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Title: Straight from a Philly Cop - Morale is low - Disdain for the Chief
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 03, 2020, 09:38:56 AM
Spoke to a friend at the gym this morning who is a Philly cop.  Morale is at an all time low.  There is much disdain for the police chief and city counsel libtards who want to defund and vilify them. 

Here are the bullet points of our conversation:

- All police have adopted a "stand down" attitude due to being vilified as abusive racists.
- About 30% of them are calling out sick this weekend, but doctors note is required.
- They are responding to calls in a leisurely manner, no matter what it is.
- Any "man with a gun" calls that comes in (especially from ghetto areas) also gets a slow response.  They try to arrive after the action has taken place so they don't get accused of being racist or do something where enforcing the law is now considered a felony.
- Many are applying for early retirement.

It's not just Philly cops... this is happening in EVERY city run by democrats.

To all the PC, SJW, virtue signaling, libtard commies on this board... you should be very careful what you wish for... you just might get it, but you'll receive NO police protection whatsoever when the bad boys come for you.   
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Royalty on July 03, 2020, 10:01:21 AM
I think that when democrat leaders start getting robbed at gun point and murdered, there might be a change.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: joswift on July 03, 2020, 10:03:21 AM
this ties in with the last few years of "toxic masculinity" its got to the point were any real men are now refusing to stand up for the weak and oppressed.

Very shortly there will be no one to come and help when the libtards start getting eaten by the very animals they have unleashed.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 03, 2020, 10:19:41 AM
No need to worry. lazy white guys will always be looking to get “on the job” a/k/a white welfare.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Ronnie Rep on July 03, 2020, 10:28:11 AM
Spoke to a friend at the gym this morning who is a Philly cop.  Morale is at an all time low.  There is much disdain for the police chief and city counsel libtards who want to defund and vilify them. 

Here are the bullet points of our conversation:

- All police have adopted a "stand down" attitude due to being vilified as abusive racists.
- About 30% of them are calling out sick this weekend, but doctors note is required.
- They are responding to calls in a leisurely manner, no matter what it is.
- Any "man with a gun" calls that comes in (especially from ghetto areas) also gets a slow response.  They try to arrive after the action has taken place so they don't get accused of being racist or do something where enforcing the law is now considered a felony.
- Many are applying for early retirement.

It's not just Philly cops... this is happening in EVERY city run by democrats.

To all the PC, SJW, virtue signaling, libtard commies on this board... you should be very careful what you wish for... you just might get it, but you'll receive NO police protection whatsoever when the bad boys come for you.
Anabolic where in Philly do you live?
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Dave D on July 03, 2020, 10:37:18 AM
Is this a big deal?

 I’ve read countless times on here that cops were losers and bullied in high school and they became police men because of that rejection.

Now people are demanding police reform and suddenly the Getbig collective is against that idea?

I know everyone here is heavily loaded with guns and ammunition and we are all ready to die to defend our rights and property so how will this really become a bad thing for a typical Getbigger?

We can wipe out the scum we come in contact with without any resistance, why complain?
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 03, 2020, 10:40:44 AM
The demilitarization of the police, elimination of unnecessary and punitive drug laws, and general scaling back of the police state, should be welcomed by conservatives and liberals alike.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Darren Avey on July 03, 2020, 10:41:10 AM
Is this a big deal?

 I’ve read countless times on here that cops were losers and bullied in high school and they became police men because of that rejection.

Now people are demanding police reform and suddenly the Getbig collective is against that idea?

I know everyone here is heavily loaded with guns and ammunition and we are all ready to die to defend our rights and property so how will this really become a bad thing for a typical Getbigger?

We can wipe out the scum we come in contact with without any resistance, why complain?

I'm a bodybuilder so I can easily fight my way out of any bad situation
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Kwon on July 03, 2020, 10:42:38 AM
Is this a big deal?

 I’ve read countless times on here that cops were losers and bullied in high school and they became police men because of that rejection.

Now people are demanding police reform and suddenly the Getbig collective is against that idea?

I know everyone here is heavily loaded with guns and ammunition and we are all ready to die to defend our rights and property so how will this really become a bad thing for a typical Getbigger?

We can wipe out the scum we come in contact with without any resistance, why complain?

Are you trolling Dave?
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 03, 2020, 10:42:41 AM
Anabolic where in Philly do you live?

NE Philly.  About 7 miles from center city.  Not bad crime wise, but some parts are slowly tuning into a ghetto.  Lots of Chinese buying homes around here, taking over large parts of the NE area.  Don't mind them though, because they are quiet and law abiding.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Dave D on July 03, 2020, 10:50:14 AM
Are you trolling Dave?

Nope.

This is a good thing. As far as I can tell GB hates blacks, now all the big talkers can prove how they’re going to handle and police their community’s.

We will find out if we need police reform, more or less police or if regular citizens are up to the task.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 03, 2020, 10:56:47 AM
Nope.

This is a good thing. As far as I can tell GB hates blacks, now all the big talkers can prove how they’re going to handle and police their community’s.

We will find out if we need police reform, more or less police or if regular citizens are up to the task.

You're correct... talk is cheap isn't it?   

Regardless of what happens next, I sleep very well at night knowing I'm fully prepared.  I will do whatever I must when the time comes.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: che on July 03, 2020, 10:59:18 AM
Is this a big deal?

 I’ve read countless times on here that cops were losers and bullied in high school and they became police men because of that rejection.

Now people are demanding police reform and suddenly the Getbig collective is against that idea?

I know everyone here is heavily loaded with guns and ammunition and we are all ready to die to defend our rights and property so how will this really become a bad thing for a typical Getbigger?

We can wipe out the scum we come in contact with without any resistance, why complain?

YES , I'm fucking  ready

Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: JAGO on July 03, 2020, 11:05:27 AM
Spoke to a friend at the gym this morning who is a Philly cop.  Morale is at an all time low.  There is much disdain for the police chief and city counsel libtards who want to defund and vilify them. 

Here are the bullet points of our conversation:

- All police have adopted a "stand down" attitude due to being vilified as abusive racists.
- About 30% of them are calling out sick this weekend, but doctors note is required.
- They are responding to calls in a leisurely manner, no matter what it is.
- Any "man with a gun" calls that comes in (especially from ghetto areas) also gets a slow response.  They try to arrive after the action has taken place so they don't get accused of being racist or do something where enforcing the law is now considered a felony.
- Many are applying for early retirement.

It's not just Philly cops... this is happening in EVERY city run by democrats.

To all the PC, SJW, virtue signaling, libtard commies on this board... you should be very careful what you wish for... you just might get it, but you'll receive NO police protection whatsoever when the bad boys come for you.

How is President Trump handling this?

J
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Griffith on July 03, 2020, 11:06:31 AM
Wait till house robberies and invasions start and families get tortured and murdered in front of each other in their homes.

The US seems to be about 20 years behind South Africa, but it seems to slowly be following the same trends.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Dave D on July 03, 2020, 11:14:35 AM
Wait till house robberies and invasions start and families get tortured and murdered in front of each other in their homes.

The US seems to be about 20 years behind South Africa, but it seems to slowly be following the same trends.

What are the percentages of blacks and whites in South Africa? Are the economy’s similar?

Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Dave D on July 03, 2020, 11:18:26 AM
You're correct... talk is cheap isn't it?   

Regardless of what happens next, I sleep very well at night knowing I'm fully prepared.  I will do whatever I must when the time comes.

This.

I know we disagree on some ideas here but the reality is if you aren’t able to take care of yourself in an extreme circumstances, the police aren’t going to be around the exact moment you need them anyway.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Virgil on July 03, 2020, 11:20:54 AM
Drs note is always required unless you have over 1200 sick hours accrued. Man with a gun called is always responded to "with caution", which is Philly police code for Take your fucking time. First one on the scene has to write it up, so alot of guys don't wanna be first on.  Morale has been shitty for years now, but this mayor, district attorney and police cheif hate cops. The police cheif is " unavailable" this weekend...which means she's out of state interviewing for another job.  Also if you have any plans for the 4th, cancel them... because all days off are cancelled and expect a 12-16 hour shift ( every July 4th days off always cancelled)
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: illuminati on July 03, 2020, 11:21:20 AM
I think that when democrat leaders start getting robbed at gun point and murdered, there might be a change.

Ha ha ha Quite so - look how quick that dumb mayor of Seattle changed her mind.
Ain’t no Libturd Retards on here speaking up for her Double Standards & Hypocrisy
- The Summer of Love in Seattle soon turned into the Hell Hole of Shitsville.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: illuminati on July 03, 2020, 11:26:45 AM
this ties in with the last few years of "toxic masculinity" its got to the point were any real men are now refusing to stand up for the weak and oppressed.

Very shortly there will be no one to come and help when the libtards start getting eaten by the very animals they have unleashed.


Great I can’t wait for the Pathetic Libturds & their families on here to get beaten & Eaten by the very same savages They Backing & Promoting - The Utter Blind Stupidity of them is Beyond Belief.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Griffith on July 03, 2020, 11:33:55 AM
If law and order starts breaking down due to a weak and undermanned police force, more people will start behaving more violently.

With a much lower risk of getting caught, it will bring out more of the worst in people and criminals, and violent crime will go up.

This is obvious, but some people don't seem to understand this, perhaps because they've always lived quite a sheltered life.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 03, 2020, 11:47:13 AM
If law and order starts breaking down due to a weak and undermanned police force, more people will start behaving more violently.

With a much lower risk of getting caught, it will bring out more of the worst in people and criminals, and violent crime will go up.


This is obvious, but some people don't seem to understand this, perhaps because they've always lived quite a sheltered life.

It's already happening in major cities run by Bolshevik demorats.  Crime and murder rates are increasing rapidly.   

These radical liberals are mentally ill... there should be no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: mphgrove on July 03, 2020, 11:52:41 AM
Spoke to a friend at the gym this morning who is a Philly cop.  Morale is at an all time low.  There is much disdain for the police chief and city counsel libtards who want to defund and vilify them. 

Here are the bullet points of our conversation:

- All police have adopted a "stand down" attitude due to being vilified as abusive racists.
- About 30% of them are calling out sick this weekend, but doctors note is required.
- They are responding to calls in a leisurely manner, no matter what it is.
- Any "man with a gun" calls that comes in (especially from ghetto areas) also gets a slow response.  They try to arrive after the action has taken place so they don't get accused of being racist or do something where enforcing the law is now considered a felony.
- Many are applying for early retirement.

It's not just Philly cops... this is happening in EVERY city run by democrats.

To all the PC, SJW, virtue signaling, libtard commies on this board... you should be very careful what you wish for... you just might get it, but you'll receive NO police protection whatsoever when the bad boys come for you.

I understand the low morale and agree we need to understand what our police officers face. BUT one point this post misses is that these men and women get weekly or monthly paychecks from the taxpayers so it is not really viable to say that they will simply take a leisurely I don’t give a shit approach to their jobs or just call in sick. Retirement is up to them but getting paid and not doing the job is not up to them.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: TheGrinch on July 03, 2020, 11:56:41 AM
I think that when democrat leaders start getting robbed at gun point and murdered, there might be a change.

Except that will never happen as they have their own private security
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: funk51 on July 03, 2020, 11:58:59 AM
Spoke to a friend at the gym this morning who is a Philly cop.  Morale is at an all time low.  There is much disdain for the police chief and city counsel libtards who want to defund and vilify them. 

Here are the bullet points of our conversation:

- All police have adopted a "stand down" attitude due to being vilified as abusive racists.
- About 30% of them are calling out sick this weekend, but doctors note is required.
- They are responding to calls in a leisurely manner, no matter what it is.
- Any "man with a gun" calls that comes in (especially from ghetto areas) also gets a slow response.  They try to arrive after the action has taken place so they don't get accused of being racist or do something where enforcing the law is now considered a felony.
- Many are applying for early retirement.

It's not just Philly cops... this is happening in EVERY city run by democrats.

To all the PC, SJW, virtue signaling, libtard commies on this board... you should be very careful what you wish for... you just might get it, but you'll receive NO police protection whatsoever when the bad boys come for you.
                 we're going to see a new breed of cops everywhere.               
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: oldgolds on July 03, 2020, 12:04:41 PM
Is this a big deal?

 I’ve read countless times on here that cops were losers and bullied in high school and they became police men because of that rejection.

Now people are demanding police reform and suddenly the Getbig collective is against that idea?

I know everyone here is heavily loaded with guns and ammunition and we are all ready to die to defend our rights and property so how will this really become a bad thing for a typical Getbigger?

We can wipe out the scum we come in contact with without any resistance, why complain?






Nonsense...Cops are regular Men and  Women trying to do a dangerous, difficult job and dealing with the scum of society on a daily basis. People complaining about cops are almost always from high crime groups (blacks) or  people who have an arrest record.  It's  normal to resent someone who puts you in jail.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: mphgrove on July 03, 2020, 12:08:46 PM





Nonsense...Cops are regular Men and  Women trying to do a dangerous, difficult job and dealing with the scum of society on a daily basis. People complaining about cops are almost always from high crime groups (blacks) or  people who have an arrest record.  It's  normal to resent someone who puts you in jail.

True and we need to believe in them and support them. But, on their end,  they should not get into a mindset where, given low morale, they stop taking their job seriously and stop being responsive. That would be very negative.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: funk51 on July 03, 2020, 12:14:36 PM
the local citizenry will have to pick up the slack.     
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: mphgrove on July 03, 2020, 12:18:54 PM
the local citizenry will have to pick up the slack.     


LOL    Gomer: Citizens Ayyyrest

Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 03, 2020, 12:19:03 PM
True and we need to believe in them and support them. But, on their end,  they should not get into a mindset where, given low morale, they stop taking their job seriously and stop being responsive. That would be very negative.

They are sending a silent message.  The entire police force is being disrespected and vilified by their own city officials.  No support from their police chiefs either.  The whole thing is quite nefarious.  These police should've have to put up with this. 
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: mphgrove on July 03, 2020, 12:22:51 PM
They are sending a silent message.  The entire police force is being disrespected and vilified by their own city officials.  No support from their police chiefs either.  The whole thing is quite nefarious.  These police should've have to put up with this.

But sending the message while cashing the paycheck is always a problem.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: illuminati on July 03, 2020, 01:13:54 PM
I’m no cop lover - only they’re a necessary in society especially for the weak & vulnerable.
What I will say is many cops & their bosses have brought this hate & distrust upon themselves by
Not dealing Hard & Properly with many rogue cops & continually letting them off from Brutality/
Rapes/ Thefts to Murder.
No doubt there’s many a good cop out there - only they all stood silent while the bad ones did as they wanted - They’re complicit by their silence.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 03, 2020, 01:20:07 PM
I’m no cop lover - only they’re a necessary in society especially for the weak & vulnerable.


The alternatives are : 1) Anarchy 2) Vigilantes or 3) A Federal Police Force, AKA Brown Shirts. All of these options have been tried in history and they all failed miserable. Cops are fine.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: illuminati on July 03, 2020, 01:24:12 PM
The alternatives are : 1) Anarchy 2) Vigilantes or 3) A Federal Police Force, AKA Brown Shirts. All of these options have been tried in history and they all failed miserable. Cops are fine.

Some cops are Fine.
A very large minority are uniformed, Badged & Armed Thugs. That’s Not Fine.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: joswift on July 03, 2020, 01:29:04 PM
Some cops are Fine.
A very large minority are uniformed, Badged & Armed Thugs. That’s Not Fine.

Problems with cops started when they dropped the height restriction and started recruiting people who were bullied at school.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: illuminati on July 03, 2020, 01:32:03 PM
Problems with cops started when they dropped the height restriction and started recruiting people who were bullied at school.

Yes that & Police are very Weakly Policed. That allowed many to get out of Control & be Untouchable.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: mphgrove on July 03, 2020, 01:38:03 PM
Problems with cops started when they dropped the height restriction and started recruiting people who were bullied at school.

There need to be clear standards for job performance and the bad ones need to be weeded out, but if you expect them to be paragons of perfection, then you better raise the salaries to get enough of those paragons of perfection to show up for the job. They cannot be expected to be super-heroes, they are everyday people like the rest of us. We need enough good people to want to do it for a living. Part of that is the broader society showing respect for the profession.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 03, 2020, 01:53:50 PM
There needs to be an attitude change among the police. “The Blue Wall of Silence” is a testament to why things have got to this point and why they need to change. A slice of humble pie for most cops is definitely in order. The policy that most cops won’t condemn bad or corrupt cops because of their “us against them attitude” has to change. It puts the good cops in a terrible position.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 03, 2020, 01:56:13 PM
There need to be clear standards for job performance and the bad ones need to be weeded out, but if you expect them to be paragons of perfection, then you better raise the salaries to get enough of those paragons of perfection to show up for the job. They cannot be expected to be super-heroes, they are everyday people like the rest of us. We need enough good people to want to do it for a living. Part of that is the broader society showing respect for the profession.

The pay and benefits are quite decent in most jurisdictions. If you want higher pay and opportunity no government work will ever satisfy you.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Army of One on July 03, 2020, 01:57:32 PM
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Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: joswift on July 03, 2020, 01:58:31 PM
There need to be clear standards for job performance and the bad ones need to be weeded out, but if you expect them to be paragons of perfection, then you better raise the salaries to get enough of those paragons of perfection to show up for the job. They cannot be expected to be super-heroes, they are everyday people like the rest of us. We need enough good people to want to do it for a living. Part of that is the broader society showing respect for the profession.

I earn double the starting salary for a cop, its embarrassing..
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: SF1900 on July 03, 2020, 02:05:01 PM
The pay and benefits are quite decent in most jurisdictions. If you want higher pay and opportunity no government work will ever satisfy you.

Police in Suffolk and Long Island NY make good money.

“Police officers in Suffolk County topped the list, making $162,000 annually. Cops in Westchester and Nassau counties were right behind, bringing home $149,000 and $137,000, respectively.”
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: f450 on July 03, 2020, 02:06:59 PM
I’m no cop lover - only they’re a necessary in society especially for the weak & vulnerable.
What I will say is many cops & their bosses have brought this hate & distrust upon themselves by
Not dealing Hard & Properly with many rogue cops & continually letting them off from Brutality/
Rapes/ Thefts to Murder.
No doubt there’s many a good cop out there - only they all stood silent while the bad ones did as they wanted - They’re complicit by their silence.

^^
THIS
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Skeletor on July 03, 2020, 02:08:49 PM
I’m no cop lover - only they’re a necessary in society especially for the weak & vulnerable.
What I will say is many cops & their bosses have brought this hate & distrust upon themselves by
Not dealing Hard & Properly with many rogue cops & continually letting them off from Brutality/
Rapes/ Thefts to Murder.
No doubt there’s many a good cop out there - only they all stood silent while the bad ones did as they wanted - They’re complicit by their silence.

I concur.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 03, 2020, 02:24:51 PM
The demilitarization of the police, elimination of unnecessary and punitive drug laws, and general scaling back of the police state, should be welcomed by conservatives and liberals alike.


Sounds great....could liberals stop being criminals then?
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 03, 2020, 02:26:06 PM
They are sending a silent message.  The entire police force is being disrespected and vilified by their own city officials.  No support from their police chiefs either.  The whole thing is quite nefarious.  These police should've have to put up with this.


This is regime change the same way Obama purged all the of the top military brass. If you believe in upholding the Constitution you are out by any means possible.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: mphgrove on July 03, 2020, 02:27:49 PM
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There is no doubt that it is a tough job and these job satisfaction numbers tell a compelling story. Doctors face horrible, sad situations and negative outcomes but I would wager most would say they would like their own children to select their profession. For those who have done a stint as a teacher in a rough, unban school district, multiply the complexity by about three times to gauge what police officers in those communities face. The difficulty of that job needs to be respected.

That said, those police officers need to DO THAT JOB. Leisurely absence of response when citizens are in danger or all of the officers calling in sick at the same time or abandoning their districts at taxpayer expense is inexcusable (and garners no sympathy).
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 03, 2020, 02:29:25 PM

Sounds great....could liberals stop being criminals then?

Most “liberals“ I know are wealthy. They’re hardly committing street crime. If anything, they’re white-collar criminals ... lol.

I doubt the mostly poor population who interact with the police have much in the way of political convictions.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 03, 2020, 02:37:25 PM
Most “liberals“ I know are wealthy. They’re hardly committing street crime. If anything, they’re white-collar criminals ... lol.

I doubt the mostly poor population who interact with the police have much in the way of political convictions.


You know some rich democrats, so that means none of the hoardes of criminal "protesters" are political? WTF kind of logic is this? Haha.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: mphgrove on July 03, 2020, 02:39:35 PM

You know some rich democrats, so that means none of the hoardes of criminal "protesters" are political? WTF kind of logic is this? Haha.

Agree. It is presumptuous to say that only wealthy people have political opinions.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 03, 2020, 02:48:33 PM
There needs to be an attitude change among the police. “The Blue Wall of Silence” is a testament to why things have got to this point and why they need to change. A slice of humble pie for most cops is definitely in order. The policy that most cops won’t condemn bad or corrupt cops because of their “us against them attitude” has to change. It puts the good cops in a terrible position.

So the Blue Wall of Silence is bad?

Yet in Chicago a 20-month old was shot and killed last week, and although the entire neighborhood knows who the shooter was, not one person will speak out.

It’s easy to criticize the police until you see the absolute shit urban jungles they have to uphold the law in. All the while being despised by the very people demanding protection
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 03, 2020, 02:50:08 PM

You know some rich democrats, so that means none of the hoardes of criminal "protesters" are political? WTF kind of logic is this? Haha.

You’re conflating protesters and criminals. Are you saying no one has the right to peacefully protest?
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: joswift on July 03, 2020, 02:55:05 PM
You’re conflating protesters and criminals. Are you saying no one has the right to peacefully protest?

everyone has a right to protest, but no one has the right to cause that protest to impose on someone else's right of free movement and opinion

Your rights end where another persons begins.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: illuminati on July 03, 2020, 02:57:29 PM
There needs to be an attitude change among the police. “The Blue Wall of Silence” is a testament to why things have got to this point and why they need to change. A slice of humble pie for most cops is definitely in order. The policy that most cops won’t condemn bad or corrupt cops because of their “us against them attitude” has to change. It puts the good cops in a terrible position.


Exactly there does need to be an attitude change amongst them.

So the Blue Wall of Silence is bad?

Yet in Chicago a 20-month old was shot and killed last week, and although the entire neighborhood knows who the shooter was, not one person will speak out.

It’s easy to criticize the police until you see the absolute shit urban jungles they have to uphold the law in. All the while being despised by the very people demanding protection


Yes the Blue wall of silence is Very Bad.
Why would they wish to emulate the wall of Silence from Scumbag Community??
The sad loss of life of that young child & the silence surrounding it is Awful & let
The Scumbags Die & Kill one & other, as terrible as that might be - They don’t want Help
So don’t give it to them.
And Cops wish to behave in a similar manner 🙄
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 03, 2020, 03:07:07 PM
everyone has a right to protest, but no one has the right to cause that protest to impose on someone else's right of free movement and opinion

Your rights end where another persons begins.

I’ve witnessed a lot of the protests In my area firsthand. The reality is often much different than what you see in snippets on the internet designed to inflame people one way or another. I’m not saying you’re one of them but a lot of dudes on GB need to push away their keyboard or put their phone down and get out a little more.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 03, 2020, 03:10:22 PM

Exactly there does need to be an attitude change amongst them.


Yes the Blue wall of silence is Very Bad.
Why would they wish to emulate the wall of Silence from Scumbag Community??
The sad loss of life of that young child & the silence surrounding it is Awful & let
The Scumbags Die & Kill one & other, as terrible as that might be - They don’t want Help
So don’t give it to them.
And Cops wish to behave in a similar manner 🙄

My guess would be the current drivers behind the Blue Wall of Silence are crooked politicians, overzealous prosecutors, a biased and politically motivated media, and a few bad apples in the police force.

But let’s not pretend. President Donald Trump was swinging a significant block of black voters his way, so this excusing of the BLM riots, discussion of reparations, defunding the police, ignoring of record black employment rates, and letting black communities run wild is a plan put in place by the Democrats and MSM to try to regain the lost black vote.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: illuminati on July 03, 2020, 03:19:14 PM
My guess would be the current drivers behind the Blue Wall of Silence are crooked politicians, overzealous prosecutors, a biased and politically motivated media, and a few bad apples in the police force.

But let’s not pretend. President Donald Trump was swinging a significant block of black voters his way, so this excusing of the BLM riots, discussion of reparations, defunding the police, ignoring of record black employment rates, and letting black communities run wild is a plan put in place by the Democrats and MSM to try to regain the lost black vote.

Now this is a completely different subject.
Yes clearly Donald had made big strides in the Decent Black folk communities
And the Corrupt Libturds had lost a lot of their black vote.
The blm/ MSM / Libturds cleary don’t want to lose that block of votes
Hence as you say what we are seeing going on now.
I hope that block of decent black voters realise what Donald has done for them
And see through the despicable dirty tricks of MSM / DirtyCraps.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 03, 2020, 03:26:46 PM
Now this is a completely different subject.
Yes clearly Donald had made big strides in the Decent Black folk communities
And the Corrupt Libturds had lost a lot of their black vote.
The blm/ MSM / Libturds cleary don’t want to lose that block of votes
Hence as you say what we are seeing going on now.
I hope that block of decent black voters realise what Donald has done for them
And see through the despicable dirty tricks of MSM / DirtyCraps.

Do you really think the NY Governor and NYC Mayor would tell the police to stand back and allow trendy, expensive Manhattan boutique stores to be robbed and ransacked by black rioters if they weren’t kowtowing for black votes?

Come on...you don’t have to be “woke” to figure out why Democrats are kissing black ass right now. This disgusting display is so obvious a blatant attempt at capturing the black and college age brainwashed liberal vote.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: mphgrove on July 03, 2020, 03:40:13 PM
The Blue Wall of Silence is a management issue. How many doctors have gone to the hospital administrator and said “my colleague has been coming to work drunk?” How many teachers have told the principal “that teacher in the room next to me isn’t teaching the students anything?” But an effective principal or hospital administrator knows how to be on top of this.

The only job tougher than being a cop on the beat is being an effective police chief. In Chicago, which has just about the highest large city murder rate in the US, the former Dallas police chief, who lost several officers to terrorist assassination in Dallas, has come out of retirement to try to help Chicago out. Who knows whether he will have any luck. But the guy certainly has skills and will give it a try. But he won’t be able to do much if he loses the trust of his rank and file.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: mphgrove on July 03, 2020, 03:53:44 PM
Do you really think the NY Governor and NYC Mayor would tell the police to stand back and allow trendy, expensive Manhattan boutique stores to be robbed and ransacked by black rioters if they weren’t kowtowing for black votes?

Come on...you don’t have to be “woke” to figure out why Democrats are kissing black ass right now. This disgusting display is so obvious a blatant attempt at capturing the black and college age brainwashed liberal vote.

Liberals are 100 percent brainwashed but conservatives have come to 100 percent of their views through logical, rational deduction? There have always been liberals and conservatives and this is not the first time in history they have seen the world very differently.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Dave D on July 03, 2020, 03:55:42 PM





Nonsense...Cops are regular Men and  Women trying to do a dangerous, difficult job and dealing with the scum of society on a daily basis. People complaining about cops are almost always from high crime groups (blacks) or  people who have an arrest record.  It's  normal to resent someone who puts you in jail.

Sure. Im just going off of what is posted by members here.

I know many good cops. Ive known a few who abused their power. 

Reform isnt bad. Private companies always look at what they can do to improve, the public sector can do the same.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 03, 2020, 04:53:28 PM
Liberals are 100 percent brainwashed but conservatives have come to 100 percent of their views through logical, rational deduction? There have always been liberals and conservatives and this is not the first time in history they have seen the world very differently.

What is going on in the United States right now with attempted political coups, unrestricted rioting, an open attack on the police and military, reaction to a pandemic as a political ploy, and the push for anarchy by the media to unseat a President is going on for the first time in U.S. history.

To insinuate that the sheer stupidity and insanity going on across the country right now are because of Republicans is a blatant lie.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: oldgolds on July 03, 2020, 04:55:38 PM
^^
THIS





Complete bullshit....Statistics show tiny numbers of Blacks killed by cops. Last year only 10 and 6 of them attacked officers. Many more whites killed by cops even though blacks account for roughly 50% of the crime. There are 34,000 arrests every day in the US and no reasonable person would expect zero screwups...We have the best cops and best justice system in the world. This whole BLM movement is simply a deflection from the huge, huge black crime rate.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 03, 2020, 06:09:50 PM
Liberals are 100 percent brainwashed but conservatives have come to 100 percent of their views through logical, rational deduction? There have always been liberals and conservatives and this is not the first time in history they have seen the world very differently.


This is the first time the socialist/communist movement within the mainstream dem party has shown itself...in a very violent form to boot due to the power vacuum in the party.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Tapeworm on July 03, 2020, 06:22:30 PM
Is this a big deal?

 I’ve read countless times on here that cops were losers and bullied in high school and they became police men because of that rejection.

Now people are demanding police reform and suddenly the Getbig collective is against that idea?

I know everyone here is heavily loaded with guns and ammunition and we are all ready to die to defend our rights and property so how will this really become a bad thing for a typical Getbigger?

We can wipe out the scum we come in contact with without any resistance, why complain?

Tbe compaint was that they weren't doing their job right. Now they're shitty and being lackadaisical. The complaint remains that they're not doing their job right.

You have to do your job right. So do I. If someone says I'm plastering badly and need to do better, should I keep charging him the same money but reduce my production to just one wall a day? That's just being a difficult asshole. I should just do my job well.

It's not a question of balancing over vs under policing. Just don't behave like an authori-tay dick to everyone for no reason at all. Also don't ignore calls. Just do the fucking job. If you're incapable of that then go away and get a different job.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly Cop - Morale is low - Disdain for the Chief
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 04, 2020, 03:17:00 AM
Update: 

I have not heard any police sirens for 3 days.  That is very unusual for around here, especially after dark.  I live in between 3 major avenues and 1 large boulevard.  A police district is less than 3 blocks away.   
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Dave D on July 04, 2020, 07:15:17 AM
Tbe compaint was that they weren't doing their job right. Now they're shitty and being lackadaisical. The complaint remains that they're not doing their job right.

You have to do your job right. So do I. If someone says I'm plastering badly and need to do better, should I keep charging him the same money but reduce my production to just one wall a day? That's just being a difficult asshole. I should just do my job well.

It's not a question of balancing over vs under policing. Just don't behave like an authori-tay dick to everyone for no reason at all. Also don't ignore calls. Just do the fucking job. If you're incapable of that then go away and get a different job.

Ok. And to my point is this a big deal?

If this leads to cops doing their job correctly  we all win.
If all the riots and protests brings about reform that is one positive out of this situation.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: mphgrove on July 04, 2020, 09:24:35 AM

This is the first time the socialist/communist movement within the mainstream dem party has shown itself...in a very violent form to boot due to the power vacuum in the party.

You call it a power vacuum. I call it a silent majority. Trump supporters have referred to themselves as the silent majority, but they are loud and not the least bit silent these days. Yes, there are a huge number of crazies in the Democratic Party but there are huge numbers of silent people out there who keep their mouths shut when their Trump friends rant and rave. But mark my words. They are likely to put Biden in the White House in a few months.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly Cop - Morale is low - Disdain for the Chief
Post by: SF1900 on July 04, 2020, 09:29:04 AM
Cops need to fix the culture of silence where good cops are vilified for taking out against bad cops.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Tapeworm on July 04, 2020, 09:34:11 AM
Ok. And to my point is this a big deal?

If this leads to cops doing their job correctly  we all win.
If all the riots and protests brings about reform that is one positive out of this situation.

Ah, right on. My bad. I thought you meant a police strike was justified. Seems you're not one of these internet heroes ready to play Rambo who thinks the cops ought to stand down to teach the country a lesson. These people's wives, mothers, sisters, and daughters are apparently all in the bunker already.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 04, 2020, 12:09:31 PM
You call it a power vacuum. I call it a silent majority. Trump supporters have referred to themselves as the silent majority, but they are loud and not the least bit silent these days. Yes, there are a huge number of crazies in the Democratic Party but there are huge numbers of silent people out there who keep their mouths shut when their Trump friends rant and rave. But mark my words. They are likely to put Biden in the White House in a few months.


Hahaha, no. Liberals are much louder trying to assure each other they aren't total loons. The dem party has been taken over...if there is any silence it's shock from former moderates that have no place in the party now. Anybody okay with Biden being president is a fool anyway. LOOK. AT. THE. GUY.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly Cop - Morale is low - Disdain for the Chief
Post by: oldgolds on July 04, 2020, 02:19:56 PM
Cops need to fix the culture of silence where good cops are vilified for taking out against bad cops.



The worst culture of silence is when 100 black people see someone shot and no one will talk to the police.....Snitches get stitches?
No, blacks  get what they deserve....
Why try to help them and solve a murder when they won't even help themselves?
Screw em'...Let em'rot in their shithole neighborhoods until they grow up...
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: mphgrove on July 04, 2020, 02:22:33 PM

Hahaha, no. Liberals are much louder trying to assure each other they aren't total loons. The dem party has been taken over...if there is any silence it's shock from former moderates that have no place in the party now. Anybody okay with Biden being president is a fool anyway. LOOK. AT. THE. GUY.

Call me a fool, there are a few other fools too, believe me.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly Cop - Morale is low - Disdain for the Chief
Post by: illuminati on July 05, 2020, 06:58:24 PM


The worst culture of silence is when 100 black people see someone shot and no one will talk to the police.....Snitches get stitches?
No, blacks  get what they deserve....
Why try to help them and solve a murder when they won't even help themselves?
Screw em'...Let em'rot in their shithole neighborhoods until they grow up...


X2  well stated.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 05, 2020, 09:07:54 PM

Exactly there does need to be an attitude change amongst them.


Yes the Blue wall of silence is Very Bad.
Why would they wish to emulate the wall of Silence from Scumbag Community??
The sad loss of life of that young child & the silence surrounding it is Awful & let
The Scumbags Die & Kill one & other, as terrible as that might be - They don’t want Help
So don’t give it to them.
And Cops wish to behave in a similar manner 🙄

I would add that he is also comparing apples to oranges. The average citizen while under a moral obligation (certainly philosophically debatable) to act in a particular way that doesn't break the law (Not coming forward as a witness to a crime is not against the law unless special circumstances ) Cops have sworn an oath and are paid to have the citizens best interest at heart. Not coming forward when illegal or inappropriate is observed is likely certainly against one or several department policies and erodes the trust of the community.


Having said that, I do strongly believe that black leaders of the nation and of their communities need to start calling out people for not stepping forward and helping to rid their neighborhoods of the blight some of their fellow neighbors bring.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly Cop - Morale is low - Disdain for the Chief
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 05, 2020, 09:09:59 PM
on a side note, as a retired cop, I personally hesitate taking any cops opinion as the opinion of most cops. There are some really oddball cops out there and sometimes they make me cringe when they give their opinion and the public runs with it as if he represents all cops.  Thats in general. This Philly cop may very well have the pulse of the department. I am hearing similar issues with the Austin PD and their frustration with a very liberal city council.  But I have had many disagreements with the Police Association President over his views on several issues and he gets constant reminders to be wary of trying to take political sides in the name of the officers.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly Cop - Morale is low - Disdain for the Chief
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 06, 2020, 03:17:23 AM
on a side note, as a retired cop, I personally hesitate taking any cops opinion as the opinion of most cops. There are some really oddball cops out there and sometimes they make me cringe when they give their opinion and the public runs with it as if he represents all cops.  Thats in general. This Philly cop may very well have the pulse of the department. I am hearing similar issues with the Austin PD and their frustration with a very liberal city council.  But I have had many disagreements with the Police Association President over his views on several issues and he gets constant reminders to be wary of trying to take political sides in the name of the officers.

My cop friend from the gym has no reason to lie to me.  I've known him for years.
 
I still haven't heard any police car sirens or seen cops rushing to answer a call over the past 6 days... NOT ONE. 
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly Cop - Morale is low - Disdain for the Chief
Post by: Kwon on July 06, 2020, 04:50:22 AM
My cop friend from the gym has no reason to lie to me.  I've known him for years.
 
I still haven't heard any police car sirens or seen cops rushing to answer a call over the past 6 days... NOT ONE.

Poor Citizens!

Crime must be rampant now!
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly cop
Post by: illuminati on July 09, 2020, 09:20:23 PM
I would add that he is also comparing apples to oranges. The average citizen while under a moral obligation (certainly philosophically debatable) to act in a particular way that doesn't break the law (Not coming forward as a witness to a crime is not against the law unless special circumstances ) Cops have sworn an oath and are paid to have the citizens best interest at heart. Not coming forward when illegal or inappropriate is observed is likely certainly against one or several department policies and erodes the trust of the community.


Having said that, I do strongly believe that black leaders of the nation and of their communities need to start calling out people for not stepping forward and helping to rid their neighborhoods of the blight some of their fellow neighbors bring.

Yes - Both Black leaders & Police should be calling out those who do not step forwards
Police probably more so as they are being paid & have taken an oath & by not stepping forwards
They are breaking their oath & taking monies under false pretences.

Black communities & Police are suffering very badly with very low public support or care
because of this remaining silent business.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly Cop - Morale is low - Disdain for the Chief
Post by: Dave D on July 09, 2020, 10:18:48 PM
on a side note, as a retired cop, I personally hesitate taking any cops opinion as the opinion of most cops. There are some really oddball cops out there and sometimes they make me cringe when they give their opinion and the public runs with it as if he represents all cops.  Thats in general. This Philly cop may very well have the pulse of the department. I am hearing similar issues with the Austin PD and their frustration with a very liberal city council.  But I have had many disagreements with the Police Association President over his views on several issues and he gets constant reminders to be wary of trying to take political sides in the name of the officers.

All due respect when I say this but we could say the same thing about taking a retired cops opinion on another cops opinion especially when the retired cop never worked or has any connections in the other cops department.

And what we really should be questioning is your opinion of “oddball” cops. That makes it sound like there are some real BAD cops, that are well known in the department, which is why this whole ordeal started. over
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly Cop - Morale is low - Disdain for the Chief
Post by: Tapeworm on July 10, 2020, 12:05:45 AM
All due respect when I say this but we could say the same thing about taking a retired cops opinion on another cops opinion especially when the retired cop never worked or has any connections in the other cops department.

And what we really should be questioning is your opinion of “oddball” cops. That makes it sound like there are some real BAD cops, that are well known in the department, which is why this whole ordeal started. over

Hearing you 5 by 5. Too much jumpy juice for the town clowns. What's your 20? Over.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly Cop - Morale is low - Disdain for the Chief
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 10, 2020, 04:35:23 AM
The bosses keep everyone in line even with all the shit going on. They want to keep their steady tours, keep getting promoted and not get shitcanned. You can only get away with so much. Despite what you hear there are still numbers to hit.
Title: Re: Straight from a Philly Cop - Morale is low - Disdain for the Chief
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 12, 2020, 12:59:53 AM
All due respect when I say this but we could say the same thing about taking a retired cops opinion on another cops opinion especially when the retired cop never worked or has any connections in the other cops department.

And what we really should be questioning is your opinion of “oddball” cops. That makes it sound like there are some real BAD cops, that are well known in the department, which is why this whole ordeal started. over

I don't disagree with you Dave. When I was typing out that post I realized my view carried no more weight than the gym buddy cop. Just my observation.

As far as the oddball reference, I had in mind cops with odd opinions or views, not necessarily illegal or unauthorized.