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Enough is enough with the liberal Newsom - he is destroying small business and going to make California's deficit grow to 55 BILLION DOLLAR loss next year with his antics. But hey, it os ok to release the felony inmates from the jails who steal, are child molesters and and hurt people, and arrest small business owners. California is seriously messed up.
From Gavin Louis, owner of Metroflex Gym Oceanside
Today I got arrested for having my gym open in Oceanside CA and refusing to close it down. This is an affront to our constitutional rights and a complete throwing in the garbage of police oaths... This is a war on small businesses... the arrest was personally ordered by Mayor Peter Weiss and LT. DOYLE of the OPD. The last time we had a war on this we won.... 1776
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/oceanside-gym-owner-cited-for-refusing-to-close-business-after-reopening/509-8fc50180-a7ec-40d6-9b50-5c1eb7ab2b05
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To complain
Oceanside Police PDWebMail@oceansideca.org, Chief's Office (760) 435-4450...
Peter Weiss - Mayor of Oceanside - pweiss@ci.oceanside.ca.us
Let the mayor know he needs to take a stand.
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Has it come to this - small business vs. liberals - this crap needs to stop in the USA.
This is the letter that Gavin Louis, owner of Metrolflex Oceanside, just sent our Chief of Police, Mayor and City Attorney
Re: OPPOSITION TO OPD INTENT TO ENFORCE PUBLIC HEALTH ORDER
May 9, 2020
Dear Gentlemen,
As I write this letter, I am confused, disappointed and extremely upset. There is complete chaos as everyone tries to figure out how to respond to the various vague and ambiguous modifications to already vague and ambiguous public health orders. In the meantime, my business and survival hang in the balance. This is inexcusable. I opened on Friday after the focus was changed from “essential” and “non essential” to “high risk” and “low risk”. Because my business is undeniably a “low risk” business, I opened on Friday subject to the operating guidelines set forth by the state and county.
Today, I received a letter from councilmember Rodriguez advising all businesses to open subject to social distancing guidelines and indicating that the Chief of Police favored a policy of educating rather than issuing citations. Hours later, I received an email from Mayor Weiss indicating that Councilmember Rodriguez was not authorized to speak on behalf of the city, but rather offered a “personal opinion” concerning business reopening. The Mayor’s letter did not address any of the abundant uncertainties of the current “orders”, but merely referred to the state and county orders. Making matters even more muddled, I received a call from OPD moments ago advising that it was Captain Marchand’s opinion that Gyms were not permitted and on that basis would be issued citations if open.
This situation is absolutely unacceptable and unconscionable. My only purpose for opening is to survive and to keep my family and staff off of welfare. For this effort, I am rewarded with absolute chaos from city leaders and threats from OPD of criminal sanctions? I have worked my tail off and sacrificed blood, sweat and tears for this gym. I have dedicated my life to improving the health and fitness of my members. To be treated this way turns my stomach.
Please know that I WILL be opening my gym tomorrow morning (May 10, 2020) at 8:00 A.M. I will be doing so in accordance with the guidelines issued by the state and county public health officials. My business is undeniably a “low risk” business. To date, not a single case of COVID 19 in the United States is known to have come from a gym or workout facility. Furthermore, the CDC has confirmed that the COVID 19 virus is NOT transmitted by means of sweat or perspiration. There is absolutely no scientific basis for deeming a gym a “high risk” business. Accordingly, I am entitled to open my business at this time, subject to strict enforcement of the applicable public health orders concerning re-opening of businesses.
The various orders that Captain Marchand has threatened to enforce by issuing citations are undeniably void for vagueness. The manifest confusion displayed by absolutely all parties involved is ample evidence that the orders are beyond vague and therefore unenforceable. As you know, a statute or order may be so vague or so threatening to constitutionally protected activity that it can be pronounced wholly unconstitutional. The Supreme Court held in Papachristou v. City of Jacksonville 405 U 156 (1972) that a statute criminalizing loitering was unconstitutional because of the following:
1. It failed to give proper notice
2. Did not require specific intent to violate the ordinance
3. The ordinance encouraged and permitted arbitrary enforcement
4. It criminalized activities that by modern standards are normally innocent
ALL of the aforementioned defects in the Papachristou case are present here. We have had several officers who
have come by in the past two days and have indicated that as long as we comply with social distancing, we are fine. Now, Captain Marchand has indicated that he is going to direct his officers to issue citations. That is a perfect example of arbitrary enforcement. These vague ordinances are curtailing business activities that are obviously innocent and permitted.
Aside from the obvious “void for vagueness” defects of the current orders, it is absolutely immoral for any law enforcement agency to criminalize the actions of a business owner who is merely trying to survive and who is, as I am , complying with ALL re-opening guidelines. I implore you to watch this short youtube video of Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco addressing the board of supervisors at
In refusing to issue citations to those who are working, the Sheriff rationalizes that it is absurd to release thousands of convicted criminals from the jails because of COVID 19 so that he can them criminalize the actions of law abiding business owners that are merely trying to survive and to support their families. How did we get to the point where Sheriff Bianco is a hero for standing up for law abiding members of the community who are only trying to survive?
I am not interested in making a political statement or in becoming a beacon for a cause. I am literally being suffocated by these onerous and vague regulations. I need help. I do not need more threats and chaos. I am not alone. There are hundreds of us in Oceanside that are similarly situated. It seems that we have a couple of choices at this point. You can issue threats and use OPD and its good members to finish me off while I am trying to survive. This option will certainly invite a mountain of litigation from business owners that suffer from such a policy. Or, we can all work together and cooperate to make sure that the public health is given the highest priority. I will do my part to make certain that reopening guidelines are strictly followed in my gym.
Gentlemen, I have given my life for this business. I am literally on my last breath. Please, stop threatening me and help me.
Sincerely,
LOUIS G. URIDEL
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People that choose to open their businesses should hire armed personal security to keep trespassing "peace" officers away. ;)
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To complain
Oceanside Police PDWebMail@oceansideca.org, Chief's Office (760) 435-4450...
Peter Weiss - Mayor of Oceanside - pweiss@ci.oceanside.ca.us
Let the mayor know he needs to take a stand.
I tweeted them earlier...🤷♂️
Sucks because I have friends in the military that train there including one client
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The 2nd gym rebellion story from the 760. (https://i.postimg.cc/qM5JtMbv/braveheart-4222.gif)
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I hope he sues and I hope he wins.
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Enough is enough with the liberal Newsom - he is destroying small business and going to make California's deficit grow to 55 BILLION DOLLAR loss next year with his antics. But hey, it os ok to release the felony inmates from the jails who steal, are child molesters and and hurt people, and arrest small business owners. California is seriously messed up.
From Gavin Louis, owner of Metroflex Gym Oceanside
Today I got arrested for having my gym open in Oceanside CA and refusing to close it down. This is an affront to our constitutional rights and a complete throwing in the garbage of police oaths... This is a war on small businesses... the arrest was personally ordered by Mayor Peter Weiss and LT. DOYLE of the OPD. The last time we had a war on this we won.... 1776
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/oceanside-gym-owner-cited-for-refusing-to-close-business-after-reopening/509-8fc50180-a7ec-40d6-9b50-5c1eb7ab2b05
Gavin Lewis knew by opening the gym he was breaking the law and would be arrested. He staged a protest and the the Mayor decided to use it to set an example. Will Lewis' arrest discourage others from staging protests? Probably not.
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Gavin Lewis knew by opening the gym he was breaking the law and would be arrested. He staged a protest and the the Mayor decided to use it to set an example. Will Lewis' arrest discourage others from staging protests? Probably not.
Yeah, there were probably sodomy laws on the books too but that didn't stop "some people".
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I don't follow the US situation much so I'm genuinely asking - does anybody here actually think that opening everything up with 20k cases a day still raging, isn't going to end in tears?
I can totally understand why you'd be for it - your country sucks balls. It might be one of the greatest to visit and I'd love to live there in times of prosperity but it fucks its citizens so hard when they can't stay on the hamster wheel, it might be the worst in the world, right now.
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Yeah, there were probably sodomy laws on the books too but that didn't stop "some people".
What is your point? Anytime you break the law, if caught, you might be arrested. It is the risk you take.
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Absolutely ridiculous.
This “pandemic” is a bust.
Protect the vulnerable, quarantine the sick ... and allow folks to earn a living and live their lives.
Sooner or later the mass population is gonna have to face what’s out there. Isolating the populations isn’t a viable long-term option.
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The libs want small businesses to fail. The more people on the dole the better.
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The libs want small businesses to fail. The more people on the dole the better.
This is only happening in Dem ran states. They’re keeping the economies closed or at least slowing the process because it’s an election year. By doing this they’ll turn it around and blame Trump
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This is only happening in Dem ran states. They’re keeping the economies closed or at least slowing the process because it’s an election year. By doing this they’ll turn it around and blame Trump
That's sad, that anyone would consciously mess with people to this degree just to get votes, but you're probably right. What I think complicates the matter now is the fact that it would be hard to blame Trump for the economic damage caused by quarantine policies that were obviously disproportionately liberal in nature.
But if Trump ends lock down / social distancing measures and a very high number of people get sick, he can be blamed.
I suspect that the death counts are not being counted accurately, and that people who die WITH the coronavirus are being counted as being dying OF the coronavirus.
It seems like no matter what happens, there will be something done politically here.
Here in Canada, the only people being tested are those with symptoms. So the actual number of people with the virus is likely much higher than the official numbers stated.
For example, I think I got the virus, starting February 20th, and ending March 20th. But I can't prove that. So I would not be counted in the statistics.
I would be curious to see how this plays out.
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Reply back from the mayor
From: Peter Weiss <PWeiss@oceansideca.org>
To: 'Ron Avidan' <ron@Getbig.com>
Subject: RE: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
We had asked the County to allow all businesses that can maintain sanitation protocols to be allowed to open The County Order which was updated, still does not allow that.
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There is a 'new' San Diego order, effective May 10th now... here is a copy - still uses the old formula of 'non-essential' etc etc
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The only good politician is a DEAD politician
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I don't follow the US situation much so I'm genuinely asking - does anybody here actually think that opening everything up with 20k cases a day still raging, isn't going to end in tears?
I can totally understand why you'd be for it - your country sucks balls. It might be one of the greatest to visit and I'd love to live there in times of prosperity but it fucks its citizens so hard when they can't stay on the hamster wheel, it might be the worst in the world, right now.
It's precisely because they have broken their asses in an unforgiving environment to earn what little they have that they're not keen to lose it all to New Plague Rules, written and enforced by the unaffected, and kept in place despite a shortfall of 10 million predicted corpses in the streets. They're feeling lied to and fucked over.
If they had lived in a luckier country, atop a mountain of mineral wealth, where neither effort nor competence are needed to live the good life, they would probably be inclined to kneejerk compliance, unthinking optimism, and an abiding confidence in their somehow justified easy existence.
I find it telling that the yankee blue collars take a grist for the mill "get 'er done" attitude, and would be embarrassed to admit to laziness, while the Australians proudly declare that "she'll be 'right" and gain their layabout mates' approval for it.
Yes, the US system is entirely too meat grinder but most Aussies under the age of 70 need a good kick up the ass.
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eventually people are going to start rebelling , there is only a limited amount of time people can handle these extreme measures . . .
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I don't follow the US situation much so I'm genuinely asking - does anybody here actually think that opening everything up with 20k cases a day still raging, isn't going to end in tears?
I can totally understand why you'd be for it - your country sucks balls. It might be one of the greatest to visit and I'd love to live there in times of prosperity but it fucks its citizens so hard when they can't stay on the hamster wheel, it might be the worst in the world, right now.
Whatever country you live in - go on Wikipedia and check how the people of your country are doing in the USA.
For example, we always hear about how great the "Scandinavian Model" is - yet as soon as they started importing Muslims, and the demographic profile of those countries started to look more like that of the USA, the country started getting similar results.
If you compare Danes in Denmark to Danes living in the USA, the results are EXACTLY THE SAME. In fact, the socioeconomic outcomes for Danes are BETTER in the USA.
The USA sucks balls because it has a massive third world population in its midst. If it was 90% White like it was pre-1965, it would be surpassing whatever country you live in. Not just in obvious military terms, but in GDP per-capita terms, or any other measure/indicator of prosperity.
Again, the USA only "sucks" because it has so much "diversity", which is supposed to apparently help White countries get "better".
Because yeah, importing people from the worst countries of the world into the best [Whitest] countries in the world is somehow a "strength". ::)
Again - go look at the USA and make an apples-to-apples comparison with only the Caucasian population, and then let me know how much the USA "sucks balls".
Obviously any country that imports third world people is going to eventually turn to shit. Whatever country you live in is no exception, rocket.
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lol imagine living in commiefornia and then acting surprised when something like this happens.
y'all made your bed now lie in it.
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I don't follow the US situation much so I'm genuinely asking - does anybody here actually think that opening everything up with 20k cases a day still raging, isn't going to end in tears?
I can totally understand why you'd be for it - your country sucks balls. It might be one of the greatest to visit and I'd love to live there in times of prosperity but it fucks its citizens so hard when they can't stay on the hamster wheel, it might be the worst in the world, right now.
The US government is giving everyone $ 1200 a month.
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lol imagine living in commiefornia and then acting surprised when something like this happens.
y'all made your bed now lie in it.
For many of us it's not so much we made the bed but rather that the libtards like Gov. Screwsum shit in it. A lot.
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The US government is giving everyone $ 1200 a month.
But only for one month. :D
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I left SD and Commiefornia in 2009... never looked back.
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Making the news, and check out Christopher Rodriguez, an Oceanside city councilmen, who said "“I wrote a letter from the conviction of my heart and all those who share in that same conviction… if there are consequences I will be right there with them the entire way,” said Rodriguez"
https://www.kusi.com/oceanside-gym-owner-arrested-for-violating-county-public-health-order/?fbclid=IwAR3mwm-f-rzYpKmwD6qhv95ge_zCRTiUWI8hZj1Dg9Etiz2CpM94CuiHYRg
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Enough is enough with the liberal Newsom - he is destroying small business and going to make California's deficit grow to 55 BILLION DOLLAR loss next year with his antics. But hey, it os ok to release the felony inmates from the jails who steal, are child molesters and and hurt people, and arrest small business owners. California is seriously messed up.
From Gavin Louis, owner of Metroflex Gym Oceanside
Today I got arrested for having my gym open in Oceanside CA and refusing to close it down. This is an affront to our constitutional rights and a complete throwing in the garbage of police oaths... This is a war on small businesses... the arrest was personally ordered by Mayor Peter Weiss and LT. DOYLE of the OPD. The last time we had a war on this we won.... 1776
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/oceanside-gym-owner-cited-for-refusing-to-close-business-after-reopening/509-8fc50180-a7ec-40d6-9b50-5c1eb7ab2b05
At first I didn't recognize the name Gavin Louis. That's Lou (Gavin) Uridel. He's also a lawyer.
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https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-c-and-c-restaurant-defies-state-order-reopens-to-packed-crowds-204932662.html (https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-c-and-c-restaurant-defies-state-order-reopens-to-packed-crowds-204932662.html)
Nothing stopping hicks in Colorado, not even 50.
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The libs want small businesses to fail. The more people on the dole the better.
Absurd comment.
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The US government is giving everyone $ 1200 a month.
Not exactly. Only individuals whose annual adjusted gross income is less than $75,000.
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Not exactly. Only individuals whose annual adjusted gross income is less than $75,000.
So far, they only get a 1 time payment of $1200 but apparently $2000 a month for at least 6 months is being proposed.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/terinaallen/2020/04/19/the-2000-vs-the-1200-stimulus-check-four-key-payment-differences/#645b255276bb (https://www.forbes.com/sites/terinaallen/2020/04/19/the-2000-vs-the-1200-stimulus-check-four-key-payment-differences/#645b255276bb)
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So far, they only get a 1 time payment of $1200 but apparently $2000 a month for at least 6 months is being proposed.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/terinaallen/2020/04/19/the-2000-vs-the-1200-stimulus-check-four-key-payment-differences/#645b255276bb (https://www.forbes.com/sites/terinaallen/2020/04/19/the-2000-vs-the-1200-stimulus-check-four-key-payment-differences/#645b255276bb)
You are right in saying 'they' and not everyone is getting $1,200 or possibly $12,000 total in the next 6 months.
The Forbes article you cited reads like an idiot's pipe dream. Maybe I am wrong and I'll be $12,000 richer at the end of the next 6 months. Right now, I'd be happy to the $800. stimulus check which was approved promised me.
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You are right in saying 'they' and not everyone is getting $1,200 or possibly $12,000 total in the next 6 months.
No one knows it better than those not getting checks. ;)
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Seems like individual business owners that want to not abide by the Governor’s Order should first hire a lawyer and craft an argument. But I love how some of these owners seem to know the laws and powers given to government agencies. Lol
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No one knows it better than those not getting checks. ;)
Are you saying that because I've not see one penny of this money, I'm somewhat skeptical? Well, you are right, I am.
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Are you saying that because I've not see one penny of this money, I'm somewhat skeptical? Well, you are right, I am.
I'm saying you're preaching to the choir.
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I'm saying you're preaching to the choir.
Oh. :-[
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Absurd comment.
Not really. And you did already know that. Why don't you quote the Bible some more. The Queeron is more your tome.
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So far, they only get a 1 time payment of $1200 but apparently $2000 a month for at least 6 months is being proposed.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/terinaallen/2020/04/19/the-2000-vs-the-1200-stimulus-check-four-key-payment-differences/#645b255276bb (https://www.forbes.com/sites/terinaallen/2020/04/19/the-2000-vs-the-1200-stimulus-check-four-key-payment-differences/#645b255276bb)
Cha-ching! 💵💴
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lol imagine living in commiefornia and then acting surprised when something like this happens.
y'all made your bed now lie in it.
I have lived in the bay area my entire life. What an idiotic thing to say. Not all of us that live here are far leftists asshole.
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Absurd comment.
Precisely whom do the poor vote for? Republicans? Get a clue. Of course the left wants people poor as fuck, dependancy is the greatest form of control.
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eventually people are going to start rebelling , there is only a limited amount of time people can handle these extreme measures . . .
They have no constitution right to keep you from work or your house of worship. The constitution was written to control government and not to control the people. All these executive order laws from mayors and governors is completely out of hand. The only one that should have that power is the President. Laws on the fly is tyranny from hundreds of politicians. I'm hoping for Trump to say in a nationalized press conference to ignore the stay at home orders. Non violent civil disobedience can't be controlled by government.
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The guy was Louis Uridel from the old days, go figure -
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You are right in saying 'they' and not everyone is getting $1,200 or possibly $12,000 total in the next 6 months.
The Forbes article you cited reads like an idiot's pipe dream. Maybe I am wrong and I'll be $12,000 richer at the end of the next 6 months. Right now, I'd be happy to the $800. stimulus check which was approved promised me.
The handouts will end soon, mark my words.
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Precisely whom do the poor vote for? Republicans? Get a clue. Of course the left wants people poor as fuck, dependancy is the greatest form of control.
We lefties will take all the votes we can get without regard to whether folks are rich or poor. FYI, Republican's also accept anyone's vote regardless of financial status.
Isn't it a bit curious that several red states have a lower median average income?
There are some patterns among the states with the lowest median incomes in the country: Many are clustered in Appalachia, the South, and the Midwest.
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Isn't it a bit curious that several red states have a lower median average income?
More than curious. It's a complete reversal of what was. If the Democrats would ease off with the identity politics and return to tempering Big Business's influence in favor of the workers, that map would change color in a hurry.
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The guy was Louis Uridel from the old days, go figure -
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Thebigsexy
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We lefties will take all the votes we can get without regard to whether folks are rich or poor. FYI, Republican's also accept anyone's vote regardless of financial status.
Isn't it a bit curious that several red states have a lower median average income?
There are some patterns among the states with the lowest median incomes in the country: Many are clustered in Appalachia, the South, and the Midwest.
Yes, but the cost of living is much lower. Businesses in the coastal states have to pay their employees much more or the employees couldn't pay their rent/mortgage. Because of these higher wages there are more taxes collected as well as federal income tax is uniform across the nation.
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The guy was Louis Uridel from the old days, go figure -
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Brutal whiteboy dreadlocks
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Where I stay, looks like people will have to 'book an appointment' to go to gym and not longer for an hour. Masks will have to be worn and temperature will be taken at entrance and 'strict social distancing' will be enforced in the gym.
If this is happens, I probably won't continue my membership.
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any word when 24 hr fitness will reopen in california?
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Yes, but the cost of living is much lower. Businesses in the coastal states have to pay their employees much more or the employees couldn't pay their rent/mortgage. Because of these higher wages there are more taxes collected as well as federal income tax is uniform across the nation.
You make a couple of good points, although the issue wasn't about cost-of-living; it was about whether it is the democratic or republican voters who have the higher incomes.
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From the rally today
“You can’t have COURAGE without FEAR, because if you act without fear then there was never anything to be courageous about.......
After this rally, I’M OPENING MY GYM!”
-Louis Uridel
Metroflex is one of 175 small businesses in Oceanside who decided to defy the “stay at home order” and open their business today! 🤙🏻
https://www.facebook.com/coachmattallen/videos/10222138093391169/UzpfSTE1MjgzMjAyODM6MTAyMjIxMzgwOTY4NzEyNTY/
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You make a couple of good points, although the issue wasn't about cost-of-living; it was about whether it is the democratic or republican voters who have the higher incomes.
What do you think?
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What do you think?
Honestly. I haven't given it a lot of thought. But since you asked, at least one republican considers himself well fixed. You know, the same one who votes by mail while arguing against it.
Lots of people and organizations predict how the vote will turn out. After the failure of predictions in 2016 that indicated Clinton would win the election, I'm not sure what they say or think has any bearing on the outcome of an election.
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The guy was Louis Uridel from the old days, go figure -
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Loved him in Counting Crows
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After arrest, gym owner defies California again to reopen
OCEANSIDE, Calif. (AP) — About a dozen weightlifters wearing face coverings did sets Thursday in front of mirrors at a Southern California gym that was reopened by the owner despite his arrest last weekend for violating local coronavirus health orders that closed gyms.
Lou Uridel — wearing a red, white and blue mask with a stars-and-stripes pattern and the words “justice for all” emblazoned across it — vowed to keep the doors open at Metroflex Gym in the coastal city of Oceanside, north of San Diego.
But he warned his customers they might be handcuffed and hauled off like he was on Sunday.
“There’s some members who kind of shy away from that and there’s some members who say, you know what, if they’re going to take me away in handcuffs for working out, then they can go ahead and do it," Uridel said.
Uridel may be the first business owner arrested in California for violating health orders by reopening, although a growing number are doing that.
Tesla CEO Elon Musk reopened his plant in defiance of Alameda County health rules and tweeted Monday he was prepared to be arrested. He wasn't and won praise from President Donald Trump.
Musk and local officials eventually reached an agreement to allow vehicle production to resume next week.
Authorities wary of a public backlash have preferred to use warnings to get local businesses to comply. Forcing one to shut its doors and citing the owner is rare, and arrests are considered a last resort.
Last week in neighboring Riverside County, Sheriff Chad Bianco told supervisors he wouldn't enforce local health orders that make criminals out of otherwise law-abiding business owners and other residents who violate the restrictions.
The state is allowing some counties with a low infection rate to give the greenlight to certain businesses to reopen more quickly than others. But gyms are not being allowed to reopen anywhere because they are considered a high-risk business due to people being indoors, sharing equipment and breathing hard as they exercise.
Coughing, sneezing and even talking are ways the virus is spread through tiny water droplets.
Bonnie Stauffer, spokeswoman for the Oceanside Police Department, said Uridel will be cited for every day the gym is open. Police were working with the San Diego County district attorney’s office to review their options, she said.
“I don’t know what other enforcement can be done at this point,” she said.
The maximum fine for breaking a public health law in California is $1,000 or up to 90 days in jail for each day a violation occurs.
Uridel was held by police for only about an hour Sunday before being released. He was charged with a misdemeanor and will be arraigned in 90 days, though the arrest is under review, said Tanya Sierra, spokeswoman for the San Diego County district attorney's office.
With the support of at least one city councilman, Uridel said he hopes prosecutors will drop the case. The Texas Supreme Court earlier this month ordered the release of Dallas hair salon owner Shelly Luther, who was jailed after she continued to operate her business despite shutdown orders.
Uridel said he had no choice about reopening the gym.
“We lost a third of our membership that took us a year and a half to get,” Uridel said. “If we waited, with the bills mounting, we weren’t going to be able to recover.”
Uridel said he has taken every precaution so his customers feel safe.
Large handwritten signs warn people no one is allowed in if they are coughing or show other symptoms, and that everyone must sign a waiver declaring they are not ill. It says all rules will be enforced, including no gym bags or showering at the gym, and members must wear masks and shirts at all times.
Everyone must maintain 6 feet (1.8 meters) of space between each other, wipe down equipment after each use, and wash their hands before entering the gym and before leaving it.
Uridel said he also closes the gym every 90 minutes for cleaning and sanitizing.
Uridel first opened last Friday and then after his arrest was closed until Wednesday. He said he has had about 120 people come in daily, staggered over a 12-hour period.
Police dropped by Thursday when about a dozen masked men spaced 6 feet apart were lifting weights in the gym, situated at the back of a strip mall cordoned off by police tape to signal that businesses were supposed to be closed. The officers spoke to Uridel about his safety measures and then left. He was not cited.
Joseph Noland, 40, said he returned to the gym as soon as he got word it had reopened. The stay-at-home dad said it's been vital to relieve stress, especially during the virus outbreak. And he feels safe at the gym.
“When you walk into the gym, everyone is washing their hands, which is something you never see at the grocery store," Noland said. “This place is constantly being cleaned."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/after-arrest-gym-owner-defies-california-again-to-reopen/ar-BB145EqW?pfr=1
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Where I stay, looks like people will have to 'book an appointment' to go to gym and not longer for an hour. Masks will have to be worn and temperature will be taken at entrance and 'strict social distancing' will be enforced in the gym.
If this is happens, I probably won't continue my membership.
I'm not sure how things will shake out in NH but so far masks don't seem to be part of the equation. I was lucky to load up on some equipment before the rush started so I'm with you if temperatures, appointments etc are part of the reopening rules.
I'm friends with a guy who sells top of the line fitness equipment. He's said a lot of people are building out home gyms and don't plan on going back to commercial gyms. I am shocked that they, as a business entity like restaurants, haven't banded together and been more vocal about this overall.
Props to Louis for standing up to the communism in CA.
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Injustice at its best. Lou Uridel arrested and fined for opening his gym, while Elon Musk and others get nothing. Meanwhile, gyms are opening in Arizona, Texas, Florida, Ohio and other states while California and its dictator governor (who is destroying the state with 55 BILLION dollars in deficits or more) continues to not let people and business open. Like we have said, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Let places open.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/05/15/after-arrest-gym-owner-defies-california-again-to-reopen/
OCEANSIDE — About a dozen weightlifters wearing face coverings did sets Thursday in front of mirrors at a Southern California gym that was reopened by the owner despite his arrest last weekend for violating local coronavirus health orders that closed gyms. Lou Uridel — wearing a red, white and blue mask with a stars-and-stripes pattern and the words “justice for all” emblazoned across it — vowed to keep the doors open at Metroflex Gym in the coastal city of Oceanside, north of San Diego. But he warned his customers they might be handcuffed and hauled off like he was on Sunday.
“There’s some members who kind of shy away from that and there’s some members who say, you know what, if they’re going to take me away in handcuffs for working out, then they can go ahead and do it,” Uridel said. Uridel may be the first business owner arrested in California for violating health orders by reopening, although a growing number are doing that.
Tesla CEO Elon Musk reopened his plant in defiance of Alameda County health rules and tweeted Monday he was prepared to be arrested. He wasn’t and won praise from President Donald Trump. Musk and local officials eventually reached an agreement to allow vehicle production to resume next week. Authorities wary of a public backlash have preferred to use warnings to get local businesses to comply. Forcing one to shut its doors and citing the owner is rare, and arrests are considered a last resort.
Last week in neighboring Riverside County, Sheriff Chad Bianco told supervisors he wouldn’t enforce local health orders that make criminals out of otherwise law-abiding business owners and other residents who violate the restrictions. The state is allowing some counties with a low infection rate to give the greenlight to certain businesses to reopen more quickly than others. But gyms are not being allowed to reopen anywhere because they are considered a high-risk business due to people being indoors, sharing equipment and breathing hard as they exercise.
Coughing, sneezing and even talking are ways the virus is spread through tiny water droplets. Bonnie Stauffer, spokeswoman for the Oceanside Police Department, said Uridel will be cited for every day the gym is open. Police were working with the San Diego County district attorney’s office to review their options, she said. “I don’t know what other enforcement can be done at this point,” she said. The maximum fine for breaking a public health law in California is $1,000 or up to 90 days in jail for each day a violation occurs.
Uridel was held by police for only about an hour Sunday before being released. He was charged with a misdemeanor and will be arraigned in 90 days, though the arrest is under review, said Tanya Sierra, spokeswoman for the San Diego County district attorney’s office. With the support of at least one city councilman, Uridel said he hopes prosecutors will drop the case. The Texas Supreme Court earlier this month ordered the release of Dallas hair salon owner Shelly Luther, who was jailed after she continued to operate her business despite shutdown orders.
Uridel said he had no choice about reopening the gym. “We lost a third of our membership that took us a year and a half to get,” Uridel said. “If we waited, with the bills mounting, we weren’t going to be able to recover.” Uridel said he has taken every precaution so his customers feel safe.
Large handwritten signs warn people no one is allowed in if they are coughing or show other symptoms, and that everyone must sign a waiver declaring they are not ill. It says all rules will be enforced, including no gym bags or showering at the gym, and members must wear masks and shirts at all times. Everyone must maintain 6 feet (1.8 meters) of space between each other, wipe down equipment after each use, and wash their hands before entering the gym and before leaving it. Uridel said he also closes the gym every 90 minutes for cleaning and sanitizing.
Uridel first opened last Friday and then after his arrest was closed until Wednesday. He said he has had about 120 people come in daily, staggered over a 12-hour period. Police dropped by Thursday when about a dozen masked men spaced 6 feet apart were lifting weights in the gym, situated at the back of a strip mall cordoned off by police tape to signal that businesses were supposed to be closed. The officers spoke to Uridel about his safety measures and then left. He was not cited.
Joseph Noland, 40, said he returned to the gym as soon as he got word it had reopened. The stay-at-home dad said it’s been vital to relieve stress, especially during the virus outbreak. And he feels safe at the gym. “When you walk into the gym, everyone is washing their hands, which is something you never see at the grocery store,” Noland said. “This place is constantly being cleaned.”
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America use to be the Land of the Free & Home of the Brave .............. :-\
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America use to be the Land of the Free & Home of the Brave .............. :-\
Democraps envision it as the land of the freak and the home of the slave.
FTN.
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From the Mayor of Oceanside, I hope this is true - May 22nd opening date for gyms?
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From the Mayor of Oceanside, I hope this is true - May 22nd opening date for gyms?
San Diego here I come! ;D
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President Trump has refused to limit any Constitutional rights and as it stands now, he has openly called things like stay at home "guidance and suggestion", NOT law. There is not any state government that can override the Federal Government when it comes to Constitutional Rights. Until the Federal Government restricts Constitiutional Rights, you have them protected and if people wanted, there could be a landslide of Constitutional violations brought to the Supreme Court about how Monarch-like state governers are giving orders like Kings.
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New video from Fox News
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6158091630001
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The minute- no, the very second my gym opens I will be there and I don't give a fuck about being arrested. If it happens, guess where I will be the minute I am released?
This whole covid bullshit has really opened my eyes to how little government can be trusted. Give them an inch, they take a foot, give them a foot, they take the fucking rope.
How do these crooks continually end up in positions of authority? I find it really um what's the word-terrifying? Can't America produce better politicians than what we have?
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I just want to fucking squat and deadlift I cannot even explain what I'm going through. Sick of the bullshit. I will wear a fucking mask (with lots of holes) if I have to. This is crazy, I'm sick to death of the bullshit.
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Brutal whiteboy dreadlocks
He was always a cun+ on rxmuscle.
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He was always a cun+ on rxmuscle.
Plus he is a lawyer.
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I just want to fucking squat and deadlift I cannot even explain what I'm going through. Sick of the bullshit. I will wear a fucking mask (with lots of holes) if I have to. This is crazy, I'm sick to death of the bullshit.
I wanted to speak directly to you, brother.
I read above and I can feel, through the words, your frustration and upset. These are the same emotions I feel.
This has been, by far, the longest stretch I’ve not gone to a gym since 1985.
It’s seriously challenging my equilibrium and inner peace.
My anger is intensifying day by day.
Anyway, I just wanted to respond to your post. To say, hang in there, friend.
Better days coming.
May your return be mighty.
Hail.
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The minute- no, the very second my gym opens I will be there and I don't give a fuck about being arrested. If it happens, guess where I will be the minute I am released?
This whole covid bullshit has really opened my eyes to how little government can be trusted. Give them an inch, they take a foot, give them a foot, they take the fucking rope.
How do these crooks continually end up in positions of authority? I find it really um what's the word-terrifying? Can't America produce better politicians than what we have?
If I'm caught walking in the street out of the times 6am-9am I could be arrested and have a criminal record. 21 000 people have been arrested for this and will now have a criminal record.
Also not allowed to drive after 8pm due to 'curfew'. Would also get a criminal record if stopped.
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If I'm caught walking in the street out of the times 6am-9am I could be arrested and have a criminal record. 21 000 people have been arrested for this and will now have a criminal record.
Also not allowed to drive after 8pm due to 'curfew'. Would also get a criminal record if stopped.
Where do you live? if you were arrested what would you be charged with?
There have been a number of instances of people being arrested for violating the COVID-19 quarantine. In other instances, they have been charged with misdemeanors or summons.
Many of the arrests for disobeying the quarantine that have been reported have something in common. In most of these cases, the perpetrator was also committing another crime, like shoplifting, drug charges, or gun charges.
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Where do you live? if you were arrested what would you be charged with?
There have been a number of instances of people being arrested for violating the COVID-19 quarantine. In other instances, they have been charged with misdemeanors or summons.
Many of the arrests for disobeying the quarantine that have been reported have something in common. In most of these cases, the perpetrator was also committing another crime, like shoplifting, drug charges, or gun charges.
I think he's Seth Effrikan. The charges would likely be Conspiracy to Commit Colonial Imperialism and Farming While Palefaced.
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I'm not sure how things will shake out in NH but so far masks don't seem to be part of the equation. I was lucky to load up on some equipment before the rush started so I'm with you if temperatures, appointments etc are part of the reopening rules.
I'm friends with a guy who sells top of the line fitness equipment. He's said a lot of people are building out home gyms and don't plan on going back to commercial gyms. I am shocked that they, as a business entity like restaurants, haven't banded together and been more vocal about this overall.
Props to Louis for standing up to the communism in CA.
I think the guy is right. Here in Greenville, SC Gold's Gym just closed two facilities within 8 miles of each other- and both were busy operations. A lot of people commented online that this was the final straw in paying for gym memberships. That explains why it costs over $4 a pound for plates these days - IF you can find them! Everybody is building some sort of workout room at home. In a few months the price of weights will drop as supply catches up but I don't think the rush will be on to go back to commercial gyms for a lot of people.
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I think he's Seth Effrikan. The charges would likely be Conspiracy to Commit Colonial Imperialism and Farming While Palefaced.
;D ;D ;D
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I have a small, relatively complete gym in my garage. I have a stand-alone lat pulldown machine (plate loaded), one of those all-in-one machines with a vertical bench press, lat pulldown, leg extension/curl, lower pully, peck-deck and a dip bar. I also have two stands for when I used to be able to squat and they are capable of holding at least 400 lbs. I also have a couple of saw horses from when I would work on my favorite exercise the squat and for bottom position thick-bar bench presses as I used to have a regular bench and even a seated calf machine. Got ride of those about two or so years ago.
I have a few hundred pounds of plates (standard size) and those annoying threaded dumbells and a few 6 foot bars that are also threaded. I have cable attachments for lat pulldowns, straight bar curls or tricep presssdowns and single handed curls or tricep pushdowns.
Years ago I made up some thick bar handles but no longer use them. I have ordered some of those spring loaded collars for my bars and DBs as I hate threaded and want to be able to add/subtract weight if I ever get strong enough again, LOL!
I tried training a bit yesterday. Five sets of 10 reps each for single arm DB laterals for my shoulders. Then some light bar curls and tricep pressdowns.
Worn out? Yeah... ;D
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The charges would likely be Conspiracy to Commit Colonial Imperialism and Farming While Palefaced.
The 8 million blacks with HIV-AIDS will probably die like flies if they get this virus. It's already mostly blacks dying.
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I tweeted them earlier...🤷♂️
Sucks because I have friends in the military that train there including one client
He needs to be closed. He is just taking advantage of those poor little Marines- they have gyms on base anyway. He is also selling steroids and HGH to those poor unsuspecting Marines too. He needs to be arrested. He ain't doing shit for anyone but himself.
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I tried training a bit yesterday. Five sets of 10 reps each for single arm DB laterals for my shoulders. Then some light bar curls and tricep pressdowns.
Worn out? Yeah... ;D
Getting back into it by blasting the delts and arms? a.k.a the most inportant beach ones...
Bet you do chest next and sneak the odd protein shake in here and there ;) ;D
Once a bodybuilder always a bodybuilder 8)
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Getting back into it by blasting the delts and arms? a.k.a the most inportant beach ones...
Bet you do chest next and sneak the odd protein shake in here and there ;) ;D
Once a bodybuilder always a bodybuilder 8)
Sounds like a plan, brother! Thanks! ;D
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This bug shows you the states not to live in. so predicable the Northeast and Left coast. all over taxed dumps full of douche bags!
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Monday, Monday
Monday, Monday, so good to me
Monday mornin', it was all I hoped it would be
Oh Monday mornin', Monday mornin' couldn't guarantee
That Monday evenin' you would still be here with me
Gym opening: https://www.nautilusplusoc.com
Yahoo!
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Monday, Monday
Monday, Monday, so good to me
Monday mornin', it was all I hoped it would be
Oh Monday mornin', Monday mornin' couldn't guarantee
That Monday evenin' you would still be here with me
Gym opening: https://www.nautilusplusoc.com
Yahoo!
post pics of you outside that place on mon. morning ................