Banned from ironage.us

[candidate2025]

You live in Canada Matt so maybe the sport isn't as big up there , but any gym I've ever been to I've perosnally seen many guys warm-up with 225 in the bench and do 300+ for reps , one gym I used to go to I've personally seen a cop do 315lbs behind the neck presses for reps !! a powerlifter do a single with 585lbs in the bench press , the whole gym litteraly stopped to watch him , at the same gym there was a kid just 17 years old at the time who bench OVER 400lbs for a single it was a state record , I've seen people squat 600lbs for reps , the gym I go to now I've seen more than one guy do 315lbs on the incline bench for reps , 1000lb leg presses for full reps , and thats just the things I can recall off the top of my head !!

all of that was extremely impressive except for the leg press..hahaha...why did you throw in that shitty lift?

[Dingleberry]

Did I ever deny this?     After giving it some thought it's not even that I have poor genetics for building mass, just a very weak appetite whereby eating anything more than half a sandwich and a glass of milk in a day is a chore for me.  I ate very little growing up and it's hard for a body to adjust to 19 years of habit.  Same goes for overweight people trying to lean out.  But I still continually try.  Say what you will about sarcasm and THE TRUE ADONIS, but both those guys helped me out with my appetite problem more than anyone.  I've found almost everyone on this board to be reasonable when you open up to them.

Also, where are these huge and strong guys supposedly at every gym?  When I go, my training partner and I are the only ones to consistently bench 225+ for reps, deadlift 315+ for reps, and do everything else at the same level - a level anyone on here many would consider weak.  Yet it's a rarity to see anyone bench 225 at any gym I've been to.     Maybe I just live in a weak city or something, or maybe people on boards just like to lift with their mouths (not sure which one).



It's not exactly like I was dealt the best hand for bodybuilding.  I work with what I have.



This is a strawman attack and is patently false.  Just because I don't think Larry Scott's 1966 physique is better than Ronnie's does not mean I'm putting down ironage bodybuilders.  I have said numerous times on boards and in my reviews that I would much prefer to look like Frank Zane over Ronnie.  This does not mean I would ever place Frank Zane higher in a bodybuilding contest.  I think most of us saying that would prefer Frank's build over Ronnie's.  We simply acknowledge that Ronnie is the superior bodybuilder based on what is and what should be judged.  This is no diss on Frank's physique which I consider to be a work of art, but that is reality.

And on a side note, how did ironage fans expect for bodybuilding to evolve?     If they honestly think those morphed pictures of Sergio and Arnold are in any way realistic they are being naive.  If the champs from the past competed today and increased dosages, guess what?  They would look like the current crop.  That is reality.  To think Sergio would keep a sub 30 inch waist while developing Ronnie's upper body mass is unrealistic at best.

This is the same type of double standard Tim Wescott demonstrated that I simply cannot respect.

Nice comeback. Honesty trumps insult.

[LuciusFox]

You live in Canada Matt so maybe the sport isn't as big up there , but any gym I've ever been to I've perosnally seen many guys warm-up with 225 in the bench and do 300+ for reps , one gym I used to go to I've personally seen a cop do 315lbs behind the neck presses for reps !! a powerlifter do a single with 585lbs in the bench press , the whole gym litteraly stopped to watch him , at the same gym there was a kid just 17 years old at the time who bench OVER 400lbs for a single it was a state record , I've seen people squat 600lbs for reps , the gym I go to now I've seen more than one guy do 315lbs on the incline bench for reps , 1000lb leg presses for full reps , and thats just the things I can recall off the top of my head !!

  Aren't you special

[NarcissisticDeity]

all of that was extremely impressive except for the leg press..hahaha...why did you throw in that shitty lift?

Full reps with 1000lbs isn't shity , it is when you have jackasses doing them with a 1/4" movement , these were slow full range movements done for 10 reps .

[hillbilly]

Full reps with 1000lbs isn't shity , it is when you have jackasses doing them with a 1/4" movement , these were slow full range movements done for 10 reps .

I agree i go no higher than 880lbs but they are good reps! my squat is 405lbs so i think thats balanced

[sculpture]

You live in Canada Matt so maybe the sport isn't as big up there , but any gym I've ever been to I've perosnally seen many guys warm-up with 225 in the bench and do 300+ for reps , one gym I used to go to I've personally seen a cop do 315lbs behind the neck presses for reps !! a powerlifter do a single with 585lbs in the bench press , the whole gym litteraly stopped to watch him , at the same gym there was a kid just 17 years old at the time who bench OVER 400lbs for a single it was a state record , I've seen people squat 600lbs for reps , the gym I go to now I've seen more than one guy do 315lbs on the incline bench for reps , 1000lb leg presses for full reps , and thats just the things I can recall off the top of my head !!

What an utter wanker. Matt C posts some honest facts about himself, in no way was he bragging and your riposte is this garbage.

[Hulkster]

The idea of ironage is cool- a tribute site to bodybuilding's "golden era".

The execution of the idea is bad- a very unfriendly site towards freedom of opinion and freedom of expression. 

The number of posts on this thread shows that the site has earned quite the negative reputation as a result of their 'rules'

I don't post there because, I enjoy talking about our current Mr. Olympia, whom MOST of them hate.

I don't think I would last very long over there, posting pre-gut Ronnie pics when I feel it is relevant to the discussion...


The biggest problem I have is that because they are a "tribute site" you are not allowed to speak the TRUTH when it comes to one of their heroes if it might be negative:

Example: we all know that Arnold in 1980 esp. (and to some extent 1975) had fairly skinny quads for his frame.  That is totally obvious.

Would I be able to say this on Ironage? 

Answer: probably.

BUT: would that comment win me any friends?

Hell no.

Why can't ironage be a "tribute site" while allow its members to say what they feel is correct?

Surely, they can have it both ways-

1. Recognize that bodybuilding has progressed in some ways and gotten worse in others.

2. Recognize that past champions are in some ways better than todays pros but are in some ways WORSE

3. Realize that Arnold and company did not fart rainbows or have skittles flying out their ears - in other words, they were not perfect..

If GetBig had an "ironage-like subforum" it would be amazing- we have freedom over here!

[NarcissisticDeity]

What an utter wanker. Matt C posts some honest facts about himself, in no way was he bragging and your riposte is this garbage.

What are you his girlfriend? he asked a question , I responded , what are you getting your panties in a bunch for ?

[bmacsys]

Full reps with 1000lbs isn't shity , it is when you have jackasses doing them with a 1/4" movement , these were slow full range movements done for 10 reps .

1000 for full reps is serious weight.

[alexxx]

1000 for full reps is serious weight.

I do those

[LuciusFox]

What are you his girlfriend? he asked a question , I responded , what are you getting your panties in a bunch for ?

  This from the guy who is in love with Dorian Yates.

[NarcissisticDeity]

  This from the guy who is in love with Dorian Yates.

M e l t D o w n !!

[Bast175]

  This from the guy who is in love with Dorian Yates.

this coming from Bob Chic's oil-boy.

[LuciusFox]

this coming from Bob Chic's oil-boy.

 I've never met him, but from what I hear, he's a wonderful man.

[Bast175]

I've never met him, but from what I hear, he's a wonderful man.

translation:  'yes i would rub scented lotions on his testicles and enjoy every minute of it.'

[alexxx]

translation:  'yes i would rub scented lotions on his testicles and enjoy every minute of it.'

You translate english into your native tongue impressive. Didn't know Gay was an official language until you pointed it out!

[LuciusFox]

translation:  'yes i would rub scented lotions on his testicles and enjoy every minute of it.'

   I don't play for that team. I haven't even been to a tryout. You're mistaken.

[brianX]

I agree with Matt to a certain extent. I've only seen a handful of guys who were truly strong on the powerlifts, and they were all gigantic human beings. Even the most hardcore gyms don't have many people benching 400 and deadlifting 600.

Most of the people on this board just plain lie about or misrepresent their lifts. I think it's funny that every Getbigger can leg press 1000 for reps, hack squat 5 plates a side for reps, and bench press 150 lb dumbbells for reps. I've seen extremely strong men struggle with those same weights. I'm talking about guys who can bench 450 and squat 600.

[LuciusFox]

I agree with Matt to a certain extent. I've only seen a handful of guys who were truly strong on the powerlifts, and they were all gigantic human beings. Even the most hardcore gyms don't have many people benching 400 and deadlifting 600.

Most of the people on this board just plain lie about or misrepresent their lifts. I think it's funny that every Getbigger can leg press 1000 for reps, hack squat 5 plates a side for reps, and bench press 150 lb dumbbells for reps. I've seen extremely strong men struggle with those same weights. I'm talking about guys who can bench 450 and squat 600.

  Many people do lie about their numbers, but you can count on me to tell the truth!

[gtbro1]

You translate english into your native tongue impressive. Didn't know Gay was an official language until you pointed it out!

hahahahaha....It is a language spoken by many on this board. 

[gtbro1]

I agree with Matt to a certain extent. I've only seen a handful of guys who were truly strong on the powerlifts, and they were all gigantic human beings. Even the most hardcore gyms don't have many people benching 400 and deadlifting 600.

Most of the people on this board just plain lie about or misrepresent their lifts. I think it's funny that every Getbigger can leg press 1000 for reps, hack squat 5 plates a side for reps, and bench press 150 lb dumbbells for reps. I've seen extremely strong men struggle with those same weights. I'm talking about guys who can bench 450 and squat 600.

You sir, are correct.

[ignorance]

You translate english into your native tongue impressive. Didn't know Gay was an official language until you pointed it out!

And there is Alexx on cue when someone states the word lotion and testicles in the same sentence.

So Alexx how are you doing on the 'Focusing' ??

[pumpster]

"Flex circulation tanks". Must be their writing.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=66921.0

[alexxx]

And there is Alexx on cue when someone states the word lotion and testicles in the same sentence.

So Alexx how are you doing on the 'Focusing' ??

Sight set on victory! 

[Hulkster]

Something that MD, ironage, and mayhem should take note of right now: the reason why every pro and industry insider reads what WE at getbig write more than anything else is because board rules don't require us to kiss feet.

When we say a pro looks good - he DOES.  It is an honest statement and means a lot more than reading comments on a board where you will get banned for not being positive.

End of story.  And the pros in question know who they are.  They're reading this right now after all.   

exactly.

That is why many hate the "rules" on ironage: if being honest means being negative (eg. Arnold's toothpick quads or undersized triceps) you are looked down upon or banned.

Getbig is the best board on the net because it allows freedom of expression and honest opinions.

Apparently, they were talking about me over there, saying I was "deranged" LOL - best news I have had all day!