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Regardless of how it ends up I can't wait for Nov 4. The nation is divided, for whatever reason. As you know I am not a fan of Trump. I don't care much for Biden. But as an American, what this country has become is disheartening. Not one mind has been changed here in 5 years. Not one mind will be changed. 1000's of insults have been hurled and for what? If you are a Trump supporter you will be a Trump supporter in Feb. If you are a Trump hater you will be a Trump hater as well. As an American my hope is that we can find common ground again and heal some of this divide that has been created.
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Perhaps four years would be a better time frame. Five years ago I completely dismissed Trump as a candidate, here and elsewhere.
I recently attended a memorial and had to hear one speaker (a liberal) repeatedly bring up Trump. At a memorial – really?
We’ve got some healing to do, but we won’t get any help from our media. It’s up to us as individuals to arrive at some sort of Kumbaya.
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Regardless of how it ends up I can't wait for Nov 4. The nation is divided, for whatever reason. As you know I am not a fan of Trump. I don't care much for Biden. But as an American, what this country has become is disheartening. Not one mind has been changed here in 5 years. Not one mind will be changed. 1000's of insults have been hurled and for what? If you are a Trump supporter you will be a Trump supporter in Feb. If you are a Trump hater you will be a Trump hater as well. As an American my hope is that we can find common ground again and heal some of this divide that has been created.
Truth.
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It will not change in our lifetimes.
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It will not change in our lifetimes.
The fundamental problem is that leftists don’t like this country. If you want to fundamentally change everything about someone you probably weren’t into that person.
And Biden is a stiff who isn’t beating Trump.
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Liberals from Cali are moving to Idaho and will vote to turn Boise into Cali.
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The fundamental problem is that leftists don’t like this country. If you want to fundamentally change everything about someone you probably weren’t into that person.
And Biden is a stiff who isn’t beating Trump.
I know, they hate this country.
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Regardless of how it ends up I can't wait for Nov 4. The nation is divided, for whatever reason. As you know I am not a fan of Trump. I don't care much for Biden. But as an American, what this country has become is disheartening. Not one mind has been changed here in 5 years. Not one mind will be changed. 1000's of insults have been hurled and for what? If you are a Trump supporter you will be a Trump supporter in Feb. If you are a Trump hater you will be a Trump hater as well. As an American my hope is that we can find common ground again and heal some of this divide that has been created.
There is a part of me that thinks 4 more more years of Trump would be exhausting, even though I consider much of the social angst and unrest to be the self-induced - people working themselves into a frenzy, falling for false narratives, media manipulation, etc. There are filling personal voids in their lives by fixing on Trump. They would just shift the focus elsewhere afterwards, albeit likely something less exposed to everyone on a daily basis. Things would also calm down because the media would not be fanning the flames during a Biden presidency, giving the illusion that Biden himself deserves the credit, as opposed to how Trump gets zero credit for anything.
But the other part of me cannot stand what the Democrats have done over the last four years. TDS to the max, a flimsy/partisan impeachment, catering to the mob, playing identity politics, tearing up the SoU, inciting violence (see Aryanna Pressley tweet), the squad bullshit and hypocrisy, not denouncing riots, and being a party that has so many reprehensible folks. They became so consumed with being anti-Trump we now have another shit Pres/VP combo representing them in November.
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The fundamental problem is that leftists don’t like this country. If you want to fundamentally change everything about someone you probably weren’t into that person.
And Biden is a stiff who isn’t beating Trump.
Trumptards are the people who not only hate this country ...they also hate democracy
They literally hate everything this country stands for and want to turn the country into fascist cult for a dictator
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There is a part of me that thinks 4 more more years of Trump would be exhausting, even though I consider much of the social angst and unrest to be the self-induced - people working themselves into a frenzy, falling for false narratives, media manipulation, etc. There are filling personal voids in their lives by fixing on Trump. They would just shift the focus elsewhere afterwards, albeit likely something less exposed to everyone on a daily basis. Things would also calm down because the media would not be fanning the flames during a Biden presidency, giving the illusion that Biden himself deserves the credit, as opposed to how Trump gets zero credit for anything.
But the other part of me cannot stand what the Democrats have done over the last four years. TDS to the max, a flimsy/partisan impeachment, catering to the mob, playing identity politics, tearing up the SoU, inciting violence (see Aryanna Pressley tweet), the squad bullshit and hypocrisy, not denouncing riots, and being a party that has so many reprehensible folks. They became so consumed with being anti-Trump we now have another shit Pres/VP combo representing them in November.
Republicans have done all of this and MORE
Trump is a TRAITOR to this country
https://www.lawfareblog.com/collusion-reading-diary-what-did-senate-intelligence-committee-find
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Republicans have done all of this and MORE
Trump is a TRAITOR to this country
https://www.lawfareblog.com/collusion-reading-diary-what-did-senate-intelligence-committee-find
Still drinking the kool-aid?
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Still drinking the kool-aid?
It's funny that he posts links and such and expects anyone to follow them.
He's proven incapable of having a discussion, so he's lost the privelige of anyone really caring what he thinks.
But he's has been melting at a great frequency than usual, it seems, just by the sheer amount of threads he starts.
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It's funny that he posts links and such and expects anyone to follow them.
He's proven incapable of having a discussion, so he's lost the privelige of anyone really caring what he thinks.
But he's has been melting at a great frequency than usual, it seems, just by the sheer amount of threads he starts.
He suffers from a horrible bout of TDS.
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The fundamental problem is that leftists don’t like this country. If you want to fundamentally change everything about someone you probably weren’t into that person.
And Biden is a stiff who isn’t beating Trump.
No, I respectfully disagree and point out Americans saying the leftists or the conservatives are the problem. The country is made up with the complete spectrum from the far left to the far right. the majority reside close to the middle on either side. That is what in my opinion needs to be focused on regardless of what party happens to be living in the white house.
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It will not change in our lifetimes.
Im an optimist. It has changed for the worse in the last 10 years, it can change for the better in our lifetime. Maybe not mine, but I think it will
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I know, they hate this country.
That statement is part of the problem in my opinion
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Trumptards are the people who not only hate this country ...they also hate democracy
They literally hate everything this country stands for and want to turn the country into fascist cult for a dictator
perhaps, but the answer will never come from the Trump base, nor will it come from the AOC supporters. It has to come from the middle ground
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There is a part of me that thinks 4 more more years of Trump would be exhausting, even though I consider much of the social angst and unrest to be the self-induced - people working themselves into a frenzy, falling for false narratives, media manipulation, etc. There are filling personal voids in their lives by fixing on Trump. They would just shift the focus elsewhere afterwards, albeit likely something less exposed to everyone on a daily basis. Things would also calm down because the media would not be fanning the flames during a Biden presidency, giving the illusion that Biden himself deserves the credit, as opposed to how Trump gets zero credit for anything.
But the other part of me cannot stand what the Democrats have done over the last four years. TDS to the max, a flimsy/partisan impeachment, catering to the mob, playing identity politics, tearing up the SoU, inciting violence (see Aryanna Pressley tweet), the squad bullshit and hypocrisy, not denouncing riots, and being a party that has so many reprehensible folks. They became so consumed with being anti-Trump we now have another shit Pres/VP combo representing them in November.
I can sense a right leaning to your post, and thats fine. Would you at least agree that the focus on Trump is partly Trumps own doing? The almost daily controversial tweets, the "campaign rally" speeches focused on demonizing the democrats rather than speaking to us as American citizens? Would someone, anyone who doesn't crave the spotlight and can talk to us as a nation rather than a party be a move in the right direction?
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Perhaps four years would be a better time frame. Five years ago I completely dismissed Trump as a candidate, here and elsewhere.
I recently attended a memorial and had to hear one speaker (a liberal) repeatedly bring up Trump. At a memorial – really?
We’ve got some healing to do, but we won’t get any help from our media. It’s up to us as individuals to arrive at some sort of Kumbaya.
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I think you are right. but how does that happen?
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That statement is part of the problem in my opinion
It's the truth. The left hates every traditional institution in this country. They even hate it's founding.
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It's the truth. The left hates every traditional institution in this country. They even hate it's founding.
And they never provide any context. You would think that slavery was an invention of the United States when in reality it pre-dates written history and can be found in every culture. The US did more than any other country to eliminate this practice.
Where exactly were these woke places in 1619? China? The Middle East? Japan? South America? Practice of holding the United States to impossible standards and everyone else to no standards at all.
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And they never provide any context. You would think that slavery was an invention of the United States when in reality it pre-dates written history and can be found in every culture. The US did more than any other country to eliminate this practice.
Where exactly were these woke places in 1619? China? The Middle East? Japan? South America? Practice of holding the United States to impossible standards and everyone else to no standards at all.
The NBA players love them some China and Nike shoes which use child labor to produce. Lebron doesn't seem to have a problem with that kind of slavery.
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I can sense a right leaning to your post, and thats fine. Would you at least agree that the focus on Trump is partly Trumps own doing? The almost daily controversial tweets, the "campaign rally" speeches focused on demonizing the democrats rather than speaking to us as American citizens? Would someone, anyone who doesn't crave the spotlight and can talk to us as a nation rather than a party be a move in the right direction?
Always have been more right than left, mainly because national defense, strong military, lower taxes, legal immigration, and their fiscal policies make more sense to me. I still feel we need health and education reform, and need to do a better job letting our old people retire and enjoy themselves.
Of course Trump brings a ton of that on himself, I disagree with a lot and even cringe a bit at some of his tweets. But they were calling for impeachment day one, so I don't blame him so much for attacking them. But the Democrats really should have done an introspective after 2016, but they didn't, and now we have just as bad a choice that we did in 2016.
In addition, the left doesn't even know what it is now, with the progressive rift in the party. The impeachment was awful, and it's scary to think that with a few more Democratic senators in office, that a sitting President would have been removed with zero direct evidence against him, and only conjecture and heresay to back it up.
Off topic, and I've said it before, but a dishonest media and big tech's content manipulation are more of a concern to me than if a republican or democrat are in the white house.
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When has the USA not been divided, except for a few times in history at the beginning of certain wars? Having a common enemy unites people, for a little while.
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Regardless of how it ends up I can't wait for Nov 4. The nation is divided, for whatever reason. As you know I am not a fan of Trump. I don't care much for Biden. But as an American, what this country has become is disheartening. Not one mind has been changed here in 5 years. Not one mind will be changed. 1000's of insults have been hurled and for what? If you are a Trump supporter you will be a Trump supporter in Feb. If you are a Trump hater you will be a Trump hater as well. As an American my hope is that we can find common ground again and heal some of this divide that has been created.
You're confident that the presidential election will be nicely settled by Nov. 4? Could be the start of the shit (drama and division) really hitting the fan?
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Perhaps four years would be a better time frame. Five years ago I completely dismissed Trump as a candidate, here and elsewhere.
I recently attended a memorial and had to hear one speaker (a liberal) repeatedly bring up Trump. At a memorial – really?
We’ve got some healing to do, but we won’t get any help from our media. It’s up to us as individuals to arrive at some sort of Kumbaya.
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I think you are right. but how does that happen?
By being decent toward each other. Covey’s “Seek first to understand, then to be understood" should be the 12th commandment (after "thou shalt not shout.") ;D
I had prepared remarks for the memorial and spoke later. I started with a hesitant, “Four more years…make America great…oh, wait.” and made a pretend show of inverting my notes. Laughter ensued.
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You're confident that the presidential election will be nicely settled by Nov. 4? Could be the start of the shit (drama and division) really hitting the fan?
It will hit the fan regardless of who wins in November.
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That statement is part of the problem in my opinion
I agree.
I suspect we'll have some % who won't accept the final election result, regardless of who wins.
However, once all the votes are counted and results are certified, most people will accept it.
With a few exceptions, I don't think anyone wants total anarchy or a civil war that could destroy America.
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You're confident that the presidential election will be nicely settled by Nov. 4? Could be the start of the shit (drama and division) really hitting the fan?
I said Nov 4 as more of a symbol. I understand that it could take longer for the dust to settle but I dont think it will be a significant amount of time. My prediction is the expected drama will fizzle out.
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You're confident that the presidential election will be nicely settled by Nov. 4? Could be the start of the shit (drama and division) really hitting the fan?
For reference, consider that the 2000 election wasn't decided until December 12. Any drama or division for 2020 would be amplified by the MSM
to make it seem like it's the end of Democracy, even if it takes just a week after election day to settle on a result.
I think that Trump wins in a rout, and we'll get Biden's concession speech on election night (he'll be very tired). We'll see.
If it's not close, they can't cheat.
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For reference, consider that the 2000 election wasn't decided until December 12. Any drama or division for 2020 would be amplified by the MSM
to make it seem like it's the end of Democracy, even if it takes just a week after election day to settle on a result.
I think that Trump wins in a rout, and we'll get Biden's concession speech on election night (he'll be very tired). We'll see.
If it's not close, they can't cheat.
I hope you are right.
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Those of us familiar with horse racing have seen this race 1000 times. Biden is what’s known as cheap speed. He got out to a shaky lead and now that we’re heading to the top of the stretch he’s been collared by Trump. Do you really think Biden can fight off a charging Trump whose campaign is just starting to roll? I don’t.
What about you guys? How confident are you in Biden as a candidate coming down the stretch? I’m very confident in Trump.
Looks like the MSM is having serious doubts:
This is huge. A mainstream liberal media outlet throwing BLM and Biden under the bus.
The internal polls must be horrible. They’re already trying to cut their losses.
Riots: the violence is turning many away from supporting BLM and protests while Biden has no solution.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/31/riots-violence-erupting-turning-many-away-blm-and-protests-column/5675343002/
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It's the truth. The left hates every traditional institution in this country. They even hate it's founding.
This definitely appears the case - Yet no leftists supporters or for that matter Mayor’s or Governors
Let alone Top spot democrats have offered any sort of condemnation or come out against the
Rioters/ Antifa & BLM, There’s no Strong Leadership Voice.
Agnostic as it your thread why is this the case - Hell they even want rid of cops, & you support or
Think this Madness is they way forwards & Better than Republicans Law & order.
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I'm confident with Biden and feel he'll make Trump look bad in the 1st debate.
Trump won't prep, go in with lots of bravado and end up looking like a blow hard .
Uncle Joe has wobbled in the past, but looks to be on his "A" game now.
That's my feelings and it will interesting to see how it all goes down.
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This definitely appears the case - Yet no leftists supporters or for that matter Mayor’s or Governors
Let alone Top spot democrats have offered any sort of condemnation or come out against the
Rioters/ Antifa & BLM, There’s no Strong Leadership Voice.
Agnostic as it your thread why is this the case - Hell they even want rid of cops, & you support or
Think this Madness is they way forwards & Better than Republicans Law & order.
The Biden camp needs to come out even stronger against looting and violence.
Right now, that's a legit point against them.
However, Trump is underwater on his handling of Covid and it's not that much better now.
Plus, all the looting and violence is on his watch. Trump is the POTUS and he's trying to run against himself.
Righ now, he's the head coach of a team that's lost some big games.
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I agree.
I suspect we'll have some % who won't accept the final election result, regardless of who wins.
However, once all the votes are counted and results are certified, most people will accept it.
With a few exceptions, I don't think anyone wants total anarchy or a civil war that could destroy America.
What like some % who even now who can’t accept the last election result 🙄 There’s a Good Few on Here - There’s a whole party that’s haven’t accepted it, 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
So Antifa, BLM, & Many Many Leftists don’t want Anarchy or a civil war ??
And those that support them ??
Think you’re completely wrong on this.
Otherwise Explain what the fuck is going on with those groups & the many Democrats that support them.
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The Biden camp needs to come out even stronger against looting and violence.
Right now, that's a legit point against them.
However, Trump is underwater on his handling of Covid and it's not that much better now.
Plus, all the looting and violence is on his watch. Trump is the POTUS and he's trying to run against himself.
Righ now, he's the head coach of a team that's lost some big games.
You virtually avoided any kind of meaningful response- all the protests & Chaz places are in Democrat cities - The Mayors & Governor’s supported them & Didn't ~ Don't want Federal Help ? ?
Why is that ??
Why you trying to shift onus onto Donald & Republicans. You can’t accept the last result & cant accept what’s going on Right Now in Democrat run places.
Address those issues.
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You virtually avoided any kind of meaningful response- all the protests & Chaz places are in Democrat cities - The Mayors & Governor’s supported them & Didn't ~ Don't want Federal Help ? ?
Why is that ??
Why you trying to shift onus onto Donald & Republicans. You can’t accept the last result & cant accept what’s going on Right Now in Democrat run places.
Address those issues.
They had their entire convention to denounce all the violence but choose not to do so. Now that their polls are tanking they realize they have to switch course. Not going to work.
They’ve been trumpeting themselves about how great they would handle coronavirus. Why did they allow protests in these democratic cities in the first place if they were so concerned?
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I'm confident with Biden and feel he'll make Trump look bad in the 1st debate.
Trump won't prep, go in with lots of bravado and end up looking like a blow hard .
Uncle Joe has wobbled in the past, but looks to be on his "A" game now.
That's my feelings and it will interesting to see how it all goes down.
Well then why is Pelosi recommending that he not debate? Wouldn’t avoiding this debate where he would easily handle Trump be a negative for him?
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However, Trump is underwater on his handling of Covid and it's not that much better now.
What will Biden attack him on specifically in this context?
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You virtually avoided any kind of meaningful response- all the protests & Chaz places are in Democrat cities - The Mayors & Governor’s supported them & Didn't ~ Don't want Federal Help ? ?
Why is that ??
Why you trying to shift onus onto Donald & Republicans. You can’t accept the last result & cant accept what’s going on Right Now in Democrat run places.
Address those issues.
We had BLM and some radical groups marching in the street during Obama's time as President.
He even sent his AG ( Holder) to Ferguson , Missouri and they exonerated the cop ( Darren Wilson).
The Obama admin was not effective in stopping or preventing the street protests and looting, etc.
Under Trump it's gotten even worse. This is on HIS watch as POTUS and he's failed .
Even if Trump wins another term, these same cities will have the same mayors and outrage will be worse.
If he can't deal with the situation NOW, how will he deal with it going forward with the SAME people, the same cities ?
He won't!
On the other hand Biden "might" be able to deal with the leadership of these cities and convince them to "get tough" .
Right now Trump lacks the trust of many dem Mayors and citizens in those crazy , urban cities, now on fire nightly.
Plus, if our leaders don't put in policies to end the covid pandemic , things will get worse .
Trump's been a deer in the headlights when it comes to Covid.
He reminds me of some scared kid hiding under his blankets , hoping the monster will magically go away.
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We had BLM and some radical groups marching in the street during Obama's time as President.
He even sent his AG ( Holder) to Ferguson , Missouri and they exonerated the cop ( Darren Wilson).
The Obama admin was not effective in stopping or preventing the street protests and looting, etc.
Under Trump it's gotten even worse. This is on HIS watch as POTUS and he's failed .
Even if Trump wins another term, these same cities will have the same mayors and outrage will be worse.
If he can't deal with the situation NOW, how will he deal with it going forward with the SAME people, the same cities ?
He won't!
On the other hand Biden "might" be able to deal with the leadership of these cities and convince them to "get tough" .
Right now Trump lacks the trust of many dem Mayors and citizens in those crazy , urban cities, now on fire nightly.
Plus, if our leaders don't put in policies to end the covid pandemic , things will get worse .
Trump's been a deer in the headlights when it comes to Covid.
He reminds me of some scared kid hiding under his blankets , hoping the monster will magically go away.
Wrong & Wrong again.
I won’t waste time & effort repeating myself to you.
You are Very clearly in that group who can’t accept the result of the last election.
Look at your pathetic answers - Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump.
When you’re able to Listen & Learn with open ears & eyes you might just see what’s going on
& Be able to accept your lot lost.
It was Trumps Fault, Trumps Fault, Trumps Fault an on. 🙄
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What will Biden attack him on specifically in this context?
Bump
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Bump
He’s a clueless boob who has no idea what he’s doing. This is what the Democratic leader ship in New York was saying in early March:
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Wrong & Wrong again.
I won’t waste time & effort repeating myself to you.
You are Very clearly in that group who can’t accept the result of the last election.
Look at your pathetic answers - Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump.
When you’re able to Listen & Learn with open ears & eyes you might just see what’s going on
& Be able to accept your lot lost.
It was Trumps Fault, Trumps Fault, Trumps Fault an on. 🙄
1. You asked for a detailed answer on this, which I provided.
You don't agree , which is fine, but I provided a complete, thoughtful, serious answer.
2. Trump is the current POTUS, so it's normal to hold him responisble for the good and bad.
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1. You asked for a detailed answer on this, which I provided.
You don't agree , which is fine, but I provided a complete, thoughtful, serious answer.
2. Trump is the current POTUS, so it's normal to hold him responisble for the good and bad.
Howard how do you like expose of BOBO (aka Dr.Fake/Strawly) & Saggy Jay III ;D.
Now others, like Antifa terrorist & Patriots can visit them ;).
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Howard how do you like expose of BOBO (aka Dr.Fake/Strawly) & Saggy Jay III ;D.
Now others, like Antifa terrorist & Patriots can visit them ;).
1. Bobo? I have no idea what you're talking about, sorry ???
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This definitely appears the case - Yet no leftists supporters or for that matter Mayor’s or Governors
Let alone Top spot democrats have offered any sort of condemnation or come out against the
Rioters/ Antifa & BLM, There’s no Strong Leadership Voice.
Agnostic as it your thread why is this the case - Hell they even want rid of cops, & you support or
Think this Madness is they way forwards & Better than Republicans Law & order.
Your statement at its face value is not accurate. I've watched Biden on several channels come out against looting, rioting and saying they could be criminally charged. Biden is not in favor of getting rid of cops. No sane person is
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For reference, consider that the 2000 election wasn't decided until December 12. Any drama or division for 2020 would be amplified by the MSM
to make it seem like it's the end of Democracy, even if it takes just a week after election day to settle on a result.
I think that Trump wins in a rout, and we'll get Biden's concession speech on election night (he'll be very tired). We'll see.
If it's not close, they can't cheat.
Historically polls have been accurate. There are other sites that have a strong track record of predicting the presidential winners. Currently Biden is leading in almost every parameter for president. Having witnessed 2016 I am super sensitive to polls. The experts contend that historically polls can't be discounted and analyst are trying to factor in the Trump phenomenon. Part of that is done by having on line polling where a person wouldn't be embarrassed to say they are voting for trump to alleviate some of the 2016 bias.
Having said that, I FEEL, it will be a close race. Even with Biden ahead of Trump at a percentage ahead of Hillary at this point I am concerned. I can't predict the winner and keep any semblance of trying to be impartial to the facts. Those who can, good luck
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Historically polls have been accurate. There are other sites that have a strong track record of predicting the presidential winners. Currently Biden is leading in almost every parameter for president. Having witnessed 2016 I am super sensitive to polls. The experts contend that historically polls can't be discounted and analyst are trying to factor in the Trump phenomenon. Part of that is done by having on line polling where a person wouldn't be embarrassed to say they are voting for trump to alleviate some of the 2016 bias.
Having said that, I FEEL, it will be a close race. Even with Biden ahead of Trump at a percentage ahead of Hillary at this point I am concerned. I can't predict the winner and keep any semblance of trying to be impartial to the facts. Those who can, good luck
"Historically polls have been accurate." At what point in the race?
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"Historically polls have been accurate." At what point in the race?
People don’t seem to understand that it’s a Marathon not a sprint. You can point to a time during the Democratic primary season when Biden looked completely dead yet he’s the candidate.
How did Trump look in 2016 after the “Grab her by the snatch” tape?
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Trumptards are the people who not only hate this country ...they also hate democracy
They literally hate everything this country stands for and want to turn the country into fascist cult for a dictator
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/NRupwC0898OESGze8N/giphy.gif)
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And they never provide any context. You would think that slavery was an invention of the United States when in reality it pre-dates written history and can be found in every culture. The US did more than any other country to eliminate this practice.
Where exactly were these woke places in 1619? China? The Middle East? Japan? South America? Practice of holding the United States to impossible standards and everyone else to no standards at all.
Excellent point. The left has a very distorted understanding of history in general. The world was different in the past, get over it. Why keep obsessing about something that happened before your grand parents were born. And yet there know of history is so poor, for all the reasons you mentioned.
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What will Biden attack him on specifically in this context?
"its 15 cases now, it will soon be zero"
"Look at Biden! He loves to wear a mask, its like a security blanket or something" when his task force and every leading expert in the field says wearings masks is one of the best mitigating efforts we can employ just for starters
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"its 15 cases now, it will soon be zero"
"Look at Biden! He loves to wear a mask, its like a security blanket or something" when his task force and every leading expert in the field says wearings masks is one of the best mitigating efforts we can employ just for starters
So a couple things he said, but not what he did?
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"its 15 cases now, it will soon be zero"
"Look at Biden! He loves to wear a mask, its like a security blanket or something" when his task force and every leading expert in the field says wearings masks is one of the best mitigating efforts we can employ just for starters
Yeah, okay.
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So a couple things he said, but not what he did?
No, he himself refused to wear a mask most of the time, and made it clear it wasn't necessary. that is actions that led to ...... never mind