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Title: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold - and other gyms too
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 23, 2020, 04:30:37 PM
....but Me and a lot of others are done thanks to that prick, Arnold. Waiting lines outside the gym and mandatory wearing of masks even while training. Why Arnold? Gym reopened last Tuesday he comes in and leaves and said e wasn’t coming back until everyone is wearing a mask. Sure as shit, about 2 days later we get an email saying masks are now mandatory even while training.

He still sits on the Governors board, he was the first one to sign followed by the other two former Governors.

Arnold made Golds, Arnold will take it down. He just alienated most of the bodybuilding industry, especially if it closes
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: deadz on June 23, 2020, 04:34:27 PM
Ruin the World saving the old, sick, and people who never took care of themselves.  ???  ::)
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: IroNat on June 23, 2020, 04:36:37 PM
Arnold is for Arnold.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: The Scott on June 23, 2020, 04:40:25 PM
Fuck that cuck. 
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: TonyAlva on June 23, 2020, 04:42:36 PM
Prefer the 1970s Arnold, the 2020 Arnold? Not so much :(
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: US MUSL on June 23, 2020, 05:16:05 PM
How can you train wearing a mask?!!!
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Fortress on June 23, 2020, 05:41:36 PM
The (j)OAK is a withered has-been with way too much estrogen coursing through his system and a melted brain from decades of brainwashing from his libtard Cali lifestyle and Hollyweird buds.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: JAGO on June 23, 2020, 05:48:56 PM
Doing what an Alpha Male does - forcing his will on others. I do it all the time.

J
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Straw Man on June 23, 2020, 05:52:33 PM
....but Me and a lot of others are done thanks to that prick, Arnold. Waiting lines outside the gym and mandatory wearing of masks even while training. Why Arnold? Gym reopened last Tuesday he comes in and leaves and said e wasn’t coming back until everyone is wearing a mask. Sure as shit, about 2 days later we get an email saying masks are now mandatory even while training.

He still sits on the Governors board, he was the first one to sign followed by the other two former Governors.

Arnold made Golds, Arnold will take it down. He just alienated most of the bodybuilding industry, especially if it closes

.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: stuntmovie on June 23, 2020, 06:05:03 PM
COACH, Arnold had nothing to do with the making of Gold's! He had a lot to do with the popularity of bodybuilding but nothing to do with the eventual success of the Gold's Gym enterprise!

As I recall the facts, Arnold was closely associated with Joe Gold and Zabo and a couple of those other old timers and to the best of my recollection he was loyal to those elderly geezers and seldom stepped foot within the Gold's in Santa Monica  nor the Gold's in Venice once Joe sold it and eventually opened a couple streets south of the present day Gold's.

But when Joe owned his second location within Venice just a bit south of the freeway, Arnold was a member and his name was added on the wall-chart  in which Joe kept track of late paying members.

Do you have any knowledge regarding "The Dungeon"? .... Who owned it? Who ran it?  When did it open? And when did it close down? Who trained there besides Draper? And what businesses occupied the remainder of that building?

Gold's Gym main success was due to the efforts of Peter and Paul Grymkowski and Ed Connors plus one whose name presently escapes me ....  and their invites to the magazine photographers to use  the gym for photo layouts!

Much  more involved ....... but Arnold had little to do with it.


Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Bevo on June 23, 2020, 06:06:29 PM
....but Me and a lot of others are done thanks to that prick, Arnold. Waiting lines outside the gym and mandatory wearing of masks even while training. Why Arnold? Gym reopened last Tuesday he comes in and leaves and said e wasn’t coming back until everyone is wearing a mask. Sure as shit, about 2 days later we get an email saying masks are now mandatory even while training.

He still sits on the Governors board, he was the first one to sign followed by the other two former Governors.

Arnold made Golds, Arnold will take it down. He just alienated most of the bodybuilding industry, especially if it closes


Destination Dallas doesn’t require you to wear masks and even a shirt and pants optional If you are filming  :D
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Fortress on June 23, 2020, 06:08:36 PM
For a long while Arnold worked out only at the Venice World Gym. Not Gold’s.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: The Scott on June 23, 2020, 06:14:52 PM
The (j)OAK is a withered has-been with way too much estrogen coursing through his system and a melted brain from decades of brainwashing from his libtard Cali lifestyle and Hollyweird buds.

Well said, brother.   Especially so the (j)OAK... ;D  I could not have done it better and to be honest, it never occurred to me to do so. 

Superb!
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 23, 2020, 06:15:31 PM
Arnold is nothing but a back stabbing has been piece of shit who loves attention all of his movies the
Past 17 years have been flops. He rigged the 80 and 81 Olympia’s for him and his gay lover columbo
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Bevo on June 23, 2020, 07:03:35 PM
Clint Eastwood endorsed Bloomberg
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: keanu on June 23, 2020, 07:12:45 PM
Arnold is old with a heart condition. Why would he want to catch the virus? He is high risk. The haters can hate, but Arnold is the king.



Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: keanu on June 23, 2020, 07:13:31 PM
....but Me and a lot of others are done thanks to that prick, Arnold. Waiting lines outside the gym and mandatory wearing of masks even while training. Why Arnold? Gym reopened last Tuesday he comes in and leaves and said e wasn’t coming back until everyone is wearing a mask. Sure as shit, about 2 days later we get an email saying masks are now mandatory even while training.

He still sits on the Governors board, he was the first one to sign followed by the other two former Governors.

Arnold made Golds, Arnold will take it down. He just alienated most of the bodybuilding industry, especially if it closes

Drama queen.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Dokey111 on June 23, 2020, 07:20:16 PM
Arnold is nothing but a back stabbing has been piece of shit who loves attention all of his movies the
Past 17 years have been flops. He rigged the 80 and 81 Olympia’s for him and his gay lover columbo

hey potshots
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 23, 2020, 07:25:44 PM
Who the fuck can train with a mask on?  You have more to worry about touching all the handles unless you clean each dumbbell, barbell and attachment handle. Arnold has a full gym in his house I heard. Why does he go into a public gym?
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: tommywishbone on June 23, 2020, 07:34:14 PM
Arnold is a scared little old man. Nothing more.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Primemuscle on June 23, 2020, 07:44:46 PM
Arnold is for Arnold.

Is this a bad thing?
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 23, 2020, 07:52:19 PM
.

I heard you never recovered after your gym closed


https://m.yelp.com/biz/pink-iron-west-hollywood
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: The Scott on June 23, 2020, 07:59:49 PM
Is this a bad thing?

When someone becomes a human version of Napoleon the Pig (Orwell's Animal Farm), then yes. 

Arnold is an egotestical swine.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: The Scott on June 23, 2020, 08:10:24 PM
Who the fuck can train with a mask on?  You have more to worry about touching all the handles unless you clean each dumbbell, barbell and attachment handle. Arnold has a full gym in his house I heard. Why does he go into a public gym?

He goes to a public gym to feed his ego's desire for attention.  To show how woke he be. 

Fuck Arnold to Hades.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Kwon on June 23, 2020, 08:16:48 PM
70s and 80s Arnold is my Arnold, NOT the 2020 one!
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Straw Man on June 23, 2020, 08:21:47 PM
I heard you never recovered after your gym closed


https://m.yelp.com/biz/pink-iron-west-hollywood

LOL - looks like we've found yet another topic you know nothing about.

Unlike you, instead of crying online like a whiny little bitch, I set up a very decent gym in my garage.

Also unlike you, when my gym does open I will gladly wear a mask in order to be able to workout in the gym.  Hopefully whiny little bitches like you will stay home (and no doubt keep whining online).
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Megalodon on June 23, 2020, 08:28:11 PM
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Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Body-Buildah on June 24, 2020, 02:15:01 AM
straw says people are crying yet cries in every political thread posting trump meme's like a 12 yr old.
comical
i see the troll w/ many gimmicks is here talking to himself safely throwing shots while not using his main acct.
very sad individual who thinks hes more clever than most but is really mentally week.

arnie is gay
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Rambone on June 24, 2020, 03:44:02 AM
Arnold must have heavily invested in the mask industry recently. There’s no way he can get sick while eating his vegan diet with extra immune boosting foods. Perpetual opportunist of peace...
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Rambone on June 24, 2020, 03:53:05 AM
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Watching John with the woke machine, it was suddenly so clear. The sperminator, would never stop. It would never impregnate a Guatemalan housekeeper and leave him, and it would never hurt him, never shout at him, or get AIDS and try to fuck him, or say it was too busy to spend time with him. It would always be there. And it would die of COVID-19, to protect him. Of all the would-be fathers who came and went over the years, this thing, this woke machine, was the only one who measured up. In an insane world, it was the sanest choice.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: tatoo on June 24, 2020, 04:10:11 AM
LOL - looks like we've found yet another topic you know nothing about.

Unlike you, instead of crying online like a whiny little bitch, I set up a very decent gym in my garage.

Also unlike you, when my gym does open I will gladly wear a mask in order to be able to workout in the gym.  Hopefully whiny little bitches like you will stay home (and no doubt keep whining online).

lol.. fuckin fag
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Taffin on June 24, 2020, 04:29:50 AM
Arnold is nothing but a back stabbing has been piece of shit who loves attention all of his movies the
Past 17 years have been flops. He rigged the 80 and 81 Olympia’s for him and his gay lover columbo

LOL!  I like to think this is the sort of comment Mad Mike Mentzer would have made if he was still around  ;D
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Taffin on June 24, 2020, 04:30:48 AM
Arnold must have heavily invested in the mask industry recently. There’s no way he can get sick while eating his vegan diet with extra immune boosting foods. Perpetual opportunist of peace...

Bro...  Say it ain't so...  :'(
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: IroNat on June 24, 2020, 04:35:57 AM
COACH, Arnold had nothing to do with the making of Gold's! He had a lot to do with the popularity of bodybuilding but nothing to do with the eventual success of the Gold's Gym enterprise!

As I recall the facts, Arnold was closely associated with Joe Gold and Zabo and a couple of those other old timers and to the best of my recollection he was loyal to those elderly geezers and seldom stepped foot within the Gold's in Santa Monica  nor the Gold's in Venice once Joe sold it and eventually opened a couple streets south of the present day Gold's.

But when Joe owned his second location within Venice just a bit south of the freeway, Arnold was a member and his name was added on the wall-chart  in which Joe kept track of late paying members.

Do you have any knowledge regarding "The Dungeon"? .... Who owned it? Who ran it?  When did it open? And when did it close down? Who trained there besides Draper? And what businesses occupied the remainder of that building?

Gold's Gym main success was due to the efforts of Peter and Paul Grymkowski and Ed Connors plus one whose name presently escapes me ....  and their invites to the magazine photographers to use  the gym for photo layouts!

Much  more involved ....... but Arnold had little to do with it.




Ken Sprague made Gold's.
Joe Gold sold it way back in 1970 to Bud Danitz before anybody knew where Golds Gym was.
Sprague bought it in 1972 and owned it until 1979.
Sprague is responsible for making Golds famous.  All the Pumping Iron stuff happened during his ownership.  He promoted all that.
Sprague moved the gym to its second location.
Grymko and pals bought it from Sprague in 1979 and franchised it.
Joe Gold had nothing to do with any of that.
Joe Gold opened World Gym later 70s.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Dave D on June 24, 2020, 05:04:27 AM
I thought mask wearing was mandatory in all public areas in California?

LA Fitness reopened with requiring masks now they are mandatory. Nothing to do with Arnold.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: funk51 on June 24, 2020, 05:24:15 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Rambone on June 24, 2020, 05:29:27 AM
Bro...  Say it ain't so...  :'(

It is so. It is so bro....
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: funk51 on June 24, 2020, 05:54:33 AM
COACH, Arnold had nothing to do with the making of Gold's! He had a lot to do with the popularity of bodybuilding but nothing to do with the eventual success of the Gold's Gym enterprise!

As I recall the facts, Arnold was closely associated with Joe Gold and Zabo and a couple of those other old timers and to the best of my recollection he was loyal to those elderly geezers and seldom stepped foot within the Gold's in Santa Monica  nor the Gold's in Venice once Joe sold it and eventually opened a couple streets south of the present day Gold's.

But when Joe owned his second location within Venice just a bit south of the freeway, Arnold was a member and his name was added on the wall-chart  in which Joe kept track of late paying members.

Do you have any knowledge regarding "The Dungeon"? .... Who owned it? Who ran it?  When did it open? And when did it close down? Who trained there besides Draper? And what businesses occupied the remainder of that building?

Gold's Gym main success was due to the efforts of Peter and Paul Grymkowski and Ed Connors plus one whose name presently escapes me ....  and their invites to the magazine photographers to use  the gym for photo layouts!

Much  more involved ....... but Arnold had little to do with it.
                          Draper's Dungeon!
Dave Draper
Dave Draper
December 17, 2018 •  9 min read
It was a legendary time of bodybuilding history, and eight-week period in 1970, when, at Joe Gold's original gym in Santa Monica, these men shared their training energy.

Republished with permission from www.davedraper.com. Publication date - 1988
The Dungeon at Muscle Beach was small. There was barely room to move around. Located at the corner of Fourth and Broadway in Santa Monica, California, the Dungeon was a famous hideaway gym for some of bodybuilding's most powerful men. Dark and dirty, the Dungeon was also quite smelly since it was located in a basement below an old hotel that had a taproom.

The California Summers

During the hot California summers, the old beer taps would leak and the brew would eventually make its way through cracks in the floors to the Dungeon. In the winter, when it rained, the walls and floor would also leak and pretty soon, with the rank odors of stale beer and mildew mixing with smells of new and old sweat, the Dungeon had a most unusual aroma. No one who worked out there, though, seemed to mind.

The Dungeon had no fancy equipment. No Universal or Paramount machines and, of course, Nautilus was still nothing but a seashell since we're talking '60s here. There was no daylight in the Dungeon, either. Lighting was provided by four rows of overhead bulbs. Benches weren't padded. Splinters were picked out in the shower. Clothesline served as cables, there wasn't even a hack or leg press machine and most of the stuff teetered on rusty nails and bolts. But, oh, the bodies that came out of the Dungeon!

George Eiferman first brought Dave Draper to the Dungeon in 1962. A neophyte bodyman then, Draper was awed. Steve Reeves used to train there when he came to town. So did Eiferman himself and Zabo and Hugo Labra, Bill McCardle, Gene Shuey and monsters Steve Marjanian and Chuck Ahrens. Later, when Draper came out to California from New Jersey with Joe Weider, he joined the Dungeon - for $48 a year - to heave the odd-weighted dumbbells that made champions.

It has been said that every generation looks back, longing for the good old days. The same is true with our sport. Dave Draper considers the '60s the golden era of bodybuilding, the romantic age of iron when the camaraderie and simplicity of bodybuilding were at their zenith. It was the time when Joe Weider, Trainer of Champions, dubbed Draper the Blond Bomber.

The 60's

Ah yes, the '60s - when Colbert, Ross, Grimek, Reeves, Eiferman and Tanny gave way to Pearl, Park, Scott, Wayne, Oliva, Draper and Schwarzenegger. The way Draper sees it, the golden era of bodybuilding started to wind down when Oliva and Schwarzenegger stopped battling and ended completely when Arnold retired in 1975 after six successive Mr. Olympia wins.

The 70's

By the mid '70s, bodybuilding illusion gave way to bodybuilding reality. Up to this time, anabolic hormones were an "inside tip" and used by an elite clique in limited dosages. The steroid surge of the '70s changed the faces (and livers) of bodybuilders forever. Steroids gave the mediocre their chance for fleeting fame.

Dave Draper misses the old days, the sweet siren call of the '60s. In the days when Joe Weider's Muscle Builder featured the Blond Bomber as everything that a young man could be as a bodybuilder, the iron sport was indeed friendlier, simpler and more romantic in lifestyle, nutrition and training. Could the Dungeon survive today in the age of Cybex and Myotech?

In the '60s, before the extreme emphasis on being ripped to the bone, bodybuilding was fun. There were few hardships, drugs were something Timothy Leary talked about, growth hormone was still buried with the dead. In the '60s bodybuilders lifted heavy weights, but they also lifted heavy, dripping T-bones. They didn't measure their protein powder, they shoveled it in.

The Fundamentals

Nutritional fundamentals could be described in five words, "eat a lot of protein." Draper did - to the tune of 400-500 grams a day. That meant a lot of calories too. Consequently, bodybuilders in the '60s were big and strong. Oliva, Schwarzenegger, Ferrigno, Katz and Draper were the biggest bodybuilders of all time.

As a testament to the simplicity of the '60s compared to today, bodybuilders then talked about Crash Weight Gain #7 and Weider's Super Pro 101. Hell, there was even a lawsuit back then over weight-gain powders! Today, attend a bodybuilding seminar and you'll hear free-form aminos, branched chain aminos, succinates, medium-chained triglycerides, branching glucose polymers, glucogen and sodium loading. You'll hear about such esoteric supplements as Yohimbe bark. Bodybuilders back then knew you got all that stuff in steak, eggs and milk.

Back then the science of anabolic steroids was spelled Dianabol. Today we have designer steroids - ones to add density, others to add size, others to add strength. There's even an Italian one that's supposed to build up individual muscles. Some lulu in Europe even claims to split muscle fibers with electrical probes. Is it any wonder that Dave Draper pines for the '60s?

At the Dungeon, buried beneath that old Santa Monica hotel, from 1963-67, Dave Draper built one of the greatest physiques of all time. He trained with enormous energy expenditure fueled by thousands of calories. He trained six days a week from 6-9 a.m. The Dungeon, which had the rusty vestiges of the old outdoor Muscle Beach equipment, was all a man expected a gym to be.

During the years '63-67, Draper changed from a 260-pound beach ball to a 230-pound bull. In the second contest of his life, the 1965 IFBB Mr. America, he won first place. That alone catapulted him into the Weider hall of fame. In 1966, he entered the IFBB Mr. Universe, his third contest, and won it. He was favored in the '67 Mr. Olympia, but Sergio Oliva took it. There was no doubt that the training Draper did has to be unusual. He built up fast and efficiently with some of the shabbiest equipment allowable by law!

The Training

His Dungeon training was fast, hard and heavy. Almost every set was an attempt at a strength or endurance record. He and his training partner Dick Sweet constantly challenged each other - for the entire three-hour session. Despite the plethora of energy enhancers and drugs available today, I'd venture to guess that most modern-day bodybuilders would over train on Draper's plan. Bodybuilders today don't eat enough fat for long-term energy, their calories are too low and they don't get enough rest and relaxation. By and large they lack patience, too. Besides, the guys in the Dungeon would never have to put up with someone who claimed to be over trained. There was no such thing then.

Draper rotated his body parts so that he trained everything three times a week. On day one he'd work chest, back and shoulders. The next day came abdominals, biceps, triceps and legs. He did an enormous number of sets, from 20-30 per body part. That might mean over 80 sets per workout! Draper field-tested a lot of Joe Weider's ideas before they went into the Weider system, things like supersets and cheating. Draper supersetted nearly his entire program and got plenty massive (it's interesting that Sergio Oliva did the same things and still does today).

For his 54-inch chest (in the 1966 movie, Don't Make Waves, Sharon Tate, later murdered by the Manson family, swooned over it), Draper started with five supersets of collar-to collar benches and close-grip benches. He also used the Weider Pyramid Principle while keeping his reps between 6-8. At this point in his career, he could bench press over 450 pounds and military press 300 pounds. Draper was a strong guy. He had to be with powermongers Ahrens, Casey and Marjanian lurking about the Dungeon.

The Five Supersets

Following five hearty supersets, Draper followed with five more on heavy dumbbell inclines and flat bench flyes. He went up to 150 pounds in his inclines. If you think that's a lot (and it is!), Draper fondly recalls watching Pat Casey do the same exercise with a pair of 220-pound dumbbells. Casey, of course, was the first man to officially bench press 600 pounds. Draper also remembers watching Chuck Ahrens do seated dumbbell presses with a pair of 160-pound dumbbells.

With such inspiration, Draper then proceeded to blitz his phenomenal back, which Arnold called the best in the business. Dave started with five supersets of wide-grip bent-over rows and stiff-arm pullovers for 6-8 reps. Following this he did what some would consider and unusual superset, five sets of behind-the-neck presses with five sets of wide-grip pull-ups.

Here he'd push his reps up to 12 or so. Not finished despite an upsurge of blood equal to the denouement of Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch, Draper had some more supersets to do. This time, five sets of 12-15 in the long pulley row and lat machine pull downs. In both exercises, the Blond Bomber thought nothing of doing his reps with more than 300 pounds!

Having already pre-exhausted his posterior deltoids with rows and behind-the-neck presses, Draper started his shoulder training with 90-degree dumbbell presses without supersetting. He made a point of working up to at least 105s for 6-8 strict repetitions. Next was a conventional Draperism, a superset that was really a compound set (a superset within the same body part). He did five sets of heavy, cheat lateral raises and five sets of strict laterals with his back flush to a wall. On his cheats, he'd use 60s. For his strict laterals, 30s were the order of the day.

Draper was known to have a pair of the biggest delts in bodybuilding. No wonder. Draper and Sweet moved through their heavy training like a Kansas twister through a mobile home park. They wreaked havoc on their bodies, but paid themselves back at the training table.

During his workouts, Draper would never think about outside things. He envisioned himself as a piece of lead, thick and dense. Rest? Draper and Sweet rested only as long as it took them to catch their breath between exercises. That way they didn't have time to think about anything else.

Day two started with abs. Draper always warmed up on this day with a series of supersets between incline sit-ups and leg raises. He not only kept his waist trim by doing this (in the e'60s, the abs and legs were secondary to arms, chest and shoulders) but he also freed himself from outside thought during this time.

Draper started out with biceps training by doing 15 sets, consisting of five sets each of barbell curls (6-8 reps), alternate incline dumbbell curls (6-8 reps) and preacher curls (also called Scott curls, 8-10 reps). He'd finish off with five sets of high-repetition wrist curls, Draper's arms were around 21 inches at his best and his biceps had an amazing peak. However, triceps were his babies.

Draper almost always did 25 sets for those muscles. He started with five supersets of standing overhead triceps extensions with a rope-pulley arrangement and his back supported and conventional triceps pushdowns. He favored reps in the 12-15 range for the best triceps pump. His next superset was lying triceps extensions with the EZ-Curl bar and behind-the-head rope-pulley extensions, both for 10-15 reps.

Draper made it a point to finish his triceps work with parallel bar dips. Although he saw Pat Casey, who weighed 320 pounds, do 10 reps with 300 pounds strapped around his waist, Draper would have not part of that! He did five sets of as many reps as he could with bodyweight alone. That worked well enough.

The Leg Workout

Legs were next. Draper used the Weider Pyramid Principle in the squat for adding mass. Usually he ran through seven or eight sets (not counting his light warm-ups) as follows:

350 lbs. x 10 reps
375 lbs. x 8 reps
400 lbs. x 6 reps
425 lbs. x 4 reps
450 lbs. x 2 reps
350 lbs. x 10 reps
350 lbs. x 10 reps
Following squats, he did 5-6 sets of leg extensions and leg curls with as much weight as he could possible muster for 10-15 repetitions. He'd finish his leg pump with 10 sets of 12-15 reps in the donkey calf raise.

With his intense attitude and heavy training in the Dungeon, Dave molded a worldclass physique in short order. Even though he won both the America and the Universe in his meteoric rise, his exit was just as fast - but that was his choice.

The Thrill

For Dave Draper there was a shift in bodybuilding in the late '60s and early '70s. The thrill was fading rapidly. He says: "Around 1968 I grew disillusioned. I grew up during the romantic era of bodybuilding with people who worked out in the Dungeon. We thought the most important things in life were heavy training, good eating and basking in the sun. In those days, bodybuilders would hitchhike together along the shores for days just to see a contest."

Draper continues: "Attitudes mean a lot to me and they changed drastically. Competitive bodybuilding got complicated. There was too much preoccupation with big muscles and much less camaraderie than before. Things weren't as simple. You used to pose to music selected by the contest promoter. All of a sudden you had to prepare music and routines. I liked it much better before, although I still trained. I put my mind outside of bodybuilding after that."

Draper did go on to win the Mr. Universe in 1970 (after training eight weeks), but it was never the same for him again. He officially retired his legend in 1970.

Draper is at peace with himself today after battling personal demons for years. He's wiser, more mature and in incredible shape. He loves training, but what he cherishes most in life is his self-built home in beautiful Santa Cruz, time with his friends and his memories of the romantic age of bodybuilding. In the golden '60s, when the Blond Bomber was king, he bombed away in the Dungeon and built one of the greatest bodies of all time.

Thanks,

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AceCorona (Sam Orona)
I wish I could go back in a time machine and train with them!

May 9th, 2018
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JordanPrater
A TRUE bodybuilder. Draper & the Golden Era boys appreciated bodybuilding, and they pictured their body as a work of art. It sure has changed.

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Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: stuntmovie on June 24, 2020, 07:55:39 AM
FUNK, Thanks for posting Dave's article. This is the first time I've seen it,. I'll do my best to read it thoroughly ASAP and see if I can offer additional comments that may be of interest as I have met, known, or trained with a good number of the individuals Dave has mentioned.

Thanks again, FUNK! It's always great to get a kick in the memory banks.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 24, 2020, 08:00:58 AM
Then go somewhere else if you don't like it. 

Spending your money at another gym would be a better cause of argument against his rules than whining on a message board.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: stuntmovie on June 24, 2020, 08:30:12 AM
IRON, Thanks for your Gold's Gym history input. I knew/know all the individuals you have mentioned, but BUD DANTZ is a complete mystery to me as I must have been 'far away' at that time, but I do recall a story that may be of interest .... or which you may be able to confirm or deny.

When Joe first sold his gym (to BUD??)  ... he did not realize that he had also sold the rights to the name "GOLD'S GYM" .... and he intended to open another gym using that name once again in some form or another .... thereby initiating a lawsuit ... in which Joe lost ... and hence ... World Gym was born.

And I gotta partially disagree with ya regarding Ken Sprague's importance regarding Gold's ultimate success.

Ken was definitely important in his own way back then and promoted one of the best contests ever seen on the West Coast. It was Mr. America week and it even included
a decent parade with an elephant leading the way.

Mae West was escorted on stage by Bert Goodrich(?) and presented he winner's trophy (was it Dave Johns who won it that night?) and a live orchestra played during the participant's posing routines.

Sprague was one hell of a great promoter but in my humble opinion the real success of Gold's Gym occurred when Grymko and pals bought it from Sprague in 1979 and FRANCHISED IT!

And actually Sprague moved the gym to its third location ... not its second location as you so mentioned.

But I may be he only individual remaining on this planet  who can claim that it was actually Gold's Gym 4th location. (More on that if there is any interest.)

Thanks again, IRON, but what ever happened to BUD DANTZ and who the hell was he?

PS ... DAVE SAXE was also involved when Gold's was purchased from Joe Gold for $50,000 if I recall correctly.





Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Desolate on June 24, 2020, 08:54:37 AM
Watching John with the woke machine, it was suddenly so clear. The sperminator, would never stop. It would never impregnate a Guatemalan housekeeper and leave him, and it would never hurt him, never shout at him, or get AIDS and try to fuck him, or say it was too busy to spend time with him. It would always be there. And it would die of COVID-19, to protect him. Of all the would-be fathers who came and went over the years, this thing, this woke machine, was the only one who measured up. In an insane world, it was the sanest choice.

LOL! ;D
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Dave D on June 24, 2020, 09:14:33 AM
Watching John with the woke machine, it was suddenly so clear. The sperminator, would never stop. It would never impregnate a Guatemalan housekeeper and leave him, and it would never hurt him, never shout at him, or get AIDS and try to fuck him, or say it was too busy to spend time with him. It would always be there. And it would die of COVID-19, to protect him. Of all the would-be fathers who came and went over the years, this thing, this woke machine, was the only one who measured up. In an insane world, it was the sanest choice.

Missed this.

Good work!
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: njflex on June 24, 2020, 09:33:12 AM
DRAPER...was not in my era of  starting training but that was a great read.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Straw Man on June 24, 2020, 10:00:21 AM
straw says people are crying yet cries in every political thread posting trump meme's like a 12 yr old.
comical
i see the troll w/ many gimmicks is here talking to himself safely throwing shots while not using his main acct.
very sad individual who thinks hes more clever than most but is really mentally week.

arnie is gay

feel free to bump any thread where you think I'm "crying"

remember to look at our phony coaches posts about Golds so you have an example of what actual crying and whining looks like

Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 24, 2020, 11:00:03 AM
I overtrained reading that Draper article. :-[ :-[  Good read.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: funk51 on June 24, 2020, 11:14:49 AM
DRAPER...was not in my era of  starting training but that was a great read.
dave
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: funk51 on June 24, 2020, 11:16:15 AM
 :o better times
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Megalodon on June 24, 2020, 11:32:31 AM
Watching John with the woke machine, it was suddenly so clear. The sperminator, would never stop. It would never impregnate a Guatemalan housekeeper and leave him, and it would never hurt him, never shout at him, or get AIDS and try to fuck him, or say it was too busy to spend time with him. It would always be there. And it would die of COVID-19, to protect him. Of all the would-be fathers who came and went over the years, this thing, this woke machine, was the only one who measured up. In an insane world, it was the sanest choice.

Arnold is onboard for the musical.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2020, 12:03:39 PM
Just to clear things up, when I said Arnold built Golds I didn’t mean literally build it. I know it’s history. I meant when you hear the name “Golds gym” almost everyone associates with Arnold, and yes, I was at Worlds in Santa Monica when Joe owned it as well. Same plane where he trained when he made his comeback at the 80’ Olympia.
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: joswift on June 24, 2020, 12:04:04 PM
Arnold is old with a heart condition. Why would he want to catch the virus? He is high risk. The haters can hate, but Arnold is the king.


he has a home gym the stupid old twat
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: njflex on June 24, 2020, 12:09:14 PM
dave
LOL,,,I REMEMBER HIM ESP IN 80'S MUSCLE FITNESS WHEN HE WAS SUPER RIPPED BUT SMALLER,,,
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: IroNat on June 24, 2020, 12:21:14 PM
IRON, Thanks for your Gold's Gym history input. I knew/know all the individuals you have mentioned, but BUD DANTZ is a complete mystery to me as I must have been 'far away' at that time, but I do recall a story that may be of interest .... or which you may be able to confirm or deny.

When Joe first sold his gym (to BUD??)  ... he did not realize that he had also sold the rights to the name "GOLD'S GYM" .... and he intended to open another gym using that name once again in some form or another .... thereby initiating a lawsuit ... in which Joe lost ... and hence ... World Gym was born.

And I gotta partially disagree with ya regarding Ken Sprague's importance regarding Gold's ultimate success.

Ken was definitely important in his own way back then and promoted one of the best contests ever seen on the West Coast. It was Mr. America week and it even included
a decent parade with an elephant leading the way.

Mae West was escorted on stage by Bert Goodrich(?) and presented he winner's trophy (was it Dave Johns who won it that night?) and a live orchestra played during the participant's posing routines.

Sprague was one hell of a great promoter but in my humble opinion the real success of Gold's Gym occurred when Grymko and pals bought it from Sprague in 1979 and FRANCHISED IT!

And actually Sprague moved the gym to its third location ... not its second location as you so mentioned.

But I may be he only individual remaining on this planet  who can claim that it was actually Gold's Gym 4th location. (More on that if there is any interest.)

Thanks again, IRON, but what ever happened to BUD DANTZ and who the hell was he?

PS ... DAVE SAXE was also involved when Gold's was purchased from Joe Gold for $50,000 if I recall correctly.


Sprague converted the original Gold's Gym into his personal home.

(https://i0.wp.com/physicalculturestudy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/golden-age-legends-part-1-exclusive-q-a-with-golden-age-greats_j.jpg)

He owned the gym when it moved to its second location in Santa Monica.

Yes, Grymko and pals did franchise the gym and make the big money but without Sprague there would have been no famous Gold's Gym for Grymko to franchise, no Gold's t-shirt (drawn by Ric Drasin during that time). 

No Elvis...no Graceland.

Gold's became the Mecca for Bodybuilding during Sprague's ownership.

Gold's would have closed and been turned into an antique shop if Sprague had not bought it and promoted it.

Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 24, 2020, 12:36:41 PM
It would have been awesome to train there in the 70's.  Vince's gym would have been awesome as well. 
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: hench on June 24, 2020, 12:37:51 PM
Doctor on tv this morning was explaining just how quickly and efficiently the virus would spread in a gym. Lucky they are open so a mask isn't too much of a compromise
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2020, 01:09:24 PM
Doctor on tv this morning was explaining just how quickly and efficiently the virus would spread in a gym. Lucky they are open so a mask isn't too much of a compromise

It’s always detrimental When you’re taking in carbon dioxide. Let the virus run it’s course
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: funk51 on June 24, 2020, 01:38:28 PM
coach is going to topple Arnold's statue for this transgression of gym etiquette.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Vince B on June 24, 2020, 04:56:32 PM
Can you believe I actually went to Golds Gym in 1969 on my honeymoon in May/June! Joe took Roz to the beach while I had a workout. I knew Seymour Koenig when he wrestled in Vancouver and hung around English Bay Beach.

Well, Seymour told me Joe wanted to sell the gym for $50,000. I was interested as I always wanted to own a gym. When Joe returned I told him I was interested. When I asked if he would finance me he gave

me a real dirty look and that was the end of that dream. According to Ken Sprague the gym didn't make a profit in those days partly because there were too many champs training for free. So Ken had to figure out

other ways to make a profit and one idea was to use the gym to recruit guys for his adult movie business! Anyway, the guys who bought the gym from Joe in 69-70 didn't make any money so sold the gym to Ken.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on June 24, 2020, 05:46:55 PM



 

   other ways to make a profit and one idea was to use the gym to recruit guys for his adult movie business!



Have U act in any of them  ;D
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Desolate on June 24, 2020, 05:53:43 PM
You shouldn't be surprised, Coach.

Arnold is for Arnold.

He will sell out everything or anyone if it means attention for him.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Straw Man on June 24, 2020, 05:54:12 PM
It’s always detrimental When you’re taking in carbon dioxide. Let the virus run it’s course

Maybe the owner would prefer not to have his customers/members get sick and possibly die

If the mask requirement keeps whining little bitches like you out of the gym then I hope they make it a permanent thing

Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Straw Man on June 24, 2020, 05:59:15 PM
You shouldn't be surprised, Coach.

Arnold is for Arnold.

He will sell out everything or anyone if it means attention for him.

sounds exactly like Trumptard

Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Desolate on June 24, 2020, 06:03:55 PM
I've never seen one man so obsessed with another man. ???

Straw, I am really starting to think you might be a homosexual.

Remember, hate is not the opposite of love.

Indifference is.

(https://i.postimg.cc/k4TFWbR2/you-love-me-gp73k5.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on June 24, 2020, 06:14:21 PM
I've never seen one man so obsessed with another man. ???

Straw, I am really starting to think you might be a homosexual.

Remember, hate is not the opposite of love.

Indifference is.




 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Straw Man on June 24, 2020, 07:05:32 PM
I've never seen one man so obsessed with another man. ???

Straw, I am really starting to think you might be a homosexual.

Remember, hate is not the opposite of love.

Indifference is.

(https://i.postimg.cc/k4TFWbR2/you-love-me-gp73k5.jpg)

I love my country (not sure where you're from) which I why I and a majority of this country want the FAT ORANGE MORON TRAITOR to be gone

Since you like funny picture of Trump here is one for you with an actual quote from your hero

Pathetic how you idiots worship a guy who brags about being a whiner and calls himself a "Fabulous Whiner"

I assume you're teaching your children that's this is a important trait to cultivate in life

Maybe this is the reason our phony coach is such a whiny little bitch
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 24, 2020, 07:15:50 PM
Strawman is verifiably psychotic. Seek help.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: The Scott on June 24, 2020, 07:17:37 PM
Ah yes...Straw Man.  The typical communist in that he knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.  Save his own (worthless) ego.

It's good you have that ego because no one here or in the real world likes you.  No one.

Soymalian scum.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Straw Man on June 24, 2020, 07:25:56 PM
Ah yes...Straw Man.  The typical communist in that he knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.  Save his own (worthless) ego.

It's good you have that ego because no one here or in the real world likes you.  No one.

Soymalian scum.

Aren't you the whiny bitch that insisted I give you "my stuff" when you saw my garage gym

Have you ever worked for yourself  or have you always been an employee or lived off government assistance?

BTW - I'm 100% Italian American and there is no such word as "Soymalian"

Since you sit on your ass all day doing nothing but whining the least you can do it learn how to spell correctly for your racist tirades
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Desolate on June 24, 2020, 07:26:46 PM
I love my country (not sure where you're from) which I why I and a majority of this country want the FAT ORANGE MORON TRAITOR to be gone

You're on the left.

Therefore, there is no way that you love this country.

If you truly think you do, then you are on the wrong side.

You need to reevaluate.

Pathetic how you idiots worship a guy who brags about being a whiner and calls himself a "Fabulous Whiner"

I assume you're teaching your children that's this is a important trait to cultivate in life

Maybe this is the reason our phony coach is such a whiny little bitch

Are you seriously going to sit back and say that the left (yourself included) have not been a collective bunch of whiners? Seriously?
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: TheShape. on June 24, 2020, 07:42:55 PM
Has any of these homo politicians tried working out in a mask or even working 8 hours in one? Also Arnold needs to up the dose already and stop being a liberal pussy
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: AbrahamG on June 24, 2020, 08:24:43 PM
Arnold is numero uno.

E/T
Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: Rusty Trombone on June 24, 2020, 08:44:53 PM
70s and 80s Arnold is my Arnold, NOT the 2020 one!

Arnold is most probably a lifelong closeted homosexual. Great role model from the 70s.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Vince B on June 24, 2020, 08:56:26 PM
Arnold is clued into what is happening re the virus. USA, Brazil and Mexico are currently losing about 1000 people each day through the virus.

Have a look at the chart for countries. It updates re UK time so click on the last day to see what happened around the world.

USA has had over 124,000 people die from the virus. Compare that to Australia with 104 deaths. Yet in Australia state borders are closed for most of Australia.

I hate to see gyms close but the reality is things are still dangerous. Older guys like Arnold and myself have to be extra careful. I have no idea why he would

even go to Golds at the moment. Still too risky.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2020, 10:03:58 PM
Maybe the owner would prefer not to have his customers/members get sick and possibly die

If the mask requirement keeps whining little bitches like you out of the gym then I hope they make it a permanent thing

Typical Marxist thinking. Kill the economy, kill jobs, kill people’s businesses over a Plannedemic. Again, you prove yourself once again to be the boards village idiot
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2020, 10:05:30 PM
I love my country (not sure where you're from) which I why I and a majority of this country want the FAT ORANGE MORON TRAITOR to be gone

Since you like funny picture of Trump here is one for you with an actual quote from your hero

Pathetic how you idiots worship a guy who brags about being a whiner and calls himself a "Fabulous Whiner"

I assume you're teaching your children that's this is a important trait to cultivate in life

Maybe this is the reason our phony coach is such a whiny little bitch

Shut up stupid. You’ve been (and the rest of lamestream media) have been debunked so many times you’re too stupid to even realize it. Did I mention you’re a proven Marxist?
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Tapeworm on June 24, 2020, 10:30:02 PM
Arnold is clued into what is happening re the virus. USA, Brazil and Mexico are currently losing about 1000 people each day through the virus.

Have a look at the chart for countries. It updates re UK time so click on the last day to see what happened around the world.

USA has had over 124,000 people die from the virus. Compare that to Australia with 104 deaths. Yet in Australia state borders are closed for most of Australia.

I hate to see gyms close but the reality is things are still dangerous. Older guys like Arnold and myself have to be extra careful. I have no idea why he would

even go to Golds at the moment. Still too risky.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Did he wear a mask when he sodomized your babysitter?
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: stuntmovie on June 25, 2020, 09:42:17 AM
IRON, I can't deny that Sprague played a significant role in the success of Gold's Gym but I will say that Gold's Gym was not a major success until  Pete and Ed and ? bought it and started the franchise which I believe (not positive)  that Pete's brother, Paul, initiated.

But even when they originally purchased the gym from Sprague it was not a successful enterprise.

Pete once stated that if it was not for their T-shirt sales.... the business would have failed.

And if it was not for that small bench that was placed by that front window, the T-shirt  sales would have failed.

Those T-shirts were the cornerstone!

Pete said that people would walk off the street into the gym and have a seat on that bench and watch the lifting shit going on ....

And then they'd get up to leave .... but most would buy a Gold's Gym T-shirt before walking back out onto the street again.

Pete may have been exaggerating a bit but it seemed that he was saying that the T-shirt sales income was the income that kept them in business initially.

What's really interesting about all of this ..... Is Peter's pre and post Gold's Gym story .... Which I personally believe would make one hell of an interesting movie!

In fact it would be a BLOCKBUSTER!

And it should be made before all these principal characters and some of the UN-usual suspects pass away!

Hopefully someone is keeping track and writing it down!



Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Primemuscle on June 25, 2020, 01:04:23 PM
It’s always detrimental When you’re taking in carbon dioxide. Let the virus run it’s course

If you aren't concerned about catching the virus and possibly becoming very sick or even dying as a result and that was the only risk in your not wearing a mask, letting the virus run its course might make sense. The problem with this thinking is wearing a mask is as much for the protection of others as it is for yours. Is there no one in your life who you care about besides yourself? What if by running it's course people you love die? Would you feel at all responsible.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Primemuscle on June 25, 2020, 01:17:50 PM
When the gym I frequent reopened a few weeks back, I was very excited to go there. When I did, all the staff people were wearing masks, which was great and reassuring. Unfortunately, I was the only person working out who wore a mask. I haven't been back.

Earlier this week governor Brown mandated everyone wear masks when out in public while indoors or in any other situation where close proximity is unavoidable. When I went to the store last night a sign on the entrance read that everyone entering must wear a mask. The only people exempt from this are those who have a disability which makes wearing a mask detrimental to their health. I am claustrophobic. When I first tried wearing a mask, I felt as if I couldn't breathe. I got past it.
 
 
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 25, 2020, 02:07:48 PM
If you aren't concerned about catching the virus and possibly becoming very sick or even dying as a result and that was the only risk in your not wearing a mask, letting the virus run its course might make sense. The problem with this thinking is wearing a mask is as much for the protection of others as it is for yours. Is there no one in your life who you care about besides yourself? What if by running it's course people you love die? Would you feel at all responsible.

I’m not stopping others from wearing a mask if it makes them feel better. Hell, I sell them but if someone asked if they should wear one while training I say no. The gym that I moved to requires us to wear them while checking in along with a temperature check, no big deal, I’ll comply but when I’m training I’m not wearing it.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: tommywishbone on June 25, 2020, 02:09:40 PM
Mike Mentzer and Mildred were right-  fuck Arnold.  He's a scared old man.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Rambone on June 25, 2020, 02:16:01 PM
Mike Mentzer and Mildred were right-  fuck Arnold.  He's a scared old man.

 :D

Took me a second. Classic maid name.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 25, 2020, 02:50:01 PM
Arnold is a piece of shit he has to make everything about him
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: The Scott on June 25, 2020, 03:46:27 PM
I’m not stopping others from wearing a mask if it makes them feel better. Hell, I sell them but if someone asked if they should wear one while training I say no. The gym that I moved to requires us to wear them while checking in along with a temperature check, no big deal, I’ll comply but when I’m training I’m not wearing it.
Well said.

I just tried training with a mask on in my garage. It was very restricting and made it more difficult to train than one might expect. 

Well, not really.  Anyone that exercises knows that if you train hard, you breathe harder.  A mask makes it stupid hard and that being unnecessarily so.  Arnold is an attention slut.  He is worried about going the way of the Dodo and while that's understandable, he has zero business forcing his fear upon reasoning adults.

He screwed over his family with his fuck-a-pig ways and now seeks the acceptance of the Democucks to salve his ego.   I hope he gets Covid and assumes room temperature.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 25, 2020, 03:49:03 PM
Haven’t read through the whole thread but why would Arnold even need to go to a gym? The guy is worth nine figures, drop 50 grand on a home gym.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: The Scott on June 25, 2020, 03:57:00 PM
*CRICKETS*  from the quisling known as Straw Man.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: IroNat on June 25, 2020, 04:17:32 PM
Coach,

Start a gofundme to build your home gym.

You'd probably raise a couple hundred K.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Primemuscle on June 25, 2020, 05:28:49 PM
Well said.

I just tried training with a mask on in my garage. It was very restricting and made it more difficult to train than one might expect. 

Well, not really.  Anyone that exercises knows that if you train hard, you breathe harder.  A mask makes it stupid hard and that being unnecessarily so.  Arnold is an attention slut.  He is worried about going the way of the Dodo and while that's understandable, he has zero business forcing his fear upon reasoning adults.

He screwed over his family with his fuck-a-pig ways and now seeks the acceptance of the Democucks to salve his ego.   I hope he gets Covid and assumes room temperature.

You are right about one thing, the harder one trains the harder they breathe. The harder one breathes the further their virus contaminated breath travels. Wear the damn mask or don't go out in public.

As of Wednesday, Oregon's governor mandated wearing masks in public settings. I went to Lowe's today to buy a new cushion for the chaise-lounge. I saw no one not wearing a mask. I went to Safeway and the liquor store last night and observed the same thing. Just checked Oregon City gym's website and here is the latest update from them.

"What to know about the new face mask rule:

Beginning June 24, it is required that face masks must be worn in public indoor buildings.

Per the new Oregon Health Authority guidelines, masks are not required when at a business and engaged in an activity that makes wearing a mask not feasible, such as strenuous exercise, if at least 6 feet of distance is maintained from others.

Please wear your mask as you enter and exit the gym, but feel free to remove it in accordance to the above mentioned guidelines.

Thank you - your cooperation helps keep us in business! ❤️​"

Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on June 25, 2020, 05:49:52 PM


BTW - I'm 100% Italian American and there is no such word as "Soymalian"



Fat ass BS, left can't live without soy latte !.

A U from village of Corleone  ;D
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: IroNat on June 25, 2020, 05:54:02 PM
I can't see how you could work out in a gym wearing a mask.
And if you are concerned about Covid stay away from gyms and protests.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: IroNat on June 25, 2020, 05:55:42 PM
Straw,
What kind of business do you own?
Is it dependent on government largess?
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: The Scott on June 25, 2020, 08:29:09 PM
Aren't you the whiny bitch that insisted I give you "my stuff" when you saw my garage gym

Have you ever worked for yourself  or have you always been an employee or lived off government assistance?

BTW - I'm 100% Italian American and there is no such word as "Soymalian"

Since you sit on your ass all day doing nothing but whining the least you can do it learn how to spell correctly for your racist tirades

Actually, I am one of those that complimented you on your home gym and then jokingly (and you already knew this) said you should give it to me.  But again.  You knew this. "Insisted".  What a fucking retard you are.  You are in the barrel along with select others here.

Here is the post you so obviously cannot begin to fathom wherein you claim I "insist" that you give me your "stuff":
That's an excellent home gym, vastly superior to what I have.  I hereby DEMAND Equipmental Equality and invoke the little known and rarely used "Gimme Yo' Shit Act of 2020"! 

Not really. I cannot stand your politics but you have superb taste in fitting out a gym. Well done, sir.

You really do have no friends...

I do have difficulty spelling and sometimes I don't carefully check prior to posting.  I am not smart.  I have worked all my life since I was a child as a laborer and a fork lift driver.  Further more, I've picked all manner of vegetables and fruits from fields and orchards from being a child to a teenager.  I worked for myself and my family and it was honest work. 

I am American.  You are not.  I despise hyphenating one's allegiance to our Nation as did President Theodore Roosevelt. You will ignore this because Teddy was  Republican. 

Oh wait!  You failed to include the "hyphen".  Talk about "spelling"...

I am of the human race, fuckwit.  You are a cuck and I despise your kind.  "Racist tirades".  Typical baseless attacks from a cuckolded  maroon.  When all else fails, fail some more, eh asshole?

By the way you senseless slob, "Soymalian" is a play on words.  It combines Soy with Somalian.  Does this 80 point IQ need to further explain the biting humor in that? 

You have been bested again.  Oh how one can almost hear the weeping and gnashing of your dentures at the outright shame of being so easily belittled by someone such as I.

If it makes you "feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel" better, you could easily beat me in a foot race.  ;D  No one and I mean NO ONE, likes you. 

Soymalian. Typist.  Cuckold.  Turd-Worlder. Fuck Your Noise, ace.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: IroNat on June 26, 2020, 03:41:31 AM
Scott kicking' azz.

You da man, Scott.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: tommywishbone on June 26, 2020, 10:23:41 AM
When the gym I frequent reopened a few weeks back, I was very excited to go there. When I did, all the staff people were wearing masks, which was great and reassuring. Unfortunately, I was the only person working out who wore a mask. I haven't been back.

Earlier this week governor Brown mandated everyone wear masks when out in public while indoors or in any other situation where close proximity is unavoidable. When I went to the store last night a sign on the entrance read that everyone entering must wear a mask. The only people exempt from this are those who have a disability which makes wearing a mask detrimental to their health. I am claustrophobic. When I first tried wearing a mask, I felt as if I couldn't breathe. I got past it.

Lopranzi's across the river in Portland!   Love that place. Love it!
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: The Scott on June 26, 2020, 04:56:36 PM
Scott kicking' azz.

You da man, Scott.

Thank you, brother!
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: funk51 on June 27, 2020, 06:50:38 AM
Lopranzi's across the river in Portland!   Love that place. Love it!
                                   loprinzi's gym is still in business ?               Sam Loprinzi

Born January 22, 1913

Died October 12, 1996

1945

Mr America - AAU, Did not place
Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 2nd

1946

Mr America - AAU, 2nd
Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Most Muscular Man in America, 3rd
Most Muscular Man in America, Short, 1st

Magazines

Vol 4, Num 6   IronMan
1935 April   Vol 3, Num 5   Strength and Health
1945 March       Strength and Health
1946 June       Strength and Health
1954 March   Vol 17, Num 2   Muscle Power
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Gregzs on June 27, 2020, 10:07:14 AM
                                   loprinzi's gym is still in business ?               Sam Loprinzi



I didn't see anywhere who owns the gym now. I guess either his kids or those of his brothers.


https://www.facebook.com/LoprinzisGym/

The Story of Sam Loprinzi – “Iron Man” Ed. (1963)

https://foundationsofiron.com/2018/03/16/the-story-of-sam-loprinzi-iron-man-ed-1963/?fbclid=IwAR1I1GNlMVrGil_f6lZ1wbfrFCG94yAvrckRl_tAmFpsiXMCyAkOOz8Sh3I
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: funk51 on June 27, 2020, 11:59:05 AM
2018 marks the 70th anniversary of the classic Loprinzi’s Gym in Portland, OR, USA! Inspired by a recent visit to Loprinzi’s, today we feature a profile of the gym’s late founder and strength and physique athlete Sam Loprinzi (1913-1996), which originally appeared in the February 1963 issue of “Iron Man” magazine and was written by the editor.

We are also supplying a copy of the original article to the current staff of Loprinzi’s Gym, in honor of the gym’s 70th anniversary! Loprinzi’s is a rare and special kind of old-school weight training facility which has been in business since 1948. We will feature some of our recent photos of Loprinzi’s next week, right here at FOUNDATIONS OF IRON.

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Photos of Sam Loprinzi which accompanied the article below; on the left at age 25 with his “Most Muscular” trophy from the Mr. America 1946 contest, and on the right displaying his physique at age 50. Click to enlarge (opens in new window/tab).

Sam Loprinzi and his brothers could be described as the American Pacific Northwest region’s claim to fame in the iron game of the mid-twentieth century.

The Loprinzis were a large Italian-American family, and many of their descendants still live in the area today. From the 1930s to the 1950s and beyond, brothers Sam, Joe, Gus and Phillip were very active in the iron game. The Loprinzi family’s physical culture legacy lives on, as the gym that Sam Loprinzi founded in 1948 with the help of his brothers is still an active and vibrant neighborhood workout center with an unbeatable old-school atmosphere.

The article below highlights how it is possible to remain in vigorous good shape even as we get older, including a glimpse into Sam Loprinzi’s nutrition and exercise program. His workouts included one day a week of heavy lifting at lower volume in a classic “5×5” schema, and two days of higher volume at lower poundages, as well as high-volume abdominal work every single day along with aerobic and flexibility work. Many of today’s fitness experts might deride so much abdominal exercise as “overtraining,” but the results of Sam’s exercise regimen speak for themselves in the accompanying photographs.

Further reading/reference on the Loprinzi family (opens in new window/tab): http://www.italoamericano.org/story/2016-3-9/loprinzi

Sam Loprinzi, 1913-1996 (opens in new window/tab): https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/928866/sam-d.-loprinzi

Further information on Loprinzi’s Gym, including hours and rates (opens in new window/tab): http://www.loprinzisgym.com/

Magazine excerpt:

As Good At Fifty As At Twenty-Five

The Story Of Sam Loprinzi

I first met Sam Loprinzi at the Mr America contest in Detroit in 1946 where this man with such an outstanding physique won first place in the “Most Muscular Man” contest and was second to Alan Stephan in the Mr. America contest. I was amazed at his magnificent physique, for he had tremendous size for his height and weight of 160 lbs., and he had unusual definition and shape. Sam probably would have won the Mr. America title had he continued entering. He preferred to turn professional and open his own gym, which he operates in Portland, Oregon.

Sam was born in Portland on January 22, 1913. He had a large family of brothers and sisters, all of whom were barbell trained and some of them were outstanding in physique and strength. His father owned a fruit and vegetable truck which probably contributed to Sam’s good health and robust physique. He became interested in barbell work and physical training when about 13. His father added a little room off their garage which soon became the training center for the neighborhood, including his brothers, cousins, and friends. Not having enough money for regular iron weights, they made their first weights out of cement filled cans fastened on the ends of pipes, brooms stcks [sic], etc.

At times the temperature would be 30 or 40 degrees and then they would wear sweaters to keep them warm, since there was no heat in their little gym. At 13, when Sam started his training, he was of average strength and weight, with measurements of 12 1/2 arms, 39 chest, 28 waist, 20 thigh and 13 1/2 calves. His training program consisted of curls, presses, chins, high pulls, supine presses, squats and dead lifts, and he never figures he had any training problems that time and hard work wouldn’t overcome. Sam exercised because he enjoyed it and he put his whole heart into his workouts.

He used to get up at 3 o’clock and go to the market to help his father buy produce, then run like mad back home and train from 5 a.m. to 7 a.m., then run back to the market to help on the delivery route. You can see that this was a rugged life but one that Sam thrived on and it gave him a terrific constitution. He developed great endurance as well as strength and a fine physique.

While in high school he did quite a lot of amateur wrestling and also boxed, swam and ran. He still swims twice a week and runs three times a week, summer and winter.

During the war, Sam and his brother, Joe, taught weight training at Treasure Island. Sam has done a lot of hand balancing and, for a time, traveled as a professional balancer but did not like to travel, so quit.

When Sam first started his training he followed the only known system at that time, which was one set of 8 to 10 reps in each exercise. Later he followed the set system, doing three and four sets of each exercise for 8 to 10 repetitions.

Sam says, “My favorite exercises are the good old stand bys: presses overhead, squats, power cleans, bench press, two arm curls, and dead lifts. Of course, I do my abdominal work every day. I exercise every Monday, Wednesday and Friday morning. On those mornings I do 100 situps and 200 leg raises along with my regular exercises. Then on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday mornings I still do 100 situps and 200 leg raises. Sometimes I’m not in the mood, but I do them anyway. I also do hand-stand press-ups during my three training periods a week, four and five sets of 8 to 10 reps. On Mondays and Wednesdays I do 3 and 4 sets of each exercise with 8 to 10 reps. Then on Fridays (my heaviest day) I do 5 sets of 5 reps each exercise. After each training period I do a group of Yoga exercises and then I run a mile.

“As for my diet, I eat plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables and lean meat. I take vitamins C and E every day. Before each training session I mix up a high protein drink made with orange juice, banana, honey, brewers yeast and 90% protein powder. I then take a large spoon of wheat germ oil.”

Today, at the age of 50, Sam has the same measurements that he had when he won the Most Muscular Man in America title–chest 47, arms 17, waist 31, thighs 23, calves 15 and neck 17. His weight remains the same at 160 lbs. at a height of about 5’7″. His weight has varied but little over the years, and his heaviest bodyweight, to our knowledge, has not been over 170. His best lifts are: bench press 310, military press 220, squat 425, dead lift 550, clean and jerk 270, and snatch 200.

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A photo of Sam loprinzi in his gym, which accompanied the article. Click to enlarge (opens in new window/tab)

Today Sam Loprinzi owns and operates one of the finest gyms in the country. Four years ago he built his own building and has since enlarged it and recently built an apartment for living quarters above it that he might be closer to his work, but still maintain his privacy. You will see photos of this beautiful place in this issue. The studio is located at 4110 S.E. Caruthers St., Portland, Oregon.

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A photo of Helen Loprinzi, Sam’s wife, which accompanied the article. Click to enlarge (opens in new window/tab)

Sam met Helen Smith in 1945 in the California Health Studio. She had been training with weights at the Baptiste gym for a year and so she and Sam had much in common and soon married, and now have two girls, one 12 and the other 8. It is a very happy and successful family and Sam has proven, as you can see from the photos with this article, that a man can maintain outstanding physical condition until 50 and after. He feels he is in just as good a shape as ever, and hopes to continue to keep in top shape for many years to come. Sam Loprinzi is one of the most respected men in the business today and we are proud to bring his story to our readers.

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Photos of Sam Loprinzi demonstrating his workout program, which accompanied the article. Click to enlarge (opens in new window/tab).

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CONOR HEFFERNAN
March 16, 2018 / 9:00 am
Very jealous you got to visit the current gym – looking forward to seeing the pics next week!

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JOSH AT FOUNDATIONSOFIRON
March 16, 2018 / 9:35 am
It’s such a great gym! It’s an almost two-and-a-half-hour drive from where I live, but I try to go a few times a year.

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CONOR HEFFERNAN
March 16, 2018 / 11:20 am
Same as myself – I make a few pilgrimages to the few long lasting gyms here. It’s always worth a visit.

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JOSH AT FOUNDATIONSOFIRON
March 19, 2018 / 1:59 pm
And the photo essay of Loprinzi’s Gym in 2018 is now live!
Link: https://foundationsofiron.wordpress.com/2018/03/19/a-tour-of-loprinzis-gym-70th-anniversary-2018-a-photo-essay/

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JOE HAYES
January 4, 2020 / 9:20 pm
I worked out with Sam when I was in High School in the seventies. I had a knee injury and after surgery I worked out with him and doing what he said I came back to football stronger, heavier and running a constant 4.3 forty. He taught me how to effectively and safely use weights to accomplish what I needed to come back from that injury. He was an amazing man !!!

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JOSH AT FOUNDATIONSOFIRON
April 22, 2020 / 2:13 pm
Great experience, Mr. Hayes. Thank you for sharing that!

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Title: Re: I love Golds Venice
Post by: thebrink on July 02, 2020, 06:36:22 PM
Is this a bad thing?

It is when he walks into a public gym and wants everyone to wear a mask because he's to selfish to stay home and train at home in his million dollar facility. The liberals have alold of his brain too.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 03, 2020, 04:57:42 AM
How can anyone who trains hard, do it with a mask over mouth/nose? not talking twink 'working-out' sitting on machines like primetard, im talking heavy deads, squats, rows moving real weight? planet fatness mentality overtaking gyms across the nation, thanks to the weak minded cuck governors and their wimpy scared supporters.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: JAGO on July 03, 2020, 08:29:57 AM
Loprinzi’s Gym in Portland, OR, USA!  - MY DREAM GYM.

J
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: The Scott on July 03, 2020, 08:43:08 AM
Some, like Arnold, who have been placed upon a pedestal by the public, begin to look down on those same people as being somehow beneath them.  Arnold has become an egotestical pile of shit.

Fuck arnold and all cucks and quislings.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: The Scott on July 03, 2020, 09:46:01 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=666641.0;attach=1255635;image)
He bears a strong resemblance to Harold Zinkin, shown below.


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Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Ron on July 03, 2020, 11:52:36 PM

New Rules in Los Angeles County on July 1st...

Gymgoers in Los Angeles County now have to wear face coverings and gloves the entire time they’re at fitness facilities, health officials announced Wednesday. “Patrons must be warned to only do exercises to the extent they can breathe comfortably while wearing a face covering over both their nose and mouth at all times,” the L.A. County Department of Public Health said.

BUT - The World Health Organization released guidance on June 16, 2020, that people shouldn't wear face masks while exercising because it could reduce the ability to breathe comfortably, noting that the most important factor in preventing disease spread is distancing yourself from others.



So who is making the rules here - politicians or health scientists?
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: The Scott on July 04, 2020, 06:45:35 AM
...
So who is making the rules here - politicians or health scientists?

To be honest, it's whoever has the strictest agenda against freedom, i.e., Democrats and RINOs.

Amazing is it not that the ancient one known as Nancy Pelosi hasn't caught this incredibly contagious virus yet? 

Maybe those foam bags protect her lungs.  FTN.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: funk51 on July 04, 2020, 06:52:18 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=666641.0;attach=1255635;image)
He bears a strong resemblance to Harold Zinkin, shown below.


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                                Harold Zinkin, 82; Muscle Beach Pioneer Invented Weight Machine
By MARY ROURKE
SEP. 24, 200412 AM
TIMES STAFF WRITER
Harold Zinkin, a champion bodybuilder who won the first “Mr. California” title in 1941 and invented the Universal Gym Machine that expanded the possibilities for weight training, died Wednesday. He was 82.

Zinkin fell and hit his head at his home in Fresno on Monday. He lapsed into a coma during the night and was taken to nearby St. Agnes Medical Center but never regained consciousness, said Bonnie Hearn Hill, a longtime friend.

As a teenager in Los Angeles, Zinkin became a regular at Muscle Beach in Santa Monica, and fell in with a group of athletes who were not only bodybuilders but also had an acrobatic bent. They would form human pyramids, and Zinkin, who was just 5 foot 7 inches tall and in incredible shape, was often the guy at the bottom.

“Harold was an exceptionally well-rounded athlete,” longtime fitness guru Jack LaLanne, who met Zinkin in the late 1930s, told The Times on Thursday. “He was a bodybuilder, an acrobat, a tumbler. He was a champion in every way: physically, mentally, morally and spiritually.”

The beach was a training center for a number of future fitness legends. In addition to LaLanne, there were Joe Gold -- Zinkin’s high school classmate and the founder of Gold’s Gym -- and Vic Tanny, who went on to start one of the first national chains of health clubs.

Some of the young athletes brought their own weights to Muscle Beach, an oddity in those days, and used them to build strength for their acrobatic routines that drew spectators every weekend.

“Practices, we squeezed out after school and on weekends,” Zinkin recalled in his book “Remembering Muscle Beach,” which he wrote with Hearn Hill and was published by Angel City Press in 1999. “Then we might try one out on the Sunday crowd. If we got a few claps, we figured it was a good trick. But the applause wasn’t our motivation. It just told us we were making progress.”

Perhaps their most memorable trick was a four-man pyramid, which Zinkin believed was never repeated in the United States.

Astonishingly, Zinkin was the man on the bottom anchoring the other three while his body was in a backbend. A photograph of the stunt shows the three other acrobats -- LaLanne is the third from the bottom -- standing on his torso. A small crowd -- including spotters, who stood ready to catch any falling acrobats -- is gathered around what looks like an impromptu performance.

The trick, however, took some effort. Zinkin recounted in the book that it took two years of practice before they could hold the position long enough for a photograph.

Tanny, who owned a gym in Santa Monica, entered Zinkin, then a 19-year-old, in the first Mr. California bodybuilders contest in 1941, but told him about it only after the fact.

“I didn’t like bodybuilding for posing purposes and told Vic so,” Zinkin recalled in his book. “I also reminded him that at five feet seven inches, I didn’t stand a chance of winning against the giants who were competing with me.”

Tanny held the competition at his gym.

“I was a kid, he was a successful gym operator. I did what he said,” Zinkin recalled, noting that he had never seen a bodybuilders competition and took his posing ideas from muscle magazines. “And I won over several future Mr. America contenders.”

In the 1940s, Zinkin belonged to the Professional Strongmen’s Assn., an elite group of weightlifters. He won a number of weightlifting competitions. In 1945, he was first runner-up in the Mr. America bodybuilding competition.

“Harold was the strongest in the bunch,” said Gene Mozee, a bodybuilding historian who was also the founder of the now-defunct Pasadena Gym and Health Club.

When Zinkin developed his Universal Gym weight training system over several years in the mid-1950s, barbells and dumbbells were the main equipment available. His multistation machine allowed as many as eight people to work out at one time, exercising different parts of the body. The equipment was compact, with adjustable weight plates that were easy to use.

Within a few years it was standard machinery in several gyms, including Tanny’s chain. A number of professional football teams used it. College coaches discovered it and brought it into school gyms for their athletes.

“Harold did more for the acceptance of weight training by college athletes than anyone,” Mozee told The Times on Thursday.

“If a coach wants to move 30 athletes through training in a short period of time, he can do it on that machine. No one has to stand around waiting for another guy to put down the barbells,” Mozee said.

“Universal was the forerunner of all the modern equipment to come along in the past 25 years,” Mozee said. “Now there are individual machines for working body parts, but you can still get the same results on Harold’s equipment.”

Zinkin opened a number of gyms in the 1950s and produced his first Universal Gym machines by custom order. In 1963, he began to mass-produce the equipment and market it worldwide.

In the 1970s, Zinkin and several partners developed commercial real estate in the Fresno area. He also owned a fitness consulting business, Zinkin Fitness International. He remained in good physical condition and continued to work out all of his life.

Born in San Francisco, Zinkin dropped out of high school in Los Angeles when his father died.

During World War II, he was a physical therapist in the Navy and continued working as a rehabilitation therapist for sailors returning from the war.

He relocated to Fresno in 1953 and married his wife, Betty, on Valentine’s Day the following year. It was a second marriage for both of them. She survived him. Also surviving are his son, DeWayne, from his first marriage; four grandchildren; and several great-grandchildren.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was among those who recalled Zinkin on Thursday. “Some of my fondest memories of our friendship are of the two of us doing balancing acts together on Muscle Beach,” Schwarzenegger said in a written statement.

“Harold was a great mentor,” Schwarzenegger said. “I am deeply indebted to him for the friendship we shared and the counsel he gave me. He was a trusted confidant and supported me personally and professionally throughout my bodybuilding, movie and political careers.”

A memorial service will be held at 11 a.m. Monday at the Northwest Church, 5415 N. West Ave., Fresno.

Contributions in Zinkin’s name can be made to Break the Barriers, a nonprofit sports center for able and disabled people, infant to adult. The address is 8555 N. Cedar Ave., Fresno, CA 93720 or the SPCA animal shelter, 103 S. Hughes St., Fresno, CA 93706-1207.

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Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Straw Man on July 04, 2020, 10:57:33 AM
New Rules in Los Angeles County on July 1st...

Gymgoers in Los Angeles County now have to wear face coverings and gloves the entire time they’re at fitness facilities, health officials announced Wednesday. “Patrons must be warned to only do exercises to the extent they can breathe comfortably while wearing a face covering over both their nose and mouth at all times,” the L.A. County Department of Public Health said.

BUT - The World Health Organization released guidance on June 16, 2020, that people shouldn't wear face masks while exercising because it could reduce the ability to breathe comfortably, noting that the most important factor in preventing disease spread is distancing yourself from others.



So who is making the rules here - politicians or health scientists?

Politicians of course

Do you think TRAITOR Trump is following the advice of "health scientists" ?

If we were listening to the "health scientists" the gyms wouldn't be open.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: The Scott on July 04, 2020, 11:59:48 AM
Politicians of course

Do you think TRAITOR Trump is following the advice of "health scientists" ?

If we were listening to the "health scientists" the gyms wouldn't be open.

Hi quisling.  Once more...With feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeling.

Aren't you the whiny bitch that insisted I give you "my stuff" when you saw my garage gym

Have you ever worked for yourself  or have you always been an employee or lived off government assistance?

BTW - I'm 100% Italian American and there is no such word as "Soymalian"

Since you sit on your ass all day doing nothing but whining the least you can do it learn how to spell correctly for your racist tirades

Actually, I am one of those that complimented you on your home gym and then jokingly (and you already knew this) said you should give it to me.  But again.  You knew this. "Insisted".  What a fucking retard you are.  You are in the barrel along with select others here.

Here is the post you so obviously cannot begin to fathom wherein you claim I "insist" that you give me your "stuff":
That's an excellent home gym, vastly superior to what I have.  I hereby DEMAND Equipmental Equality and invoke the little known and rarely used "Gimme Yo' Shit Act of 2020"! 

Not really. I cannot stand your politics but you have superb taste in fitting out a gym. Well done, sir.

You really do have no friends...

I do have difficulty spelling and sometimes I don't carefully check prior to posting.  I am not smart.  I have worked all my life since I was a child as a laborer and a fork lift driver.  Further more, I've picked all manner of vegetables and fruits from fields and orchards from being a child to a teenager.  I worked for myself and my family and it was honest work. 

I am American.  You are not.  I despise hyphenating one's allegiance to our Nation as did President Theodore Roosevelt. You will ignore this because Teddy was  Republican. 

Oh wait!  You failed to include the "hyphen".  Talk about "spelling"...

I am of the human race, fuckwit.  You are a cuck and I despise your kind.  "Racist tirades".  Typical baseless attacks from a cuckolded  maroon.  When all else fails, fail some more, eh asshole?

By the way you senseless slob, "Soymalian" is a play on words.  It combines Soy with Somalian.  Does this 80 point IQ need to further explain the biting humor in that? 

You have been bested again.  Oh how one can almost hear the weeping and gnashing of your dentures at the outright shame of being so easily belittled by someone such as I.

If it makes you "feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel" better, you could easily beat me in a foot race.  ;D  No one and I mean NO ONE, likes you. 

Soymalian. Typist.  Cuckold.  Turd-Worlder. Fuck Your Noise, ace.
Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Straw Man on July 04, 2020, 12:54:02 PM
Hi quisling.  Once more...With feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeling.

Actually, I am one of those that complimented you on your home gym and then jokingly (and you already knew this) said you should give it to me.  But again.  You knew this. "Insisted".  What a fucking retard you are.  You are in the barrel along with select others here.

Here is the post you so obviously cannot begin to fathom wherein you claim I "insist" that you give me your "stuff":
You really do have no friends...

I do have difficulty spelling and sometimes I don't carefully check prior to posting.  I am not smart.  I have worked all my life since I was a child as a laborer and a fork lift driver.  Further more, I've picked all manner of vegetables and fruits from fields and orchards from being a child to a teenager.  I worked for myself and my family and it was honest work. 

I am American.  You are not.  I despise hyphenating one's allegiance to our Nation as did President Theodore Roosevelt. You will ignore this because Teddy was  Republican. 

Oh wait!  You failed to include the "hyphen".  Talk about "spelling"...

I am of the human race, fuckwit.  You are a cuck and I despise your kind.  "Racist tirades".  Typical baseless attacks from a cuckolded  maroon.  When all else fails, fail some more, eh asshole?

By the way you senseless slob, "Soymalian" is a play on words.  It combines Soy with Somalian.  Does this 80 point IQ need to further explain the biting humor in that? 

You have been bested again.  Oh how one can almost hear the weeping and gnashing of your dentures at the outright shame of being so easily belittled by someone such as I.

If it makes you "feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel" better, you could easily beat me in a foot race.  ;D  No one and I mean NO ONE, likes you. 

Soymalian. Typist.  Cuckold.  Turd-Worlder. Fuck Your Noise, ace.

LOL - Damn I had no idea I OWNED so much space inside your head

Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: The Scott on July 04, 2020, 01:25:08 PM
LOL - Damn I had no idea I OWNED so much space inside your head

"LOL"?

Really?  You talent less typist.  I am merely pointing out what a mangina of a Soymalian you are, as well as how incapable of telling the truth you and your kind are. 

Of course everyone here and in the real world already knows this.  I have no doubt that you wear this vagina-themed mask wherever you go.
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Title: Re: Gold's Venice - Forced masks thanks to Arnold
Post by: Primemuscle on July 04, 2020, 02:17:59 PM
Loprinzi’s Gym in Portland, OR, USA!  - MY DREAM GYM.

J

Right on! It is a quintessential Portland gym.