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Title: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 06, 2019, 10:42:43 PM
I don’t fly up until tomorrow morning but I still have no idea what prompted this exchange

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2F0jlZBYtd/?igshid=1o6c1fxzfb24x
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: pellius on September 06, 2019, 11:10:26 PM
This is not the first time I've seen Kongo act like a poor sport. Doesn't even seem like Bader said anything to him. But even if he did, that was uncalled for. If it wasn't for Bader having more class things could have gotten very ugly. Props to Bader for staying cool and saving it for the cage where it belongs.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: rocket on September 06, 2019, 11:33:14 PM
I don’t fly up until tomorrow morning but I still have no idea what prompted this exchange

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2F0jlZBYtd/?igshid=1o6c1fxzfb24x

I know you know the guy, but I don't believe anything that I see in any stare down.

There is a financial motivation to portray any fight as a grudge match - or just general bad blood. 

Maybe I'm a cynic, but there is no way in my mind that guys aren't told to pull some shit to get the buys up.

Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Kwon on September 07, 2019, 12:38:19 AM
The "Master" Bader will wrestlefuck him.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Royalty on September 07, 2019, 01:42:41 AM
Kongo was just trying to generate some controversy and stir up some interest
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Mitch on September 07, 2019, 01:54:17 AM
I know you know the guy, but I don't believe anything that I see in any stare down.

There is a financial motivation to portray any fight as a grudge match - or just general bad blood. 

Maybe I'm a cynic, but there is no way in my mind that guys aren't told to pull some shit to get the buys up.


x2.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Kwon on September 07, 2019, 11:05:34 AM
Yes, it is known that "grudge matches" generate more interest/revenue.

Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Dieter on September 07, 2019, 12:42:25 PM
I don’t fly up until tomorrow morning but I still have no idea what prompted this exchange

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2F0jlZBYtd/?igshid=1o6c1fxzfb24x

look again, Bader ever so slightly pushed the bill of his cap into Kongo's forehead
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: deadz on September 07, 2019, 04:15:16 PM
44 and still fighting, idiot.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2019, 08:58:49 PM
44 and still fighting, idiot.

Is this your professional opinion
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: chaos on September 07, 2019, 09:42:42 PM
Eyepoke stoppage ??? ???
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Twaddle on September 07, 2019, 09:59:06 PM
Eyepoke stoppage ??? ???
What a fucking pussy.  To afraid to continue.   ::)
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2019, 10:20:36 PM
Eyepoke stoppage ??? ???

Baders finger was damn near knuckle deep in eye
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2019, 10:22:08 PM
What a fucking pussy.  To afraid to continue.   ::)

Hey fuckface.....it was a doctor stoppage. Go ahead ask me if was there
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Twaddle on September 07, 2019, 10:52:49 PM
Hey fuckface.....it was a doctor stoppage. Go ahead ask me if was there

Ha, if you were there, then you had a front row seat, to the ass whipping.  Bader was beating the black off Kongo.  Kongo took the bitch move move, and pussied out.   ::)
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2019, 11:02:47 PM
Ha, if you were there, then you had a front row seat, to the ass whipping.  Bader was beating the black off Kongo.  Kongo took the bitch move move, and pussied out.   ::)

I’m here, ringside. Bader would have won the first. Was it an accident or a bitch move. What part of “doctors stoppage” are you having a hard time understanding?

https://twitter.com/dazn_usa/status/1170556290927603712?s=21
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: JCL on September 07, 2019, 11:38:51 PM
I’m here, ringside. Bader would have won the first. Was it an accident or a bitch move. What part of “doctors stoppage” are you having a hard time understanding?

https://twitter.com/dazn_usa/status/1170556290927603712?s=21


Are you mentally handicap? Bader had the tip of his thumb in his left nostril, not even close to touching his eye.  He bitched out 1000%. 
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2019, 11:57:50 PM

Are you mentally handicap? Bader had the tip of his thumb in his left nostril, not even close to touching his eye.  He bitched out 1000%.  

lol....this is retarded. I’m arguing with people that weren’t even there. Lol

Beltran stopped the fight, the doctor ended the match. Why is this difficult to comprehend?

By the logic on here...Kongo, on an 8 fight win streak, get a title fight, flys his team and their families out, his friends and family (he paid for his family) to come in from France only to throw the fight? Lololololol
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Dave D on September 08, 2019, 01:19:37 AM
lol....this is retarded. I’m arguing with people that weren’t even there. Lol

Beltran stopped the fight, the doctor ended the match. Why is this difficult to comprehend?

By the logic on here...Kongo, on an 8 fight win streak, get a title fight, flys his team and their families out, his friends and family (he paid for his family) to come in from France only to throw the fight? Lololololol

Coach why are you posting here when you're at the fight?

Do you enjoy arguing when people are obviously trolling you?

Be in the moment at the fight, realistically how many more of these unique opportunities are you going to have, Kongo isnt going to fight for another 10 years.

Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on September 08, 2019, 01:43:23 AM
I used to be a fan of Kongo back in the day. I even used to teach him secret moves too deadly for the UFC. Now? Well, he can go to hell! What a yellow belly! Totally chickened out of that fight and took the get-out-of-jail-free card. Did he even train for this fight? He looked like he'd just been dragged off his forklift at the factory and thrown in the cage! Absolutely disgusted with this!

Tex.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: pellius on September 08, 2019, 01:56:22 AM
Always a disappointment to have a fight end like that. Kongo told the ref he couldn't see out of his eye so the doctor has no choice but to stop the fight. I don't think Kongo will get another chance at a title as he too old now and has to move to the back of the line. There was a lot at stake for him here and possibly career-ending (or fading) so if he said he couldn't see then we have to take his word for it. But from the looks of it, it doesn't seem like it would have gone well for him anyway. Bader completely dominated him.

And Rampage, again, making an ass of himself.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Kwon on September 08, 2019, 03:00:35 AM
Instead of a Grudge match, we got a Grunge match.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: illuminati on September 08, 2019, 03:26:53 AM
Always a disappointment to have a fight end like that. Kongo told the ref he couldn't see out of his eye so the doctor has no choice but to stop the fight. I don't think Kongo will get another chance at a title as he too old now and has to move to the back of the line. There was a lot at stake for him here and possibly career-ending (or fading) so if he said he couldn't see then we have to take his word for it. But from the looks of it, it doesn't seem like it would have gone well for him anyway. Bader completely dominated him.

And Rampage, again, making an ass of himself.

Kongo from what I saw did a Anthony Joshua & gave up
He’d had enough & claimed injury as a way out.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: che on September 08, 2019, 07:08:43 AM
Bader had the tip of his thumb in his left nostril, not even close to touching his eye.

So deep in his nose that touched  his  eyeball , good call by the ref
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Twaddle on September 08, 2019, 07:14:14 AM
Couch, go watch the replay.  Bader punched him in his left eye.  Then, Bader stuck his finger in Kongo "double barrel nostril".  There was never an eye poke.  

Furthermore, the doctor stopped the fight, because Kongo said he couldn't see.  It was Kongo's decision.  He could have told the doctor he was fine, and continued the fight.  Kongo is the one who stopped the fight.  

Your black beauty pussied out, plain and simple.  A fucking chicken shit he is.  Title fight, and he bitches out.  
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: gmflex on September 08, 2019, 07:25:48 AM
Couch, go watch the replay.  Bader punched him in his left eye.  Then, Bader stuck his finger in Kongo "double barrel nostril".  There was never an eye poke.  

Furthermore, the doctor stopped the fight, because Kongo said he couldn't see.  It was Kongo's decision.  He could have told the doctor he was fine, and continued the fight.  Kongo is the one who stopped the fight.  

Your black beauty pussied out, plain and simple.  A fucking chicken shit he is.  Title fight, and he bitches out.  

  ;D  ;D

The Dr. Was a Democrat / libertard..
So it's his fault..

 ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Twaddle on September 08, 2019, 07:49:02 AM
Couch, what say you?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ED6m0ErU4AM3qvI?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Twaddle on September 08, 2019, 07:51:54 AM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/9ffce7ebd44e3e7bfa4631607d046232/tumblr_p8ne0rIwsv1qd4esao1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on September 08, 2019, 12:45:09 PM
I hate to say it, but I blame Coach for all of this. Steroid users should NOT be around real athletes! Coach's mouth says one thing (usually nonsensical higgy hoo), but his body says another: "I'm illegally using drugs!"

Coach probably means well, but it is just a fact that he's abusing steroids and cheating in order to gain an advantage over other bodybuilders. Can we really expect this sort of attitude not to have an effect on those around him? I think not! Poor Kongo's head has been filled with all sorts of malarkey and it showed! He took shortcuts in training and opted for the easy way out. We need to stop steroid users influencing athletes...especially ones in a sport where you can kill your opponent if you cheat. Disgusting!!!

Tex.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: illuminati on September 08, 2019, 12:50:55 PM
I hate to say it, but I blame Coach for all of this. Steroid users should NOT be around real athletes! Coach's mouth says one thing (usually nonsensical higgy hoo), but his body says another: "I'm illegally using drugs!"

Coach probably means well, but it is just a fact that he's abusing steroids and cheating in order to gain an advantage over other bodybuilders. Can we really expect this sort of attitude not to have an effect on those around him? I think not! Poor Kongo's head has been filled with all sorts of malarkey and it showed! He took shortcuts in training and opted for the easy way out. We need to stop steroid users influencing athletes...especially ones in a sport where you can kill your opponent if you cheat. Disgusting!!!

Tex.

 ::)
Jeez what a ignorant Fuckwit you are
Stop steroid / PED usage & you stop virtually all high level athletes.

Try educating yourself & living in the real world
Get out from under the Kitchen Table - Boy.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Matt on September 08, 2019, 01:06:32 PM
::)
Jeez what a ignorant Fuckwit you are
Stop steroid / PED usage & you stop virtually all high level athletes.

Try educating yourself & living in the real world
Get out from under the Kitchen Table - Boy.

Precisely. We all saw what USADA testing did to the UFC.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on September 08, 2019, 02:08:24 PM
::)
Jeez what a ignorant Fuckwit you are
Stop steroid / PED usage & you stop virtually all high level athletes.

Try educating yourself & living in the real world
Get out from under the Kitchen Table - Boy.

Listen, son. Keep your mouth shut! You don't want none of Big Tex. Just stick to trying to be "one of the boys" by embarrassing yourself talking about US politics like you have a clue. "I'll be moving to yours when the civil war comes"....LOLLOLLOL.

Tex.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: illuminati on September 08, 2019, 02:12:32 PM
Listen, son. Keep your mouth shut! You don't want none of Big Tex. Just stick to trying to be "one of the boys" by embarrassing yourself talking about US politics like you have a clue. "I'll be moving to yours when the civil war comes"....LOLLOLLOL.

Tex.

Ohh So Scared Internet Tough Man.
You’ll have to Try Harder & issue some more Dumb Threats
Pussy Boy.

Thick ignorant Pussyfied Internet Tough Guy.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😊😂

Go Ye Forth & Multiply
Lard Arse.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Deacon Jeschin on September 08, 2019, 02:14:57 PM
Hey fuckface.....it was a doctor stoppage. Go ahead ask me about my Olympia training!

Ok.....How's your Olympia training going?
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2019, 03:45:13 PM
It is what it is, we all had breakfast this morning before our flights back home, he was in emergency after the fight, his eye was covered, doctor stopped the fight along with Beltran. Bader can appeal and I’m sure they’ll be a rematch in the future. Did he pay off the Beltran and Doctor? lol
 

Leaving Thursday for the Olympia... who’s in?
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2019, 03:47:56 PM
I hate to say it, but I blame Coach for all of this. Steroid users should NOT be around real athletes! Coach's mouth says one thing (usually nonsensical higgy hoo), but his body says another: "I'm illegally using drugs!"

Coach probably means well, but it is just a fact that he's abusing steroids and cheating in order to gain an advantage over other bodybuilders. Can we really expect this sort of attitude not to have an effect on those around him? I think not! Poor Kongo's head has been filled with all sorts of malarkey and it showed! He took shortcuts in training and opted for the easy way out. We need to stop steroid users influencing athletes...especially ones in a sport where you can kill your opponent if you cheat. Disgusting!!!

Tex.
This is one of the dumbest posts ive ever read on here
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2019, 03:49:05 PM
Ok.....How's your Olympia training going?

Great
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 08, 2019, 04:20:36 PM
Who won?
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: oldgolds on September 09, 2019, 07:31:11 AM
I hate to say it, but I blame Coach for all of this. Steroid users should NOT be around real athletes! Coach's mouth says one thing (usually nonsensical higgy hoo), but his body says another: "I'm illegally using drugs!"

Coach probably means well, but it is just a fact that he's abusing steroids and cheating in order to gain an advantage over other bodybuilders. Can we really expect this sort of attitude not to have an effect on those around him? I think not! Poor Kongo's head has been filled with all sorts of malarkey and it showed! He took shortcuts in training and opted for the easy way out. We need to stop steroid users influencing athletes...especially ones in a sport where you can kill your opponent if you cheat. Disgusting!!!

Tex.
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I agree with you Tex but this site is dedicated to drug using cheaters, phonies and frauds....
Most of them would be 90 lb weaklings without their steroids so of course they attack people who expose them...
Truth/reality is a bitch....
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: deadz on September 09, 2019, 09:15:04 AM
Don't be sore loser Coach.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: AbrahamG on September 09, 2019, 11:30:48 AM
Who won?

No contest.

Cheickenshit Kongo bitched out. He was well on his way to an ass beating.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: oldgolds on September 10, 2019, 07:01:06 AM
You can clearly  see it was a nose poke and not an eye poke. Kongo's eye was swelling because he got punched in the eye.
Maybe we need instant replay in MMA. Review the incident and let the fight continue.
Beltran fucked up.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Kwon on September 10, 2019, 07:03:32 AM
You can clearly  see it was a nose poke and not an eye poke. Kongo's eye was swelling because he got punched in the eye.
Maybe we need instant replay in MMA. Review the incident and let the fight continue.
Beltran fucked up.

(https://preview.redd.it/97e7nu655ok31.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c18a4896c34c8dc46b938c6de97b01a38a9da391)

(https://uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Screen-Shot-2019-09-05-at-10.48.08-PM.jpg)
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: gmflex on September 10, 2019, 08:13:11 PM

 ;D  ;D

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/9/8/20855198/ryan-bader-claims-cheick-kongo-took-easy-way-out-open-to-fighting-rampage-after-confrontation (https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/9/8/20855198/ryan-bader-claims-cheick-kongo-took-easy-way-out-open-to-fighting-rampage-after-confrontation)

  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Twaddle on September 10, 2019, 09:25:40 PM
Couch,

Now that you know Chick Kongo is a fraud, will you still train him?  Maybe you should give him some tough love.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: oldgolds on September 11, 2019, 07:24:00 AM
Give Kongo some credit...At least he has the balls to step in the ring and fight. I don't agree with the steroid usage but 80% of them are doing it.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 11, 2019, 08:32:17 AM
The other guy that Coach trained was really out of shape. Won the fight, Tho.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2019, 08:36:43 AM
I love internet trolls that talk shit I’ll never meet... lol
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 11, 2019, 08:38:10 AM
He should switch to ESF :)
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2019, 08:41:29 AM
He should switch to ESF :)

To be fair to him at least he doesn’t hide  :)
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 11, 2019, 08:52:19 AM
To be fair to him at least he doesn’t hide  :)

Anyone thats in here and choose to expose himself should be able to take criticism, period.

Your guy was out of shape on that fight. You are a S&C Coach. He won the fight, he knocked the guy out, but was out of shape. Or wasn't?
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2019, 09:08:26 AM
Anyone thats in here and choose to expose himself should be able to take criticism, period.

Your guy was out of shape on that fight. You are a S&C Coach. He won the fight, he knocked the guy out, but was out of shape. Or wasn't?

Lol... your ignorance is mind boggling. You obviously don’t know the difference between what the S&C guy as opposed to skill. Go read a book, watch a few fights, go to bed...lol

Yep, I chose to expose myself because I have nothing to hide... all the other shit talkers? Well...
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 11, 2019, 09:12:08 AM
Lol... your ignorance is mind boggling. You obviously don’t know the difference between what the S&C guy as opposed to skill. Go read a book, watch a few fights, go to bed...lol

I will, Coach. Im packing to go to the Olympia later on the week. :)
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2019, 09:13:25 AM
I will, Coach. Im packing to go to the Olympia later on the week. :)

So I’m sure you’ll come right up to me and introduce yourself...lol

I’m leaving tomorrow morning and be there till Sunday
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 11, 2019, 09:15:06 AM
So I’m sure you’ll come right up to me and introduce yourself...lol

I’m leaving tomorrow morning and be there till Sunday

Cool! Are you going to have a booth at the Expo :)
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2019, 09:17:17 AM
Cool! Are you going to have a booth at the Expo :)

No...not selling workout apparel
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: WalterWhite on September 11, 2019, 10:05:19 AM
You can clearly  see it was a nose poke and not an eye poke. Kongo's eye was swelling because he got punched in the eye.
Maybe we need instant replay in MMA. Review the incident and let the fight continue.
Beltran fucked up.

Even Wiki has NC (accidental nose poke).  :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Bader
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2019, 10:16:41 AM
Even Wiki has NC (accidental nose poke).  :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Bader

They can take it up with Beltran and Doc
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Twaddle on September 11, 2019, 01:47:46 PM
Even Wiki has NC (accidental nose poke).  :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Bader

LOL, that's great.   :D
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 11, 2019, 03:05:00 PM
coach i rewatched the fight cheick looked up at bader and said " please mr bader dont hit me anymore i cant take it"  then he quit
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: AbrahamG on September 11, 2019, 03:46:14 PM
coach i rewatched the fight cheick looked up at bader and said " please mr bader dont hit me anymore i cant take it"  then he quit

Chick now calls him Uncle Bader after saying "uncle, uncle".  :)
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 11, 2019, 04:16:39 PM
Chick now calls him Uncle Bader after saying "uncle, uncle".  :)

you got that right abraham , see chik went into that fight cocky out shape, cause he has a big chocolate pee pee and sticks needles in his butt, he was like that craka  honkey mutha fucka  cant stop me.   but cheick not being so smart forgot bader is the superior wrestler.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: gmflex on September 11, 2019, 04:28:08 PM
coach i rewatched the fight cheick looked up at bader and said " please mr bader dont hit me anymore i cant take it"  then he quit

 ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: pellius on September 12, 2019, 12:42:12 AM
Whether it was an eye poke or not, Kongo did not come out of this will. Communicating with people over here all thought that he just quit. He realized that Bader was too much for him but didn't want to lose by getting beat up. Yes, the referee stopped the fight but that's only because Kongo said he couldn't see. Nobody believes that. His vision may have been fuzzy but guys have fought on with much worse. I once continued with a match when my elbow got dislocated giving my opponent his deserved victory and me an honorable defeat. With that much at stake, he should keep fighting even if he had one eye. Randy Couture kept fighting, and lost, to Ricco Rodriguez with a detached retina. Remember Uriah Faber and Rick Franklin fighting on, and winning with a broken hand?

It's often a man's heart, and not just strength and skill, that wins the victory and makes him a champion.    
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Kwon on September 12, 2019, 01:09:12 AM
I'd quit too if i got a finger in my nose/got punched that hard by Darth Bader.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2019, 02:11:12 AM
Whether it was an eye poke or not, Kongo did not come out of this will. Communicating with people over here all thought that he just quit. He realized that Bader was too much for him but didn't want to lose by getting beat up. Yes, the referee stopped the fight but that's only because Kongo said he couldn't see. Nobody believes that. His vision may have been fuzzy but guys have fought on with much worse. I once continued with a match when my elbow got dislocated giving my opponent his deserved victory and me an honorable defeat. With that much at stake, he should keep fighting even if he had one eye. Randy Couture kept fighting, and lost, to Ricco Rodriguez with a detached retina. Remember Uriah Faber and Rick Franklin fighting on, and winning with a broken hand?

It's often a man's heart, and not just strength and skill, that wins the victory and makes him a champion.    

It was the first round. He’s gotten out of a lot worse situations. There was only 1:14 left in the round and he clearly wasn’t getting hit hard enough to get KO’d in any realm of the imagination
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2019, 02:15:22 AM
“Ryan Bader entered the main event of Bellator 226 as one of the hottest heavyweights in the world and his torrid streak continued on Saturday night. For a few minutes, that is.

Bader (28-5) retained his Bellator MMA heavyweight title after dominating fellow Ultimate Fighting Championship veteran Cheick Kongo, but his win was as anticlimactic as they come. Bader rocked the Frenchman with two left hooks to the jaw and then took him down. Kongo (30-11-2) tried like crazy to get back to his feet, but the powerful wrestler used a tremendous amount of pressure to keep his challenger down.

However, with Bader on top against the cage, “Darth” accidentally poked Kongo in the left eye. From there, referee Mike Beltran called in the cageside doctor, who deemed Kongo unable to continue. With that ruling, since it was an accidental foul, the fight was declared a “No Contest,” allowing Bader to retain his title. The fight ended officially at 3:52 of the first”. - Sherdog

This being said and reported. I guaranfuckingtee Bader didn’t want to stand with Kongo especially since the majority of his wins came from KO’s.

Bader won’t take a rematch with Kongo because he wants to stay as a lightheavy not to mention already beat an undefeated Minakov and was on an 8 fight win streak with several first round KO’s. Baders a chump

http://www.bellator.com/video-clips/w8ht4g/bellator-226-countdown-day-3-cheick-kongo-bellator226

Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: pellius on September 12, 2019, 05:29:59 AM
It was the first round. He’s gotten out of a lot worse situations. There was only 1:14 left in the round and he clearly wasn’t getting hit hard enough to get KO’d in any realm of the imagination

I know you have a vested interest in this so I understand. To me it looked like he was getting beaten up and if it went on like that for another minute or so it's not inconceivable that it would have been stopped. Not being on the receiving end I can't comment if Bader was hitting him hard. Whatever the case may be, Kongo was not perceived well. With so much at stake you'd think he want to go to the death on this. He's 44 years old and now has to go back in line.

BTW, I think I've seen most, if not all, of his big fights and don't recall any great comeback where he turned things around when he seemed about to be buried.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: pellius on September 12, 2019, 06:14:11 AM
“Ryan Bader entered the main event of Bellator 226 as one of the hottest heavyweights in the world and his torrid streak continued on Saturday night. For a few minutes, that is.

Bader (28-5) retained his Bellator MMA heavyweight title after dominating fellow Ultimate Fighting Championship veteran Cheick Kongo, but his win was as anticlimactic as they come. Bader rocked the Frenchman with two left hooks to the jaw and then took him down. Kongo (30-11-2) tried like crazy to get back to his feet, but the powerful wrestler used a tremendous amount of pressure to keep his challenger down.

However, with Bader on top against the cage, “Darth” accidentally poked Kongo in the left eye. From there, referee Mike Beltran called in the cageside doctor, who deemed Kongo unable to continue. With that ruling, since it was an accidental foul, the fight was declared a “No Contest,” allowing Bader to retain his title. The fight ended officially at 3:52 of the first”. - Sherdog

This being said and reported. I guaranfuckingtee Bader didn’t want to stand with Kongo especially since the majority of his wins came from KO’s.

Bader won’t take a rematch with Kongo because he wants to stay as a lightheavy not to mention already beat an undefeated Minakov and was on an 8 fight win streak with several first round KO’s. Baders a chump

http://www.bellator.com/video-clips/w8ht4g/bellator-226-countdown-day-3-cheick-kongo-bellator226



Why is Bader a chump? I don't think he gets to choose his opponents and no one is calling or wants to see a rematch. And what does it matter if he wants to stand with Kongo. Why should he when he has a better chance on the ground?
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: oldgolds on September 12, 2019, 07:09:30 AM
The fight is on video...Where is the eye poke?
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2019, 08:58:15 AM
I know you have a vested interest in this so I understand. To me it looked like he was getting beaten up and if it went on like that for another minute or so it's not inconceivable that it would have been stopped. Not being on the receiving end I can't comment if Bader was hitting him hard. Whatever the case may be, Kongo was not perceived well. With so much at stake you'd think he want to go to the death on this. He's 44 years old and now has to go back in line.

BTW, I think I've seen most, if not all, of his big fights and don't recall any great comeback where he turned things around when he seemed about to be buried.

Oh I know Kongo clearly lost the first round. He was trying to make his way up the cage from a seated position while he was getting hit...but he would have went into the second round with some ground to make up

Also pellis, I apologize I didn’t mean to come off condescending to you
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: pellius on September 12, 2019, 04:59:29 PM
Oh I know Kongo clearly lost the first round. He was trying to make his way up the cage from a seated position while he was getting hit...but he would have went into the second round with some ground to make up

Also pellis, I apologize I didn’t mean to come off condescending to you

No, not at all. You have a personal relationship with him and are privy to insider info that the rest are not. I'm just saying that whatever truth I don't think he came out looking good to the fans and that will hurt his chances for a rematch and interest in him as a fighter and ticket/PPV sales draw.

Anyway, enjoy the O this year. It's all Brandon or Roelly. I think Brandon has better lines but Roelly is a crowd favorite and they need someone who will be popular with the fans.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: illuminati on September 12, 2019, 05:01:49 PM
Whether it was an eye poke or not, Kongo did not come out of this will. Communicating with people over here all thought that he just quit. He realized that Bader was too much for him but didn't want to lose by getting beat up. Yes, the referee stopped the fight but that's only because Kongo said he couldn't see. Nobody believes that. His vision may have been fuzzy but guys have fought on with much worse. I once continued with a match when my elbow got dislocated giving my opponent his deserved victory and me an honorable defeat. With that much at stake, he should keep fighting even if he had one eye. Randy Couture kept fighting, and lost, to Ricco Rodriguez with a detached retina. Remember Uriah Faber and Rick Franklin fighting on, and winning with a broken hand?

It's often a man's heart, and not just strength and skill, that wins the victory and makes him a champion.    

Agreed - He Didn’t Want any more - Fact
He could’ve said to the Ref he was Ok.
Not I can’t see - he wanted an out & took that Route.

He was your Man coach - Only he wasn’t going to come back & Win,
Come on - You Know he Quit & took the opt out “I can’t see”
If he’d wanted to continue he would’ve - Only he didn’t.
There’s no good reason for a Rematch - He Quit / got ref to stop the Fight.

It’s good to be loyal & supportive that I get, Only sometimes you got
Admit when you’re man’s Beat / Quit’s.
That’s No reflection on you as it was his Choice not yours.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2019, 05:06:22 PM
Agreed - He Didn’t Want any more - Fact
He could’ve said to the Ref he was Ok.
Not I can’t see - he wanted an out & took that Route.

He was your Man coach - Only he wasn’t going to come back & Win,
Come on - You Know he Quit & took the opt out “I can’t see”
If he’d wanted to continue he would’ve - Only he didn’t.
There’s no good reason for a Rematch - He Quit / got ref to stop the Fight.

It’s good to be loyal & supportive that I get, Only sometimes you got
Admit when you’re man’s Beat / Quit’s.
That’s No reflection on you as it was his Choice not yours.

His payday would have been a $1mil (as for Bader) he has a few fights left in his career....he’s not going to throw the fight for that kind of $$$
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: illuminati on September 12, 2019, 05:18:19 PM
His payday would have been a $1mil (as for Bader) he has a few fights left in his career....he’s not going to throw the fight for that kind of $$$

What’s money got to do with it when his Heart goes out The Fight.
Just like Joshua quit against Ruiz & Far More Money & Status at Stake
His 1st Big Fight In MSG And He quit - He’d had enough his Heart
Wasn’t in it anymore.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2019, 05:21:06 PM
What’s money got to do with it when his Heart goes out The Fight.
Just like Joshua quit against Ruiz & Far More Money & Status at Stake
His 1st Big Fight In MSG And He quit - He’d had enough his Heart
Wasn’t in it anymore.

Money is a great motivator plus an extra million would be great for his retirement, son etc
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: illuminati on September 12, 2019, 05:26:28 PM
Money is a great motivator plus an extra million would be great for his retirement, son etc

Hmmm True - Then again Getting Hit & Hurt and losing Heart is A Real De-Motivator
And we saw that Happen.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Twaddle on September 12, 2019, 05:57:08 PM
His payday would have been a $1mil (as for Bader) he has a few fights left in his career....he’s not going to throw the fight for that kind of $$$

So, you truly believe he was poked in the eye, and couldn't see?   ???

Have you watched any of the replays?
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2019, 06:00:28 PM
Hmmm True - Then again Getting Hit & Hurt and losing Heart is A Real De-Motivator
And we saw that Happen.

Like I said, he’s got out of way worse situations
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: illuminati on September 12, 2019, 06:12:52 PM
Like I said, he’s got out of way worse situations

Maybe - Previously - Not This Time He Didn’t.
He Quit / Got The Ref To do it for Him.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: ESFitness on September 12, 2019, 06:28:49 PM
Bwahaha saw the replays
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2019, 06:29:04 PM
Maybe - Previously - Not This Time He Didn’t.
He Quit / Got The Ref To do it for Him.

Got the ref to do it for him? As in he paid him off? The doctor as well? Lol


Hardly think Beltran is going to risk his reputation
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: illuminati on September 12, 2019, 06:34:00 PM
Got the ref to do it for him? As in he paid him off? The doctor as well? Lol


Hardly think Beltran is going to risk his reputation

Come on Coach - You can do better than that  ::)

He quit / said he couldn’t see so the ref called the fight off.
You’re the only one on here trying to say otherwise.

Pointless to go round & round - Console yourself with whatever you want.
Out.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: che on September 12, 2019, 06:38:33 PM

Just like Joshua quit against Ruiz

How do you figure ?
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: gmflex on September 12, 2019, 07:03:02 PM
 ;D  ;D

Bader calling kongo a liar..

Nose pick ???

 ;D  ;D


https://www.mmanews.com/ryan-bader-offers-proof-he-didnt-eye-poke-cheick-kongo/ (https://www.mmanews.com/ryan-bader-offers-proof-he-didnt-eye-poke-cheick-kongo/)
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2019, 07:06:36 PM
;D  ;D

Bader calling kongo a liar..

Nose pick ???

 ;D  ;D


https://www.mmanews.com/ryan-bader-offers-proof-he-didnt-eye-poke-cheick-kongo/ (https://www.mmanews.com/ryan-bader-offers-proof-he-didnt-eye-poke-cheick-kongo/)


Funny, he won’t take a rematch
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Twaddle on September 12, 2019, 07:07:25 PM
;D  ;D

Bader calling kongo a liar..

Nose pick ???

 ;D  ;D


https://www.mmanews.com/ryan-bader-offers-proof-he-didnt-eye-poke-cheick-kongo/ (https://www.mmanews.com/ryan-bader-offers-proof-he-didnt-eye-poke-cheick-kongo/)


Damn, Kongo won't recover.

Stick a fork in him, he's done.  Hopefully he and coach can still be friends.   :-\
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: pellius on September 12, 2019, 07:22:42 PM
Come on Coach - You can do better than that  ::)

He quit / said he couldn’t see so the ref (was obligated/required to) called the fight off.
You’re the only one on here trying to say otherwise.

Pointless to go round & round - Console yourself with whatever you want.
Out.


Fixed.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: pellius on September 12, 2019, 07:28:36 PM
There it is.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2KLDuuBASh/?igshid=1q9m28y9l172c
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: pellius on September 12, 2019, 07:35:32 PM
Funny, he won’t take a rematch

Was he offered a rematch? I don't know who books and decides who fights whom but has a rematch been propose? Considering how quickly Bader dominated him, taking the superior striker down not with a take down but with a strike, does Kongo deserve a rematch? Would it be fair for others that are waiting in line for a shot at the title?
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: illuminati on September 13, 2019, 12:16:26 AM
How do you figure ?


You not watch the fight / 7th & last round I take it.
From going to the canvass for the 2nd time in rd7 to when the ref had had enough of Joshua
& waved the fight off - it was around 34seconds 34 !!! 
And at no point Did Joshua show any Sign or intention of wanting to fight on.
34 seconds !! In his Biggest & 1st Fight In MSG.
Yeah he’d had enough & Quit.

How do you figure he didn’t.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: irishdave on September 13, 2019, 12:18:24 AM
Worst performance in pro mma I’ve ever seen.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: illuminati on September 13, 2019, 12:19:24 AM
Fixed.


Thanks,
Obligated or called off
He still Quit & got an out via “I Can’t See”
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: irishdave on September 13, 2019, 12:20:12 AM
Damn, Kongo won't recover.

Stick a fork in him, he's done.  Hopefully he and coach can still be friends.   :-\

They’re best friends not just friends 👬
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: irishdave on September 13, 2019, 12:20:52 AM

Thanks,
Obligated or called off
He still Quit & got an out via “I Can’t See”

Coach obviously didn’t train him for this one duh
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: illuminati on September 13, 2019, 12:23:06 AM
There it is.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2KLDuuBASh/?igshid=1q9m28y9l172c

Yep he poked him in the eye via the Nostril
Must be his 3rd Eye That Arnold spoke about
Only cheick’s is Located up his Nose.

🤣😂🤣
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Kwon on September 13, 2019, 12:53:24 AM
Definitely a finger in the nose.

"I can't see!"

Didn't know some people have eyes in their nostrils.


Maybe a select few see through their nose instead.


The "I can't see"-comment probably stem from feeling Darth Baders power in the clinch and being pushed up at the cagewall.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: 20inch calves on September 13, 2019, 04:44:33 AM
Funny, he won’t take a rematch

I wouldn't either. All that Time training., money for camp ect and all he got was a no contest
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Twaddle on September 13, 2019, 05:39:34 AM
They’re best friends not just friends 👬

Dang, that makes it even harder for Coach to accept.  The five stages of grief are: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance.

Coach seems to be stuck in the first stage.   :-\

Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: pellius on September 13, 2019, 12:41:33 PM

Thanks,
Obligated or called off
He still Quit & got an out via “I Can’t See”

Just wanted to emphasised the point that though the referee officially put a stop to the fight it was Kongo who made the decision that he no longer wanted to continue. If he still wanted to fight he could have. It was Kongo who stopped the fight.
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: oldgolds on September 14, 2019, 07:23:38 AM
Yes, but Beltran should have declared Bader the winner...
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 14, 2019, 05:11:09 PM
coach how the fuck do you get congo would have made a million dollars his salary was 100k with no win bonus where is that 900k going to magically appear from
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 14, 2019, 05:11:55 PM
This thread still going? Lol
Title: Re: Kongo vs. Bader
Post by: gmflex on September 14, 2019, 07:45:46 PM
Damn, Kongo won't recover.

Stick a fork in him, he's done.  Hopefully he and coach can still be friends.   :-\


 :D  ;D