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Article will apparently blow the lid off the secrecy.A man named admiral wilson tried to get access to the black budget program 20 years ago and was told in no uncertain terms he didnt have a need to know, but they had a full intact saucer and were trying to reverse engineer it.NYT is the worlds most influential paper, and I think people will finally take notice.
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Article will apparently blow the lid off the secrecy.A man named admiral wilson tried to get access to the black budget program 20 years ago and was told in no uncertain terms he didnt have a need to know, but they had a full intact saucer and were trying to reverse engineer it.NYT is the worlds most influential paper, and I think people will finally take notice.
Really ::), nobody in Africa,China,India,Latino America,Australia,Japan,Russia,.... read that paper !.
OBW, why is call New York Toilet Times ?.
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Really ::), nobody in Africa,China,India,Latino America,Australia,Japan,Russia,.... read that paper !.
OBW, why is call New York Toilet Times ?.
https://www.4imn.com/top200/
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Deny all you want, full disclosure is coming.
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It wont matter what they reveal, the aliens will be deemed racists and blamed for spreading covid. Theyll never recover.
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If they want me to believe it the last place they should put it in is the New York Times.
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If they want me to believe it the last place they should put it in is the New York Times.
Like it or not, its considered the worlds number 1 paper, so all the rest will take notice
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'National security risk': Rubio seeks declassification of UFO secrets
"We have things flying over our military bases and places where we’re conducting military exercises, and we don’t know what it is, and it isn’t ours. So, that’s a legitimate question to ask,"
“I would say that, frankly, that if it’s something outside this planet, that might actually be better than the fact that we’ve seen some technological leap on behalf of the Chinese or the Russians or some other adversary that allows them to conduct this sort of activity.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/national-security-risk-rubio-seeks-declassification-of-ufo-secrets
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Like it or not, its considered the worlds number 1 paper, so all the rest will take notice
Just post numbers of NY Toilet Times copies sold on other continents !.
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'National security risk': Rubio seeks declassification of UFO secrets
"We have things flying over our military bases and places where we’re conducting military exercises, and we don’t know what it is, and it isn’t ours. So, that’s a legitimate question to ask,"
“I would say that, frankly, that if it’s something outside this planet, that might actually be better than the fact that we’ve seen some technological leap on behalf of the Chinese or the Russians or some other adversary that allows them to conduct this sort of activity.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/national-security-risk-rubio-seeks-declassification-of-ufo-secrets
damn!
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Not this shit again, lol. Yeah, fully intact flying saucers from a species so intelligent that it can travel at least 10,000 light years in a flash, but can't make anything as reliable as my Toyota.
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Been bouncing around the interweb for 6 months or so
Who is writing this article for NYT?
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It wont matter what they reveal, the aliens will be deemed racists and blamed for spreading covid. Theyll never recover.
Yep get their ass cancelled for being racist and not being devoted to blm
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In 2020 a getbigger found out about Area 51. ::)
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Been bouncing around the interweb for 6 months or so
Who is writing this article for NYT?
Yup, wilson memo has been known for months now, but many thought it was fake at first, seems now it isnt
Not this shit again, lol. Yeah, fully intact flying saucers from a species so intelligent that it can travel at least 10,000 light years in a flash, but can't make anything as reliable as my Toyota.
If you believe Bob Lazar, who was saying much of this before anyone, they are from archeological digs.If you believe Tom Delonge, who was the man who single handidly started this disclosure and has called every step so far, "they" are purposely crashing them to give us the technology.Ive heard other theories that our radar brings them down, also that they began crashing as soon as we started the first nuclear tests, which fits with the Roswell era, if that event was really a craft crash..Also the simple fact they are mechanical and like anytjing mechanical, it eventually breaks down.If they are Von Neumann probes and unamanned, disposable, travelling for hundreds of years, it makes sense they eventually would crash.
Just post numbers of NY Toilet Times copies sold on other continents !.
Did the George Floyd death teach you nothing?It showed bordsrs and countries ceased to matter, the whole world protesting over 1 American death.The NYT might be a paper that has "copies" but its on the internet where anyone now can read it that is its bread and butter.Every news outlet will report this if the NYT prints it, so the other continents will read it within the week.
In 2020 a getbigger found out about Area 51. ::)
I knew about it in the late 80s when Lazar came forward.Problem is that all we have had for the 70 years before now is denial from governments.Now senators, congressmen, even the president are giving this stuff serious airtime.Thats unprecedented.
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Army must be a very interesting man to know in real life.....
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Wonder how this info would be used if released?
If they're deciding to release it, it's probably for a reason and not simple disclosure.
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In 2020 a getbigger found out about Area 51. ::)
The live alien at Area 51 is a getbigger.
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The live alien at Area 51 is a getbigger.
He logs in on Getbig every now and then as Manataur.
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Wonder how this info would be used if released?
If they're deciding to release it, it's probably for a reason and not simple disclosure.
The reason is probably the space race, whatever is out there will be impossible to keep secret once the private companies from Musk, Branson, bezos etc are flying around without any need to keep secrets.So get out ahead of it before that happens.
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https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/34288/senate-intel-committee-pushes-for-unprecedented-public-report-on-ufos
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Ill repost this, because as bizarre as it is to think that a member of Blink 182 is the man who organised this disclosure, he has been briefed by top members of the government,nasa and skunkworks, and has been the man behind the scenes pushing this disclosure.And has called every step so far since 2017 before it happened
Theres an article here on delonge and how he came to form the ttsa, the meetings he went to with the heads of skunkworks, nasa and the pentagon, and what he learned.
Cliffs seem to be the High ups he met agreed it was time for disclosure,they confirmed ufo crashes since the 40s, a life form they communicated with during the cold War that was able to turn on and off nuclear weapons, and that we have cracked gravity and made antigravity machines.
My take from all this is that they want to start mass producing these machines now the space race has kicked off so they do not get left behind by the Chinese and Russians, while also realising its becoming harder to hide them now space is becoming open to all.
the longer version is a complete mindfuck, but Delonge never wavers on any of this, and confirms its been told to him by the highest up there is.
1. Our civilization is and has been manipulated and messed with by what can be interpreted as "gods".
2. These gods mess with us as a form of competition or game amongst themselves.
3. They use religion to pit us humans against one another.
4. They have repeatedly, purposefully and, strategically delivered technological revolutions to humans in the form of UFO crashes.
5. Technology provided to humans was intended to further arm us in our efforts to kill each other.
6. It was during the cold war that humans became savvy to these gods and their manipulations.
7. Since then we have worked tirelessly to invent our own technologies and strategies to defend and fight against these gods.
8. In doing so we have "cracked gravity" and are currently building machines incorporating anti-gravity.
9. The American people should be extremely proud of our defense department and contractors that have made such leaps in technology and should support them in these endeavors.
10. Through art and technology TTSA is a platform that can gently expose the public to this larger reality and therefore assisting in uniting us as a species in support of our global defense.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28377/tom-delonges-origin-story-for-to-the-stars-academy-describes-a-government-info-operation
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Ill repost this, because as bizarre as it is to think that a member of Blink 182 is the man who organised this disclosure, he has been briefed by top members of the government,nasa and skunkworks, and has been the man behind the scenes pushing this disclosure.And has called every step so far since 2017 before it happened
That would fit in with the 'Ancient Astronauts' theory.
Steven Greer on the other hand, in his films, argues that aliens would be peaceful and only want to enlighten humanity. He also says the same about the technology though, that anti-gravity exists and some of what Tom has mentioned. The main difference is he doesn't believe any of the different alien types would be hostile...
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Would love to have an Alien Invasion round out 2020!
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That would fit in with the 'Ancient Astronauts' theory.
Steven Greer on the other hand, in his films, argues that aliens would be peaceful and only want to enlighten humanity. He also says the same about the technology though, that anti-gravity exists and some of what Tom has mentioned. The main difference is he doesn't believe any of the different alien types would be hostile...
I believe Greer started off with good intentions, his 2001 disclosure conference is a goldmine, but he has to earn money and his desert trips to see ufos put me off listening to him.
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The government could also be putting out a false flag type thing as well.
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The government could also be putting out a false flag type thing as well.
That's what Greer argues as well.
He seems to be of the opinion that Tom is working with the government and they will depict possible aliens as a hostile threat and use their own technology to mimic supposed alien craft.
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Deny all you want, full disclosure is coming.
Disclosure of WHAT , NO date NO Location :-\ ??? ::) :P
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The live alien at Area 51 is a getbigger.
Wiggzy now live in Area 51, WOW !.
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That would fit in with the 'Ancient Astronauts' theory.
Steven Greer on the other hand, in his films, argues that aliens would be peaceful and only want to enlighten humanity. He also says the same about the technology though, that anti-gravity exists and some of what Tom has mentioned. The main difference is he doesn't believe any of the different alien types would be hostile...
Whether intentional or not, the outcome for humans would be viewed as hostility. We’ve seen how this plays out with colonization in the past.
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Disclosure of WHAT , NO date NO Location :-\ ??? ::) :P
Huh?
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We don’t have time for space Hebrews seeking additional welfare
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That's what Greer argues as well.
He seems to be of the opinion that Tom is working with the government and they will depict possible aliens as a hostile threat and use their own technology to mimic supposed alien craft.
I know, I watch all of his videos.
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Delonge also says the tic ufos have a connection to Atlantis, an advanced group left, made their own outpost and would influence the world, and thats who the greek gods were.He also says the roswell wreckage had greek writing.
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Joe Rogan interview with Tom DeLonge:
Mentions he was told by a Pentagon official that a body was discovered in UFO wreckage. Still watching, so will see what else he says, will post some cliff notes, but so far some mind-blowing stuff in the interview.
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Cliff notes from interview:
Part I
- Time travel, according to the Pentagon is real, but only in a viewing sense from inside a craft
- UFO engines work by folding time, the 'fabric' of time
- There is a proxy war being waged on Earth between different alien races for resources
- Alien bodies have been recovered, several times in various crashes
- Some of the alien races look very human, 'like you and I'.
- The 'greys' are possibly androids, like clones, like an AI to travel through space
- Believed they could have a transmitter in their head and can send images of what they see
- They have the ability to control thoughts, control body and are what we have called 'demons' in Biblical texts
- Aliens have a connection to Atlantis
- Very advanced group that left after catastrophe and 'hung around' in a small outpost here and throughout time would push civilisation forwards, are who the Greek gods were.
- Roswell wreckage had ancient Greek writing
- The Roswell 'I-beam'
- The words in ancient Greek were: 'Elephtheria' which means 'freedom'
- When Tom spoke to a Pentagon official he was told: 'I didn't read much science fiction as a kid but I read a lot of Greek mythology...'
- They asked him to insert a specific section from Greek mythology in his book 'Sekret Machines'
- Believed that as Sumerians wrote, an advanced race, 'Nephelim', aliens, also mentioned in Genesis, 'messed around with genetics'
- The Sumerians had a detailed model of the Solar System, all the planets including Pluto which was only 'discovered' in 1930
- His job, with the Pentagon, is to release information to the public in 'controlled chunks', as they apparently did not know how to release some information, including technology, to the public without possibly causing panic or freaking people out because not everything is 'hunky dory'....
- Cannot disclose everything but could 'affect the fate of the human race' though not existential, 'but things to worry about'
- Tom says: 'I think there are elements of this subject which are disturbing and I don't think people should know all that shit.'
(To be continued)
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Don't say we didn't warn you! :(
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Cliff notes from interview:
Part I
- Time travel, according to the Pentagon is real, but only in a viewing sense from inside a craft
- UFO engines work by folding time, the 'fabric' of time
- There is a proxy war being waged on Earth between different alien races for resources
- Alien bodies have been recovered, several times in various crashes
- Some of the alien races look very human, 'like you and I'.
- The 'greys' are possibly androids, like clones, like an AI to travel through space
- Believed they could have a transmitter in their head and can send images of what they see
- They have the ability to control thoughts, control body and are what we have called 'demons' in Biblical texts
- Aliens have a connection to Atlantis
- Very advanced group that left after catastrophe and 'hung around' in a small outpost here and throughout time would push civilisation forwards, are who the Greek gods were.
- Roswell wreckage had ancient Greek writing
- The Roswell 'I-beam'
- The words in ancient Greek were: 'Elephtheria' which means 'freedom'
- When Tom spoke to a Pentagon official he was told: 'I didn't read much science fiction as a kid but I read a lot of Greek mythology...'
- They asked him to insert a specific section from Greek mythology in his book 'Sekret Machines'
- Believed that as Sumerians wrote, an advanced race, 'Nephelim', aliens, also mentioned in Genesis, 'messed around with genetics'
- The Sumerians had a detailed model of the Solar System, all the planets including Pluto which was only 'discovered' in 1930
- His job, with the Pentagon, is to release information to the public in 'controlled chunks', as they apparently did not know how to release some information, including technology, to the public without possibly causing panic or freaking people out because not everything is 'hunky dory'....
- Cannot disclose everything but could 'affect the fate of the human race' though not existential, 'but things to worry about'
- Tom says: 'I think there are elements of this subject which are disturbing and I don't think people should know all that shit.'
(To be continued)
When I see "folding time" I know it's bullshit as time is not a physical thing but simply a mental concept.
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When I see "folding time" I know it's bullshit as time is not a physical thing but simply a mental concept.
What do you mean time is a mental concept?
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What do you mean time is a mental concept?
It is simply a measurement we use.
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Cliff Notes from the Interview
Part II
- Anti-gravity devices are possible
- Can create unlimited energy without cables, no fossil fuel
- Provides the technology to 'move through time', creates a reddish tinge when viewing from within craft to outside
- Can allow metal to 'float'
- The footage of an experimental aircraft disappearing in mid-air on Youtube is real
- When UFO craft seem to be appearing and disappearing as they move and appear at different points is because of this technology
- Technology is called an 'Over Unity Machine', name of such a spacecraft machine
- Puts out more power than is put into it
- Could replace atomic power
- Currently partnering with major aerospace organisations to introduce this technology
- Working on using laser beams to launch rockets
- Humans are products of genetic engineering
- There's a lot of 'junk' DNA, parts which are turned off
- Human footprint exists in a fossil from 100 million years ago, footprint is in a dinosaur footprint
- 'Without doubt' humans walked with dinosaurs
- 'Cycles of civilisations', believes 'people on the inside know that'.
- 'Quantum leaps' in our evolution 'are symptoms of affects of being tamp--genetically upgraded'
- Believes preserved Alien bodies do exist and are being kept
- Former CIA official of bio-warfare program is working with Tom as well as several high-ranking retired Generals, Admirals etc
- Name for UFO'S by Pentagon is 'Advanced Aerial Threat'
- According to Tom, like in the film 'Arrival' there is an international group 'working together to figure stuff out'
- Atomic bombs went off on Mars, radioactive signature impossible to be created by nature or impact and this opinion has been peer reviewed by several scientists
- Believes microbial or insect life exists on Mars
- There is probably some form of life on the moon Europa
- Goal of his company, working with government, is to help people gradually understand what is going on and also to be able to introduce the technology
-End goal: to change the world
- Prepare for your worst nightmare of demonic-like beings from a plane of existence on the edges of the universe of such horrors and terror we cannot possibly imagine
- No, not really, I just added that from the film Event Horizon
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The problem is that none of the technology that Greer talks about exists. He's been claiming for decades that free energy devices exist and he was going to bring them to the public but nothing ever happens.
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According to Tom, this footage is real and was deliberately leaked. Supposed to be an experimental aircraft.
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According to Tom, this footage is real and was deliberately leaked:
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Way WAY too many sightings of the tr3b for it to not be real.
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When I see "folding time" I know it's bullshit as time is not a physical thing but simply a mental concept.
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When I see "folding time" I know it's bullshit as time is not a physical thing but simply a mental concept.
He refers to 'space-time', don't know if there is a difference or what it really means.
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He refers to 'space-time', don't know if there is a difference or what it really means.
It's like saying bending unicorn farts.
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According to Tom, this footage is real and was deliberately leaked. Supposed to be an experimental aircraft.
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If you blink 182 times you might miss it.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/politics/pentagon-ufo-harry-reid-navy.html
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Not this shit again, lol. Yeah, fully intact flying saucers from a species so intelligent that it can travel at least 10,000 light years in a flash, but can't make anything as reliable as my Toyota.
>Mr. Davis, who now works for Aerospace Corporation, a defense contractor, said he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.”
>Mr. Davis said he also gave classified briefings on retrievals of unexplained objects to staff members of the Senate Armed Services Committee on Oct. 21, 2019, and to members of the Senate Intelligence Committee two days later.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/politics/pentagon-ufo-harry-reid-navy.html
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good video of tictac shape ufo like the Nimitz
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/politics/pentagon-ufo-harry-reid-navy.html
No NY Toilet Times for sale in my village >:(
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good video of tictac shape ufo like the Nimitz
Why no "UFO" crashes in Amsterdam, Sydney or Monte Carlo ;D
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The live alien at Area 51 is a getbigger.
Hot dog! :o
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We don’t have time for space Hebrews seeking additional welfare
;D
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He refers to 'space-time', don't know if there is a difference or what it really means.
Spacetime is an actual scientific term. It’s like a unit of measurement. I’m not very good at explaining in human terms. We have a word on Mars that clearly defines this (quarlop). But it doesn’t translate into any of your primitive languages
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He refers to 'space-time', don't know if there is a difference or what it really means.
"Space time" is a term used to describe the proven relationship in the universe that exists between large distances, speed, location in the universe and time itself. They are linked.
Prior to the development of the general and special theories of relativity it was believed that time was constant no matter where you were in the universe... That is, it was always "now" at every location in the universe.
Einsteins theories (later experimentally proven), showed that time is "relative" meaning that time itself passes differently at any two different locations, this effect is dependant on differences in speed and or strength of gravitational effects between two given locations of the universe... His theories showed a relationship exists between speed, distance and time. Hence "space time"
Eg if you travel at a speed close to the speed of light time travels slower for you compared to another individual who is stationary. You've seen interstellar? This is real science.
Also see the twins paradox this will give you an idea.
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Why no "UFO" crashes in Amsterdam, Sydney or Monte Carlo ;D
The Westall ufo from Australia, craft landed and was witnessed by hundreds of students, teachers and locals.Arguably the most fascinating ufo encounter.Great video too, the editing is amazing by the uploader.
Notice how in 1966 all the witnesses said the craft turned on its side then shot off, the same as Bob Lazar said in the 80s AND the same as the recently released Navy video where the craft rotates on to its side.
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The Westall ufo from Australia, craft landed and was witnessed by hundreds of students, teachers and locals.Arguably the most fascinating ufo encounter.Great video too, the editing is amazing by the uploader.
Notice how in 1966 all the witnesses said the craft turned on its side then shot off, the same as Bob Lazar said in the 80s AND the same as the recently released Navy video where the craft rotates on to its side.
this was a fascinating watch.
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this was a fascinating watch.
Yeah, its one of the best videos of any kind ive seen on youtube.
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Pentagon Has ‘Off-World Vehicles Not Made on This Earth’
Bombshell: The government’s once-clandestine UFO program will reveal findings on unexplained materials and crashes.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a33413777/pentagon-ufo-program-materials-vehicles/
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Could they be setting up a staged alien invasion to bring in a new world government? Everything is in place to do it now with the worldwide "pandemic", lockdown, and civil unrest.
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Could they be setting up a staged alien invasion to bring in a new world government? Everything is in place to do it now with the worldwide "pandemic", lockdown, and civil unrest.
Nothing would be surprising at this point. :D
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I've never seen any outerwordly activities with my own eyes that would suggest that aliens exist, but then again, given the vastness of the universe it would be far-fetched to assume that we're alone.
I would not be surprised if aliens from others planets existed.
I also wouldn't be surprised if they happen to reveal themselves some time very soon. Would certainly mark a significant turn in human history. Heck, could lead to drastic ends (enslavement or death to all mankind -vs- advancements to science, technology and even medicine).
With all that this year (the strangest year of my life) has brought, it wouldn't be too crazy.
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I've never seen any outerwordly activities with my own eyes that would suggest that aliens exist, but then again, given the vastness of the universe it would be far-fetched to assume that we're alone.
I would not be surprised if aliens from others planets existed.
I also wouldn't be surprised if they happen to reveal themselves some time very soon. Would certainly mark a significant turn in human history. Heck, could lead to drastic ends (enslavement or death to all mankind -vs- advancements to science, technology and even medicine).
With all that this year (the strangest year of my life) has brought, it wouldn't be too crazy.
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lots of rumblings lately that they have been on this planet with us all along, particularly in our oceans.
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another very weird and allegedly authentic video
could be a drone of some sort I guess
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another very weird and allegedly authentic video
yup, this is the next big video.Again the ease in which it enters and exits the water, and possibly (there is some debate) splits in 2.
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lots of rumblings lately that they have been on this planet with us all along, particularly in our oceans.
Illegal aliens, would love to grab a beer with one, I have so many questions to ask. Would also love to time travel. Imagine after a couple of beers we could go back in time to the room 7 next to the ice machine and solve the biggest mystery in the BB industry.
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yup, this is the next big video.Again the ease in which it enters and exits the water, and possibly (there is some debate) splits in 2.
Can you ask E.T. to get us some good 'juice' ;)
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/5/8/21244090/pentagon-ufo-report-navy-alexander-wendt
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/5/8/21244090/pentagon-ufo-report-navy-alexander-wendt
Very interesting article!
Some excerpts:
Alexander Wendt is a professor of international relations at Ohio State University.
Sean Illing
Why would aliens conceal their existence? I know you have theories on this —
Alexander Wendt
It’s possible they’ve been here all along. And that’s something that I’ve been thinking about lately, which is a bit unsettling. Because it means it’s their planet and not ours. They could just be intergalactic tourists. Maybe they’re looking for certain minerals. It could just be scientific curiosity. It could be that they’re extracting our DNA. I mean, who knows? I have no idea. All I know is that if they are here, they seem to be peaceful.
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Sean Illing
You’ve thought about this a lot, Alex. You must have a hunch as to which of those scenarios is most likely.
Alexander Wendt
I think if they are here, they’ve probably been here a very long time — that’s my guess. And, look, there are medieval woodcuts that seem to show UFOs. There are UFO stories in the Bible, apparently, or at least stories that are interpreted that way. So I think they’ve probably been here a long time if they’re here.
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Sean Illing
Is this some kind of conspiracy of silence? How does a taboo like this take hold in the first place?
Alexander Wendt
We argued in our 2008 academic paper that the modern state is what we call anthropocentric. Basically, that means human beings are sovereigns. In ancient times, it was the gods or nature that was thought to rule over everything. Now it’s human beings. And this principle is embodied in the state. And if you call that into question, if you call into question that the state is not the only potential sovereign here, the whole legitimacy of the state is called into question. So the whole worldview of the modern state is very vulnerable to the UFO question. You can’t even ask the question because it raises the possibility that there could be ETs here. And that would just blow everything wide open.
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Sean Illing
Why should scientists care about UFOs? Why should philosophers care? Why should anyone care?
Alexander Wendt
Because if ETs were discovered, it would be the most important event in human history.
Sean Illing
Why?
Alexander Wendt
If it became known, it could be a very dangerous event in the sense that we might see a collapse of state authority. We might see chaos. The possibility of contact with a civilization that has vastly more knowledge than we do is exciting and terrifying and unpredictable.
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Sean Illing
If some of these UFOs are the products of alien life, why haven’t they made their presence more explicit? If they wanted to remain undetected, they could, and yet they continually expose themselves in these semi-clandestine ways. Why?
Alexander Wendt
That’s a very good question. Because you’re right, I think if they wanted to be completely secretive, they could. If they wanted to come out in the open, they could do that, too. My guess is that they have had a lot of experience with this in the past with civilizations at our stage. And they probably know that if they land on the White House lawn, there’ll be chaos and social breakdown. People will start shooting at them.
So I think what they’re doing is trying to get us used to the idea that they’re here with the hopes that we’ll figure it out ourselves, that we’ll go beyond the taboo and do the science. And then maybe we can absorb the knowledge that we’re not alone and our society won’t implode when we finally do have contact. That’s my theory, but who knows, right?
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Alexander Wendt
For governments, there’s no real upside to talking about this. They can’t control this. If there are ETs, they don’t have the power to do anything about it. They’re helpless in the face of ETs. And there’s a big downside risk of social chaos, loss of authority, loss of control and all that. So I think governments have lots of reasons to let a sleeping dog lie, which is why the Navy’s thing is so surprising in a way.
Sean Illing
Maybe several governments already know of ETs and aren’t revealing that knowledge for all the reasons you suggest.
Alexander Wendt
I’m a strong disbeliever in any kind of conspiracy argument. I don’t think there has ever been a conspiracy to cover up the truth that we know that aliens are here. At most, we’ve covered up the fact that we have no idea what’s going on.
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The Westall ufo from Australia, craft landed and was witnessed by hundreds of students, teachers and locals.Arguably the most fascinating ufo encounter.Great video too, the editing is amazing by the uploader.
Notice how in 1966 all the witnesses said the craft turned on its side then shot off, the same as Bob Lazar said in the 80s AND the same as the recently released Navy video where the craft rotates on to its side.
That Australian case was most certainly a military aircraft test.
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That Australian case was most certainly a military aircraft test.
If it was, it was from technology that was not founded by the current human race on earth.The fact they all said it rotated and shot off is too conclusive in my eyes.
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Notice how in 1966 all the witnesses said the craft turned on its side then shot off, the same as Bob Lazar said in the 80s AND the same as the recently released Navy video where the craft rotates on to its side.
So according to Lazar the 'propulsion system is a gravity propulsion system and the power source is an anti-matter reactor'. It uses 'gravity amplifiers' and flies with 'bottom forwards'. Also believes the recently de-classified videos shows such a craft or similar.
In another video he says the craft did not have a bathroom and the control system used a hand print panel which would apparently would rely on thought to control the craft.
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If it was, it was from technology that was not founded by the current human race on earth.The fact they all said it rotated and shot off is too conclusive in my eyes.
It totally could have been created by the current human race. We don't know all they have available. The fact that the military was there that quickly lets you know it was a test. If a space craft of aliens came out of nowhere and appeared above that school it would have taken hours for military jeeps and personnel to get there. I feel for the girl that went crazy from seeing that and being taken away to lose her childhood.
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It totally could have been created by the current human race. We don't know all they have available. The fact that the military was there that quickly lets you know it was a test. If a space craft of aliens came out of nowhere and appeared above that school it would have taken hours for military jeeps and personnel to get there. I feel for the girl that went crazy from seeing that and being taken away to lose her childhood.
In 1966?Not possible.Not unless it was tech given to us.
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In 1966?Not possible.Not unless it was tech given to us.
How could you possibly know that? We have film of the saucer the Nazis were testing in the 1940's.
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How could you possibly know that? We have film of the saucer the Nazis were testing in the 1940's.
Not 'saucer', Die Glocke ;) & is from the 1936 !.
Now, UFO jerks who don't speak German or read old Gothic a "experts" on Deutsche technology !.
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How could you possibly know that? We have film of the saucer the Nazis were testing in the 1940's.
You honestly think Mankind had technology that could create spaceships in the 1960s when the best computer available was the size of a living room and had the computing skills of a TI 82?
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Really ::), nobody in Africa,China,India,Latino America,Australia,Japan,Russia,.... read that paper !.
OBW, why is call New York Toilet Times ?.
Like it or not, the NYT is read by people who actually matter: for instance Western and Chinese, Russian, Indian, Japanese diplomats, politicians and business leaders.
Nobody cares what some ghetto dude is reading. If someone like that can read at all
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Cliff notes from interview:
Part I
- Time travel, according to the Pentagon is real, but only in a viewing sense from inside a craft
- UFO engines work by folding time, the 'fabric' of time
- There is a proxy war being waged on Earth between different alien races for resources
- Alien bodies have been recovered, several times in various crashes
- Some of the alien races look very human, 'like you and I'.
- The 'greys' are possibly androids, like clones, like an AI to travel through space
- Believed they could have a transmitter in their head and can send images of what they see
- They have the ability to control thoughts, control body and are what we have called 'demons' in Biblical texts
- Aliens have a connection to Atlantis
- Very advanced group that left after catastrophe and 'hung around' in a small outpost here and throughout time would push civilisation forwards, are who the Greek gods were.
- Roswell wreckage had ancient Greek writing
- The Roswell 'I-beam'
- The words in ancient Greek were: 'Elephtheria' which means 'freedom'
- When Tom spoke to a Pentagon official he was told: 'I didn't read much science fiction as a kid but I read a lot of Greek mythology...'
- They asked him to insert a specific section from Greek mythology in his book 'Sekret Machines'
- Believed that as Sumerians wrote, an advanced race, 'Nephelim', aliens, also mentioned in Genesis, 'messed around with genetics'
- The Sumerians had a detailed model of the Solar System, all the planets including Pluto which was only 'discovered' in 1930
- His job, with the Pentagon, is to release information to the public in 'controlled chunks', as they apparently did not know how to release some information, including technology, to the public without possibly causing panic or freaking people out because not everything is 'hunky dory'....
- Cannot disclose everything but could 'affect the fate of the human race' though not existential, 'but things to worry about'
- Tom says: 'I think there are elements of this subject which are disturbing and I don't think people should know all that shit.'
(To be continued)
Thanks for the post!
If only part of this is true, it will be the scoop of the century.
Quite remarkable how many people and media sort of dissmissed the navy F18 videos: to my knowledge it was the first officially released footage of craft (drones presumably) that were not made by people.
I'm curious who made them and what such drones are doing here?
Proxy conflict for resources? What can be found on earth that is difficult to get elsewhere in the galaxy?
In case of a crashed drone or parts of it have been found: Reverse engineering might not work:
suppose and Indian in the Amazon rainforest sees a Brazilian air force jet fighter flying past. He will probably be stunned and scared.
Then he hears a lound smash about 150 yards away. One of the aim 9 sidewinders has fallen off and miraculously fell into water / mud and was unscathed.
The Indian is joined by other tribe memebers and they recover the missile.
Now they can reverse engineer it so they too will have air to air missiles!
Point: if the non human tech is too far ahead of ours, how is reverse engineering going to work?
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Like it or not, the NYT is read by people who actually matter: for instance Western and Chinese, Russian, Indian, Japanese diplomats, politicians and business leaders.
Nobody cares what some ghetto dude is reading. If someone like that can read at all
Nobody in St.Petersburg, Delhi,Singapore,Kyoto,Madrid or Sydney give a fuck about the NY Toilet Times !.
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In 1966?Not possible.Not unless it was tech given to us.
It amazes me that you have become an expert who can decide these difficult questions.
You so want to believe that shit that your brain is incapable of discerning the truth. The raw truth is:
There is No hard evidence for ET anything. Period.
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'National security risk': Rubio seeks declassification of UFO secrets
"We have things flying over our military bases and places where we’re conducting military exercises, and we don’t know what it is, and it isn’t ours. So, that’s a legitimate question to ask,"
“I would say that, frankly, that if it’s something outside this planet, that might actually be better than the fact that we’ve seen some technological leap on behalf of the Chinese or the Russians or some other adversary that allows them to conduct this sort of activity.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/national-security-risk-rubio-seeks-declassification-of-ufo-secrets
Ok first of all if china or russia developed new technology that allowed them to fly spacecraft wherever the fuck they wanted and we couldnt stop them the next thing they would do is strategically nuke the fuck out of our defenses. All the top nations keep a close eye on one another the US is probably still best because we spend by FAR the most but nobody is leap frogging anybody anytime soon
#2 if aliens from outer space are flying saucer shaped aircraft all over the fucking place i say good leave them the fuck alone. In fact, leave piles of gold wherever the ufos are seen and then go back to LEAVING THEM BE.
What are we going to do invite them to a baseball game? Well that might actually be cool. Our military however would never let any such thing happen. Its doubtful they need anything from us (except most likely gold) so if we are observing them doing whatever they feel like doing and we are still alive to marvel at it I say good. Aliens are ok. Give them gold and be happy.
Thats my opinion anyway.
I guess the salient question really is this- are we really observing flying saucers from distant galaxies? I doubt we will know for sure until actual life forms (not human of course) tap us on the shoulder and say "" im not sure what they will say. U get my point? ____(ufos will never convince anyone of anything we need actual contact before the idea can become reality. Basically.)
Im kind of assuming these ufo sightings are probably motivated by money insanity stupidity poor vision and some combination of the above.
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Proxy conflict for resources? What can be found on earth that is difficult to get elsewhere in the galaxy?
Obviously gold rubenstein. Gold is not made on or in this planet, in fact it predates our entire solar system. Dont bother asking me to prove what i just wrote you will only embarrass yourself further. Now think for a moment the implications. Gold-not from this planet. Why do humans give a damn about it? Its insanely valuable and desirable why? Cant eat it cant fuck it cant talk to it. Yet going back to probably the beginning of recorded history its the #1 thing humans want?
Humans were seeded on earth to mine gold. I said that 12 years ago on another forum and it gets truer every time i say it.
Provide a logical counter argument if you can.
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Thanks for the post!
If only part of this is true, it will be the scoop of the century.
Quite remarkable how many people and media sort of dissmissed the navy F18 videos: to my knowledge it was the first officially released footage of craft (drones presumably) that were not made by people.
I'm curious who made them and what such drones are doing here?
Proxy conflict for resources? What can be found on earth that is difficult to get elsewhere in the galaxy?
In case of a crashed drone or parts of it have been found: Reverse engineering might not work:
suppose and Indian in the Amazon rainforest sees a Brazilian air force jet fighter flying past. He will probably be stunned and scared.
Then he hears a lound smash about 150 yards away. One of the aim 9 sidewinders has fallen off and miraculously fell into water / mud and was unscathed.
The Indian is joined by other tribe memebers and they recover the missile.
Now they can reverse engineer it so they too will have air to air missiles!
Point: if the non human tech is too far ahead of ours, how is reverse engineering going to work?
No prob.
Regarding resources, Earth could have some unique or rare mineral resources. The Sumerian texts claimed they were mining for gold.
Or they could be harvesting DNA from humans or animals?
I'm busy watching the 'Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers' documentary and Lazar claims that some of the retrieved vehicles are 100 % intact, and 'operate perfectly'. There were apparently 9 of them able to be 'test flown' while others in more damaged states were taken apart.
They were trying to reverse engineer the alien spacecraft, however they could not get any of the reactors to work with earth materials, they tried plutonium but it was a 'futile attempt'. The only material which apparently works is element 15, which has since been added to the periodic table, but is not present on Earth.
I think that with 'reverse engineering', it might be more along the lines of copying some design aspects which our current technology is capable of, or of us understanding, and then incorporating those ideas into new projects. Not creating fully-fledged functioning replicas, though ideally that is probably what they would want to achieve.
Further exploration of the Solar System could probably provide new materials to produce more advanced technology.
It is interesting that the creation of the US Space Force has also coincided with the increasing disclosure.
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No prob.
Regarding resources, Earth could have some unique or rare mineral resources. The Sumerian texts claimed they were mining for gold.
No
Fucking
Way
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No
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According to Zecharia Sitchin's interpretation of those texts at least.
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No prob.
Regarding resources, Earth could have some unique or rare mineral resources. The Sumerian texts claimed they were mining for gold.
Or they could be harvesting DNA from humans or animals?
I'm busy watching the 'Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers' documentary and Lazar claims that some of the retrieved vehicles are 100 % intact, and 'operate perfectly'. There were apparently 9 of them able to be 'test flown' while others in more damaged states were taken apart.
They were trying to reverse engineer the alien spacecraft, however they could not get any of the reactors to work with earth materials, they tried plutonium but it was a 'futile attempt'. The only material which apparently works is element 15, which has since been added to the periodic table, but is not present on Earth.
I think that with 'reverse engineering', it might be more along the lines of copying some design aspects which our current technology is capable of, or of us understanding, and then incorporating those ideas into new projects. Not creating fully-fledged functioning replicas, though ideally that is probably what they would want to achieve.
Further exploration of the Solar System could probably provide new materials to produce more advanced technology.
It is interesting that the creation of the US Space Force has also coincided with the increasing disclosure.
Lazar has always fascinated me.I always believed most of his story, Im very good at seeing when people are lying or trying to decieve, and I get near none of that from Lazar, even when he talks about entering the internals of the craft and examining it.I do think he fudged his educational background as to not effect his current business.The Gimbal video of the craft rotating vindicated him in many peoples eyes.
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According to Zecharia Sitchin's interpretation of those texts at least.
I highly recommend scrolling up oh id say 4 or 5 posts or so before this one.
My post. Read it.
Read. Learn. Know.
All will be revealed.
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Obviously gold rubenstein. Gold is not made on or in this planet, in fact it predates our entire solar system. Dont bother asking me to prove what i just wrote you will only embarrass yourself further. Now think for a moment the implications. Gold-not from this planet. Why do humans give a damn about it? Its insanely valuable and desirable why? Cant eat it cant fuck it cant talk to it. Yet going back to probably the beginning of recorded history its the #1 thing humans want?
Humans were seeded on earth to mine gold. I said that 12 years ago on another forum and it gets truer every time i say it.
Provide a logical counter argument if you can.
Very interesting points!
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Very interesting points!
Thank you.
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Also I got not signs of deception when i watched the people in the Disclosure Project conference in 2001, and couldnt believe it wasnt a bigger deal at the time.
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Also I got not signs of deception when i watched the people in the Disclosure Project conference in 2001, and couldnt believe it wasnt a bigger deal at the time.
i wish i could say the same. i just watched this a hour or so ago after you posted. i have seen this before many times years ago. this time i finally saw it clearly, their motivations. . what was clear. they all say they'll testify to these events in front of congress. as if if that validates everything.
why would congress want them to talk and end their very existence? they know they wont. this is to make money, and thats all they want. yes the tech was real yes they saw things. but they got screwed and were told to shut up. they just want to say f- u and get theirs.
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You honestly think Mankind had technology that could create spaceships in the 1960s when the best computer available was the size of a living room and had the computing skills of a TI 82?
They claim we went to the Moon, didn't they?
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They claim we went to the Moon, didn't they?
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They claim we went to the Moon, didn't they?
The moon mission could be calculated down to each nearest mile before they even blasted off, thats a completely different ball game to these craft that would need to calculate insane computations in real time to do the things they do.You are also comparing crude nazi era experimental saucer craft, that used engine tech founded during the industrial revolution and flight using airflow under wings discovered at the start of the 20th century, to the seemingly anti gravity movements of whatever is flying around our skies making our fighter jets look like a joke.
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Army when is the pentagon information being released?
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No prob.
Regarding resources, Earth could have some unique or rare mineral resources. The Sumerian texts claimed they were mining for gold.
Or they could be harvesting DNA from humans or animals?
I'm busy watching the 'Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers' documentary and Lazar claims that some of the retrieved vehicles are 100 % intact, and 'operate perfectly'. There were apparently 9 of them able to be 'test flown' while others in more damaged states were taken apart.
They were trying to reverse engineer the alien spacecraft, however they could not get any of the reactors to work with earth materials, they tried plutonium but it was a 'futile attempt'. The only material which apparently works is element 15, which has since been added to the periodic table, but is not present on Earth.
I think that with 'reverse engineering', it might be more along the lines of copying some design aspects which our current technology is capable of, or of us understanding, and then incorporating those ideas into new projects. Not creating fully-fledged functioning replicas, though ideally that is probably what they would want to achieve.
Further exploration of the Solar System could probably provide new materials to produce more advanced technology.
It is interesting that the creation of the US Space Force has also coincided with the increasing disclosure.
I think the chinese agression and their attempts to launch more space vehicles, combined with putin's ambitious plans were the main reason vor Space Force?
What I don't get about the non human made drones: if they needed some materials, why not leave once they were obtained, of retrieve them from earth in much larger quantities?
The drones seems to stay for months on end?
From what Lazar is stating there seem to be quite a lot of such craft that crashed or were left behind? Perhaps 15 units in total?
Why did so many crash, or were abandoned even if they were fully operational?
(And why is the USA apparently the only one to have gathered them?)
I agree with the reverse engineering: for example give the 1941 Nazis a brand new F35 and they could not replicate it.
They could however learn from it, and probably improve their existing planes / rockets
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What a sorry collection dunces and gullible people. Bob Lazar is guy with few qualifications and no shame. He is a pathological liar and quite pathetic. No doubt he bullshits to make money. There are no Et on earth, no flying alien saucers, just wishful thinking by broscience experts.
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The truth is that the Bible is an accurate factual accounting of our history. We have nothing to fear but those who fill us with fear. They are the enemy, they must be destroyed.
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What a sorry collection dunces and gullible people. Bob Lazar is guy with few qualifications and no shame. He is a pathological liar and quite pathetic. No doubt he bullshits to make money. There are no Et on earth, no flying alien saucers, just wishful thinking by broscience experts.
If it is fallacy for the members of this forum to speak in absolutes when clearly no one knows anything for certain then you too look foolish speaking with such authority.
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What a sorry collection dunces and gullible people. Bob Lazar is guy with few qualifications and no shame. He is a pathological liar and quite pathetic. No doubt he bullshits to make money. There are no Et on earth, no flying alien saucers, just wishful thinking by broscience experts.
This ALL DAY LONG. They aren't going to show us shit because there's no shit to show. Eat it up fellas. Much ado about nothing.
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What a sorry collection dunces and gullible people. Bob Lazar is guy with few qualifications and no shame. He is a pathological liar and quite pathetic. No doubt he bullshits to make money. There are no Et on earth, no flying alien saucers, just wishful thinking by broscience experts.
Army of 1, should visit Australia & look for the Wandjina (cloud spirit/astronaut ::)) & legendary musclehead Yowie !.
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"Numerous associates of the Pentagon program, with high security clearances and decades of involvement with official U.F.O. investigations, told us they were convinced such crashes have occurred, based on their access to classified information."
"One slide says one of the program’s tasks was to “arrange for access to data/reports/materials from crash retrievals of A.A.V.’s,” or advanced aerospace vehicles.
Our sources told us that “A.A.V.” does not refer to vehicles made in any country — not Russian or Chinese — but is used to mean technology in the realm of the truly unexplained."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/insider/UFO-reporting.html
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There is a slide on the article, taken from Pentagon files that reads:
Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program - AATIP (cont.)
- Twofold nature of threat:
- *Current threat*: AAV phenomena of foreign derivation (including off-world), being globally deployed/tested, including CONUS.
- *Future threat*: Potential terrestrial adversaries achieving significant breakthroughs in the development of game-changing disruptive technologies based on evaluations of AAV phenomena from sensor data or crash/retrieved materials.
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"Numerous associates of the Pentagon program, with high security clearances and decades of involvement with official U.F.O. investigations, told us they were convinced such crashes have occurred, based on their access to classified information."
"One slide says one of the program’s tasks was to “arrange for access to data/reports/materials from crash retrievals of A.A.V.’s,” or advanced aerospace vehicles.
Our sources told us that “A.A.V.” does not refer to vehicles made in any country — not Russian or Chinese — but is used to mean technology in the realm of the truly unexplained."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/insider/UFO-reporting.html
Still no ufo 'crashes' in Sydney,Kyoto & Kinshasa :(
& no sale of NY Toilet Times in those pueblos ?.
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What a sorry collection dunces and gullible people. Bob Lazar is guy with few qualifications and no shame. He is a pathological liar and quite pathetic. No doubt he bullshits to make money. There are no Et on earth, no flying alien saucers, just wishful thinking by broscience experts.
Exactly this. Watching Lazar on the Rogan podcast stooge is having difficulties with some details...claims hes having a bit of a migraine, then proceeds to drink whiskey with joe....because that's how to tame a migraine
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I tend to agree with Calvin of "Calvin and Hobbes" fame. We know there's intelligent life out there because it hasn't landed here.
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There must be a lot of Aliens, E.T.'s , Blobs & other space creatures on this site ;D
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Guaranteed their going to say the aliens hate Trump but love Joe Biden.
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Guaranteed their going to say the aliens hate Trump but love Joe Biden.
Only the illegal ones. ;D
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What a sorry collection dunces and gullible people. Bob Lazar is guy with few qualifications and no shame. He is a pathological liar and quite pathetic. No doubt he bullshits to make money. There are no Et on earth, no flying alien saucers, just wishful thinking by broscience experts.
You have no clue what you're talking about but if you have proof Lazar is a pathological liar or that he "bullshits" to make money lets see it
BTW - you're the last one here who should be talking about broscience
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It all started with the first UFO photograph, taken by Kenneth Arnold in 1947 while he was driving, that was misreported and if you look at the photo was clearly a blurred photograph from a car traveling one way and some objects traveling the other, so with older cameras the shutter speed,etc just blurs motion, especially at high speeds. Right after published is when everyone started seeing UFO saucers. Almost always the flying saucer, because it's now American lore so people follow the script. As the myth got more elaborate, everyone now saw the same beings, big head, greys,etc. Now everyone reports seeing those beings. Pure group think, all these guys like Richard Hoagland and Bob Lazar can explain in scientific terms all their bullshit, but in the end they have NO evidence, so they are living on the story that the government is covering it up. Guaranteed they don't have government clearance to know either way what the government is doing. Whenever you discuss actual proof UFO guys end up with the same thing; someone saw a light in the sky they can't explain.
TIME MAGAZINE
It’s credited as the first modern UFO sighting and the origin of America’s obsession with flying saucers. But it might have all been based on what The Atlantic calls “one of the most significant reporter misquotes in history.”
On this day, June 24, in 1947, an amateur pilot was on his way to an air show in Oregon when he saw a bright blue flash of light in the sky near Mount Rainier. At first he thought it was the sun glinting off another aircraft, but the only other plane around was about 15 mi. away, and not glinting. Then he saw nine more flashes of light, in quick succession — coming from what he later described as unidentified flying objects.
It was when the pilot, Kenneth Arnold, tried to describe the motion of the objects to a reporter for the United Press that the mix-up occurred. He said they flew “like a saucer if you skip it across the water.” The reporter took this to mean that the objects themselves were saucer-like, and news reports across the country repeated that Arnold had seen “flying saucers.”
Suddenly everyone was seeing what Arnold had seen, except that he hadn’t. “By July 4, newspapers were heralding literally hundreds of reports of ‘flying saucers’ in skies across the nation.”
Shortly after came the "UFO Researchers", like George Adamski in the late 40's who sold novels and photos of the supposed crafts along with details of their space ships and the world of UFOlogy was born. Now people have abductions, grand theories that they are either here to hurt us or save us from ourselves. All concepts from the lore, such as the Twilight Zone episodes.
No one can explain how these things travel light years to get here, they just vaguely say time warp or black hole or some unproven bullshit. If these are beings, they would be of organic material and would never live long enough to get from the nearest possible star with life to Earth.. We are not being visited. Physics and Astronomy are real. They simply could not travel here in a physical craft with living beings, due to the time it would take. Without some new concept of physics and time. And we do not have that concept yet. So we have NO evidence of UFOs. In fact now that everyone has cell phones, the sighting reports and photos have gone way down, which one would think they would go up, as everyone could capture these things in HD on their phone. But we still just have those random lights in the sky.
But the myth has made a lot of people very rich in the world of Science Fiction
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Some people claim they are interdimensional beings that live on Earth. These people are also usually religious and believe they are demons.
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It all started with the first UFO photograph, taken by Kenneth Arnold in 1947 while he was driving, that was misreported and if you look at the photo was clearly a blurred photograph from a car traveling one way and some objects traveling the other, so with older cameras the shutter speed,etc just blurs motion, especially at high speeds. Right after published is when everyone started seeing UFO saucers. Almost always the flying saucer, because it's now American lore so people follow the script. As the myth got more elaborate, everyone now saw the same beings, big head, greys,etc. Now everyone reports seeing those beings. Pure group think, all these guys like Richard Hoagland and Bob Lazar can explain in scientific terms all their bullshit, but in the end they have NO evidence, so they are living on the story that the government is covering it up. Guaranteed they don't have government clearance to know either way what the government is doing. Whenever you discuss actual proof UFO guys end up with the same thing; someone saw a light in the sky they can't explain.
TIME MAGAZINE
It’s credited as the first modern UFO sighting and the origin of America’s obsession with flying saucers. But it might have all been based on what The Atlantic calls “one of the most significant reporter misquotes in history.”
On this day, June 24, in 1947, an amateur pilot was on his way to an air show in Oregon when he saw a bright blue flash of light in the sky near Mount Rainier. At first he thought it was the sun glinting off another aircraft, but the only other plane around was about 15 mi. away, and not glinting. Then he saw nine more flashes of light, in quick succession — coming from what he later described as unidentified flying objects.
It was when the pilot, Kenneth Arnold, tried to describe the motion of the objects to a reporter for the United Press that the mix-up occurred. He said they flew “like a saucer if you skip it across the water.” The reporter took this to mean that the objects themselves were saucer-like, and news reports across the country repeated that Arnold had seen “flying saucers.”
Suddenly everyone was seeing what Arnold had seen, except that he hadn’t. “By July 4, newspapers were heralding literally hundreds of reports of ‘flying saucers’ in skies across the nation.”
Shortly after came the "UFO Researchers", like George Adamski in the late 40's who sold novels and photos of the supposed crafts along with details of their space ships and the world of UFOlogy was born. Now people have abductions, grand theories that they are either here to hurt us or save us from ourselves. All concepts from the lore, such as the Twilight Zone episodes.
No one can explain how these things travel light years to get here, they just vaguely say time warp or black hole or some unproven bullshit. If these are beings, they would be of organic material and would never live long enough to get from the nearest possible star with life to Earth.. We are not being visited. Physics and Astronomy are real. They simply could not travel here in a physical craft with living beings, due to the time it would take. Without some new concept of physics and time. And we do not have that concept yet. So we have NO evidence of UFOs. In fact now that everyone has cell phones, the sighting reports and photos have gone way down, which one would think they would go up, as everyone could capture these things in HD on their phone. But we still just have those random lights in the sky.
But the myth has made a lot of people very rich in the world of Science Fiction
High 90 odd percent of sightings are bullshit for sure, but there are too many credible witnesses now, along with radar capture and certain videos.No way Rubio and the like are sticking their neck on the line talking about this unless their classified briefings are very certain about intelligent flying objects way beyond anything the usa has.
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Some people claim they are interdimensional beings that live on Earth. These people are also usually religious and believe they are demons.
WIGGSY , ;D
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I tend to agree with Calvin of "Calvin and Hobbes" fame. We know there's intelligent life out there because it hasn't landed here.
:D
I'd forgotten all about these guys! Thank you 8)
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I'd forgotten all about these guys! Thank you 8)
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As with "Peanuts", there's a lot of wisdom in "Calvin and Hobbes". And fun. Lots of fun! Thanks brother!
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WIGGSY , ;D
Yeah, that is also a popular opinion on several of those religious broadcasting channels. Tom Horn seems to be leading the charge for this movement. He has a program called Skywatch TV. People like L.A. Marzulli are guests.
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Kwon, do U like new (French) version of "War of the Worlds" , love those dogs :D
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Kwon, do U like new (French) version of "War of the Worlds" , love those dogs :D
This series?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_(2019_TV_series)
Thanks for the tip, will watch!
Holy shit, aging of peace
I remember her from 80s and 90s movies
Didn't recognize her at first!
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This series?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_(2019_TV_series)
Thanks for the tip, will watch!
Holy shit, aging of peace
I remember her from 80s and 90s movies
Didn't recognize her at first!
This French version kills Tom Cruise lemonade film.
You will like those dogs :D
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NYT is very small fry compared to media like the BBC, most people outside the states have never heard of it. It's like the guardian, small little fake news outlet full of jewish subversive types making up stories all day.
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NYT is very small fry compared to media like the BBC, most people outside the states have never heard of it. It's like the guardian, small little fake news outlet full of jewish subversive types making up stories all day.
really? isn't it owned by Bezos?
EDIT: no its not. Bezos bought Washington Post. he seems to have a soft spot for the Commies though
https://townhall.com/columnists/christalgo/2020/08/08/bezos-propaganda-ragnewspaper-praises-communist-china-n2573941
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really? isn't it owned by Bezos?
I have no idea what he is talking about.Its widely considered the worlds number 1 paper and the most influential.A simple google search tells you all you need to know.
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really? isn't it owned by Bezos?
Bezos owns The Washington Post. He was successfully sued big time a couple of weeks ago, by a boy from Kentucky [who turned 18 on the day the case was settled]. Look up Nicholas Sandmann.
Jewish/Lebanese billionaire Carlos Slim may have bought a controlling interest in the New York Times at one point, but I can't remember for certain.
The original Jewish family that owned the NYT may have sold it to other Jews though.
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Bezos owns The Washington Post. He was successfully sued big time a couple of weeks ago, by a boy from Kentucky [who turned 18 on the day the case was settled]. Look up Nicholas Sandmann.
Jewish/Lebanese billionaire Carlos Slim may have bought a controlling interest in the New York Times at one point, but I can't remember for certain.
The original Jewish family that owned the NYT may have sold it to other Jews though.
thanks for correcting me. I had my billionaires all mixed up.
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It all started with the first UFO photograph, taken by Kenneth Arnold in 1947 while he was driving, that was misreported and if you look at the photo was clearly a blurred photograph from a car traveling one way and some objects traveling the other, so with older cameras the shutter speed,etc just blurs motion, especially at high speeds. Right after published is when everyone started seeing UFO saucers. Almost always the flying saucer, because it's now American lore so people follow the script. As the myth got more elaborate, everyone now saw the same beings, big head, greys,etc. Now everyone reports seeing those beings. Pure group think, all these guys like Richard Hoagland and Bob Lazar can explain in scientific terms all their bullshit, but in the end they have NO evidence, so they are living on the story that the government is covering it up. Guaranteed they don't have government clearance to know either way what the government is doing. Whenever you discuss actual proof UFO guys end up with the same thing; someone saw a light in the sky they can't explain.
TIME MAGAZINE
It’s credited as the first modern UFO sighting and the origin of America’s obsession with flying saucers. But it might have all been based on what The Atlantic calls “one of the most significant reporter misquotes in history.”
On this day, June 24, in 1947, an amateur pilot was on his way to an air show in Oregon when he saw a bright blue flash of light in the sky near Mount Rainier. At first he thought it was the sun glinting off another aircraft, but the only other plane around was about 15 mi. away, and not glinting. Then he saw nine more flashes of light, in quick succession — coming from what he later described as unidentified flying objects.
It was when the pilot, Kenneth Arnold, tried to describe the motion of the objects to a reporter for the United Press that the mix-up occurred. He said they flew “like a saucer if you skip it across the water.” The reporter took this to mean that the objects themselves were saucer-like, and news reports across the country repeated that Arnold had seen “flying saucers.”
Suddenly everyone was seeing what Arnold had seen, except that he hadn’t. “By July 4, newspapers were heralding literally hundreds of reports of ‘flying saucers’ in skies across the nation.”
Shortly after came the "UFO Researchers", like George Adamski in the late 40's who sold novels and photos of the supposed crafts along with details of their space ships and the world of UFOlogy was born. Now people have abductions, grand theories that they are either here to hurt us or save us from ourselves. All concepts from the lore, such as the Twilight Zone episodes.
No one can explain how these things travel light years to get here, they just vaguely say time warp or black hole or some unproven bullshit. If these are beings, they would be of organic material and would never live long enough to get from the nearest possible star with life to Earth.. We are not being visited. Physics and Astronomy are real. They simply could not travel here in a physical craft with living beings, due to the time it would take. Without some new concept of physics and time. And we do not have that concept yet. So we have NO evidence of UFOs. In fact now that everyone has cell phones, the sighting reports and photos have gone way down, which one would think they would go up, as everyone could capture these things in HD on their phone. But we still just have those random lights in the sky.
But the myth has made a lot of people very rich in the world of Science Fiction
Events such as this seem credible:
www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28231/multiple-f-a-18-pilots-disclose-recent-ufos-encounters-new-radar-tech-key-in-detection
(https://www.raytheon.com/sites/default/files/2017-12/rtn_475605.jpg)
Professional pilots, radar, infrared and visual confirmation.
The only thing missing is a video
(The person who can offer a clear video of a flying object not made by people can make serious money if a large media network buys that footage)
I guess what they saw was a drone flown by software or artificial intelligence.
But: why did those drones present themselves to the pilots? With such technology it would have been possible to stay undetected.
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every single sighting is man made or reverse engineered, but still all man made and tested.
you have to remember, man made up god, so he could forgive himself and never be accountable for his actions.. how fucked is that?
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every single sighting is man made or reverse engineered, but still all man made and tested.
you have to remember, man made up god, so he could forgive himself and never be accountable for his actions.. how fucked is that?
If these crashed craft exist, and are damaged, then full reverse engineering is most likely not possible due to materials which do not exist on Earth as well as probably not being able to fully understand it with current science. However, some aspects might be able to be copied or inspire new technology or designs.
Also, if these craft crashed in the first place, then whoever built them could still be using others.
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If these crashed craft exist, and are damaged, then full reverse engineering is most likely not possible due to materials which do not exist on Earth as well as probably not being able to fully understand it with current science. However, some aspects might be able to be copied or inspire new technology or designs.
Also, if these craft crashed in the first place, then whoever built them could still be using others.
you know nothing about nothing. the tech you think exist and you might use, is 50-70- years old.
crystals grow, and in a geometricall perfect shapes,with right angles. why do you think that is? how can you cut a crystal and its perfectly clean on its edges? no shards. crystals grow.
your dumb ass phone has a liquid crystal screen.
emails, phone, all used in WW2
you know nothing. im not saying i know, cause that would be imbicile
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every single sighting is man made or reverse engineered, but still all man made and tested.
you have to remember, man made up god, so he could forgive himself and never be accountable for his actions.. how fucked is that?
therefore he was given it
anyone who believes we are alone is a fool
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alone in this planetary system very well could be. overall universe of course not.
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alone in this planetary system very well could be. overall universe of course not.
what we know off..which is nothing
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you know nothing about nothing. the tech you think exist and you might use, is 50-70- years old.
crystals grow, and in a geometricall perfect shapes,with right angles. why do you think that is? how can you cut a crystal and its perfectly clean on its edges? no shards. crystals grow.
your dumb ass phone has a liquid crystal screen.
emails, phone, all used in WW2
you know nothing. im not saying i know, cause that would be imbicile
So what are you trying to say? ???
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So what are you trying to say? ???
that all sightings are man made and are test flights.
if there were aliens in the region of the universe they would have smashed us into oblivion. not trying to evade us or "hide".
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that all sightings are man made and are test flights.
if there were aliens in the region of the universe they would have smashed us into oblivion. not trying to evade us or "hide".
Or just come down and openly communicate with us. Why would they only communicate with the world leaders? How would they even know how to find the leaders in the first place?
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The latest stuff coming out is a complete mindfuck.Basically the theory in the government is that these craft seen through time appear as a shape/object etc the viewer wants to see.So in the 1900s mechanical airships were seen, inline with the industrial revolution, before chariots were seen, in the 50s rugged metal saucers, like the planes and cars of the time were seen, in 2004 aka ipod era white smooth tictac objects were seen.Whatever it is is able to manipulate our consciousness etc.
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Or just come down and openly communicate with us. Why would they only communicate with the world leaders? How would they even know how to find the leaders in the first place?
who the fuck assumes they talk to world leaders? you lossing your mind on yoooootube?
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If "they" can travel the universe then they no doubt can make themselves invisible to us too = they are here, always have been :D
Who the hell knows, anything's possible :D
The latest stuff coming out is a complete mindfuck.Basically the theory in the government is that these craft seen through time appear as a shape/object etc the viewer wants to see.So in the 1900s mechanical airships were seen, inline with the industrial revolution, before chariots were seen, in the 50s rugged metal saucers, like the planes and cars of the time were seen, in 2004 aka ipod era white smooth tictac objects were seen.Whatever it is is able to manipulate our consciousness etc.
Do you have some link to where this theory is discussed?
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The latest stuff coming out is a complete mindfuck.Basically the theory in the government is that these craft seen through time appear as a shape/object etc the viewer wants to see.So in the 1900s mechanical airships were seen, inline with the industrial revolution, before chariots were seen, in the 50s rugged metal saucers, like the planes and cars of the time were seen, in 2004 aka ipod era white smooth tictac objects were seen.The theory is whatever it is is able to manipulate our consciousness etc.
i just think your mind is fucked.
sitting all day watching and posting the videos you see. i wouldnt want your nightmares.
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i just think your mind is fucked.
sitting all day watching and posting the videos you see. i wouldnt want your nightmares.
Ive been here for 15 years, seen many posters, and your posts stand out as unfunny, and not interesting or intellectual.I wouldnt want to be in your head with how dull it must be.
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that all sightings are man made and are test flights.
if there were aliens in the region of the universe they would have smashed us into oblivion. not trying to evade us or "hide".
The F18 pilots thought it was theoretically possible that they were seeing drones made by Americans. Untill two F18 planes nearly got hit by one. No drone operator would have permission to fly in such dangerous ways.
Almost causing lethal crashes.
That to them then ruled out they were operated / made by some branch of the American armed forces network.
(The risk aliens might be very hostile seems real to me. It might be extremely risky for mankind to actively seek contact with advanced species)
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The F18 pilots thought it was theoretically possible that they were seeing drones made by Americans. Untill two F18 planes nearly got hit by one. No drone operator would have permission to fly in such dangerous ways.
Almost causing lethal crashes.
That to them then ruled out they were operated / made by some branch of the American armed forces network.
(The risk aliens might be very hostile seems real to me. It might be extremely risky for mankind to actively seek contact with advanced species)
you think they give a shit about crashing their own planes? can just make more. the fear of the "sightings" is more profitable and usable.
no one cares about lives. that isnt what the military is after.
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who the fuck assumes they talk to world leaders? you lossing your mind on yoooootube?
The UFO people claim they do. They even claim we have a live alien at one of the military bases.
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I find this one interesting...
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I find this one interesting...
"declassified" lols
helium baloon doesnt answer back to the pilots? thats weird
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"declassified" lols
helium baloon doesnt answer back to the pilots? thats weird
Why would helium at 760 mm Hg and below (so floating) and therefore only slightly over zero Celcius be visible on passive or even active IR..?
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It’s moving slow it’s not maneuvering
What do you think it is ?
Green man rocket ship ?