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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Notomorrow on June 05, 2020, 03:44:23 PM
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I hate the Microsoft browser BING, no offense to those that like the thing, and I couldn't figure out how to turn it off and use Google so out of frustration I typed "I hate Bing" into Google search to find people like me. The top hit came back an article on "Why I ditched Google for Bing". It was not listed as an advertisement and is the default hit promoting Bing. I thought Google competed with Bing so I investigated.
I realize now that the first hit is spam I guess but it was not listed as such, and some elderly person(and me) would never know that,
https://www.wired.com/story/tried-bing-search-google-microsoft/
The article was written by Wired, which is part of Linkedin, which Bill Gates purchased,so Wired is a propaganda machine for Microsoft. Conde Nast owns Wired, and Microsoft owns Conde Nast. The chief editor of Wired.com is Nicholas Thompson, a Microsoft employee. In fact when I just typed in "Bing Search engine" in Google, the first hits were always praising Bing, despite an algorithm that is supposedly used. All of the other "objective" initial hits were by sites like zdnet, with CEO Andrew J. Brust who was Microsoft regional director. Or Medium.com with CEO Evan Williams who is director of Microsoft, Australia. All those weird little hits are Microsoft executives or related to MSFT yet are presented as legitimate articles on Bing vs. Google browser.
Microsoft essentially owns Google through a company called Alphabet Techology(GOOG). Alphabet is a "holding company", with a mysterious web of holdings, Google being one.
Sunday Pichai became CEO of Alphabet(GOOG), yet he was up for CEO of Microsoft n 2014. Satya Nadella, another Indian, is now CEO of Microsoft. This gets to the Indian connection and vaccine corruption.
Satya Nadella, India and the WHO was integral in allowing Bill Gates to do his polio vaccine testing, as well as HPV and other vaccine testing in India. Gates, the Indian Government and Saudi Prince Alwaleed essentially own the World Health Orgainization, with Gates and Alwaleed being the biggest private citizen investors in the WHO. A rare independent article said
Promising his share of $450 million of $1.2 billion to eradicate Polio, Gates took control of India’s National Technical Advisory Group on Immunization (NTAGI) which mandated up to 50 doses (Table 1) of polio vaccines through overlapping immunization programs to children before the age of five. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP) epidemic that paralyzed 490,000 children beyond expected rates between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and asked Gates and his vaccine policies to leave India. NPAFP rates dropped precipitously. The death of girls who were a part of a Human Papilloma Virus vaccine trial has raised an alarm about the nature of research in India as well as the value attached by the state to the lives of its citizens.
A trial was being conducted in Andhra Pradesh and Gujarat by the NGO PATH with support from the Indian Council of Medical Research and local health authorities. They were funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. The vaccine is supplied by two companies, Merck Sharpe & Dohme and Glaxo Smith Kline.
When the government stopped the trials, three doses had already been administered to 30,000 participants, mostly tribal girls aged between 9 and 14.
The union health minister, Ghulam Nabi Azad, has denied that the deaths have anything to do with the trials, and as things stand, there is no conclusive evidence of a causal link between the vaccine and the deaths. But the fact that the girls were a part of the trial is reason enough to warrant further investigations.
A committee has been constituted by the union government to investigate the deaths. Further action will depend on the report of the committee.
An investigation in one of the sites in AP, coordinated by the women’s health group SAMA, revealed that the trials recruited tribal girls from poor areas. These girls were malnourished. To worsen the situation, consent forms for the trial are in English which even the health care provider administering the vaccine to them may not be able to read, let alone the participants.
I am NOT claiming this is true, but you will find NO objective articles through a google search, as ANY search regarding Microsoft, Bing or vaccines about Gates will all be those bullshit sites run by someone with a connection to Microsoft, despite the "algorithm", that is supposed to be objective.
Truth is Bill Gates has ownership of nearly all articles you will read about Microsoft, both through his purchase of Linkedin and the various web companies they own. There is no chance of an independent search on Google about anything Microsoft because Google is a figurehead company owned by Alphabet(GOOG). Evan Williams, for example, who lead Microsoft Australia also "came up" with Twitter, and now Gates is a big investor in Twitter.
I was only trying to find "I hate Bing" and realized Google Search is a Microsoft puppet.
I'm sure many of you have already made these connections, but this was new to me.
Notomorrow
Yeah it's a long post so what?
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Sherlock
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Hercule Poirot
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I am going to unravel this whole thing. As for now, Google search is owned by Microsoft if you trace the ownership of Alphabet, Inc.(GOOG) who is the listed owner of Google. You cannot get objective results based on their "algorithm".
Trump and Gates have had problems in the past, like when Trump went to Bill Gate's equestrian event and insisted a helicopter drop him off right in front of Gates and his daughter. Trump asked Gates about how to corner the vaccines market and Gates insulted Trump saying "he asked me the difference between HPV and HIV". Gates said Trump also made inappropriate comments about his daughter. Billionaires remember that shit.
Gates is obsessed with vaccines now and is about to corner the market. He and Melinda are the largest personal donors to the WHO, and Trump just broke from WHO, which would have gone along with Gates and have mandatory cards of being vaccinated for all travel including airlines. With Gates cornering vaccine market AND technology the man will rule the world. He swears he will "give away" the vaccine but his web of companies will of course profit and one of his many "holding companies" will own the vaccine stock. So Trump pulls from WHO. Like I said, billionaires remember shit.
I will be back. I am investigating.
Notomorrow
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Wall of text = lack of intelligence
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I was looking into what Bill Gate's involvement with Larry Page, original developer of "the algorithm" and original CEO of Google was. A google search reveals wouldn't you know, these bitter rivals are coming together on behalf of VACCINES.
www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/bill-gates-larry-page-fight-flu/
However, as any good investigative journalist I had to research digitaltrends.com and find out who the CEO of digitaltrends.com was. And wouldn't you know? It's Microsoft's own IT Manager Ian Bell!!!! He wanted to give an unbiased report from "digital trends" on Page and Gates teaming up on vaccines.
However I also needed to know if Larry Page had in fact previous employment or connection to Gates, as if he in fact created the algorithm then Microsoft would enjoy perhaps billions of dollars from positive or neutral hits from Google.
I will be DEAD HONEST with you, at the time I started going here, I began getting very intimidating "alerts". There was a big red box with a big red x and all it said was "do you wish to continue"? And google kept popping up asking to verify my i.d. I wasn't doing anything illegal or going on the dark web or anything. But I was going to the true independents, and it was fucking tiring having to trace who owned every fucking "article or trend", but a CEO search would always come back to a Microsoft connection. So I also used a google defiltered tool, it wasn't easy. Howstuffworks, all that shit goes right back to Gates. Every fucking website. Find that fucking CEO he's got some fucking tie to Gates. Fine, that's the world of the elite. I just don't understand. I'm a peasant that has six pack abs. A meathead. But I can ask questions....god dammit...I have a right to fucking ask questions...I'm an American
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You watch this shit get banned.
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What do you think the end game is then?
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What do you think the end game is then?
$$$ and power.
Same as always.
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It's not hard to switch your search engine.
I use Duckduckgo.
Maybe Gates runs that too.
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Another conspiracy thread. :-\
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It's not hard to switch your search engine.
I use Duckduckgo.
Maybe Gates runs that too.
Duckduck go is not unfiltered, if you thought it was. Unfiltered is a totally different thing and can be used on Google, starting with removing personaliazation, but you can also get a different algorithm based on making your settings different.
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Getbig need to put a limit on number of words.
If you cant get your point across in a few sentences then dont post.
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Getbig need to put a limit on number of words.
If you cant get your point across in a few sentences then dont post.
This isn't the first time you have called for censorship. I know multiple sentences frustrates you. Ever think of going to a fucking thread with just pictures ? Go look at some fucking lat spread of who has the biggest bulge you piece of garbage. It's a fucking WRITTEN board. It's for people to write their gossip and opinions. You are someone who clearly HATES TO READ. A stupid, picture book guy that asks "What's the point of talking about things?" It's called intellectual discussion and if you don't like it GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE THREAD.
This is what happened to getbig, why EVERYONE in the industry says it went to shit. FriedChickenDinner motherfuckers came in and any interesting conversation was eliminated.
Everyone on this board realize that greasy chicken here wants to have CENSORSHIP, where only tweets are allowed because he can't read. What happened to going to another thread? Actually you have been involved in calling for censorship before. Saying people should be banned.
Who is this greasy chicken fuck calling for speech to be limited all the time? Go search his threads and he has called for Getbig to censor speech multiple times
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We need a Getbig search engine.
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In the meantime, when I finish Gates I am going after the bodybuilding/supplement industry and exposing it. Yeah others have, but I am going to figure the whole shit out. For example, why there are no CEO's in the supplement industry to be held responsible? I think Ron Avidan can even help, as he is listed as Vice President of DNA Nutrition and Getbig but no listed CEO or owner. I know Ron is legit and it has been my privilege to use the board, but alot of us would like to know what's going on with all these companies we see on the shelves for years. I traced Species Nutrition and Palumbo and the products seem to be made by a Chinese Company called XinYao Bio. Here they have Lipolyze for $7 wholesale. Palumbo could shut the site down if it wasn't the true manufacturer. Palumbo may just be wholesaling this shit with no idea what's in it, then saying all the detail and care he is taking with his products. I don't know. I have not investigated yet. I am still on Gates. But I even got an email from Denise Rutkowski and I just said I'm going to to a full expose on the corrupt industry on Getbig and her family(sister or someone) said they would consider talking to me as long as I am not promoting a youtube or any other page for profit.. Probably won't happen but I did make contact. But I'm not done with Gates yet.
https://xinyao88.en.made-in-china.com/productimage/zsXmxTZubihq-2f1j00dbcULvusnpqH/China-Species-Nutrition-Lipolyze-Advanced-Fat-Burn-and-Weight-Loss-Formula.html
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Do you want us to notify anyone when you disappear into the woodchipper?
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Do you want us to notify anyone when you disappear into the woodchipper?
TWO people actually came up with the Google algorithm, Larry Page and his partner, Rajeev Motwani. Right before Larry Page became CEO of google, his partner Rajeev Motwani, who also created the algorithm was found dead. They said he fell into his swimming pool by accident and drowned. Would have been part of negotiations with Google.
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It's not hard to switch your search engine.
I use Duckduckgo.
Maybe Gates runs that too.
Yes Gates does run DuckDuckgo whose revenue stream is derived from BING advertisements, Gate's Microsoft browser trying to compete with Google. Here is DUCKDUCKGO's official profile. Bing is Gate's search engine
DuckDuckGo uses Bing's search results and displays them on their own website. DuckDuckGo uses Bing's proprietary search algorithm through the use of Bing's API to show you search results. ... Do a search on Bing and do the same search on DuckDuckGo. You'll see the organic results will match.
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The Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure (JEDI) contract is a large United States Department of Defense cloud computing contract which has been reported as being worth $10 billion.[1][2]
In August 2019, weeks before the winner was expected to be announced, President Donald Trump ordered the contract placed on hold again for Defense Secretary Mark Esper to investigate complaints of favoritism towards Amazon.[7] In October 2019, it was announced that the contract was awarded to Microsoft. Media has noted Trump's dislike towards Amazon's founder, Bezos, owner of the Washington Post, a newspaper critical of Trump.[8][9] According to Bezos, Trump "used his power to 'screw Amazon' out of the JEDI Contract".[10]
The JEDI contract was awarded to Microsoft on October 25, 2019, the DoD announced,[11] but AWS filed documents with the Court of Federal Claims on 22 November 2019 challenging the award.[12].
A federal judge Patricia Campbell-Smith halted Microsoft's work on the project on February 13, 2020, a day before the system was scheduled to go live, awaiting a resolution in Amazon's suit[13]. She said that Amazon's claims are reasonable and “is likely to succeed on the merits of its argument that the DOD improperly evaluated” Microsoft's offer.[
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Bill Gates had a closer relationship with Jeffrey Epstein than he admitted, The New York Times reports
In The New York Times article, a spokeswoman for Gates declined to say how many times the pair had met. The paper’s reporting shows that Gates met with Epstein “numerous times,” including at least three times at Epstein’s townhouse. “His lifestyle is very different and kind of intriguing although it would not work for me,” Gates wrote in a 2011 email to colleagues.
In 2011, Gates instructed a team to meet Epstein at his townhouse to discuss philanthropic fundraising, The New York Times reports. Epstein told the people there that his conviction for soliciting prostitution from an underage girl was no worse than “stealing a bagel,” according to two people who were there.
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Good thread NT.
Im with IroNat though, dont be alone and always check your brakes.
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Not gonna lie, this has turned into a pretty interesting thread! Keep up the good work NT
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I am currently figuring out the connection with Gates and Epstein. The first step is to figure out how the fuck Epstein got his money. It's only mysteriously reported. So here it is. Epstein was a teacher and friends with our current Attorney General William Barr at the Dalton School, a prestigious private high school. Epstein was an unqualified, college dropout that Barr's Dad did Epstein a favor and gave him his first position as a teacher at the prestigious Dalton high school. Years later, our Attorney General William Barr would be in charge of Federal prosecution of Epstein and refused to recuse himself, despite the OBVIOUS conflict of interest. Epstein was a flunky, no one could understand why Barr's Dad would give him a position other than the teenage girls. Epstein was known all over the Dalton school for fucking the teenage students he was teaching, he bragged about it and our attorney General knew about it. My hunch is Epstein hooked old Daddy Barr up, like he probably hooked Gates up, and this bullshit of him being some "mysterious hedge investor", covers a long history of sexual abuse and he may have in fact been a "pimp", for the worlds elite, providing teenage girls from around the world at a private island. I am still investigating so things need to be checked out.
The ‘Epstein-Barr’ Problem of New York City’s Dalton School
Reports Friday from the New York Times and the Huffington Post detail Epstein’s brief tenure at the Dalton School, which has produced several famous alumni including Christian Slater, Claire Danes, Chevy Chase, and Anderson Cooper, where his behavior with the school’s teenage girls seared a lasting impression into the memories of former students.
Epstein, who was charged last week by federal authorities in the Southern District of New York with sex trafficking with sex-trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex-trafficking, was a 20 year old college drop-out when he was hired to teach at Dalton by the school’s headmaster Donald Barr in the mid 1970’s. Donald Barr was the father of current United States Attorney General William Barr, who is currently overseeing Epstein’s prosecution.
Scott Spizer, who graduated in 1976, said that Epstein was most remembered for his “persistent attention” on teenage girls in the hallways, recalled a night when the young educator showed up at a party where Dalton students were drinking. “I can remember thinking at the time, ‘This is wrong,’” Spizer said in an interview with the New York Times.
“It was weird,” said Paul Grossman, a 1978 Dalton graduate who remembered students talking about Epstein’s attendance at the party in school “Everyone talked about it,” he said to the Times.
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I think the Gates/Epstein connection might be a bit of a dead end. Gates is far too limp dicked to be interested in Epsteins world.
Look into Gates and his connections with Monsanto.
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Getbig need to put a limit on number of words.
If you cant get your point across in a few sentences then dont post.
Matt Canning is in big trouble then!
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Ok this post is a little conspiracy "ish", but you should know the facts. Donald Barr Sr, Epstein's mentor and father of our current Attorney General once wrote a book in 1973 called Space Relations. Interesting plot.
SPACE RELATIONS(Donald Barr)
In the future, humans have formed an intergalactic empire ruled by aristocrats. During a time of war with the Plith, an empire of ant-like alien bug people, ambassador John Craig, a formerly Liberal Earth man in his 30s, is dispatched to the strategically important planet Kossar, a human colony that was settled by the Carlyle Society as a place of exile for political extremists and now is ruled by an oligarchical high council of seven nobles, each of whom is in charge of a different domain with its own traditions. Their boredom and absolute power have driven them to madness, to the point that Kossar's entry into the empire has been stymied by the Man-Inhabited Planets Treaty's clause (written by Craig) against alliances with slave owning societies, due to its practice of kidnapping humans to become illegal playthings of the galaxy's super-rich.
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Epsteins temple is ugly as fuck.
No point getting lost in the Epstein rabbit hole. He was in banking for a while and probably hooked a few people up in that world, so that could account for some of his wealth. Also there was all that stuff about blackmail. I don't think he was behind the blackmailing, more a facilitator for the rich and powerful to control others.
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Update
The 10 billion dollar Department of Defense JEDI contract was awarded to Microsoft, to provide the cloud computing for the Department of Defense. However, once Gates got in the door he is using Microsoft cloud computing to infiltrate every level of government. Microsoft Azure cloud is now being used to fight Corona Virus
NEWS(zd,net)
Microsoft's Cloud and AI Services Tapped in Coronavirus Fight
Microsoft announced on Friday that it is supporting the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC's) newly released COVID-19 assessment bot, which is "powered by Microsoft Azure."
Gates is also developing a system of verifying vaccinations and health checks, which will have to be done before travel and of course will be done on Microsoft Software. Now back to the Jedi military contract. There is an open letter of protest by Microsoft employees, it is kind of hard to find but it was on Twitter where they felt Gates getting into military work was not the peaceful. Someone help me find Twitter post.
Microsoft enters the War Room
The letter was released on Twitter by the group Microsoft Workers 4 Good, a self-described “global coalition of Microsoft workers,” who are against Redmond-based company contracting with the U.S. government, specifically for the integrated visual augmentation system (IVAS) contract that would tailor Hololens technology to both train soldiers and assist them in live-combat operations.JEDI, which stands for Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure, is a 10-year deal with the Department of Defense (DoD) to provide cloud services for all branches of the military.
The letter cited these principles based a blog published by Microsoft earlier this year — which detailed the dangers of AI and called for ethical development and deployment of the technology. The employees said that because of the secrecy surrounding the specific applications of JEDI, there is no way to determine “whether our work is being used to aid profiling, surveillance, or killing.”
So Microsoft will have CDC, Department of Defense, and all other cloud service for the American Government. He will be the most powerful man in the private sector, and possibly one of the most powerful men in government. Especially during Corona
So Microsoft software and AI will be used for the CDC and Corona task, the Department of Defense, and frankly any cloud or computer services will obviously be used by Microsoft, as the military contract will not prevent Gates from using it for EVERY branch of government. I already detailed how Gates runs nearly all of technology, despite being quiet about it.
But this will be world domination shit by Gates. I am still investigating. Next post will be much shorter. Sorry.
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I think the Gates/Epstein connection might be a bit of a dead end. Gates is far too limp dicked to be interested in Epsteins world.
Look into Gates and his connections with Monsanto.
Looking into Monsanto and that's a whole mess. The thing to remember is it ALWAYS traces back to Gates. Here he bought 500,000 shares of Monsanto for 23 billion yet bought it through the Gates Foundation. I'll have to look more as Monsanto has a bunch of weird board members with weird links to Gates companies.
What looks bigger is Gates and cloud computing. Edward Snowden took the world by storm when he exposed the data collection practices of the National Security Agency, known to many as the NSA. Much ink has been spilled on the constitutionality of such practices and the scope of its surveillance yet the cloud computing that facilitates such surveillance often goes unmentioned, if not unnoticed.
All governments will be moving to cloud technology, and Gates will be at the center.
Cloud Computing Market to Hit USD 760.98 Billion by 2027; Rising Demand for Improved Virtual Access to Information Among Industries to Foster Steady Growth: Fortune Business Insights™
Gates will have set government contracts, and who knows if the cloud software will allow surveillance or anything else. But it will run government. Official statement of NSA in 2012 was
Cloud computing offers government agencies more flexibility than traditional IT infrastructures. With a cloud service provider, there are no more worries about limited resources, buying and housing servers and hardware, updating software, or data protection.
Still alot to do. I'll get there. Bodybuilding industry coming up.
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It's pretty rare that people would read a wall of text and actually turn it into an interesting thread. Thank you. I won't disrespect board with more WALLS OF TEXT until I have something really interesting. Next is like the bodybuilding industry. I have to be careful for my safety, so going to just stick to today's bullshit, as like I always said, FIND THE CEO. There are many supplement companies that started with steroid drug money and it can be traced all the way back to how Bill Phillips(Mr. Hmb feels like Deca) really started MuscleMedia2000. RIP Dan Duchaine. So I'm investigating.
For now, I'm going to go post on synthol girl, I frankly think it's a damn good synthol job on her arms. Fake but accentuated where it should be, roundness, fullness. She had like black guy arms. Fuck. Sunday I allow myself to enjoy marijuana.
I really thank anyone who read all my shit, I really was passionate about it, not bullshitting.
Notomorrow
I know, another wall of text
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Snowden warned Americans that they would drones on them and he has been justified.
The Monsanto line is interesting because of it's connections with big pharma and vaccines. Most think it has something to do with Gates and his "depopulation agenda". What I found was something slightly different, but equally worrying. High yield and hardy GM crops being championed by Gates/Monsanto appear to be devoid of certain nutritional properties (precursors to producing glutathione) which play an important role in a healthy immune system. A weak immune system means the need for more drugs and more vaccines, again championed by Gates. Almost like they want us weak, sucking on their teat and begging for them to save us, meanwhile they are the ones creating the problems and getting rich off it.
I must admit I need to look at Gates and cloud computing in more detail, although I have my suspicions where all that could be heading..
I'm not too sure I have the stomach to look too deep into the world of bodybuilding. Still haven't recovered from that Ric Drasin thread!
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Bodybuilding is next. I have some really great investigations planned. Steroids are boring. I have some angles that have not been discussed and my ability to always Find the Ceo Next time you do some random search about Microsoft or tech or whatever and it's one of those goofy sites like howstuffworks.com or digitalnews.com or Wired.com and you think you are reading an article, find the CEO of those websites and you will often literally find a Microsoft executive or some link to one. Might have to dig a little but it's Gates.
You won't find any supplement CEO'S. Palumbo is of course "President and Founder" of Species Nutrition. Find who has their name on that fucking deed and you got an investigation.
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Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals would be a good place to start your investigations. It will also end up taking you to Singerman and PJ which is always fun.
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XINYAO BIO is the manufacturer of Species Nutrition. A Chinese company. No supplement company has anything to do with the manufacturing of their products.They use these "procurement companies" and they pay fees to be able to say things like "triple filtered". It often is the exact same product as a cheap brand who didn't want to pay anything but "generic formula".They actually are listed as owner. This is their order page with Lipolyze at $4 each. At 1000+ it must be Palumbo's order page for wholesalers.The ingredients listed on Lipolyze are Green Tea and flavoring,essentially. So got a cheap green tea supplement from China and said this on his business statement. He checked a BOX and ordered a green tea mix. It's a generic blend from XINYAO BIO. Here is the wholesale page for $4. He bought some green tea cheap from China. Had NOTHING to do with the manufacturing. It's a procurement company.
https://xinyao88.en.made-in-china.com/productimage/zsXmxTZubihq-2f1j00dbcULvusnpqH/China-Species-Nutrition-Lipolyze-Advanced-Fat-Burn-and-Weight-Loss-Formula.html
But here is Palumbo's official business statement and oath....
"LIPOLYZE and SOMALYZE were the synthesis of years of trial and error; using myself and my clients as guinea pigs to uncover the ideal qualities and quantities of ingredients that would yield superior fat burning effects. What has been produced is nothing less than miraculous.?
Then on his website you'll note they'll only say highest quality ingredients. This means SHIT. But they NEVER say where it's manufactured. They say exactly what they received from their procurement company, the right to say "made under the strictest standards and with the highest quality".
So many places to investigate. I'll see
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I've got evolution-x llc as the manufacturers of Lipolyze
https://www.bbb.org/us/fl/cape-coral/profile/health-products/evolution-x-llc-0653-90300292
Are you sure the Chinese site isn't one of those trying to sell knockoffs? I've found a few others, but all originating in the same place..
https://wosen8153.en.made-in-china.com/product/gslxqJMUODcf/China-Species-Nutrition-Lipolyze-Advanced-Fat-Loss-Formula.html
https://caibo668.en.made-in-china.com/product/eyMQsWuOLlVa/China-Species-Nutrition-Lipolyze-Advanced-Fat-Loss-Formula.html
Can't trust the Chinese or "fake GH" Dave either, so who knows. This is why buying supplements is a mine field!
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XINYAO BIO is the listed manufacturer of Lipolyze. But I a still in planning stage of investigation. The BBB page for Evolution-X LLC lists an "alternate name" of RXMUSCLE, which certainly is not producing supplements. The listed owner of Species and Lipolyze is Evolution-x. Which is RXMUSCLE, but Dave is NOT listed as CEO but as Founder and President. They are playing the "Guess who owns it and who makes it" game that all supplement companies play. I guarantee they are using a supplement procurement generic company where they check off boxes and pay fines to be able to say whatever. Species/Evolution-x/RxMuscle does not seem to be BBB accredited either, but that could be for various reasons including employee size. A trademark search basically shows Evolution-X owns Species and Lipolyze, Heavy Muscle Radio but then Palumbo says Species makes it. Listed owner of the whole thing seems to be a guy Matt Tiess, so have to figure out who that is.
https://www.trademarkia.com/company-evolutionx-llc-4063356-page-1-2
I also lived in Guadalajara, Mexico for several years as a translator in small government(I am a bilingual white guy-spanish ), where I trained and even met John Romano in his Gold's Gym in Guadalajara multiple times with my membership to Gold's Xochitl he owned(Recently changed to Gym Guadalajara). Great Gym. But there is one particular supplement called SIMI COMPLEX that is sold for a couple bucks in farmacias in Mexico, 42 grams Whey protein and another MAJOR American supplement company not only used the same Mexican procurer, it is THE EXACT SAME WHEY from the Mexican factory that goes to cheap SIMI and this high priced brand. I traced the manufacturing.
I have to be careful to really research this, as I have found some bombshells about how Weider got around homosexual pornography laws charges of Congress by calling mostly nude men a a sport. I may touch a little on Bill Phillips and how he started MM2000, the drug money, Dan Duchaine, the Tijuana vet days(QV, Denkall,and the buffed Kangaroo from SydGroup labs). That goes into some interesting shit.
I honestly did make contact with Denise Rutkowski and a 10% chance she will talk to me but I will touch on prostitution and sex in bodybuilding, both men and women, who controls it,etc. I train at Golds and may respectfully ask some of those guys at Golds that are still there from opening and have Arnold stories.etc. I have to narrow down my focus on the investigation so any suggestions appreciated.
But supplements are from procurement companies that ship all bulk and I believe are altered little or nothing to fit specifications. I need to find orders. If Palumbo and ALL OTHERS simply checked off boxes and have NOTHING to do with manufacturing, it should be known when they imply they have ANYTHING to do with manufacturing.
So Flex or anyone, the please look at a bottle of Species(or any other supplement and just see the "made in" sign on the bottle, and which is often tiny, and see what country it is made in. Then you find the CEO of whatever company is the ACTUAL manufacturer,etc and start breaking the walls down when it comes to supplements. My initial research suggests NO supplement company has anything to do with making their products I can't find made in label online.
But this is PRE INVESTIGATING. Still just gathering date. For now reading Miuscle, Smoke and Mirrors by Randy Roach , which is multiple volumes on who financed supplements, and a lot of other topics of research.
Just to make clear, I am an amatuer, posting on Getbig Gossip and opinions and everything I say is for entertainment purposes only. Have to cover my back.
It may be hard to believe some random guy on getbig can do it, but I am going to have a VERY thorough look at corruption in this industry that most of us on this board both love and hate. I want it to be the most in depth ever. I am NOT trying to hurt anyone's business or reputation and am looking for the good guys in the industry as well. Before I post, I am going to show some oldtimers, maybe Drasin who I have spoken with before. will interview some real supplement company people who I can show my work, or other old or new timers before posting to see if anything is in.accurate or not researched properly
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All supplement company owners and their marketing are bullshit. Except for Muscletech, who's creatine really has 8,967,435.9807659803% more absorption than any other companies.
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Get in touch with Jerry Brainum if you can as he must have seen and heard it all. Love that guy (no homo)
The Species Nutrition site is definitely claiming that evolution-x manufacture Lipolyze
https://speciesnutrition.com/products/lipolyze?variant=926606555
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0657/9523/products/lipolyze-suppfacts-1000x908_grande-new_0a410018-d674-4ec5-a8b2-01c2ea4dcdaf.jpg?v=1571659910)
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Get in touch with Jerry Brainum if you can as he must have seen and heard it all. Love that guy (no homo)
The Species Nutrition site is definitely claiming that evolution-x manufacture Lipolyze
https://speciesnutrition.com/products/lipolyze?variant=926606555
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0657/9523/products/lipolyze-suppfacts-1000x908_grande-new_0a410018-d674-4ec5-a8b2-01c2ea4dcdaf.jpg?v=1571659910)
I am trying to find this supposed NY manufacturing plant. Where are they and who is the CEO? Nothing on internet so if I have to Freedom in Information Act request it, I will. I bet they are outsourcing to a procurement company. A company like this
https://www.nutracapusa.com/?source=nutracapAW&utm_campaign=763680631&utm_term=supplement%20manufacturing&campaignid=763680631&adgroupid=64120530448&adid=295374944043&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIktO_yvry6QIVEQnnCh10sgANEAAYAyAAEgKlzfD_BwE
What I can do is track what company uses what supplement procurement company, although these companies keep it private,
As you can see, I am being tracked and cannot access the site directly. The industry does not want to expose sites like this, as it is THE way supplement companies broker supplements. As for now, the key is finding exactly where it is produced. Claiming production does not mean they made it. They checked boxes for what they are allowed to say. The key is where is this NY plant? Who runs it? Who is the CEO?. Not of Evolution or Species but who and where is this plant in NY. Westbury, NY is where Palumbo lived before Florida, not a manufacturing plant.
Still in preliminary investigation.
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Ignore my earlier posts. It says "manufactured for and distributed by Evolution-x llc" so your China line is probably correct.
The product is basically a Green tea extract for $1 for 2 caps which is daylight robbery. Nothing however beats the rip off that is Fiberlyze. A 10g serving of psyllium husk fiber for $1 when the true cost is closer to 10cents!
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FDA LAW
Unless excepted by law, the Tariff Act requires that every article of foreign origin (or its container) imported into the United States conspicuously indicate the English name of the country of origin of the article.
Section 304, Tariff Act of 1930, as amended (19 U.S.C. 304).
So Palumbo is not listing the country of origin which by law is required for all supplements. Unless you can find a MADE IN THE USA sticker on Species, which if it WAS made in the US most manufacturers would promote that heavily and have it prominently displayed.
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finally an interesting thread on GB after all the BS on the front page lately. kudos OP.
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All supplement company owners and their marketing are bullshit. Except for Muscletech, who's creatine really has 8,967,435.9807659803% more absorption than any other companies.
MuscleTech is a brand of dietary supplements, marketed by Iovate Health Sciences Inc., which includes Hydroxycut. It was owned by Canadian company Kerr Holdings which was acquired by the Xiwang Foodstuffs Company, a Chinese company, for $5.84 million in 2016.[1]
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I believe I may have found the manufacture. Yes it's XINYAO and China
https://www.resourcesinchina.com/8629/home/1.html
Also this
"AllegroMedical.com presents The Species Nutrition Lipolyze Weight Loss / Energy Supplement Gluten Free. Mitochondrial Optimizer. Appetite Suppressant Technology. Advanced Fat Loss Formula. Caffeine Free. Stimulant Free. Gluten Free. Lipolyze contains natural uncoupling agents. These non-stimulant based compounds help the body burn calories without raising heart rate, without elevating blood pressure and without causing central nervous system stimulation. These processes help the body shed unwanted body fat. Lipolyze also helps suppress appetite, supports mitochondrial health and increases the body"s intracellular fatty acid oxidation efficiency."
https://www.resourcesinchina.com/8629/proudct/Species-Nutrition-Lipolyze-Advanced-Fat-Burn-and-Weight-Loss-Formula-767326.html
**Lmao. Allegro medical is selling Lipolyse $11 cheaper ($34.10) than Dave ($44.99) and that includes Daves $10 full price listing mark down.
https://www.allegromedical.com/dietary-supplements-c522/species-nutrition-lipolyze-p583830.html
https://speciesnutrition.com/products/lipolyze?variant=926606555
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XINYAO BIO seems to be a generic name, and many of these Chinese wholesalers switch name slightly like ChengCheng, XINYAO, but manufacture for Met-Rx, Muscletech and a whole bunch of others, each product with specific manufacturing info from China. The Muscletech products from China actually have a Chromadex scan, which is the industry standard of legitimacy. One way to find out is email Muscletech at their email to see if this Musceltech is made by XINYAO(or related Chinese company).
It looks like proving Chinese and other supplement procurement facilities will prove NO ONE makes or has anything to do with their supplements. Email Muscletech to report counterfeits at counterfeits@iovate.com and ask if this Chinese, or another Chinese wholesaler actually makes their products and they have nothing to do with them. Be ready for a bullshit answer and ask for business names and CEOs
This Chinese manufacturing connection could be big
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This Chinese manufacturing connection could be big
It is. You can find 14 pages of well known brands (nutrex, ON, Solgar, Holland&Barrets, met-rx, natrol to name a few) in each of the links I provided. This particular division focuses on slimming and green tea products. It has other divisions focusing on different lines
https://www.resourcesinchina.com/8629/productlist/1.html
https://www.resourcesinchina.com/3696/productlist/1-1.html
https://www.resourcesinchina.com/8619/productlist/1-2.html
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It is. You can find 14 pages of well known brands in the link I provided. This particular division focuses on slimming and green tea products. It has other divisions focusing on different lines
https://www.resourcesinchina.com/8629/productlist/1.html
https://www.resourcesinchina.com/3696/productlist/1-1.html
https://www.resourcesinchina.com/8619/productlist/1-2.html
Thing about it is they have specific manufacturing info for each product if you scroll down. Lot #'s,etc. The company profile also does millions in revenue. Doesn't sound like some counterfeiter. How many counterfeiters could knock out 1000+ bottles of Lipolyze, Muscletech, Met-Rx, Nutrix, and MANY others. I think we have found the Chinese Connection but much more investigating has to be done to prove it. Like I said, the initial investigation suggests that NO supplement company has ANYTHING to do with the manufacturing of their supplements in any way. It's a fucking maze that I WILL TRACK DOWN.
There is so much more work to be done on bodybuiding. Excellent start.
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Thing about it is they have specific manufacturing info for each product if you scroll down. Lot #'s,etc. The company profile also does millions in revenue. Doesn't sound like some counterfeiter. How many counterfeiters could knock out 1000+ bottles of Lipolyze, Muscletech, Met-Rx, Nutrix, and MANY others. I think we have found the Chinese Connection but much more investigating has to be done to prove it.
There is so much more work to be done on bodybuiding. Excellent start.
Where do you usually take it next? Normally I just stop here and make sure to avoid these supplements.
Also LOL @Dave Palumbo not even owning the exclusive rights to Species nutrition and selling the products at a mark up. He is basically a shill.
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More brands, ones that I normally would trust. Animal and even Nature Valley bars wtf!
https://www.resourcesinchina.com/23315/productlist/1-13.html
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The first is to establish that nearly ALL supplements in bodybuilding are made by Chinese wholesalers, an no one actually has anything to do with their product other than filling out an order form and checking what boxes they pay a fee for to call "custom blend" and such. But any company that suggests that they have developed, produced or in ANY way had something to do with the manufacturing will be called out. In fact shipping routes can be traced to show it is all shipped bulk, so its all the same shit anyway. I believe we could blow lid of Olympia EXPO if we said where each booth was manufactured and that NO booth did ANY production of their products, as they say how "they" added more "filtered creatine" or some formula they say "they have been working on".
Then we go to the good stuff. Some history. I am still finishing this book on Weiders and the whole way the supplement industry was structured from the beginning. We have gay for pay, prostitution, I have a particular affinity to oldtimers, hearing some old stories and how the corruption was back then vs now. Any suggestions are VERY welcome. Steroids are fine if there is a unique angle, but calling out steroid guys is boring and we all now they are on.
Maybe a little on MM2000 with Bill Phillips. I have some info on it. Tracing supplement companies started with drug money is always interesting but I like the stories that aren't told so much.
I'll find the interesting angles like I've done so far. For now, back to research. I'll be back. I honestly will try to set up a couple interviews. I'll be back when I have anything interesting. Need to go research. Thanks to everybody
Leave you with a news story
China Drives Another Nail in the Coffins of GNC and Vitamin ShoppeReal Money 2016
Stand-alone vitamin and supplement shops like GNC and Vitamin Shoppe shares will continue to fall in light of a Justice Department investigation The Justice Department indictment alleges that GNC and USPlabs "engaged in a conspiracy to import ingredients from China using false certificates of analysis and false labeling and then lied about the source and nature of those ingredients after it put them in its products." Also, "USPlabs told some of its retailers and wholesalers that it used natural plant extracts in products called Jack3d and OxyElite Pro, when in fact it was using a synthetic stimulant manufactured in a Chinese chemical factory."
The Justice Department's case raises questions as to whether GNC and Vitamin Shoppe have more mislabeled products -- possibly made in China -- sitting on their shelves undiscovered.
"There is product coming in from China into the United States that at this time we do not believe is properly labeled, made in China, and it's being sold in the U.S.," Papa said. "That's something that we do think we will get resolved, but I don't want to put a specific time on it because things like that take quite a long time. But that pressure on products coming in from China has been noticed in our pricing for our VMS supplements, Papa of Perrigo(PRGO) supplements explained.
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Damn you're really going in! Yes the China connection indisputable. The Chinese site even advertises that they also manufacture all labels and packaging. They are shipping out pallets of supplements straight from China that just need unpacking and they are pretty much ready to be sold on as is. Truly despicable.
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So Palumbo could be done. We have seen that he ABSOLUTELY is having a Chinese company not only make his supplements, but he does not even own the company. He BY LAW is required to state that it is made in China and anyone with a Species container please look if it says "Made in China" anywhere as I want to be fair. But with the sheer amount of supplement companies that are doing China Wholesaling and breaking the law by not listing what country it is manufactured in, this is BIG. The fine can be a year in jail plus fines and you could look at half the supplement industry shut down. They hopefully have some legal team that has some exception but
Here is the LAW
In the United States, the marking statute, Section 304, Tariff Act of 1930, as amended (19 U.S.C. 1304) requires that, unless excepted, every article of foreign origin (or its container) imported into the U.S. shall be marked with its country of origin.
alteration of a marking of the country of origin required by section 304, Tariff Act of 1930, as amended (19 U.S.C. 1304), and this part in order to conceal this information may result in criminal penalties and imprisonment for 1 year, as provided in 19 U.S.C. 1304.
THIS IS WHAT PALUMBO IS DOING ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHER SUPPLEMENT COMPANIES IMPORTING READY MADE SHIT FROM CHINA WHO MAKE THE LABELS AND ALL. I have to be careful on this and research more before putting someone on blast. But Dave looks busted unless there is a made in China label on Species. Someone just find a Made in China please on Species(XINYAO BIO) There are things I like about Dave and he's a good guy but the fake HGH, now this shit, you have to follow the rules at some point.
Don't spread this outside this thread yet please, still investigating but Palumbo as a former felon could really pay for this shit so let's be fair to him. He has a side. But this looks like it's the WHOLE industry sneaking this one by before Notomorrow came.
I'll find out. You HAVE to list where your product is made. I'll stand corrected and move on to other investigation if someone just shows a made in China on Lipolyze.
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Why should it surprise anyone that a former drug dealer felon would engage in unethical business practices?
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Why should it surprise anyone that a former drug dealer felon would engage in unethical business practices?
What is surprising(actually not), is it looks like 90% of the industry has been doing it. Go look at ANY supplement you have, and see if it has where it is made. If it doesn't list the Country, something is up. If your supplement says "Made for and distributed by it means they didn't make it and probably used a cheap Chinese company and not just unethically, but ILLEGALLY lied to the public about the manufacturing, suggesting it was somehow produced by the supplement company. The most they ever do is get samples, test flavors,etc before a big order, this is called their '"research and development".
Business is business and I don't want to hurt the innocent, but when a guy like Palumbo describes his stock green tea extract from China like this, something has to be done. "Mitochondrial optimizer?" And he just fills out an order form to China then conceals the country on the label and pretends he made it? Note he says his title is "founder and President" Not CEO because the supplements are owned and made somewhere else. Again, please no one go anywhere with this as I am doing an investigation still. Please leave on this thread for now, until I have whole piece on bodybuilding.
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Walls kinda closing in on you there?
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Walls kinda closing in on you there?
Not sure if you mean Palumbo or me, but yes I have to be VERY careful. If anything happens to me, you'll know why. This could destroy the OLYMPIA EXPO if people found out that nearly EVERY supplement company buys ready made crap, with packaging, ingredients and labels from China and has nothing to do with their manufacturing.
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What is surprising(actually not), is it looks like 90% of the industry has been doing it. Go look at ANY supplement you have, and see if it has where it is made. If it doesn't list the Country, something is up. If your supplement says "Made for and distributed by it means they didn't make it and probably used a cheap Chinese company and not just unethically, but ILLEGALLY lied to the public about the manufacturing, suggesting it was somehow produced by the supplement company. The most they ever do is get samples, test flavors,etc before a big order, this is called their '"research and development".
Business is business and I don't want to hurt the innocent, but when a guy like Palumbo describes his stock green tea extract from China like this, something has to be done. "Mitochondrial optimizer?" And he just fills out an order form to China then conceals the country on the label and pretends he made it? Note he says his title is "founder and President" Not CEO because the supplements are owned and made somewhere else. Again, please no one go anywhere with this as I am doing an investigation still. Please leave on this thread for now, until I have whole piece on bodybuilding.
Just checked all of my supplements and they all say "made for" and "distributed by" on the labels.
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finally an interesting thread on GB after all the BS on the front page lately. kudos OP.
Thank you sir. Was very passionate about this, not bullshitting for views.
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I know you are trying to keep this thread serious, but I hope you won't mind this moment of levity. It does also show that you can't take any of the claims from this Chinese manufacturer seriously.
This is one of the products they are manufacturing alongside all these well known supplement brands..
100% Original Big Dick Herbal Enlargement XXL Cream
https://www.resourcesinchina.com/23315/proudct/one-hundred-percent-Original-Big-Dick-Herbal-Enlargement-XXL-Cream-2295897.html
They are making outrageous claims for this product then at the bottom of the page posting a bunch of their certificates/accreditations
(https://img.resourcesinchina.com/UpLoad/big/20190916/2019411312414396.jpg)
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I know you are trying to keep this thread serious, but I hope you won't mind this moment of levity. It does also show that you can't take any of the claims from this Chinese manufacturer seriously.
This is one of the products they are manufacturing alongside all these well known supplement brands..
100% Original Big Dick Herbal Enlargement XXL Cream
https://www.resourcesinchina.com/23315/proudct/one-hundred-percent-Original-Big-Dick-Herbal-Enlargement-XXL-Cream-2295897.html
They are making outrageous claims for this product then at the bottom of the page posting a bunch of their certificates/accreditations
(https://img.resourcesinchina.com/UpLoad/big/20190916/2019411312414396.jpg)
It might he shocking what a joke this chinese alphabet soup of suppliers is. Xinyaobio lists "room 609-B" as their address, not much of a factory. Here's their email to me when I contacted them in my investigation as a prospective buyer. If you get bored, see if you can figure out the Whatsapp link and who "Andy" is. Look at their goofy email to me...see ya when I got more...
Re:Inquiry about Species Nutrition Lipolyze Advanced Fat Burn and Weight Loss Formula
Message Content
Hello, dear.
Thank you for your letter
Would you like to try our weight loss products?
Where would you like to send it?
Our moQ is 1000-5000 bottles
If you want less than 1000 bottles, we can also send to you, but the unit price will be higher
We can send samples to you for testing, but would you like to pay the sample fee and freight?
We can accept TT, Moneygram, western alliance
I'd like to talk to you further. Can you tell me Whats App number?
The following is my contact information:
Company name: Shenzhen Xinyao Biotechnology Co., Ltd.
Contact: Andy
Telephone: +8618925109871
Whats App and Skype: 18925109871
Email address: andy18925109871@qq.com
Have a good day
Andy
Waiting for your good news.
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I know you are trying to keep this thread serious, but I hope you won't mind this moment of levity. It does also show that you can't take any of the claims from this Chinese manufacturer seriously.
This is one of the products they are manufacturing alongside all these well known supplement brands..
100% Original Big Dick Herbal Enlargement XXL Cream
https://www.resourcesinchina.com/23315/proudct/one-hundred-percent-Original-Big-Dick-Herbal-Enlargement-XXL-Cream-2295897.html
Big man - let your woman more crazy!
With him, no woman can not conquer the world
effectively increase penis length and girth
continued for 30 days effective
100% increase does not rebound after
more freely ejaculation control
all-natural herbs, no side effects
make sex more durable
increased sexual conidence
enhanced hardness of the penis to make erections longer lasting, more rigid
Hard, sturdy, long-lasting, so that men"s confidence, giving women a great meet!
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Big man - let your woman more crazy!
With him, no woman can not conquer the world
effectively increase penis length and girth
continued for 30 days effective
100% increase does not rebound after
more freely ejaculation control
all-natural herbs, no side effects
make sex more durable
increased sexual conidence
enhanced hardness of the penis to make erections longer lasting, more rigid
Hard, sturdy, long-lasting, so that men"s confidence, giving women a great meet!
It's still not as outrageous as some of the claims bodybuilding supplements make.
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It might he shocking what a joke this chinese alphabet soup of suppliers is. Xinyaobio lists "room 609-B" as their address, not much of a factory. Here's their email to me when I contacted them in my investigation as a prospective buyer. If you get bored, see if you can figure out the Whatsapp link and who "Andy" is. Look at their goofy email to me...see ya when I got more...
Re:Inquiry about Species Nutrition Lipolyze Advanced Fat Burn and Weight Loss Formula
Message Content
Hello, dear.
Thank you for your letter
Would you like to try our weight loss products?
Where would you like to send it?
Our moQ is 1000-5000 bottles
If you want less than 1000 bottles, we can also send to you, but the unit price will be higher
We can send samples to you for testing, but would you like to pay the sample fee and freight?
We can accept TT, Moneygram, western alliance
I'd like to talk to you further. Can you tell me Whats App number?
The following is my contact information:
Company name: Shenzhen Xinyao Biotechnology Co., Ltd.
Contact: Andy
Telephone: +8618925109871
Whats App and Skype: 18925109871
Email address: andy18925109871@qq.com
Have a good day
Andy
Waiting for your good news.
Are you looking to add and message "Andy" on whatsapp?
Add this number +8618925109871 as written to your contacts and you should be able to send a whatsapp message to it.
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Nah, the fact is that I busted the whole supplement industry here. Don't need any more. They're all doing the same China scam. EVERY one. Question is what do I to to all of them? I am part of the community or I wouldn't be here, so not sure I want to shut down the main way the industry has supported itself, but Not ONE manufacturer has anything to do with the manufacturing and illegally lists CHINESE CRAP as "formulas we designed for maximum muscle gain and fat loss". Hell you could do a video just going to the Olympia EXPO and asking every booth where they MADE their product, could be interesting, with paperwork to blast them, Someone could do a youtube video and maybe go viral. But not me. Unless someone pushes me in the industry. Cease and desist or some shit then I go Great White Shark on them.
But I will keep my report for Getbig. Much BIGGER stuff about industry coming. But this part of investigation, with others help, I have exposed the supplement industry. It's ALL bullshit from China, with very rare exceptions like Cytosport Muscle Milk, which was owned by Hormel, so had the bucks to go mainstream in supermarkets with properly made product.
But supplements are done. The whole game of "our team put together a supplement through tireless trial and error with a specific blend of aminos, and"....blah blah blah.... It's over Johnny, it's over. Notomorrow exposed this bullshit part of the industry once and for all. Just wanted to add Control Labs for good measure, the one some dude is hocking on one of the threads. No offense guy, but it's OVER.
Movin on to next part of industry.
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Actually it's never over is it? The winding road of power. The elite gave us that which can destroy them, information. Now they are desperately trying to take it back with censorship but it's too late, my report proves that. Education was traditionally for the nobles, Socrates was a noble, why all the Greek references on college campuses. Education was privilege and status. But they slipped up and made the internet free. They gave us the power of the nobles and can't take it back. And just like a classic tragedy, their hubris caused their fall.
You think there would be police protests if the Floyd video was never uploaded? Or without the fast, video capable phones they got us addicted to?, where I can stream the murder right to youtube. No destroying evidence. An eight grader can show his lazy, public school history teacher a video of a Phd Harvard History Chair saying his eight grade teacher's view on WWII is completely wrong. The power is gone. And a meathead from Getbig may just have the power to require all Bodybuilding supplements to say MADE IN CHINA for the OLYMPIA EXPO. I could, but I won't. I love bodybuilding, don't want to destroy lives. But expose the truth.
The supplement thing just gets bigger and bigger. There is actually one bodybuilding supplement company that says ....With state-of-the-art production facilities in Aurora, Illinois; Walterboro, South Carolina and Sunrise, Florida, ON is one of the few sports nutrition companies to manufacture in every product category. me finish supplements. ON is Optimum Nutrition and has a deal with Walmart. However Optimum Nutrition is owned by a company named Glanbia which is a wholesaler, just like the Chinese guys, that sells ready made supplements to companies, with "special formulas", pick your flavors and packaging.
I cannot find this supposed address of manufacturing plants for Optimum Nutrition but I did find our good ole friend XINYAO BIO looking like they make it. So someone please look on a recent bottle of Optimum Nutrition and see if is says Made in the USA as it claims on it's site. Has to list country of manufacture by law. But if Optimum Nutrition is pulling this shit, and has a contract with Walmart, then WALMART is pulling the Chinese scam.
Anyway, here are a couple very important pages, First, these companies are the main competition for wholesalers. Everyone goes to these guys and it's why Musclepharm went public. They became a wholesaler. But looks like Musclepharm is doing the old Chinese scam. So is Optimum Nutrition and Glanbia. Look at the page fast before they blur it out.
https://craft.co/glanbia/competitors
So it's narrowed it down to Glanbia and Musclepharm, and a whole mess of Chinese alphabet soup companies. Maybe companies have lawyers who can explain breaking the law and concealing that they are made in China. But this is the entire industry. Here is the product listings of XINYAO BIO. Do a search for your favorite supplement. Too many thousands to scroll through. They made it. Not sure what to do with all this.Here's Glanbia that owns Optimum Nutrition that is supposedly made in the US. More to come. Whole thing is just so corrupt. Oh and please someone check a recent Optimum Nutrition label and see if it says made in the USA as they claim.
Glanbia has already been in Federal Court over buying from China(https://www.irishtimes.com/business/agribusiness-and-food/glanbia-to-defend-us-lawsuit-over-drink-ingredients-from-china-1.4129939?.
https://m.made-in-china.com/company-xinyao88/productlist.html
This China scam goes all the way to the top.
https://www.glanbianutritionals.com/en/what-we-do/categories/sports-performance-nutrition
They are all so shady with all the different ways of getting around a CEO and listing where the hell they make their product. The physical room they supps are made. These people man. Yeah this post was too wordy and long. Sorry about that. I am working on editing to be a better investigative journalist.
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Will NoToday cause Optimum Nutrition to fold?
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Were EAS supplements (Bill Phillips) also made in China?
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Were EAS supplements (Bill Phillips) also made in China?
My hunch is yes and that this has been going on for YEARS. Although EAS was bought by Abbott Labs so trace Abbott and yep, it goes eventually to China. Bill Phillips actually started MM2000 with his brother Shawn on pure drug money. Dan Duchaine was invlolved with those little blue dbol from Tijuana(Ludwig Heun, Germanay, lol).
Anyway, I was hesitant to take them down, but after all the lying to bodybuilders and fitness enthusiasts for so many years, I think it's right to shut that shit down. How many of them have become millionaires, how many bodybuilders get supplement contracts based on this lie? Olympia expo may just have to list those fucking products as "Made in China" thanks to Notomorrow. I think it's best to get an interview, get a supplement company to talk to me to get their side, as I don't have their side yet. Will update. Can someone do me a favor and just look at an Optimum Nutrition label and see if it says Made in USA?
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I hate the Microsoft browser BING, no offense to those that like the thing, and I couldn't figure out how to turn it off and use Google so out of frustration I typed "I hate Bing" into Google search to find people like me. The top hit came back an article on "Why I ditched Google for Bing". It was not listed as an advertisement and is the default hit promoting Bing. I thought Google competed with Bing so I investigated.
I realize now that the first hit is spam I guess but it was not listed as such, and some elderly person(and me) would never know that,
https://www.wired.com/story/tried-bing-search-google-microsoft/
The article was written by Wired, which is part of Linkedin, which Bill Gates purchased,so Wired is a propaganda machine for Microsoft. Conde Nast owns Wired, and Microsoft owns Conde Nast. The chief editor of Wired.com is Nicholas Thompson, a Microsoft employee. In fact when I just typed in "Bing Search engine" in Google, the first hits were always praising Bing, despite an algorithm that is supposedly used. All of the other "objective" initial hits were by sites like zdnet, with CEO Andrew J. Brust who was Microsoft regional director. Or Medium.com with CEO Evan Williams who is director of Microsoft, Australia. All those weird little hits are Microsoft executives or related to MSFT yet are presented as legitimate articles on Bing vs. Google browser.
Microsoft essentially owns Google through a company called Alphabet Techology(GOOG). Alphabet is a "holding company", with a mysterious web of holdings, Google being one.
Sunday Pichai became CEO of Alphabet(GOOG), yet he was up for CEO of Microsoft n 2014. Satya Nadella, another Indian, is now CEO of Microsoft. This gets to the Indian connection and vaccine corruption.
Satya Nadella, India and the WHO was integral in allowing Bill Gates to do his polio vaccine testing, as well as HPV and other vaccine testing in India. Gates, the Indian Government and Saudi Prince Alwaleed essentially own the World Health Orgainization, with Gates and Alwaleed being the biggest private citizen investors in the WHO. A rare independent article said
Promising his share of $450 million of $1.2 billion to eradicate Polio, Gates took control of India’s National Technical Advisory Group on Immunization (NTAGI) which mandated up to 50 doses (Table 1) of polio vaccines through overlapping immunization programs to children before the age of five. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP) epidemic that paralyzed 490,000 children beyond expected rates between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and asked Gates and his vaccine policies to leave India. NPAFP rates dropped precipitously. The death of girls who were a part of a Human Papilloma Virus vaccine trial has raised an alarm about the nature of research in India as well as the value attached by the state to the lives of its citizens.
A trial was being conducted in Andhra Pradesh and Gujarat by the NGO PATH with support from the Indian Council of Medical Research and local health authorities. They were funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. The vaccine is supplied by two companies, Merck Sharpe & Dohme and Glaxo Smith Kline.
When the government stopped the trials, three doses had already been administered to 30,000 participants, mostly tribal girls aged between 9 and 14.
The union health minister, Ghulam Nabi Azad, has denied that the deaths have anything to do with the trials, and as things stand, there is no conclusive evidence of a causal link between the vaccine and the deaths. But the fact that the girls were a part of the trial is reason enough to warrant further investigations.
A committee has been constituted by the union government to investigate the deaths. Further action will depend on the report of the committee.
An investigation in one of the sites in AP, coordinated by the women’s health group SAMA, revealed that the trials recruited tribal girls from poor areas. These girls were malnourished. To worsen the situation, consent forms for the trial are in English which even the health care provider administering the vaccine to them may not be able to read, let alone the participants.
I am NOT claiming this is true, but you will find NO objective articles through a google search, as ANY search regarding Microsoft, Bing or vaccines about Gates will all be those bullshit sites run by someone with a connection to Microsoft, despite the "algorithm", that is supposed to be objective.
Truth is Bill Gates has ownership of nearly all articles you will read about Microsoft, both through his purchase of Linkedin and the various web companies they own. There is no chance of an independent search on Google about anything Microsoft because Google is a figurehead company owned by Alphabet(GOOG). Evan Williams, for example, who lead Microsoft Australia also "came up" with Twitter, and now Gates is a big investor in Twitter.
I was only trying to find "I hate Bing" and realized Google Search is a Microsoft puppet.
I'm sure many of you have already made these connections, but this was new to me.
Notomorrow
Yeah it's a long post so what?
I'm not reading a book
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My hunch is yes and that this has been going on for YEARS. Bill Phillips actually started MM2000 with his brother Shawn on pure drug money. Dan Duchaine was invlolved with those little blue dbol from Tijuana(Ludwig Heun, Germanay, lol).
Anyway, I was hesitant to take them down, but after all the lying to bodybuilders and fitness enthusiasts for so many years, I think it's right to shut that shit down. How many of them have become millionaires, how many bodybuilders get supplement contracts based on this lie? Olympia expo may just have to list those fucking products as "Made in China" thanks to Notomorrow. I think it's best to get an interview, get a supplement company to talk to me to get their side, as I don't have their side yet. Will update. Can someone do me a favor and just look at an Optimum Nutrition label and see if it says Made in USA?
I think Dan Duchaine started making Ultimate Orange in his garage and EAS was a very small company in Colorado before Phillips bought it. Of course, when those supplements went mainstream they probably got their stuff from China. Ultimate Orange was the best pre workout supplement ever when it first came out and within a year or so it was obvious they changed the ingredients.
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I think Dan Duchaine started making Ultimate Orange in his garage and EAS was a very small company in Colorado before Phillips bought it. Of course, when those supplements went mainstream they probably got their stuff from China.
EAS was a total bait and switch. They created MuscleMedia2000 as the hardcore magazine, with steroid profiles and hardcore information. This established credibility in the bodybuilding community, once they had that, they became just Muscle Media and had a bullshit mag that hocked EAS. Brilliant marketing. It was also a plan of Dr. Scott Connelly to launch Met-RX. In fact Sylvester Stallone had a part also by allowing EAS to imply he used Met-Rx. Whole thing was bullshit as Scott Connelly was
In early interviews and promotional materials, Connelly marketed himself as a 1973 Harvard Medical School graduate, and claimed he was on the faculty of Stanford Medical School between 1979 and 1986. However, Connelly was only at Harvard as a post-grad "special student" in the 1973-74 academic year. He then got his Doctor of Medicine in anesthesia from Boston University School of Medicine in 1978 and did a one-year Stanford fellowship in 1981. Connelly was an unpaid clinical instructor and was never part of the full-time faculty at Stanford.[11]
I will look into whether that original MET RX was actually made in China and the whole "metamyosin" scam. I traced the research that Connelly claimed he tested Met-Rx on burn patients in a critical state to develop Met-Rx.
However the research was done at Brigham and Women's hospital and this is the abstract of the actual study I believe Met-Rx pretended to use. Brigham and Women's hospital was doing a generic study on hospital bound patients being fed protein to spare body mass. It had NOTHING to do with Met-rx research so Connelly used this BIG STRETCH to say that in a hospital, patients may need more protein into implying that Met-Rx was doing it.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28296670/
And what Connelly left out of the research is that the patients were also given HGH!!!!!!!!
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7922450/
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Manipulated content disguised as an unthinking, independent algorithm is one of our biggest threats.
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EAS was a total bait and switch. They created MuscleMedia2000 as the hardcore magazine, with steroid profiles and hardcore information. This established credibility in the bodybuilding community, once they had that, they became just Muscle Media and had a bullshit mag that hocked EAS. Brilliant marketing. It was also a plan of Dr. Scott Connelly to launch Met-RX. In fact Sylvester Stallone had a part also by allowing EAS to imply he used Met-Rx. Whole thing was bullshit as Scott Connelly was
In early interviews and promotional materials, Connelly marketed himself as a 1973 Harvard Medical School graduate, and claimed he was on the faculty of Stanford Medical School between 1979 and 1986. However, Connelly was only at Harvard as a post-grad "special student" in the 1973-74 academic year. He then got his Doctor of Medicine in anesthesia from Boston University School of Medicine in 1978 and did a one-year Stanford fellowship in 1981. Connelly was an unpaid clinical instructor and was never part of the full-time faculty at Stanford.[11]
I will look into whether that original MET RX was actually made in China and the whole "metamyosin" scam. I traced the research that Connelly claimed he tested Met-Rx on burn patients in a critical state to develop Met-Rx.
However the research was done at Brigham and Women's hospital and this is the abstract of the actual study I believe Met-Rx pretended to use. Brigham and Women's hospital was doing a generic study on hospital bound patients being fed protein to spare body mass. It had NOTHING to do with Met-rx research so Connelly used this BIG STRETCH to say that in a hospital, patients may need more protein into implying that Met-Rx was doing it.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28296670/
And what Connelly left out of the research is that the patients were also given HGH!!!!!!!!
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7922450/
EAS wasn't Phillips company until after MM2K was already in circulation. If I remember right he bought EAS from 2 guys that had a small lab in Colorado. I think they were the first to use creatine as a supplement. After Phillips bought the company he hocked the supplements on MM2K and made millions. It is almost certain he bought the supps from China as there is no way a tiny company could fill thousands (maybe millions) of orders overnight.
Phillips, Connelly, and Duchaine were all shady characters from the start. Any supplement testing that was done was on enhanced trainers including themselves. Duchaine was an unhealthy drug addict who used every steroid or any other drug he could get his hands on and died young. Phillips at least was smart and sold everything to retire to a life of luxury. I remember getting an advertisement for MM2K before the magazine was even in print and getting a subscription immediately. It was the only mag at the time honest about steroid use but even they lied about supplements. What should anyone expect of those in this industry.