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He looks slightly better than he did when guest posing in Pittsburgh a few weeks back.
Anyway, the absolute worst Mr. Olympia. Extremely underwhelming and over-rated.
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He looks slightly better than he did when guest posing in Pittsburgh a few weeks back.
Anyway, the absolute worst Mr. Olympia. Extremely underwhelming and over-rated.
Still looks like shit
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Still looks like shit
How's your Mr. Olympia training going?
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How's your Mr. Olympia training going?
Going well.
Given my strict regiment of diet and training, I will likely be stepping on the Mr. O stage as a natural.
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15 weeks is a lifetime in bodybuilding terms. I do agree that he isn't the most radiant and outgoing of the Mr.O winners, but most of them nowadays aren't.
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Going well.
Given my strict regiment of diet and training, I will likely be stepping on the Mr. O stage as a natural.
A strict diet and training will turn Shawn into Mr. O.
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15 weeks is a lifetime in bodybuilding terms. I do agree that he isn't radiant and and outgoing of the Mr.O winners, but most of them nowadays aren't.
Agreed. But compared to the prior Mr. Os, Rhoden is the worst!
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A strict diet and training will turn Shawn into Mr. O.
Not if Heath shows up this year.
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Not if Heath shows up this year.
What if Heath competes naturally?
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2 things I LOVE about bodybuilder guest posing.
The closed fist and little wiggle run with tiny steps with arms moving in a toy soldier fashion. Frequently used when getting off the stage.
I also like the hand being raised in the air with the music going, to pump up the crowd and get a rise in response. This is also sometimes combined with the Closed Fist Shimmy that I mentioned earlier.
Love it.
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2 things I LOVE about bodybuilder guest posing.
The closed fist and little wiggle run with tiny steps with arms moving in a toy soldier fashion. Frequently used when getting off the stage.
I also like the hand being raised in the air with the music going, to pump up the crowd and get a rise in response. This is also sometimes combined with the Closed Fist Shimmy that I mentioned earlier.
Love it.
I think Art Atwood may have done that wiggle run after the 2002 Mr. Olympia contest.
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This has to be the worst shape of an Olympian off season. I’d say worst of any top ten bodybuilder.
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Everyone raving how much better he is here than in Pittsburgh (I don’t fucking see it) ...I have no doubt Shawn will be ready /pull it together by the Mr Olympia (but he is the least motivating ..at least for me Mr Olympia in recent years )
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Im just motivated to see the transition, as a promoter out there just don't get him to guest pose, its no big deal Mr olympia should be about who's the best on the day, he shouldn't have to look like that year round, just don't hire him.
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He looks slightly better than he did when guest posing in Pittsburgh a few weeks back.
Anyway, the absolute worst Mr. Olympia. Extremely underwhelming and over-rated.
Didn’t realize it was September 14th already
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One time Olympia, no triceps, no personality
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I think Art Atwood may have done that wiggle run after the 2002 Mr. Olympia contest.
He couldn’t wiggle his way out of the pool when he had a heart attack and fell in
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I doubt anyone apart from the internet trolls give a shit about him looking soft 15 weeks out. That's bodybuilding. The promoter probably made good money. Look at the crowd. The women there are ready to eat his cum and the guys... well, the guys probably are too, by their reaction.
If you want to get a million views on YouTube, pick him apart and talk shit about his condition 15 weeks out. People get excited over drama.
If you want to be a realist, acknowledge it's the offseason and he's still working towards the Olympia. But... that won't get the million views... or the multiple pages of trolling comments.
But... that's GetBig... and that's the internet.
I dint even watch it lol thats how much I care, he's 15 weeks out and looks every bit of it just from the still vision no point clicking on it, but agree with you in this insta generation its all just bollocks, I just switch off.
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He looks a bit to soft & Small on the upper body.
But as he’s more of a Slim Zane type Competitor & Not a Bloated Michelin Man Type
It’s to be expected.
We’re to used to seeing The Likes of off season Phillsulina/ Roellly ect
Shawn chooses not to go that Route.
Olympia day is when it Matters How Good or Bad He Looks.
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2 things I LOVE about bodybuilder guest posing.
The closed fist and little wiggle run with tiny steps with arms moving in a toy soldier fashion. Frequently used when getting off the stage.
I also like the hand being raised in the air with the music going, to pump up the crowd and get a rise in response. This is also sometimes combined with the Closed Fist Shimmy that I mentioned earlier.
Love it.
Don't forget the palm to the ear to better hear the roaring applause. That was a Jay Cutler favorite. Mine too. It never got old.
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The worlds best physique! But only on one day, can’t stay in moderate shape all yr round it’s much too difficult!
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Shawn is right
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Drugs are amazing. Rhoden just three weeks into a drug regiment will make drastic changes. 15 weeks like someone else said about drugs is a life time. That's why this "sport" is just bull shit.
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90% of the porters are Rhoden apologist. You (All) keep up those apologies when this slacker places between 3-6 in the O. Lazy a$$ just like Cedric McMillan.
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This has got to be a joke.
The dude looks like squirrel shit.
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Drugs are amazing. Rhoden just three weeks into a drug regiment will make drastic changes. 15 weeks like someone else said about drugs is a life time. That's why this "sport" is just bull shit.
1- the icing on the cake
2- You can't turn a chihuahua in to a pitbull
3-there's no substitute for hard work
4- Nobody wants to lift no heavy ass weight .
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH the joke
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Drugs are amazing. Rhoden just three weeks into a drug regiment will make drastic changes. 15 weeks like someone else said about drugs is a life time. That's why this "sport" is just bull shit.
Yes they are - and so is Shawn’s response to them.
Plus the Effect of Muscle Memory.
It’s 2019 Modern Times Things ain’t what they were.
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He will not win this year - seems fat and lazy - obama like. He looked great last year - and won cause Phil was off.
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Don't forget the palm to the ear to better hear the roaring applause. That was a Jay Cutler favorite. Mine too. It never got old.
That was invented by Bob Chic.
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Still looks like shit
2019 Mr Bologna
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DOES HE EVEN LIFT ???
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Looks a little better, but at this point it is safe to say that no matter what he does over the next 15 weeks he will not end up looking *better* than he did last year. Just not enough time to make those kinds of changes. But he could come in looking around the same. I don't think that will win the Mr. O again though.
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Looks a little better, but at this point it is safe to say that no matter what he does over the next 15 weeks he will not end up looking *better* than he did last year. Just not enough time to make those kinds of changes. But he could come in looking around the same. I don't think that will win the Mr. O again though.
Probably not. Will lilkely look slightly worse than last year. Guys are lazy now..just mega dose gear for the last 16 weeks and hope it works.
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Any comparison shots to the last 10 years of his offseason? My guess is he comes into show prep in this shape or near it. He's no spring chicken probably been saving his organs for a blast.
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Any comparison shots to the last 10 years of his offseason? My guess is he comes into show prep in this shape or near it. He's no spring chicken probably been saving his organs for a blast.
He gets it ^^^
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He gets it ^^^
Shawn Ray in his latest vid gets it more than you, even he fears for his health
I’ll take the words of a hall of famer bber who isn’t delusional in this “sport” that at least calls it like it is
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Shawn Ray in his latest vid gets it more than you, even he fears for his health
I’ll take the words of a hall of famer bber who isn’t delusional in this “sport” than at least calls it like it is
Link?
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Link?
Go to the first page of this thread, I posted it
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Go to the first page of this thread, I posted it
I didn't see any comments from Shawn Ray or any from Shawn Rhoden.
I am obviously misunderstanding your point.
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I didn't see any comments from Shawn Ray or any from Shawn Rhoden.
I am obviously misunderstanding your point.
Same here but I guess the video is missing since I'm using a smartphone
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I didn't see any comments from Shawn Ray or any from Shawn Rhoden.
I am obviously misunderstanding your point.
Shawn talks about rhoden and how he fears for his health
Around the 12 min mark Shawn starts talking about health
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Shawn talks about rhoden and how he fears for his health
Around the 12 min mark Shawn starts talking about health
Got it. I usually don't have the patience or interest to watch these bbing discussions, and I'm not a Shawn Ray fan, but this was pretty interesting and insightful.
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He looks the same as Shawn Ray did in those shots of him guest posing that have been posted here many times. Shawn must have forgotten about those pics every time he rips on Rhoden.
Rhoden could stick to a diet that drops his weight and in three weeks would look drastically different from those photos. That's not even counting drugs. Water retention is a big thing and how he looks now is fine. Of course any drastic change is all drugs ::).
He's 44? he's not going to gain more muscle from last year no matter what he does, he's aiming to come in the same or better condition and had a rest from using too many hormones offseason which is why he's still in fucking great shape when it matters at 44 years old. Phil Heath is still better if he doesn't look 7 months pregnant in every shot except he has for the past few years so highly doubt that's going to change if he turns up.
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He looks the same as Shawn Ray did in those shots of him guest posing that have been posted here many times. Shawn must have forgotten about those pics every time he rips on Rhoden.
Rhoden could stick to a diet that drops his weight and in three weeks would look drastically different from those photos. That's not even counting drugs. Water retention is a big thing and how he looks now is fine. Of course any drastic change is all drugs ::).
He's 44? he's not going to gain more muscle from last year no matter what he does, he's aiming to come in the same or better condition and had a rest from using too many hormones offseason which is why he's still in fucking great shape when it matters at 44 years old. Phil Heath is still better if he doesn't look 7 months pregnant in every shot except he has for the past few years so highly doubt that's going to change if he turns up.
Actually on another vid, Shawn Already discussed this, last min fill in guest posing, the only time he wasn’t in “shape”
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Actually on another vid, Shawn Already discussed this, last min fill in guest posing, the only time he wasn’t in “shape”
Fair enough, yet Shawn and even Lee Priest (other than once) always showed up in great shape at shows no matter what their offseason. I don't see why anyone think Rhoden won't drastically change in 3-4 weeks let alone 15. He looks like he's on low dose and eating a bit, 2-3 weeks of cleaning his diet will change him drastically.
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Doesn’t matter what he’ll look like in 15 weeks. He’s already disgraced his title. This is like Usain Bolt showing up 15 weeks prior to the Olympics and getting beat by a high school girl. Or Brian Shaw getting outlifted by a fat boy 15 weeks before the WSM competition.
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Shawn Ray in his latest vid gets it more than you, even he fears for his health
I’ll take the words of a hall of famer bber who isn’t delusional in this “sport” that at least calls it like it is
He's entitled to his opinion. Thanks. I will say I agree with him with the exception of his health. Things have changed since the days of Dallas McCarver and the others that passed before him even the younger bodybuilders are much more cautious and with Shawn’s age (44) I don’t see him being that reckless especially with as old school as Aceto is. If he was being coached by Milos, Nichols, etc I’d be more concerned. That’s my opinion
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15 weeks is a lifetime in bodybuilding terms. I do agree that he isn't the most radiant and outgoing of the Mr.O winners, but most of them nowadays aren't.
Frankly, not since Arnold's era have I seen a Mr. O winner that was both radiant and outgoing when off the stage. All of them, with the exception of Arnold, have been as exciting as watching paint dry.
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Frankly, not since Arnold's era have I seen a Mr. O winner that was both radiant and outgoing when off the stage. All of them, with the exception of Arnold, have been as exciting as watching paint dry.
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Always loved Ronnie's personality. Smiling, laughing, always seems to be happy and having fun.
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Always loved Ronnie's personality. Smiling, laughing, always seems to be happy and having fun.
Certainly had a good personality, but not the type of presence that would make a dent in places like say late night talkshows. Arnold would own those shows and make himself the director leading the event. Ronnie would simply be fed questions.
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He's entitled to his opinion. Thanks. I will say I agree with him with the exception of his health. Things have changed since the days of Dallas McCarver and the others that passed before him even the younger bodybuilders are much more cautious and with Shawn’s age (44) I don’t see him being that reckless especially with as old school as Aceto is. If he was being coached by Milos, Nichols, etc I’d be more concerned. That’s my opinion
The_Coach:
Are mercurial diuretics still a thing?
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Fair enough, yet Shawn and even Lee Priest (other than once) always showed up in great shape at shows no matter what their offseason. I don't see why anyone think Rhoden won't drastically change in 3-4 weeks let alone 15. He looks like he's on low dose and eating a bit, 2-3 weeks of cleaning his diet will change him drastically.
That respectfully is a lie in shawns case, I have seen him turn up in a booked guest posing and look like crap, not far of Rhoden, I will try and find some pics. All guys look like him at some point during their off season with the exception of maybe Jay who really did try to stay in shape year round, Ronnie even when out of shape was still a freak. Rhoden just doesn't have that type of genetic gift. Even Dorian looked huge offseason.
Theres no doubt he's giving his body a good rest and in doing so most likely prolonging his time in the sport, I don't think the transformation is that taxing on the body when you have been doing it year in year out.
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That respectfully is a lie in shawns case, I have seen him turn up in a booked guest posing and look like crap, not far of Rhoden, I will try and find some pics. All guys look like him at some point during their off season with the exception of maybe Jay who really did try to stay in shape year round, Ronnie even when out of shape was still a freak. Rhoden just doesn't have that type of genetic gift. Even Dorian looked huge offseason.
Theres no doubt he's giving his body a good rest and in doing so most likely prolonging his time in the sport, I don't think the transformation is that taxing on the body when you have been doing it year in year out.
Rhoden is mr O, not Shawn, which he was trying to make, rhoden wanted more money in another event and the promoter declined him and hired Roelly instead
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Frankly, not since Arnold's era have I seen a Mr. O winner that was both radiant and outgoing when off the stage. All of them, with the exception of Arnold, have been as exciting as watching paint dry.
Although not a Mr Olympia Winner ( Robbed in 81 )
Tom Platz always came across well - Had Some Charisma About Him.
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Three weeks and 5 Anadrol 50 tabs and a high protein diet and I can look like Mark Wahlberg in FEAR, sans the abs.
I could NEVER look that good without drugs.
Yeah, steroids work.
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Doesn’t matter what he’ll look like in 15 weeks. He’s already disgraced his title. This is like Usain Bolt showing up 15 weeks prior to the Olympics and getting beat by a high school girl. Or Brian Shaw getting outlifted by a fat boy 15 weeks before the WSM competition.
Bolt peaks for events too with both training and juice. The same as Rhoden is doing.
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I see Brandon Curry winning
Rhoden is going to be Dickerson 2.0 and dexter, one hit wonders
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I see Brandon Curry winning
Rhoden is going to be Dickerson 2.0 and dexter, one hit wonders
that is a good call.
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Going back to the very first thread after he guest posed at the Pittsburgh Pro, Shawn (Rhoden) just underscored everything I said in his defense about what his year was like with protecting his health, being with family and putting them and his health first and especially his travel schedule throughout the year right up until he started his prep. People (including Shawn Ray) said he wasn’t training, I said I was there everyday watching him train, I also said because of his busy travel schedule (with Stan Longeaux aka: Stanimal in most) that he was doing an excellent job as a representative as Mr. Olympia.
But no, the “experts” on here (in true getbig fashion) as well as other platforms including that putz that calls himself an “expert” Nick Trigili Who, like you guys and Shawn Ray would rather shit all over the guy without one bit of critical thinking or at the very least take into consideration that this is what he’s always done in the off-season. It only counts the day of the show.
Most wont take the time to watch this 34min interview
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Certainly had a good personality, but not the type of presence that would make a dent in places like say late night talkshows. Arnold would own those shows and make himself the director leading the event. Ronnie would simply be fed questions.
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Good point.
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Going back to the very first thread after he guest posed at the Pittsburgh Pro, Shawn (Rhoden) just underscored everything I said in his defense about what his year was like with protecting his health, being with family and putting them and his health first and especially his travel schedule throughout the year right up until he started his prep. People (including Shawn Ray) said he wasn’t training, I said I was there everyday watching him train, I also said because of his busy travel schedule (with Stan Longeaux aka: Stanimal in most) that he was doing an excellent job as a representative as Mr. Olympia.
But no, the “experts” on here (in true getbig fashion) as well as other platforms including that putz that calls himself an “expert” Nick Trigili Who, like you guys and Shawn Ray would rather shit all over the guy without one bit of critical thinking or at the very least take into consideration that this is what he’s always done in the off-season. It only counts the day of the show.
Most wont take the time to watch this 34min interview
Shawn "1 & Done" Rhodent
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Shawn "1 & Done" Rhodent
But that’s not the point
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Who cares, I will wait to judge him come Olympia Day.
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Phil destroys Rhoden in every way besides mid section.
If Phil comes in with a better mid section, it should be lights out for Rhoden.
Out of all the Mr. Os, Rhoden is by far the worst.
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This Rhodent fool is completely and thoroughly underwhelming.
And Heath(er) is a remarkably narrow balloon-boy flake who nightly sleeps with an Alien-style Face Hugger plugged onto his face (judging by his gut bloat).
The Olympia has devolved into a showing of faceless and who-cares neegar gasbags.
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Phil destroys Rhoden in every way besides mid section.
If Phil comes in with a better mid section, it should be lights out for Rhoden.
Out of all the Mr. Os, Rhoden is by far the worst.
Phil is more impressive, would like to see him win another
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Anyway, the absolute worst Mr. Olympia. Extremely underwhelming and over-rated.
Agreed.
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Anyway, the absolute worst Mr. Olympia. Extremely underwhelming and over-rated.
Also the oldest Mr. Olympia.
He beat Chris Dickerson's 1982 record.
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Phil destroys Rhoden in every way besides mid section.
If Phil comes in with a better mid section, it should be lights out for Rhoden.
Out of all the Mr. Os, Rhoden is by far the worst.
No way. Some may not like him but he looked great that night. Who do you think looked better?
Chris Dickerson was worse and there were several there that night that should have beat him.
(http://www.mdlatino.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/7-shawn-rhoden.jpg)
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Chris Dickerson is 80 this year, and has a lifetime qualification to the Mr. Olympia.
He should enter.
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No way. Some may not like him but he looked great that night. Who do you think looked better?
Chris Dickerson was worse and there were several there that night that should have beat him.
(http://www.mdlatino.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/7-shawn-rhoden.jpg)
People often call Cormiers physique boring but rhoden takes the cake, Cormiers physique was much better and would have won him multiple O’s in today’s bbing
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/00/0e/ab/000eab86af14f1c8ea26e11a506e6d24--bodybuilders-iron-man.jpg)
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Going back to the very first thread after he guest posed at the Pittsburgh Pro, Shawn (Rhoden) just underscored everything I said in his defense about what his year was like with protecting his health, being with family and putting them and his health first and especially his travel schedule throughout the year right up until he started his prep. People (including Shawn Ray) said he wasn’t training, I said I was there everyday watching him train, I also said because of his busy travel schedule (with Stan Longeaux aka: Stanimal in most) that he was doing an excellent job as a representative as Mr. Olympia.
But no, the “experts” on here (in true getbig fashion) as well as other platforms including that putz that calls himself an “expert” Nick Trigili Who, like you guys and Shawn Ray would rather shit all over the guy without one bit of critical thinking or at the very least take into consideration that this is what he’s always done in the off-season. It only counts the day of the show.
Most wont take the time to watch this 34min interview
Great post Coach, you seem to be one of the few around these traps who can actually deploy some level of critical thinking and fair judgement.
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People often call Cormiers physique boring but rhoden takes the cake, Cormiers physique was much better and would have won him multiple O’s in today’s bbing
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/00/0e/ab/000eab86af14f1c8ea26e11a506e6d24--bodybuilders-iron-man.jpg)
His 1999 Ironman physique would have beaten Rhoden in 2018.
I don't think he would have beaten any 2011 to 2017 versions of Heath though.
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His 1999 Ironman physique would have beaten Rhoden in 2018.
I don't think he would have beaten any 2011 to 2017 versions of Heath though.
Chris’s 1999 third place Olympia would have beaten every version of rhoden a long with his 2004 Arnold classic form
I agree with you about Phil though, that’s a tough call
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Phil is more impressive, would like to see him win another
Everyone loves a great comeback story.
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No way. Some may not like him but he looked great that night. Who do you think looked better?
Chris Dickerson was worse and there were several there that night that should have beat him.
(http://www.mdlatino.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/7-shawn-rhoden.jpg)
I never said someone else looked better that night.
What I said was besides the midsection, Phil destroys Rhoden, which is true. Phil lost the Mr. O that night because of his midsection--it just threw off everything else. The judges couldn't look past it. As such, Rhoden looked better that night, but Phil is still a better bodybuilder (minus the midsection that night).
I stand by my words--Rhoden is the worst Mr. O of all time.
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I never said someone else looked better that night.
What I said was besides the midsection, Phil destroys Rhoden, which is true. Phil lost the Mr. O that night because of his midsection--it just threw off everything else. The judges couldn't look past it. As such, Rhoden looked better that night, but Phil is still a better bodybuilder (minus the midsection that night).
I stand by my words--Rhoden is the worst Mr. O of all time.
In recent times.
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He's entitled to his opinion. Thanks. I will say I agree with him with the exception of his health. Things have changed since the days of Dallas McCarver and the others that passed before him even the younger bodybuilders are much more cautious and with Shawn’s age (44) I don’t see him being that reckless especially with as old school as Aceto is. If he was being coached by Milos, Nichols, etc I’d be more concerned. That’s my opinion
As far as anabolics go, I think Milos is the most conservative of all. Even with the GH. I know you have a problem with the insulin but IMO it's the least dangerous compound if it's used as the main anabolic driver.
Have you seen what Aceto has done with diuretics? Remember how much weight Reagan Grimes dropped for his physique show a while back? Luke Sandoe point blank said Aceto almost killed him with diuretics a couple of years ago.
Rhoden will have to be very extreme to have a chance the O again. In all aspects. There is no way around it.
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As far as anabolics go, I think Milos is the most conservative of all. Even with the GH. I know you have a problem with the insulin but IMO it's the least dangerous compound if it's used as the main anabolic driver.
Have you seen what Aceto has done with diuretics? Remember how much weight Reagan Grimes dropped for his physique show a while back? Luke Sandoe point blank said Aceto almost killed him with diuretics a couple of years ago.
Rhoden will have to be very extreme to have a chance the O again. In all aspects. There is no way around it.
Silvio Samuel Saviour called out Milos pretty hard about using him as a guinea pig, years ago.
On here, or... possibly Milos' board.
He seemed like a bitter man though.
Wouldn't pro gurus know the dosage maximums to...like...not kill their clients? Or push them near that point.
What gives, Van? I know you know your stuff and have some insight on this.
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Silvio Samuel Saviour called out Milos pretty hard about using him as a guinea pig, years ago.
On here, or... possibly Milos' board.
He seemed like a bitter man though.
Wouldn't pro gurus know the dosage maximums to...like...not kill their clients? Or push them near that point.
What gives, Van? I know you know your stuff and have some insight on this.
Never forget that Milos is a Serb. Serbs are obsessed with money, status and luxurius lifestyle and they will take advantage of people to get what they want. They usually acquire said goods by breaking the law, cheating, lying, extorsion etc.
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As far as anabolics go, I think Milos is the most conservative of all. Even with the GH. I know you have a problem with the insulin but IMO it's the least dangerous compound if it's used as the main anabolic driver.
Have you seen what Aceto has done with diuretics? Remember how much weight Reagan Grimes dropped for his physique show a while back? Luke Sandoe point blank said Aceto almost killed him with diuretics a couple of years ago.
Rhoden will have to be very extreme to have a chance the O again. In all aspects. There is no way around it.
As far as the insulin, I’ve opened myself up over the years and did A LOT of studying as far as insulin usages and agree with you. I haven’t used it myself but as I get older I’ve read about the benefit of its use in anti aging as well as the GH. I think back when I was against it and Milos and I would get into arguments (some in person) it was being overused and depended on too much and I even think with him not realizing too much was having an adverse effect especially when it came to pre contest loading and the blown out stomachs. Dennis Wolf comes to mind with him loading on 5000g of carbs right before a show. But again, I’m open to it and realize not everyone needs it and imo, should only be used for off-season protocols if needed
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Never forget that Milos is a Serb. Serbs are obsessed with money, status and luxurius lifestyle and they will take advantage of people to get what they want. They usually acquire said goods by breaking the law, cheating, lying, extorsion etc.
Sounds like every other bber
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I never said someone else looked better that night.
What I said was besides the midsection, Phil destroys Rhoden, which is true. Phil lost the Mr. O that night because of his midsection--it just threw off everything else. The judges couldn't look past it. As such, Rhoden looked better that night, but Phil is still a better bodybuilder (minus the midsection that night).
I stand by my words--Rhoden is the worst Mr. O of all time.
OK, to be precise, you're right.
And I also agree that Phil beat Rhoden everywhere else except midsection. But that was a big one. This was no Ronnie Coleman turtle shell abs, this was just especially egregious. The judges just couldn't let it go another year. And I agree if Phil could fix that he will win again. And it may not be because he's the best. Guys like Roelly, Brandon, Ramy can beat him now. But if he fixes his gut they will reward him.
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Silvio Samuel Saviour called out Milos pretty hard about using him as a guinea pig, years ago.
On here, or... possibly Milos' board.
He seemed like a bitter man though.
Wouldn't pro gurus know the dosage maximums to...like...not kill their clients? Or push them near that point.
What gives, Van? I know you know your stuff and have some insight on this.
There is no dosage that is safe and there is no dosage that is immediately lethal when it comes to androgens. No one knows how far is safe to push. All drug use involves some risk so no coach can guarantee anything. I believe Milos to advocate very moderate androgens while using the insulin as the main anabolic - he really seems to believe insulin use by itself puts on more muscle than anabolics by themselves. I don't agree with that at all btw, but if low anabolics with fast acting insulins around training work for you then I believe that's much safer than multi-gram steroid stacks. Of course having sky high insulin round the clock, like some pros do it, isn't a healthy strategy either but a few hours a day of high insulin around training isn't that bad imo.
All athletes should only blame themselves if they *let* someone use them as guinea pigs. No one, doesn't matter if it's a doctor, professor or whatever credentialed guy, knows what an exotic stack with dozens of classes of drugs will do to a guy. It's experimental.
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There is no dosage that is safe and there is no dosage that is immediately lethal when it comes to androgens. No one knows how far is safe to push. All drug use involves some risk so no coach can guarantee anything. I believe Milos to advocate very moderate androgens while using the insulin as the main anabolic - he really seems to believe insulin use by itself puts on more muscle than anabolics by themselves. I don't agree with that at all btw, but if low anabolics with fast acting insulins around training work for you then I believe that's much safer than multi-gram steroid stacks. Of course having sky high insulin round the clock, like some pros do it, isn't a healthy strategy either but a few hours a day of high insulin around training isn't that bad imo.
All athletes should only blame themselves if they *let* someone use them as guinea pigs. No one, doesn't matter if it's a doctor, professor or whatever credentialed guy, knows what an exotic stack with dozens of classes of drugs will do to a guy. It's experimental.
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How's your Mr. Olympia training going?
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How's your Mr. Olympia training going?
How’s your Mr Olympia training going?
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How’s your Mr Olympia training going?
Very good
Training
100 push ups a week
Diet
Diet coke and Pizza
Supplements
Testosterone Enanthate, 750mg a week
EQ, 800mg a week
Tren E, 600mg/week
D-Bol, 50mg every day
100mg Trenbolone Acetate EOD
100mg Testosterone prop EOD
100mg Masteron propionate EOD
50mg Winstrol or Anavar ED (sometime I do both)
Start T3 at 25mcg ED and taper up as needed.
Halotestin, start at 20mg ED and increase by 10mg every week
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:D ;D
Very good
Training
100 push ups a week
Diet
Diet coke and Pizza
Supplements
Testosterone Enanthate, 750mg a week
EQ, 800mg a week
Tren E, 600mg/week
D-Bol, 50mg every day
100mg Trenbolone Acetate EOD
100mg Testosterone prop EOD
100mg Masteron propionate EOD
50mg Winstrol or Anavar ED (sometime I do both)
Start T3 at 25mcg ED and taper up as needed.
Halotestin, start at 20mg ED and increase by 10mg every week
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99.9% of getbiggers as well as 99.9% of all gymgoers ON STEROIDS....couldnt look like the off-steroid version of Rhoden on their best day. Shawn Rhoden = smart bodybuilder. Seems like the man is concerned with his health and longetivity. And still is a champion.
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Very good
Training
100 push ups a week
Diet
Diet coke and Pizza
Supplements
Testosterone Enanthate, 750mg a week
EQ, 800mg a week
Tren E, 600mg/week
D-Bol, 50mg every day
100mg Trenbolone Acetate EOD
100mg Testosterone prop EOD
100mg Masteron propionate EOD
50mg Winstrol or Anavar ED (sometime I do both)
Start T3 at 25mcg ED and taper up as needed.
Halotestin, start at 20mg ED and increase by 10mg every week
Looks like a winner
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Looks like a winner
Very conservative protocol.
@Coach - how are you feeling post contest? How is your conditioning/weight gain? It's been about 10 days, right?
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Very conservative protocol.
@Coach - how are you feeling post contest? How is your conditioning/weight gain? It's been about 10 days, right?
I feel good. I got back to training on Monday but during the week off did cardio and kept my diet pretty consistent to avoid a big rebound. I’m only up about 8lbs since the show
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99.9% of getbiggers as well as 99.9% of all gymgoers ON STEROIDS....couldnt look like the off-steroid version of Rhoden on their best day. Shawn Rhoden = smart bodybuilder. Seems like the man is concerned with his health and longetivity. And still is a champion.
Gtfo with this BS, 99.9 getbiggers won’t look better than an off season Shawn ::)
Go4it, the coach, tres tacos, KevinP all look better, I named you four with lots more
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There is no dosage that is safe and there is no dosage that is immediately lethal when it comes to androgens. No one knows how far is safe to push. All drug use involves some risk so no coach can guarantee anything. I believe Milos to advocate very moderate androgens while using the insulin as the main anabolic - he really seems to believe insulin use by itself puts on more muscle than anabolics by themselves. I don't agree with that at all btw, but if low anabolics with fast acting insulins around training work for you then I believe that's much safer than multi-gram steroid stacks. Of course having sky high insulin round the clock, like some pros do it, isn't a healthy strategy either but a few hours a day of high insulin around training isn't that bad imo.
All athletes should only blame themselves if they *let* someone use them as guinea pigs. No one, doesn't matter if it's a doctor, professor or whatever credentialed guy, knows what an exotic stack with dozens of classes of drugs will do to a guy. It's experimental.
Great post. Thank you for sharing.
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Rhoden is a decent Mr. Olympia. Yes he's smaller than those the last few decades besides Dexter but he comes in condition and is the best on the day. Saying he's the worst, I think he's far better than Jay who had one good showing in 2009 and the rest are average and show how influenced the show is.
Speaking on Milos board arguments go back and read the ones he has on here with gh15. It leaves no doubt gh15 was Nasser at that point.
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I think Rhoden presented a really good physique last year at the Olympia, Heath may have had more freak value in his wins, but he never had Rhodens overall shape and structure, At his very best I see Phil being very competitive, But Rhoden is structurally better, unless Heath can reverse the gut and keep everything else full last the same time, which is a lot easier said than done, he won't beat Rhoden in last years shape.
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I don’t get the Hate For Rhoden He was a Worthy Winner Last year
No he wasn’t The Biggest on Stage & Neither we’re Zane & Samir
When they Won but they were the Best on stage.
Yes Phil was very good winning in his early wins - Not so the last
Few years & His Midsection was Awful last year & Couldnt Be Ignored
Again - He looked Terrible in all Front Shots.
Shawn Has a Good structure Had enough Muscle mass a Small Waist
And Good conditioning.
If he comes in as Good or even better condition he should Win again.
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In recent times.
This.
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I don’t get the Hate For Rhoden He was a Worthy Winner Last year
No he wasn’t The Biggest on Stage & Neither we’re Zane & Samir
When they Won but they were the Best on stage.
Yes Phil was very good winning in his early wins - Not so the last
Few years & His Midsection was Awful last year & Couldnt Be Ignored
Again - He looked Terrible in all Front Shots.
Shawn Has a Good structure Had enough Muscle mass a Small Waist
And Good conditioning.
If he comes in as Good or even better condition he should Win again.
Most of the hate it seems came after he guest posed at the Pittsburgh Pro.
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Most of the hate it seems came after he guest posed at the Pittsburgh Pro.
Yes it appears so.
Very clearly He doesn’t get extremely fat / Watery Off season
He gets smaller & softer.
To many used to seeing the very fat / watery off season look
At guest spots. ::)
It was a good video posted of him speaking - I watched it all.
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Gtfo with this BS, 99.9 getbiggers won’t look better than an off season Shawn ::)
Go4it, the coach, tres tacos, KevinP all look better, I named you four with lots more
Not at all knocking the physiques of the men you mention. But you seem to be splitting hairs about my 99.9% number. Ok then..lets make it 95%. Still....the man is Mr. Olympia.
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Most of the hate it seems came after he guest posed at the Pittsburgh Pro.
exactly
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Id love to see Heath and Kai enter it to make interesting as a fan
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At all costs, Rhoden must lose this year.
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Rhoden most likely is a one time Mr. Olympia. His off season physique tells the story of someone who didn't want to make any improvements for the next Olympia. So forget about bringing in a better back or better arms. Nope. Can't happen. Size improvements are made in the off-season. Once he starts calorie restriction, it's over. He's not going to gain muscle into the show. He was dialed in last year so he can't get better than last year. Can only be lucky to bring the same conditioning or go backwards.
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Rhoden most likely is a one time Mr. Olympia. His off season physique tells the story of someone who didn't want to make any improvements for the next Olympia. So forget about bringing in a better back or better arms. Nope. Can't happen. Size improvements are made in the off-season. Once he starts calorie restriction, it's over. He's not going to gain muscle into the show. He was dialed in last year so he can't get better than last year. Can only be lucky to bring the same conditioning or go backwards.
Seems to me he knows exactly what he's doing......
Competition history
Professional
2018 Mr. Olympia - 1st[4]
2017 Mr. Olympia - 5th
2016 Mr. Olympia - 2nd
2016 Kuwait Pro Men's Bodybuilding - 3rd place
2015 EVL's Prague Pro - 3rd
2015 Mr. Olympia - 3rd
2014 IFBB San Marino Pro - 1st
2014 EVL's Prague Pro - 3rd
2014 Dubai Pro - 2nd
2014 IFBB Arnold Classic Europe - 2nd
2014 Mr. Olympia - 3rd
2014 IFBB Australian Pro - 1st
2014 IFBB Arnold Classic - 2nd
2013 IFBB Arnold Classic Europe - 4th
2013 Mr. Olympia - 4th
2012 IFBB EVL's Prague Pro - 2nd
2012 IFBB British Grand Prix - 1st
2012 IFBB Arnold Classic Europe - 1st
2012 Mr. Olympia - 3rd
2012 IFBB Dallas Europa Supershow - 1st
2012 IFBB PBW Tampa Pro - 1st
2012 NPC Dexter Jackson Classic - NP
2012 IFBB Arnold Classic - 8th
2012 IFBB FLEX Pro - 4th
2011 Mr. Olympia - 11th
2011 IFBB Dallas Europa Super Show - 3rd
2010 IFBB Dallas Europa Super Show - 6th
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Rhoden most likely is a one time Mr. Olympia. His off season physique tells the story of someone who didn't want to make any improvements for the next Olympia. So forget about bringing in a better back or better arms. Nope. Can't happen. Size improvements are made in the off-season. Once he starts calorie restriction, it's over. He's not going to gain muscle into the show. He was dialed in last year so he can't get better than last year. Can only be lucky to bring the same conditioning or go backwards.
If Phil gets his midsection under control, he will beat Rhoden this year.
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If Phil gets his midsection under control, he will beat Rhoden this year.
Has structural issues in mid section now. Plus he only knows bloofy size.
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Seems to me he knows exactly what he's doing......
Competition history
Professional
2018 Mr. Olympia - 1st[4]
2017 Mr. Olympia - 5th
2016 Mr. Olympia - 2nd
2016 Kuwait Pro Men's Bodybuilding - 3rd place
2015 EVL's Prague Pro - 3rd
2015 Mr. Olympia - 3rd
2014 IFBB San Marino Pro - 1st
2014 EVL's Prague Pro - 3rd
2014 Dubai Pro - 2nd
2014 IFBB Arnold Classic Europe - 2nd
2014 Mr. Olympia - 3rd
2014 IFBB Australian Pro - 1st
2014 IFBB Arnold Classic - 2nd
2013 IFBB Arnold Classic Europe - 4th
2013 Mr. Olympia - 4th
2012 IFBB EVL's Prague Pro - 2nd
2012 IFBB British Grand Prix - 1st
2012 IFBB Arnold Classic Europe - 1st
2012 Mr. Olympia - 3rd
2012 IFBB Dallas Europa Supershow - 1st
2012 IFBB PBW Tampa Pro - 1st
2012 NPC Dexter Jackson Classic - NP
2012 IFBB Arnold Classic - 8th
2012 IFBB FLEX Pro - 4th
2011 Mr. Olympia - 11th
2011 IFBB Dallas Europa Super Show - 3rd
2010 IFBB Dallas Europa Super Show - 6th
This x2
Only those on here know Better & more than him
And are expert at Judging.
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How’s your Mr Olympia training going?
So far, I've ordered some exceptional new posing suits (True thongs and mesh are okay now, right?). Next up, getting in condition to do them some justice. Deep...ass to the grass squats.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/53/c0/31/53c031144a28ed99af613516014a6f1a.gif)
There's no way in hell....
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Seems to me he knows exactly what he's doing......
Competition history
Professional
2018 Mr. Olympia - 1st[4]
2017 Mr. Olympia - 5th
2016 Mr. Olympia - 2nd
2016 Kuwait Pro Men's Bodybuilding - 3rd place
2015 EVL's Prague Pro - 3rd
2015 Mr. Olympia - 3rd
2014 IFBB San Marino Pro - 1st
2014 EVL's Prague Pro - 3rd
2014 Dubai Pro - 2nd
2014 IFBB Arnold Classic Europe - 2nd
2014 Mr. Olympia - 3rd
2014 IFBB Australian Pro - 1st
2014 IFBB Arnold Classic - 2nd
2013 IFBB Arnold Classic Europe - 4th
2013 Mr. Olympia - 4th
2012 IFBB EVL's Prague Pro - 2nd
2012 IFBB British Grand Prix - 1st
2012 IFBB Arnold Classic Europe - 1st
2012 Mr. Olympia - 3rd
2012 IFBB Dallas Europa Supershow - 1st
2012 IFBB PBW Tampa Pro - 1st
2012 NPC Dexter Jackson Classic - NP
2012 IFBB Arnold Classic - 8th
2012 IFBB FLEX Pro - 4th
2011 Mr. Olympia - 11th
2011 IFBB Dallas Europa Super Show - 3rd
2010 IFBB Dallas Europa Super Show - 6th
The difference between now and then is that he is Mr Olympia now, there’s more pressure for him to defend his title, and his competition is hungrier knowing he’s very beatable
If Brandon Curry dials it in, I see him winning, his physique is so much better than rhodens, much more impressive
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Has structural issues in mid section now. Plus he only knows bloofy size.
That might still be enough to beat Rhoden.
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That might still be enough to beat Rhoden.
The judges need to pay attention to Rhoden's lower abs. His bottom row is fucked up and distended. It started a couple years ago. I would love to see him out of the top 3.
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Anyway, the absolute worst Mr. Olympia. Extremely underwhelming and over-rated.
I have to ask, what makes Rhoden a bad Mr O? Lack of (impressive?) appearances? I've never heard of anybody complain about Yates or call him a "bad Mr O" and he disappeared after the show, went into hiding before coming back the following year. Why does Shawn cop all the flack? Shawn has traveled extensively since becoming Mr O (not even a year ago).
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I have to ask, what makes Rhoden a bad Mr O? Lack of (impressive?) appearances? I've never heard of anybody complain about Yates or call him a "bad Mr O" and he disappeared after the show, went into hiding before coming back the following year. Why does Shawn cop all the flack? Shawn has traveled extensively since becoming Mr O (not even a year ago).
Because when Dorian showed up off season to guest pose, he was 300 pounds with abs and to this day is the most mind blowing bodybuilder I've ever seen in person.
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Because when Dorian showed up off season to guest pose, he was 300 pounds with abs and to this day is the most mind blowing bodybuilder I've ever seen in person.
I totally agree, I have never ever seen anything as close to Yates ever including Coleman, the whole audience went into shock.
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I totally agree, I have never ever seen anything as close to Yates ever including Coleman, the whole audience went into shock.
I was backstage at the Jr. Michigan in 96 while Yates was back there getting ready to guest pose. This was May and the O was probably Sept/Oct that year. I'm still speechless. You are right. Nobody has come close since. Including Coleman. After seeing him, I was disappointed in seeing Mike Francois, Kevin Levrone and Paul Dillett guest posing with the next year at the same venue.
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Because when Dorian showed up off season to guest pose, he was 300 pounds with abs and to this day is the most mind blowing bodybuilder I've ever seen in person.
True, can't disagree with that. But is that our definition of a 'good' Mr O now? One who looks great when posing in the off-season?
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King Kamali was 293-lb with abs...but huge difference between abs barely showing versus deep abs like Dorian would have had at 300.
Edited to add: I found the picture on my old website, Bodybuilding Pro, from my review of King Kamali's "King of Pain" DVD, and it turns out that King was 287-lb at the time. His stomach, while protruding a little [more or less normal by IFBB pro standards], displays better abs than I originally remembered:
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I was backstage at the Jr. Michigan in 96 while Yates was back there getting ready to guest pose. This was May and the O was probably Sept/Oct that year. I'm still speechless. You are right. Nobody has come close since. Including Coleman. After seeing him, I was disappointed in seeing Mike Francois, Kevin Levrone and Paul Dillett guest posing with the next year at the same venue.
Outed :D
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Because when Dorian showed up off season to guest pose, he was 300 pounds with abs and to this day is the most mind blowing bodybuilder I've ever seen in person.
And how.
I’ve seen a majority of the greats in the flesh (no homo), and Yates was far and away the craziest combo of mass, graininess and stellar proportion.
Coleman didn’t impress to within a mile of Dorian’s awesomeness.
On one occasion, at a guest posing, only perhaps three weeks after his 1996 O win, Yates was around 285-90, and was quite simply beyond.
Photos just don’t do his build justice.
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And how.
I’ve seen a majority of the greats in the flesh (no homo), and Yates was far and away the craziest combo of mass, graininess and stellar proportion.
Coleman didn’t impress to within a mile of Dorian’s awesomeness.
On one occasion, at a guest posing, only perhaps three weeks after his 1996 O win, Yates was around 285-90, and was quite simply beyond.
Photos just don’t do his build justice.
Nope. They sure don't. He also notoriously over dieted for almost every Olympia he did. He was so obsessed with conditioning. It's a shame because in 97 he was going to finally come in not depleted then the injuries hit hard. He was still his biggest in 97 at close to 270.
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I was backstage at the Jr. Michigan in 96 while Yates was back there getting ready to guest pose. This was May and the O was probably Sept/Oct that year. I'm still speechless. You are right. Nobody has come close since. Including Coleman. After seeing him, I was disappointed in seeing Mike Francois, Kevin Levrone and Paul Dillett guest posing with the next year at the same venue.
Ic...
What were you doing backstage?
Someone once recounted a story from Arnold where he said there were women backstage specifically to swallow the sperm of competing bodybuilders.
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Someone once recounted a story from Arnold where he said there were women backstage specifically to swallow the sperm of competing bodybuilders.
Fixed!
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I was backstage at the Jr. Michigan in 96 while Yates was back there getting ready to guest pose. This was May and the O was probably Sept/Oct that year. I'm still speechless. You are right. Nobody has come close since. Including Coleman. After seeing him, I was disappointed in seeing Mike Francois, Kevin Levrone and Paul Dillett guest posing with the next year at the same venue.
I saw Yates guest pose at NPC Atlantic States in NYC in the mid 90's - you are right - he was something you can't describe unless you were there.
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Ic...
What were you doing backstage?
Someone once recounted a story from Arnold where he said there were women backstage specifically to swallow the sperm of competing bodybuilders.
I was competing in the heavyweight class and he was going on after we were done.