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Are they worth taking? What's the consensus here on Getbig regarding multivitamins and vitamins supplements in general?
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you're better off taking these instead
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for context, I grabbed my crotch as I typed the word "these"
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Are they worth taking? What's the consensus here on Getbig regarding multivitamins and vitamins supplements in general?
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for context, I grabbed my crotch as I typed the word "these"
lol
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Why would they not work, your body needs a huge variety of vitamins and minerals for healing
Imagine if you thought like me. Take 100 random people and make a 2 inch long cut with a razor knife. Give half megadoses of nutritional yeast. Guess wich group heals faster
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Just blend some organic fruit and veg. Shitamins are a waste of money.
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Depends on your age. The older you are the more you'll benefit from them.
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Sure, why not take a multivitamin. They're cheap.
And they make your urine a pretty yellow.
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I know Palumbo swears by them, but he laughs at brands like Centrum saying you can't fit all those ingredients in one pill and the vitamins they use aren't really absorbed because they're not chelated? So..not sure what's what really.
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Yes for sure. Vitamins are even prescribed by doctors so you know you need them. Both Vit C and vit D boosts immune system which is extra needed with the Covid thing. I've not gotten sick at all last year even through the covid and I've been on high dose vitamins. For sure has benefited me.
Funny story... Somalians in Sweden are prescribed vitamin D for free by goverment because they don't get enough sun here and they wear full cover clothes all the time.for their black skin.
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I know Palumbo swears by them, but he laughs at brands like Centrum saying you can't fit all those ingredients in one pill and the vitamins they use aren't really absorbed because they're not chelated? So..not sure what's what really.
That's minerals not much of an issue with vitamins.
Centrum isn't great, but it's not completely useless.
The whole vitamin, minerals and b complexes stuff is a bit of a pain. Some are absorbed better with food some without. The easiest thing to do is buy a really good quality multi and have half a pill in the morning with breakfast and half later in the day on an empty stomach.
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Most of the stuff isn't needed if your diet is good... But many have shit diets so...
Must have supplements Imo are
vitamin d3, 30-40000 iu once a week
Zinc 15-30 mgs day
Magnesium 300-500 mgs day (diahorrea indicates you can lower the dose)
Maybe a B complex
Most of everything else you should be able to get from your diet.
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Who the hell knows. They are controversial among the experts who study these things. Sometimes they can be
outright harmful. For example, B vitamins seem to increase cancer rates in smokers. Some studies show increased mortality among those who take vitamins/antioxidants. Correlation or causation? Who knows. Some experts say iron should never be taken by men and copper should not be taken by anyone, unless adviced by a doctor looking at your blood work. This is why some offer multivitamins either with or without these ingredients. It's complicated.
I'm due for a iron drip next week. :D
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Who the hell knows. They are controversial among the experts who study these things. Sometimes they can be
outright harmful. For example, B vitamins seem to increase cancer rates in smokers. Some studies show increased mortality among those who take vitamins/antioxidants. Correlation or causation? Who knows. Some experts say iron should never be taken by men and copper should not be taken by anyone, unless adviced by a doctor looking at your blood work. This is why some offer multivitamins either with or without these ingredients. It's complicated.
I'm due for a iron drip next week. :D
What causes low iron? My girl has to get infusions every so often. It's not like we don't chow down on plenty of red meat and broccoli and supplement c.
Any advice you can give is much appreciated, VB.
PS - Why are you taking it when some guys say not to?
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What causes low iron? My girl has to get infusions every so often. It's not like we don't chow down on plenty of red meat and broccoli and supplement c.
Any advice you can give is much appreciated, VB.
PS - Why are you taking it when some guys say not to?
If shes still has low iron yet your following the same protocol then its moronic to expect van billy to help
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What causes low iron? My girl has to get infusions every so often. It's not like we don't chow down on plenty of red meat and broccoli and supplement c.
Any advice you can give is much appreciated, VB.
PS - Why are you taking it when some guys say not to?
A woman's monthly period causes low iron in some women.
Men should never take iron supplements.
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If shes still has low iron yet your following the same protocol then its moronic to expect van billy to help
He seems like a well informed guy generally, and it's likely he'll have a lot of information about iron since he takes it.
Did you have anything to offer the discussion about iron or multivitamins?
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Who the hell knows. They are controversial among the experts who study these things. Sometimes they can be
outright harmful. For example, B vitamins seem to increase cancer rates in smokers. Some studies show increased mortality among those who take vitamins/antioxidants. Correlation or causation? Who knows. Some experts say iron should never be taken by men and copper should not be taken by anyone, unless adviced by a doctor looking at your blood work. This is why some offer multivitamins either with or without these ingredients. It's complicated.
I'm due for a iron drip next week. :D
It's the fat soluble vitamins/antioxidants that you need to be careful with. A, D, E and K
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He seems like a well informed guy generally, and it's likely he'll have a lot of information about iron since he takes it.
Did you have anything to offer the discussion about iron or multivitamins?
no im well informed i just pointed out your false mindset . I think it went over your head
Shes likely experiencing inflamation resulting in low iron. She'll need iodine and selenium gomez
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A woman's monthly period causes low iron in some women.
Men should never take iron supplements.
They are characterized as "heavy." I have no firsthand knowledge. She won't let me near it. Apparently it's like a Tarantino scene.
I should add that she goes through phases where she complains of feeling bloated after eating. When it's real bad, even just a half cup of coffee. Yes, I'm asking getbig for health advice because doctors here were fucking useless on the gut thing.
Iron assays indicate that she doesn't recover after a period. She eats iron. Doesn't have iron. I conclude she's not absorbing iron. Would love to get to the bottom of it.
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no im well informed i just pointed out your false mindset . I think it went over your head
Shes likely experiencing inflamation resulting in low iron. She'll need iodine and selenium gomez
Googing iodine & selenium as related to iron now. Gracias, Campeon.
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It's the fat soluble vitamins/antioxidants that you need to be careful with. A, D, E and K
u cant eat enough carrots or kale or get enough sunlight
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What causes low iron? My girl has to get infusions every so often. It's not like we don't chow down on plenty of red meat and broccoli and supplement c.
Any advice you can give is much appreciated, VB.
PS - Why are you taking it when some guys say not to?
B12 deficiency can cause low iron levels (pernicious anaemia)
Don't use the microwave to nuke veg as it kills b12.
Take a methyl b12 supplement, if that doesn't help try a spray or patch. If it's still not helping then regular b12 injections.
Also get extra folic acid, magnesium and potassium into the diet or supplement them.
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u cant eat enough carrots or kale or get enough sunlight
Stick to talking about grass clippings and sniffing paint bro
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B12 deficiency can cause low iron levels (pernicious anaemia)
Don't use the microwave to nuke veg as it kills b12.
Take a methyl b12 supplement, if that doesn't help try a spray or patch. If it's still not helping then regular b12 injections.
Also get extra folic acid, magnesium and potassium into the diet or supplement them.
Thanks bro. Will do some reading up on that and see if her past bloodwork checked on these.
The free doctor in Australia pretty much gives you what you pay for. Not much looking into root causes to find long term solutions.
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Multi vitamins are good if not taken everyday. It takes more than 24 hours to become vitamin deficient......... a lot more.
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What causes low iron? My girl has to get infusions every so often. It's not like we don't chow down on plenty of red meat and broccoli and supplement c.
Any advice you can give is much appreciated, VB.
PS - Why are you taking it when some guys say not to?
The drip is prescribed by a doctor. He does not know for sure why it's low. A while back I got the swineflu which put me on a respirator and I had a number of complications as a result.
I've been on a number of medications since, and regular blood work. Maybe it's the drugs, I don't know, or maybe I had it previously without knowing. I had one drip already, had to sit in the office for a half hour looking out for allergic shock.
Does your GF feel it when her iron is low, eg fatigue? I was asked if I had more energy after the drip but I couldn't really feel it. I'm feeling pretty tired now, hopefully it gives me a jolt of energy this time.
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Thanks bro. Will do some reading up on that and see if her past bloodwork checked on these.
The free doctor in Australia pretty much gives you what you pay for. Not much looking into root causes to find long term solutions.
B12 deficiency can cause nausea and bloating like you mentioned. It also easy to miss when it comes to diagnosis so doctors can be reluctant to treat it. A lot of people end up having to treat themselves. The good thing is that it's pretty cheap and it's not something you need to worry about overdosing. Any extra b12 in your body will just end up in your urine.
Good luck with it.
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Who the hell knows. They are controversial among the experts who study these things. Sometimes they can be
outright harmful. For example, B vitamins seem to increase cancer rates in smokers. Some studies show increased mortality among those who take vitamins/antioxidants. Correlation or causation? Who knows. Some experts say iron should never be taken by men and copper should not be taken by anyone, unless adviced by a doctor looking at your blood work. This is why some offer multivitamins either with or without these ingredients. It's complicated.
I'm due for a iron drip next week. :D
It's Vitamin E that has been shown to increase cancer rates in smokers.
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The drip is prescribed by a doctor. He does not know for sure why it's low. A while back I got the swineflu which put me on a respirator and I had a number of complications as a result.
I've been on a number of medications since, and regular blood work. Maybe it's the drugs, I don't know, or maybe I had it previously without knowing. I had one drip already, had to sit in the office for a half hour looking out for allergic shock.
Does your GF feel it when her iron is low, eg fatigue? I was asked if I had more energy after the drip but I couldn't really feel it. I'm feeling pretty tired now, hopefully it gives me a jolt of energy this time.
She has made bloodwork appointments in the past based on how she feels and they inevitably recommend a transfusion. Not edge of death or anything but they prescribed. She hasn't ever gone in for bloodwork when feeling fine, however, so whose to say if that would have come back low also, since there were at least a couple heavy periods between transfusions?
She hasn't had a test or transfusion for awhile but I remember her saying she felt a bit better, but it wasn't like night and day. Mind you, there were complicating factors as well, being stressed to tears with a nightmare foster kid, who is thankfully history (violent little bastard).
You're a Swede, right? Now... you can't mention The Rona without politics running off with the damn thread but I use Sundstrom safety gear which comes from your neck of the woods. Their SR200 mask is the duck's nuts, coupled with their SR510 P3 filter which they claim filters virus sized particles, your risk would be greatly reduced.
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The drip is prescribed by a doctor. He does not know for sure why it's low. A while back I got the swineflu which put me on a respirator and I had a number of complications as a result.
I've been on a number of medications since, and regular blood work. Maybe it's the drugs, I don't know, or maybe I had it previously without knowing. I had one drip already, had to sit in the office for a half hour looking out for allergic shock.
Does your GF feel it when her iron is low, eg fatigue? I was asked if I had more energy after the drip but I couldn't really feel it. I'm feeling pretty tired now, hopefully it gives me a jolt of energy this time.
That sucks^
I have issues with fatigue myself due to severe sinus problems. It's a grind.
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Eating a mostly animal based, whole food, high fat low carb diet, these are all the multivitamins and multiminerals I need:
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B12 deficiency can cause nausea and bloating like you mentioned. It also easy to miss when it comes to diagnosis so doctors can be reluctant to treat it. A lot of people end up having to treat themselves. The good thing is that it's pretty cheap and it's not something you need to worry about overdosing. Any extra b12 in your body will just end up in your urine.
Good luck with it.
Thanks, man. That autoimmune pernicious anemia seems a likely candidate. Will investigate whether it's a periodic thing since her issues seem to come and go. Been convinced for awhile that digestive issues and iron malabsorption were likely linked.
Late here and got an early start tomorrow. Thanks for indulging me, you guys. Getbig knows all.
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You're a Swede, right? Now... you can't mention The Rona without politics running off with the damn thread but I use Sundstrom safety gear which comes from your neck of the woods. Their SR200 mask is the duck's nuts, coupled with their SR510 P3 filter which they claim filters virus sized particles, your risk would be greatly reduced.
Yes I'm in Sweden. I don't know if I could handle a mask like that all day, would probably feel claustrophobic. ;)
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B12 deficiency can cause nausea and bloating like you mentioned. It also easy to miss when it comes to diagnosis so doctors can be reluctant to treat it. A lot of people end up having to treat themselves. The good thing is that it's pretty cheap and it's not something you need to worry about overdosing. Any extra b12 in your body will just end up in your urine.
Good luck with it.
This is something I haven't considered. Have to check if any of my contacts have those amps or ask my doc.
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Multi vitamins are good if not taken everyday. It takes more than 24 hours to become vitamin deficient......... a lot more.
Although I agree you should take extend breaks if you take fat soluble vitamins, you also wouldn't want to wait until you're deficient in something before you address it.
You'd also be surprised how many conditions can be traced back to a deficiency. Lower back problems, neurological conditions, depression, low testosterone, vision problems, heart issues, thyroid issues. In a lot of cases once the damage is done it's difficult to reverse.
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Who the hell knows. They are controversial among the experts who study these things. Sometimes they can be
outright harmful. For example, B vitamins seem to increase cancer rates in smokers. Some studies show increased mortality among those who take vitamins/antioxidants. Correlation or causation? Who knows. Some experts say iron should never be taken by men and copper should not be taken by anyone, unless adviced by a doctor looking at your blood work. This is why some offer multivitamins either with or without these ingredients. It's complicated.
I'm due for a iron drip next week. :D
would that be hemi iron my friend?
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This is something I haven't considered. Have to check if any of my contacts have those amps or ask my doc.
If it does turn out to be the case try remember that you will feel worse for a while before you start feeling better.
You also mention taking a lot of medications. Are you taking a PPI? Long term use can also lead to iron deficiency .
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I know Palumbo swears by them, but he laughs at brands like Centrum saying you can't fit all those ingredients in one pill and the vitamins they use aren't really absorbed because they're not chelated? So..not sure what's what really.
If you wanna look as good and healthy as this man then follow his advice
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If it does turn out to be the case try remember that you will feel worse for a while before you start feeling better.
You also mention taking a lot of medications. Are you taking a PPI? Long term use can also lead to iron deficiency .
As a matter of fact I do. After you posted I looked at causes of b12 deficiency and noticed the PPI, have read it before but had made no connection. I have had major problems with heartburn for years and lately have used a lot of omeprazole.
This last month it's gotten so bad that I need to book an appointment just for that.
I'm also nauseous with poor appetite and nausea is another symptom of b12 deficiency.
Thanks for bringing this up.
would that be hemi iron my friend?
You mean in the drip? I don't know, didn't even look at the bag or dose, but I guess no. Doc said he opted for an infusion because orals tend to fuck up your stomach.
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Yes, I prefer mine in the form of scotch
Bench
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Eating a mostly animal based, whole food, high fat low carb diet, these are all the multivitamins and multiminerals I need:
(https://www.vmcdn.ca/f/files/sudbury/uploadedImages/news/localNews/2019/07/070719_kf_sun_sized.jpg)
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/08f2517b-759d-45c9-865f-ce8e69b215e1_2.1296b18cee26f0858026feca98a3f041.jpeg?odnWidth=undefined&odnHeight=undefined&odnBg=ffffff)
(https://i0.wp.com/cdn-prod.medicalnewstoday.com/content/images/articles/283/283659/a-basket-of-eggs.jpg)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0031/8606/5475/products/Real_Salt_web_photo-3_590x.jpg)
The truth that scares vegans to death
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Although I agree you should take extend breaks if you take fat soluble vitamins, you also wouldn't want to wait until you're deficient in something before you address it.
You'd also be surprised how many conditions can be traced back to a deficiency. Lower back problems, neurological conditions, depression, low testosterone, vision problems, heart issues, thyroid issues. In a lot of cases once the damage is done it's difficult to reverse.
It takes a long time to become deficient in vitamins and rarely happens in our society because our foods are enriched with vitamins. Even things like Fruit Loops and Frosted Flakes are sprayed with vitamins and minerals. No society on Earth throughout history had a "balanced" diet yet lived as long as we do today if they lived past childhood diseases.
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It takes a long time to become deficient in vitamins and rarely happens in our society because our foods are enriched with vitamins. Even things like Fruit Loops and Frosted Flakes are sprayed with vitamins and minerals. No society on Earth throughout history had a "balanced" diet yet lived as long as we do today if they lived past childhood diseases.
The longer people live the more likely they are to suffer from some form of deficiency. Ageing also negatively impacts the bodies ability to absorb vitamins which leads to deficiency. Deficiency also doesn't automatically mean death, but it can cause a huge drop in the quality of your life.
Circle back to my first post in the thread on the subject of Vitamins.
Depends on your age. The older you are the more you'll benefit from them.
Also access to clean water, better working and living conditions and improved hygiene are the biggest factors in humans living longer. Extra vitamins won't help you much if you're drinking sewage contaminated water, working a 100 hours a week and waking up with icicles on your nose because you can't get your house warm.
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I use to use protein powder, creatine and different vitamins from the alphabet. Now I only take a good multi and a protein shake after a lifting session. Does the extra protein and the multi do anything for me? I have no clue. I look in shape and I vainly say I look younger than my age but is that the result of supplements? Nope, probably not. It's the result of training.
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i heard now, jarrow are using subpar ingredients
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I think effectiveness of multivitamins here on the individual.
I don't take multi anymore.
I haven't had blood tests in a while but I take:
Vitamin D 2,000 to 4,000 IU D3 per day b/c I cover up every day (fierce sun).
Zinc
Milk Thistle
Dandelion Root
TMG (Trimethyclycine)
NAC
B-complex from website (https://www.vitasave.ca/)
Magnesium
A
Super C (every other day)
Turmeric w/ Pepperine (in addition to a Turmeric & black pepper powder w/ with water at a different time)
Wild Fish Oil for Omega-3s.
Gingo Biloba (because 50 is approaching)
ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid)
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Most days I take these pills:
multivitamin
flax oil
fish oil
ginger
garlic
chlorella algae, organic, broken cell wall
cranberry extract
it might be placebo, but I feel it gives me more mental energy.
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Just take a high quality supplement of what you're actually deficient in, like vitamin d3 with K2. Most multivitamins are low quality and underdosed crap.
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I think effectiveness of multivitamins here on the individual.
I don't take multi anymore.
I haven't had blood tests in a while but I take:
Vitamin D 2,000 to 4,000 IU D3 per day b/c I cover up every day (fierce sun).
Zinc
Milk Thistle
Dandelion Root
TMG (Trimethyclycine)
NAC
B-complex from website (https://www.vitasave.ca/)
Magnesium
A
Super C (every other day)
Turmeric w/ Pepperine (in addition to a Turmeric & black pepper powder w/ with water at a different time)
Wild Fish Oil for Omega-3s.
Gingo Biloba (because 50 is approaching)
ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid)
Hypochondriacs chiming in for the first time.
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I took those as a teenager. Those horse pills were tough to swallow but they definitely gave you a boost of energy. Universal Nutrition was a great company.
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I can still smell the rotten bananas coming out of that can. Shark cartilage of peace....
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I think effectiveness of multivitamins here on the individual.
I don't take multi anymore.
I haven't had blood tests in a while but I take:
Vitamin D 2,000 to 4,000 IU D3 per day b/c I cover up every day (fierce sun).
Zinc
Milk Thistle
Dandelion Root
TMG (Trimethyclycine)
NAC
B-complex from website (https://www.vitasave.ca/)
Magnesium
A
Super C (every other day)
Turmeric w/ Pepperine (in addition to a Turmeric & black pepper powder w/ with water at a different time)
Wild Fish Oil for Omega-3s.
Gingo Biloba (because 50 is approaching)
ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid)
No K2? Selenium? Iodine?
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I can still smell the rotten bananas coming out of that can. Shark cartilage of peace....
Ah yes, the shark cartilage.
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If you eat a variety of fresh produce everyday along with some protein sources (either veg, fish, or meat) then you likely need only to supplement with individual items to ensure you are getting enough of them. If you have health issues, then individual supplements can be used therapeutically to address or correct those. But again, that is not the purpose of a multivitamin.
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If you eat a variety of fresh produce everyday along with some protein sources (either veg, fish, or meat) then you likely need only to supplement with individual items to ensure you are getting enough of them. If you have health issues, then individual supplements can be used therapeutically to address or correct those. But again, that is not the purpose of a multivitamin.
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If you eat a variety of fresh produce everyday along with some protein sources (either veg, fish, or meat) then you likely need only to supplement with individual items to ensure you are getting enough of them. If you have health issues, then individual supplements can be used therapeutically to address or correct those. But again, that is not the purpose of a multivitamin.
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