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Bruce Lee simply wasnt Bruce Lee unless he was at a low bodyfat, his whole charisma and aura was different.
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Bruce Lee simply wasnt Bruce Lee unless he was at a low bodyfat, his whole charisma and aura was different.
He was never FAT though!
Everyone is allowed to be chubby when young!
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He was never FAT though!
Everyone is allowed to be chubby when young!
Of course he wasnt fat, but his looks were all over the place if those pic ages are accurate, had he been in the condition he was in at 32 at 22, he'd likely have made it much sooner.
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That's just the puppy fat coming out of his face..
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From what I have read he use to use basic whole body routines when it came to weights. He hurt his back really bad doing good mornings though. I never thought it was a safe exercise. He also ran for distance. Him and Kareem Abdul Jabbar would go for five mile runs.
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The guy was 135 pounds.
I drop turds close to that.
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Of course he wasnt fat, but his looks were all over the place if those pic ages are accurate, had he been in the condition he was in at 32 at 22, he'd likely have made it much sooner.
Some of those pix were off by several years.
Hollywood came came calling based on his martial arts demonstration in Long Beach, CA in 1964, when he was 22. The Green Hornet followed,
as did other roles for domestic projects, but he was fully dressed. Pix from that period show he'd already developed a nice physique. Not the
ripped one of '73, but a good one nonetheless. Sadly, the physique of '73 didn't last long...or did it last forever? :'(
(https://steemitimages.com/DQmUxgiJbHs7Bw98AjRkt32evxQJJTVLg8hzJZmFKD6R9Xa/BLskinnyLOL.jpg)
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The guy was 135 pounds.
I drop turds close to that.
Aren’t you 300 pounds of blubber?
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Bruce Lee simply wasnt Bruce Lee unless he was at a low bodyfat, his whole charisma and aura was different.
Army of None, must be that fatso Steven Seagal ;D
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From what I have read he use to use basic whole body routines when it came to weights. He hurt his back really bad doing good mornings though. I never thought it was a safe exercise. He also ran for distance. Him and Kareem Abdul Jabbar would go for five mile runs.
Bruce Lee was my idol growing up. From the Green Hornet to all the articles featuring him in Black Belt magazine. I tried to find out everything thing that he did in his training. Things like barbell curls, wrist rolls, push-ups of various styles.... he stated very specifically that he went on 3 mile runs with his Geat Dane, BoBo. I remember having my mom drive from our house down the road to use the odometer to measure out 1.5 miles which I used as a marker which was in front of a green house. So I would run up to that house and back to make the 3 miles and I recruited my dog, Tonka, an Alaskan Malamute bred to run, to serve as my "BoBo". I was at the age that I believed that if I could do everything Bruce Lee did as much as possible that I could be like
him.
Pic of Bruce running with BoBo. And a picture of Tonka, the white one on the left, as my companion. Note the bench at the right which I used with my Sears weight set. Also, if you look behind the fence you can see my blue punching bag, with the name "BuiltTough" blazen on the front. That was a premium bag at the time and not just those sand bags where all the sand sinks to the bottom. It costs me $60 which was not cheap in those days (early 1970s). Spent many hours pounding away at that bag over the years.
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/b7/4f/d1/b74fd1ba12dc5b088735d55ffb2f475b--bruce-lee-workouts.jpg)
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He was also using Steroids. This is well known.
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From what I have read he use to use basic whole body routines when it came to weights. He hurt his back really bad doing good mornings though. I never thought it was a safe exercise. He also ran for distance. Him and Kareem Abdul Jabbar would go for five mile runs.
That picture...
Your average female crossfitter has larger and more muscular arms than that. :-\
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He was also using Steroids. This is well known.
"Well known"? No it's not. Do you have any evidence for this claim? You just made that up. Nobody was talking about steroid use at that time nor was it mentioned after he died except by those who think it is impossible to have abs without drugs. Just go to any inner-city basketball court and see how many crack addict nigs that don't train and only eat fast food crap with physiques more ripped and developed than Bruce Lee.
5'6" , 135 lbs, training like a maniac everyday and he can't possibly have that kind of massive development and definition without gear.
Oh brother. ::)
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That picture...
Your average female crossfitter has larger and more muscular arms than that. :-\
Truth.
To claim he was jucing is just beyond ignorant. Even Woody Allen would have a more muscular physique than Bruce if he juiced.
"This is well known." I love when people speak nonsense with such absolute authority.
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A Profesional Cyclist is also using and has nothing to show. That Argument is Pointless. I am not impressed by his Muscle Mass, but my Information is that he was using. I did not say that to offend you, even if i think you are the furthest away from his physique than a Human Being can be..
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A Profesional Cyclist is also using and has nothing to show. That Argument is Pointless. I am not impressed by his Muscle Mass, but my Information is that he was using. I did not say that to offend you, even if i think you are the furthest away from his physique than a Human Being can be..
What's your "Information"? (Which you made a point to capitalize as if you have some special insight).
What makes your comment offensive, though not personally offensive, is that you are just giving your opinion base on nothing but a subjective hunch yet you state it with authority as if you have some special insight or inside information that the rest of us do not and if we don't believe you we are just ignorant and out of the main stream as "it is well known" as you claim, that Bruce Lee used steroids when that is just not true. Meaning it is not true that it was "well know" as I don't dismiss the possiblity as I simply don't know. In the sixties and seventies you couldn't just order gear off the net anonymously. You would need to have a source. It was well know that bber like Arnold and Franco would see Dr. Walczak in Sherman Oaks. I would see high level bbers in Dr. Walczak's office during the early 1980s when it was still legal and doctors would prescribed it to you. I am sure if Bruce Lee walked into his office during the sixites and early seventies he would have been outed by now as well as by any supplier making the trip to Mexico and being the local gym supplier selling out of the truck of their car which I've witnessed many times during the 80s. If Bruce was steroids it would indeed be well known and we'd have names of those that witness and supplied it. Bruce Lee didn't work out at commercial muscle gym at the time and was out of the loop as far as gear use and availability.
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The guy was 135 pounds.
I drop turds close to that.
Yeah, but he'll live longer than you.....oh, wait.
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The guy was 135 pounds.
I drop turds close to that.
You must be full of shit.
:D
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When I was a kid in the early 70's, EVERY kid had his poster on their bedroom wall. Everyone revered and worshiped Bruce, even adults. When word got out he died, no one believed it, everyone thought it was a joke.
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Bruce Lee was my idol growing up. From the Green Hornet to all the articles featuring him in Black Belt magazine. I tried to find out everything thing that he did in his training. Things like barbell curls, wrist rolls, push-ups of various styles.... he stated very specifically that he went on 3 mile runs with his Geat Dane, BoBo. I remember having my mom drive from our house down the road to use the odometer to measure out 1.5 miles which I used as a marker which was in front of a green house. So I would run up to that house and back to make the 3 miles and I recruited my dog, Tonka, an Alaskan Malamute bred to run, to serve as my "BoBo". I was at the age that I believed that if I could do everything Bruce Lee did as much as possible that I could be like
him.
Pic of Bruce running with BoBo. And a picture of Tonka, the white one on the left, as my companion. Note the bench at the right which I used with my Sears weight set. Also, if you look behind the fence you can see my blue punching bag, with the name "BuiltTough" blazen on the front. That was a premium bag at the time and not just those sand bags where all the sand sinks to the bottom. It costs me $60 which was not cheap in those days (early 1970s). Spent many hours pounding away at that bag over the years.
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/b7/4f/d1/b74fd1ba12dc5b088735d55ffb2f475b--bruce-lee-workouts.jpg)
Great story Pellius!
I am certain Bruce inspired many of us when we were young!
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Aren’t you 300 pounds of blubber?
Nope. You’re thinking of your wife.
I’m 285 of blast-beating brutality, bucko! :D
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Hard to tell which one he is in some photos as he’s posing with other Chinese fellas
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A Profesional Cyclist is also using and has nothing to show. That Argument is Pointless. I am not impressed by his Muscle Mass, but my Information is that he was using. I did not say that to offend you, even if i think you are the furthest away from his physique than a Human Being can be..
Depends on the cyclist and their discipline. Track sprinters clearly show. However cyclists are drug tested a lot so the usage is a lot harder to undertake than a casual athlete does. Steroids show up like a 1000W light bulb these days in the drug tests so the drugs of choice are hemoglobin related.
For endurance cyclists in the TdF for example there have been positive testes for testosterone patches, nandrolone, and a few others. They used them for recovery. But these have fallen out of favor for many years due to the aforementioned drug test info. The daily calorie burn for a Tour rider is in excess of 7500 calories a day (1000 cal per hour, 5 hour stages, plus daily BMR needs) and nobody builds mass at that level.
If Bruce used, (and people always toss that "inside info" shit around on here, lol) it didn't do anything for him. He had no need to recover from extreme calorie burns. And he sure didn't have any mass to speak of. So your theory is specious.
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Unless there was a Steroid that could make you punch and kick twice as fast! :D
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"Well known"? No it's not. Do you have any evidence for this claim? You just made that up. Nobody was talking about steroid use at that time nor was it mentioned after he died except by those who think it is impossible to have abs without drugs. Just go to any inner-city basketball court and see how many crack addict nigs that don't train and only eat fast food crap with physiques more ripped and developed than Bruce Lee.
5'6" , 135 lbs, training like a maniac everyday and he can't possibly have that kind of massive development and definition without gear.
Oh brother. ::)
If Bruce was juicing to get to 135 he should have gone Kung Fu on his dealer. ;D
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Bruce Lee simply wasnt Bruce Lee unless he was at a low bodyfat, his whole charisma and aura was different.
That little kid is photoshopped right?
When Bruce is age 5 his Dad looks just like him when he is around 20.
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Claimed a 360lb bench didn't he?
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Claimed a 360lb bench didn't he?
Getbiggers claim 405 upright rows
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Nope. You’re thinking of your wife.
I’m 285 of blast-beating brutality, bucko! :D
I have a husband, not a wife
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I have a husband, not a wife
Gross.
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That picture...
Your average female crossfitter has larger and more muscular arms than that. :-\
Size isn't everything. I bet Floyd Mayweather has a 14' flexed arms but he has the power to punch hard. Fans of bodybuilding have a warped image of what it means to be in shape. Looks at the physiques of the lighter boxers, wrestlers and guys in the UFC. Those are real in shape bodies. Bruce Lee was never big but he was in incredible shape.
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Size isn't everything. I bet Floyd Mayweather has a 14' flexed arms but he has the power to punch hard. Fans of bodybuilding have a warped image of what it means to be in shape. Looks at the physiques of the lighter boxers, wrestlers and guys in the UFC. Those are real in shape bodies. Bruce Lee was never big but he was in incredible shape.
“In shape” can either mean having general health or being specifically conditioned for a chosen sport/physical task.
In the latter way, an elite powerlifter or strongman is as in shape as a marathon runner or MMA competitor.
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What's your "Information"? (Which you made a point to capitalize as if you have some special insight).
What makes your comment offensive, though not personally offensive, is that you are just giving your opinion base on nothing but a subjective hunch yet you state it with authority as if you have some special insight or inside information that the rest of us do not and if we don't believe you we are just ignorant and out of the main stream as "it is well known" as you claim, that Bruce Lee used steroids when that is just not true. Meaning it is not true that it was "well know" as I don't dismiss the possiblity as I simply don't know. In the sixties and seventies you couldn't just order gear off the net anonymously. You would need to have a source. It was well know that bber like Arnold and Franco would see Dr. Walczak in Sherman Oaks. I would see high level bbers in Dr. Walczak's office during the early 1980s when it was still legal and doctors would prescribed it to you. I am sure if Bruce Lee walked into his office during the sixites and early seventies he would have been outed by now as well as by any supplier making the trip to Mexico and being the local gym supplier selling out of the truck of their car which I've witnessed many times during the 80s. If Bruce was steroids it would indeed be well known and we'd have names of those that witness and supplied it. Bruce Lee didn't work out at commercial muscle gym at the time and was out of the loop as far as gear use and availability.
The source for the steroid allegation is from Tom Bleeker, who was married to Linda Lee for a time. He claims that he went through Lee’s medical records and found evidence that Lee had been prescribed steroids. He published it in his book, Unsettled Matters, which you can find as PDF online. It’s a provocative book that covers aspects of Lee’s life that I’ve not read elsewhere.
I read that Lee did get training advice from Vince Gironda, and I found some corroboration in Vince’s column in MuscleMag Int. Someone wrote asking for the routine Vince created for Lee, and Vince responded with something like, “You’re gonna have to pay for it just like Lee did!” Vince used less polite language, though.
True or false, we’re left with the inspiration of his accomplishments, image, and example. 47 years gone and we’re still discussing him.
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I have a husband, not a wife
Rory?
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The source for the steroid allegation is from Tom Bleeker, who was married to Linda Lee for a time. He claims that he went through Lee’s medical records and found evidence that Lee had been prescribed steroids. He published it in his book, Unsettled Matters, which you can find as PDF online. It’s a provocative book that covers aspects of Lee’s life that I’ve not read elsewhere.
I read that Lee did get training advice from Vince Gironda, and I found some corroboration in Vince’s column in MuscleMag Int. Someone wrote asking for the routine Vince created for Lee, and Vince responded with something like, “You’re gonna have to pay for it just like Lee did!” Vince used less polite language, though.
True or false, we’re left with the inspiration of his accomplishments, image, and example. 47 years gone and we’re still discussing him.
Also in the late 90's, John Little gained access to Lee's weight training files. If you looked carefully at what he clipped and saved, there were a decent number of steroid articles, power rack articles, isometric articles, and articles by Anthony Ditillo (huge volume trainer) in the pile. Just one of those things I remember.
Little would later buy and import from Hong Kong, Bruce's Universal machine. A few years later a York isometric rack said to have been Lee's sold on Ebay (the provenance was good - Lee to Inosanto to Balicki), alas no shipping, and it wound up going pretty cheap.
Here's an article with some neat pics and info in it -
https://www.thebioneer.com/bruce-lee-training-routines/ .
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Also in the late 90's, John Little gained access to Lee's weight training files. If you looked carefully at what he clipped and saved, there were a decent number of steroid articles, power rack articles, isometric articles, and articles by Anthony Ditillo (huge volume trainer) in the pile. Just one of those things I remember.
Little would later buy and import from Hong Kong, Bruce's Universal machine. A few years later a York isometric rack said to have been Lee's sold on Ebay (the provenance was good - Lee to Inosanto to Balicki), alas no shipping, and it wound up going pretty cheap.
Here's an article with some neat pics and info in it -
https://www.thebioneer.com/bruce-lee-training-routines/ .
That is a neat article. BTW, Balicki and I were both students in Mr. Inosanto's class.
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He also ran for distance. Him and Kareem Abdul Jabbar would go for five mile runs.
In Thailand every 12 yo Muay Thai kid run that distance before brakfast !.
Visit Thailand & join 3-6 months jungle training camp & you'll see !.
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That is a neat article. BTW, Balicki and I were both students in Mr. Inosanto's class.
Very cool, I enjoy both their work, plus The Dog Brothers, etc....
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Bruce Lee was my idol growing up.
Idiolazed by millions , every one wanted to be like him & train Wing Chun in Hong Kong !.
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He was also using Steroids. This is well known.
Just stop BS !.
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A Profesional Cyclist is also using and has nothing to show. That Argument is Pointless. I am not impressed by his Muscle Mass, but my Information is that he was using. I did not say that to offend you, even if i think you are the furthest away from his physique than a Human Being can be..
..........yours informations ::) ::) ::)
& I'm not impress by yours "intelligence" 2, perhaps you know Linda !.
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Rory?
That would be a dream come true, Rory or Henda
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Depends on the cyclist and their discipline. Track sprinters clearly show. However cyclists are drug tested a lot so the usage is a lot harder to undertake than a casual athlete does. Steroids show up like a 1000W light bulb these days in the drug tests so the drugs of choice are hemoglobin related.
For endurance cyclists in the TdF for example there have been positive testes for testosterone patches, nandrolone, and a few others. They used them for recovery. But these have fallen out of favor for many years due to the aforementioned drug test info. The daily calorie burn for a Tour rider is in excess of 7500 calories a day (1000 cal per hour, 5 hour stages, plus daily BMR needs) and nobody builds mass at that level.
If Bruce used, (and people always toss that "inside info" shit around on here, lol) it didn't do anything for him. He had no need to recover from extreme calorie burns. And he sure didn't have any mass to speak of. So your theory is specious.
Nobody detects slightly! raised Testosteron that is impossible and will be impossible in the Future. And that
"it didn't do anything for him" is also False. He never wanted to getbig in the first place. Steroids do a lot for you, even gives you speed and strength. So it makes you a better Martial Artist. And you dont getbig if you simply restrict your calories. Also you can train alot longer so that is a huge advantage. He was also in shape all the time and doing lots of stuff. There is a Thing called overtraining that you will hit if you are serious with youre Training.
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The source for the steroid allegation is from Tom Bleeker, who was married to Linda Lee for a time. He claims that he went through Lee’s medical records and found evidence that Lee had been prescribed steroids. He published it in his book, Unsettled Matters, which you can find as PDF online. It’s a provocative book that covers aspects of Lee’s life that I’ve not read elsewhere.
I read that Lee did get training advice from Vince Gironda, and I found some corroboration in Vince’s column in MuscleMag Int. Someone wrote asking for the routine Vince created for Lee, and Vince responded with something like, “You’re gonna have to pay for it just like Lee did!” Vince used less polite language, though.
True or false, we’re left with the inspiration of his accomplishments, image, and example. 47 years gone and we’re still discussing him.
I could not find this PDF file you mentioned. Since you have seen it perhaps you can make it easy for all of us and simply post the link. I would like to know who this Tom Bleeker is that was able to get access to Bruce Lee's medical records. A person's medical records is private and one must get authorization from the owner. I'm not sure being married to Linda Lee gives you that privilege. I'm not sure even Linda Lee had access to all his personal medical records as I think it would have been mentioned by now as it is quite pertinent to the Bruce Lee scholars out there. Of all the people and organizations obsessed with Bruce Lee, his life, and his death, only this Tom Bleeker gained access to his medical records and the doctors he was saw, drugs prescribed, and treatment rendered. Personal medical records and gaining access to them is quite different from the death certificate which is public information.
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https://memberfiles.freewebs.com/79/22/75842279/documents/UNSETTLEDMATTERS.pdf
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Also in the late 90's, John Little gained access to Lee's weight training files. If you looked carefully at what he clipped and saved, there were a decent number of steroid articles, power rack articles, isometric articles, and articles by Anthony Ditillo (huge volume trainer) in the pile. Just one of those things I remember.
Little would later buy and import from Hong Kong, Bruce's Universal machine. A few years later a York isometric rack said to have been Lee's sold on Ebay (the provenance was good - Lee to Inosanto to Balicki), alas no shipping, and it wound up going pretty cheap.
Here's an article with some neat pics and info in it -
https://www.thebioneer.com/bruce-lee-training-routines/ .
Are you implying that because Bruce Lee read and kept articles on steroid studies and use that he used them? Is there anybody with even a passing interest in weight training and bodybuilding that wasn't familiar with steroid use and read various articles. I certainly read articles on steroids as a teen in Muscle and Fitness. I remember Lou Ferrigno writing about one of this workout routine (probably ghost written) mentioning about how much work and training is involved in being a Mr. Universe and bemoaned the fact that a lot of people think it is just all drugs.
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I could not find this PDF file you mentioned. Since you have seen it perhaps you can make it easy for all of us and simply post the link. I would like to know who this Tom Bleeker is that was able to get access to Bruce Lee's medical records. A person's medical records is private and one must get authorization from the owner. I'm not sure being married to Linda Lee gives you that privilege. I'm not sure even Linda Lee had access to all his personal medical records as I think it would have been mentioned by now as it is quite pertinent to the Bruce Lee scholars out there. Of all the people and organizations obsessed with Bruce Lee, his life, and his death, only this Tom Bleeker gained access to his medical records and the doctors he was saw, drugs prescribed, and treatment rendered. Personal medical records and gaining access to them is quite different from the death certificate which is public information.
I see see a link to the book above. I nearly read it straight through when I got my copy 20+ years ago - it's a page-turner.
By medical records I mean whatever an individual would have of/for himself - not necessarily the doctor's file(s). I have gobs of my own medical records going back decades: medical images; radiologists' reports; blood work; billing statements; STD results; etc.
You make some good points, but be aware that this stuff has been out there for nearly 25 years. My fellow Bruce Lee nuts and I were gobsmacked at the allegations.
I'm agnostic on the matter, so I have no dog in any fight, horse in any rodeo, or crow in any murder. :D
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Are you implying that because Bruce Lee read and kept articles on steroid studies and use that he used them? Is there anybody with even a passing interest in weight training and bodybuilding that wasn't familiar with steroid use and read various articles. I certainly read articles on steroids as a teen in Muscle and Fitness. I remember Lou Ferrigno writing about one of this workout routine (probably ghost written) mentioning about how much work and training is involved in being a Mr. Universe and bemoaned the fact that a lot of people think it is just all drugs.
Somewhat, to me it is simply an open ended question, and one that we will never know the answer to. Lee seemed to have a decent fascination with training, enough that he was buying power racks, Universal machines, even a high end Russian Rekordnaia Stanga barbell set.
He also clipped and saved more than a handful of articles about steroids, and they were perfectly legal at the time, so one cannot totally say that perhaps he didn't dabble. In my experience, the jump from curiosity to use isn't that large, especially if it isn't illegal and doesn't have a huge social stigma attached to it.
I don't care if he did or didn't.
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Somewhat, to me it is simply an open ended question, and one that we will never know the answer to. Lee seemed to have a decent fascination with training, enough that he was buying power racks, Universal machines, even a high end Russian Rekordnaia Stanga barbell set.
He also clipped and saved more than a handful of articles about steroids, and they were perfectly legal at the time, so one cannot totally say that perhaps he didn't dabble. In my experience, the jump from curiosity to use isn't that large, especially if it isn't illegal and doesn't have a huge social stigma attached to it.
I don't care if he did or didn't.
Going by my very subjective perception of Bruce Lee and the type of person he was: very driven and results oriented and, typical of over achievers that want to make history and be remembered forever (remember Arnold in P.I. saying he wanted to be remembered forever like Jesus Christ?), there is nothing, short of immediate death, that Bruce Lee would not have done to achieve greatness. If he had easy access to steroids I have no doubt he would have use them. Imagine being Bruce Lee, looking at yourself and how you appear on screen except being even just 20 pounds of muscle heavier? Still, a twinkish 155 pounds which wouldn't give him that phony bber look and compromise physical and athletic performance but make him look so much more impressive. Just by looking at his physique I don't think he was on steroids. Sure people point to Lance Armstrong and point out that he was as far from a bber as you can get. But Armstrong wasn't doing bench presses, squats, curls, drinking beef blood trying to put on muscle like Lee was. Bruce Lee was definitely interested in putting on muscle. It showed by how he trained and how he presented himself, flexing and being shirtless on screen. Bruce had very little muscle on him. Look how skinny and tiny his arms are. Everyone on this board knows how definition and conditioning can create the illusion of muscle size and development.
But you're right, we will really never know. My beef is the claim that it was "well known" that Bruce Lee was a juicer. That is just patently false.
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"Well known"? No it's not. Do you have any evidence for this claim? You just made that up. Nobody was talking about steroid use at that time nor was it mentioned after he died except by those who think it is impossible to have abs without drugs. Just go to any inner-city basketball court and see how many crack addict nigs that don't train and only eat fast food crap with physiques more ripped and developed than Bruce Lee.
5'6" , 135 lbs, training like a maniac everyday and he can't possibly have that kind of massive development and definition without gear.
Oh brother. ::)
It IS well known he was juicing. Joe Lewis is on recored somewhere as saying like "that's what you look like when you take steroids and don't eat." This is no secret and even in the early 80's in Chinese martial arts circles people would mock him for juicing. In fact, I think Matt Polly's recent book documents this.
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It IS well known he was juicing. Joe Lewis is on recored somewhere as saying like "that's what you look like when you take steroids and don't eat." This is no secret and even in the early 80's in Chinese martial arts circles people would mock him for juicing. In fact, I think Matt Polly's recent book documents this.
No, it's not. What's your evidence? Something you read that supposedly Joe Lewis said? And how does Joe Lewis, who probably did juice, know that Lee was a user? What is well known is that regular steroid users always assume everyone else who isn't a fatso is also juicing.
And exactly what "martial arts circles" we're you involved in or had inside access to?
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No, it's not. What's your evidence? Something you read that supposedly Joe Lewis said? And how does Joe Lewis, who probably did juice, know that Lee was a user? What is well known is that regular steroid users always assume everyone else who isn't a fatso is also juicing.
Yep. Just like gay people think everyone is gay
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Going by my very subjective perception of Bruce Lee and the type of person he was: very driven and results oriented and, typical of over achievers that want to make history and be remembered forever (remember Arnold in P.I. saying he wanted to be remembered forever like Jesus Christ?), there is nothing, short of immediate death, that Bruce Lee would not have done to achieve greatness. If he had easy access to steroids I have no doubt he would have use them. Imagine being Bruce Lee, looking at yourself and how you appear on screen except being even just 20 pounds of muscle heavier? Still, a twinkish 155 pounds which wouldn't give him that phony bber look and compromise physical and athletic performance but make him look so much more impressive. Just by looking at his physique I don't think he was on steroids. Sure people point to Lance Armstrong and point out that he was as far from a bber as you can get. But Armstrong wasn't doing bench presses, squats, curls, drinking beef blood trying to put on muscle like Lee was. Bruce Lee was definitely interested in putting on muscle. It showed by how he trained and how he presented himself, flexing and being shirtless on screen. Bruce had very little muscle on him. Look how skinny and tiny his arms are. Everyone on this board knows how definition and conditioning can create the illusion of muscle size and development.
But you're right, we will really never know. My beef is the claim that it was "well known" that Bruce Lee was a juicer. That is just patently false.
Ive read a lot about bruce during my teen years and Bruce claimed he went up to around 165 in weight and didn’t like it, felt sluggish and slower. Every thing from training was about functional strength to him, he made that clear.
He had good genetics for bbing if he ever did decide to take it up though
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In fact, I think Matt Polly's recent book documents this.
The Polly book doesn't have much on steroids, it just mentions Bleeker's assertion that Lee used steroids. It also makes mention of Lee's weight ballooning rapidly to #140 pounds. There is also a mention of Lee drinking tons of cattle blood during this period, and making shakes out of raw hamburger.
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Nobody detects slightly! raised Testosteron that is impossible and will be impossible in the Future. And that
"it didn't do anything for him" is also False. He never wanted to getbig in the first place. Steroids do a lot for you, even gives you speed and strength. So it makes you a better Martial Artist. And you dont getbig if you simply restrict your calories. Also you can train alot longer so that is a huge advantage. He was also in shape all the time and doing lots of stuff. There is a Thing called overtraining that you will hit if you are serious with youre Training.
WOW, this is mega news & you know "so much" about AS + MA training ;D ;D ;D
Just do DNA sport test & they'll tell you in microns if you took anything in the last 6 months.
You have access to National Sports Institute , don't you !.
OMG, overtraining exists too :o :o :o
OBW, I use Sustanon 250 for hammering girls for hours & HGH for speed ........... both easily detectable !.
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Yep. Just like gay people think everyone is gay
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The Polly book doesn't have much on steroids, it just mentions Bleeker's assertion that Lee used steroids. It also makes mention of Lee's weight ballooning rapidly to #140 pounds. There is also a mention of Lee drinking tons of cattle blood during this period, and making shakes out of raw hamburger.
You are naive, no cattles in Hong Kong, many old fighters use to drink raw liver, so .................!.
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WOW, this is mega news & you know "so much" about AS + MA training ;D ;D ;D
Just do DNA sport test & they'll tell you in microns if you took anything in the last 6 months.
You have access to National Sports Institute , don't you !.
OMG, overtraining exists too :o :o :o
OBW, I use Sustanon 250 for hammering girls for hours & HGH for speed ........... both easily detectable !.
Of course this is nothing new but some things you have to tell over and over.
"DNA sport test" I dont know what that is. What do you want to detect with youre microns?
You cant detect what you dont know. Sustanon & HGH they would not use. But you already know.
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BTW, though this proves nothing, but since some are trying to past conjecture and opinion as fact, I will put this out there. During my time training with the Gracie's and the Machado'a I had the opportunity to spend a lot of time -- years -- training and discussing Bruce Lee with people very close to Bruce in real life. I lived in Torrance, CA in the 80s and 90s so the time period and area coincide with my claim. This included Dan Inosantos and Richard Bustillio who took a private lesson with Roger Machado several times a week and I was there watching waiting for the group class that would follow and we spent many hours bull shitting and me picking their brains about Lee. Also, there was Chuck Norris who also trained at the Machado's and helped them tremendously to grow their business. In fact, it was Chuck who brought over one of the Machado brothers, Carlos, with him to Texas when he started that Texas Ranger show. Chuck became a BJJ fanatic and wanted to continue with his training and along with Carlos brought BJJ to Texas.
Never in my discussions with any of these men who actually knew and trained with Lee before he became a star and after he started to make it big ever said he used steroids even when I asked point blank. All, independently, claimed he was a fitness fanatic and never stopped training. Norris made it a point to say that he felt Bruce over did it. Always full of energy, driven, never could sit still. His leaness had nothing to do with him not eating as Lewis claimed. Guru Dan once referred to Lee as a human garbage disposal and always eating. Lee was lean because he never stopped moving.
Again, this doesn't prove anything but this is real live interactions over a period of years and not some heresay or reading second hand accounts from people you don't know that haven't spent the time in real life with Bruce both in training and socially.
There was no "it was well known" among those who really did know Bruce Lee.
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You are naive, no cattles in Hong Kong, many old fighters use to drink raw liver, so .................!.
This was in California, late 60's, early 70's. The actor James Coburn mentioned that it grossed him out, and Lee would have fun drinking it around him.
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Ive read a lot about bruce during my teen years and Bruce claimed he went up to around 165 in weight and didn’t like it, felt sluggish and slower. Every thing from training was about functional strength to him, he made that clear.
He had good genetics for bbing if he ever did decide to take it up though
I remember reading that it was 150 pounds and it was stated by Dan Inosantos, but this was further proof that he was not using steroids and had a limited ability to gain lean muscle naturally. If he juiced, getting up to 150 or 165 pounds at 5'6" while keeping his low bodfat level is easily doable. He did not have good bbing genetics. He had a very small framed, even petite, structure for a man. Most women would be very satisfied to have his height and weight.
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This was in California, late 60's, early 70's. The actor James Coburn mentioned that it grossed him out, and Lee would have fun drinking it around him.
Yes, Linda also wrote how it grossed her out when he would drink beef blood. But my impression was that it was just a phase he went through and didn't do it continuously as a regular thing. Just like those morons who experiment drinking their own piss.
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Here's Chuck Norris bringing the Machado brothers over to Texas to do a guest spot on his show rolling. Carlos is the one that Norris brought over. There's some confusion for those that aren't familiar with the brothers. In the last match where Norris is rolling with Rigan it ends with Chuck getting caught in a collar choke. Many thought that it was Rigan doing that choke submission but it was actually Jean Jacques whom I consider the most technical of the brothers and has only a thumb and no fingers on his left hand which is huge obstacle to overcome in a grappling sport. But it was Rigan that was the family champion. Rigan was a true beast and would routinely crush all comers visiting from Brasil at his school in Redondo Beach. Rolling with him was a truly painful and agonizing experience as he knew how to position his weight so that you couldn't breath or be put in such an uncomfortable position that you would would just tap not from a legit submission but because you were in just so much pain having him on top of you. During his competitive career Rigan went undefeated losing only once to his cousin Rickson Gracie. Rigan was only about 18 or 19 years old at the time whereas Rickson was 25-26 years old and in his prime.
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No, it's not. What's your evidence? Something you read that supposedly Joe Lewis said? And how does Joe Lewis, who probably did juice, know that Lee was a user? What is well known is that regular steroid users always assume everyone else who isn't a fatso is also juicing.
And exactly what "martial arts circles" we're you involved in or had inside access to?
Joe Lewis trained directly with Bruce Lee and was a big influence on his weight training ideas. He introduced to the idea of protein powders and supplementation. I don't know that Lewis was ever named as steroid taker but he could have. Read Polly's book - I'm pretty sure he states it in there.
I started training in Hung Sing Choy Lay Fut in 1978 in both Singapore and Australia. My primary teacher was Loy Chee Hong of the Singapore Hong Seng Koon, but also spent time with Chen Yong Fa of Sydney's Choy Li Fut Federation. I spent 7 months training in Hong Kong which is where I overheard a lot of talk about Lee Siu Lung from seniors in the Hung Sing community who were so enmeshed with the wing chun people it was hard to escape the gossip. I competed internationally in Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines from 1991 to 1993/1994 in full contact multi-style tournaments as well as kuoshu/sanda and I teach workshops to this day (COVID permitting).
Anything else you want to know?
Read Polly's book. He's done his research.
I don't know why you're so invested in this. Lee used steroids. He was also a pot head. Who cares?
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Of course this is nothing new but some things you have to tell over and over.
"DNA sport test" I dont know what that is. What do you want to detect with youre microns?
You cant detect what you dont know. Sustanon & HGH they would not use. But you already know.
It's 2o2o , not 1977 & time of Gene doping ;)
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Joe Lewis trained directly with Bruce Lee and was a big influence on his weight training ideas. He introduced to the idea of protein powders and supplementation. I don't know that Lewis was ever named as steroid taker but he could have. Read Polly's book - I'm pretty sure he states it in there.
I started training in Hung Sing Choy Lay Fut in 1978 in both Singapore and Australia. My primary teacher was Loy Chee Hong of the Singapore Hong Seng Koon, but also spent time with Chen Yong Fa of Sydney's Choy Li Fut Federation. I spent 7 months training in Hong Kong which is where I overheard a lot of talk about Lee Siu Lung from seniors in the Hung Sing community who were so enmeshed with the wing chun people it was hard to escape the gossip. I competed internationally in Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines from 1991 to 1993/1994 in full contact multi-style tournaments as well as kuoshu/sanda and I teach workshops to this day (COVID permitting).
Anything else you want to know?
Read Polly's book. He's done his research.
I don't know why you're so invested in this. Lee used steroids. He was also a pot head. Who cares?
Really? How much time did Joe Lewis spend training with Bruce Lee and how much time did he spend with him in his personal life? And how do you know Lewis was a "big influence" over Lee in regard to his training? When has Lee ever mentioned Lewis as an influenece on anything. Lewis and Lee were colleagues and not training partners.
And who the hell are Chee Hong, Yong Fa, La Fut, Siu Lung, Moo Goo Gai Pan? Were they close friends with Bruce Lee and trained and knew intimately what he did? And who the hell is Polly? Did he ever meet of know Bruce Lee? He's an author and makes his living writing and selling books. Dan Inosantos was Bruce Lee's closest friend and knew and trained with him long before little Chinese men who have never gotten into a real fight enmeshed in "Wing Chun gossip".
I'm not "invested" in anything. I don't like lies or people speaking with authority about things they simply have no way of knowing. Again, my dispute is not wether or not Bruce took steroids. I don't know. I don't think he did by the look of his physique and by what those closest to him said. I do believe he would have if he had easy access to them and knew more about them. Steroids were not common knowledge in the martial art community during the sixties. My dispute is the claim that it is well known, an accepted fact, that Bruce took steroids. That is simply not true. And verified by those who actually knew him and not by gossipy old men play dancing in their pajamas thinking they can really fight. Real MMA fighters, athletes that train, are in shape, developed muscles, and sweat buckets everyday busting their ass have exposed these phonies acting like high priests that demand they be bowed to as they tap away at a wooden stump and swing their hands as their students willingly fall to the ground. Reminds me during those Kung Fu guys from the movie in seventies who would test themselves against Thai kick boxers. Again, real athletes, training for real with real contact, real punches and kicks and real broken bones, bustin their ass putting themselves through a gruelling training schedule that would kill those Lee Hing Mui Wing Chun "masters" within hours. It was hilarious watching those Kung Fu fighers gettting gassed just walking out into the ring and then getting kicked around like a sack of potatoes.
Bruce Lee once remarked that you will never find a more out of shape "athlete" than the typical martial art instructor. At least in Jiu-Jitsu you have to prove yourself on the mat everyday and if you are a Black Belt you got goons from all levels trying to tap you and make a name for themselves. The typical martial arts instructor from traditional martial arts don't do shit but just bark orders and demonstrate pre-planned rehearsed moves that never work in real life.
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Bruce Lee is another myth we can put away [along with the survival of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna of Russia].
How good was Bruce Lee? Likely as good as any top featherweight in the UFC today. More likely, a bit less, but with modern-training could have probably been a 145-lb champ, maybe 155-lb if he came up in weight.
Could Bruce Lee take on Brock Lesnar, or some other such nonsense?
NO.
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Bruce Lee is another myth we can put away [along with the survival of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna of Russia].
How good was Bruce Lee? Likely as good as any top featherweight in the UFC today. More likely, a bit less, but with modern-training could have probably been a 145-lb champ, maybe 155-lb if he came up in weight.
Could Bruce Lee take on Brock Lesnar, or some other such nonsense?
NO.
Bruce Lee was a myth? Go to Seattle and visit his grave. He was actually a real person.
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Bruce Lee was a myth? Go to Seattle and visit his grave. He was actually a real person.
Too late! BLM dropped his statue.
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Lol!
Lee was awesome as Kato.
He was the only reason I watched Green Hornet.
For most people it was the first time they saw martial arts.
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Too late! BLM dropped his statue.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I love Bruce, but Im glad UFC redpilled and ended the "bruce lee could beat tyson/Ali etc" nonsense we heard for decades.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 B.L. statue is in Sydney (Kogarah) !.
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I love Bruce, but Im glad UFC redpilled and ended the "bruce lee could beat tyson/Ali etc" nonsense we heard for decades.
As much as I admire Bruce Lee, if I could transport his 1972 self to a local MMA gym here in Hawaii he would get his ass kicked over and over again.
One thing that was unique about traditional martial arts back in those days was that they never actually fought. There was never any real no holds barred fighting during training or competition. Unlike boxing, Muy Thai, wrestling... martials is run as a business and not as an athletic endeavor. If paying clients keep getting punched in the face they will leave and go train in Aikido. If you don't have grit and talent you get cut from the team. In martial arts as long as you keep paying your monthly dues you're gtg. Stick around long enough and you get your black belt. All the while not ever getting into a real fight.
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As much as I admire Bruce Lee, if I could transport his 1972 self to a local MMA gym here in Hawaii he would get his ass kicked over and over again.
One thing that was unique about traditional martial arts back in those days was that they never actually fought. There was never any real no holds barred fighting during training or competition. Unlike boxing, Muy Thai, wrestling... martials is run as a business and not as an athletic endeavor. If paying clients keep getting punched in the face they will leave and go train in Aikido. If you don't have grit and talent you get cut from the team. In martial arts as long as you keep paying your monthly dues you're gtg. Stick around long enough and you get your black belt. All the while not ever getting into a real fight.
To the question how would Bruce do in today’s MMA, Mr. Inosanto said something like, “If you were to fly cross country, would you want to fly on the Wright brothers’ Wright Flyer or on a modern jet?”
Like the Wright brothers, Bruce was a pioneer, but state-of-the-art MMA is more sophisticated than what Bruce was doing 50 years ago.
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It's like comparing Sandows strength-feats to current World Strongest Men.
Or the Armwrestlers from the 1920s to the Devon Laratts, Cyplenkovs, Levan Saginashvelis of today.
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Sorry Pellius
I thought you were asking what my martial arts background was in order to comment as I did.
I never met the guy. I never met Joe Lewis either. I have met Dan a few times and there's nobody nicer or more giving in the martial arts world that I've ever seen. If he says Lee was a big eater, I'm not going to dispute that.
I have stuff between germany and Australia so laying my hands on the exact quote from Lewis isn't possible, but i'm certain I read it somewhere and I heard if often, especially while I was in Hong Kong. It was never a negative. He was worshipped like a God over there and his every movement had been picked clean time and again. That was what I was told and as young guy, that was what I believed. Reading Lewis' statement after that just confirmed it in my mind, and then Polly's book mentioned it again.
And yes, traditional martial arts were proven woefully inadequate when NHB started, but I'd entered the sanda world for that very reason.
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As much as I admire Bruce Lee, if I could transport his 1972 self to a local MMA gym here in Hawaii he would get his ass kicked over and over again.
One thing that was unique about traditional martial arts back in those days was that they never actually fought. There was never any real no holds barred fighting during training or competition. Unlike boxing, Muy Thai, wrestling... martials is run as a business and not as an athletic endeavor. If paying clients keep getting punched in the face they will leave and go train in Aikido. If you don't have grit and talent you get cut from the team. In martial arts as long as you keep paying your monthly dues you're gtg. Stick around long enough and you get your black belt. All the while not ever getting into a real fight.
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As much as I admire Bruce Lee, if I could transport his 1972 self to a local MMA gym here in Hawaii he would get his ass kicked over and over again.
One thing that was unique about traditional martial arts back in those days was that they never actually fought. There was never any real no holds barred fighting during training or competition. Unlike boxing, Muy Thai, wrestling... martials is run as a business and not as an athletic endeavor. If paying clients keep getting punched in the face they will leave and go train in Aikido. If you don't have grit and talent you get cut from the team. In martial arts as long as you keep paying your monthly dues you're gtg. Stick around long enough and you get your black belt. All the while not ever getting into a real fight.
There still are no real fight competitions. The really good techniques are not allowed even in the UFC. Eye gouging, fish hooking, groin strikes, throat strikes, dim mak strikes, small joint manipulation, etc, are all illegal because people would get seriously injured. As fun as it is to watch mixed martial arts it is still just a sport. Prison yard fights are probably the most realistic "no holds barred" fights in existence. BJJ doesn't do a person much good there.
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As much as I admire Bruce Lee, if I could transport his 1972 self to a local MMA gym here in Hawaii he would get his ass kicked over and over again.
One thing that was unique about traditional martial arts back in those days was that they never actually fought. There was never any real no holds barred fighting during training or competition. Unlike boxing, Muy Thai, wrestling... martials is run as a business and not as an athletic endeavor. If paying clients keep getting punched in the face they will leave and go train in Aikido. If you don't have grit and talent you get cut from the team. In martial arts as long as you keep paying your monthly dues you're gtg. Stick around long enough and you get your black belt. All the while not ever getting into a real fight.
Truth
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I think you meant to highlight my post as truth. ;D
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Sorry Pellius
I thought you were asking what my martial arts background was in order to comment as I did.
I never met the guy. I never met Joe Lewis either. I have met Dan a few times and there's nobody nicer or more giving in the martial arts world that I've ever seen. If he says Lee was a big eater, I'm not going to dispute that.
I have stuff between germany and Australia so laying my hands on the exact quote from Lewis isn't possible, but i'm certain I read it somewhere and I heard if often, especially while I was in Hong Kong. It was never a negative. He was worshipped like a God over there and his every movement had been picked clean time and again. That was what I was told and as young guy, that was what I believed. Reading Lewis' statement after that just confirmed it in my mind, and then Polly's book mentioned it again.
And yes, traditional martial arts were proven woefully inadequate when NHB started, but I'd entered the sanda world for that very reason.
Fair enough. But again my point was not whether or not Bruce Lee used steroids but the claim that it was a well know fact that he did.
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There still are no real fight competitions. The really good techniques are not allowed even in the UFC. Eye gouging, fish hooking, groin strikes, throat strikes, dim mak strikes, small joint manipulation, etc, are all illegal because people would get seriously injured. As fun as it is to watch mixed martial arts it is still just a sport. Prison yard fights are probably the most realistic "no holds barred" fights in existence. BJJ doesn't do a person much good there.
In Vale Tudo in Brasil, just like in the original UFC, there was hair pulling, groin strikes and eye gouges (though that was looked down upon).
But I hear this all the time usually meant in an off handed way to diminish the real life street fighting ability of a UFC fighter. Not being able to use these ban techniques does not diminish their "street fighting" ability one iota. Just because they aren't allowed to use them in competition doesn't mean they can't and won't in real life. A UFC fighter, their MMA training, is the most complete in regard to unarmed combat and no Kimbo bred back yard brawler or any black-belt in TMA will stand a chance (other than pure luck) against a professional MMA fighter.
The only thing that really detracts from street fighting reality has nothing to do with the techniques allowed or not allowed but rather the time limits and weight classes. And LOL @ Dim Mak strikes. I sent for that course from "Count Dante" when I was about nine years old.
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In Vale Tudo in Brasil, just like in the original UFC, there was hair pulling, groin strikes and eye gouges (though that was looked down upon).
But I hear this all the time usually meant in an off handed way to diminish the real life street fighting ability of a UFC fighter. Not being able to use these ban techniques does not diminish their "street fighting" ability one iota. Just because they aren't allowed to use them in competition doesn't mean they can't and won't in real life. A UFC fighter, their MMA training, is the most complete in regard to unarmed combat and no Kimbo bred back yard brawler or any black-belt in TMA will stand a chance (other than pure luck) against a professional MMA fighter.
The only thing that really detracts from street fighting reality has nothing to do with the techniques allowed or not allowed but rather the time limits and weight classes. And LOL @ Dim Mak strikes. I sent for that course from "Count Dante" when I was about nine years old.
A fighter fights like they train. When you are always pulling your punches as far as techniques you aren't going to undo that in the heat of battle.
Count Dante was a joke (although a real fighter who was involved in a real fight to the death with another dojo) but Dim Mak is real. It's mostly Chinese fighters in the internal arts that still practice it. It is illegal to use those strikes in MMA so it works. I've been knocked out by one before.
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A fighter fights like they train. When you are always pulling your punches as far as techniques you aren't going to undo that in the heat of battle.
Count Dante was a joke (although a real fighter who was involved in a real fight to the death with another dojo) but Dim Mak is real. It's mostly Chinese fighters in the internal arts that still practice it. It is illegal to use those strikes in MMA so it works. I've been knocked out by one before.
if it was real then people would be killing each other with a touch by accident all the time
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Well, since no one here actually knew Bruce Lee intimately in such a way that would allow for his deepest secrets to be known, none of us will ever truly know whether he used steroids or not.
There's only two people that would know whether Bruce used steroids. One is Bruce, but he isn't answering calls right now. The other would be his dealer.
What he certainly did was entertain us with his movies. He made his genre stand out and gathered quite the following. Unlike some, I think he would have gotten killed if he ever truly fought against professional fighters (Ali, Foreman etc). Since professional MMA wasn't exactly a "thing" during his time, it's also purely postulation as to whether he would have done well in MMA as a true professional fighter.
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There still are no real fight competitions. The really good techniques are not allowed even in the UFC. Eye gouging, fish hooking, groin strikes, throat strikes, dim mak strikes, small joint manipulation, etc, are all illegal because people would get seriously injured. As fun as it is to watch mixed martial arts it is still just a sport. Prison yard fights are probably the most realistic "no holds barred" fights in existence. BJJ doesn't do a person much good there.
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There still are no real fight competitions. The really good techniques are not allowed even in the UFC. Eye gouging, fish hooking, groin strikes, throat strikes, dim mak strikes, small joint manipulation, etc, are all illegal because people would get seriously injured. As fun as it is to watch mixed martial arts it is still just a sport. Prison yard fights are probably the most realistic "no holds barred" fights in existence. BJJ doesn't do a person much good there.
Thank you. For years, I've been a strong advocate for filming and airing those prison yard fights. We pay to keep those upstanding citizens housed in jails, fed, educated, sexually satisfied (via their room mates). Also, by keeping those slavesprisoners well fed (thereby strong), they in turn are used for cheap labor to build pieces of major infrastructure within cities. There are major companies that bid for those contracts in order to make a shitload of money.
Why can't we the taxpayers get some level of entertainment? Why can't we get some return on our investment via entertainment?
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if it was real then people would be killing each other with a touch by accident all the time
It takes more than a touch to kill, or even knock someone out but people get knocked out all the time by these strikes. A shot to the temple is an example.
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Bruce Lee was lightning fast so it's very possible he would connect with one of his eye jabs.
If he did, even a much larger opponent like Ali would be incapacitated to the extent that Lee could finish him off.
Obviously, he would be at a great disadvantage trading traditional boxing strikes with a much larger opponent.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e4/b1/3f/e4b13ffc6db8532db578924eb70ce488--jab-bruce-lee.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c0/2b/a0/c02ba0a41cb3b238b22c81a1b42d2628--jab-bruce-lee.jpg)
(https://combativearts.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/biu-jee-1.jpg)
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Thank you. For years, I've been a strong advocate for filming and airing those prison yard fights. We pay to keep those upstanding citizens housed in jails, fed, educated, sexually satisfied (via their room mates). Also, by keeping those slavesprisoners well fed (thereby strong), they in turn are used for cheap labor to build pieces of major infrastructure within cities. There are major companies that bid for those contracts in order to make a shitload of money.
Why can't we the taxpayers get some level of entertainment? Why can't we get some return on our investment via entertainment?
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Go to Youtube and look under "prison yard fights" or "real street fights" and they have several unless they took them down. They are brutal fights caught on surveillance cameras.
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Go to Youtube and look under "prison yard fights" or "real street fights" and they have several unless they took them down. They are brutal fights caught on surveillance cameras.
But I want a better production. You follow? I want the warden to organize these things.
Two inmates have a legitimate problem? Instead of letting one kill the other in the showers or laundry room, let's instead allow these men to settle their differences in the cage.
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But I want a better production. You follow? I want the warden to organize these things.
Two inmates have a legitimate problem? Instead of letting one kill the other in the showers or laundry room, let's instead allow these men to settle their differences in the cage.
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Watch the Van Damme movie: Death Warrant ;)
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But I want a better production. You follow? I want the warden to organize these things.
Two inmates have a legitimate problem? Instead of letting one kill the other in the showers or laundry room, let's instead allow these men to settle their differences in the cage.
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In addition, why not have "prisoners vs. guards" sporting competitions?
Some suggestions for such:
Football
basketball
baseball
foosball
golf
tennis
equestrian
Here are two death row inmates who participated in the most recent San Quentin/Attica equestrian competition...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/2008_Olympic_equestrian_jumping_gold_medalists.jpg/1200px-2008_Olympic_equestrian_jumping_gold_medalists.jpg)
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They should invent a new law: (for the US)
If someone having a problem with someone (let's say a redneck is assaulting a beanster or a canadian etc), he/she will be transported to a special room and sentenced to fight against Cswol.
Door is locked shut until only one stands.
If Cswol isn't available for that encounter, he can be replaced with Darren Avey, Marty Falcone, Vissy, Chad Mower, PrimeHustle, KetoKid, Rk, ialin, Straw Fag, Roastbeef Pecs or ElPolloSalmonella.
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A fighter fights like they train. When you are always pulling your punches as far as techniques you aren't going to undo that in the heat of battle.
Count Dante was a joke (although a real fighter who was involved in a real fight to the death with another dojo) but Dim Mak is real. It's mostly Chinese fighters in the internal arts that still practice it. It is illegal to use those strikes in MMA so it works. I've been knocked out by one before.
Are you imply MMA fighters "pull" their punches? Oh, and I forgot that Dim Mak is indeed real. I didn't think so until after I saw "Kill Bill".
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It takes more than a touch to kill, or even knock someone out but people get knocked out all the time by these strikes. A shot to the temple is an example.
Yup, knocked out by Dim Mak -- "All the time"
Since it is so frequent how many times have you personally witnessed this?
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In addition, why not have "prisoners vs. guards" sporting competitions?
Some suggestions for such:
Football
basketball
baseball
foosball
golf
tennis
equestrian
Here are two death row inmates who participated in the most recent San Quentin/Attica equestrian competition...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/2008_Olympic_equestrian_jumping_gold_medalists.jpg/1200px-2008_Olympic_equestrian_jumping_gold_medalists.jpg)
Why not Films of them bumming each other in the showers? 😂
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Are you imply MMA fighters "pull" their punches? Oh, and I forgot that Dim Mak is indeed real. I didn't think so until after I saw "Kill Bill".
I clearly stated pulling their punches on techniques like eye gouging. I'm surprised someone like you who has trained in martial arts for years has never learned pressure points of the body. Check out some Erle Montague videos.
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Check out Bruce lee @ 1:42
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This is real fighting
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I clearly stated pulling their punches on techniques like eye gouging. I'm surprised someone like you who has trained in martial arts for years has never learned pressure points of the body. Check out some Erle Montague videos.
Wrong. Fighters pull punches in training all the time. Pretty much everytime. Just because you don't use a certain technique in training doesn't mean you won't use them in a fight. Have you done any real MMA training? You think guys are throwing elbows in sparring? You don't think an MMA fighter will "remember" it's OK to kick a guy in the balls in a real fight or head butt him and crush the bridge of his nose. You seem to be implying that MMA training puts one, in a certain way, at a disadvantage because they don't use what is considered illegal techniques in their training. Well, when have you seen a street brawler using eye jabs, and head butts?
I have never, ever eye jab an opponent in training but it is always my first go to move. It's better than a jab because you get more distance, don't commit, can gauge how your adversary reacts, and you can get lucky and actually poke his eyes. Whenever I've been in a fight and got the mounted position I never think arm bar or chokes. I think about grabbing the back of his head with both hands getting between his outstretched arms as he tries to push me off him and head butt him over and over again until I feel his face turn to mush. Theres a reason why your skull is the thickest strongest bone in your body and why it makes sense to use it as a weapon. Again, never used or even considered during training. You really think a person is that unadaptable even during stress? Here's a fact which you don't seem to realize, every serious fighter that goes into MMA, not those that just want the training and get in shape and learn self-defense, but those that actually fight and love to fight, all started out as a street fighter. Getting in to scraps all throuhout the years growing up. It takes a certain beast to want to beat the shit out of other people for a living and take regular beatings themselves. In an MMA gym, just like in Jiu-Jitsu, you get the guys that do it for the training and then you get the guys, the athletes and hard core members, that do it to compete and make it their life.
Pressure points? Oh yeah, growing in Hawaii it was a big thing with these Kung Fu masters and these WW2 Japanese tyrants that loved to show how soft, weak, and undiscipline Americans were and would whack a 9 year old boy in the back of the leg
with a bamboo stick because he couldn't hold the "horse stance" position for 8 hours.
They love to show off those pressure point magic techniques. Something never, ever used effectively in a real fight by them, by you, or by anybody. Since the advent of MMA where all the TMA Karate chop, board breaking, Kata, Pressure Point, InternalEnergy/Force was exposed by the Gracies as bullshit all that is left to the deluded minority still dancing and flailing their arms and legs in the air doing cartwheels and thinking they can fight. No real fighters, meaning those that actually fight, even thinks about pressure points. They think about kicks to the legs and head, punches to your face, and choking you unconscious.
Pressure points? I remember my girl friend not to long ago pinched me real hard on the back of my arm. Got it just right with her long ass nails. That freaking hurt and I jumped. You think I would have even felt that in a real fight? LOL. Guys bump their shin on the open dish washer door and cry like a baby. But they barely feel and continue to fight with broken jaws, fists, crushed eye sockets. Pressure points hurt when you stand there letting some phony poke away at you but when the adrenaline is going -- you're getting punched in the face.
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Wrong. Fighters pull punches in training all the time. Pretty much everytime. Just because you don't use a certain technique in training doesn't mean you won't use them in a fight. Have you done any real MMA training? You think guys are throwing elbows in sparring? You don't think an MMA fighter will "remember" it's OK to kick a guy in the balls in a real fight or head butt him and crush the bridge of his nose. You seem to be implying that MMA training puts one, in a certain way, at a disadvantage because they don't use what is considered illegal techniques in their training. Well, when have you seen a street brawler using eye jabs, and head butts?
I have never, ever eye jab an opponent in training but it is always my first go to move. It's better than a jab because you get more distance, don't commit, can gauge how your adversary reacts, and you can get lucky and actually poke his eyes. Whenever I've been in a fight and got the mounted position I never think arm bar or chokes. I think about grabbing the back of his head with both hands getting between his outstretched arms as he tries to push me off him and head butt him over and over again until I feel his face turn to mush. Theres a reason why your skull is the thickest strongest bone in your body and why it makes sense to use it as a weapon. Again, never used or even considered during training. You really think a person is that unadaptable even during stress? Here's a fact which you don't seem to realize, every serious fighter that goes into MMA, not those that just want the training and get in shape and learn self-defense, but those that actually fight and love to fight, all started out as a street fighter. Getting in to scraps all throuhout the years growing up. It takes a certain beast to want to beat the shit out of other people for a living and take regular beatings themselves. In an MMA gym, just like in Jiu-Jitsu, you get the guys that do it for the training and then you get the guys, the athletes and hard core members, that do it to compete and make it their life.
Pressure points? Oh yeah, growing in Hawaii it was a big thing with these Kung Fu masters and these WW2 Japanese tyrants that loved to show how soft, weak, and undiscipline Americans were and would whack a 9 year old boy in the back of the leg
with a bamboo stick because he couldn't hold the "horse stance" position for 8 hours.
They love to show off those pressure point magic techniques. Something never, ever used effectively in a real fight by them, by you, or by anybody. Since the advent of MMA where all the TMA Karate chop, board breaking, Kata, Pressure Point, InternalEnergy/Force was exposed by the Gracies as bullshit all that is left to the deluded minority still dancing and flailing their arms and legs in the air doing cartwheels and thinking they can fight. No real fighters, meaning those that actually fight, even thinks about pressure points. They think about kicks to the legs and head, punches to your face, and choking you unconscious.
Pressure points? I remember my girl friend not to long ago pinched me real hard on the back of my arm. Got it just right with her long ass nails. That freaking hurt and I jumped. You think I would have even felt that in a real fight? LOL. Guys bump their shin on the open dish washer door and cry like a baby. But they barely feel and continue to fight with broken jaws, fists, crushed eye sockets. Pressure points hurt when you stand there letting some phony poke away at you but when the adrenaline is going -- you're getting punched in the face.
:D i like your posts. you make me howl.
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Wrong. Fighters pull punches in training all the time. Pretty much everytime. Just because you don't use a certain technique in training doesn't mean you won't use them in a fight. Have you done any real MMA training? You think guys are throwing elbows in sparring? You don't think an MMA fighter will "remember" it's OK to kick a guy in the balls in a real fight or head butt him and crush the bridge of his nose. You seem to be implying that MMA training puts one, in a certain way, at a disadvantage because they don't use what is considered illegal techniques in their training. Well, when have you seen a street brawler using eye jabs, and head butts?
I have never, ever eye jab an opponent in training but it is always my first go to move. It's better than a jab because you get more distance, don't commit, can gauge how your adversary reacts, and you can get lucky and actually poke his eyes. Whenever I've been in a fight and got the mounted position I never think arm bar or chokes. I think about grabbing the back of his head with both hands getting between his outstretched arms as he tries to push me off him and head butt him over and over again until I feel his face turn to mush. Theres a reason why your skull is the thickest strongest bone in your body and why it makes sense to use it as a weapon. Again, never used or even considered during training. You really think a person is that unadaptable even during stress? Here's a fact which you don't seem to realize, every serious fighter that goes into MMA, not those that just want the training and get in shape and learn self-defense, but those that actually fight and love to fight, all started out as a street fighter. Getting in to scraps all throuhout the years growing up. It takes a certain beast to want to beat the shit out of other people for a living and take regular beatings themselves. In an MMA gym, just like in Jiu-Jitsu, you get the guys that do it for the training and then you get the guys, the athletes and hard core members, that do it to compete and make it their life.
Pressure points? Oh yeah, growing in Hawaii it was a big thing with these Kung Fu masters and these WW2 Japanese tyrants that loved to show how soft, weak, and undiscipline Americans were and would whack a 9 year old boy in the back of the leg
with a bamboo stick because he couldn't hold the "horse stance" position for 8 hours.
They love to show off those pressure point magic techniques. Something never, ever used effectively in a real fight by them, by you, or by anybody. Since the advent of MMA where all the TMA Karate chop, board breaking, Kata, Pressure Point, InternalEnergy/Force was exposed by the Gracies as bullshit all that is left to the deluded minority still dancing and flailing their arms and legs in the air doing cartwheels and thinking they can fight. No real fighters, meaning those that actually fight, even thinks about pressure points. They think about kicks to the legs and head, punches to your face, and choking you unconscious.
Pressure points? I remember my girl friend not to long ago pinched me real hard on the back of my arm. Got it just right with her long ass nails. That freaking hurt and I jumped. You think I would have even felt that in a real fight? LOL. Guys bump their shin on the open dish washer door and cry like a baby. But they barely feel and continue to fight with broken jaws, fists, crushed eye sockets. Pressure points hurt when you stand there letting some phony poke away at you but when the adrenaline is going -- you're getting punched in the face.
You do realize law enforcement train pressure points, right? The Gracies are overrated anyway. The early UFC fights were handpicked bums who had no grappling experience or were on the other side of the bracket against the tougher competition (Shamrock). Not a single member of the Gracie family including the Machados is anything in MMA competition now. Division 1 wrestlers are better grapplers.
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You do realize law enforcement train pressure points, right? The Gracies are overrated anyway. The early UFC fights were handpicked bums who had no grappling experience or were on the other side of the bracket against the tougher competition (Shamrock). Not a single member of the Gracie family including the Machados is anything in MMA competition now. Division 1 wrestlers are better grapplers.
BJJ is over rated full stop. sick of hearing these guys talk shit. they can beat everyone. ::)
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BJJ is over rated full stop. sick of hearing these guys talk shit. they can beat everyone. ::)
And it's a shit art for street fighting as well.
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And it's a shit art for street fighting as well.
I am sure it´s beem discussed over & over again but against a couple of guys it´s useless. maybe against a single dork you´ll pull it off but most fights are a free for all & others normally get involved & put the boot in. In a Dojo it´s good but just fantasy land on the mean streets.
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This is what i carry. can use it closed or opened up. Forget all the BS against knives . you need a tool i have the compact baton which you can carry in daily life. This company sells good quality batons. Hardened & will smash bones. If you learn a weapon system such as Kali,escrima..etc all much the same then you can use this Baton. Even a clown can use it but point is you have a chance against a blade.
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Goog idea but illegal in my state. ^
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This is what i carry. can use it closed or opened up. Forget all the BS against knives . you need a tool i have the compact baton which you can carry in daily life. This company sells good quality batons. Hardened & will smash bones. If you learn a weapon system such as Kali,escrima..etc all much the same then you can use this Baton. Even a clown can use it but point is you have a chance against a blade.
Why not carry a blade on you?
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Why not carry a blade on you?
In my case, I tend to fall a lot. That would be bad for me. ;D Also, I do not know how to defend myself with any real weapons so I will pass. I know your question was not directed at me but the truth of my falling was too good to not respond, LOL! ;D
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In my case, I tend to fall a lot. That would be bad for me. ;D Also, I do not know how to defend myself with any real weapons so I will pass. I know your question was not directed at me but the truth of my falling was too good to not respond, LOL! ;D
Yeah, but his screen name is escrima which is the best knife fighting art in the world.
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Yeah, but his screen name is escrima which is the best knife fighting art in the world.
Oh...I didn't know that I just thought it was something randomly typed by him when he joined. Thanks!
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You do realize law enforcement train pressure points, right? The Gracies are overrated anyway. The early UFC fights were handpicked bums who had no grappling experience or were on the other side of the bracket against the tougher competition (Shamrock). Not a single member of the Gracie family including the Machados is anything in MMA competition now. Division 1 wrestlers are better grapplers.
When I argue/debate I always try to back my claims with evidence. Now, I know you have a very high opinion of yourself as you have stated before but in this discussion you have not provided one iota of credible evidence. Pay attention, as I will show you how it's done.
When have you ever seen a police officer control a violent prep using "pressure points"? Have you ever subdue a violent offender using "pressure points"? I served off and on for years as an Uke for a police officer teaching fellow officers how to subdue preps during a violent situation. Never has there ever been any instruction or use on "pressure points". What is your experience and involvement regarding police self-defense training?
"The Gracie's are overrated?" In what way? The fact is that nobody is going to be even remotely successful without knowledge of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu or it's various hybrids but all with the same roots.
What was your personal experience regarding the first UFC tournament and how do you know how the opponents were picked and their level of expertise? Back in 1991 one morning, I walked into the original Gracie Academy on Carson St. in Torrance and saw Rorion watching videos of Vale Tudo fights and taking notes. I asked him what he was doing. He said that he wanted to take what we were doing now, offering $10,000 to anybody -- ANYBODY -- that wanted to come in to the academy and fight a Gracie. If they lost they go home hopefully learning something. If they win they get 10 grand. Pretty win-win if you have no ego. Rorion told me he wanted to start a new sport where various martial artist actually fight with minimal rules to detemine what is the best fighitng style. No hand pick nothing. Just show up and show what you got. We got challenges constantly and the Gracies never lost.
If it was up to Rorion to "hand pick" Royce's opponents then he would not have had Shamrock enter the competition. Shamrock was a real athlete and a real figher and quite familiar with the ground game. All the other traditional martial arts (TMA) ignored ground fighting so Rorion knew that no matter who it was they would lose once on the ground, and none of the striking arts had a clue how to defend against take downs. Shamrock was different and add to that a far superior athlete when compared to Royce. Still, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was just that effective and unstoppable at that particular time.
I was there when the UFC was first being created, I was at the first UFC, I was pretty familiar with how opponents were chosen and know that Rorion didn't have a say or get to pick and choose Royce's opponents. It was no secret that Rorion started the UFC to promote Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and there was no way he would intentionally risk having the weak, scrawny, poorly conditioned Royce, and the least skilled of all the Gracies, go against someone like Shamrock. How about you? What was your involvement with the original UFC that makes you so confident to make the claims that you do?
You are quite right that there are no Gracies (the Machados never competed in MMA) though competing in MMA that have distinguish themselves. What's your point? This in no way diminished the effectiveness and necessity of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. The Gracies no longer have a monopoly on the art and the Gracies, as athletes, are not particularly gifted or talented. Now that the pool of competition has increased exponentially more and more gifted and talented athletes have tossed their hat into the ring and the Gracie family has faded as dominate force.
D1 wrestlers are not better grapplers than top level BJJ competitors from a martial art perspective. A top level BJJ competitor against a D1 (which by definition is an elite athlete) will, with all else being equal, beat a D1 wrestler every time. This should come as no surprise if you are educated in the two disciplines. There are no submissions in competitive wrestling. Wrestling is more about control than submission. A BJJ competitor can be controlled all day without breaking a sweat and do it forever. A wrestler isn't going to last long being choked or arm barred. Techniques that are completely foreign to a wrestler. I know because even as a one year blue belt I could easily tap a wrestler. They would always take me down but it didn't matter. There is not much else they could do after that. And wrestlers love to turn on their knees which is the worse thing you could do with a BJJ fighter. All my wins, and they were all wins, easy wins, were by chokes when they would turn to their knees and I would hop on the their back and apply a RNC.
Wrestlers now dominate MMA for one very important reason. They are inherently better athletes and their fighting style is more conducive to MMA. Tournament Jiu-Jitsu can be very passive and the vast majority prefer to fight from the guard, to fight while being on their back. There is a lot of down time during a match if you want and far more passive as the BJJ players, which is a better description than fighters, try to pass the guard or the guard player trying for various sweeps and submissions.
A wrestler is far more aggressive and consequently in far better physical condition because of this style. They always strive for the top position and use their body weight and position to control their opponent rather than the gi used in BJJ. There is no need to pass the guard in a fight and many are quite content to sit there dropping bombs on their helpless BJJ black belt.
Also, and this is important and a point I've made before. A D1 wrestling organization is run as meritocracy where an athlete has to earn their spot and in the D1 division most, though talented, motivated, and discipline athletes don't make it. Jiu-Jitsu is run as a business and the only way you can get "cut from the team" is if you don't pay your monthly dues. Therefore a D1 wrestler, or any class of competitive wrestler for that matter, is on a whole different athletic level than BJJ competitors. All else being equal, if you teach a wrestler Jiu-Jitus and a BJJ black belt wrestling, the odds vastly favor the wrestler.
My claims and opinions backed by evidence.
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BJJ is over rated full stop. sick of hearing these guys talk shit. they can beat everyone. ::)
What was great and unique about the Gracies was that they put their money where their mouth was.. You can argue and debate all you want but in the end it's who wins the fight. When they had their open challenge they fought and won against everyone who came through that door to prove themselves. Something that you would never ever do. You, as with most, just talk but would never actually step and prove yourself against a Gracie. They still, and do, accept challenges.
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And it's a shit art for street fighting as well.
Spoken by one who has never been in a real street fight.
Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was specifically developed for street fighting which they did for decades.
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Spoken by one who has never been in a real street fight.
Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was specifically developed for street fighting beating hamburglars senseless which they did for decades.
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I am sure it´s beem discussed over & over again but against a couple of guys it´s useless. maybe against a single dork you´ll pull it off but most fights are a free for all & others normally get involved & put the boot in. In a Dojo it´s good but just fantasy land on the mean streets.
No martial art is inherently effective against multiple opponents. What makes the Gracie's unique is that they freely admit the huge disadvantage fighting multiple opponents. Here Rener Gracie, Rorion's second son, gives the best strategy when confronted with multiple opponents
https://www.bjjee.com/videos/rener-gracie-on-the-best-strategy-against-multiple-attackers/
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Spoken by one who has never been in a real street fight.
Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was specifically developed for street fighting which they did for decades.
you think everyone has never had a fight and you're the getbig expert on fighting and everything Else.
I suggest you look though your old posts and see what a clown you are!
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You do realize law enforcement train pressure points, right? The Gracies are overrated anyway. The early UFC fights were handpicked bums who had no grappling experience or were on the other side of the bracket against the tougher competition (Shamrock). Not a single member of the Gracie family including the Machados is anything in MMA rcompetition now. Division 1 wrestlers are better grapplers.
agree 100%
Against other grapplers they are not so good as they make out. Their father was beaten too. Just the brainwashed Clowns who think only Gracie this Gracie that like nothing Else matters
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I have to be honest and say i never saw this fight but if there is any truth in this well i Rest my case. Not saying BJJ is not good but Just not what it's always made out to be.
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No martial art is inherently effective against multiple opponents. What makes the Gracie's unique is that they freely admit the huge disadvantage fighting multiple opponents. Here Rener Gracie, Rorion's second son, gives the best strategy when confronted with multiple opponents
https://www.bjjee.com/videos/rener-gracie-on-the-best-strategy-against-multiple-attackers/
Principle 1: Diffuse the “Combative Energy” of the interaction.
😂.. How if multiple attackers are kicking the shit out of you? Punch es, Kicks coming from all angles. You talk about fighting and you believe all this trash? 😂
Best defence is a Tool, a baton or anything and even then you might not get away.
Maybe Gracie means absorb it with your head.. 🤭
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you think everyone has never had a fight and you're the getbig expert on fighting and everything Else.
I suggest you look though your old posts and see what a clown you are!
Clown? Really? Ever since you've polluted this board with your entrance you've established yourself quickly as the village idiot that nobody likes.
And I'm no expert. It's easily to tell when someone starts talking about pressure points and Dim Mak that they have very little experience, if any, with real fights.
And what's your point about posting the vid? I've posted it many times. I've made mention of it just a few days ago.
The fact remains that you can't refute any of my arguments with logic and facts. That's because you have none.
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Clown? Really? Ever since you've polluted this board with your entrance you've established yourself quickly as the village idiot that nobody likes.
And I'm no expert. It's easily to tell when someone starts talking about pressure points and Dim Mak that they have very little experience, if any, with real fights.
And what's your point about posting the vid? I've posted it many times. I've made mention of it just a few days ago.
The fact remains that you can't refute any of my arguments with logic and facts. That's because you have none.
You are infact describing yourself here. You argue with everyone on this thread. You know everything better.
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Clown? Really? Ever since you've polluted this board with your entrance you've established yourself quickly as the village idiot that nobody likes.
And I'm no expert. It's easily to tell when someone starts talking about pressure points and Dim Mak that they have very little experience, if any, with real fights.
And what's your point about posting the vid? I've posted it many times. I've made mention of it just a few days ago.
The fact remains that you can't refute any of my arguments with logic and facts. That's because you have none.
Um Pellius, i've actually won a real fight (street fight / assault in the middle of the night in the streets after walking from a nightclub) with Dim Mak back in the late 90s
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agree 100%
Against other grapplers they are not so good as they make out. Their father was beaten too. Just the brainwashed Clowns who think only Gracie this Gracie that like nothing Else matters
Gracies never said they were the best grapplers, they said their Jiu-Jitsu was the best style for submission grappling. And there is a reason in that fight you posted that after the match Yoshida was commonly referred to as "YoCheata". He was defeated by Royce in a rematch.
Again, the Gracies were the only one in their time that were always willing and able to prove their effectiveness. They realize you can debate until the cows come home but in the end they will just challenge you to a fight and prove it in real life. That's how I became a believer. I insisted I could keep someone from taking me down with punches and kicks and so they eventually said prove it. Pick one. I chose Royler since he was the smallest. About 5'5" 135 pounds. I was so proud that I easily had him on his back thinking how I was embarrassing all of them. That's until Royler popped my elbow. He couldn't speak English at the time but Royce, who did speak English, explained to me that I didn't tap. I told him I had no idea what he was doing until I felt my elbow popped. During the time period, 1991, it was inconceivable that someone could defend himself, let alone take someone out, while fighting off their back.
This is something you would never ever do. Put your money where your mouth is. I did and the Gracies did. I'm wasn't afraid of getting beaten up. I was more concerned with the truth. As much as I preferred the old Bruce Lee style kicking and punching I couldn't deny the fact that every single martial artist over a period of years coming in to challenge a Gracie in a close door no rules fight lost. They lost every single time. Including me. I couldn't deny reality. I wasn't afraid to test reality like you are. Go into a Gracie dojo and prove yourself. You won't because you can't. You imply that you are familiar with Escrima. Dan Inosantos was a big believer in the effectiveness of Gracie Jiu-Jitus and trained consistently taking private lessons from Roger Machado for years.
Royler Gracie is in the middle. Neither of the men of each side are near 6 foot tall.
(https://www.gracielegacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Royler_red_black.jpg)
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Gracies never said they were the best grapplers, they said their Jiu-Jitsu was the best style for submission grappling. And there is a reason in that fight you posted that after the match Yoshida was commonly referred to as "YoCheata". He was defeated by Royce in a rematch.
Again, the Gracies were the only one in their time that were always willing and able to prove their effectiveness. They realize you can debate until the cows come home but in the end they will just challenge you to a fight and prove it in real life. That's how I became a believer. I insisted I could keep someone from taking me down with punches and kicks and so they eventually said prove it. Pick one. I chose Royler since he was the smallest. About 5'5" 135 pounds. I was so proud that I easily had him on his back thinking how I was embarrassing all of them. That's until Royler popped my elbow. He couldn't speak English at the time but Royce, who did speak English, explained to me that I didn't tap. I told him I had no idea what he was doing until I felt my elbow popped. During the time period, 1991, it was inconceivable that someone could defend himself, let alone take someone out, while fighting off their back.
This is something you would never ever do. Put your money where your mouth is. I did and the Gracies did. I'm wasn't afraid of getting beaten up. I was more concerned with the truth. As much as I preferred the old Bruce Lee style kicking and punching I couldn't deny the fact that every single martial artist over a period of years coming in to challenge a Gracie in a close door no rules fight lost. They lost every single time. Including me. I couldn't deny reality. I wasn't afraid to test reality like you are. Go into a Gracie dojo and prove yourself. You won't because you can't. You imply that you are familiar with Escrima. Dan Inosantos was a big believer in the effectiveness of Gracie Jiu-Jitus and trained consistently taking private lessons from Roger Machado for years.
Royler Gracie is in the middle. Neither of the men of each side are near 6 foot tall.
(https://www.gracielegacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Royler_red_black.jpg)
And so did Chuck norris what's your point?
Shows maybe they are more tolerant than you are. By the way how many multiple Attack have you beaten off with your Gracie principles? 😂
Aside from the old hobo bum you boasted about 😁
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I have to be honest and say i never saw this fight but if there is any truth in this well i Rest my case. Not saying BJJ is not good but Just not what it's always made out to be.
And exactly what is your case?
Fortunately you have me, with some real inside info of the video you just posted.
First of all, this no shoes excuse is laughable. It's not unfair if everybody has to follow the same rules. No one was allowed to wear shoes. And Shamrock's crying about how much it hindered him is complete and utter bullshit. This lie about him slipping and not getting traction for submissions is a lie. The fight didn't even last long enough for sweat to be a factor and every martial art trains bare foot. Nobody wears shoes in modern MMA and nobody complains how it is a disadvantage because it is not.
Shamrock is right about the gi. Royce should not have been allowed to wear a gi. Even though the argument was that it was fair because everybody could wear a gi if they wanted to but for the rest of the fighters it was not an advantage because it didn't suit their fighting style. It is a huge advantage for a Jiu-Jitsu fighter to wear a gi and gave Royce an unfair advantage. That's why I technically left traditional Jiu-Jitsu training and after about 10 years stop training in the gi. There was too much dependence on the gi for control and for the techniques to work. Jiu-Jitsu got more tournament oriented rather than self defense/fighting oriented. I haven't and won't train in a gi for over ten years. Rickson has started a separate organization limiting the use of the gi and trying to bring back Jiu-Jitsu to it's fighting roots.
Shamrock is just telling a bald face lie about how he was training for a 3 hour fight and wanted to wear Royce down. Just a complete lie. He was openingly bragging how this time he was going to knock out Royce standing up inside of three minutes and not get into a grappling match which is Royce's strength, in fact his only strength. It was obvious to anyone with some familiarity with fighting that Royce has no stand up and if you were going to beat him it would be on his feet. That was obvious to everyone, especially Shamrock.
Again I provide evidence for my claims. Think about. Who thinks about wanting to fight for 3 hours. The goal is always to just drop your opponent into unconsciousness as fast as you can. Everyone wants to set a new record for fastest knockout. This idea that Shamrock had to change his strategy at the last minute because he trained to drag on a fight for 3 hours does not comport with common sense and is just a lie and a laughable sad excuse. Since he wanted to keep the fight on the feet, giving him, Shamrock the advantage, you really think he planned to dance around for 3 hours? Nothing would be more satisfying than dropping Royce in seconds with a punch or kick to the head. Training for 3 hours and having to change your strategy for a 3- minute fight -- lol. My main concern for a 3 hour fight would not be if I was in proper condition to last that long, but could I last that long without having to a pee. What a laughable crybaby excuse.
First Shamrock complains about about the fight being cut too short and then he complains about it being extended for 6 minutes. But he is right that it was utter bullshit for Rorion to do this and showed how biased the match was against Shamrock. Though it made no difference in the fight it just further detracted from the fight's credibility that you could suddenly change the rules in the middle of the event. Did Rorion really think Royce could improve his situation with more time? He was getting mauled. Rorion is smart but he did some dumb things like this. Just like when he agreed to a BJJ super fight pitting Royce with Wallid Ismail. Rorion knew Royce was not a legit black belt whereas Wallid was world class and had beaten other far more skilled and experience Gracies in tournaments.
It was draw because they had to end that boring fight at some point. This was now on TV and they did not have unlimited time. It was ruled a draw because neither fighters quit or was knocked out. That was the traditional Vale Tudo rules. You fight until someone quits by tapping or verbal surrender or is unable to fight due to being unconscious. But having said that it was clear that if you go by damage done, Royce lost that fight. Never would a Gracie settle for a draw but in this case it put Royce in the best light saying he fought to a draw when it was obvious that if it was truly a no time limit match Royce would have whithered away.
The third fight with Bellator was a complete disgrace and and a huge injustice done to Shamrock. Royce was working with Bellator and the obvious bias against Shamrock and trying to ensure victory for Royce was corruption and bias beyond anything Rorion had done. It was especially infuriating to me was that though I fly the Gracie flag, Shamrock was a legend and the rivalry between him and Royce was the stuff of legend.
Ken deserved better. To end a legendary career, one of the original stars that made this sport, in such a disgraceful fashion is just beyond injustice. There was no honor in that gift given to Royce. Every time I think about it. How Shamrock was treated is a huge black mark on MMA. I don't know who was responsible. It was the referee who stopped the fight but it was such an obvious bad call that I don't know if it was just bad refereeing or if the fix was in. Royce should have stopped and let Shamrock recover and try to achieve a legit honorable victory to and end this decades long classic rivalry with dignity and class. Such a disgrace. Such utter disrespect to one of the true legends in the UFC.
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And so did Chuck norris what's your point?
Shows maybe they are more tolerant than you are. By the way how many multiple Attack have you beaten off with your Gracie principles? 😂
Aside from the old hobo bum you boasted about 😁
You really are that dumb. My point is obvious. Unlike you, some like the Gracies, Chuck Norris, myself, and many others put their money where their mouth is and put themselves on the line and step up and test themselves in a real fight. Something you have never, and will never, do.
And I explained and posted a video by Rener Gracie that laid to rest this nonsense about fighting multiple attackers.
Why are you even talking about fighting and martial arts when you clearly have never stepped up and backed up, or attempt to back up, your big mouth? Again this is where the Gracies shined. This where I shine in living their philosophy. If this were in person and we spent all this time going back and forth I would realize that it reached a point where I will tell you that all this back and forth is going nowhere. Lets just square off right now and determine who can back up their claims. No hard feelings and well have a beer afterwards but for now lets just do what we are just talking bout. Actually fight. I wonder if someone like you would take up the on the spot challenge as the Gracies did. Instead of just talking and philosophizing about fighting -- to actually fight.
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You really are that dumb. My point is obvious. Unlike you, some like the Gracies, Chuck Norris, myself, and many others put their money where their mouth is and put themselves on the line and step up and test themselves in a real fight. Something you have never, and will never, do.
And I explained and posted a video by Rener Gracie that laid to rest this nonsense about fighting multiple attackers.
Why are you even talking about fighting and martial arts when you clearly have never stepped up and backed up, or attempt to back up, your big mouth? Again this is where the Gracies shined. This where I shine in living their philosophy. If this were in person and we spent all this time going back and forth I would realize that it reached a point where I will tell you that all this back and forth is going nowhere. Lets just square off right now and determine who can back up their claims. No hard feelings and well have a beer afterwards but for now lets just do what we are just talking bout. Actually fight. I wonder if someone like you would take up the on the spot challenge as the Gracies did. Instead of just talking and philosophizing about fighting -- to actually fight.
How funny you are. Trying to tell people in your post...
The fact remains that you can't refute any of my arguments with logic and facts. That's because you have none.
now you are just losing control of your emotions, never good in a fight either.
Acting like a street punk.
stick to beating old Hobos. :D
Also... don´t put yourself in the same class as chuck Norris. please don´t it´s embarrassing.
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How funny you are. Trying to tell people in your post...
The fact remains that you can't refute any of my arguments with logic and facts. That's because you have none.
now you are just losing control of your emotions, never good in a fight either.
Acting like a street punk.
stick to beating old Hobos. :D
Also... don´t put yourself in the same class as chuck Norris. please don´t it´s embarrassing.
Because it's true. You haven't presented a single piece of evidence to back up anything you claim.
I'm an in complete control of my emotions. You can only talk. Whether I am a good fighter or not the fact is I am always willing to step up and back up my claim. Something you have never done.
And what's this idiocy about me putting myself in the same class of Chuck Norris? Because we have both been tapped out by the Gracies? You're just not a very bright person.
Your ID been on this board for just over two months and you post constantly about things you know nothing about. And you wonder why nobody likes you here. But, of course, you've been here before. You sound very familiar and just another gimmick that has previously been driven off this board.
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Because it's true. You haven't presented a single piece of evidence to back up anything you claim.
I'm an in complete control of my emotions. You can only talk. Whether I am a good fighter or not the fact is I am always willing to step up and back up my claim. Something you have never done.
And what's this idiocy about me putting myself in the same class of Chuck Norris? Because we have both been tapped out by the Gracies? You're just not a very bright person.
Your ID been on this board for just over two months and you post constantly about things you know nothing about. And you wonder why nobody likes you here. But, of course, you've been here before. You sound very familiar and just another gimmick that has previously been driven off this board.
I´m not going to waste anymore words on you.
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Escrima, Pellius , did you know that i did finish a fight (real fight in the streets after walking from a nightclub in the middle of the night) with Dim Mak?
Was over 20 years ago, but still.
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Kwon circa 1995 ;D
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I´m not going to waste anymore words on you.
All your words are a waste. You have no experience or real knowledge of what you try to speak with authority about.
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you seem to get more punks in BJJ than anywhere else :D
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Escrima, Pellius , did you know that i did finish a fight (real fight in the streets after walking from a nightclub in the middle of the night) with Dim Mak?
Was over 20 years ago, but still.
If anyone could do it, it would be you. The sad fact is that though, at nine years old, I sent the $5.95 on my own money that saved up to Count Dante for his book that promised to teach me the secrets of Dim Mak, I never got the book. In my naivete, I sent cash and a lot of it was in coins so it was an easy mark for a postal worker thief.
I was devasted and told my father about the money I lost and if there was anything I could do about it. He didn't really care about me losing my hard earned money (I got paid a penny a minute for doing yard work or a neighbor). He did sit me down with my mother and wanted to know why I sent out for a book that would teach me to kill a man with a single strike at nine years old. It's still a source of great bitterness that I never learned this secret and probably why I reacted so strongly to Humble's bringing up the subject.
I shit you not, everytime I hear the words "Dim Mak" this image flashes in my mind. It's been seared in my brain. It was the ad I read in the back of a Soider Man comic book that inspired me to send for this course. I would just read and reread this ad over and over again impatiently waiting for my book to arrive. I cut it out and kept it with me at all times and constantly looked at it and admired the perceived lethality of Count Dante. "Deadliest Man Alive", "Black Dragon Fighting Society", "Forbidden Secrets", "The Death Touch". "The Dreaded Chinese Tong Society"... all this was just beyond excitement for a nine year old budding killing machine. I was convinced that this was it. This was going to transformed me to what I felt I was meant to become. The next deadliest man alive.
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you seem to get more punks in BJJ than anywhere else :D
Again proving you colossal ignorance. You have never trained in BJJ and know nothing about the martial art or the people that train in it. Just another arm chair jockey shooting off his mouth in anonymity.
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Again proving you colossal ignorance. You have never trained in BJJ and know nothing about the martial art or the people that train in it. Just another arm chair jockey shooting off his mouth in anonymity.
Nope i have not made any threats to anyone. Maybe where you trained they never thought you respect.
From what i can make out so far you seem to have anger issues with people on this board & off it.
I would not boast about beating some down & out Hobo over a cheese burger.
you Sir are a loser.
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Most people have not heard of Kosen Judo.
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Kwon circa 1995 ;D
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If anyone could do it, it would be you. The sad fact is that though, at nine years old, I sent the $5.95 on my own money that saved up to Count Dante for his book that promised to teach me the secrets of Dim Mak, I never got the book. In my naivete, I sent cash and a lot of it was in coins so it was an easy mark for a postal worker thief.
I was devasted and told my father about the money I lost and if there was anything I could do about it. He didn't really care about me losing my hard earned money (I got paid a penny a minute for doing yard work or a neighbor). He did sit me down with my mother and wanted to know why I sent out for a book that would teach me to kill a man with a single strike at nine years old. It's still a source of great bitterness that I never learned this secret and probably why I reacted so strongly to Humble's bringing up the subject.
I shit you not, everytime I hear the words "Dim Mak" this image flashes in my mind. It's been seared in my brain. It was the ad I read in the back of a Soider Man comic book that inspired me to send for this course. I would just read and reread this ad over and over again impatiently waiting for my book to arrive. I cut it out and kept it with me at all times and constantly looked at it and admired the perceived lethality of Count Dante. "Deadliest Man Alive", "Black Dragon Fighting Society", "Forbidden Secrets", "The Death Touch". "The Dreaded Chinese Tong Society"... all this was just beyond excitement for a nine year old budding killing machine. I was convinced that this was it. This was going to transformed me to what I felt I was meant to become. The next deadliest man alive.
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I had a run in with the Count's people years ago. Back in 1997 I somehow came across this very book you are talking about and in it was the new leader's (since Dante's death) phone number. His last name was Aguilar and he lived in the Fall River Massachusetts region. I called him up and asked what I thought was an innocent question about Ashida Kim (a fraud who claimed he ran the Black Dragon Fighting Society). I simply asked if they were affiliated and Aguilar blew up on the phone and was cussing and screaming for like 5 minutes straight saying he would kill Ashida Kim if he every got close to him. I apologized and moved on.
Fast forward a few months and I found their website and joined their forum. All of the Black Dragon guys were ignorant to the point of not even being able to write a sentence correctly. I explained what happened months earlier and made the point that the Aguilar guy seemed out of control and ignorant. This set off a storm! A few of his students said they had my IP address and were coming to my town in Ohio (they named it) to murder me! I believed it possible these lunatics were totally capable of trying this so I contacted the local police and told them what happened and to watch for Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island plates around my apartment while I was at work. Nothing else ever came of it.
Back in the '70's Dante took some of his students to fight another dojo across Chicago. Several guys were stabbed and 1 guy died. Count Dante died of ulcers before the trial. The guy was a hairdresser as well as martial arts instructor. A very violent and crazy guy.
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I'll take a baseball bat and destroy those guys.
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My rule of thumb re pellius: Don't believe a word he says.
I do not care who he is nor do i care who he has trained with.
everyone has an opinion but you should not be opinionated.
He is sadly on a range of topics.
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I do not care who he is nor do i care who he has trained with.
everyone has an opinion but you should not be opinionated.
He is sadly on a range of topics.
He is a man of parallels
Only one thing is certain though, you don't mess or steal from Pellius, or you will surely get a knucklesandwich
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He is a man of parallels
Only one thing is certain though, you don't mess or steal from Pellius, or you will surely get a knucklesandwich
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But do you all have a Black Belt in Dim Mak like i have though?
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Any guy who is supposed to be legit Martial arts expert regardless what style or school who writes on an open forum boasting about slapping some old drunk Hobo is just a fraud in my eyes. A Bum a punk.
Not a man.
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Any guy who is supposed to be legit Martial arts expert regardless what style or school who writes on an open forum boasting about slapping some old drunk Hobo is just a fraud in my eyes. A Bum a punk.
Not a man.
He's just honest, not bragging about it.
If someone assaulted me or tried to steal from me and i had to resort to my Black Belt in Dim Wit, i'd write about it too, if necessary/having to prove a point.
Pellius is definitely one of the better fighters on GB, i guarantee it.
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He's just honest, not bragging about it.
If someone assaulted me or tried to steal from me and i had to resort to my Black Belt in Dim Wit, i'd write about it too, if necessary/having to prove a point.
Pellius is definitely one of the better fighters on GB, i guarantee it.
I think he´s all mouth. has a real personality disorder.
Punks always pick on weak people.
If you brag about it on a Bodybuilding forum you are a piece of filth.
If you are such a master of BJJ why hit an old Hobo?
I have been in many situations where i just let it go because i know it´s not worth it.
This Pellius guy i know has been associated with other filth.
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I think he´s all mouth. has a real personality disorder.
Punks always pick on weak people.
If you brag about it on a Bodybuilding forum you are a piece of filth.
If you are such a master of BJJ why hit an old Hobo?
I have been in many situations where i just let it go because i know it´s not worth it.
This Pellius guy i know has been associated with other filth.
The Hobo was assaulting him i believe. Pellius didn't attack him out of thin air.
I can not talk for Pellius . but only myself, and i've mainly used my martial arts skills as self-defence , for defending myself when attacked.
Never to bully someone.
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The Hobo was assaulting him i believe. Pellius didn't attack him out of thin air.
I can not talk for Pellius . but only myself, and i've mainly used my martial arts skills as self-defence , for defending myself when attacked.
Never to bully someone.
Being honest, would you write about such an encounter on a Bodybuilding Forum, which is watched probably by some pro Bodybuilders & martial arts guys?
think about it
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Also i am sure there are a lot of Cops or ex Cops on here who have dealt with much worse.
Do they boast about it? No.
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Being honest, would you write about such an encounter on a Bodybuilding Forum, which is watched probably by some pro Bodybuilders & martial arts guys?
think about it
I don't post on BB.com, but i regard most here as family (been here since 2003), and can definitely tell people here about some of the encounters.
I did some bad stuff when i was young (late teens), but i wouldn't say i bullied people.
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I don't post on BB.com, but i regard most here as family (been here since 2003), and can definitely tell people here about some of the encounters.
I did some bad stuff when i was young (late teens), but i wouldn't say i bullied people.
I would be ashamed of myself to boast about slapping a Hobo.
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I would be ashamed of myself to boast about slapping a Hobo.
End of Topic.
Unless the Hobo was Primemuscle.
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Nope i have not made any threats to anyone. Maybe where you trained they never thought you respect.
From what i can make out so far you seem to have anger issues with people on this board & off it.
I would not boast about beating some down & out Hobo over a cheese burger.
you Sir are a loser.
Who said you threatened anyone? Why would you? You couldn't back it up and will only get your sorry ass kicked?
LOL @ "anger issues". How woke of you? Should I see therapy as well because I have little patience with those that have a achieved a special level of stupic?
For someone who's ID is only two months old you sure are familiar with a lot of this board's history? So whose gimmick are you? Who drove you off this board
Anybody that gets into a fist fight will relate that incident to others. It's not something that happens everyday. To you it's a boast because it's something you would never do. You definitely come off as a coward and a pussy. If some bum exposes himself to you or to your daughter or wife and demands your food you would just surrender. Not me. I stand up for myself. That thread definitely exposed who the pussies are and who the real men are.
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Ahhhhh so..."Dim Wit" is the supreme martial art upon which Grand Master Moe based "Dim Bulb" upon. I kowtow to you Master Kwon and later will sacrifice a slab of bacon upon the Alter of Supreme Sheit in a display of homage and obeisance to your knowledge.
In the language of the Dinduites, U B duh Manz!
Scott,
You are Getbig's resident Professor of Erudition.
I am in awe of you, Sir.
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Who said you threatened anyone? Why would you? You couldn't back it up and will only get your sorry ass kicked?
LOL @ "anger issues". How woke of you? Should I see therapy as well because I have little patience with those that have a achieved a special level of stupic?
For someone who's ID is only two months old you sure are familiar with a lot of this board's history? So whose gimmick are you? Who drove you off this board
Anybody that gets into a fist fight will relate that incident to others. It's not something that happens everyday. To you it's a boast because it's something you would never do. You definitely come off as a coward and a pussy. If some bum exposes himself to you or to your daughter or wife and demands your food you would just surrender. Not me. I stand up for myself. That thread definitely exposed who the pussies are and who the real men are.
pellius i can assure you i can defend myself.
You have showed to me that you have no respect.
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Would love to see Pellius VS escrima
SET IT UP!
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I had a run in with the Count's people years ago. Back in 1997 I somehow came across this very book you are talking about and in it was the new leader's (since Dante's death) phone number. His last name was Aguilar and he lived in the Fall River Massachusetts region. I called him up and asked what I thought was an innocent question about Ashida Kim (a fraud who claimed he ran the Black Dragon Fighting Society). I simply asked if they were affiliated and Aguilar blew up on the phone and was cussing and screaming for like 5 minutes straight saying he would kill Ashida Kim if he every got close to him. I apologized and moved on.
Fast forward a few months and I found their website and joined their forum. All of the Black Dragon guys were ignorant to the point of not even being able to write a sentence correctly. I explained what happened months earlier and made the point that the Aguilar guy seemed out of control and ignorant. This set off a storm! A few of his students said they had my IP address and were coming to my town in Ohio (they named it) to murder me! I believed it possible these lunatics were totally capable of trying this so I contacted the local police and told them what happened and to watch for Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island plates around my apartment while I was at work. Nothing else ever came of it.
Back in the '70's Dante took some of his students to fight another dojo across Chicago. Several guys were stabbed and 1 guy died. Count Dante died of ulcers before the trial. The guy was a hairdresser as well as martial arts instructor. A very violent and crazy guy.
Now this is an incredible story! I never thought these people or organizations even existed. With MMA now going full bore and rival martial arts gyms competition against each other have a "fighting organization" seems like such a joke now. Why don't they try their skills in the UFC? Let me guess, it's because their "kung fu" is useless unless they are able to use their secret deadly Dim Mak like techniques. They would not be able to maneuver a regular strike unless it is a death strike.
I could imagine the kooks in that obscure underworld.
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I do not care who he is nor do i care who he has trained with.
everyone has an opinion but you should not be opinionated.
He is sadly on a range of topics.
Have opinions but don't express it. You're even more of a phaggot than you seem.
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Yes, you would tremble in fear in real life. Like so many here, you are quite brave mouthing off in anonymity. Why don't you a least a post a pic so that we know what you look like? You won't because you will be laughed off this board and have start all over again like you are doing now. I've been on this board for over a decade. My picture, my address, my house, my name is all out there.
That's one of the difference between me and you. Someone that's straight up and someone that's a snivelling little coward in hiding.
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Now this is an incredible story! I never thought these people or organizations even existed. With MMA now going full bore and rival martial arts gyms competition against each other have a "fighting organization" seems like such a joke now. Why don't they try their skills in the UFC? Let me guess, it's because their "kung fu" is useless unless they are able to use their secret deadly Dim Mak like techniques. They would not be able to maneuver a regular strike unless it is a death strike.
I could imagine the kooks in that obscure underworld.
oh come on now..we know you bully old Hobo men.
Please stop your nonsense on here.
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Any guy who is supposed to be legit Martial arts expert regardless what style or school who writes on an open forum boasting about slapping some old drunk Hobo is just a fraud in my eyes. A Bum a punk.
Not a man.
I never claimed to be an expert of anything. You just made that up.
Boasting has nothing to do with being a martial artist. So Connor Mcgregor is not a martial artist? Tony Ferguson is not a martial artist?
Relating a fight is now boasting?
Not a man? Say that to my face. It will never happen even if you lived in Hawaii. You are too afraid to show your face here on a message board.
And you talk about manhood.
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I never claimed to be an expert of anything. You just made that up.
Boasting has nothing to do with being a martial artist. So Connor Mcgregor is not a martial artist? Tony Ferguson is not a martial artist?
Relating a fight is now boasting?
Not a man? Say that to my face. It will never happen even if you lived in Hawaii. You are too afraid to show your face here on a message board.
And you talk about manhood.
Manhood? let´s talk about honor.
I just hope the people you trained under do not read these Boards.
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I'm thinking the Machados are very proud of Pellius for standing up for himself against that Hobo that wanted to steal his burger
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I'm thinking the Machados are very proud of Pellius for standing up for himself against that Hobo that wanted to steal his burger
yes i am sure they are
He´s a great ambassador for their system.
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I think he´s all mouth. has a real personality disorder.
Punks always pick on weak people.
If you brag about it on a Bodybuilding forum you are a piece of filth.
If you are such a master of BJJ why hit an old Hobo?
I have been in many situations where i just let it go because i know it´s not worth it.
This Pellius guy i know has been associated with other filth.
So a bum demands your food and then stands a few feet away from you staring at you with his junk hanging out and I'm the bully? Of course you would let it go. You're a coward. You would surrender your ground and retreat. That's the reason why we have problems like this. It's because people are cowards. We surrender our parks, our streets, our public bathrooms... they took out all the outdoor chairs and tables in the area because of the bums making it their homes. People like you are even willing to surrender out country.
Imagine a world under Pellius' rule and then imagine a world under "escrima" rule. Actually, we don't have to imagine it. It's happening now. A pussified society surrendering to the thugs, punks, bums, and low-lifes in this world.
People like me make the world a better place. People like you make it worse.
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Being honest, would you write about such an encounter on a Bodybuilding Forum, which is watched probably by some pro Bodybuilders & martial arts guys?
think about it
Every conceivable life experience has been written on this board.
The more you write the dumber you sound.
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So a bum demands your food and then stands a few feet away from you staring at you with his junk hanging out and I'm the bully? Of course you would let it go. You're a coward. You would surrender your ground and retreat. That's the reason why we have problems like this. It's because people are cowards. We surrender our parks, our streets, our public bathrooms... they took out all the outdoor chairs and tables in the area because of the bums making it their homes. People like you are even willing to surrender out country.
Imagine a world under Pellius' rule and then imagine a world under "escrima" rule. Actually, we don't have to imagine it. It's happening now. A pussified society surrendering to the thugs, punks, bums, and low-lifes in this world.
People like me make the world a better place. People like you make it worse.
who gave you a Black Belt?
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Also i am sure there are a lot of Cops or ex Cops on here who have dealt with much worse.
Do they boast about it? No.
Not boasting. Lying just comes naturally to you. And you don't know shit about the experiences any cops or ex-cops have had. And there could be legal reprecussions talking about an incident on a public forum you were involved with while wearing the badge.
You really don't give much thought to the things that you say.
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Not boasting. Lying just comes naturally to you. And you don't know shit about the experiences any cops or ex-cops have had. And there could be legal reprecussions talking about an incident on a public forum you were involved with while wearing the badge.
You really don't give much thought to the things that you say.
I have more experience than you can imagine.
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I would be ashamed of myself to boast about slapping a Hobo.
End of Topic.
Why would you be? It would never happen. A bum will smack you around and you wouldn't do shit. You've never stood up for anything in your life if it might lead to a physical confrontation.
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yes i am sure they are
He´s a great ambassador for their system.
Yes, he is also a man of parallels and principles.
Not someone to be trifled with.
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Yes, he is also a man of parallels and principles.
Not someone to be trifled with.
Who will win in a fight? The man known as esfitness, who opens flight doors mid flight to take a piss or bum wielding double quarter pounder pellius? Getbiggers want to know
This fight could be like Tyson vs Jones Jr or the second coming of mayweather vs mcgregor
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Why would you be? It would never happen. A bum will smack you around and you wouldn't do shit. You've never stood up for anything in your life if it might lead to a physical confrontation.
Have you ever killed a Man?
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I used to be as ripped as Bruce when I was 19
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I used to be as ripped as Bruce when I was 19
Bro...
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Meng would have destroyed Bruce Lee
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pellius i can assure you i can defend myself.
You have showed to me that you have no respect.
No you can't. You have assured me that you are all mouth and no action and that you are a pussy and a coward and deserving of no respect. And you get none on this board. Nobody respects you here.
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oh come on now..we know you bully old Hobo men.
Please stop your nonsense on here.
"We"? Whose "We"? Read that thread again gimmick. There were far more people that supported me defending myself and defending common decency than the few pussified men like you destroying manhood and our society.
When we all talk about what is going on in this country. Turning a blind eye to rioters, thugs, and criminals while arresting decent citizens arming themselves against those breaking into their property and threatening them. I'm sure you feel those exercising their second ammendment rights as "bullys".
GTFOH phaggot!
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Manhood? let´s talk about honor.
I just hope the people you trained under do not read these Boards.
LOL at a gimmick that was driven off this board and now comes slinking back under a new name talking about honor. You know nothing about honor.
You bash the Gracies, a family that stood up for what they believe and proved it with action instead of words and completely change martial arts throughout the world.
You just talk and hide behind a computer. Be a man and show some honor and courage and step out of hiding. Show us who you are.
"Honor". You talk of honor. What a joke you anonymous coward.
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I'm thinking the Machados are very proud of Pellius for standing up for himself against that Hobo that wanted to steal his burger
That's a fact. Many years ago when I first started training with them there was some punk out in the parking lot harassing people. The Machados and their students came out and showed this punk, with action and not just words, that this was a bad idea. I wrote letter to the editor of the local paper describing this event and it was published. Jean Jacques Machado personally thanked me as the school was still new, BJJ not very well known, and this was good publicity for the school.
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who gave you a Black Belt?
Who said I got a Black Belt? When have I ever said I got a Black Belt? Why do you just make things up and speak of things in which you have no knowledge of? I have said many times before, and I have even said in this thread, that I quit traditional Jiu-Jitsu because it became more tournament focused and not self-defense. There was too much emphasis on using the gi as a weapon. Nobody wears a gi in real life. 80% for the stuff you were learning, very complicated and intricate techniques, were mostly useless in a real no-gi fist fight. I stopped training with the Machados formally although I continued to train no-gi with the people who trained there informally as we were all friends. I went the another academy run by UFC welter-weight Frank Trigg and 1987 NCAA national champion Rico Chiapparelli. It was an MMA gym and we didn't wear a gi and it had a more wrestling oriented ground game. Not so much guard play.
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I have more experience than you can imagine.
No you don't. We've read all your post here as you have been sitting on this board all day and night for the last two months you've been here posting constantly. Nobody takes you seriously here. You're just an anonymous big mouth on the net. Why do you hide behind a computer. Come out of hiding and show yourself, coward.
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Meng would have destroyed Bruce Lee
Only, under WWF circus rules !.
Why he didn't pop up to Pride & try Mirko or Fedor !. Or try his luck in Thailand !.
;D
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No you don't. We've read all your post here as you have been sitting on this board all day and night for the last two months you've been here posting constantly. Nobody takes you seriously here. You're just an anonymous big mouth on the net. Why do you hide behind a computer. Come out of hiding and show yourself, coward.
Pellius, it’s the same little bedwetting queer who tries to get you riled up under a dozen different gimmick accounts. People who are tough and not afraid to defend or protect themselves don’t go running around the internet telling anonymous strangers how tough they are. Stop wasting your time arguing with a guy who would piss his pants if a housewife yelled at him in a grocery store parking lot.
The only two fights this guy has ever been in were with his sister at his sixth birthday party and a slap fest with his first boyfriend when he got dumped.
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That's a fact. Many years ago when I first started training with them there was some punk out in the parking lot harassing people. The Machados and their students came out and showed this punk, with action and not just words, that this was a bad idea. I wrote letter to the editor of the local paper describing this event and it was published. Jean Jacques Machado personally thanked me as the school was still new, BJJ not very well known, and this was good publicity for the school.
You live in a fantasy World.
Stop embarrassing yourself. Please this is painful to read.
Beating up some weak hobo and saying it was good publicity.
Just a loser
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Pellius, it’s the same little bedwetting queer who tries to get you riled up under a dozen different gimmick accounts. People who are tough and not afraid to defend or protect themselves don’t go running around the internet telling anonymous strangers how tough they are. Stop wasting your time arguing with a guy who would piss his pants if a housewife yelled at him in a grocery store parking lot.
The only two fights this guy has ever been in were with his sister at his sixth birthday party and a slap fest with his first boyfriend when he got dumped.
LOL! Classic Sobchak.
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You live in a fantasy World.
Stop embarrassing yourself. Please this is painful to read.
Beating up some weak hobo and saying it was good publicity.
Just a loser
Like I said, no one here takes you seriously. You're a delusional clown.
... a guy who would piss his pants if a housewife yelled at him in a grocery store parking lot.
The only two fights this guy has ever been in were with his sister at his sixth birthday party and a slap fest with his first boyfriend when he got dumped.
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Like I said, no one here takes you seriously. You're a delusional clown.
you need to take up Tai Chi. I honestly think you have anger issues.
Why is this? Did your daddy not love you?
you threaten anyone who disagrees with you but one Day you´ll do it to the wrong guy.
Just food for thought
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you need to take up Tai Chi. I honestly think you have anger issues.
Why is this? Did your daddy not love you?
you threaten anyone who disagrees with you but one Day you´ll do it to the wrong guy.
Just food for thought
A cowardly gimmick trying to give me advice.
"One day you'll do it to the wrong guy." Really? You haven't been paying attention, my little bitch boy -- I'm that wrong guy. You shoot off your mouth and now you're getting brutally owned and humiliated. Time to disappear again and try to come back as yet another gimmick.
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A cowardly gimmick trying to give me advice.
"One day you'll do it to the wrong guy." Really? You haven't been paying attention, my little bitch boy -- I'm that wrong guy. You shoot off your mouth and now you're getting brutally owned and humiliated. Time to disappear again and try to come back as yet another gimmick.
Grow up ::)
why do you threaten people? do you really think i care about some punk like you? ;D
you seem to think you have an internet reputation maybe you need a job?
just stay out my face on here i do not have time for this.
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you need to take up Tai Chi. I honestly think you have anger issues.
Why is this? Did your daddy not love you?
you threaten anyone who disagrees with you but one Day you´ll do it to the wrong guy.
Just food for thought
Just because your dad assfucked you doesn’t mean he loved you.
Liberal pussy.
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LOL! Classic Sobchak.
Gotta love Sobchak! :D
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real men with Honor
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Gotta love Sobchak! :D
Dinner, a few dozen drinks, and we can go slap a few liberal phaggots around at Starbucks for a first date.
Then go play some late night rat hockey to get the blood flowing.
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Grow up ::)
why do you threaten people? do you really think i care about some punk like you? ;D
you seem to think you have an internet reputation maybe you need a job?
just stay out my face on here i do not have time for this.
You care plenty. That's why you're here. But this is typical. A gimmick previously driven off this board comes back with the same old arrogant, a-hole attitude and found that he has picked a fight with the wrong guy. Now he cries and wants to be left alone. "Stay out of my face". You're the one who started shit with me so take your beating like the little bitch you are.
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Just because your dad assfucked you doesn’t mean he loved you.
Liberal pussy.
LMAO! This gimmick is just getting sad. Time to bail on another account and try to come back again and start over.
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real men with Honor
Nobody reads your vids. The only honor you show is douching your anal canal prior to being plowed by your nig boyfriend.
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Pellius for someone who is not bothered you seem to write a Lot of hate in my direction.
Stop the childish nonsense. Let it go.
Might feel better 🤭
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Pellius for someone who is not bothered you seem to write a Lot of hate in my direction.
Stop the childish nonsense. Let it go.
Might feel better 🤭
LOL. Nice try. Read through this thread again while you are searching through my 20,000+ posts (what a loser). You started shit with me. I ignore you as it's clear you are an arrogant asshole that I don't want to have anything to do with. But if you start shit with me, you are getting it back ten fold. I only respond to your bullshit. I don't initiate it. You want to "let it go" which obviously you do as you are continually getting brutalize by me and others, notice not a single word of support for you just constant flaming, then just STFU, walk away, avoid me as much as possible, and try to save what little dignity you have left and quit crying about how much I "hate" you.
Damn, you are one whiny little pussy.
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Ok my last post on this.
Here is my advice pellius, switch off your PC for a few days.
Go outside look for a Job or another Hobby. Hell even meet a woman or maybe a man in your case. Not sure.
Spending what's left of your life on here is not productive. Clearly not good for your health.
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Ok my last post on this.
Here is my advice pellius, switch off your PC for a few days.
Go outside look for a Job or another Hobby. Hell even meet a woman or maybe a man in your case. Not sure.
Spending what's left of your life on here is not productive. Clearly not good for your health.
LOL @ you giving me advice. You are on this board night and day. I've been married and have been with the same woman for nine years now, raising two kids, I body surf, train weights, do Jiu-Jitsu, shoot 3 gun. I worked in Aerospace for nearly 30 years, currently employed with TD Ameritrade though our office is close due to the virus. I have a house near the shore living in Hawaii. All verified with pictures throughout the years.
What about you, you piece of shit? What do you do? What do you look like? How great of shape are you in? What do you do for a living?
A cowardly anonymous fuck like you trying to give me life advice? Maybe you should shut off the PC or find another board where you are not a laughing stock that is routinely flamed. Haven't you notice that nobody supports you here.
Go fuck yourself, asshole and try to give at least a half second thought before you open your big mouth again.
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LOL @ you giving me advice. You are on this board night and day. I've been married and have been with the same woman for nine years now, raising two kids, I body surf, train weights, do Jiu-Jitsu, shoot 3 gun. I worked in Aerospace for nearly 30 years, currently employed with TD Ameritrade though our office is close due to the virus. I have a house near the shore living in Hawaii. All verified with pictures throughout the years.
What about you, you piece of shit? What do you do? What do you look like? How great of shape are you in? What do you do for a living?
A cowardly anonymous fuck like you trying to give me life advice? Maybe you should shut off the PC or find another board where you are not a laughing stock that is routinely flamed. Haven't you notice that nobody supports you here.
Go fuck yourself, asshole and try to give at least a half second thought before you open your big mouth again.
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Nobody reads your links.
So much for "this is my last post."
A true man of honor and a man of his word.
Now go change you diaper and open up your cum hole for your impatient boyfriend whose getting jealous that you are spending so much time on me. So, what year are you at now in my post history?
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i want to roll with that Girly ;)
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i want to roll with that Girly ;)
No girl will want to get near you. And your boy friend won't allow it.
And you talking about "rolling". LOL, what a joke.
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No girl will want to get near you. And your boy friend won't allow it.
And you talking about "rolling". LOL, what a joke.
I body surf, train weights, do Jiu-Jitsu, shoot 3 gun. I worked in Aerospace for nearly 30 years, currently employed with TD Ameritrade though our office is close due to the virus. I have a house near the shore living in Hawaii. All verified with pictures throughout the years. wow what a stud
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OK no joking here, how old are you?
you can´t be more than say 25 right?
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got to be some little skinny gook ;D
why don´t i come to your Hawaiin dojo
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got to be some little skinny gook ;D
why don´t i come to your Hawaiin dojo
You should visit Pellius, you'd be surprised.
Dude is ripped with very long reach (both arms and legs are long) and much older than 25.
Escrima - Why you shouldn't be a spermagulper - case study
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OK no joking here, how old are you?
you can´t be more than say 25 right?
Still asking for a lot of personal information, information that has already been posted, by someone too chicken-shit and ashamed to post a pic.
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got to be some little skinny gook ;D
why don´t i come to your Hawaiin dojo
Why don't you? Weather is a lot nicer here and the Chinese virus is killing everybody like in New York.
By your name maybe you are a Pinoy. I am too. My mother is from Ilo-ilo but the difference between you and me was I wasn't cursed with the Fhilipino propensity for being a midget. Over six feet tall and keep in fighting shape.
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You know when you have someone by their saggy balls when they make a posts saying it's their last post as they don't have time for this as their real life is too important and then come back with frantic meltdowns and threatening PMs never leaving the board except to sleep and get his throat fucked by his boy friend.
Ok my last post on this.
Here is my advice pellius, switch off your PC for a few days.
Go outside look for a Job or another Hobby. Hell even meet a woman or maybe a man in your case. Not sure.
Spending what's left of your life on here is not productive. Clearly not good for your health.
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Escrima getting owned left and right in this thread
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You know when you have someone by their saggy balls when they make a posts saying it's their last post as they don't have time for this as their real life is too important and then come back with frantic meltdowns and threatening PMs never leaving the board except to sleep and get his throat fucked by his boy friend.
Nice post.
Good strong opening, right to the point, profane yet amusing, excellent reference to escrima’s phaggotry.
Well done...Sobchak approved.
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A papercut to one of those hideous veins would likely end things quickly.
Has steroid abuse caused his mongoloid face & big ears? :-\
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Has steroid abuse caused his mongoloid face & big ears? :-\
I have never fought Pellius but you could see that those long arms and legs (he is 6 feet + as well) will give people trouble.
Combine that with his many years of martial arts experience and he is a problem.
If you can't take him down you're bound to get clipped, and if you manage to take him down, his main forté is Jiu Jitsu after all. A Problem.
I wouldn't go to Hawaii and challenge him unless Henda paid for the trip.
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Escrima should go to Hawaii and hang dong while attempting to steal pellius’ cheeseburger and see what happens.Also video tape it as it might be the best thing I could see in this lifetime.
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Escrima should go to Hawaii and hang dong while attempting to steal pellius’ cheeseburger and see what happens.Also video tape it as it might be the best thing I could see in this lifetime.
No Master steals a cheeseburger nor does he eat one.
I live a very spartan lifestyle & diet.
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Escrima now at the beginning stages of a nervous breakdown. Frantically launching PM attacks at full auto. His mind has now been completely taken over. Suicide watch forthcoming.
come to new york punk
gonna fuck you up asshole
His attacks getting more creative.
You have big ears
After brooding for just over 50 minutes trying to come up with something to match that biting wit he follows with:
what big ears you have
And now the coup de grace, this time with a picture. Devastating.
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No Master steals a cheeseburger nor does he eat one.
I live a very spartan lifestyle & diet.
Yet you are not even remotely close to being as lean and toned as I am.
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Yet you are not even remotely close to being as lean and toned as I am.
Having seen your pictures brother, I think that few are. Wes comes to mind and I know there are others but can't recall them right now. Of course I am not among them. ;D
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Quote from: Roast Beef Pecs on Today at 08:26:56 AM
A papercut to one of those hideous veins would likely end things quickly.
Has steroid abuse caused his mongoloid face & big ears? :-\
LOL! Now this is hilarious. The board's cum guzzling cuck, and Plain Jane's bitch, makes and appearance hoping to finally find a board ally. And what a strong and brutal attack.
Busting on prominate veins and vascularity on a bbing board which is one of the hallmarks of conditioning. At least you did delete that post realizing it's almost as lame as your canned response to Plane Jane which further highlights how brain dead you are.
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Having seen your pictures brother, I think that few are. Wes comes to mind and I know there are others but can't recall them right now. Of course I am not among them. ;D
All QP's with cheese and post meal bum ass-kicking cardio.
There is a reason Escrima is afraid to post a pic. Further humiliating will result in suicide.
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Has steroid abuse caused his mongoloid face & big ears? :-\
I have never fought Pellius but you could see that those long arms and legs (he is 6 feet + as well) will give people trouble.
Combine that with his many years of martial arts experience and he is a problem.
If you can't take him down you're bound to get clipped, and if you manage to take him down, his main forté is Jiu Jitsu after all. A Problem.
I wouldn't go to Hawaii and challenge him unless Henda paid for the trip.
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Escrima now at the beginning stages of a nervous breakdown. Frantically launching PM attacks at full auto. His mind has now been completely taken over. Suicide watch forthcoming.
His attacks getting more creative.
After brooding for just over 50 minutes trying to come up with something to match that biting wit he follows with:
And now the coup de grace, this time with a picture. Devastating.
That settles it, he's a gimmick.
A True Master using Grandmaster Filemon Canetes style from Cebu city would not resort to such thing.
well i´m Master Cebu.
I was born in Cebu City
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That settles it, he's a gimmick.
A True Master using Grandmaster Filemon Canetes style from Cebu city would not resort to such thing.
So he is a Pinoy and therefore a midget. LOL, and that midget threatens to drag me by my ears? He can't even reach my ears without a foot stool.
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Yet you are not even remotely close to being as lean and toned as I am.
Pellius is a Muntzer of GB, & I'm jelaous 8)
Cebu guy should cool off !.
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So he is a Pinoy and therefore a midget. LOL, and that midget threatens to drag me by my ears? He can't even reach my ears without a foot stool.
Yeah, fillipinos rarely reach your height or reach.
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Yeah, fillipinos rarely reach your height or reach.
2 more months to return of King Bjorn Ironside & his smashing of Rus Vikings !.
Ivar is mega pissed ;D !.
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Pellius has veins that defy Oreos.
(https://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/i/spin/10127449/prod_ec_1966516502??hei=64&wid=64&qlt=50)
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2 more months to return of King Bjorn Ironside & his smashing of Rus Vikings !.
Ivar is mega pissed ;D !.
Return? Wasn't he killed by Ivar in the last EP?
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Return? Wasn't he killed by Ivar in the last EP?
Was he dreaming it?
If they kill off Bjorn who is left?
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Was he dreaming it?
If they kill off Bjorn who is left?
Ivar, Nattsärk, Oleg, Erik the Viking and Ubbe.
Rollo in France :D
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Return? Wasn't he killed by Ivar in the last EP?
NO ............that was in Ivars head !.
Amazing opening scene ,Bjorn rides toward all Rus Vikings army ............. ;D
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Ivar, Nattsärk, Oleg, Erik the Viking and Ubbe.
Rollo in France :D
Have you visited Rollo tomb in Normandy !?.
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I have never fought Pellius but you could see that those long arms and legs (he is 6 feet + as well) will give people trouble.
Combine that with his many years of martial arts experience and he is a problem.
If you can't take him down you're bound to get clipped, and if you manage to take him down, his main forté is Jiu Jitsu after all. A Problem.
I wouldn't go to Hawaii and challenge him unless Henda paid for the trip.
Seriously i Would smoke this guy easy. long Arms and Legs? +6 feet tall? 6 feet? That is not that big! Thats maybe 80 kg in good shape...come to Germany for a good smack! I Know you do Martial Arts, but you are all talk and no Action. @ Pellius. Yeah Jiu Jitsu You cant even Box..and how old are you now? Yeah you are old..
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Seriously i Would smoke this guy easy. long Arms and Legs? +6 feet tall? 6 feet? That is not that big! Thats maybe 80 kg in good shape...come to Germany for a good smack! I Know you do Martial Arts, but you are all talk and no Action. @ Pellius. Yeah Jiu Jitsu You cant even Box..and how old are you now? Yeah you are old..
So WHY don't you give a good smack to arabs & afros who grope & rape German females.
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Seriously i Would smoke this guy easy. long Arms and Legs? +6 feet tall? 6 feet? That is not that big! Thats maybe 80 kg in good shape...come to Germany for a good smack! I Know you do Martial Arts, but you are all talk and no Action. @ Pellius. Yeah Jiu Jitsu You cant even Box..and how old are you now? Yeah you are old..
Haha how am i all talk and no action? :D
I was telling his opponent , Escrima, who is a filippino thats probably around 5'5" that Pellius is way over 6 feet, that it would probably be a problem for him.
Trying to avoid embarassement for him.
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So WHY don't you give a good smack to arabs & afros who grope & rape German females.
Yeah, why dont you give the people free Health care? And Homes made from stone? I mean, i realy like you're paper-homes but that's not like we do it in Germany..we build things for more than 10 Years..:D Hurricane? no Problem..but hey be happy with you're three jobs to make a living. Hopefully you dont get shot in the parking lot. By the way crime rates are much higher in the U.S.A......Land of the Free, and i like the USA! But dont be delusional, Germany is much more advanced than the U.S.A..(I hope you know that)
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Yeah, why dont you give the people free Health care? And Homes made from stone? I mean, i realy like you're paper-homes but that's not like we do it in Germany..we build things for more than 10 Years..:D Hurricane? no Problem..but hey be happy with you're three jobs to make a living. Hopefully you dont get shot in the parking lot. By the way crime rates are much higher in the U.S.A......Land of the Free, and i like the USA! But dont be delusional, Germany is much more advanced than the U.S.A..(I hope you know that)
People should earn a living.
Does Germany have hurricanes? No...Really. Do they actually get hurricanes there? Wow. I never would have thought it possible.
There are few real Germans. Self imposed genocide suicide by divershitty. Fuck That Noise.
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Yeah, why dont you give the people free Health care? And Homes made from stone? I mean, i realy like you're paper-homes but that's not like we do it in Germany..we build things for more than 10 Years..:D Hurricane? no Problem..but hey be happy with you're three jobs to make a living. Hopefully you dont get shot in the parking lot. By the way crime rates are much higher in the U.S.A......Land of the Free, and i like the USA! But dont be delusional, Germany is much more advanced than the U.S.A..(I hope you know that)
Oh, dear a new proMerkel softcock German is here, WOW !.
So regarding to you it's okay if arab/afro gropes/rapes Deutsche ladies ::) ::) ::).
You must be 1 of those "Wilkomen Fake Refugees" fools ::)
OBW, I'm not American , but I love the U.S. !.
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Yeah, why dont you give the people free Health care?
Fake Arab refugee, with 3 wives & 20 kids love FREE Deutsche Health Care !.
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But dont be delusional, Germany is much more advanced than the U.S.A..(I hope you know that)
So, why don't you take back Konigsberg (Kaliningrad) from Russia & Danzing (Gdansk) from Poland if Germany is so advanced !?.
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Fake Arab refugee, with 3 wives & 20 kids love FREE Deutsche Health Care !.
There are some, but who cares? We are a big wealthy Country with free health care for everyone. Is there a Problem? Nope, almost the best healthcare worldwide for free.. but hey..impossible (can't be, the U.S.A. is the best..).
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Seriously i Would smoke this guy easy. long Arms and Legs? +6 feet tall? 6 feet? That is not that big! Thats maybe 80 kg in good shape...come to Germany for a good smack! I Know you do Martial Arts, but you are all talk and no Action. @ Pellius. Yeah Jiu Jitsu You cant even Box..and how old are you now? Yeah you are old..
Haha how am i all talk and no action? :D
I was telling his opponent , Escrima, who is a filippino thats probably around 5'5" that Pellius is way over 6 feet, that it would probably be a problem for him.
Trying to avoid embarassement for him.
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So, why don't you take back Konigsberg (Kaliningrad) from Russia & Danzing (Gdansk) from Poland if Germany is so advanced !?.
Danzig would be nice, Königsberg also. I don't know why we don't do it... Maybe we don't want to provoke the Next World War. (Could be the reason)
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There are some, but who cares? We are a big wealthy Country with free health care for everyone. Is there a Problem? Nope, almost the best healthcare worldwide for free.. but hey..impossible (can't be, the U.S.A. is the best..).
Don't BS youself , arabs fuck you & todays Germans have no balls to take any real action !.
Parkinson's disease is screwing that bitch Angela Merkel & nothing can save her from shaking :D
Big country is Russia,Canada,Australia,USA,........................
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Danzig would be nice, Königsberg also. I don't know why we don't do it... Maybe we don't want to provoke the Next World War. (Could be the reason)
Just another BS, today Germans have no balls (COWARDS) .................!.
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Just another BS, today Germans have no balls (COWARDS) .................!.
Most real Germans died in WWII and no, not all were Nazis either by choice or by force of a will other than their own. Over the ensuing decades those that lived so burdened themselves with liberal white guilt that they're nothing but cuckolds for the scum of the planet.
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I have never fought Pellius but you could see that those long arms and legs (he is 6 feet + as well) will give people trouble.
Combine that with his many years of martial arts experience and he is a problem.
If you can't take him down you're bound to get clipped, and if you manage to take him down, his main forté is Jiu Jitsu after all. A Problem.
I wouldn't go to Hawaii and challenge him unless Henda paid for the trip.
so what are you saying ? it´s like my Daddy is bigger than yours
All i see on this thread is that Pellius guy melting non stop.
I am bigger than you
I an more ripped than you..blah blah blah
only thing bigger is his massive elf ears ;D
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so what are you saying ? it´s like my Daddy is bigger than yours
All i see on this thread is that Pellius guy melting non stop.
I am bigger than you
I an more ripped than you..blah blah blah
only thing bigger is his massive elf ears ;D
Trying to save you from some embarassment is all (since his reach and height is so much bigger than your 5'6") so you don't go to Hawaii
It's not worth it, to travel from the Philippines to Hawaii just to settle some "internetbeef"
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Trying to save you from some embarassment is all (since his reach and height is so much bigger than your 5'6") so you don't go to Hawaii
It's not worth it, to travel from the Philippines to Hawaii just to settle some "internetbeef"
i do not go on a bodybuilding forum and threaten people who disagree with me
I am not 5´6"
regarding his reach..what if i chop his arms off?
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i do not go on a bodybuilding forum and threaten people who disagree with me
I am not 5´6"
regarding his reach..what if i chop his arms off?
Over an Internetbeef?
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Over an Internetbeef?
do you really think i care about a 60+ Guy with big ears on the internet?
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do you really think i care about a 60+ Guy with big ears on the internet?
That's what i'm asking.
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That's what i'm asking.
i have been laughing at him from the start. utter fool.
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i have been laughing at him from the start. utter fool.
So you never even planned to fight him then?
What's with all the challenges via PMs to him?
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How old is Pellius? 70?
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How old is Pellius? 70?
Thinking in his 50s, maybe close to 60?
Definitely not 70 with that shape
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Pipe cleaner arms. His forearms and upper arms are the same size, like 12" or less. He's a scrawny dude covered in veins. Calfs are big but that's just the Asian peasant genetics. Doesn't even look like he lifts.
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Thinking in his 50s, maybe close to 60?
Definitely not 70 with that shape
I thought he said he was 70 once but it must have been someone else.
He doesn't look it.
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I thought he said he was 70 once but it must have been someone else.
He doesn't look it.
Doesn't look 70, maybe close to it?
If he is 70, i am very impressed!
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Doesn't look 70, maybe close to it?
If he is 70, i am very impressed!
Not a day over 69 1/2.
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regarding his reach..what if i chop his arms off?
Ron, this is stupid comment !.Take action !.
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so what are you saying ? it´s like my Daddy is bigger than yours
All i see on this thread is that Pellius guy melting non stop.
I am bigger than you
I an more ripped than you..blah blah blah
only thing bigger is his massive elf ears ;D
LOL @ "melting nonstop". Nobody believes that. It's obvious I've touched a nerve and now you are having a nervous breakdown sending me threatening PMs.
You are the one who bragged about living a "spartan lifestyle" taking a dig at me eating at McDonald's. If you're so disciplined what are the results? People brag to me all the time at what they do and how disciplined they are but so what? What does it matter if you don't have anything to show for it. Chances are overwhelmingly huge that I am in much better shape and condition than you are. If i wasn't you would prove otherwise. You won't because you can't. Why are you afraid to post a pic?
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i do not go on a bodybuilding forum and threaten people who disagree with me
I am not 5´6"
regarding his reach..what if i chop his arms off?
You really are beyond lame. "What if I chop his arms off?" Oh brother. How about what if you chop off my legs? Or my head? What if you blast me with a series of three round bursts from an MP5? What point are you trying to make?
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i do not go on a bodybuilding forum and threaten people who disagree with me
I am not 5´6"
regarding his reach..what if i chop his arms off?
Show me where I threatened you? I've already showed where you claim that you are going to "fuck me up". When is that going to happen? I'm waiting.
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do you really think i care about a 60+ Guy with big ears on the internet?
Oh you care plenty. That's why you PM me. That's why you claim that you weren't going to continue but just couldn't help yourself because I've brutally butt hurt you and owned you into oblivion and have become a laughing stock on this board. Other than the cum guzzling cuck that nobody likes, Roast Beef, every one on this thread just mocks and laughs at you. You're a joke. I've exposed you. Now you are desperately looking for a way out without coming across like a real pussy. Too late, manong.
Pellius = Winning.
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i have been laughing at him from the start. utter fool.
We've all been laughing at you.
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Pipe cleaner arms. His forearms and upper arms are the same size, like 12" or less. He's a scrawny dude covered in veins. Calfs are big but that's just the Asian peasant genetics. Doesn't even look like he lifts.
LOL. The cum guzzling cuck that is PlainJane's bitch has returned. Why is it that the ones who would never post a pic are the biggest critics. It's because you know you would be laughed off this board -- again. I don't look like I work out. You claim you do so you must be in better shape than I am. That's the difference between me and guys like you and escrima. All talk. I back up my words.
Yup, never worked out in my life.
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do you really think i care about a 60+ Guy with big ears on the internet?
Who do you think would be the easiest fight on this prisonyard?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=665172.0;attach=1263554;image)
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Doesn't look 70, maybe close to it?
If he is 70, i am very impressed!
I look close to 70 years old? Jeeze, I wish you guys would post some pics of yourself. The perspective of people's looks is so skewed on this site. It's like you guys never leave this board and have forgotten how normal people look in real life. Fortunately, there are objective markers for age independent of one's skewed perspective. I defy you to find anyone that isn't named Stallone or Robby Robinson that looks anywhere near my condition? 95% of the people in my age group have a saggy pop belly and slooping atrophied shoulders. The vast majority are going bald, have a forehead lined with wrinkles, frown lines, crow's feet on the side of their eyes, bags under their eyes, deeply etched lines that go from the sides of the nose to the mouth (laugh lines/nasolabial folds), those lines on the corner of their lips down their chin that puppets have, Marionette lines.
I'm sixty years old. Compare me to the average sixty, fifty, forty year old.
Cal Ripken, 58 years old, retired professional baseball player nicknamed Iron man for his ability to play into his forties.
(https://media.spokesman.com/photos/2020/04/07/Ripken_Virus_Relief_Baseball.JPG.jpg)
Steve Buscemi, 58 years old, great character actor that most likely had some cosmetic work done as virtually all successful actors do.
(https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/steve-buscemi.jpg)
Dorian Yates, 56 years old when this pic was taken. Four years younger than me but note the prominate forehead wrinkles, crows feet, bags under his eyes, deeply etched prominate laugh lines.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_jN7neX0ej4/maxresdefault.jpg)
Michael Gallagher, 57 years old, radio talk show host.
(https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2019/07/25/radio-host-mike-gallagher-700x420.png)
Milos Sarcev, 55 years old. Thinning hair, forehead wrinkles, frown lines, prominate nasolabial folds. All normal for a man in his fifties.
(https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/milos-sarcev-August-2019-main.jpg)
Pellius, 60 years old. Now you guys post your age and your picture. Odds are my hairline alone puts me on top.
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I look close to 70 years old? Jeeze,...
Just kidding, Pellius.
You don't look anywhere near 70.
More like a superhero from the comics.
No homo.
(https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11112/111122518/4292889-3329016017-Flash.jpg)
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I look close to 70 years old? Jeeze, I wish you guys would post some pics of yourself. The perspective of people's looks is so skewed on this site. It's like you guys never leave this board and have forgotten how normal people look in real life. Fortunately, there are objective markers for age independent of one's skewed perspective. I defy you to find anyone that isn't named Stallone or Robby Robinson that looks anywhere near my condition? 95% of the people in my age group have a saggy pop belly and slooping atrophied shoulders. The vast majority are going bald, have a forehead lined with wrinkles, frown lines, crow's feet on the side of their eyes, bags under their eyes, deeply etched lines that go from the sides of the nose to the mouth (laugh lines/nasolabial folds), those lines on the corner of their lips down their chin that puppets have, Marionette lines.
I'm sixty years old. Compare me to the average sixty, fifty, forty year old.
Cal Ripken, 58 years old, retired professional baseball player nicknamed Iron man for his ability to play into his forties.
(https://media.spokesman.com/photos/2020/04/07/Ripken_Virus_Relief_Baseball.JPG.jpg)
Steve Buscemi, 58 years old, great character actor that most likely had some cosmetic work done as virtually all successful actors do.
(https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/steve-buscemi.jpg)
Dorian Yates, 56 years old when this pic was taken. Four years younger than me but note the prominate forehead wrinkles, crows feet, bags under his eyes, deeply etched prominate laugh lines.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_jN7neX0ej4/maxresdefault.jpg)
Michael Gallagher, 57 years old, radio talk show host.
(https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2019/07/25/radio-host-mike-gallagher-700x420.png)
Milos Sarcev, 55 years old. Thinning hair, forehead wrinkles, frown lines, prominate nasolabial folds. All normal for a man in his fifties.
(https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/milos-sarcev-August-2019-main.jpg)
Pellius, 60 years old. Now you guys post your age and your picture. Odds are my hairline alone puts me on top.
shame you have no brain under it
those men you make fun off..none make fools of themselves on a Bodybuilding forum like you do. you have no shame
i honestly feel sorry for you, a silly old fool :D
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shame you have no brain under it
those men you make fun off..none make fools of themselves on a Bodybuilding forum like you do. you have no shame
i honestly feel sorry for you, a silly old fool :D
Showing how someone looks as they age is making a fool of someone?
How did you get so dumb? Maybe coming from a third world shit hole you still haven't caught up with modern technology.
Why do you keep avoiding the question about why you are ashamed to post your pic?
And the only thing you feel is your boy friend's cock drilling your butt hole as you get on all fours like the little bitch that you are.
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I look close to 70 years old? Jeeze, I wish you guys would post some pics of yourself. The perspective of people's looks is so skewed on this site. It's like you guys never leave this board and have forgotten how normal people look in real life. Fortunately, there are objective markers for age independent of one's skewed perspective. I defy you to find anyone that isn't named Stallone or Robby Robinson that looks anywhere near my condition? 95% of the people in my age group have a saggy pop belly and slooping atrophied shoulders. The vast majority are going bald, have a forehead lined with wrinkles, frown lines, crow's feet on the side of their eyes, bags under their eyes, deeply etched lines that go from the sides of the nose to the mouth (laugh lines/nasolabial folds), those lines on the corner of their lips down their chin that puppets have, Marionette lines.
I'm sixty years old. Compare me to the average sixty, fifty, forty year old.
Cal Ripken, 58 years old, retired professional baseball player nicknamed Iron man for his ability to play into his forties.
(https://media.spokesman.com/photos/2020/04/07/Ripken_Virus_Relief_Baseball.JPG.jpg)
Steve Buscemi, 58 years old, great character actor that most likely had some cosmetic work done as virtually all successful actors do.
(https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/steve-buscemi.jpg)
Dorian Yates, 56 years old when this pic was taken. Four years younger than me but note the prominate forehead wrinkles, crows feet, bags under his eyes, deeply etched prominate laugh lines.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_jN7neX0ej4/maxresdefault.jpg)
Michael Gallagher, 57 years old, radio talk show host.
(https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2019/07/25/radio-host-mike-gallagher-700x420.png)
Milos Sarcev, 55 years old. Thinning hair, forehead wrinkles, frown lines, prominate nasolabial folds. All normal for a man in his fifties.
(https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/milos-sarcev-August-2019-main.jpg)
Pellius, 60 years old. Now you guys post your age and your picture. Odds are my hairline alone puts me on top.
How old are you in those two pics?
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How old are you in those two pics?
First one taken at 59 years old and the second taken about four months ago. I turned 60 last Feburary. How old are you and have you ever posted a pic.
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I look close to 70 years old? Jeeze, I wish you guys would post some pics of yourself. The perspective of people's looks is so skewed on this site. It's like you guys never leave this board and have forgotten how normal people look in real life. Fortunately, there are objective markers for age independent of one's skewed perspective. I defy you to find anyone that isn't named Stallone or Robby Robinson that looks anywhere near my condition? 95% of the people in my age group have a saggy pop belly and slooping atrophied shoulders. The vast majority are going bald, have a forehead lined with wrinkles, frown lines, crow's feet on the side of their eyes, bags under their eyes, deeply etched lines that go from the sides of the nose to the mouth (laugh lines/nasolabial folds), those lines on the corner of their lips down their chin that puppets have, Marionette lines.
I'm sixty years old. Compare me to the average sixty, fifty, forty year old.
I'm 50 and look like 70 :D
White hair on the sides, grey hairs up top and white beard
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I'm 50 and look like 70 :D
White hair on the sides, grey hairs up top and white beard
Are you Santa Claus 🎅
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First one taken at 59 years old and the second taken about four months ago. I turned 60 last Feburary. How old are you and have you ever posted a pic.
I’m almost 40 years old, 6’2 blonde, still have all my hair, hope it stays that way, grew up surfing on the coast. No, I haven’t posted a pic but I have never made fun of anyone’s physique on here or resorted in personal attacks to others either
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Are you Santa Claus 🎅
LOL no but due to stress and some tragedies etc, i aged quickly during a short period of time.
Certainly look much older than i am. Wrinkles of Peace etc
Pellius can be lucky and fortunate that age was kind to him! :D
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LOL no but due to stress and some tragedies etc, i aged quickly during a short period of time.
Certainly look much older than i am. Wrinkles of Peace etc
Pellius can be lucky and fortunate that age was kind to him! :D
Jk with you,I laughed
At way you described yourself.
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I’m almost 40 years old, 6’2 blonde, still have all my hair, hope it stays that way, grew up surfing on the coast. No, I haven’t posted a pic but I have never made fun of anyone’s physique on here or resorted in personal attacks to others either
Happy for you Bell Biv Bevo!
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Jk with you,I laughed
At way you described yourself.
I laughed too when you said Santa Claus! :D
Still nuts the Image of Santa
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Pellius Is a nice man who does charity work and was a beast once upon a time
Has great vascular development and very lean. Also a pure man and loyal to the core, an admirable trait
Really struggled with a homeless man but only because of age the bum was 20 years younger (so I’m
Told?? I Did not read that thread in full but I believe pellius was offended by the mans larger endowment )
He’s quite a frail man now...like my father. You shouldn’t be picking on easy targets escrima
If you want a fight I’ll fight you
Don’t be picking on my friend
I’m 6’5” 240lbs With a 20” neck right now And training ufc And studying count dante vids but back drinking
I’ll fight you anywhere but I’ll pay for your tickets here to make it easier
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Happy for you Bell Biv Bevo!
Same to you! Would love to get together with you, SF, and henda on boys night out :D
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Pellius Is a nice man who does charity work and was a beast once upon a time
Has great vascular development and very lean. Also a pure man and loyal to the core, an admirable trait
Really struggled with a homeless man but only because of age the bum was 20 years younger (so I’m
Told?? I Did not read that thread in full but I believe pellius was offended by the mans larger endowment )
He’s quite a frail man now...like my father. You shouldn’t be picking on easy targets escrima
If you want a fight I’ll fight you
Don’t be picking on my friend
I’m 6’5” 240lbs With a 20” neck right now And training ufc And studying count dante vids but back drinking
I’ll fight you anywhere but I’ll pay for your tickets here to make it easier
Would love to record the fight!
I want to see esfitness fight with you
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I’m almost 40 years old, 6’2 blonde, still have all my hair, hope it stays that way, grew up surfing on the coast. No, I haven’t posted a pic but I have never made fun of anyone’s physique on here or resorted in personal attacks to others either
This is a bbing board and of course we should give our opinions on people who make a living or compete in bb/physique. But when you get these anonymous gimmicks and cowards that always bust on ordinary folks trying to improve themselves that's a difference story. I don't mean the constructive criticism but guys like Roast Beef and Escrima who make these absurd claims. Roast Beef says that I don't look like I've ever worked out. Does anybody really think someone like Roast Beef or Escrima looks in good shape? If there was a rule here that you had to post a pic of yourself before you can go criticizing others this would be a much more civil board. If Roast Beef post a picture of himself, and we all could see what shape he is really in, he'd be nothing but complimentary. But more likely he would stay hidden behind a computer and keep his mouth shut which would be even better.
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LOL no but due to stress and some tragedies etc, i aged quickly during a short period of time.
Certainly look much older than i am. Wrinkles of Peace etc
Pellius can be lucky and fortunate that age was kind to him! :D
So considering you've seen many pics of me throughout the years what made you think I was close to 70 years old? That would make me contemparies with Prime and Basile.
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Pellius Is a nice man who does charity work and was a beast once upon a time
Has great vascular development and very lean. Also a pure man and loyal to the core, an admirable trait
Really struggled with a homeless man but only because of age the bum was 20 years younger (so I’m
Told?? I Did not read that thread in full but I believe pellius was offended by the mans larger endowment )
He’s quite a frail man now...like my father. You shouldn’t be picking on easy targets escrima
If you want a fight I’ll fight you
Don’t be picking on my friend
I’m 6’5” 240lbs With a 20” neck right now And training ufc And studying count dante vids but back drinking
I’ll fight you anywhere but I’ll pay for your tickets here to make it easier
Our work with the homeless, focusing on diabetics, is through the church and not a government program so that has been put on hold due to the Chinese virus.
I got a buy one get one for a dollar Quarter Pounder with cheese deal at McDonalds. A homeless guy asked me for one of my sandwiches. I don't like bums that bother decent people minding their own business so I told him no. He insisted that since I had two sandwiches I should give him one. He got all agitated and started approaching me stomping his feet on the ground. Then I pulled out my phone and called the cops. He left when he saw that. After a few minutes he came back and approached me and when he was about six or seven feet away reaches in his shorts and pulls out his junk holding it and just staring at me. That was it. Time to stand up for decency and not surrender to this low life.
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Pellius Is a nice man who does charity work and was a beast once upon a time
Has great vascular development and very lean. Also a pure man and loyal to the core, an admirable trait
Really struggled with a homeless man but only because of age the bum was 20 years younger (so I’m
Told?? I Did not read that thread in full but I believe pellius was offended by the mans larger endowment )
He’s quite a frail man now...like my father. You shouldn’t be picking on easy targets escrima
If you want a fight I’ll fight you
Don’t be picking on my friend
I’m 6’5” 240lbs With a 20” neck right now And training ufc And studying count dante vids but back drinking
I’ll fight you anywhere but I’ll pay for your tickets here to make it easier
seems like you were hitting the bottle last night
talking of frail old Men how ironic seeing as you threatened primemuscle(75 plus) on another thread
maybe you forgot after your 10th shot
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LOL. The cum guzzling cuck that is PlainJane's bitch has returned. Why is it that the ones who would never post a pic are the biggest critics. It's because you know you would be laughed off this board -- again. I don't look like I work out. You claim you do so you must be in better shape than I am. That's the difference between me and guys like you and escrima. All talk. I back up my words.
Yup, never worked out in my life.
and to think this was with massive amounts of gear...
you are now an old man who has no life on a bodybuilding forum
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Our work with the homeless, focusing on diabetics, is through the church and not a government program so that has been put on hold due to the Chinese virus.
I got a buy one get one for a dollar Quarter Pounder with cheese deal at McDonalds. A homeless guy asked me for one of my sandwiches. I don't like bums that bother decent people minding their own business so I told him no. He insisted that since I had two sandwiches I should give him one. He got all agitated and started approaching me stomping his feet on the ground. Then I pulled out my phone and called the cops. He left when he saw that. After a few minutes he came back and approached me and when he was about six or seven feet away reaches in his shorts and pulls out his junk holding it and just staring at me. That was it. Time to stand up for decency and not surrender to this low life.
don´t play the saint Pellius i know all about you
you boasted about beating a Hobo. you also call everyone who disagrees a punk & you will beat their ass
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and to think this was with massive amounts of gear...
you are now an old man who has no life on a bodybuilding forum
Ah, so first I'm a skinny gook and now when you see me I look like I'm on a massive amount of gear.
I have no life? I live in Hawaii a stone throw away from the ocean. You live in a State that is having it's biggest exodus in history.
You keep embarrassing yourself with every post you make.
Sure I am an old man but I look better than you do and I am in better shape than you have ever been in.
Why do you keep avoid the issue of posting your pic? Why are you afraid to show people what you look like? Irish Dave has posted many pics of himself and you can mouth off at him over the computer like you do to everybody but in real life you would shit in your pants if he was standing in front of you. I tower over a midget like you but Irish Dave is a giant compared to you and you don't want to mess with an Irishman. Those are a hot tempered lot and will take it the end.
Everyone here sees you for the coward and low life that you are.
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Ah, so first I'm a skinny gook and now when you see me I look like I'm on a massive amount of gear.
I have no life? I live in Hawaii a stone throw away from the ocean. You live in a State that is having it's biggest exodus in history.
You keep embarrassing yourself with every post you make.
Isn't he in Cebu city?
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Isn't he in Cebu city?
He's from Cebu. He lives in New York. He invited me to visit him.
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don´t play the saint Pellius i know all about you
you boasted about beating a Hobo. you also call everyone who disagrees a punk & you will beat their ass
Can you be anymore of a crying bitch? That's what happens when you always insist in being the bottom for your boyfriend.
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Ah, so first I'm a skinny gook and now when you see me I look like I'm on a massive amount of gear.
I have no life? I live in Hawaii a stone throw away from the ocean. You live in a State that is having it's biggest exodus in history.
You keep embarrassing yourself with every post you make.
Sure I am an old man but I look better than you do and I am in better shape than you have ever been in.
Why do you keep avoid the issue of posting your pic? Why are you afraid to show people what you look like? Irish Dave has posted many pics of himself and you can mouth off at him over the computer like you do to everybody but in real life you would shit in your pants if he was standing in front of you. I tower over a midget like you but Irish Dave is a giant compared to you and you don't want to mess with an Irishman. Those are a hot tempered lot and will take it the end.
Everyone here sees you for the coward and low life that you are.
This is actually very rich coming from a guy with your history
Hmmm....yes i remember now.
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He's from Cebu. He lives in New York. He invited me to visit him.
you said you would kick my ass
you said i was your little Bitch but i am over 18
you said you are more ripped & massive
you said you are a BJJ expert fighter
you are infact a sad old man living in an internet cyber made up world
also a very sick man. we know you Pellius
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you said you would kick my ass
you said i was your little Bitch but i am over 18
you said you are more ripped & massive
you said you are a BJJ expert fighter
you are infact a sad old man living in an internet cyber made up world
also a very sick man. we know you Pellius
Okay, escrima :)
I can very easily organise duel between YOU & Hawaiian in Muay Thai ring in Bangkok/Patong !.
Let me know if you are interested !.
This China Flu BS will stop.
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"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be—or to be indistinguishable from—self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
8)
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So will the fight be Boxing, Muay Thai or K1 rules?
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So will the fight be Boxing, Muay Thai or K1 rules?
No Rules
New york
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So will the fight be Boxing, Muay Thai or K1 rules?
Street style , only travel insurance is needed ;)
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you said you would kick my ass
you said i was your little Bitch but i am over 18
you said you are more ripped & massive
you said you are a BJJ expert fighter
you are infact a sad old man living in an internet cyber made up world
also a very sick man. we know you Pellius
Holy fuck! I've never heard anybody on this board cry like a little bitch as you are. Did I really hurt your feelings that much? I thought you were a bad ass stick fighter.
Show me where I said I would kick your ass? You PMed me threatening to "fuck me up". I'm still waiting, bitch.
You bust on me eating McDonalds and brag about your spartan lifestyle. Then why aren't you in shape? Even at your peak you have never in your life been in my walk-around condition. And when did I ever say I was massive? Because the truth makes you look like such an ass you have to just make up pure lies.
And, again, when did I ever say I was a BJJ expert? You can't back up anything you say. And you talk about being a man and about honor. I back up what I say. Post your pic, cock-sucker.
And who is this "we" as in "we know all about you, Pellius." There is no "we" just you and your gimmick Roast Beef. Both of you the board clowns.
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"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be—or to be indistinguishable from—self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
8)
I'm anonymous? LOL. All my pictures and info are out there. It is you, you cowardly little pussy, that talks shit while hiding behind a computer.
You're a clown and why nobody respects you on this board. An anonymous coward calling me anonymous when I picture is on this very thread. Jesus Fuck, you don't even know what a retard you are.
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Holy fuck! I've never heard anybody on this board cry like a little bitch as you are. Did I really hurt your feelings that much? I thought you were a bad ass stick fighter.
Show me where I said I would kick your ass? You PMed me threatening to "fuck me up". I'm still waiting, bitch.
You bust on me eating McDonalds and brag about your spartan lifestyle. Then why aren't you in shape? Even at your peak you have never in your life been in my walk-around condition. And when did I ever say I was massive? Because the truth makes you look like such an ass you have to just make up pure lies.
And, again, when did I ever say I was a BJJ expert? You can't back up anything you say. And you talk about being a man and about honor. I back up what I say. Post your pic, cock-sucker.
And who is this "we" as in "we know all about you, Pellius." There is no "we" just you and your gimmick Roast Beef. Both of you the board clowns.
I'm anonymous? LOL. All my pictures and info are out there. It is you, you cowardly little pussy, that talks shit while hiding behind a computer.
You're a clown and why nobody respects you on this board. An anonymous coward calling me anonymous when I picture is on this very thread. Jesus Fuck, you don't even know what a retard you are.
I think you call this a Meltdown on getbig?
pathetic old man with anger issues
and you have Elf ears !
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We all know that Pellius would crush Escrima if they ever fought.
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No Rules
New york
The Getbig Intercontinental Championship is on then!
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I think you call this a Meltdown on getbig?
pathetic old man with anger issues
and you have Elf ears !
LOL. Coming from a guy still sending me PMs.
Why do you avoid the question of posting your pics?
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We all know that Pellius would crush Escrima if they ever fought.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=580299.0;attach=1128745;image)
who the hell is that?
in the old days you could tell a bodybuilder from his Silhouette because of their distinct shape
Pellius has the ears, Arnold the chest, Sergio a V-taper