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I don't like the sound of this at all. It's the dream of every Leftist/Liberals in America to gain virtual complete government control. Everyone knows this doesn't happen overnight. It's inch by nefarious inch. They getting a big one here.
Democratic Governor of Kentucky, Andy Behere, announced that anyone "caught" attending Easter services will have their license plate numbers recorded and LE will show up in person, at your home, and receive a "notice" that they have to remain in their homes for a 14 day quarantine.
It's OK to keep liquor and grocery stores open but you are not allowed, under the force of government, to celebrate one of the holiest days in Christianity.
Not only government control but control over religious expression. What a coup for the Left.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/492346-kentucky-governor-announces-state-will-record-license-plate-information
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They are doing it for your own good!
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They can get away with government overreach in Australia - the pussies gave up their guns in 1996 over a massacre in "Port Arthur" [which is the same name of the part of Thunder Bay that I live in].
The USA has 300 million guns owned by 80 million private gun owners. There is no way that serious government overreach will last in the long-run in the USA.
I am concerned about what is happening now, but the USA is armed to the teeth, and the American government will not get away with unwanted authoritarianism if they try to pull it off.
It's 2020 USA, not 1922 USSR.
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They can get away with government overreach in Australia - the pussies gave up their guns in 1996 over a massacre in "Port Arthur" [which is the same name of the part of Thunder Bay that I live in].
The USA has 300 million guns owned by 80 million private gun owners. There is no way that serious government overreach will last in the long-run in the USA.
I am concerned about what is happening now, but the USA is armed to the teeth, and the American government will not get away with unwanted authoritarianism if they try to pull it off.
It's 2020 USA, not 1922 USSR.
This is over simplistic view...^
That's why building fear and doubt is important, as the people are not as sure what is right and wrong regarding whether they should rise up against government overreach....
I agree very much with OP this is a big concern, how much of this erosion of individual liberties will governments try to hold onto after this, they always take some.. As a society we are headed in the wrong direction and after this its big time.
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They can get away with government overreach in Australia - the pussies gave up their guns in 1996 over a massacre in "Port Arthur" [which is the same name of the part of Thunder Bay that I live in].
The USA has 300 million guns owned by 80 million private gun owners. There is no way that serious government overreach will last in the long-run in the USA.
I am concerned about what is happening now, but the USA is armed to the teeth, and the American government will not get away with unwanted authoritarianism if they try to pull it off.
It's 2020 USA, not 1922 USSR.
Oh, I'm not too worried. As much as America has been pussified and feminized over the last few decades there are still enough of us with balls and guns who will only take so much. It will start with mass protest and if the government tries a China and use force to express and defend our rights under the Constitution then you will see another real civil war. And I don't think for a minute that all of LE will support tyranny.
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Very concerning. This thing, when it’s over, the ripple effect will go on for who knows how long. People will remember things that you are mentioning and wondering what the hell we’ve become as a country.
Are mosques and synagogues closed as well?
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This is over simplistic view...^
That's why building fear and doubt is important, as the people are not as sure what is right and wrong regarding whether they should rise up against government overreach....
I agree very much with OP this is a big concern, how much of this erosion of individual liberties will governments try to hold onto after this, they always take some.. As a society we are headed in the wrong direction and after this its big time.
Yes, very clear thinking. I want to emphasize that this is not a "call for arms" moment but just another example of government representing the Left just moving inch by inch to further government control.
Just think of it. You go to church on Easter taking all the precautions wearing masks and observing all personal hygiene and then someone shows up at your door telling you that you car has been sighted as being in the parking lot in front of a church on Easter Sunday. They will give you a citation forcing you to quarantine yourself at home for the next 14 days.
How long will it be before they remove you from your home at the dead of night as they did to people in East Germany.
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Very concerning. This thing, when it’s over, the ripple effect will go on for who knows how long. People will remember things that you are mentioning and wondering what the hell we’ve become as a country.
Are mosques and synagogues closed as well?
Very, very good question that I didn't consider. I wouldn't be surprised if it was enforced on synagogues but Muslims, whom represent the greatest threat of violent terrorism, are a protected group.
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In Sydney we have had incremental restrictions on our freedom. At the moment most beaches are closed. Today they closed the walk from Bondi to Tamarama. Too many people out doing exercise.
We can go to the shops for most things but gyms, clubs, and all social activites closed or highly restricted as to numbers. We are allowed to exercise but can't go to national parks any more. No travel either.
They have closed most borders between the states. Only NSW and Victoria kept theirs open. Police are at all the other borders.
You are not supposed to go anywhere except for food, doctor, etc. So no outings with family. No going out to take photos even!
The government suggests these restrictions might go on for 6 months. The infection rate is going down but the restrictions will remain.
Things will soon become unbearable for most people. We can't go on like this for 6 months. It is like being in house arrest.
I really dislike when police are brought in to enforce policies. There is no discussion, only enforcement. People are being fined for
silly things. Just a matter of time before people say enough is enough!
https://www.9news.com.au/just-in
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Things will soon become unbearable for most people. Just a matter of time before people say enough is enough.
Lately I’ve been saying this a lot.
At a certain point, a majority of people will simply stop isolating and get on with their lives, being as cautious as possible, but no longer willing to go along with government urging to live like an inmate.
And businesses will open back up and not give a shit about fines, etc.
When you’re all but bankrupt, your house is about to be re-possessed, and your family is starting to go without, who gives a shit about some goofy fines? Enough will do it that collecting on those fines will be next to impossible.
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I don't like the sound of this at all. It's the dream of every Leftist/Liberals in America to gain virtual complete government control. Everyone knows this doesn't happen overnight. It's inch by nefarious inch. They getting a big one here.
Democratic Governor of Kentucky, Andy Behere, announced that anyone "caught" attending Easter services will have their license plate numbers recorded and LE will show up in person, at your home, and receive a "notice" that they have to remain in their homes for a 14 day quarantine.
It's OK to keep liquor and gorcery stores open but you are not allowed, under the force of government, to celebrate one of the holiest days in Christianity.
Not only government control but control over religious expression. What a coup for the Left.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/492346-kentucky-governor-announces-state-will-record-license-plate-information
Agree 100%. Get ready for our militias to start bringing back some order. Notice these are happening in mostly (if not all) Dem ran states. They don’t want to reopen the economy and they want to continue to take away your constitutional rights
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Choosing totalitarianism over essential liberty is the essence of self-inflicted, enslavement. The mass media is inciting the memebots to turn us away from teamwork and into a political propaganda clusterfuck. My most immediate concern is how this is an excuse to lurch into authoritarianism, totalitarianism and even global governance.
The nations initiating socialism-on-steriods such as the pretext/precursor of universal basic income , nationalizing healthcare with Trump forced to use the DPA, nationalizing many industries, etc.. Thus the governments will need to become even more strict about tax collection and capital controls. This is the perfect pretext to establishing the one world currency I’ve previously talked about, enslavement system for all to see on a public ledger (bitcoin).
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Choosing totalitarianism over essential liberty is the essence of self-inflicted, enslavement. The mass media is inciting the memebots to turn us away from teamwork and into a political propaganda clusterfuck. My most immediate concern is how this is an excuse to lurch into authoritarianism, totalitarianism and even global governance.
The nations initiating socialism-on-steriods such as the pretext/precursor of universal basic income , nationalizing healthcare with Trump forced to use the DPA, nationalizing many industries, etc.. Thus the governments will need to become even more strict about tax collection and capital controls. This is the perfect pretext to establishing the one world currency I’ve previously talked about, enslavement system for all to see on a public ledger (bitcoin).
I always thought the one world currency was conspiracy nonsense until this, it is now a legitimate concern I have stemming from this....
As said having police enforcing fines for being outside your home is a police state, virus or not.... It must end and sooner than later. 6 months is pure madness, people will have to stand up.
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In Australia the police are going around searching homes and giving out fines to people who breech the new laws.
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In Australia the police are going around searching homes and giving out fines to people who breech the new laws.
Yeah right ;D
YouTube for Dr.David Sinclair latest interview about Olive oil & Resveratrol ;)
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Excellent news from Melbourne :
26 refugee activist fined with $ 43K for breaching physical-distancing , $ 1652 individually ;D
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It is obvious that the governments have to be taken seriously. That is why the police are involved catching those who disobey the orders. Well, they justify this because those people could be spreading the virus.
So people can't go where they feel like even though this is a public holiday. Here in Sydney it is a glorious warm sunny Easter Sunday. What a bummer. Nicest time of the year and we are grounded.
If the public see and hear that people get fined for things they will stay home. That is what the government wants. I hope when this is finished that all those fines are refunded...well except for serious offences.
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It is obvious that the governments have to be taken seriously. That is why the police are involved catching those who disobey the orders. Well, they justify this because those people could be spreading the virus.
So people can't go where they feel like even though this is a public holiday. Here in Sydney it is a glorious warm sunny Easter Sunday. What a bummer. Nicest time of the year and we are grounded.
If the public see and hear that people get fined for things they will stay home. That is what the government wants. I hope when this is finished that all those fines are refunded...well except for serious offences.
Must be Kidding, they won't refund a single one...
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(https://i.postimg.cc/Pr95cFjd/lockdown.jpg)
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I don't like the sound of this at all. It's the dream of every Leftist/Liberals in America to gain virtual complete government control. Everyone knows this doesn't happen overnight. It's inch by nefarious inch. They getting a big one here.
Democratic Governor of Kentucky, Andy Behere, announced that anyone "caught" attending Easter services will have their license plate numbers recorded and LE will show up in person, at your home, and receive a "notice" that they have to remain in their homes for a 14 day quarantine.
It's OK to keep liquor and gorcery stores open but you are not allowed, under the force of government, to celebrate one of the holiest days in Christianity.
Not only government control but control over religious expression. What a coup for the Left.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/492346-kentucky-governor-announces-state-will-record-license-plate-information
https://www.foxnews.com/us/judge-kentucky-church-can-conduct-easter-drive-in-service
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In England they re searching shopping trolleys. I will hurt a copper that trys look in my trolley
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Agree 100%. Get ready for our militias to start bringing back some order. Notice these are happening in mostly (if not all) Dem ran states. They don’t want to reopen the economy and they want to continue to take away your constitutional rights
This is just the first run. Look for these lockdowns to occur regularly to "keep us safe." The next lockdown will be in Oct or Nov when Covid19 comes back for the winter, that is IF they ever stop the current lockdown first.
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I can't even recall how many getbig badass, gun totin' conservative/republicans have said they would take up arms against the government during times like this. And, nothing. I have even seen people say this on social media, etc. And, nothing. Where are all these badasses now? haha lol. Sitting at home cleaning their guns. The government has literally told them they can't leave their homes. Why aren't they taking up arms? They seem rather content to listen to the government. This proved that all of these gun totin' badasses are a bunch of talk and would do what their government told them to do.
So, how many badass getbig, gun totin' conservatives have taken up arms against the government?
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Lately I’ve been saying this a lot.
At a certain point, a majority of people will simply stop isolating and get on with their lives, being as cautious as possible, but no longer willing to go along with government urging to live like an inmate.
And businesses will open back up and not give a shit about fines, etc.
When you’re all but bankrupt, your house is about to be re-possessed, and your family is starting to go without, who gives a shit about some goofy fines? Enough will do it that collecting on those fines will be next to impossible.
Getting on with one's life is going to be extremely tough when everything is closed--most businesses will continue to adhere to government regulations, as they wouldn't want backlash, which means people still won't be able to go to to work. And, if people gather in parks, they will likely be dispersed by law enforcement. So, how are all these people going to get on with their lives with no job to to go to, no movie to attend, no concerts, no sport stadium, no bars, no restaurants, no parks, no gym, etc? Shit, even if you throw a BBQ/house party, all it takes is one neighbor to call the cops and you have them arriving at your doorsteps, telling all of your guests to go home because of social distancing. One's life, to a great extent, is totally dependent on the government.
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This is how getbiggers think they would respond to government over-reach:
(https://cdn.britannica.com/26/188426-050-2AF26954/Germany-Poland-September-1-1939.jpg)
(https://allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/world-war-2-photos-wounded.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Approaching_Omaha.jpg)
This is how getbiggers would really respond:
(https://pics.me.me/dont-worry-sir-im-from-the-internet-26309979.png)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3AWvEreQ1k1gI/giphy.gif)
(https://miro.medium.com/max/1200/1*j6EuxpfNGB_cms9lVwOeHQ.jpeg)
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I can't even recall how many getbig badass, gun totin' conservative/republicans have said they would take up arms against the government during times like this. And, nothing. I have even seen people say this on social media, etc. And, nothing. Where are all these badasses now? haha lol. Sitting at home cleaning their guns. The government has literally told them they can't leave their homes. Why aren't they taking up arms? They seem rather content to listen to the government. This proved that all of these gun totin' badasses are a bunch of talk and would do what their government told them to do.
So, how many badass getbig, gun totin' conservatives have taken up arms against the government?
;D ;D Haha ,exactly
All it would take
(https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/giphy.gif?w=364)
and this is what your neighborhood would look like after
(https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef017c34d16b61970b-640wi)
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;D ;D Haha ,exactly
All it would take
(https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/giphy.gif?w=364)
and this is what your neighborhood would look like after
(https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef017c34d16b61970b-640wi)
Ms. Pelosi: "Hand over your guns."
Getbigger: "Her you go, Ms. Pelosi."
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Ms. Pelosi: "Hand over your guns."
Getbigger: "Her you go, Ms. Pelosi."
;D
(https://media.tenor.com/images/43d1d7cf7bcadd847172124dbf7334a5/tenor.gif)
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This looks just like China a couple months ago.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-without-face-mask-removed-160047813.html
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I can't even recall how many getbig badass, gun totin' conservative/republicans have said they would take up arms against the government during times like this. And, nothing. I have even seen people say this on social media, etc. And, nothing. Where are all these badasses now? haha lol. Sitting at home cleaning their guns. The government has literally told them they can't leave their homes. Why aren't they taking up arms? They seem rather content to listen to the government. This proved that all of these gun totin' badasses are a bunch of talk and would do what their government told them to do.
So, how many badass getbig, gun totin' conservatives have taken up arms against the government?
Give it a rest SF. Seriously.
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;D ;D Haha ,exactly
All it would take
(https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/giphy.gif?w=364)
and this is what your neighborhood would look like after
(https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef017c34d16b61970b-640wi)
Yeah - because terrorism doesn't work, lol. You truly are a stupid fuck.
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I would take up arms against the government if they told me I had to leave my basement >:(
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Yeah - because terrorism doesn't work, lol. You truly are a stupid fuck.
Haha we have our first badass ,''hypertrophy '',oh brother ;D ;D
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/4612b86385e7c03ae6ab7e4ee2fbd3a6/tumblr_n6p98prICc1rhwe3do3_400.gif)
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In England they re searching shopping trolleys. I will hurt a copper that trys look in my trolley
Er... surely you mean your Missus's trolley...?
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Give it a rest SF. Seriously.
I guess they are just internet badasses. ??? ???
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Haha we have our first badass ,''hypertrophy '',oh brother ;D ;D
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/4612b86385e7c03ae6ab7e4ee2fbd3a6/tumblr_n6p98prICc1rhwe3do3_400.gif)
They would all do absolutely nothing, just like they are doing now. Silent.
No offense, hypertrophy.
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They would all do absolutely nothing, just like they are doing now. Silent.
No offense, hypertrophy.
99% of ordinary people are pussies , that is a fact
But #1 terrorist Hyperbintrophy is part of the 1% ;D ;D
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Ms. Pelosi: "Hand over your guns."
Getbigger: "Her you go, Ms. Pelosi."
We don’t have guns in Ireland 😉
But yeah I sorta laugh at guys who stock up on guns a few dudes ain’t gonna take on the gov, they’ll blow ya to pieces it wouldn’t be no wako
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No matter the political climate one has to stand up for self determination.
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I can't even recall how many getbig badass, gun totin' conservative/republicans have said they would take up arms against the government during times like this. And, nothing. I have even seen people say this on social media, etc. And, nothing. Where are all these badasses now? haha lol. Sitting at home cleaning their guns. The government has literally told them they can't leave their homes. Why aren't they taking up arms? They seem rather content to listen to the government. This proved that all of these gun totin' badasses are a bunch of talk and would do what their government told them to do.
So, how many badass getbig, gun totin' conservatives have taken up arms against the government?
I don’t think I’ve ever said I would go out blasting, I’m more of a “keep guns around in case the government breaks down and I need them for protection” type guy. Insurance if you will.
But, I would say you may be underestimating humans in general if you think a rag tag militia couldn’t and wouldn’t cause problems if things were to disintegrate into something like Venezuela. Our country was founded by a group of rebel’s who were fed up with their government. It happens all over the world. I assume one day it will be “our turn” to fall apart and rebuild.
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I don’t think I’ve ever said I would go out blasting, I’m more of a “keep guns around in cascade the government breaks down and I need them for protection” type guy. Insurance if you will.
But, I would say you may be underestimating humans in general if you think a rag tag militia couldn’t and wouldn’t cause problems if things were to disintegrate into something like Venezuela. Our country was founded by a group of rebel’s who were fed up with their government. It happens all over the world. I assume one day it will be “our turn” to fall apart and rebuild.
Getbiggers would say, "Of course, whatever you want Government."
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Pelius why don't you something for once instead of bashing keys. Please don't punch a bum though.
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;D ;D Haha ,exactly
All it would take
(https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/giphy.gif?w=364)
and this is what your neighborhood would look like after
(https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef017c34d16b61970b-640wi)
Pretty sure they tried that for 20 years against a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan ...... now considering peace talks.
And that is without considering collateral damage you know, 69yr old granny next door to that gun totting rebel.
Why do you think they keep trying to ban guns?
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Our founding fathers gave us the best example of what to do when a government becomes tyrannical.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government...”
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I always thought the one world currency was conspiracy nonsense until this, it is now a legitimate concern I have stemming from this....
As said having police enforcing fines for being outside your home is a police state, virus or not.... It must end and sooner than later. 6 months is pure madness, people will have to stand up.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/08/05/kyle-bass-chinas-currency-would-drop-30percent-to-40percent-without-support.html
Kyle Bass: China's currency would collapse 30% to 40% if they stopped supporting it
PUBLISHED MON, AUG 5 2019 3:35 PM EDT
UPDATED TUE, AUG 6 2019 3:48 AM EDT
Bass has been spot on about China. There were two options: let the dollar appreciate 30-40%. That would’ve created a cash crunch, crashing the housing market and busting the banks again. Or, devaluating the dollar using a flu bug as a pretext.
The economic slowdown was going to happen either way. So, TPTB went with the latter.
This explains why Trump is on board. This way, he can hide behind Corona as an an excuse for a recession.
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Pretty sure they tried that for 20 years against a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan ...... now considering peace talks.
And that is without considering collateral damage you know, 69yr old granny next door to that gun totting rebel.
Why do you think they keep trying to ban guns?
GTFO of here , how in the fuck can you compare people that grew up in war zones and don't give a fuck about dying , to the regular American/getbigger that is crying because their gym is close . ::)
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;D ;D Haha ,exactly
All it would take
(https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/giphy.gif?w=364)
and this is what your neighborhood would look like after
(https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef017c34d16b61970b-640wi)
Actually if civil unrest becomes any real issue National Guard will enforce martial law. If the National Guard turns on the politicians I think the UN would send troops. Not 100% on that so dont quote me.
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Can we please have some more people quote that photo of guns? Only 5 times so far.
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Can we please have some more people quote that photo of guns? Only 5 times so far.
There you go.
;D ;D Haha ,exactly
All it would take
(https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/giphy.gif?w=364)
and this is what your neighborhood would look like after
(https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef017c34d16b61970b-640wi)
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;D ;D Haha ,exactly
All it would take
(https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/giphy.gif?w=364)
and this is what your neighborhood would look like after
(https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef017c34d16b61970b-640wi)
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Let's see if we can quote that 100 times before the end of the day!
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To enforce a Totalitarian state, you need to have the enforcement arm on board. In the “Epicenter,” they’re just not that into it:
Number of NYPD cops out sick drops for first time in 27 days
https://nypost.com/2020/04/10/number-of-nypd-cops-out-sick-drops-for-first-time-in-27-days/
Nearly 20 percent of the force, or 7,096 officers, were still out sick to end the week, but that number was slightly down from Thursday, when 7,155 cops had called out.
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Trust us, you have coronavirus:
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;D
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Bet me
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Bet me
1st Hypertrophy and now Coach. Shit just got real. Gov't must be convening now to assess this threat. Pentagon is q-ing up the anti tire flipping defense system. Lmfao.
😂
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GTFO of here , how in the fuck can you compare people that grew up in war zones and don't give a fuck about dying , to the regular American/getbigger that is crying because their gym is close . ::)
You’re smarter than this, I’ve read your posts. Forget about the Getbiggers, think of the loner hillbilly’s. Who’s to say after two decades of decline our population would t think the same way?
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1st Hypertrophy and now Coach. Shit just got real. Gov't must be convening now to assess this threat. Pentagon is q-ing up the anti tire flipping defense system. Lmfao.
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If you don't think rights keep being taken away people (by Dems) and they won't start fighting back, you're higher than a kite.
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1st Hypertrophy and now Coach. Shit just got real. Gov't must be convening now to assess this threat. Pentagon is q-ing up the anti tire flipping defense system. Lmfao.
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Good
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They have closed most borders between the states. Only NSW and Victoria kept theirs open. Police are at all the other borders.
Australian states borders , ;D ;D ;D
Cops a on Pacific & 2-3 other "highways" only :D
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You’re smarter than this, I’ve read your posts. Forget about the Getbiggers, think of the loner hillbilly’s. Who’s to say after two decades of decline our population would t think the same way?
C'mon Irongrip400 you’re smarter than this, I’ve read your posts , You think a loner hillbilly is going to take down the American Government ;D ;D
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1st Hypertrophy and now Coach. Shit just got real. Gov't must be convening now to assess this threat. Pentagon is q-ing up the anti tire flipping defense system. Lmfao.
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Haha ;D
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No matter the political climate one has to stand up for self determination.
But Frau Merkel was shaking again , how could Deutschland tolerate this .................
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I guess people forgot, or never really knew, what happened during the LA riots. Something that I witnessed in real-time with my binoculars on top of the helicopter pad on the roof of Rockwell International in El Segundo, CA. The people did in fact take arms against the authorities and the police retreated never to return until nearly two weeks later along with the National Guard. This was true anarchy and those who did not have guns and couldn't protect themselves paid the consequences. It was very satisfying seeing Koreans, no stranger to war, setting up barricades, positioning themselves, and firing at any and all threats. Their businesses were saved and not burned down and looted as so many others were.
The question here is not so much who will win but will people fight back if pushed enough. We have done it here (Waco, Ruby Ridge) and it has been done all throughout the world all through history when the people have turned against and overthrown their government through force of arms.
Sure a lot of Americans are cowards and complacent but not all. I wouldn't underestimate the will of the American people. Anybody involved in the gun culture knows how many militias are out there ready and willing to fight. This country was in a large part founded on the principles of freedom and liberty and it's still embedded in a lot of our hearts. We've overthrown the ruling government tyranny before.
People here, and around the world, always underestimate the Amerian people's resolve.
We're not called the sleeping giant for nothing. We are slow to be roused into action but once we do its game one.
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Pelius why don't you something for once instead of bashing keys. Please don't punch a bum though.
Coming from a worthless gimmick who has never started a single thread that anybody cared about and stimulated a serious discussion such as this one.
All you do is shoot spitballs while hiding like a coward to compensate for being bullied in real life.
It's people like you that really bring this board down and disgust so many people. You, and the rest of the gimmicks like you, should be banned. You've been banned before but keep coming back with another gimmick.
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When was the last time people overthrow their gorvernment, anywhere in the world?
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Great Thread Pellius & lots of Truths & Good ideas
I see a lot of abuse of power going on.
I like your train of thought.
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When was the last time people overthrow their gorvernment, anywhere in the world?
Arab spring
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When was the last time people overthrow their gorvernment, anywhere in the world?
It happened in several Latin-American countries in the 90's. Fun fact: in most cases the population was unarmed.
When people feel their rights are being taken away, they riot and can overthrow Governments. This hasn't been the case in the Coronavirus shutdowns. I guess most people feel it's necessary, and not that the Government is trying to impose a Communist regime.
Of course, for some Getbiggers it seems to be a matter of principles. A "you don't get to deny my right to go out" thing. And while I can understand that, I can easily see they're not going to do a thing about it, regardless of how many guns they have at home.
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Arab spring
Venezuela ;D
British BREXIT vs EU ;)
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C'mon Irongrip400 you’re smarter than this, I’ve read your posts , You think a loner hillbilly is going to take down the American Government ;D ;D
Well at least we can agree on that, broseph.
When was the last time people overthrow their gorvernment, anywhere in the world?
For real?
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Oh, I'm not too worried. As much as America has been pussified and feminized over the last few decades there are still enough of us with balls and guns who will only take so much. It will start with mass protest and if the government tries a China and use force to express and defend our rights under the Constitution then you will see another real civil war. And I don't think for a minute that all of LE will support tyranny.
Take so much of what? The only was the US government will take you out is letting all of you paranoid gun owners to panic and kill each other in big dick swinging contest. You have right to own guns but to use it as an excuse to hold the gov accountable is ridiculous.
Imagine shooting a drone at 30000 feet.
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Take so much of what? The only was the US government will take you out is letting all of you paranoid gun owners to panic and kill each other in big dick swinging contest. You have right to own guns but to use it as an excuse to hold the gov accountable is ridiculous.
Imagine shooting a drone at 30000 feet.
Hi Bernie !.
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Hi Bernie !.
It not socialism, just reality.
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I wasn't putting much stock in Americans fighting back based on my local communities Facebook page. Hysterical, tattle tailing, etc. It was pretty embarrassing and I won't look at my community the same again after this. However, we are making national news (MI) with the beginnings of some form of "protest"/illogicalness of Whitmer's latest edicts and there seem to be a lot more like minds then what I anticipated so I haven't completely thrown in the towel but also not getting my hopes up too much.
Full scale civil war you would have to hope that some military would take our side and not the governments.
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Take so much of what? The only was the US government will take you out is letting all of you paranoid gun owners to panic and kill each other in big dick swinging contest. You have right to own guns but to use it as an excuse to hold the gov accountable is ridiculous.
Imagine shooting a drone at 30000 feet.
You just go about your life like the obsequious little coward that you are, passively allowing your rights to be step on as you submissively follow any and all orders. There are still enough men left with the fighting spirit that will stand up for our right. You are the majority that che talked about. The spineless cowards.
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Full scale civil war you would have to hope that some military would take our side and not the governments.
This^
If it gets to that point in the west, the gov will have to roll over.
large scale riots would be about as bad as it got before they did...
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This^
If it gets to that point in the west, the gov will have to roll over.
large scale riots would be about as bad as it got before they did...
Yes, the idea that all our American soldiers and law enforcement will slaughter their own citizens
because the government tells them to, especially when the people are fighting for their rights that the military and LE are sworn to protect, again has no idea what are people are made of.
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Fortress has no dependants.
If any person or entity tries to restrict my freedom, or abolish it, I have zero hesitation to “push back”. And while, unarmed, this might not amount to much, relatively speaking, my blood will spill in equal measure to my force, and my honour will be intact.
Hail and kill.
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Fortress has no dependants.
If any person or entity tries to restrict my freedom, or abolish it, I have zero hesitation to “push back”. And while, unarmed, this might not amount to much, relatively speaking, my blood will spill in equal measure to my force, and my honour will be intact.
Hail and kill.
There are more people like you than the Lefties believe. Freedom and liberty is what this country was founded on and still embedded in our DNA. Many of us will fight to the death than be a slave to the government.
My only advice is to get yourself armed. Put as much of a fight as you can against anybody or anything. I remember after the LA riots how many of my liberal friends contacted me on advice about guns. The leftist here laugh and mock those who are willing to fight back, but if they ever experience their home or business being raided, burned down, their daughters and wives raped as they, the man of the house, sit back impotent and whimpering for mercy, will have a totally different perspective on life and how the first line of protection is you and not passively waiting for someone, someone with a gun, to come rescue them.
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Very concerning. This thing, when it’s over, the ripple effect will go on for who knows how long. People will remember things that you are mentioning and wondering what the hell we’ve become as a country.
Are mosques and synagogues closed as well?
My guess would be that anywhere personal distancing is requested, including synagogues, mosques and Mormon temples, etc. since no race, ethnicity or people of particular religious beliefs are magically immune to contracting COVID-19 are closed or adapting in some way.
It is interesting how some folks don't get that what is happening is happening worldwide and not just in the U.S.
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Yes, the idea that all our American soldiers and law enforcement will slaughter their own citizens
because the government tells them to, especially when the people are fighting for their rights that the military and LE are sworn to protect, again has no idea what are people are made of.
hahahah of course they would, didnt you learn anything from our previous discussion about the capabilities of humans to do evil things..
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hahahah of course they would, didnt you learn anything from our previous discussion about the capabilities of humans to do evil things..
No, not on a large scale they wouldn't.
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The government has literally put small businesses out of business—their liberties have been denied.
I’m still waiting for all the so called getbig bad ass gun totin’ republicans to take up arms (like they said they would).
??? ??? ???
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The government has literally put small businesses out of business—their liberties have been denied.
I’m still waiting for all the so called getbig bad ass gun totin’ republicans to take up arms (like they said they would).
??? ??? ???
I can tell you the gym business is a precarious one. High investment, low return and long hours. Ditto restaurants. How are they going to survive the shutdowns?
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I can tell you the gym business is a precarious one. High investment, low return and long hours. Ditto restaurants. How are they going to survive the shutdowns?
They won't.
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I can tell you the gym business is a precarious one. High investment, low return and long hours. Ditto restaurants. How are they going to survive the shutdowns?
They won't.
I normally visit a small run business owned by a husband and wife (diner). The husband informed me that they may go under if this continues to last.
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Why would you be against having your personal freedom restricted if it would help save the lives of others?
There is nothing cool, honorable or admirable in being selfish.
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The government has literally put small businesses out of business—their liberties have been denied.
I’m still waiting for all the so called getbig bad ass gun totin’ republicans to take up arms (like they said they would).
??? ??? ???
I wouldn’t take up arms against the entire “government”, I’d take up arms against liberals and those who push the liberal ideology that causes the social shitfests in the first place. It would be fine to eradicate coronavirus and liberalism at the same time.
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No, not on a large scale they wouldn't.
people can be easily made to do the wrong thing, peer pressure, not wanting to let the team down, being ridiculed for not doing whats expected even though whats expected is despicable.
History is littered with it
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U.S. Citizens put up with all kinds of restrictions during ww2.
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U.S. Citizens put up with all kinds of restrictions during ww2.
This is not WW2 or an alien invasion, or an extinction level event like a giant meteor strike or something like took out the Dinosaurs.
Its a bad virus that hits some people worse than others. Even if we had a million dead - is that worst ending the country over? To me no.
But thats where were heading for a death court not even a fraction of that.
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"Freedom is not an abstract concept, We give it meaning every single day – in the way we live our lives – and in the decisions we take willingly to protect our loved ones."
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/finn-mcredmond-now-we-know-the-true-meaning-of-freedom-1.4227343 (https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/finn-mcredmond-now-we-know-the-true-meaning-of-freedom-1.4227343)
The concept of liberty is a lot more nuanced than we realised
You would make a perfect subject in the USSR or NK
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A great way for the government to get more control and practice a take over with the military.
In South Africa, I usually never see police, now they're everywhere, waiting to stop cars and ask for proof where they are going etc or else can arrest them.
For instance, I'm not allowed to take someone (who can't drive) to buy food, I have to buy it for them, keep the receipt as proof when I get stopped and interrogated at a roadblock and then deliver the food and keep the receipt for my return trip.
Also alcohol and cigarettes are now 'banned' so predictably liquor stores are getting raided and looted, anyone with even a semi functioning brain could have predicted this. Prohibition in the US led to the rise of the organised crime.
If this 'lockdown' continues, next up will be the shops.
All this seems more like an excuse for the government to take more control of the population, if they extend it again, people will start rioting. For people living week to week, how can they afford with no income to buy weeks worth of food?
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I can tell you the gym business is a precarious one. High investment, low return and long hours. Ditto restaurants. How are they going to survive the shutdowns?
I'm concerned for the folks who own two of the gyms I work out at. It's a successful family business. They have a large loyal following of folks like myself who have been members for decades. Some of them, like me, no longer pay dues in the traditional sense because our memberships are covered by our MedAvantage health insurance via Silver and Fit or Silver Sneakers, which only pay the gym when we folks actually show up. Obviously, during this time the gym isn't getting paid. I'm not sure what is happening with their regular members who pay either monthly or annually like I used to do.
I also work out at several locations all over the Portland Metro area of nationally franchised gyms. L.A. Fitness is not collecting dues during the shutdown according to information they provided when they shut the doors almost a month ago. 24 Hour Fitness is still collecting monthly dues but plan to tack on a free month at the end of annual memberships. Like with the other gyms, these concerns are only paid when we seniors show up.
The other day, when I was craving a cheeseburger and fries, I went to Burgerville, which is a locally owned chain. If other fast food take out operations are a busy as theirs was, these places should be doing fine. However, of the three local Starbucks, only one is open for takeout and that's because it is a drive-though. Another one which is located inside the Safeway grocery store is also open, but only for take-out (walk away), since all seating has been removed. A high-end restaurant near me is open for take out. Since everything there is cooked or fixed to order, people call ahead and are given a pickup time. I haven't tried to order food from my local Chinese restaurant, but they have always had a good take out business. I imagine they are open for take out during this time.
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I can tell you the gym business is a precarious one. High investment, low return and long hours. Ditto restaurants. How are they going to
survive the shutdowns?
But U use to be "Successfull Businessman", REMEMBER ::)
;D
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Fortress has no dependants.
If any person or entity tries to restrict my freedom, or abolish it, I have zero hesitation to “push back”. And while, unarmed, this might not amount to much, relatively speaking, my blood will spill in equal measure to my force, and my honour will be intact.
Hail and kill.
X2 I’m with you
👍🏻💪🏻
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Would be cool if Fortress one day would tell us some war stories from all his time defending american freedom in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Somalia.
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Would be cool if Fortress one day would tell us some war stories from all his time defending american freedom in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Somalia.
I thought Fortress said he is Canadian ?
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Just drove from San Diego to Santa Bárbara. Traffic is getting heavier, people are saying fuq it, im going out. Good for them. Screw the governor
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Just drove from San Diego to Santa Bárbara. Traffic is getting heavier, people are saying fuq it, im going out. Good for them. Screw the governor
You are rich if you live there
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hahahah of course they would, didnt you learn anything from our previous discussion about the capabilities of humans to do evil things..
Hahaha! Granny-face flapping his lips again. I remember quite well our previous discussion where you were exposed as an amoral, creepy, weirdo. No one agreed with you. You're like the madman on the street corner yelling in the street about doom and gloom. Nobody here takes you seriously. You have no credibility and the official broad's kook. You have no idea how many here in America take the Constitution and the rights guaranteed in it seriously. Even LE and government officials. You're by nature a compliant, submissive, little sissyboy and the stereotypical example of the pussification of men today. Just because you blindly and complacently follow orders without question you assume and project on to others that they are like the sad, weak, pathetic cuck that you are. We're Americans. We escaped your country and it's control and then later kicked your butt and got you out of lives forever. Now you answer to us. We're Americans and we are cut from a much different stock than from the likes like you.
Now get back on all fours as your wife is waiting with her Black strap-on, you despicable little cuck.
-- awaits lame gif and the "meltdown" comment"
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No, not on a large scale they wouldn't.
You're trying to reason with a cowardly little bitch that knows nothing about human nature and Americans in particular. His M.O. is to always talk with authority on things he knows nothing about. He was brutally owned after pontificating on the coronavirus and tried to change his tune when exposed on how wrong he was. He, typically, tried to weasel his way out of it like the detestable little snake that he is.
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Streets are busier but early shutdowns at grocery stores is concerning. Also they arent keeping things in stock its down at least 30 percent of course plenty of sugary cereals. They are gunning for a lockdown socialist police state i firmly beleive there is a plot to wipe out most of the population through more bad food or they will start bombing and shooting us to keep us safe. They will literally kill us to make us safe. They will take us out state by state and youll never know once they pull th plug on cell phone or internet. They will flood us out also erased
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Just drove from San Diego to Santa Bárbara. Traffic is getting heavier, people are saying fuq it, im going out. Good for them. Screw the governor
Day after Easter Monday, hardly any trucks & no road trains on the roads in Australia !.Empty buses too !.
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The government has literally put small businesses out of business—their liberties have been denied.
I’m still waiting for all the so called getbig bad ass gun totin’ republicans to take up arms (like they said they would).
??? ??? ???
No. They didn't literally put them out of business. That would be when they would "literally" show up to their business and shut them down. The circumstances were such, as so many times in the past, had to close down due to regulations imposed on them. I guess you missed the thread where people commented on things they hate in common speech such as beginning each sentence with the word: "like" or "basically". Well, the constant misuse of the word "literally" was another pet peeve.
You really think that people will take arms at the drop of the hat? You seem to take pleasure and satisfaction that people are not shooting at government officials (though in places like Chicago they are fascinating cops). You expect at this point civilians will form armies and attack the capital. What we are saying is that unlike you, many will only take so much before they rebel. It will start with isolated cases where individuals fight back, then protests and if it gets to the point where people are gunned down and mowed over as they did in China then we will fight back. You may be a very compliant and docile person by nature but don't underestimate the will of a lot of Americans who still have a fighting spirit. We've proved it time and time again.
But this is the divide in this country. People who have a fighting spirit and cherish their personal liberty and freedom and those who have become soft and complacent and think freedom and liberty is the natural state of things and put all their trust in the government and welcome being taken care by them as you stated in another thread. "Who wouldn't want to be taken care of by the government?" Well, not me. Just like why I wanted to move out and be on my own and not be taken care of by my parents well into my thirties like so many "men" do today,
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Why would you be against having your personal freedom restricted if it would help save the lives of others?
There is nothing cool, honorable or admirable in being selfish.
Haha! So ignorant of world history. That is the main argument promoted by every totalitarian government. "We are doing it for your own good."
The question is not always what is right or good for you but who should decide. We could be a much safer society if we became a police state. Station police booths every mile. Anyone could be search and arrested for any reason or no reason. Authorities could storm into your house at any time to search for drugs or weapons. We could be much healthier people if we force the population to go to the gym three times a week and perform a government prescribed workout. We could eliminate foods the government deems unhealthy. We could assign food cards that track and limit how much and what you can eat.
Yes, we will be safer and healthier -- but at what cost?
Why would someone be against having their personal freedom restricted for their own good? Because we are Americans.
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I wouldn’t take up arms against the entire “government”, I’d take up arms against liberals and those who push the liberal ideology that causes the social shitfests in the first place. It would be fine to eradicate coronavirus and liberalism at the same time.
A dream come true.
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people can be easily made to do the wrong thing, peer pressure, not wanting to let the team down, being ridiculed for not doing whats expected even though whats expected is despicable.
History is littered with it
Just weak-willed cucks like you. And, yes, the world is very much littered with the likes of you.
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U.S. Citizens put up with all kinds of restrictions during ww2.
Yes, there was rationing which people understood and supported. There was also the internment of the Japanese. Do you support that and use that as a precedent for present-day restrictions on civil liberties because of a disease that is fatal to less than 1% of the population?
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I'm concerned for the folks who own two of the gyms I work out at. It's a successful family business. They have a large loyal following of folks like myself who have been members for decades. Some of them, like me, no longer pay dues in the traditional sense because our memberships are covered by our MedAvantage health insurance via Silver and Fit or Silver Sneakers, which only pay the gym when we folks actually show up. Obviously, during this time the gym isn't getting paid. I'm not sure what is happening with their regular members who pay either monthly or annually like I used to do.
I also work out at several locations all over the Portland Metro area of nationally franchised gyms. L.A. Fitness is not collecting dues during the shutdown according to information they provided when they shut the doors almost a month ago. 24 Hour Fitness is still collecting monthly dues but plan to tack on a free month at the end of annual memberships. Like with the other gyms, these concerns are only paid when we seniors show up.
The other day, when I was craving a cheeseburger and fries, I went to Burgerville, which is a locally owned chain. If other fast food take out operations are a busy as theirs was, these places should be doing fine. However, of the three local Starbucks, only one is open for takeout and that's because it is a drive-though. Another one which is located inside the Safeway grocery store is also open, but only for take-out (walk away), since all seating has been removed. A high-end restaurant near me is open for take out. Since everything there is cooked or fixed to order, people call ahead and are given a pickup time. I haven't tried to order food from my local Chinese restaurant, but they have always had a good take out business. I imagine they are open for take out during this time.
You were "craving a cheeseburger and fries"? Poor thing. STFU! You soggy old queer. We're talking about bigger issues here. "Cheeseburger and fries", just fuk off you pampered cuck-sucking pervert!
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Would be cool if Fortress one day would tell us some war stories from all his time defending american freedom in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Somalia.
And you could tell us stories about how you were bullied in high school and forced to give everybody blow jobs at frat parties.
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And you could tell us stories about how you were bullied in high school and forced to give everybody blow jobs at frat parties.
Legit lol.
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I also work out at several locations all over the Portland Metro area of nationally franchised gyms.
Odd behavior.
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Odd behavior.
Odd queer.
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Pellius, this happened in your back yard. Two people flew into HI and were jailed for going to the grocery store.
I mean granted, they don't appear to be too bright(one looks like Beavis and the other looks like Pauly Shore, haha) but for god's sake - they probably just needed to go to the store.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/04/11/hawaii-news/911-report/couple-reminded-twice-later-arrested-on-kauai-for-violating-14-day-quarantine/
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I read a great quote somewhere in the last day.
"making sick people stay home is quarantine, making well people stay home is tyranny"
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Pellius, this happened in your back yard. Two people flew into HI and were jailed for going to the grocery store.
I mean granted, they don't appear to be too bright(one looks like Beavis and the other looks like Pauly Shore, haha) but for god's sake - they probably just needed to go to the store.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/04/11/hawaii-news/911-report/couple-reminded-twice-later-arrested-on-kauai-for-violating-14-day-quarantine/
And we have a grand total of 9 deaths in all the Hawaiian islands. Most of those were elderly with preexisting conditions. Less than 1/10th of one percent have been diagnosed with the virus and of those over 60% has recovered. We have a total of 36 patients out of a million here on Oahu, the most populated island.
It's bullshit.
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No. They didn't literally put them out of business. That would be when they would "literally" show up to their business and shut them down. The circumstances were such, as so many times in the past, had to close down due to regulations imposed on them. I guess you missed the thread where people commented on things they hate in common speech such as beginning each sentence with the word: "like" or "basically". Well, the constant misuse of the word "literally" was another pet peeve.
You really think that people will take arms at the drop of the hat? You seem to take pleasure and satisfaction that people are not shooting at government officials (though in places like Chicago they are fascinating cops). You expect at this point civilians will form armies and attack the capital. What we are saying is that unlike you, many will only take so much before they rebel. It will start with isolated cases where individuals fight back, then protests and if it gets to the point where people are gunned down and mowed over as they did in China then we will fight back. You may be a very compliant and docile person by nature but don't underestimate the will of a lot of Americans who still have a fighting spirit. We've proved it time and time again.
But this is the divide in this country. People who have a fighting spirit and cherish their personal liberty and freedom and those who have become soft and complacent and think freedom and liberty is the natural state of things and put all their trust in the government and welcome being taken care by them as you stated in another thread. "Who wouldn't want to be taken care of by the government?" Well, not me. Just like why I wanted to move out and be on my own and not be taken care of by my parents well into my thirties like so many "men" do today,
More excuses because it’s all talk. None of you will do anything about it ever. A bunch of internet badasses lol.
Btw, I’d love for the government to take care of me every day.
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More excuses because it’s all talk. None of you will do anything about it ever. A bunch of internet badasses lol.
Btw, I’d love for the government to take care of me every day.
No. LOL at you for being a coward and not willing to fight for your civil rights. Our entire history is replete with brave Americans standing up and fighting for their civil rights.
You can make your challenge because it's an easy one. If it ever comes to that and someone fights and defends themselves against government overreach like Randy Weaver did at Ruby Ridge they will not come back to you and say, "See, I told you so." By all indications, you have lived a rather shelter and pampered life and have no idea what kind of Americans are out there. Men of spirit and conviction. That is completing foreign to you.
And just the fact that you would like to be a ward of the State is a very good indication of what kind of man you are. Just like when you lived with your parents while in your thirties, it comes with a cost. You have to obey their rules. Don't think that when you are under government care you are also under government control. But you might not care. As you never had to fight for freedom and don't appreciate what it took to give you this freedom you have become complacent and very willing to trade your freedom for safety and security.
It's so sad that this what has become of so many American men today. So willing to give up their rights and freedoms to the government on the foolish belief that they will take care of them and put their welfare first and foremost.
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Why would someone be against having their personal freedom restricted for their own good? Because we are Americans.
What if restricting your freedom now leads to greater freedom later? Then not restricting your freedom would be unamerican.
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You were "craving a cheeseburger and fries"? Poor thing. STFU! You soggy old queer. We're talking about bigger issues here. "Cheeseburger and fries", just fuk off you pampered cuck-sucking pervert!
He's like a mold or fungus and it seems just about every thread om getbig these days attracts him in some way shape or form.
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What if restricting your freedom now leads to greater freedom later? Then not restricting your freedom would be unamerican.
If and when you get out of 5th grade revisit your post here and then see what you think of it.
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And you could tell us stories about how you were bullied in high school and forced to give everybody blow jobs at frat parties.
How many years did you spend in a war zone defending the american freedom?
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If and when you get out of 5th grade revisit your post here and then see what you think of it.
Would you accept any restrictions of freedom to save someone from dying or would that be unamerican?
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More excuses because it’s all talk. None of you will do anything about it ever. A bunch of internet badasses lol.
Btw, I’d love for the government to take care of me every day.
I'm trying to figure out if they are legitimate bad asses.
If they are, I suspect they have spent years upon years in the military, defending freedom all across the globe.
I'm looking forward to their stories.
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What if restricting your freedom now leads to greater freedom later? Then not restricting your freedom would be unamerican.
Yes, but that is a good question and a good point. But do you really believe that is the case here? How are you supporting yourself now? I've asked you this before and you've ignored the question.
So many people are losing their livelihoods. Even those that have money what are you going to do when there are shortages. When you can't buy anything. Right now the largest producers of meat say there will be a shortage because of the restrictions and drop in business. Do you think this is the only industry where there will be shortages? As more and more people lose jobs and income and the longer and longer this goes on do you really think that the government just printing more paper money is going to fix this? Do you think that if they printed a 1,000 trillion dollars that we will now be a rich country?
The real purpose of these lockdowns is to flatten the curve. People don't understand what that means. It doesn't mean there will be fewer cases. It just means that it will prevent a spike so that hospitals aren't overwhelmed all at once. Flattening the curve does prevent these spikes but it also means that though the curve will flatten it will also be longer.
This is not a fatal disease for over 99% of the population. People recover and they move on. If what we are doing to our country continues it will cause far more hardships, sickness, crime, and disease. Wait until you get to a point when you can no longer keep a roof over your head and food on the table. Just look back in history at all the countries that use to be thriving and are now in abject poverty. Venezuela is a recent example. Compare to that, getting a bad flu for a few weeks is nothing.
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I'm trying to figure out if they are legitimate bad asses.
If they are, I suspect they have spent years upon years in the military, defending freedom all across the globe.
I'm looking forward to their stories.
What I don't get is why is he baiting people who believe that their civil rights are being threatened and want to stand up to it. Ridiculing those that believe in the Constitution and the idea of freedom and liberty which this country was founded on. He may be fine with surrendering his rights to the government because he just ignores all the history of what happens when the people surrender their rights but why mock and bait those that hold these truths to be self-evident and are endowed with unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and, as so many have in our noble history pledge their life fortunes, and sacred honor.
Look at what's happening now and how politicians are simply ignoring the Constitution. In Michigan, the governor decreed that you can't travel even to another residence. Even if you own that residence. You can only have so many people in your own home. Not only are businesses closed but even those that are open like a Walmart or Costco have to barricade sections that are not food or medicine. If you want to buy a hammer, a water hose, paint, shoes or sandal, a shirt the stores are no longer allowed to sell it. They have to barricade those aisles. If you are not buying food or drugs then you should not be at the store.
And this is just the beginning. It sure didn't take much for the Left (the governor is a Democrat) to start to reveal their totalitarian desires and seize more power and control over the people.
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Would you accept any restrictions of freedom to save someone from dying or would that be unamerican?
Since I already have the answer is yes and yes.
The government does not guarantee my safety nor health nor did I ever expect them to. I expect my elected representatives to uphold the Constitution and to make educated decisions based on the overall greater good.
In a nutshell I would not ask nor expect anyone to suffer in any way shape or form so that I might live. Tomorrow is promised to no one.
Now, whether the actions of our elected representatives are with the greater good in mind I have to keep faith that they are. We the people elected these persons to their positions, we the people should support their decisions until it becomes self evident (meaning everybody can agree with certainty) that they are not.
God help us if we get to that point, but time will tell.
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What I don't get is why is he baiting people who believe that their civil rights are being threatened and want to stand up to it. Ridiculing those that believe in the Constitution and the idea of freedom and liberty which this country was founded on. He may be fine with surrendering his rights to the government because he just ignores all the history of what happens when the people surrender their rights but why mock and bait those that hold these truths to be self-evident and are endowed with unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and, as so many have in our noble history pledge their life fortunes, and sacred honor.
Look at what's happening now and how politicians are simply ignoring the Constitution. In Michigan, the governor decreed that you can't travel even to another residence. Even if you own that residence. You can only have so many people in your own home. Not only are businesses closed but even those that are open like a Walmart or Costco have to barricade sections that are not food or medicine. If you want to buy a hammer, a water hose, paint, shoes or sandal, a shirt the stores are no longer allowed to sell it. They have to barricade those aisles. If you are not buying food or drugs then you should not be at the store.
And this is just the beginning. It sure didn't take much for the Left (the governor is a Democrat) to start to reveal their totalitarian desires and seize more power and control over the people.
Ive been following the debacle in Michigan and Ive come to the conclusion the governor has been caught totally offguard and is pretty much clueless as to what she should do.
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There is a reason why I never vote for women.
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There is a reason why I never vote for women.
I wouldnt vote for one personally.
That said I had a good laugh when we were handed our shelter in place commands. I read up on the rules and I shit you not, you can ride a bicycle for essential exercise but not as a means of transportation.
I was like wtf why make rules you would have no hope of enforcing?
Pandemic has brought the word LAME a whole new meaning...but at least I can still go to Home Depot and actually buy whatever I want lol.
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No. LOL at you for being a coward and not willing to fight for your civil rights. Our entire history is replete with brave Americans standing up and fighting for their civil rights.
You can make your challenge because it's an easy one. If it ever comes to that and someone fights and defends themselves against government overreach like Randy Weaver did at Ruby Ridge they will not come back to you and say, "See, I told you so." By all indications, you have lived a rather shelter and pampered life and have no idea what kind of Americans are out there. Men of spirit and conviction. That is completing foreign to you.
And just the fact that you would like to be a ward of the State is a very good indication of what kind of man you are. Just like when you lived with your parents while in your thirties, it comes with a cost. You have to obey their rules. Don't think that when you are under government care you are also under government control. But you might not care. As you never had to fight for freedom and don't appreciate what it took to give you this freedom you have become complacent and very willing to trade your freedom for safety and security.
It's so sad that this what has become of so many American men today. So willing to give up their rights and freedoms to the government on the foolish belief that they will take care of them and put their welfare first and foremost.
You’d be sitting home on your couch with the rest of the Internet badasses lol
If possible, I’d love for the government to give me a check every month. I see no problem with the government providing most things for its people. Hell, I have been fervently checking the mailbox for my $1,200.00 check.
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Here's my take:
They had to do something, otherwise hospitals etc would been overcrowded, not only resulting in the death of old people, but others, in there for all kinds of reasons.
They had to win time, so they could get up to speed on things, make sure there were masks, respirators etc.
The next thing to do is making sure the old people and people in society that are more important than others don't get sick.
After this has been taken care of, everyone else needs to get out there - and get infected!
A strategy would be to have Foo Fighters play every weekend for three months. This will have people in the right age and race demographic get infected.
You can't have Beyonce play - then poor black people working in hospitals would be infected.
You can't have Bruce Springsteen play - then old people would get infected.
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The governments at all levels have to be seen doing something to protect the health of everyone. Nothing much was done at first then too much done after the horses had bolted.
In Sydney we had a cruise ship dock and people got off and went all over Australia and many people got the virus through a few people on board.
Now cruise ships are prevented from docking in Australia except to pick up fuel and supplies. People arriving here have to stay in a hotel for 2 weeks. If they go out and are caught
they get a huge fine.
In retrospect why didn't they intercept anyone coming from China or other countries that had widespread infections? I recall that Trump wasn't too concerned when the news first
came out. Now everyone is shitting themselves trying to do something.
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Because those dirty disgusting bat cat dog rat eating Chine lied about it and covered it up - and knowingly sent hundreds of thousands of people all over the world for months.
The governments at all levels have to be seen doing something to protect the health of everyone. Nothing much was done at first then too much done after the horses had bolted.
In Sydney we had a cruise ship dock and people got off and went all over Australia and many people got the virus through a few people on board.
Now cruise ships are prevented from docking in Australia except to pick up fuel and supplies. People arriving here have to stay in a hotel for 2 weeks. If they go out and are caught
they get a huge fine.
In retrospect why didn't they intercept anyone coming from China or other countries that had widespread infections? I recall that Trump wasn't too concerned when the news first
came out. Now everyone is shitting themselves trying to do something.
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Because those dirty disgusting bat cat dog rat eating Chine lied about it and covered it up - and knowingly sent hundreds of thousands of people all over the world for months.
Yep, haha. Because closing the borders was "racist".
So now we have a global pandemic on our hands which could result in literally MILLIONS of people dying.
But yeah...ooooh, racism, LOL. Haha. ;D Oh leftists...they so moronic...
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Getting on with one's life is going to be extremely tough when everything is closed--most businesses will continue to adhere to government regulations, as they wouldn't want backlash, which means people still won't be able to go to to work. And, if people gather in parks, they will likely be dispersed by law enforcement. So, how are all these people going to get on with their lives with no job to to go to, no movie to attend, no concerts, no sport stadium, no bars, no restaurants, no parks, no gym, etc? Shit, even if you throw a BBQ/house party, all it takes is one neighbor to call the cops and you have them arriving at your doorsteps, telling all of your guests to go home because of social distancing. One's life, to a great extent, is totally dependent on the government.
And none of the getbiggers will do a damn thing ;D
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You’re smarter than this, I’ve read your posts. Forget about the Getbiggers, think of the loner hillbilly’s. Who’s to say after two decades of decline our population would t think the same way?
The white trash won’t do a damn thing, shooting a couple of deers, schools, and at the gun range don’t count, the hebrews and Latinos will be too busy killing each other, looting, Jordan’s and Yeezy shoes, to notice anything that’s going on
This ain’t the 1930’s and 1940’s anymore where you had legitimate bad asses, we now have guys in bunny suits
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Overthrowing of governments are done by tiny students, not gun waving muscle men.
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Would you accept any restrictions of freedom to save someone from dying or would that be unamerican?
Do you accept the economic bomb millions have to suffer to save .6 %?
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No. LOL at you for being a coward and not willing to fight for your civil rights. Our entire history is replete with brave Americans standing up and fighting for their civil rights.
You can make your challenge because it's an easy one. If it ever comes to that and someone fights and defends themselves against government overreach like Randy Weaver did at Ruby Ridge they will not come back to you and say, "See, I told you so." By all indications, you have lived a rather shelter and pampered life and have no idea what kind of Americans are out there. Men of spirit and conviction. That is completing foreign to you.
And just the fact that you would like to be a ward of the State is a very good indication of what kind of man you are. Just like when you lived with your parents while in your thirties, it comes with a cost. You have to obey their rules. Don't think that when you are under government care you are also under government control. But you might not care. As you never had to fight for freedom and don't appreciate what it took to give you this freedom you have become complacent and very willing to trade your freedom for safety and security.
It's so sad that this what has become of so many American men today. So willing to give up their rights and freedoms to the government on the foolish belief that they will take care of them and put their welfare first and foremost.
Pellius, curious to know, did you ever serve in the military? Desert storm? I assume you were too young for Nam
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Do you accept the economic bomb millions have to suffer to save .6 %?
I believe it’s actually less. And while I’m sure if I was on the receiving end statistic wise I would think differently, I’m at this point wondering the same in regards to the damage done to save the .6 percent.
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Do you accept the economic bomb millions have to suffer to save .6 %?
Either you think something had to be done (and if you believe that you agree with every single expert in economy on the planet)
If you don't believe that, then you automatically put yourself and your opinion above every single expert in economy on the planet, and to do this you have to a moron.
So think about that for a second, chances are you realize you are a moron.
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Pellius, curious to know, did you ever serve in the military? Desert storm? I assume you were too young for Nam
he only goes to war on bums in his neighbourhood
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Got my 'Deceleration of Citizen's Movement in Exceptional Cases Form' today which includes reasons like going to a pharmacy or a shop for essential supplies. Need to sign it and carry national ID.
If not a citizen, don't know what they will do.
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Either you think something had to be done (and if you believe that you agree with every single expert in economy on the planet)
If you don't believe that, then you automatically put yourself and your opinion above every single expert in economy on the planet, and to do this you have to a moron.
So think about that for a second, chances are you realize you are a moron.
Chances are I can converse like an adult
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Common its not like you ever lived in a totalitarian state
Maybe you would enjoy it
Stop being so negative
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I'm trying to figure out if they are legitimate bad asses.
If they are, I suspect they have spent years upon years in the military, defending freedom all across the globe.
I'm looking forward to their stories.
Getbig's new motto:
Getbig: Where Navy Seals Retire!
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How many years did you spend in a war zone defending the american freedom?
I worked for over twenty years with the DOD in aerospace where our function was to develop and refine weapons system including radars, predator drones, tomahawk missiles. I've been to South America, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait.
Nobody has to be in a war zone to appreciate and honor those that fight and die to defend this country. We need the support of everyone to be a strong country. You were the one mocking someone that supports this country. You are the one of many who has had freedom just handed to you and therefore take it for granted. Blessed to those who still appreciate the sacrifice made by others. Remember what Jesus told Thomas who doubted his existence. You don't have to fight for freedom to revere something that is not natural in this world and honor so many who have fought and died for it.
Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
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Ive been following the debacle in Michigan and Ive come to the conclusion the governor has been caught totally offguard and is pretty much clueless as to what she should do.
Or, since she's in line for the VP spot, just posturing and drawing attention to herself. But also it's the nature of Liberals to always gain as much power and control over the people.
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You’d be sitting home on your couch with the rest of the Internet badasses lol
If possible, I’d love for the government to give me a check every month. I see no problem with the government providing most things for its people. Hell, I have been fervently checking the mailbox for my $1,200.00 check.
I actually, at the request of my friend who was out of town, drove into the out spot armed and ready, to pick up his wife and child and bring them to a much safer spot in Lomita to stay with their parents. I went during the day which was much safer and had to brandish my Glock once when a group started to approach my car. People have no idea how bad it was and what true anarchy is like and when Blacks go on a rampage. People look at Reginald Denny being dragged out of his car and beaten nearly to death and think it was just an isolated incident and it doesn't really register as much because it's on TV and they see things like that all the time in the movies so they become somewhat inured to it but in real life, it's no joke.
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Pellius, curious to know, did you ever serve in the military? Desert storm? I assume you were too young for Nam
Answered that question from chickenfried.
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Either you think something had to be done (and if you believe that you agree with every single expert in economy on the planet)
If you don't believe that, then you automatically put yourself and your opinion above every single expert in economy on the planet, and to do this you have to a moron.
So think about that for a second, chances are you realize you are a moron.
Of course, we had to do something. The debate here, like all things in life, is a matter of degrees. The constant balancing of freedom and safety.
You still haven't answered my question, why is that? I answer yours seriously and sincerely.
How do you make a living? Do you still have a job and income coming in and if so, what is the source of that income? What do you say to people who live paycheck to paycheck and have a family to support?
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he only goes to war on bums in his neighbourhood
You have no idea. What we do know is that you are by nature a complete coward and wouldn't stand up for anything.
I heard that you deleted your Facebook account. LOL. What are you hiding? What are you afraid of? Who are you afraid of, Grannyface? You're like a frightened little boy. Worried about me in real life. I'm so deep in your head you can't stand it.
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Of course, we had to do something. The debate here, like all things in life, is a matter of degrees. The constant balancing of freedom and safety.
You still haven't answered my question, why is that? I answer yours seriously and sincerely.
How do you make a living? Do you still have a job and income coming in and if so, what is the source of that income? What do you say to people who live paycheck to paycheck and have a family to support?
Well we mostly been talking about people getting sick from the virus etc, but yes, the economic side is a nightmare when you start thinking about it and the longer time goes, the worse it's going to get. And that too will have health consequences, unemployment, more depression, people will drink more etc.
I'm not suggesting that's a small thing by anymeans, quite the opposite.
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You have no idea. What we do know is that you are by nature a complete coward and wouldn't stand up for anything.
I heard that you deleted your Facebook account. LOL. What are you hiding? What are you afraid of? Who are you afraid of, Grannyface? You're like a frightened little boy. Worried about me in real life. I'm so deep in your head you can't stand it.
You didnt hear it, you went looking at my pictures you little homo you..
I dont worry about you, I never even give you a second thought, I post the odd bit of shit on here and you respond with
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To be fair you do that with everyone, I would say that everyone owns your mind, but I dont think you have one..
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You didnt hear it, you went looking at my pictures you little homo you..
I dont worry about you, I never even give you a second thought, I post the odd bit of shit on here and you respond with
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To be fair you do that with everyone, I would say that everyone owns your mind, but I dont think you have one..
No, I've never looked up anybody's social media. I'm not interested in anybody's personal lives least of all you. You know very well who told me.
And, once again you lie, you think a lot about me. I occupy every facet of your mind. I ignore you and only respond when you come after me. And, yes, I do that with everyone. I don't start shit unless they come at me first the only exception is with Prime. Do an experiment. End it here. Don't ever address me directly or indirectly and see how much I care about you. You won't hear a peep from me because I truly don't give you a second thought unless you rear your ugly Grannyface to me. See it you can do that. Then that will prove how if you really "don't give me a second thought" or care what I think or write. That applies to everybody except Prime who just stinks up this board with his posts. Don't start shit with me and you won't hear from me. See if you can really ignore me if your claim that you care little about me is true. "Prove your beliefs by your behavior" as you so claim.
It can end right here with this post if you really want it to.
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I wasn't putting much stock in Americans fighting back based on my local communities Facebook page. Hysterical, tattle tailing, etc. It was pretty embarrassing and I won't look at my community the same again after this. However, we are making national news (MI) with the beginnings of some form of "protest"/illogicalness of Whitmer's latest edicts and there seem to be a lot more like minds then what I anticipated so I haven't completely thrown in the towel but also not getting my hopes up too much.
Full scale civil war you would have to hope that some military would take our side and not the governments.
Meanwhile, today in Michigan...for the record militias are constitutionally legal. Che and Abraham laughed
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Pellius, this happened in your back yard. Two people flew into HI and were jailed for going to the grocery store.
I mean granted, they don't appear to be too bright(one looks like Beavis and the other looks like Pauly Shore, haha) but for god's sake - they probably just needed to go to the store.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/04/11/hawaii-news/911-report/couple-reminded-twice-later-arrested-on-kauai-for-violating-14-day-quarantine/
and in another Dem ran state...anyone else sees a pattern?
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[color=navy]The governments at all levels have to be seen doing something to protect the health of everyone. Nothing much was done at first then too much done after the horses had bolted.
In Sydney we had a cruise ship dock and people got off and went all over Australia and many people got the virus through a few people on board.
Now cruise ships are prevented from docking in Australia except to pick up fuel and supplies. People arriving here have to stay in a hotel for 2 weeks. If they go out and are caught
they get a huge fine.
In retrospect why didn't they intercept anyone coming from China or other countries that had widespread infections? I recall that Trump wasn't too concerned when the news first
came out. Now everyone is shitting themselves trying to do something.[/color]
Yeah, if it was a real fucking pandemic...
Covid-19 has killed .0000069% of Americans to date.
Outside of New York City, it has killed .0000039% of Americans.
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Yeah, if it was a real fucking pandemic...
It is a real pandemic , you fucking retard .
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It is a real pandemic , you fucking retard .
Covid-19 has killed .0000069% of Americans to date.
Outside of New York City, it has killed .0000039% of Americans
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Covid-19 has killed .0000069% of Americans to date.
Outside of New York City, it has killed .0000039% of Americans
Do you even know the definition of the word ''pandemic''
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Do you even know the definition of the word ''pandemic''
Yeah it's a pandemic a weak ass one.... Fucking flu pandemic that the whole worlds been shit down over....
Kills like 0.1% of people who get it. And don't bring up the cooked 3% stats, they're bullshit and will be revised way down.
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Do you even know the definition of the word ''pandemic''
Yeah, and if you want to technical, the world sees one every year that dwarfs this...it’s called “influenza”
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Yeah, and if you want to technical, the world sees one every year that dwarfs this...it’s called “influenza”
Do you still believe and approve of Dr Fauci? You were praising him not too long ago
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Do you still believe and approve of Dr Fauci? You were praising him not too long ago
“Praising him”? Here’s how I see Fouci and Birx. They’re caught between a rock and a hard place. The guy has served 6 Presidents and how many pandemics? This guy and Birx are strictly science...if the science isn’t there (such as he claims the Hydroxychloroquine) and although we might disagree and know that it works, he wants the science to back it up as far as the drug for C19. If the science isn’t there, he’s not going to risk it BUT, he does leave it up the the discretion of Individual doctors and their patients but he’s not going to personally endorse it.
As far as the models, that’s NOT an exact science and he’s been way off but I don’t see him trying to undermine the system
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Yeah, if it was a real fucking pandemic...
Covid-19 has killed .0000069% of Americans to date.
Outside of New York City, it has killed .0000039% of Americans.
I want to like you and outside of politics, probably do. But you are just being willfully ignorant, bordering on stupid.
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Yeah, and if you want to technical, the world sees one every year that dwarfs this...it’s called “influenza”
Coach, you are getting dumber by the second , seasonal flu it is not a pandemic flu .
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Got my 'Deceleration of Citizen's Movement in Exceptional Cases Form' today which includes reasons like going to a pharmacy or a shop for essential supplies. Need to sign it and carry national ID.
If not a citizen, don't know what they will do.
No 'national ID' in Australia , they try to introduce that thing 2-3 X , but people told the government to FO ;)
also you can drive without carrying DL :D, if you screw up cops will ID you anyway...........
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Meanwhile, today in Michigan...for the record militias are constitutionally legal.
Nice news Coach !.
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Covid-19 has killed .0000069% of Americans to date.
Outside of New York City, it has killed .0000039% of Americans
I was in local supermarket 2 h ago & everything looks 95% normal , so !.
A few people in masks & choice of hands sanitizers, no security !.
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I was in local supermarket 2 h ago & everything looks 95% normal , so !.
A few people in masks & choice of hands sanitizers, no security !.
Same here. There were some with masks and gloves but most were not. Some stores are making it mandatory to wear masks in the stores...like its really going to help
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Same here. There were some with masks and gloves but most were not. Some stores are making it mandatory to wear masks in the stores...like its really going to help
Think I’ll go into mine wearing Scuba gear that should please them & Keep Them & Me Safe.
FFS - Enough of China Virus Nonsense
I’ve had it with all this Bollocks.
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Think I’ll go into mine wearing Scuba gear that should please them & Keep Them & Me Safe.
FFS - Enough of China Virus Nonsense
I’ve had it with all this Bollocks.
I love hearing this kind of talk. The cowardly sheeple underestimate the resolve of many freedom-loving people out there. Most don't want trouble and are law-abiding citizens but many will not stand to be pushed around.
Thousands in Michigan wearing MAGA hats stormed the capital protested the unreasonable restrictions. Even more importantly, and ominously, Sheriffs from four different counties will defy the governor's orders and not strictly enforce her impose restrictions. There are more to come.
So those of you that cower in fear and blindly follow any government directives don't think that everybody is like you. Push some far enough and they will fight back.