Why are men responsible for babies?

[Primemuscle]

When I was like 14 my dear southern granny told me protection should be the womens responsibility if she doesn't want a baby. What a lovely woman.

People's thinking has changed since your grandmother was having babies. I say it again, most couples today rely on two incomes to make ends meet. This is even more true when children are involved. Stay-at-home moms are fairly rare. Your lovely, dear southern granny gave you bad, out-of-date advice.

[Eyeball Chambers]

Legally and morally it isn't her issue, it is their issue, as in "we are pregnant". Unfortuantely, with the 'me' generation everything is someone else's problem and never theirs. Too many people have little or no sense of responsibility.  

Legally yes, morally I don't think so. Men are lied to all the time about contraceptives, etc. The most fair and equitable course of action is to put the burden on those who get pregnant.

[Primemuscle]

Exactly, and if Susan doesn't want to raise a baby alone she should not allow Bill to cum in her.

Technically, she shouldn't allow Bill to stick his dick in her box. There's always the chance he'll leak some pre-cum loaded with swimmers....and then "that's all she wrote".

[tommywishbone]

So are we saying Test is better than Tren? Winstrol is better than Anavar?

I agree with both positions.

[Primemuscle]

Legally yes, morally I don't think so. Men are lied to all the time about contraceptives, etc. The most fair and equitable course of action is to put the burden on those who get pregnant.

You want sex without risk. Maybe you should stick to jacking off and leave women alone. No chance of making a baby this way.  

[Primemuscle]

So are we saying Test is better than Tren? Winstrol is better than Anavar?

I agree with both positions.

 

[Eyeball Chambers]

You want sex without risk. Maybe you should stick to jacking off and leave women alone. No chance of making a baby this way.  

Oh I got the pornhub pulled up in another tab and a milf with tied tubes. 

[joswift]

if a man doesnt want kids he can get snipped

[Eyeball Chambers]

if a man doesnt want kids he can get snipped

But... men can't get pregnant.

I wish True Adonis was around. This is a lot like his argument about Auto Insurance being mandatory when it should be optional.

[joswift]

But... men can't get pregnant.

I wish True Adonis was around. This is a lot like his argument about Auto Insurance being mandatory when it should be optional.

No, but they can pay child support...

[Primemuscle]

But... men can't get pregnant.

I wish True Adonis was around. This is a lot like his argument about Auto Insurance being mandatory when it should be optional.

Auto Insurance (or any other liability insurance) should only be optional to those who can afford to be self-insured to the level required by law. Anyone who can afford to self-insure is likely too smart to take that risk. This is a lot like the argument/discussion about responsibility and pregnancy.  

[Eyeball Chambers]

Auto Insurance (or any other liability insurance) should only be optional to those who can afford to be self-insured to the level required by law. Anyone who can afford to self-insure is likely too smart to take that risk. This is a lot like the argument/discussion about responsibility and pregnancy.  

True Adonis come back

[Primemuscle]

True Adonis come back

  Do you think he can hear you?

[Eyeball Chambers]

Do you think he can hear you?

No but he purchased a bond for me to be self insured before he disappeared. I need it renewed soon 

[Primemuscle]

No but he purchased a bond for me to be self insured before he disappeared. I need it renewed soon 

You've used it up? Or, is it just that liability is so much more costly then it was a few years ago. If I see him, I'll let him know you are looking for him.

[Eyeball Chambers]

You've used it up? Or, is it just that liability is so much more costly then it was a few years ago. If I see him, I'll let him know you are looking for him.

I drove through a craft store intoxicated. Didn't quite cover the lawsuits lol

[Primemuscle]

I drove through a craft store intoxicated. Didn't quite cover the lawsuits lol

Ever hear about an umbrella policy?

[Eyeball Chambers]

Ever hear about an umbrella policy?

I'm Muslim, we don't do insurance. It's a sin in the eyes of allah. Islam considers insurance to be 'gambling,' 'risk-taking' and 'usury' and is thus banned.

[Irongrip400]

I'm Muslim, we don't do insurance. It's a sin in the eyes of allah. Islam considers insurance to be 'gambling,' 'risk-taking' and 'usury' and is thus banned.

When did you convert?

Seriously though, if you’re a dude and don’t want to have the burden of a child, don’t fuck. It’s the woman’s choice like it or not.

[Coach is Back!]

Logically - Why are men responsible for babies?

Men can't be pregnant. Women are the ones who conceive and grow a baby. At this point its their thing.

I'm a good christian trump supporter I like to think. I just don't understand this at all. I'm definitely not saying men shouldn't step up but I feel like the burden should be on women?

Is it just that as society we've decided to not really be totally fair for the benefit of society as a whole?

Simple answer is it takes two. You should realize the possible consequenses ahead of time. When you're young you don't think about it then all of a sudden she's pregnant.

[IroNat]

My issue with the abortion and equal rights situation regarding men and women.

Bill and Susan have been dating awhile. Bill makes $150K a year, Susan makes $100K. During one New Years Eve party Bill and Susan have a little too much to drink and they have sex without using protection. As luck would have it, Susan ends up pregnant.

As it stands, 100% of the decision to have the child or abort is with Susan. Bill, who can certainly chime in, has no say in the decision.

Lets say Bill has always wanted a child and really wants Susan to have this child. She says she doesn't want it so she's getting an abortion. Bill says he will sign any and all documents relieving her of any financial or parenting responsibilities if she will have their child. She says no. Bill has no legal recourse.

However, if Bill doesn't want to have the child, no interest in having children and Susan still wants the child, Bill is on the hook for child support for the next 18 years. Susan has the legal system on her side.

I don't see anything remotely "equal" about that
 

Good points.

But would any man actually want the kid from a woman not his wife who he knocked up?

[Powerlift66]

Women: "we want equal rights, but need you to pay child support".

[Eyeball Chambers]

When did you convert?

Seriously though, if you’re a dude and don’t want to have the burden of a child, don’t fuck. It’s the woman’s choice like it or not.

never lol im totally kidding!! I hoped you would show a little more disappointment lol

[deadz]

Logically - Why are men responsible for babies?

Men can't be pregnant. Women are the ones who conceive and grow a baby. At this point its their thing.

I'm a good christian trump supporter I like to think. I just don't understand this at all. I'm definitely not saying men shouldn't step up but I feel like the burden should be on women?

Is it just that as society we've decided to not really be totally fair for the benefit of society as a whole?

You’re a homo, why do you care!

[Primemuscle]

I'm Muslim, we don't do insurance. It's a sin in the eyes of Allah. Islam considers insurance to be 'gambling,' 'risk-taking' and 'usury' and is thus banned.

Most places, it is illegal to drive without liability auto insurance. If you get pulled over by the police around here and can't prove you have current auto insurance, they impound your vehicle and you walk, take a cab or the bus home. Being Muslim won't get you off the hook.

Notice that I capitalized Allah for you.