will probably be banned soon. After all, I think my post count over there is 3! LOL.
I thought it was a cool site until I realized how they ran it.
Getbig is awesome.
I haven't seen much bashing of Getbig at all at Ironage? ???
Actually, sustabob has a point... found this with a quick search...
http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=8110.0
Loos like you are backstabbing your getbig brothers to me, jaejonna...
November 2004 is a long time ago. jaejonna seems ok in my book.
Ironage reminds me of a restaurant in town where the owner is a racist (not a comparison to Shawn). He will kick you out if you are a minority most of the time (once the dumb fuck got punched in the face by a Native Canadian when he told him "your kind isn't allowed here). Basically if any minority is showing any kind of undesirable behaviour of any kind he will give them the boot. Say, being tipsy. But if you are white you can get away with a lot more. Obviously a lot of people are tipsy at bars.
On ironage, had I actually been an ironager myself, I would not have been banned for saying the eff word.
This is a point that ND fails to acknowledge. There is obvious bias in that situation. That is also why ND isn't banned for stuff he has said or done which was worse than the stuff I did.
jaejonna seems ok in my book.
irony alert: apparently we can't say f**k on here either ::)