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Title: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 12:00:51 PM
Logically - Why are men responsible for babies?

Men can't be pregnant. Women are the ones who conceive and grow a baby. At this point its their thing.

I'm a good christian trump supporter I like to think. I just don't understand this at all. I'm definitely not saying men shouldn't step up but I feel like the burden should be on women?

Is it just that as society we've decided to not really be totally fair for the benefit of society as a whole?
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 12:03:47 PM
I ask here because I get bitched out when I ask in real life. My friends have had their girlfriends "accidentally" get pregnant. How is that now a life changing problem for my male friends? They're not pregnant and the ladies knew thet THEIR bodies would produce a baby if exposed to sperm.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 06, 2019, 12:04:17 PM
Why wouldn’t you want to be a part of your child’s life?
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 12:05:47 PM
Why wouldn’t you want to be a part of your child’s life?

I personally would. I just don't know how we're legally locking peoole into something that isn't really their problem.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
Does this make any sense or has exposure to syphilis driven me mad??
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Dave D on October 06, 2019, 12:50:45 PM
Men are responsible based on 1000s of years of human history. Women weren’t consider men’s equals for much of history.

Today we are equals on some levels, but centuries  of human behavior takes time to reset.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Twaddle on October 06, 2019, 12:51:37 PM
Half of a child's DNA is from the father, and half from the mother.  It's very simple.

If your friends don't want the responsibility of a child, they shouldn't be having sex with women.  
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: joswift on October 06, 2019, 12:55:26 PM
Men are responsible based on 1000s of years of human history. Women weren’t consider men’s equals for much of history.

Today we are equals on some levels, but centuries  of human behavior takes time to reset.
snowflake..
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 12:58:30 PM
When Women are exposed to sperm women grow babies.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 01:14:01 PM
It really has nothing to do with men. It would be like blaming a tree for your nut allergy when you know you're alergic to nuts.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on October 06, 2019, 01:21:22 PM
birth control is a man's responsibility. 

why? its in a women's Biology/DNA to get pregnant.  going against thousand of years of evolution.... good luck

women are meant to give birth and have babies. its at the core of what a women is meant to do - have babies!!

Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2019, 01:24:32 PM
My issue with the abortion and equal rights situation regarding men and women.

Bill and Susan have been dating awhile. Bill makes $150K a year, Susan makes $100K. During one New Years Eve party Bill and Susan have a little too much to drink and they have sex without using protection. As luck would have it, Susan ends up pregnant.

As it stands, 100% of the decision to have the child or abort is with Susan. Bill, who can certainly chime in, has no say in the decision.

Lets say Bill has always wanted a child and really wants Susan to have this child. She says she doesn't want it so she's getting an abortion. Bill says he will sign any and all documents relieving her of any financial or parenting responsibilities if she will have their child. She says no. Bill has no legal recourse.

However, if Bill doesn't want to have the child, no interest in having children and Susan still wants the child, Bill is on the hook for child support for the next 18 years. Susan has the legal system on her side.

I don't see anything remotely "equal" about that
 
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Flexacon on October 06, 2019, 01:33:50 PM
birth control is a man's responsibility. 

why? its in a women's Biology/DNA to get pregnant.  going against thousand of years of evolution.... good luck

women are meant to give birth and have babies. its at the core of what a women is meant to do - have babies!!



By that logic a man allowing the use any form of birth control with a woman would be going against 1000s  of years of evolution.

Men are meant to get women pregnant.

You Sir have been brainwashed.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 01:35:23 PM
Logically - Why are men responsible for babies?

Men can't be pregnant. Women are the ones who conceive and grow a baby. At this point its their thing.

I'm a good christian trump supporter I like to think. I just don't understand this at all. I'm definitely not saying men shouldn't step up but I feel like the burden should be on women?

Is it just that as society we've decided to not really be totally fair for the benefit of society as a whole?

Perhaps because it's difficult to raise kids as a single parent? If the guy "brings home the bacon" and the mother doesn't have to work, then most of the responsibility for the child is on her. Oh, and it takes a man or his seed to make a baby - which is all pleasure and no work. Pregnancy on the otherhand is a chore, lasting around 9 months. A better question is why would any woman in her right mind want to have and raise a baby alone?
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: el numero uno on October 06, 2019, 01:35:49 PM
I ask here because I get bitched out when I ask in real life. My friends have had their girlfriends "accidentally" get pregnant. How is that now a life changing problem for my male friends? They're not pregnant and the ladies knew thet THEIR bodies would produce a baby if exposed to sperm.

Having children is life changing for both women and men.

The man has to share the responsability because:


How is this even a question?
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 01:36:25 PM
Does this make any sense or has exposure to syphilis driven me mad??

This.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 01:36:30 PM
My issue with the abortion and equal rights situation regarding men and women.

Bill and Susan have been dating awhile. Bill makes $150K a year, Susan makes $100K. During one New Years Eve party Bill and Susan have a little too much to drink and they have sex without using protection. As luck would have it, Susan ends up pregnant.

As it stands, 100% of the decision to have the child or abort is with Susan. Bill, who can certainly chime in, has no say in the decision.

Lets say Bill has always wanted a child and really wants Susan to have this child. She says she doesn't want it so she's getting an abortion. Bill says he will sign any and all documents relieving her of any financial or parenting responsibilities if she will have their child. She says no. Bill has no legal recourse.

However, if Bill doesn't want to have the child, no interest in having children and Susan still wants the child, Bill is on the hook for child support for the next 18 years. Susan has the legal system on her side.

I don't see anything remotely "equal" about that
 

That's a big part of my thinking on it. It's their baby literally lol
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Slapper on October 06, 2019, 01:37:01 PM
I personally would. I just don't know how we're legally locking peoole into something that isn't really their problem.

Do you REALLY believe this?
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 01:37:36 PM
Perhaps because it's difficult to raise kids as a single parent? If the guy "brings home the bacon" and the mother doesn't have to work, then most of the responsibility for the child is on her. Oh, and it takes a man or his seed to make a baby - which is all pleasure and no work. Pregnancy on the otherhand is a chore, lasting around 9 months. A better question is why would any woman in her right mind want to have and raise a baby alone?

It's her issue though, the ball is in her court.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 01:40:11 PM
Do you REALLY believe this?

Yes, I 100% believe the responsibility of not getting pregnant or supporting the baby should be on her. She's the one who gets pregnant. She better make sure it is with someone who is into it.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 01:41:59 PM
When I was like 14 my dear southern granny told me protection should be the womens responsibility if she doesn't want a baby. What a lovely woman.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 06, 2019, 01:44:18 PM
My issue with the abortion and equal rights situation regarding men and women.

Bill and Susan have been dating awhile. Bill makes $150K a year, Susan makes $100K. During one New Years Eve party Bill and Susan have a little too much to drink and they have sex without using protection. As luck would have it, Susan ends up pregnant.

As it stands, 100% of the decision to have the child or abort is with Susan. Bill, who can certainly chime in, has no say in the decision.

Lets say Bill has always wanted a child and really wants Susan to have this child. She says she doesn't want it so she's getting an abortion. Bill says he will sign any and all documents relieving her of any financial or parenting responsibilities if she will have their child. She says no. Bill has no legal recourse.

However, if Bill doesn't want to have the child, no interest in having children and Susan still wants the child, Bill is on the hook for child support for the next 18 years. Susan has the legal system on her side.

I don't see anything remotely "equal" about that
 
Women only want "equality" when it benefits them.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 01:47:45 PM
My issue with the abortion and equal rights situation regarding men and women.

Bill and Susan have been dating awhile. Bill makes $150K a year, Susan makes $100K. During one New Years Eve party Bill and Susan have a little too much to drink and they have sex without using protection. As luck would have it, Susan ends up pregnant.

As it stands, 100% of the decision to have the child or abort is with Susan. Bill, who can certainly chime in, has no say in the decision.

Lets say Bill has always wanted a child and really wants Susan to have this child. She says she doesn't want it so she's getting an abortion. Bill says he will sign any and all documents relieving her of any financial or parenting responsibilities if she will have their child. She says no. Bill has no legal recourse.

However, if Bill doesn't want to have the child, no interest in having children and Susan still wants the child, Bill is on the hook for child support for the next 18 years. Susan has the legal system on her side.

I don't see anything remotely "equal" about that
 

Although it is the woman who bares the discomfort and sometime pleasure of pregnancy, I think the father should have some say as to choosing abortion or birth. In your example, if Bill has always wanted a child, he should not get involved with a woman who doesn't want one. There are some things which are important for couples to agree upon. Having children is one of those things.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 01:52:48 PM
Although it is the woman who bares the discomfort and sometime pleasure of pregnancy, I think the father should have some say as to choosing abortion or birth. In your example, if Bill has always wanted a child, he should not get involved with a woman who doesn't want one. There are some things which are important for couples to agree upon. Having children is one of those things.

Exactly, and if Susan doesn't want to raise a baby alone she should not allow Bill to cum in her.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 01:53:46 PM
It's her issue though, the ball is in her court.

Legally and morally it isn't her issue, it is their issue, as in "we are pregnant". Unfortuantely, with the 'me' generation everything is someone else's problem and never theirs. Too many people have little or no sense of responsibility.  
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 01:59:17 PM
When I was like 14 my dear southern granny told me protection should be the womens responsibility if she doesn't want a baby. What a lovely woman.

People's thinking has changed since your grandmother was having babies. I say it again, most couples today rely on two incomes to make ends meet. This is even more true when children are involved. Stay-at-home moms are fairly rare. Your lovely, dear southern granny gave you bad, out-of-date advice.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 02:00:18 PM
Legally and morally it isn't her issue, it is their issue, as in "we are pregnant". Unfortuantely, with the 'me' generation everything is someone else's problem and never theirs. Too many people have little or no sense of responsibility.  

Legally yes, morally I don't think so. Men are lied to all the time about contraceptives, etc. The most fair and equitable course of action is to put the burden on those who get pregnant.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 02:02:35 PM
Exactly, and if Susan doesn't want to raise a baby alone she should not allow Bill to cum in her.

Technically, she shouldn't allow Bill to stick his dick in her box. There's always the chance he'll leak some pre-cum loaded with swimmers....and then "that's all she wrote".
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: tommywishbone on October 06, 2019, 02:04:13 PM
So are we saying Test is better than Tren? Winstrol is better than Anavar?

I agree with both positions.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 02:04:27 PM
Legally yes, morally I don't think so. Men are lied to all the time about contraceptives, etc. The most fair and equitable course of action is to put the burden on those who get pregnant.

You want sex without risk. Maybe you should stick to jacking off and leave women alone. No chance of making a baby this way.  ;D
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 02:05:00 PM
So are we saying Test is better than Tren? Winstrol is better than Anavar?

I agree with both positions.
  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 02:06:10 PM
You want sex without risk. Maybe you should stick to jacking off and leave women alone. No chance of making a baby this way.  ;D

Oh I got the pornhub pulled up in another tab and a milf with tied tubes.  ;D
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: joswift on October 06, 2019, 02:08:31 PM
if a man doesnt want kids he can get snipped
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 02:13:32 PM
if a man doesnt want kids he can get snipped

But... men can't get pregnant.

I wish True Adonis was around. This is a lot like his argument about Auto Insurance being mandatory when it should be optional.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: joswift on October 06, 2019, 02:16:10 PM
But... men can't get pregnant.

I wish True Adonis was around. This is a lot like his argument about Auto Insurance being mandatory when it should be optional.

No, but they can pay child support...
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 02:18:18 PM
But... men can't get pregnant.

I wish True Adonis was around. This is a lot like his argument about Auto Insurance being mandatory when it should be optional.

Auto Insurance (or any other liability insurance) should only be optional to those who can afford to be self-insured to the level required by law. Anyone who can afford to self-insure is likely too smart to take that risk. This is a lot like the argument/discussion about responsibility and pregnancy.  ;)
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 02:19:52 PM
Auto Insurance (or any other liability insurance) should only be optional to those who can afford to be self-insured to the level required by law. Anyone who can afford to self-insure is likely too smart to take that risk. This is a lot like the argument/discussion about responsibility and pregnancy.  ;)

True Adonis come back
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 02:22:10 PM
True Adonis come back

 ;D ;D ;D Do you think he can hear you?
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 02:26:28 PM
;D ;D ;D Do you think he can hear you?

No but he purchased a bond for me to be self insured before he disappeared. I need it renewed soon  ;D
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 02:30:20 PM
No but he purchased a bond for me to be self insured before he disappeared. I need it renewed soon  ;D

You've used it up? Or, is it just that liability is so much more costly then it was a few years ago. If I see him, I'll let him know you are looking for him.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 02:36:03 PM
You've used it up? Or, is it just that liability is so much more costly then it was a few years ago. If I see him, I'll let him know you are looking for him.

I drove through a craft store intoxicated. Didn't quite cover the lawsuits lol
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2019, 02:46:01 PM
I drove through a craft store intoxicated. Didn't quite cover the lawsuits lol

Ever hear about an umbrella policy?
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 06, 2019, 04:04:34 PM
Ever hear about an umbrella policy?

I'm Muslim, we don't do insurance. It's a sin in the eyes of allah. Islam considers insurance to be 'gambling,' 'risk-taking' and 'usury' and is thus banned.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 06, 2019, 04:32:07 PM
I'm Muslim, we don't do insurance. It's a sin in the eyes of allah. Islam considers insurance to be 'gambling,' 'risk-taking' and 'usury' and is thus banned.

When did you convert?

Seriously though, if you’re a dude and don’t want to have the burden of a child, don’t fuck. It’s the woman’s choice like it or not.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 06, 2019, 05:21:47 PM
Logically - Why are men responsible for babies?

Men can't be pregnant. Women are the ones who conceive and grow a baby. At this point its their thing.

I'm a good christian trump supporter I like to think. I just don't understand this at all. I'm definitely not saying men shouldn't step up but I feel like the burden should be on women?

Is it just that as society we've decided to not really be totally fair for the benefit of society as a whole?

Simple answer is it takes two. You should realize the possible consequenses ahead of time. When you're young you don't think about it then all of a sudden she's pregnant.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: IroNat on October 06, 2019, 05:38:05 PM
My issue with the abortion and equal rights situation regarding men and women.

Bill and Susan have been dating awhile. Bill makes $150K a year, Susan makes $100K. During one New Years Eve party Bill and Susan have a little too much to drink and they have sex without using protection. As luck would have it, Susan ends up pregnant.

As it stands, 100% of the decision to have the child or abort is with Susan. Bill, who can certainly chime in, has no say in the decision.

Lets say Bill has always wanted a child and really wants Susan to have this child. She says she doesn't want it so she's getting an abortion. Bill says he will sign any and all documents relieving her of any financial or parenting responsibilities if she will have their child. She says no. Bill has no legal recourse.

However, if Bill doesn't want to have the child, no interest in having children and Susan still wants the child, Bill is on the hook for child support for the next 18 years. Susan has the legal system on her side.

I don't see anything remotely "equal" about that
 

Good points.

But would any man actually want the kid from a woman not his wife who he knocked up?
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Powerlift66 on October 06, 2019, 10:58:03 PM
Women: "we want equal rights, but need you to pay child support".
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 07, 2019, 01:45:46 AM
When did you convert?

Seriously though, if you’re a dude and don’t want to have the burden of a child, don’t fuck. It’s the woman’s choice like it or not.

never lol im totally kidding!! I hoped you would show a little more disappointment lol
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: deadz on October 07, 2019, 10:35:56 AM
Logically - Why are men responsible for babies?

Men can't be pregnant. Women are the ones who conceive and grow a baby. At this point its their thing.

I'm a good christian trump supporter I like to think. I just don't understand this at all. I'm definitely not saying men shouldn't step up but I feel like the burden should be on women?

Is it just that as society we've decided to not really be totally fair for the benefit of society as a whole?
You’re a homo, why do you care!
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2019, 10:50:02 AM
I'm Muslim, we don't do insurance. It's a sin in the eyes of Allah. Islam considers insurance to be 'gambling,' 'risk-taking' and 'usury' and is thus banned.

Most places, it is illegal to drive without liability auto insurance. If you get pulled over by the police around here and can't prove you have current auto insurance, they impound your vehicle and you walk, take a cab or the bus home. Being Muslim won't get you off the hook.

Notice that I capitalized Allah for you.  ;)
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2019, 10:51:20 AM
Good points.

But would any man actually want the kid from a woman not his wife who he knocked up?

That would be awkward.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2019, 10:54:54 AM
Women: "we want equal rights, but need you to pay child support".

If the father has custody of the kids, their mother pays child support. Not only that, but if his ex-wife supported him, he can ask for and get alimony. Seems pretty equal to me.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2019, 11:02:12 AM
Within the next 7 months, I'll have two additional great-grandchildren. Their parents will support them. But, I'll spoil them because that is what grandparents and great-grandparents do.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 07, 2019, 02:06:34 PM
You’re a homo, why do you care!

lol
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on October 07, 2019, 02:07:46 PM
Most places, it is illegal to drive without liability auto insurance. If you get pulled over by the police around here and can't prove you have current auto insurance, they impound your vehicle and you walk, take a cab or the bus home. Being Muslim won't get you off the hook.

Notice that I capitalized Allah for you.  ;)

False gods don't get capitalization.
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 08, 2019, 06:49:59 PM
If the father has custody of the kids, their mother pays child support. Not only that, but if his ex-wife supported him, he can ask for and get alimony. Seems pretty equal to me.

The father rarely gets custody of the child,the courts are heavily weighted towards the mother. Not very equal at all
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 08, 2019, 06:51:51 PM
Legally and morally it isn't her issue, it is their issue, as in "we are pregnant". Unfortuantely, with the 'me' generation everything is someone else's problem and never theirs. Too many people have little or no sense of responsibility.  

While it may be their issue, it's the equivalent of you your boss and you deciding on a project. While you may have input, the decision is actually your bosses and there isn't any recourse for you. So yes, it's a "their" issue only in regards to liability to the male
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 08, 2019, 06:52:58 PM
Good points.

But would any man actually want the kid from a woman not his wife who he knocked up?

I'm sure there are some, my point is that the woman holds 100% of the decision and the man is on the hook for that decision for 18 years
Title: Re: Why are men responsible for babies?
Post by: Marvin Martian on October 08, 2019, 07:26:25 PM
Men responsible for babies......  pffffttt    What kind of nonsense is that??? Just ask ESF - he will tell you that when you get a skank prego she should be happy. Even if you have a sunken jaw and beady face - hell man you’re a dope fiend and unsanitarily make steroids when you aren’t getting fucked up in prison.
Ain’t got no time to be responsible for no babies man.. get da fck out of her wit dat shih.