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You will never look at it the same after reading this
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I would suggest you go to a reputable jiu jitsu school and ask to roll with some guys. It's a humbling experience. They love guys that come to their dojo and challenge them. Whoever wrote that diatribe is a simpleton.
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I would suggest you go to a reputable jiu jitsu school and ask to roll with some guys. It's a humbling experience. They love guys that come to their dojo and challenge them. Whoever wrote that diatribe is a simpleton.
I don't "roll" with "guys". If it's fighting/sparring we're talking about, I am an adherent of the striking arts and I would drop one of those "guys" with a reverse roundhouse kick to the jaw as he attempts his failed takedown.
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I don't "roll" with "guys". If it's fighting/sparring we're talking about, I am an adherent of the striking arts and I would drop one of those "guys" with a reverse roundhouse kick to the jaw as he attempts his failed takedown.
Do you have any grappling experience or any ground game for that matter?
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I would suggest you go to a reputable jiu jitsu school and ask to roll with some guys. It's a humbling experience. They love guys that come to their dojo and challenge them. Whoever wrote that diatribe is a simpleton.
I’m SO tired of hearing guys challenge other guys to go to a BJJ club and “roll” (lame) with another.
Obviously a person who hasn’t trained it will be submitted in no time flat.
Doesn’t mean much of anything, really.
A fight pops out at a bar, no amount of rolling is gonna secure the win.
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Do you have any grappling experience or any ground game for that matter?
ITF Black Belt, Shotokan Brown Belt. I beat guys up.
I’m SO tired of hearing guys challenge other guys to go to a BJJ club and “roll” (lame) with another.
Obviously a person who hasn’t trained it will be submitted in no time flat.
Doesn’t mean much of anything, really.
A fight pops out at a bar, no amount of rolling is gonna secure the win.
You got that right. Streetfights are won with fists, feet, knees and elbows.
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A quick and well-timed combo or monstrous brute attack almost always wins a true-life altercation.
If you’re “rolling” around on the floor of a dance club or on a sidewalk, news flash: BOTH of you are going nowhere, fast. And if he’s got friends, you’re done dead.
Size, strength, speed, and aggression, reigns supreme in real dust-ups.
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You will never look at it the same after reading this
15 year old story?
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Lee Duffy didnt know any "rolling. "
He just put you down with a right hand from hell
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Lee Duffy didnt know any "rolling. "
He just put you down with a right hand from hell
Lee's brother, Chris Duffy, could teach him a thing or two about "rolling".
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Lee's brother, Chris Duffy, could teach him a thing or two about "rolling".
Lee had no brother. He was a loner. A one man wrecking machine who ruled with an iron fist. Lol, can you imagine the Duffer caring about "lockdown!" ::)
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What sold me on Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was how they approached these endless arguments.
They just simply challenged you to fight. They had an open challenge, made famous in an article on Rorion Gracie in Playboy magazine, in which they would pay anybody $10,000 if you could defeat a Gracie in a no rules bare-knuckle fight. The challenger didn't have to put up a dime and had nothing to lose except his pride. In those days, late 1980s and early 1990s we had challenges come in from all martial art styles. Every single one of them got their ass handed to them. The Gracies revolutionize martial arts and now if you don't have a grappling background you have no chance.
This Roast Beef guy can make all the claims he wants and tell us his styles and qualifications and ranks, but what he won't do is actually fight a legit Jiu-Jitsu black belt. It's not hard to do. A legit Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt is always willing and able to throw down. Unlike traditional martial arts where they always preached walking away from a fight and being a man of peace and all that yin yang baloney, not so with the Gracies. Insult them then be prepared to fight. They never made any bones about their belief that the whole point of martial is to be able to fight and to be ready to fight. There are other things you can get out of training because for most people training in martial arts they rarely, if ever, get into a real fight, but they never lose sight of the fact that martial arts is about fighting.
The Gracies developed their style, which is different from the original Jiu-Jitsu taught to them from the Japanese, by actually fighting. Both in the dojo and in the streets or beach.
And they have been fighting for real for generations.
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Nobody gives a shit about BJJ anymore.
Turned out good old american wrestling was superior, as proven in UFC time and time again.
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BJJ is now more of sport and exercise. And a great one at that. Tons of my buddies love it and thats cool.
For self defense purposes - one needs probably 1-2 years of going 2-3 x a week for it to do anything in a street fight situation vs anything else.
Wrestling and Boxing - and keeping ones self in good shape physically - probably far more effective overall.
In a typical street fight - bar fight, etc - who the F would try to go to the ground as a first resort and pull guard and try to work a arm bar or a choke? FNG dumb.
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How a real bar fight goes down...
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How a real bar fight goes down...
Blond looks great
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Road House is one of the dumbest movies of all time... and it's awesome ;D
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Road House is one of the dumbest movies of all time... and it's awesome ;D
I thought youd be bigger
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Road House is one of the dumbest movies of all time... and it's awesome ;D
I thought you'd be more fried.
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The Gracies lined up tomato cans for the so-called "gracie challenge". They carefully controlled the media surtounding their bouts, and would become violent when they got shown up and were beaten. Plenty of videos on the internet of the Gracies getting their asses kicked.
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The Gracies lined up tomato cans for the so-called "gracie challenge". They carefully controlled the media surtounding their bouts, and would become violent when they got shown up and were beaten. Plenty of videos on the internet of the Gracies getting their asses kicked.
They claim to have challenged lenny McLean.....after hed died.
Saying he never responded! ::)
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I’m SO tired of hearing guys challenge other guys to go to a BJJ club and “roll” (lame) with another.
Obviously a person who hasn’t trained it will be submitted in no time flat.
Doesn’t mean much of anything, really.
A fight pops out at a bar, no amount of rolling is gonna secure the win.
normally a distraction by pointing over their shoulder quickly followed by a sucker punch then on your toes..
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"ITF Black Belt, Shotokan Brown Belt. I beat guys up."
Sad juvenile BS ;D
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They claim to have challenged lenny McLean.....after hed died.
Saying he never responded! ::)
Why did Lenny die? I thought he was unstoppable.
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Why did Lenny die? I thought he was unstoppable.
Hes back like emperor Palpatine. Waiting
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Who wants to do bjj these days anyway? Big chance of getting the Coronavirus
Much safer to kick somebody in the face
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Who wants to do bjj these days anyway? Big chance of getting the Coronavirus
Much safer to kick somebody in the face
And smash them to bits when they're down. Grabbing their head and smashing it into the concrete then turning them on their front and smashing their spine in
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And smash them to bits when they're down. Grabbing their head and smashing it into the concrete then turning them on their front and smashing their spine in
That goes without saying
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BJJ is very effective. I've used it enough times over the years with altercations (that I tried at all costs to avoid).
What I will say is that I've always trained in both boxing and BJJ. I think BJJ is great, but I believe a striking game is incredibly necessary.
Going to the ground is great for BJJ guys and wrestlers, but if you fight a guy with great takedown defense and you only know BJJ, there goes everything you had in your bag of tricks.
Striking: Muay Thai > Kickboxing > Boxing (how I rank it)
Ground game: Wrestling > BJJ
Never be a one trick pony.
"1"
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How about krav maga?
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Everytime I'm in a bar fight and I drop to the ground and tell people to jump into my guard so I can submit them they start kicking me. >:(
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How about krav maga?
I dropped a krav maga guy. Dude tried to grab me by the throat and knee me in the balls. I put him in a wrist lock hammer kicked his right collar bone. All because his girlfriend couldn't keep her paws off my biceps.
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ITF Black Belt, Shotokan Brown Belt. I beat guys up.
You got that right. Streetfights are won with fists, feet, knees and elbows.
Wow, tell us about yours fights with Maoris in New Zealand & Thais in Bangkok !.
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Elvis was a red belt which is the highest you can go.
He was a high as you can get.
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Elvis was the king.
The karate king.
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ITF Black Belt, Shotokan Brown Belt. I beat guys up.
You got that right. Streetfights are won with fists, feet, knees and elbows. with knives and guns. Loser leaves in a bodybag.
There you go tough guy.
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What would be the best way to fight Meng haku in his prime
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What would be the best way to fight Meng haku in his prime
With a powerful law firm.
Hurt him financially.
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Where I live almost every BJJ school also offers striking or Muy Thai to be more well rounded.
I think the goal would to be well rounded fighter like Bas Rutten. He is excellent on his feet
or on the ground. Plus he loves head butts and liver shots. He's not afraid to teach real street fighting.
If schools teach like he does you can pretty well rounded. Let's face it most aholes in a bar
are only trained in sucker punches and sloppy hooks.
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One of the best strategies for a bar fight is avoiding visiting a bar.
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rumour has it, when tom prince was running the golds venice locker room he knocked out a bjj expert with one punch. he was 300 pounds back then.
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What would be the best way to fight Meng haku in his prime
Hair spray his eyes ..............he was pro wrestling circus clown or something , right ?.
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If you end up in a fight the person you are fighting is unlikely to be alone, so going to ground is fucking stupid..
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If you end up in a fight the person you are fighting is unlikely to be alone, so going to ground is fucking stupid..
whats your ground game like?
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Elvis was a red belt which is the highest you can go.
He was a high as you can get.
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Are you insinuating Elvis took drugs? A fine athlete like that would never jeopardise his health
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Hair spray his eyes ..............he was pro wrestling circus clown or something , right ?.
He crushed all
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What would be the best way to fight Meng haku in his prime
Darren if you had to play an air guitar rendition of Free Bird using a fully erect penis, would you rather use Goodrum’s or Wiggs’ “guitar”?
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Are you insinuating Elvis took drugs? A fine athlete like that would never jeopardise his health
Wasn't Elvis a DEA agent?
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Darren if you had to play an air guitar rendition of Free Bird using a fully erect penis, would you rather use Goodrum’s or Wiggs’ “guitar”?
Great question.
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Where I live almost every BJJ school also offers striking or Muy Thai to be more well rounded.
I think the goal would to be well rounded fighter like Bas Rutten. He is excellent on his feet
or on the ground. Plus he loves head butts and liver shots. He's not afraid to teach real street fighting.
If schools teach like he does you can pretty well rounded. Let's face it most aholes in a bar
are only trained in sucker punches and sloppy hooks.
I'm old school Karate. No need for all the smoke and mirrors. I find a kick to the head works quite nicely.
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ITF Black Belt, Shotokan Brown Belt. I beat guys up.
You got that right. Streetfights are won with fists, feet, knees and elbows.
And a knife, beer bottle, or a gun, anything you can pick up
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And a knife, beer bottle, or a gun, anything you can pick up
No need.
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So how would Mike Tyson have done in the UFC?
As tremendous as his striking was - truly, a beautiful work of art in motion to behold, along with the striking of Evander Holyfield - I just don't see him beating much more well-rounded heavyweight fighters, who fill the ranks of the UFC heavyweight division.
Do we have any examples to compare this too?
Because I can't think of any prolific striker who rose to the top of the UFC heavyweight rankings who did not also have top wrestling [Stipe Miocic and Brock Lesnar come to mind].
Discuss.
PS - I have UFC Fight Pass. Does anyone have any Ironage UFC fights that they recommend that I view?
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I'm old school Karate. No need for all the smoke and mirrors. I find a kick to the head works quite nicely.
Have you teach Mirko CroCop how to kick ...............
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So how would Mike Tyson have done in the UFC?
As tremendous as his striking was - truly, a beautiful work of art in motion to behold, along with the striking of Evander Holyfield - I just don't see him beating much more well-rounded heavyweight fighters, who fill the ranks of the UFC heavyweight division.
Do we have any examples to compare this too?
Because I can't think of any prolific striker who rose to the top of the UFC heavyweight rankings who did not also have top wrestling [Stipe Miocic and Brock Lesnar come to mind].
Discuss.
PS - I have UFC Fight Pass. Does anyone have any Ironage UFC fights that they recommend that I view?
In his prime, he would have destroyed anyone in his path. He had too much going for him: speed, foot work, and an unheard of punching power none of those bjj guys have ever encountered. An absolute animal from the worst streets of Brooklyn, with sledge hammer punching power
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In his prime, he would have destroyed anyone in his path. He had too much going for him: speed, foot work, and an unheard of punching power none of those bjj guys have ever encountered. An absolute animal from the worst streets of Brooklyn, with sledge hammer punching power
Have U teach him too how to fight .................... :D
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In his prime, he would have destroyed anyone in his path. He had too much going for him: speed, foot work, and an unheard of punching power none of those bjj guys have ever encountered. An absolute animal from the worst streets of Brooklyn, with sledge hammer punching power
So I'm guessing you think Tyson would have easily been able to keep the fight standing?
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To get Tyson on the ground you have to step in his punching range. The speed, power and precision of that man. Good luck avoiding getting caught.
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How would you have taken on Don The Dragon Wilson?
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To get Tyson on the ground you have to step in his punching range. The speed, power and precision of that man. Good luck avoiding getting caught.
You do know that Tyson was beaten right? sorry to burst your bubble and please don´t give me the but he was past his prime crap.
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whats your ground game like?
can you mend a bike puncture with two spoons instead of a tyre spanner?
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It´s not really a question of if BJJ is shit or not but rather the man behind it. It´s the same with choosing a style or school, what is more important is the teacher Sensei, sifu..etc.
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You do know that Tyson was beaten right? sorry to burst your bubble and please don´t give me the but he was past his prime crap.
Street fight son.
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Street fight son.
Oh shut up you moron. i find your posts so pathetic about these so called hard men. you are such a troll. Duffy this, Duffy that. just fuck off & die.
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Oh shut up you moron. i find your posts so pathetic about these so called hard men. you are such a troll. Duffy this, Duffy that. just fuck off & die.
Make me.
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How would you have taken on Don The Dragon Wilson?
I might not be able to beat Don the Dragon in a fight but I sure as hell could out act him. Ever seen one of his movies? ;D
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Roast Pork Pecs = Steven Seagal ;D
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Roast Pork Pecs = Steven Seagal ;D
Apples and oranges my friend. Seagal is an Aikido master, very tall and presently morbidly obese. I am a Karate black belt and a powerlifter/bodybuilder.
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Apples and oranges my friend. Seagal is an Aikido master, very tall and presently morbidly obese. I am a Karate black belt and a powerlifter/bodybuilder.
If you fight him, who would win !.
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WHO WANTS TO FIGHT WITH LUKE HABERMAN??(on drugs)
WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW??
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Since the Stone Age, humans have been using weapons to fight.
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In his prime, he would have destroyed anyone in his path. He had too much going for him: speed, foot work, and an unheard of punching power none of those bjj guys have ever encountered. An absolute animal from the worst streets of Brooklyn, with sledge hammer punching power
When was his prime? He was 23 years old when he got knocked out by Buster Douglas.
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When was his prime? He was 23 years old when he got knocked out by Buster Douglas.
this
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When was his prime? He was 23 years old when he got knocked out by Buster Douglas.
17-22 was his prime. By the time he lost the fight to Douglas he was in a mental decline.
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When was his prime? He was 23 years old when he got knocked out by Buster Douglas.
He was 23 when he knocked buster Douglas out
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what i learned from bas rutten
shotei to the head
punch to the body
everybody understimates the kick to the groin
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17-22 was his prime. By the time he lost the fight to Douglas he was in a mental decline.
Some career. ::) I hadn't even come close to my potential as an iron warrior at 23.
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Are you insinuating Elvis took drugs? A fine athlete like that would never jeopardise his health
A wicked libel there. Rattlesnake speed on display...
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I love these clips of Elvis. ;D He seemed to really get into these demos. It's a good thing he never had to actually fight anyone as he would have been killed.
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I don't think that would work in a real fight.
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Bas Rutten is one of those guys who have a funny and likeable personality but you have to be careful because he is crazy as f*ck.
Love the Bas.
Even Elvis is very careful around Bas.
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I love these clips of Elvis. ;D He seemed to really get into these demos. It's a good thing he never had to actually fight anyone as he would have been killed.
You can tell Elvis believed in the power of Chi.
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I’m SO tired of hearing guys challenge other guys to go to a BJJ club and “roll” (lame) with another.
Obviously a person who hasn’t trained it will be submitted in no time flat.
Doesn’t mean much of anything, really.
A fight pops out at a bar, no amount of rolling is gonna secure the win.
What kind of simpleton goes to a bar?
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What kind of simpleton goes to a bar?
Welcome back.. ;)
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To get Tyson on the ground you have to step in his punching range. The speed, power and precision of that man. Good luck avoiding getting caught.
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