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I am curious as to how you cats think this will go down. I will absolutely admit it if form some reason the Trump does poorly. I don’t see that happening - I just hope that he doesn’t let himself get sucked into the total attack mode. If the Trump just stays witty and on topic - there is no way that Biden can avoid a gaffe or ten (ooops Mrs. Joe said we can’t use the word gaffe anymore)
Also - over / under on how many times Biden will start to say something and then say “nah I probably shouldn’t say that” - I can’t be the only one who has noticed this.
We could do an over / under on how many times Biden will “gaffe” - but since Jill said we can’t use that word I guess it’s “off the table”
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I am curious as to how you cats think this will go down. I will absolutely admit it if form some reason the Trump does poorly. I don’t see that happening - I just hope that he doesn’t let himself get sucked into the total attack mode. If the Trump just stays witty and on topic - there is no way that Biden can avoid a gaffe or ten (ooops Mrs. Joe said we can’t use the word gaffe anymore)
Also - over / under on how many times Biden will start to say something and then say “nah I probably shouldn’t say that” - I can’t be the only one who has noticed this.
We could do an over / under on how many times Biden will “gaffe” - but since Jill said we can’t use that word I guess it’s “off the table”
It doesn’t matter how badly Hairplugs Biden fucks up tonight, the MSM will declare him the debate winner.
I honestly hope that President Trump goes for the jugular and makes Biden either cry, or walk off the stage in the middle of the debate. I want to see “Orange Man Bad” absolutely crush the feeble old senile shitbag Biden and all the liberal hopes along with it.
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Walter are you insane??? If Biden cries that will make him more popular than EVER with the left!!
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They'll probably pump Biden up on stims to try and raise his cognitive function a bit.
Trump should be careful not to bully Joe too much... that would generate sympathy for Biden. All Trump has to do is stick to the issues, facts and stats.
I have my popcorn ready.
My prediction... Trump will wipe the floor with dementia Joe.
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I hope Trump doesn't hold back and just savages Biden over his dementia, his crooked son, his corruption... everything.
Biden is used to debating easy fluffers like Pete Buttplug, Amy Klobacker and others. Biden has never faced anyone like Trump.
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I honestly think that the fate of this election lies in how well either candidates do tonight.
Not even the best UFC fight over the last 4 years has been able to garner as much anticipation and excitement from me as compared to tonight's event.
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Either Biden will back out or Trump will make him leave during the debate by requesting Biden show he doesn't have an earpiece in.
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Each side will claim victory.
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I honestly think that the fate of this election lies in how well either candidates do tonight.
Not even the best UFC fight over the last 4 years has been able to garner as much anticipation and excitement from me as compared to tonight's event.
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Once again I find myself agreeing with you man. Unfortunately 95% of all media attention is anti-the Trump - so this will be huge.
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Glad I don't have cable TV.
Nothing more insane than modern day Politics, especially with "Sleepy Joe and his cult of retard followers" last people I want to see.
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Grab the popcorn and enjoy some reality tv. You’ll see a 74 year old argue with a 77 year old that he’s too old to be president. You’ll see how a lifelong politician deals with a maniac in a “debate”? The whole thing is a circus. It’s like knowing a car wreck is gonna happen, so ya grab your comfy lawn chair to get a good seat for the meat show.
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Team dementia now requesting breaks every 30 minutes - lol
More like 30 min diaper changes.
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It will be interesting to see how the debate will be setup. Will the candidates be in the same room or is Biden going to be remote from his basement? Will they be seated or standing?
Biden most likely will ramble, fail to answer questions directly, say "Here's the deal", speak in incomplete sentences, go off on tangents, challenge Trump to a fight behind the woodshed, etc.
Will Biden be on mental enhancement drugs like Bradley Cooper in the movie Limitless?
Good flick by the way.
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Love that movie.
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It was openly discussed and commented on during the Clinton / trump debates that Don was coked up big time. He has a rep for using party drugs in the 80’s & 90’s so there is little doubt he’ll be out of his mind on snow.
If I was Biden, I’d have Hillary and Obama in the audience along with Stormy Daniels. When we met at centre stage, I’d pull a $50 out of my pocket and ask donny if he needed to borrow a few bucks. He’d be so fucked up that he’d have no idea if he was coming or going. When they introduced me I’d say “ my name is Joe Biden and when I get elected, trump will be going to jail. The crowed would go ape shit.
Fuck the broke ass, orange idiot.
J
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It was openly discussed and commented on during the Clinton / trump debates that Don was coked up big time. He has a rep for using party drugs in the 80’s & 90’s so there is little doubt he’ll be out of his mind on snow.
If I was Biden, I’d have Hillary and Obama in the audience along with Stormy Daniels. When we met at centre stage, I’d pull a $50 out of my pocket and ask donny if he needed to borrow a few bucks. He’d be so fucked up that he’d have no idea if he was coming or going. When they introduced me I’d say “ my name is Joe Biden and when I get elected, trump will be going to jail. The crowed would go ape shit.
Fuck the broke ass, orange idiot.
J
Trump doesn't even drink or smoke.
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I got a feeling its going to be anti climatic....no talk about Trumps taxes or Bidens son for starters....just straight up questions from moderator Chris Wallace with no rebuttals.Its all going to be overly controlled so poor Joe doesn't get slaughtered.
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Trump is gonna ask Plugs about his corrupt son and Biden is gonna state that he will not answer any questions pertaining to his family...
He has to, there's no defending the corrupt acts they engaged in...
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Walter are you insane??? If Biden cries that will make him more popular than EVER with the left!!
MM, I’m not talking about crying like Old Yeller just died, I’m talking about whining, screaming, wailing, breathless hysterics like the under 30 liberal protest crowd type of crying.
President Donald Trump will completely emasculate the Democrat Party tonight and send it closer to extinction.
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Sleepy Hairplugs Joe is in for a beating unlike any he has ever known.
“Come on, man!”
Trumpster will just keep delivering the pain, WWE-style.
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Sleepy Hairplugs Joe is in for a beating unlike any he has ever known.
“Come on, man!”
Trumpster will just keep delivering the pain, WWE-style.
I think we are going to hear a lot of “we’ll meet and Barack” tonight.
I hope Chris Wallace stays out of it and lets President Donald Trump unleash 3-1/2 years of pent up hell on the senile old, and retarded young, fools of the Democrat Party
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Trump just needs to let Biden talk, give him as much time as he can, he will make a total twat of himself.
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Sleepy and Jill just released their 2019 taxes. Total income was $985,000. $195K in pension, yet they still took their $52,000 in SS benefits plus pension (seriously?)
So now we know what the first part of the debate will be based upon.
Regarding Trump's taxes, many people don't seem to understand the difference between "tax avoidance" and "tax evasion". First is legal and the second is criminal.
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It was openly discussed and commented on during the Clinton / trump debates that Don was coked up big time. He has a rep for using party drugs in the 80’s & 90’s so there is little doubt he’ll be out of his mind on snow.
If I was Biden, I’d have Hillary and Obama in the audience along with Stormy Daniels. When we met at centre stage, I’d pull a $50 out of my pocket and ask donny if he needed to borrow a few bucks. He’d be so fucked up that he’d have no idea if he was coming or going. When they introduced me I’d say “ my name is Joe Biden and when I get elected, trump will be going to jail. The crowed would go ape shit.
Fuck the broke ass, orange idiot.
J
Once again the Canadian marijuana dispensary shipping department worker speaks about things that he has NO CLUE ABOUT.
Trump doesn’t even drink alcohol - which is well known and confirmed by ANYONE who has spent time with him. Even his enemies admit this.
You think Trump did come during the debates in 2016??? Do you understand how cocaine works?? It doesn’t last an hour or even 30 minutes you fckn idiot.
You are the biggest pssy on this board. Of course you are anti-military - you’ve always been to chickensht to serve - of course you hate wealth as you’ve never had any success. Of course you relate to the down trodden - you ARE one.
The only chance that you can imagine for equality is to bring the successful down to your level.
Stay in your shithole life and let the rest of us who LOVE our lives run things.
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I have a hard time watching anything involving Biden. Too much cringe. Feel bad for that old confused man.
We all know Trump will demolish him tonight.
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Trump is gonna ask Plugs about his corrupt son and Biden is gonna state that he will not answer any questions pertaining to his family...
He has to, there's no defending the corrupt acts they engaged in...
“Plugs”
LOL
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"The United States is 243 years old. Joe Biden has been in politics for 47 of those years... That’s ~20% of the time... and you still can’t name an accomplishment of his other than sending our jobs to China and enriching his family BIGLY."
Don Jr. on Twitter :D
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Biden will be wearing his cheat ear piece. Trump wanted it inspected and Biden said no.
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Biden will be wearing his cheat ear piece. Trump wanted it inspected and Biden said no.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjGZum_U0AAFvIw?format=jpg&name=small)
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I honestly think that the fate of this election lies in how well either candidates do tonight.
Not even the best UFC fight over the last 4 years has been able to garner as much anticipation and excitement from me as compared to tonight's event.
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This will have Super Bowl-like ratings... maybe the highest ratings in American TV history
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It was openly discussed and commented on during the Clinton / trump debates that Don was coked up big time. He has a rep for using party drugs in the 80’s & 90’s so there is little doubt he’ll be out of his mind on snow.
If I was Biden, I’d have Hillary and Obama in the audience along with Stormy Daniels. When we met at centre stage, I’d pull a $50 out of my pocket and ask donny if he needed to borrow a few bucks. He’d be so fucked up that he’d have no idea if he was coming or going. When they introduced me I’d say “ my name is Joe Biden and when I get elected, trump will be going to jail. The crowed would go ape shit.
Fuck the broke ass, orange idiot.
J
Even amongst the gods your wit is legend...Like nigh on everything you type, I suspect you pulled that from your ass.
Or Straw Man's. Or Prime's. Or tbombz's. I could go on but there's no need as I know you will.
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It was openly discussed and commented on during the Clinton / trump debates that Don was coked up big time. He has a rep for using party drugs in the 80’s & 90’s so there is little doubt he’ll be out of his mind on snow.
If I was Biden, I’d have Hillary and Obama in the audience along with Stormy Daniels. When we met at centre stage, I’d pull a $50 out of my pocket and ask donny if he needed to borrow a few bucks. He’d be so fucked up that he’d have no idea if he was coming or going. When they introduced me I’d say “ my name is Joe Biden and when I get elected, trump will be going to jail. The crowed would go ape shit.
Fuck the broke ass, orange idiot.
J
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I’ve read several times that he’s hooked on adderall, so he’s basically a glorified meth head. That would explain his propensity to stay awake all night watching tv, and still function through the day.
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I’ve read several times that he’s hooked on adderall, so he’s basically a glorified meth head. That would explain his propensity to stay awake all night watching tv, and still function through the day.
Source?
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It was openly discussed and commented on during the Clinton / trump debates that Don was coked up big time. He has a rep for using party drugs in the 80’s & 90’s so there is little doubt he’ll be out of his mind on snow.
If I was Biden, I’d have Hillary and Obama in the audience along with Stormy Daniels. When we met at centre stage, I’d pull a $50 out of my pocket and ask donny if he needed to borrow a few bucks. He’d be so fucked up that he’d have no idea if he was coming or going. When they introduced me I’d say “ my name is Joe Biden and when I get elected, trump will be going to jail. The crowed would go ape shit.
Fuck the broke ass, orange idiot.
J
how can you believe shit like that?Anyone thats ever used coke can tell you a line lasts for 15-20 mins then you start crashing hard unless you have another.Also its very obvious that someone is on it in 95% of cases.This is a scenario where someone used coke for a short 10 minute interview.
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how can you believe shit like that?Anyone thats ever used coke can tell you a line lasts for 15-20 mins then you start crashing hard unless you have another.Also its very obvious that someone is on it in 95% of cases.This is a scenario where someone used coke for a short 10 minute interview.
Never seen that before. lol
Yeah it makes you feel like superman for 10-15 minutes and then you drop fast and start wanting more. However, i do know some professionals in the Architecture area that use it at work, just small bumps throughout the day. It's actually quite common.
I think Mr. Cage had just done a massive 6" rail and is majorly geeked out. I've seen people act that way on it many times, mainly when mixed with alcohol. Back in my 20's i partied with some crazy people, lot's of coke, weed, X, LSD, pain pills, Xanax and drinking. People will act very strangely on these drugs. The more you mix together the worse it gets. Take some X with a few long rails of coke, your going to be acting out of your damn mind. ;D
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I think in at least one point during the debate Biden is going to get super pissed and maybe even threaten Trump with fisticuffs
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And he will ask Biden if hes ever had plastic surgery
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I think in at least one point during the debate Biden is going to get super pissed and maybe even threaten Trump with fisticuffs
I expect that part of Biden‘s strategy will be to continually express anger and hostility toward Trump. This would alienate moderates and independents, but the Left will construe it as piling on the points. It would also be tiring for Biden to sustain it.
If Trump answers Wallace's questions and then directs his own questions to Biden, no nootropic cocktail can keep Biden on point.
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When does the action start? It is 1am here in England must be soon?
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When does the action start? It is 1am here in England must be soon?
Less than an hour away. Enjoy!
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Less than an hour away. Enjoy!
Thank you, hope you enjoy too, this should be good!
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This will have Super Bowl-like ratings... maybe the highest ratings in American TV history
no one watched tv bro
you 50 plus?
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Tuning in. Given Biden's history, I'll be surprised if he can do this without stutters and nonsensical wordsalads. The Dems surely have Plan B in the wings.
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They'll probably pump Biden up on stims to try and raise his cognitive function a bit.
Trump should be careful not to bully Joe too much... that would generate sympathy for Biden. All Trump has to do is stick to the issues, facts and stats.
I have my popcorn ready.
My prediction... Trump will wipe the floor with dementia Joe.
He won't do that....Trump will talk shit all through the debate. Considering that Biden has been in office for over 47 years, I would seriously doubt if he screws up too much. They are both old ass fucks so I'll be watching Windy City Rehab
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Half an hour until kickoff. One thing you have to give Trump credit for is that he has changed the whole political landscape. People who have never followed politics before are now following it closely. People who have never watched a Presidential debate are now tuning in.
This is great news for Conservatives. The more educated and aware people are the more it strengthens our side because we win on the arguments. It is much harder for Conservatives to get their message across because it requires a deeper explanation and clarification. Liberal speak in slogans: "Less guns, less shootings." The average person hears that and thinks that makes sense. And it's true. If there were no guns there would be no shootings. But Conservatives have to make the deeper more thought out argument why, though true, it is just not realistic and will never, ever happen. Even if you ban all guns. That's why Liberal dominate the MSM except for talk radio where you have time to debate and hash our arguments.
Let the hostilities commence. MAGA!
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Once again the Canadian marijuana dispensary shipping department worker speaks about things that he has NO CLUE ABOUT.
Trump doesn’t even drink alcohol - which is well known and confirmed by ANYONE who has spent time with him. Even his enemies admit this.
You think Trump did come during the debates in 2016??? Do you understand how cocaine works?? It doesn’t last an hour or even 30 minutes you fckn idiot.
You are the biggest pssy on this board. Of course you are anti-military - you’ve always been to chickensht to serve - of course you hate wealth as you’ve never had any success. Of course you relate to the down trodden - you ARE one.
The only chance that you can imagine for equality is to bring the successful down to your level.
Stay in your shithole life and let the rest of us who LOVE our lives run things.
Didn't I school you ( asshole) in a thread yesterday?
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I’ve read several times that he’s hooked on adderall, so he’s basically a glorified meth head. That would explain his propensity to stay awake all night watching tv, and still function through the day.
Nuff said . . .
J
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Nuff said . . .
J
he sniffs like that in every interview, conference and debate he has ever done, its just one of his mannerisms.If you were really a massive coke addict and wanted to try and hide it, youd put it up your ass like stevie nicks from Fleetwood Mac allegedly used to do, and even then youd be crashing hard 15 mins in to the 2 hour conferences Trump does on the regular.
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I don't have cable television so I cannot watch this. I will look to my brothers to let me know and explain it to me later.
Biden is deliriously, dangerously demented. He hates America and his VP buddy is a racist of kinda-sorta color who married a caucasional. Go figure.
Our Nation deserves and needs four more years of genuine America first leadership and that is what President Trump is all about. America and her citizens come first and foremost.
Biden and Harris will kowtow to the world just as Obama and Biden did for 8 years before. FTN.
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I don't have cable television so I cannot watch this. I will look to my brothers to let me know and explain it to me later.
Biden is deliriously, dangerously demented. He hates America and his VP buddy is a racist of kinda-sorta color who married a caucasional. Go figure.
Our Nation deserves and needs four more years of genuine America first leadership and that is what President Trump is all about. America and her citizens come first and foremost.
Biden and Harris will kowtow to the world just as Obama and Biden did for 8 years before. FTN.
You have to be more resourceful, you old dinosaur ;D
google how to watch the debate online and take your pick. Here's one link. Hurry, you have three minutes. You don't want to miss the "walk out."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/presidential-debate-trump-biden-time-channel-online-watch-2020-09-29/
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It's go time!
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I don't have cable television so I cannot watch this. I will look to my brothers to let me know and explain it to me later.
Biden is deliriously, dangerously demented. He hates America and his VP buddy is a racist of kinda-sorta color who married a caucasional. Go figure.
Our Nation deserves and needs four more years of genuine America first leadership and that is what President Trump is all about. America and her citizens come first and foremost.
Biden and Harris will kowtow to the world just as Obama and Biden did for 8 years before. FTN.
it's on da yotoobes granpa
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wtf... The moderator is totally biased and starts debating against Trump
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Trump is not coming off well. Always interrupting. The average person votes a lot on personality and likability. He seems overbearing and a bully. And he should have said it was his constitutional duty to appoint a judge. He wasn't asked about her qualifications. But Joe didn't answer the question either because he just focused on what he thinks will happen if she is nominated not whether the president has the right.
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wtf... The moderator is totally biased and starts debating against Trump
It's because Trump keeps interrupting and not ceding to the moderator.
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Shots fired! >:(
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Trump is not coming off well. Always interrupting. The average person votes a lot on personality and likability. He seems overbearing and a bully. And he should have said it was his constitutional duty to appoint a judge. He wasn't asked about her qualifications. But Joe didn't answer the question either because he just focused on what he thinks will happen if she is nominated not whether the president has the right.
This
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Jesus...this is just brutal
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;D. ;D
The Donald needs to calm down..
Or its not going to end well..
Biden is more controlled than what I expected from him...
;D. ;D
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Biden doing better than expected. Trump seems irritated and angry. Already he threw the first personal attack and name calling "You're not smart". That never works.
All Biden has to do is not lose. But it's 90 minutes so I'm expecting Biden to falter but that's my wishful thinking. I'm not liking this. Not liking this at all
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It's about even... So far..
Biden will fatigue
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Trump's first zinger 'Because no one will show up' in regards to Biden's campaigning and why hardly anyone there.
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It's about even... So far..
Biden will fatigue
Look at Trump's expression when Biden talks and then look at Biden when Trump talks. Picture the average person who have no idea who these two are. Who comes across more composed and who comes across as pissed off? We need to be objective.
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;D. ;D
The Donald needs to calm down..
Or its not going to end well..
Biden is more controlled than what I expected from him...
;D. ;D
He’s more controlled because he can’t think fast enough
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Pretty lame how they set it up with the biased joo mod. Basically 2 vs 1.
The corona debate they are trying to nail Trump on is lame. Biden didn't even have any solutions to the corona virus when it started. And his voting demographics where the worst superspreaders.
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He’s more controlled because he can’t think fast enough
Then maybe Trump should slow down.
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Biden been playing possum pretending to be a basket-case. Not what I expected or wanted so far.
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Biden been playing possum pretending to be a basket-case. Not what I expected or wanted so far.
Yeah this is very surprising. I was expecting Biden to crumble and loss track of his thought. Instead Trump is the one who is getting flustered.
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Then maybe Trump should slow down.
Trump has settled in more now, Biden not going as good....
Worst president ever comment wasn't good.
Trump landing some shots now.
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Pretty lame how they set it up with the biased joo mod. Basically 2 vs 1.
The corona debate they are trying to nail Trump on is lame. Biden didn't even have any solutions to the corona virus when it started. And his voting demographics where the worst superspreaders.
Trump talked shit about him and every other news organization. Fox News isn't giving him a break and it will be even worse when CNN and MSNBC host the next debates.
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The whole debate seems chaotic and Trump is going to be blamed. Calm down Trump. Biden is going to wear down.
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Biden is getting agitated
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Holy shit! Everyone yelling at the same time. This works against Trump because he keeps interrupting.
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Biden is getting agitated
I would too if someone is continuously interrupting and the moderator just slapped him silly with it. Trump is clearly not prepared...he is babbling and the Hunter Biden attack just didn't work.
At the end of the day, its not going to steer the boat one way or the other. People have already made up their minds as to who to vote for
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Boom! Brutal beating on the LE front.
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I would too if someone is continuously interrupting and the moderator just slapped him silly with it. Trump is clearly not prepared...he is babbling and the Hunter Biden attack just didn't work.
At the end of the day, its not going to steer the boat one way or the other. People have already made up their minds as to who to vote for
No, I still think a lot are still on the fence. They don't like Trump personally but don't think Biden is a strong choice. Trump has to come off as more likable. He's failing miserably.
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I’ve never seen such a brutal beat down in a debate since.....everyday with Strawman 😂😂😂😂
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No, I still think a lot are still on the fence. They don't like Trump personally but don't think Biden is a strong choice. Trump has to come off as more likable. He's failing miserably.
Trump Supporters are fiercely loyal.....everything that has come out of his sewer mouth hasn't swayed them. He was right about standing in Times Square and shoot someone.
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I’ve never seen such a brutal beat down in a debate since.....everyday with Strawman 😂😂😂😂
Yeah, unfortunately it is Biden doing the beating! This has not been good for Trump unfortunately.
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Yeah, unfortunately it is Biden doing the beating! This has not been good for Trump unfortunately.
What debate are you watching?
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I’ve never seen such a brutal beat down in a debate since.....everyday with Strawman 😂😂😂😂
Sorry Coach. Your bias is painfully obvious. I'm in a room full of Trump supporters and nobody is happy with his performance thus far. He is turning it into a circus. All Biden has to do is not lose. BTW, one of the person in my group is a Political Science professor and the lone staff member on his faculty that supports Trump.
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Yeah this is very surprising. I was expecting Biden to crumble and loss track of his thought. Instead Trump is the one who is getting flustered.
;D. ;D
I expected trump to be more controlled..
He is just rambling...
Biden is also stumbling but is more controlled than trump..
This going to be a tuff election for both..
At this point anybody can win..
;D. ;D
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Trump needs to CALM DOWN and simply lead Joe to the wall - which he will run right into!
NEVER SHOW YOUR EMOTION. Trump needs to treat this exactly as he would a negotiation and be smart.
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Yeah, unfortunately it is Biden doing the beating! This has not been good for Trump unfortunately.
Biden is not beating Trump in the arguments but is in presentation. The average person is going to like Biden better just on facial expressions alone. Trump keeps interrupting and can't restrain himself. It's constant meltdowns.
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Trump needs to CALM DOWN and simply lead Joe to the wall - which he will run right into!
NEVER SHOW YOUR EMOTION. Trump needs to treat this exactly as he would a negotiation and be smart.
Truth!
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He’s more controlled because he can’t think fast enough
;D. ;D
The average American excluding getbiggers might see that as a positive an vote for sleepy Joe...
;D. ;D
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Sorry Coach. Your bias is painfully obvious. I'm in a room full of Trump supporters and nobody is happy with his performance thus far. He is turning it into a circus. All Biden has to do is not lose. BTW, one of the person in my group is a Political Science professor and the lone staff member on his faculty that supports Trump.
I am with you Pellius - this is pissing me off!!! Trump needs to have the aura of Reagan! If he would just do this Biden would dig his own hole
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Well when Hairplugs Biden claimed Antifa was an idea and not a violent group, you really realize that a career politician will say anything to suck up for votes.
Chris Wallace needs to get better control, nothing is getting accomplished by having two old fools talk over top of each other.
Lots of build up and mostly just a let down.
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Trump Supporters are fiercely loyal.....everything that has come out of his sewer mouth hasn't swayed them. He was right about standing in Times Square and shoot someone.
Hate to agree with you on this.
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I’ve never seen such a brutal beat down in a debate since.....everyday with Strawman 😂😂😂😂
;D. ;D
coach we all know your the biggest Trump fanboy..
But this not trumps best outting..
Not a brutal beatdown...
Sleepy Joe also stumbling...
;D. ;D
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Trump nailed Biden when he (Trump) said that Biden had zero police support
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;D. ;D
Trump needs to think he is debating the Clintons..
Probably at his best..
Right now he is all over the place..
He needs to regroup..
And sleepy Joe needs to work on his stuttering...
;D. ;D
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Hard to defend the New Green Deal.
Hard to claim global warming started November 2016.
Both of these guys are coming off as full of shit.
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Yeah, unfortunately it is Biden doing the beating! This has not been good for Trump unfortunately.
Biden comes across as a beta male... looking to be rescued by the moderator
Trump is better at dealing with confrontation
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Biden comes across as a beta male... looking to be rescued by the moderator
Trump is better at dealing with confrontation
Glad you get that impression I hope the majority watching agree. I was expecting a Trump beat-down of Biden. A brutal, vicious, one sided obliteration. Unfortunately that not happened.
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Trump nailed Biden when he (Trump) said that Biden had zero police support
Yes, that volley did damage. That was his best moment so far.
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I think Pellius and Walter and any others I am missing - are proof of one thing. When those of us who are more conservative see fault on our side - we have no problem calling it out.
I am about 30 minutes behind in the debate so I am praying that Trump does something well.
I swear to God if I was there I would tell Trump to PLEASE SHUT THE FCK UP - and don’t let them see you rattled!!
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Glad you get that impression I hope the majority watching agree. I was expecting a Trump beat-down of Biden. A brutal, vicious, one sided obliteration. Unfortunately that not happened.
Again, because of low expectations, all Biden has to do was hold his own. Not lose.
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Again, because of low expectations, all Biden has to do was hold his own. Not lose.
I’ve never been so disappointed. I remember being a kid / teen and being in awe when I heard Reagan speak.
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;D. ;D
Oh boy... I foresee a civil war trying to get Trump out of office if he loses.. And if Biden wins.. I foresee kamala Harris becoming the first woman President in the next 4 years with Biden ceden power...
What a mess..
;D. ;D
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I think Pellius and Walter and any others I am missing - are proof of one thing. When those of us who are more conservative see fault on our side - we have no problem calling it out.
I am about 30 minutes behind in the debate so I am praying that Trump does something well.
I swear to God if I was there I would tell Trump to PLEASE SHIT THE FCK UP - and don’t let them see you rattled!!
I’m struggling to understand why a guy who claims he has all the answers to the economy, foreign policy, and racial equality, and has been in politics for 48 years, but has never applied any of these ideas previously.
I also believe the moderator position needs to be rethought. Instead of asking if they will pledge this or that, ask the specifics of all this crap they’re claiming.
The nation is rioting and burning and they’re wasting a half hour on climate change without talking about a global plan.
Get to the heart of the real issues. I’ve seen better arguments on Getbig.
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Jeeze Biden ended strong. Just said he will accept the results. Trump seem flustered and angry. He couldn't give a straight answer.
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Trump let his emotions get the best of him. Biden on the other hand never answered the questions he was asked. Total mess.
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Damn, glad I didn't have money on the outcome. Trump needs to look at this and improve for the next debate. Biden isn't quite as shot as we thought.
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Oh boy... I foresee a civil war trying to get Trump out of office if he loses.. And if Biden wins.. I foresee kamala Harris becoming the first woman President in the next 4 years with Biden ceden power...
What a mess..
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Therein lies the problem. The leftist media which reports the results is in cahoots with Biden. So they are incentivized to report that Biden has won, even if he has not. They also know that fraudulent voting will be overwhelming and that in many (or most) states, thousands of fraudulent votes will be counted in Biden’s favor. Why would Trump agree to accept the results put forth as a result of fraudulent voting and biased media reporting? The left is laying the groundwork to falsely and prematurely declare Biden the winner and then paint Trump as a sore loser looking to overturn an election. Watch and bump this in 2 months.
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Trump was off like a 2007 Cutler. Biden won this farce 70/30
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Jeeze Biden ended strong. Just said he will accept the results. Trump seem flustered and angry. He couldn't give a straight answer.
Me and you both big supporters of Trump but were disappointed by this debate. Fuck, I can't believe Biden came across better. I hate to say that but to me it is the truth, and I think you saw it the same way?
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I totally agree with all that you said above Walter...
Having said that - Trump might as well have just said “fck you pssy” and then went and punched him...
Trump needs to have someone tell him just how bad he fckd this up!!!
We need 4 more years and if Trump fks it up in the next debates and we end up with Kamala as POTUS we are royally ass fckd with a wire brush!
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Therein lies the problem. The leftist media which reports the results is in cahoots with Biden. So they are incentivized to report that Biden has won, even if he has not. They also know that fraudulent voting will be overwhelming and that in many (or most) states, thousands of fraudulent votes will be counted in Biden’s favor. Why would Trump agree to accept the results put forth as a result of fraudulent voting and biased media reporting? The left is laying the groundwork to falsely and prematurely declare Biden the winner and then paint Trump as a sore loser looking to overturn an election. Watch and bump this in 2 months.
Yeah, great point. You can see that one coming a mile away. Imagine the spoilt, screaming leftists if Trump loses supposedly but won't leave the White House.
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Damn, glad I didn't have money on the outcome. Trump needs to look at this and improve for the next debate. Biden isn't quite as shot as we thought.
The more Biden speaks the more likely he is to trip himself up.
Trump needs to do less interrupting next round.
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Biden told Trump to shut up, called him a clown and called him a racist.
Also I was in the military and never heard of a conspicuous service medal? Maybe they made up a medal for Biden's son.
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Good night good people... I have to slam a couple fingers of Stoli and then hit the rack so I can wake extra early at 5 and get some cardio and clear my head!
If all it meant was Biden was POTUS - he can’t get anything done anyway. But we ALL KNOW this is 100% about getting that headcase Harris into the Oval Office!
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The more Biden speaks the more likely he is to trip himself up.
Trump needs to do less interrupting next round.
Biden did lie a lot too, that's what got Trump pissed.
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Two jackasses who can't form a sentence.
Trump's petulance lost it for him. Biden's policies suck. How did Trump fail to hold his feet to the fire on anti-whiteness training, nail Biden down on stay-closed policy, etc?
The end was all Biden. Trump had to agree to honor the count. He's going to get beat over the head with not committing to the result.
It ain't over but this hurt The Donald.
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Jeeze Biden ended strong. Just said he will accept the results. Trump seem flustered and angry. He couldn't give a straight answer.
It’s easy for a candidate like Biden, who was in hiding for most of the pandemic, to throw accusations during a debate. Trump knows that Biden opposed the China shutdown in late January. Biden can laugh all he wants. But Biden’s carelessness would crippled this country... had he allowed China, during it’s COVID peak, to enter the USA
Biden is in massive denial
PS: why was Biden laughing so much tonight? We have riots, a pandemic, economic issues, uncertain future. What’s so funny Joe?
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Two jackasses who can't form a sentence.
Trump's petulance lost it for him. Biden's policies suck. How did Trump fail to hold his feet to the fire on anti-whiteness training, nail Biden down on stay-closed policy, etc?
The end was all Biden. Trump had to agree to honor the count. He's going to get beat over the head with not committing to the result.
It ain't over but this hurt The Donald.
Why should Trump agree to the count if there's already been proven fraud?
Bar was set so low for Biden, that why it seems like he did better than expected.
Trump has to let Biden talk more because he'll eventually sticks his foot in his mouth. Interrupting Joe all the time just allows him to reset.
Wallace is an obviously bias left-tard.
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Biden did lie a lot too, that's what got Trump pissed.
He needed to act like a grown up not like a kid having a meltdown
I saw this becoming a problem for him months ago. I blame all Trumps fan boys like Coach for feeding his ego.
I mention Trumps handling of recent events hurting his chances and you have a solid meltdown.
I did not mention his policies as I don't think that's what has hurt him.
It's been his demeanour, his pettiness, his ego and lack of political savvy. When he was the underdog all that worked in his favour, however as a leader he has failed to let go of his ego, and he has failed to galvanise people and see them through turbulent events. What he has managed to achieve however is a greater divide than ever and this has been solely down to his failure of leadership.
And before you decide to provide me with more red pill wisdom and have another meltdown, I will make you aware of my post history on here. I have said Biden and the left getting into power will likely be the worst thing that could happen for the western world right now, and if that happens we willl probably be in for a really shitty couple of decades. Buckle up!
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The more Biden speaks the more likely he is to trip himself up.
Trump needs to do less interrupting next round.
Agreed. Next debate he knows Biden ain't completely gone in the head and to play things differently. The constant interrupting was frustrating. Very surprised and disappointed that Biden didn't get destroyed and is probably gloating now.
Biden told Trump to shut up, called him a clown and called him a racist.
Also I was in the military and never heard of a conspicuous service medal? Maybe they made up a medal for Biden's son.
He made that medal up? I hope that comes out in the press and Trump pounces on it for round two.
Good night good people... I have to slam a couple fingers of Stoli and then hit the rack so I can wake extra early at 5 and get some cardio and clear my head!
If all it meant was Biden was POTUS - he can’t get anything done anyway. But we ALL KNOW this is 100% about getting that headcase Harris into the Oval Office!
Cheers, smash that cardio
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Cliffs ???
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I'm watching Hannity right now and that guy is so predictable and why he has fallen in credibility with me. Listen to guys like Karl Rove and Dana Perino and then compare it Hannity. That guy is such a fan boy that the only reason why I watch him is that I just keep the TV on after watching Hunter Carlson who is the only guy worth watching anymore. I'm waiting to see what he has to say.
Every time Hannity says, "Bought and paid for", or "Biden 330 0033" I just want to punch him.
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He needed to act like a grown up not like a kid having a meltdown
I saw this becoming a problem for him months ago. I blame all his fan boys like coach feeding Trumps ego.
Fuck bro, you sure you not writing Bidens talking points?! Seriously though, that was very insightful especially as you said that so long before the debate.
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Damn, glad I didn't have money on the outcome. Trump needs to look at this and improve for the next debate. Biden isn't quite as shot as we thought.
It's going to be way harder because if you thought Wallace was tough just wait until CNN and MSNBC gets ahold of him.
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Biden couldn’t answer if he would pack the courts. Said he would expand Obamacare, said on his first day he would repeal Trump tax cuts. Good God people, pay attention to the policies. Biden got hammered on a ton more. Who gives fuck about personalities. This was a policy beat down not to mention he couldn’t string a sentence together
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Biden is just the face for Harris policies.
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mainstream media saying trump came off as a bully, but that's because biden came off as weak
people only think biden came off well simply because he exceeded expectations when expectations were as low as it gets
funny how joe couldn't comment on law and order, "we don't have time" ::)
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The more Biden speaks the more likely he is to trip himself up.
Trump needs to do less interrupting next round.
This. Let Biden bury himself.
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He needed to act like a grown up not like a kid having a meltdown
I saw this becoming a problem for him months ago. I blame all Trumps fan boys like Coach for feeding his ego.
we saw nothing from trump's personality that we haven't seen a billion times before, now you want to act like it's a problem?\\
that's the reason people like him, he comes off as real and not some slimeball fake politician
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It's going to be way harder because if you thought Wallace was tough just wait until CNN and MSNBC gets ahold of him.
Good point, hadn't thought about that. Hope Trump doesn't constantly butt heads all night.....again.
Biden couldn’t answer if he would pack the courts. Said he would expand Obamacare, said on his first day he would repeal Trump tax cuts. Good God people, pay attention to the policies. Biden got hammered on a ton more. Who gives fuck about personalities
People that vote care. Listen, I am with you I want Trump to win. But we owe it to each other to be honest and look at things dispassionately. No way you can say Trump did better than you hoped he would?
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It’s easy for a candidate like Biden, who was in hiding for most of the pandemic, to throw accusations during a debate. Trump knows that Biden opposed the China shutdown in late January. Biden can laugh all he wants. But Biden’s carelessness would crippled this country... had he allowed China, during it’s COVID peak, to enter the USA
Biden is in massive denial
PS: why was Biden laughing so much tonight? We have riots, a pandemic, economic issues, uncertain future. What’s so funny Joe?
Turns out that it was good strategy. Biden's leading in the polls and whether you believe it or not he's leading. So lay low and lower expectations and come across as the calm stable one. The average smuck that doesn't follow the issues are going on personalities and impressions. You see Biden looking relatively cool and calm. Trump always frowning, red faced, and constantly interrupting and talking over the moderator isn't going to come off well.
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we saw nothing from trump's personality that we haven't seen a billion times before, now you want to act like it's a problem?\\
that's the reason people like him, he comes off as real and not some slimeball fake politician
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He doesn't need to win the votes of people who already like him. He needs to win the votes of people who are looking for any reason not to vote for Biden.
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Nobody won the debate. A ton of petty personal attacks. Biden was more likable. Trump had better content while Biden said nothing at all. Biden didn't wilt while Trump tried to dominate him. In the end I don't have a great confidence in Biden but Trump sure didn't help his cause.
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He doesn't need to win the votes of people who already like him. He needs to win the votes of people who are looking for any reason not to vote for Biden.
all they have to do is look at the destruction blacks and antifa are causing in democrat run cities
joe not commenting on that said more than enough... "we don't have time for that"
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Trump really helped Biden through the debate buy interrupting, Biden trips himself up when he's allowed to speak as he starts to ramble and lose his chain of thought, the constant interruptions helped him hold his line and look more composed. Bit of an own goal.
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Biden couldn’t answer if he would pack the courts. Said he would expand Obamacare, said on his first day he would repeal Trump tax cuts. Good God people, pay attention to the policies. Biden got hammered on a ton more. Who gives fuck about personalities. This was a policy beat down not to mention he couldn’t string a sentence together
A huge majority care about personalities even if you don't. You are just one vote. Ask any anti-Trumper why they don't like Trump. They won't mention a single policy just his personality.
In a perfect world only policies and actual accomplishments should matter, but most people don't really follow politics closely and follows those things. They just go by overall impressions which is control by the MSM. Wait until tomorrow. It's all going to be about how Trump kept interrupting Biden and talking over the moderator and turning the whole thing into a circus. This will reinforce the impression left on those who watched it and it will be considered typical Trump by those who didn't.
Trump supporters will still be Trump supporters but I don't think he got a single new fan for those on the fence.
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"I've done more in 47 months than you've done in 47 years"
/debate
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all they have to do is look at the destruction blacks and antifa are causing in democrat run cities
joe not commenting on that said more than enough... "we don't have time for that"
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But everybody knews that before this debate.
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So.....has Biden been in rehab then? Strange campaign to have less exposure and hope Trump's negative press works.
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Good point, hadn't thought about that. Hope Trump doesn't constantly butt heads all night.....again.
People that vote care. Listen, I am with you I want Trump to win. But we owe it to each other to be honest and look at things dispassionately. No way you can say Trump did better than you hoped he would?
Not at all, he definitely could have done better. Was he holding back? Was it because Wallace kept interrupting Trump and letting Biden speak more? You knew Biden was in trouble when he was taking personal shots at Trump by calling him names. Not exactly scoring points there
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"I've done more in 47 months than you've done in 47 years"
/debate
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all they have to do is look at the destruction blacks and antifa are causing in democrat run cities
joe not commenting on that said more than enough... "we don't have time for that"
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Not everyone is good at connecting the dots or even cares. A lot of people will just watch debates like this and vote on personality/who they feel more comfortable with.
One of the main reasons Hilary lost. A lot of American voters just aren't comfortable with a woman in charge.
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Cliffs ???
Trump failed to hammer points that were his to easily win, opting instead to interrupt Biden constantly and engage in personal attacks. He seemed unprepared.
Biden misspoke frequently but managed to get his rehearsed, camera addressing points across. Viewers would have noticed how crappy his policies are and how he can't string a sentence together if Trump hadn't been so busy making an ass of himself.
Biden didn't win it. Trump lost it.
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Not everyone is good at connecting the dots or even cares. A lot of people will just watch debates like this and vote on personality/who they feel more comfortable with.
One of the main reasons Hilary lost. A lot of Americans just aren't comfortable with a woman in charge.
well that should help trump then, he came off as lively and energetic
joe came off as a tired old man that was up past his bedtime and timid in comparison, which goes back to what i said trump seemed like a bully because joe seemed weak
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Biden didn't win it. Trump lost it.
So the media will play it up like Biden slaughtered Trump when we all know it was Trumps debate to lose. He (Trump) just managed to not keep his mouth shut?
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Trump beat Trump....he broke the rules of the debate repeatedly over and over again and thought because it was Fox News moderating that he could get away with it...WRONG!!!
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well that should help trump then, he came off as lively and energetic
joe came off as a tired old man that was up past his bedtime and timid in comparison, which goes back to what i said trump seemed like a bully because joe seemed weak
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Lmao. Any other set of circumstances I'd say you were trolling.
This debate in no way shape or form helped Trump.
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Lmao. Any other set of circumstances I'd say you were trolling.
This debate in no way shape or form helped Trump.
if his personality rubbed you the wrong way today then you haven't been paying attention to him for the last 30+ years
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if his personality rubbed you the wrong way today then you haven't been paying attention to him for the last 30+ years
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I find Trumps personality highly entertaining. I'm simply offering political commentary. Tonight was not a good night for Trumps re-election campaign. I'm sorry if that upsets you.
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Not everyone is good at connecting the dots or even cares. A lot of people will just watch debates like this and vote on personality/who they feel more comfortable with.
One of the main reasons Hilary lost. A lot of American voters just aren't comfortable with a woman in charge.
It wasn't that, Trump didn't have a political record to criticize....just his businesses which for the most part was just discarded. Now he has a political record and he can't do that anymore.
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I listened to audio of it. Saw a picture of Biden....where are his eyes at?
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I find Trumps personality highly entertaining. I'm simply offering political commentary. Tonight was not a good night for Trumps re-election campaign. I'm sorry if that upsets you.
ok i'm "upset" because i counter your points lol
were you the guy saying trump looked like a rapist when he followed hilary on stage during those debates?
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It wasn't that, Trump didn't have a political record to criticize....just his businesses which for the most part was just discarded. Now he has a political record and he can't do that anymore.
Good point, the shoe was on the other foot this time. Separate issue but I wonder if Biden was on something tonight? I got the impression it was starting to wear off towards the end.
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It wasn't that, Trump didn't have a political record to criticize....just his businesses which for the most part was just discarded. Now he has a political record and he can't do that anymore.
Yeah, you're right. That was probably more important. But I don't think Trump wins 4 years ago if he ran against a man.
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Good point, the shoe was on the other foot this time. Separate issue but I wonder if Biden was on something tonight? I got the impression it was starting to wear off towards the end.
They are in their 70's...of course they are both on something...blood pressure pills, medication, etc Biden was just getting tired of being interuppted repeatedly and I can't blame him
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Yeah, you're right. That was probably more important. But I don't think Trump wins 4 years ago if he ran against a man.
Hillary would have likely won if Comey hadn't announced that investigation 3 days before the election....something that he should have known better to do. Comey practically steered that win towards Trump
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we saw nothing from trump's personality that we haven't seen a billion times before, now you want to act like it's a problem?\\
that's the reason people like him, he comes off as real and not some slimeball fake politician
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Yes, this is the argument that they are making at Fox. That this will energize his base. You don't need to energize his base. Virtually everybody that is voting for Trump is enthusiastic about their choice at a level never before experienced. Even with Reagan. They can't wait to cast their vote for him. Trump didn't lose a single supporter with his performance. But it's the fence sitters that we want. And I don't know if he convinced anybody that's still vacillating.
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They are in their 70's...of course they are both on something...blood pressure pills, medication, etc Biden was just getting tired of being interuppted repeatedly and I can't blame him
You know what I mean Vince. Something extra to spice him up a bit, bring life to his weary bones. He was not the mental wreck Trump had expected. Not saying they injected him with 96% pure cocaine but who knows what they use in the top political circles?
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Hillary would have likely won if Comey hadn't announced that investigation 3 days before the election....something that he should have known better to do. Comey practically steered that win towards Trump
maybe she would've won if she stopped talking about which bathroom a dude in a dress could use
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I'm disappointed in trump he was not on his game tonight, that said Biden didn't win either imo...
Biden was weak and didn't have anything real to say just like the dems as a whole.
had trump been more relaxed and allowed joe to speak it would have gone better as trump came off overly agreesive and insecure at times of his presidency. Joe countered trump with some lies that would have stuck for some feeble minded viewers.
But trump did get joe a few times too. I think most people have made up their minds anyway tbh.
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ok i'm "upset" because i counter your points lol
were you the guy saying trump looked like a rapist when he followed hilary on stage during those debates?
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You counter my points by claiming tonight helped Trump. Take a moment and let that sink in. Seriously
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"ANTlFA IS AN IDEA, NOT AN ORGANIZATION". The people who had their businesses looted, burned etc will remember that statement.
Vince do you support Biden because you're not brining up anything Trump did well. I thought he did well with the transition of power question and law and order.
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Trump beat Trump....he broke the rules of the debate repeatedly over and over again and thought because it was Fox News moderating that he could get away with it...WRONG!!!
Damn Vince! Stop making sense.
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Yes, this is the argument that they are making at Fox. That this will energize his base. You don't need to energize his base. Virtually everybody that is voting for Trump is enthusiastic about their choice at a level never before experienced. Even with Reagan. They can't wait to cast their vote for him. Trump didn't lose a single supporter with his performance. But it's the fence sitters that we want. And I don't know if he convinced anybody that's still vacillating.
Agree on this last point, trump wasn't scoring many new votes with this performance.
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Trump failed to hammer points that were his to easily win, opting instead to interrupt Biden constantly and engage in personal attacks. He seemed unprepared.
Biden misspoke frequently but managed to get his rehearsed, camera addressing points across. Viewers would have noticed how crappy his policies are and how he can't string a sentence together if Trump hadn't been so busy making an ass of himself.
Biden didn't win it. Trump lost it.
Which is why he won. Expectations were so low that all Biden had to do was not lose.
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Yes, this is the argument that they are making at Fox. That this will energize his base. You don't need to energize his base. Virtually everybody that is voting for Trump is enthusiastic about their choice at a level never before experienced. Even with Reagan. They can't wait to cast their vote for him. Trump didn't lose a single supporter with his performance. But it's the fence sitters that we want. And I don't know if he convinced anybody that's still vacillating.
this is 2020
i don't know how anybody could possibly still be using debates to make their decision other than some old man that takes pride in not adapting to new technology, and those guys typically lean republican
anybody still "sitting on the fence" probably never votes and doesn't care
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Not everyone is good at connecting the dots or even cares. A lot of people will just watch debates like this and vote on personality/who they feel more comfortable with.
One of the main reasons Hilary lost. A lot of American voters just aren't comfortable with a woman in charge.
This.
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i got the feeling Trump figured there would only be one debate (Dems would pullout) so he purposefully railroaded this one to shut down the Democratic sound bites. He neutralised Biden pretty damn well.
If you look at it without bias, it is painfully clear Biden was unable to actively debate. If you removed Trump talking over the top it would have been clearer that Biden was talking nonsense.
I saw it as a horrid outcome for Biden. Trump had good answers. I wasn't a fan of his interruptions but i get why he did it.
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You counter my points by claiming tonight helped Trump. Take a moment and let that sink in. Seriously
i said nothing hurt him, trump today was the trump that he has always been
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Here's the deal.......God, I hate it when he says that.
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Not at all, he definitely could have done better. Was he holding back? Was it because Wallace kept interrupting Trump and letting Biden speak more? You knew Biden was in trouble when he was taking personal shots at Trump by calling him names. Not exactly scoring points there
Come on, Coach. It was Trump interrupting Wallace. Wallace tried to honor the two minute time limit but Trump kept talking over him. Watch it again and count the number of times Trump kept talking over Wallace and ignoring the rules. Take note of who actually got more speaking time.
We want to win and you have to put personal feelings and bias aside.
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Here's the deal.......God, I hate it when he says that.
Searching for an answer....all those ticks are to allow time to think.
Trump never follows the rules in politics or debates...no surprise on that.
These supposed "undecided" voters....I would argue they represent the least in number ever in an election thanks to the hard left.
You can't decide if you want to wear a mask for years and shut everything down? You can't decide whether it's okay to loot and riot and defund the cops? Seriously?
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Even Telemundo (Leftist) had the debate 66% Trump 34% Biden
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i said nothing hurt him, trump today was the trump that he has always been
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Read through the thread. You have guys like Vince, Pellius, Harman and myself, all looking at this debate from different leanings and from completely different parts of the World and we are all saying very similar things about how the debate went down.
I think all 4 of us all would rather see Trump win the elections, but it's pretty much unanimous. Tonight was a bad night for Trump. If it makes it feel better it was a bad night for Biden too, just worse for Trump.
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Even Telemundo (Leftist) had the debate 66% Trump 34% Biden
Look at betting markets if you want unbiased "polling". The betting markets favoured Biden tonight.
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Searching for an answer....all those ticks are to allow time to think.
Trump never follows the rules in politics or debates...no surprise on that.
These supposed "undecided" voters....I would argue they represent the least in number ever in an election thanks to the hard left.
You can't decide if you want to wear a mask for years and shut everything down? You can't decide whether it's okay to loot and riot and defund the cops? Seriously?
I think it was 240 I used to explain this to and now we have Trump who has been under attack his whole presidency. I was not surprised at him continuing to attack, interrupt etc. But I still think some good points he made are being overlooked based on style points. Oh well this place has turned into another twitter type forum.
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Read through the thread. You have guys like Vince, Pellius, Harman and myself, all looking at this debate from different leanings and from completely different parts of the World and we are all saying very similar things about how the debate went down.
I think all 4 of us all would rather see Trump win the elections, but it's pretty much unanimous. Tonight was a bad night for Trump. If it makes it feel better it was a bad night for Biden too, just worse for Trump.
but you are still going to vote trump right?
that's my point when i said it didn't hurt him, debates are for entertainment in 2020 they don't change votes
the popular opinion in 2012 was romney beat obama in the first debate, that didn't change too many minds
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but you are still going to vote trump right?
that's my point when i said it didn't hurt him, debates are for entertainment in 2020 they don't change votes
the popular opinion in 2012 was romney beat obama in the first debate, that didn't change too many minds
A good point.
The debate doesn't change the eventual outcome.
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but you are still going to vote trump right?
that's my point when i said it didn't hurt him, debates are for entertainment in 2020 they don't change votes
the popular opinion in 2012 was romney beat obama in the first debate, that didn't change too many minds
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I'd rather Trump mellows out a bit and potentially wins over some undecided and reluctant Biden voters during these debates.
He can get back to giving us entertainment when he has secured another 4 more years.
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Here's the deal.......God, I hate it when he says that.
I couldn't stand the "get everyone together" bit
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A huge majority care about personalities even if you don't. You are just one vote. Ask any anti-Trumper why they don't like Trump. They won't mention a single policy just his personality.
In a perfect world only policies and actual accomplishments should matter, but most people don't really follow politics closely and follows those things. They just go by overall impressions which is control by the MSM. Wait until tomorrow. It's all going to be about how Trump kept interrupting Biden and talking over the moderator and turning the whole thing into a circus. This will reinforce the impression left on those who watched it and it will be considered typical Trump by those who didn't.
Trump supporters will still be Trump supporters but I don't think he got a single new fan for those on the fence.
;D. ;D
Post of the day..
Well said..
He needs new votes..
Not the typical Trump / Maga fan base...
;D. ;D
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Lovely display of grease soaked shit. Just ugly.
No more please.
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VERDICT: President Trump WINS ‼️
CSPAN: ✅ Trump (53% Trump; 29% Biden)
Telemundo: ✅ Trump (66% Trump; 34% Biden)
CNN: ✅ Trump (3 votes Trump; 1 vote Biden of decided voters) https://api.parler.com/l/6kQse https://api.parler.com/l/EDMq4
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https://share.par.pw/post/087df75a87dd426295add94973b5d556
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Did Joe at least answer questions and appear OK?
Didnt watch, but if he didnt totally embarrass and piss himself, in Libs mind, thats a "knocked it out of the park" win for Dementia-Joe. ::)
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Biden couldn’t answer if he would pack the courts. Said he would expand Obamacare, said on his first day he would repeal Trump tax cuts. Good God people, pay attention to the policies. Biden got hammered on a ton more. Who gives fuck about personalities. This was a policy beat down not to mention he couldn’t string a sentence together
I disagree.
Trump let Biden make absurd claim after absurd claim and barely called him on any of it.
Biden claimed his version of the NGD would create millions of good paying jobs. How? What type of jobs? Who is going to be trained to work these jobs?
Biden claimed the trade deals Trump negotiated were terrible, Trump didn’t refute it.
War in the Middle East? Nothing.
Peace in the Middle East? Nothing.
Defund the police, support of Antifa, support of BLM? Nothing.
Jesus Christ....Biden claimed two times that if Trump wasn’t out golfing and was more available, there would be less COVID deaths. So the guy who has been hiding in his basement for 6 months just called the President a “no show”.
Trump needed prep and it showed. Everything Biden claimed could have easily been rebutted if Trump took the time to have responses ready. When Biden said he never said defund the police, call him out with the exact date and location of when he did it. FFS the guy called US troops dumb bastards and Trump was more focused on Hunter getting kicked out of the military for drugs.
Biden claimed at least 8–10 times that things Trump brought up we debunked, and Trump only called him on it once. He should have beat Biden over the head with the public safety and law enforcement support 3-4 times, but only did it once.
Like I said earlier, it was a poor performance by both.
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Two jackasses who can't form a sentence.
;D
Yard barking retards of piss.
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Like I said earlier, it was a poor performance by both.
Indeed, and the bar was pretty low.
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VERDICT: President Trump WINS ‼️
CSPAN: ✅ Trump (53% Trump; 29% Biden)
Telemundo: ✅ Trump (66% Trump; 34% Biden)
CNN: ✅ Trump (3 votes Trump; 1 vote Biden of decided voters) https://api.parler.com/l/6kQse https://api.parler.com/l/EDMq4
Poor Coach falling for fake news on social media
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/29/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-debate-poll/index.html
Biden 60% Trump 28% Both did equally well 5% Neither 6% No opinion 1%
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-first-presidential-debate-2020-09-29/
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It's a good thing Biden was too frightened to go off script. An actual opponent would have spanked Trump for his atrocious behavior in front of a national audience.
He's going to have that chambered next time around. Trump best watch it. "You will respect this debate and the voters of this country. You will shut your mouth, sir, and you will remain silent while I am speaking." That'd be the election right there. It's all anyone would talk about.
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Trump getting destroyed by hair plugs Biden. How embarrassing. Hair plugs Biden made Trump his bitch.
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No but he could have if he wasn't asleep at the switch. Could have dickslapped him on national tv.
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How do you have a debate with time restraints?? This 2 minutes to answer questions is bullshit. How the fuck do you answer a question in 2 minutes, then you are not able to rebuttal? This is the most important election in recent history and you have time restraints? Should have 3 hour blocks for each debate let them actually debate.
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Trump talked shit about him and every other news organization. Fox News isn't giving him a break and it will be even worse when CNN and MSNBC host the next debates.
It's going to be way harder because if you thought Wallace was tough just wait until CNN and MSNBC gets ahold of him.
Yes, then it will actually be Biden and the moderators against Trump. Trump used that card tonight against a fair (IMO) moderator. He can fairly use that card again, but it might come across as trite, perhaps desperate.
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How do you have a debate with time restraints?? This 2 minutes to answer questions is bullshit. How the fuck do you answer a question in 2 minutes, then you are not able to rebuttal? This is the most important election in recent history and you have time restraints? Should have 3 hour blocks for each debate let them actually debate.
Agreed. Of course nobody really wants a substantive debate, do they? They want focus-group tested soundbites and vague platitudes instead of in-depth discussion of policy specifics.
Anyways, my conclusion:
Trump: same old, nothing new and nothing substantive. Hard for him to play anything other than the arrogant douchebag. He hurt himself more than Biden did or could have with whatever small percentage of the electorate hasn’t made up its mind. Typically Presidential in that most Presidents bomb their first 2nd term debate. Miscalculated by attacking Biden’s competence and fitness so much, lowering the bar so much that to have Biden show up would exceed expectations.
Biden: same old, nothing new and nothing substantive. He’s probably a decent person in real life, but he chuckles at inappropriate times, gets angry at inappropriate times and just seems a little off. His “shut up” and “shush” comments probably didn’t hurt him too much but feel like the elderly guy from the bar, who talks a big game but needs help climbing on a stool. Benefited from the low bar set for him by Trump as well as his opponent’s complete inability to control his emotional and suppress his infantile behavior.
United States: America is fucked. It’s probably best to go get some lube and start slathering it on, because regardless of who wins, she’s getting pounded.
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A good point.
The debate doesn't change the eventual outcome.
I don't think this is an ordinary election. The debates don't change the minds of who they support but it's the undecided that makes the difference in such a close race. There are still enough undecided out there and they are torn between the "blah" feeling they have with Biden and the personal dislike they have for Trump. They don't like either of the choices and in the end they will go for they feel is the safer choice. A hot head does not come across as a safe choice.
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I don't think this is an ordinary election. The debates don't change the minds of who they support but it's the undecided that makes the difference in such a close race. There are still enough undecided out there and they are torn between the "blah" feeling they have with Biden and the personal dislike they have for Trump. They don't like either of the choices and in the end they will go for they feel is the safer choice. A hot head does not come across as a safe choice.
Agreed.
I’ve said it before, it’s sad that our choices are between Trump and Biden. Maybe Kanye West deserves a chance. :-X
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Poor Coach falling for fake news on social media
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/29/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-debate-poll/index.html
Biden 60% Trump 28% Both did equally well 5% Neither 6% No opinion
If that is true then it means Americans don't understand that in a debate you have to answer the questions. Also a party cannot refuse to answer.
It was a shit debate no doubt but Biden came off overwhelmed, unprepared, scripted.
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VERDICT: President Trump WINS ‼️
CSPAN: ✅ Trump (53% Trump; 29% Biden)
Telemundo: ✅ Trump (66% Trump; 34% Biden)
CNN: ✅ Trump (3 votes Trump; 1 vote Biden of decided voters) https://api.parler.com/l/6kQse https://api.parler.com/l/EDMq4
Where did you get these statistics. CSPAN is still conducting their poll
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1311134050644615168
The Telemundo poll is correct.
As far as CNN, what kind of link is that? Why not go directly to the CNN website where their poll showed 60% said Biden won.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-debate-poll/index.html
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If that is true then it means Americans don't understand that in a debate you have to answer the questions. Also a party cannot refuse to answer.
It was a shit debate no doubt but Biden came off overwhelmed, unprepared, scripted.
I don’t know that we can really opine on Biden, short of saying that he didn’t come across as a complete imbecile which, based on Trump’s incessant attacks on his competence, was a win.
We wanted a debate and instead we got a farting contest. Does it really matter whose farts were wetter?
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It's a good thing Biden was too frightened to go off script. An actual opponent would have spanked Trump for his atrocious behavior in front of a national audience.
He's going to have that chambered next time around. Trump best watch it. "You will respect this debate and the voters of this country. You will shut your mouth, sir, and you will remain silent while I am speaking." That'd be the election right there. It's all anyone would talk about.
Holy crap! Delete that post right now. If Biden said that it would have been lights out for Trump and he could just cruise the rest of the night.
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Holy crap! Delete that post right now. If Biden said that it would have been lights out for Trump and he could just cruise the rest of the night.
Biden had every chance to unzip his fly but thinks on his feet worse than a Student Council candidate.
He'll have something like that ready for next time tho, after he practices it in the bathroom mirror a few hundred times.
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I don’t know that we can really opine on Biden, short of saying that he didn’t come across as a complete imbecile which, based on Trump’s incessant attacks on his competence, was a win.
We wanted a debate and instead we got a farting contest. Does it really matter whose farts were wetter?
For your president, yes.
When a candidate enters a debate and flatly refuses to answer questions (as in verbally refuses), that should be a massive disqualification. Biden was given many passes which is insane. He cannot be trusted.
It seems utterly backwards to me that because a candidate was expected to be incompetent, proved.to be incompetent that somehow he wins........ fuck me do you give last place podium prizes?
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trumps had bad luck with the covid bs
libtards are taking advantage of it like they could have done a better job stopping the spread of a bug in a massive land mass like america.
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trumps had bad luck with the covid bs
libtards are taking advantage of it like they could have done a better job stopping the spread of a bug in a massive land mass like america.
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VERDICT: President Trump WINS ‼️
CSPAN: ✅ Trump (53% Trump; 29% Biden)
Telemundo: ✅ Trump (66% Trump; 34% Biden)
CNN: ✅ Trump (3 votes Trump; 1 vote Biden of decided voters) https://api.parler.com/l/6kQse https://api.parler.com/l/EDMq4
:D
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but China looks suspicious with the whole China disease stuff
An alpha american president might have caused the chinks to get PTSD from Hiroshima and Nagasaki
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stand back.... but stand by. ;) ;) ;)
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The debate was awful.
Both candidates had opportunities to hit home runs, but they whiffed.
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The debate was awful.
Both candidates had opportunities to hit home runs, but they whiffed.
Pretty much. Trump hit a couple doubles, but that's it. He interrupted Biden way too much. All Biden did was lie and repeat the same things over and over.
If you think the 1st debate was a shit-show, what happens in November is going to be 100x that.
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Love how he weasels out of that one, slippery Joe doing OK when it comes to normal scumbag politics.
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Pretty much. Trump hit a couple doubles, but that's it. He interrupted Biden way too much. All Biden did was lie and repeat the same things over and over.
If you think the 1st debate was a shit-show, what happens in November is going to be 100x that.
When Wallace brought up the "very fine people", all Trump had to do was say "Chris, that comment was directed at the people on the statue debate, and I specifically condemned racists afterwards. We need to end this lie".......instead he just said "read the whole transcript".
He could have countered Biden on law enforcement saying "you had a whole convention, and didn't mention the violence happening in our country once, and only spoke on it when the polls shifted".
Easy layups like that.
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When Wallace brought up the "very fine people", all Trump had to do was say "Chris, that comment was directed at the people on the statue debate, and I specifically condemned racists afterwards. We need to end this lie".......instead he just said "read the whole transcript".
He could have countered Biden on law enforcement saying "you had a whole convention, and didn't mention the violence happening in our country once, and only spoke on it when the polls shifted".
Easy layups like that.
So many missed opportunities. Biden brought up Putin. I would have brought up Uranium One and Crimea being annexed under the Obama/Biden Admin. Biden Brought up fake stories like the loser sucker story and the bounty story but denied a senate report about his son receiving money. Trump needed to hammer him on those.
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When Wallace brought up the "very fine people", all Trump had to do was say "Chris, that comment was directed at the people on the statue debate, and I specifically condemned racists afterwards. We need to end this lie".......instead he just said "read the whole transcript".
He could have countered Biden on law enforcement saying "you had a whole convention, and didn't mention the violence happening in our country once, and only spoke on it when the polls shifted".
Easy layups like that.
good points, two senile old codgers going at it. kind of like the dinero stallone movie grudge match.
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The debate was awful.
Both candidates had opportunities to hit home runs, but they whiffed.
This. The moderator lost control of the debate right from the start. He should have told both men to shut up and stop interrupting each other.
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Trump for a narrow win. Biden came across as weak, looked very pale, not sharp mentally, failed to back law & order, lacked substance on issues, came off as ignorant on issues, was very negative about country, a weak beta male. Trump was himself, pulled no punches, landed more punches, typical alpha male Trump. Strong alpha vs. weak beta.
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Biden looked like he has aged 10 years in 6 months. He spoke very slowly, had no energy, had a weak tired look in his face, no more threats to fist fight Trump, no more push up challenges. Very sad and disappointing. I expected more from Biden.
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Biden looked like his facial muscles no longer work. Like he had a stroke and it's been hidden from the public.
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If that is true then it means Americans don't understand that in a debate you have to answer the questions. Also a party cannot refuse to answer.
It was a shit debate no doubt but Biden came off overwhelmed, unprepared, scripted.
Hard for Biden to answer a question when Trump wouldn't shut the fuck up. I absolutely loved when Biden told him to Shut up and called him a Clown. Trump had no response. Although Biden looks like he's 30 minutes from retiring, he started off slow but then caught up and called Trump's bluff.
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Trump for a narrow win. Biden came across as weak, looked very pale, not sharp mentally, failed to back law & order, lacked substance on issues, came off as ignorant on issues, was very negative about country, a weak beta male. Trump was himself, pulled no punches, landed more punches, typical alpha male Trump. Strong alpha vs. weak beta.
I spoke last night with one of my younger brothers and he said pretty much exactly what you did. My family on my mother's side is liberal. My mom not only broke with their religion by becoming Catholic (while honoring both sides of the coin of her faith) but she also became very Conservative and all her children and grandchildren have followed suit.
America for Americans.
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VERDICT: President Trump WINS ‼️
CSPAN: ✅ Trump (53% Trump; 29% Biden)
Telemundo: ✅ Trump (66% Trump; 34% Biden)
CNN: ✅ Trump (3 votes Trump; 1 vote Biden of decided voters) https://api.parler.com/l/6kQse https://api.parler.com/l/EDMq4
Coach, you've obviously never watched any of Telemundo shows...every show they have is a bunch of shouting and yelling. Besides, its a Spanish channel...not an American one
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This. The moderator lost control of the debate right from the start. He should have told both men to shut up and stop interrupting each other.
Yeah, Wallace was awful on multiple fronts, from catering to Trump "you'll like this next one", from actually debating Trump, to ignoring BLM violence, to losing control.
Huge fail.
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trumps had bad luck with the covid bs
libtards are taking advantage of it like they could have done a better job stopping the spread of a bug in a massive land mass like america.
Trump won on the China flu last night, showed Biden would shut it down and keep it shut down. Game over
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What the Democraps and Biden seek is a variation of "Harrison Bergeron" by Kurt Vonnegut. At least on the surface it appears so and I understand that this supposition is a work in progress. But still, they would make us all the same by hook or by crook. They of course would be above us and that by design.
Fuck That Noise.
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So many missed opportunities. Biden brought up Putin. I would have brought up Uranium One and Crimea being annexed under the Obama/Biden Admin. Biden Brought up fake stories like the loser sucker story and the bounty story but denied a senate report about his son receiving money. Trump needed to hammer him on those.
Trump and Military Service: A 100 Year Family History (June 6, 2016)
Frederick Trump (1869-1918) m. 1902; Age (1898) 29
Fred Trump (1905-1999) m. 1936 c 1937, 1938; Age (1940) 35
Donald Trump (6/14/1046-present) m. 1977; Age (1964) 18
Military Service: Frederick (None), Fred (None), Donald (None)
We have just celebrated Memorial Day for 2016, so military service to our country is freshly relevant.* In honoring America’s war dead on Memorial Day, we also honor the service of recent veterans and our family members who served to ensure freedom and liberty for all of us. Sort of a family investment in America. Trump has continued to make support for veteran’s a prime topic in the political debate.
Grandfather Frederick, though an immigrant from Germany, was an American citizen in 1898. There was no draft imposed for the Spanish American War, but we have some guidance from the Civil War draft and World War I draft standards to judge his eligibility for service, if not a strict obligation. In 1898 he was 29 years old, single, unmarried, with no dependents, not engaged in any critical war related occupation, and with no religious objections. Thus, he was a prime candidate for service, or induction had there been a draft.
In the spring of 1898 he moved to Canada (until 1901), when he returned briefly to Germany and married in 1902, and then returned to NY. When he attempted to return to Germany on a permanent basis again in 1904, he was expelled from the country because of an official finding that he had evaded his military service obligation (active to age 35) when he originally left the country in 1885. He did not serve in the military in either country. He had no legal military service obligation in the US, but was found to be in violation of his mandatory German 3-year military service duty.
Father Fred was born in 1905. At the time of World War II and the imposition of a draft in 1940, at age 35 he was married and had 2 small children. He was subject to the draft. He was not engaged in any occupation subject to service exemption, such as war related production, public health and safety jobs, or agricultural employment. In truth, even with the expansive induction criteria in 1942, he still would have been lower on the priority list of men to be drafted because of his marriage and 3 dependent children. By 1943 he would have aged out of the high risk draft pool. He was subject to the draft in World War II, but was never called to serve.
In 1964 Donald turned 18 and had to register. He was unmarried, with no dependents, and not engaged in any employment which carried occupational exemptions (war related work, health and safety occupations, farm work). He was prime draft material during the years from 1964-1972. He had typical college student deferments from 1964-1968, but they expired on graduation. He was then classified as 1-A, then 1-Y, and finally 4-F. His high lottery number (.350) was for 1970. So, from June1968 until January 1970 (18 months) he was at high risk to be drafted. He obtained a medical deferment (1-Y) for a minor condition (except in wartime), which was later converted to a permanently disqualifying illness in 1971.
There is another special feature in Donald’s draft history. He graduated high school from the New York Military Academy in 1964, and while a cadet there was an officer in an official established junior R.O.T.C. command. As such, he would have received special considerations had he volunteered for military service (choice of military specialty, officer training school). He declined to take advantage.
For three generations, Trump’s paternal line has not offered or performed any military service for America, voluntary or through the draft. His father and grandfather played by the rules in America, but Donald bent them to advantage.
The Trump men were all eligible for military service to America. Millions of their fellow Americans volunteered or were drafted into service for their country during wartime. The Trumps all chose not to contribute in the most personal way one can to defend America’s freedom of speech, and to preserve the bounties of our economic and political system. They didn’t think the discounted value of their American citizenship, and the bounties our country provides, were worth enough to merit Trump military service.
What they did is not illegal, but it is not admirable or generous. Not even once in 100 years (1885-1980). Through five major military conflicts: Spanish American, World War I, World War II, the Korean War, and Viet Nam (which were contested for 30 years of that time period).
Why does this family history (or, rather lack thereof) matter? Because it means that Trump has no personal experience to learn from and appreciate military sacrifice, and no authentic family history stories to share with the tens of millions of family members of proud Veterans, living and dead who served their country honorably in times of war during the past century. biden should have brought up the trump family's lack of military service.
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When Wallace brought up the "very fine people", all Trump had to do was say "Chris, that comment was directed at the people on the statue debate, and I specifically condemned racists afterwards. We need to end this lie".......instead he just said "read the whole transcript".
He could have countered Biden on law enforcement saying "you had a whole convention, and didn't mention the violence happening in our country once, and only spoke on it when the polls shifted".
Easy layups like that.
You hit the nail on the head. These kind of remarks would be perfect, simple and effective but Trump went off on weird tangents. He under-estimated Biden, hope he learns and makes changes for the next one.
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Trump and Military Service: A 100 Year Family History (June 6, 2016)
Frederick Trump (1869-1918) m. 1902; Age (1898) 29
Fred Trump (1905-1999) m. 1936 c 1937, 1938; Age (1940) 35
Donald Trump (6/14/1046-present) m. 1977; Age (1964) 18
Military Service: Frederick (None), Fred (None), Donald (None)
We have just celebrated Memorial Day for 2016, so military service to our country is freshly relevant.* In honoring America’s war dead on Memorial Day, we also honor the service of recent veterans and our family members who served to ensure freedom and liberty for all of us. Sort of a family investment in America. Trump has continued to make support for veteran’s a prime topic in the political debate.
Grandfather Frederick, though an immigrant from Germany, was an American citizen in 1898. There was no draft imposed for the Spanish American War, but we have some guidance from the Civil War draft and World War I draft standards to judge his eligibility for service, if not a strict obligation. In 1898 he was 29 years old, single, unmarried, with no dependents, not engaged in any critical war related occupation, and with no religious objections. Thus, he was a prime candidate for service, or induction had there been a draft.
In the spring of 1898 he moved to Canada (until 1901), when he returned briefly to Germany and married in 1902, and then returned to NY. When he attempted to return to Germany on a permanent basis again in 1904, he was expelled from the country because of an official finding that he had evaded his military service obligation (active to age 35) when he originally left the country in 1885. He did not serve in the military in either country. He had no legal military service obligation in the US, but was found to be in violation of his mandatory German 3-year military service duty.
Father Fred was born in 1905. At the time of World War II and the imposition of a draft in 1940, at age 35 he was married and had 2 small children. He was subject to the draft. He was not engaged in any occupation subject to service exemption, such as war related production, public health and safety jobs, or agricultural employment. In truth, even with the expansive induction criteria in 1942, he still would have been lower on the priority list of men to be drafted because of his marriage and 3 dependent children. By 1943 he would have aged out of the high risk draft pool. He was subject to the draft in World War II, but was never called to serve.
In 1964 Donald turned 18 and had to register. He was unmarried, with no dependents, and not engaged in any employment which carried occupational exemptions (war related work, health and safety occupations, farm work). He was prime draft material during the years from 1964-1972. He had typical college student deferments from 1964-1968, but they expired on graduation. He was then classified as 1-A, then 1-Y, and finally 4-F. His high lottery number (.350) was for 1970. So, from June1968 until January 1970 (18 months) he was at high risk to be drafted. He obtained a medical deferment (1-Y) for a minor condition (except in wartime), which was later converted to a permanently disqualifying illness in 1971.
There is another special feature in Donald’s draft history. He graduated high school from the New York Military Academy in 1964, and while a cadet there was an officer in an official established junior R.O.T.C. command. As such, he would have received special considerations had he volunteered for military service (choice of military specialty, officer training school). He declined to take advantage.
For three generations, Trump’s paternal line has not offered or performed any military service for America, voluntary or through the draft. His father and grandfather played by the rules in America, but Donald bent them to advantage.
The Trump men were all eligible for military service to America. Millions of their fellow Americans volunteered or were drafted into service for their country during wartime. The Trumps all chose not to contribute in the most personal way one can to defend America’s freedom of speech, and to preserve the bounties of our economic and political system. They didn’t think the discounted value of their American citizenship, and the bounties our country provides, were worth enough to merit Trump military service.
What they did is not illegal, but it is not admirable or generous. Not even once in 100 years (1885-1980). Through five major military conflicts: Spanish American, World War I, World War II, the Korean War, and Viet Nam (which were contested for 30 years of that time period).
Why does this family history (or, rather lack thereof) matter? Because it means that Trump has no personal experience to learn from and appreciate military sacrifice, and no authentic family history stories to share with the tens of millions of family members of proud Veterans, living and dead who served their country honorably in times of war during the past century. biden should have brought up the trump family's lack of military service.
To be both direct and honest, this is of little concern to many on both sides of this debate. Few men are Patton. No...Not Oswalt Patton, General George Patton. Even among generals, few are as great as he.
In speaking with the maternal side of my family over the decades of my life I have come to understand that many of them tend to view the military as a necessary "retarded" child. It is there to protect them from the Nazis, both real as in WWII and imaginary, i.e., those they choose to label such, primarily to belittle, neutralize, etc. It is also there to keep the lower classes in line should we rise up against our betters. A male relative, looking at me with disdain in his face and hatred in his eyes said that "people" such as I serve two things: Their master and his purpose. Of course if he were in a bad area of town he would wish the Goylem were there to protect him from harm.
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but China looks suspicious with the whole China disease stuff
An alpha american president might have caused the chinks to get PTSD from Hiroshima and Nagasaki
I agree, but it's simpler than the Chinese getting PTSD from Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The US economy under Trump was booming before the virus, while China's economy was going down the toilet in big part because of the trade war Trump started with them.
Trump is winning the game of economic chicken with China
https://finance.yahoo.com/m/06d535ab-511b-39e5-b4f3-fce315a14fc7/trump-is-winning-the-game-of.html
Trump will win the trade war with China, says Gary Shilling
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/01/05/trump-will-win-the-trade-war-with-china-says-gary-shilling.html
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kinda like selling ice to an eskimo :D
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Asia markets sink as the Chinese yuan tumbles
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Asian markets plummeted Monday as the Chinese yuan fell sharply, days after US President Donald Trump's vow to impose fresh tariffs on goods from China sent trade war fears soaring.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/asia-markets-sink-chinese-yuan-tumbles-035245712--finance.html
China will lower import tariffs on over 850 products from January 1, finance ministry says
PUBLISHED SUN, DEC 22 2019
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/23/china-will-lower-import-tariffs-on-over-850-products-from-january-1.html
Trump signs ‘phase one’ trade deal with China in push to stop economic conflict
PUBLISHED WED, JAN 15 2020
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/15/trump-and-china-sign-phase-one-trade-agreement.html
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I hate the fucking Chinese. Bunch of soulless pricks
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Good points Loco. Funny how this virus has benefitted the chinks so much and turned what was happening on its head into their favor.
Everything was improving, Trump was sticking up for Americas interest on the world stage. Biden doesn't have the sack for that.
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I hate the fucking Chinese. Bunch of soulless pricks
Nothing but a bunch of pricks is right, brother! They murdered countless female babies and now they're a shitload of roosters without any hens to peck.
Trump 2020 and beyond!
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Holy shit! Never have I agreed with so many of you all. Only a couple of diehard Trump puppets remain delusional. Not naming any names.
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BIDEN WAS WEARING A WIRE
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFwrMKZggVZ/?igshid=d3jotp1oapoo
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BIDEN was HIDEN’ something up his sleeve too
https://mobile.twitter.com/chiiium/status/1311275761807101952?s=10
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They both failed but its TRUMP 2020 for me.
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Holy shit! Never have I agreed with so many of you all. Only a couple of diehard Trump puppets remain delusional. Not naming any names.
Merde alors, eh? Reality does not feed your ego, trust me.
Your party and mind are naught but a whited sepulcher. Oh wait...You would call it a "privileged sepulcher".
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Holy shit! Never have I agreed with so many of you all. Only a couple of diehard Trump puppets remain delusional. Not naming any names.
You're a FOOL if you think Sleepy Joe will win, delusional.
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Holy shit! Never have I agreed with so many of you all. Only a couple of diehard Trump puppets remain delusional. Not naming any names.
You've been the puppet to your many gay ventriloquists.
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Biden's a daft, atrophied, old codger. He didn't pass the eye test, was incoherent, and looked like an impotent, smelly sack of dying bacteria. Here's a test: watch the "debate" again with the sound off – who looks like he has command and presence?
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Biden's a daft, atrophied, old codger. He didn't pass the eye test, was incoherent, and looked like an impotent, smelly sack of dying bacteria. Here's a test: watch the "debate" again with the sound off – who looks like he has command and presence?
The finest writer we have here! Good to see you, sir!
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The finest writer we have here! Good to see you, sir!
My friend (and to my other friends), always a pleasure!
Stay well,
Kahn
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Biden's a daft, atrophied, old codger. He didn't pass the eye test, was incoherent, and looked like an impotent, smelly sack of dying bacteria. Here's a test: watch the "debate" again with the sound off – who looks like he has command and presence?
That's a pretty cool lens/perspective.
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No mask. No social distancing. Sickly old man spit on Wallace's face. :-X
Democratic presidential candidate former Vice President Joe Biden and Jill Biden, lean in to talk to moderator Chris Wallace of Fox News at the conclusion of the first presidential debate
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President Trump was asked to condemn white supremacists and militia groups, but Biden was never asked to condemn Antifa and BLM.
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President Trump was asked to condemn white supremacists and militia groups, but Biden was never asked to condemn Antifa and BLM.
Trump already had condemned them in the famous "very fine people" lie.
That's all he had to say.
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President Trump was asked to condemn white supremacists and militia groups, but Biden was never asked to condemn Antifa and BLM.
Trump asked which group to condemn. He said “ok, what shall we call them?” I think he said it twice. And the moderator didn’t name a group to condemn.
Biden was not asked to condemn anyone because he was given easy questions
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When someone screams that I am a racist (and this happens in public by sign wielding cretins) I simply tell them I am human and therefor I am for humans. They behave as dangerous, unreasoning, wild animals and I will choose civilized humans over them any day.
One slob recently threatened to drag me from my car while I waited to turn left at an intersection he was screaming from. I had my windows down and showed him my handicapable placard and my polio cane and assured him that his ass would be in jail after he was released from the ICU.
I will NOT be harmed by these cretins. He was the only black guy at a BLM DEF2YT "meet and beat". The world hasn't gone mad, the media makes it seem so for their advantage but as I said to another person here, crazy will NOT fuck with crazier. And if crazier is bigger and stronger it will really stear clear. And if that doesn't work it's time to go Josey Wales on them.
The cucktards here will ultimately eat one another because they don't celebrate differences, they despise them. Everyone must not just toe their line but snort it as well.
Fuck That Noise.
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none of these mongrels are fit to be president, here's hoping America burns to the ground. Hit the fucking reset button
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When someone screams that I am a racist (and this happens in public by sign wielding cretins) I simply tell them I am human and therefor I am for humans. They behave as dangerous, unreasoning, wild animals and I will choose civilized humans over them any day.
One slob recently threatened to drag me from my car while I waited to turn left at an intersection he was screaming from. I had my windows down and showed him my handicapable placard and my polio cane and assured him that his ass would be in jail after he was released from the ICU.
I will NOT be harmed by these cretins. He was the only black guy at a BLM DEF2YT "meet and beat". The world hasn't gone mad, the media makes it seem so for their advantage but as I said to another person here, crazy will NOT fuck with crazier. And if crazier is bigger and stronger it will really stear clear. And if that doesn't work it's time to go Josey Wales on them.
The cucktards here will ultimately eat one another because they don't celebrate differences, they despise them. Everyone must not just toe their line but snort it as well.
Fuck That Noise.
You carry a fire arm Scott? Some punk tries to drag you from your car you can legally light him up I believe? One of the joys of America, your access to guns and sensible rights to protect yourself if under attack.
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Trying to argue about who won this is like having the Kentucky Derby with just two 3-legged horses showing up and running the race in 45 minutes and calling it a winner.
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You carry a fire arm Scott? Some punk tries to drag you from your car you can legally light him up I believe? One of the joys of America, your access to guns and sensible rights to protect yourself if under attack.
Oh no, I do not. I am the only adult male in my family that does not shoot nor carry. I am not very good at it and so I choose not to even try. My brothers get a chuckle out of it.
My older brother let me try a rifle at a range and I was just okay with it but as he pointed out, I would probably reach for the rifle and wind up pointing one of my crutches at the bad guys! ;D ;D
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Poor Coach falling for fake news on social media
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/29/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-debate-poll/index.html
Biden 60% Trump 28% Both did equally well 5% Neither 6% No opinion 1%
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-first-presidential-debate-2020-09-29/
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You just put up. Link from CNN and you’re talking about fake news...lol. Did you actually think most of the media wasn’t going to give it to Biden? Plus add in Matthews was covering Biden’s ass
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Like many have stated, Trump would have completely owned this debate if he was calm and just let Biden talk himself into a corner. I think the content of what Trump said was much better than Biden, but the way he acts makes it hard to watch. If he can calm down and just focus on the debate and not coming off as such an asshole, i think it's easy win for Trump.
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In the primaries 24 Democrat candidates, including Hairplugs Biden raised their hands and said they were for open borders and free healthcare for illegals.
Not one mention of that last night.
And that is Trump’s fault, not the moderator’s.
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Trump was clear winner...Joe was shaky and weak all night , stuttering and stammering and looking like a shell of a Man...Clearly not presidential material.
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About as neutral as you can get
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I don't think either one of them won the debate. Trump certainly didn't like his bully attempt not having any effect which is why he couldn't stop interrupting and fidgeting non stop. Biden simply deflected on things that he could have offered some kind of stronger reply to.
Biggest loser was the moderator though.
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Trump and Military Service: A 100 Year Family History (June 6, 2016)
Frederick Trump (1869-1918) m. 1902; Age (1898) 29
Fred Trump (1905-1999) m. 1936 c 1937, 1938; Age (1940) 35
Donald Trump (6/14/1046-present) m. 1977; Age (1964) 18
Military Service: Frederick (None), Fred (None), Donald (None)
We have just celebrated Memorial Day for 2016, so military service to our country is freshly relevant.* In honoring America’s war dead on Memorial Day, we also honor the service of recent veterans and our family members who served to ensure freedom and liberty for all of us. Sort of a family investment in America. Trump has continued to make support for veteran’s a prime topic in the political debate.
Grandfather Frederick, though an immigrant from Germany, was an American citizen in 1898. There was no draft imposed for the Spanish American War, but we have some guidance from the Civil War draft and World War I draft standards to judge his eligibility for service, if not a strict obligation. In 1898 he was 29 years old, single, unmarried, with no dependents, not engaged in any critical war related occupation, and with no religious objections. Thus, he was a prime candidate for service, or induction had there been a draft.
In the spring of 1898 he moved to Canada (until 1901), when he returned briefly to Germany and married in 1902, and then returned to NY. When he attempted to return to Germany on a permanent basis again in 1904, he was expelled from the country because of an official finding that he had evaded his military service obligation (active to age 35) when he originally left the country in 1885. He did not serve in the military in either country. He had no legal military service obligation in the US, but was found to be in violation of his mandatory German 3-year military service duty.
Father Fred was born in 1905. At the time of World War II and the imposition of a draft in 1940, at age 35 he was married and had 2 small children. He was subject to the draft. He was not engaged in any occupation subject to service exemption, such as war related production, public health and safety jobs, or agricultural employment. In truth, even with the expansive induction criteria in 1942, he still would have been lower on the priority list of men to be drafted because of his marriage and 3 dependent children. By 1943 he would have aged out of the high risk draft pool. He was subject to the draft in World War II, but was never called to serve.
In 1964 Donald turned 18 and had to register. He was unmarried, with no dependents, and not engaged in any employment which carried occupational exemptions (war related work, health and safety occupations, farm work). He was prime draft material during the years from 1964-1972. He had typical college student deferments from 1964-1968, but they expired on graduation. He was then classified as 1-A, then 1-Y, and finally 4-F. His high lottery number (.350) was for 1970. So, from June1968 until January 1970 (18 months) he was at high risk to be drafted. He obtained a medical deferment (1-Y) for a minor condition (except in wartime), which was later converted to a permanently disqualifying illness in 1971.
There is another special feature in Donald’s draft history. He graduated high school from the New York Military Academy in 1964, and while a cadet there was an officer in an official established junior R.O.T.C. command. As such, he would have received special considerations had he volunteered for military service (choice of military specialty, officer training school). He declined to take advantage.
For three generations, Trump’s paternal line has not offered or performed any military service for America, voluntary or through the draft. His father and grandfather played by the rules in America, but Donald bent them to advantage.
The Trump men were all eligible for military service to America. Millions of their fellow Americans volunteered or were drafted into service for their country during wartime. The Trumps all chose not to contribute in the most personal way one can to defend America’s freedom of speech, and to preserve the bounties of our economic and political system. They didn’t think the discounted value of their American citizenship, and the bounties our country provides, were worth enough to merit Trump military service.
What they did is not illegal, but it is not admirable or generous. Not even once in 100 years (1885-1980). Through five major military conflicts: Spanish American, World War I, World War II, the Korean War, and Viet Nam (which were contested for 30 years of that time period).
Why does this family history (or, rather lack thereof) matter? Because it means that Trump has no personal experience to learn from and appreciate military sacrifice, and no authentic family history stories to share with the tens of millions of family members of proud Veterans, living and dead who served their country honorably in times of war during the past century. biden should have brought up the trump family's lack of military service.
The lack of a military background in his family means nothing. The most important thing is that he strongly supports our military and has beefed it up far behond the level that Obama did. Clinton and Obama had no military background and probably despised our soldiers as so many liberals do.
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When a candidate enters a debate and flatly refuses to answer questions (as in verbally refuses), that should be a massive disqualification. Biden was given many passes which is insane. He cannot be trusted.
Your bias is showing: both Biden and Trump refused to answer questions, but you're focusing only on one candidate. Why?
It seems utterly backwards to me that because a candidate was expected to be incompetent, proved.to be incompetent that somehow he wins........ fuck me do you give last place podium prizes?
I didn't say Biden won. I said Biden exceeded the expectations that the Trump campaign conditioned people and that was a success for Biden. The reality is that both Trump and Biden lost and, really, America lost.
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BIDEN was HIDEN’ something up his sleeve too
https://mobile.twitter.com/chiiium/status/1311275761807101952?s=10
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Biden [...] looked very pale, not sharp mentally
Biden looked like he has aged 10 years in 6 months. He spoke very slowly, had no energy, had a weak tired look in his face, no more threats to fist fight Trump, no more push up challenges.
Spot on. Say whatever else you want about Trump, he doesn't look like he's 74. You could have told people he's 10 years younger and it wouldn't be out of the question. Biden, on the other hand, yikes. You could have told people he's 10 years older than he is and I don't think anyone would say "nah, that's not possible."
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About as neutral as you can get
A Twitter poll? LOL.
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Wallace interrupted Trump 76 times to Biden’s 15
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About as neutral as you can get
Whatever makes you happy. ;)
I don't put much stock in a Twitter poll. How'd you vote? Bet my vote cancelled yours.
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A Twitter poll? LOL.
Even Telemundo (Leftist) had the debate 66% Trump 34% Biden
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A Twitter poll? LOL.
145,750 votes. If it was going to be skewed in Biden’s favor, it would have happened on Dorseys watch. Probably a better indicator than phone polling
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Whatever makes you happy. ;)
I don't put much stock in a Twitter poll. How'd you vote? Bet my vote cancelled yours.
CSPAN and again, 145,750 voted
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Trump for a narrow win. Biden came across as weak, looked very pale, not sharp mentally, failed to back law & order, lacked substance on issues, came off as ignorant on issues, was very negative about country, a weak beta male. Trump was himself, pulled no punches, landed more punches, typical alpha male Trump. Strong alpha vs. weak beta.
Trump wears theater make up. Biden doesn't.
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You just put up. Link from CNN and you’re talking about fake news...lol. Did you actually think most of the media wasn’t going to give it to Biden? Plus add in Matthews was covering Biden’s ass
I posted the correct CNN link and poll because some moron completely failed at it.
VERDICT: President Trump WINS ‼️
CSPAN: ✅ Trump (53% Trump; 29% Biden)
Telemundo: ✅ Trump (66% Trump; 34% Biden)
CNN: ✅ Trump (3 votes Trump; 1 vote Biden of decided voters) https://api.parler.com/l/6kQse https://api.parler.com/l/EDMq4
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About as neutral as you can get
A Twitter poll? LOL.
The irony is that Cspan also had Hilary beating Trump in the debates 4 years ago
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Even Telemundo (Leftist) had the debate 66% Trump 34% Biden
66 Percent of Spanish-Speaking Americans in Telemundo Twitter Poll Think Trump Just Won the Debate
BY JEFFERY MARTIN ON 9/30/20 AT 1:29 AM EDT
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66 Percent of Spanish-Speaking Americans in Telemundo Twitter Poll Think Trump Just Won the Debate
BY JEFFERY MARTIN ON 9/30/20 AT 1:29 AM EDT
Debates probably mean nada these days Im thinking...
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BIDEN’S WIRES
https://twitter.com/realjameswoods/status/1311337996667346944?s=10
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I posted the correct CNN link and poll because some moron completely failed at it.
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What’s the problem? The numbers are basically the same. I won’t take a CNN or even Fox poll seriously because both skew their sampling and demographics. I posted the CSPAN poll because they are for the most part neutral, I posted the Telemundo poll because it’s a left leaning outlet much like CNN or MSNBC. They’re polling results surprised me. How that will resonate with the Hispanic (legal) demographic remains to be seen
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I posted the correct CNN link and poll because some moron completely failed at it.
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Apparently a lot of folks who were polled last night agree with you.
Post-debate CNN poll: Six in 10 say Biden won the debate
By Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Director
Updated 12:47 AM ET, Wed September 30, 2020
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Today’s 2020 Election Polls: Biden Won The Debate, Surveys Show
Jack Brewster
Jack BrewsterForbes Staff
Business
I'm a news reporter for Forbes.
Six in ten voters said Biden won the debate Tuesday, while just 28% said Trump did, a CNN poll of debate watchers conducted by SSRS found.
An even larger majority (65%) said Biden was “more truthful” in his answers than Trump was (29%), according to the CNN survey.
63% of voters said Biden had a better plan for solving the country’s problems than Trump (30%).
Biden was also victorious in a CBS News/YouGov poll taken after the debate, with 48% of voters saying that Biden won, while 41% said the same about Trump (10% said the debate was a tie).
Voters in the CBS News/YouGov survey, however, were down about the tone of the debate, with 83% of viewers saying it was “negative,” while just 17% said it was positive.
69% of voters said the debate made them feel “annoyed,” a possible indication that the chaotic nature of the debate was not well received by Americans.
51% of debate watchers in a poll from Data Progress said Biden won, while 39% said the same about Trump.
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Biden sounded like an idiot.
Lock the entire nation down again ??
ANTIFA doesn't exist??
De·fund the police??
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Biden sounded like an idiot.
Lock the entire nation down again ??
ANTIFA doesn't exist??
De·fund the police??
That statement alone will hurt him immensely
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Biden sounded like an idiot.
Lock the entire nation down again ??
ANTIFA doesn't exist??
De·fund the police??
you sound like an idiot here
he said antifa is an ideology
and he wants to increase funding to the police to include mental help professionals for non violent calls, and is pro community police
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Even Telemundo (Leftist) had the debate 66% Trump 34% Biden
I can't speak to the Telemundo poll, because I haven't looked at it, but Twitter polls are completely unscientific and, therefore, largely meaningless.
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trump clearly won though, anytime it devolves to madness and incivility he's won
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While watching last night's debate ....
"If these two are the best within the US to lead this country .... we're definately up shit-creek without a paddle!"
And them democrats seem to be collecting every paddle ever made .... and destroying them immediately!
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trump clearly won though, anytime it devolves to madness and incivility he's won
Right, because there are a lot of uncivil and crazy people who recognize one of their own.
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you sound like an idiot here
he said antifa is an ideology
and he wants to increase funding to the police to include mental help professionals for non violent calls, and is pro community police
just an "idealogy"???
You are a dumb-shit and its no wonder you support Biden.
"Dear Joe, put a lid on it, man. #Antifa is not just “an idea.” Antifa is a violent, anarchist, insurrectionist paramilitary wing of the party that supports you. "
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1311353630931386368
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Trump asked which group to condemn. He said “ok, what shall we call them?” I think he said it twice. And the moderator didn’t name a group to condemn.
Biden was not asked to condemn anyone because he was given easy questions
wallace named the proud boys. but you could barely here him over trumps babbling.
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Still won’t condemn Antifa
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-antifa-idea-what-we-know
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https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1311337996667346944/photo/1
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just an "idealogy"???
You are a dumb-shit and its no wonder you support Biden.
"Dear Joe, put a lid on it, man. #Antifa is not just “an idea.” Antifa is a violent, anarchist, insurrectionist paramilitary wing of the party that supports you. "
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1311353630931386368
all of these groups are a bunch of degenerates. Proud boys, antifa, califa, Queen latifa. Fuck them all.
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Biden sounded like an idiot.
Lock the entire nation down again ??
He criticized Trump for locking down and ruining the economy, and for wanting to open back up.
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Come on man....Trump’s responses were weak and did not carry any type of specifics.
For Christ’s sake, he says murders are up 150-200% in Democrat run cities. Wallace says, but murders are up in Tulsa and Fort Wayne and those are Republican run cities?
And Trump let that shit slide....like 150% of the murder rate in Chicago, New York, and LA is equal to two little midwestern cow towns.
Fuck the poll results, this was a weak performance by both. Let’s put it into a boxing analogy:
The Champion fought an over the hill, aging, has-been contender. The contender moved slow, predictable, and kept coming forward throwing the same combinations.
And instead of taking him out right away, the Champion allowed the contender and the referee to dictate the fight until it ended up a decision on the judge’s scorecards. That debate should have been OVER in the first ten minutes if Trump was prepared.
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all of these groups are a bunch of degenerates. Proud boys, antifa, califa, Queen latifa. Fuck them all.
I've never heard of Proud Boys.
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The finest writer we have here! Good to see you, sir!
Indeed, and I am [perhaps] overly proud of my own writing skills, so that's saying something :)
Nonetheless, it's hard to compare oneself to a genetically-engineered ubermensch :) By comparison, we're merely ragged claws, scuttling across the floors of silent seas.
Khan for Imperator Americana!
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Indeed, and I am [perhaps] overly proud of my own writing skills, so that's saying something :)
Nonetheless, it's hard to compare oneself to a genetically-engineered ubermensch :) By comparison, we're merely ragged claws, scuttling across the floors of silent seas.
Khan for Imperator Americana!
Beautifully phrased, my brother!
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I've never heard of Proud Boys.
i've been posting about this group for over a month already. good people. you can buy the t-shirt on amazon.
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i've been posting about this group for over a month already. good people. you can buy the t-shirt on amazon.
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I've never heard of Proud Boys.
Had to research them too. First time hearing about them.
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Most people have never heard of them. Probably more Antifa and BLM in Seattle than the entire population of Proud Boys.
Leftists with their media buddies are pretending that the country is overrun with these groups and it's a smokescreen.
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Beautifully phrased, my brother!
Thank you, brother :)
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And thank you, too, brother!
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I've never heard of Proud Boys.
The Proud Boys are small potatoes, an inconsequential bogeyman to rile up soggy leftists. Now, the Van Buren Boys are a completely different ball of wax, they don't stand down unless you possess a powerful grasp of their mighty shibboleth.
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Your bias is showing: both Biden and Trump refused to answer questions, but you're focusing only on one candidate. Why?
I didn't say Biden won. I said Biden exceeded the expectations that the Trump campaign conditioned people and that was a success for Biden. The reality is that both Trump and Biden lost and, really, America lost.
It's not bias. It's a comment based on the outcome from watching the debate.
I wanted to hear answers from Biden but many times he was unable to answer the question and deflected. The moderator would move it on instead of pushing Biden to answer. It was something overwhelmingly obvious during the debate, hence, not bias but an observation. I'm not alone on that as many are talking about the same observation.
I don't believe both lost as i don't believe either lost any voters they had prior to the debate. I think they left with the same and the debate has no major influential impact on the eventual outcome.
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I hate the fucking Chinese. Bunch of soulless pricks
The Chinese race died after the death of Bruce Lee.
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BIDEN WAS WEARING A WIRE
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFwrMKZggVZ/?igshid=d3jotp1oapoo
If that was a wire how was it communicating anything to Biden? I don't see anything going to his ear.
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Biden's a daft, atrophied, old codger. He didn't pass the eye test, was incoherent, and looked like an impotent, smelly sack of dying bacteria. Here's a test: watch the "debate" again with the sound off – who looks like he has command and presence?
The only problem with that is there was sound.
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If that was a wire how was it communicating anything to Biden? I don't see anything going to his ear.
Earpiece is wireless.
However, as much as I despise the Democratic party, I don't believe he was using anything.
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Trump already had condemned them in the famous "very fine people" lie.
That's all he had to say.
But why didn't he just say it? This was an easy one. Why give the Left any opportunity to put their spin on it by not being direct and forceful like he did at Charlottesville?
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BIDEN WAS WEARING A WIRE
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFwrMKZggVZ/?igshid=d3jotp1oapoo
As i predicted. I'm like an oracle, honestly ;D
They had it coming just putting whatever paid puppet there. Will be more cringe to come.
Will be hilarious to watch when the debates with Trump, they will have to put up huge teleprompters in front of him just so he can debate the man.But wouldn't suprise me if he has a hidden earbud where he just parrots what someone talking to him in it says.
Trump should demand they remove and ban cheating/helpers like that.
This is also explains why the old senile man sounded more coherent than he usually does.
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Trump asked which group to condemn. He said “ok, what shall we call them?” I think he said it twice. And the moderator didn’t name a group to condemn.
Biden was not asked to condemn anyone because he was given easy questions
Wallace spoke of militias and White Supremist. Trump asked, "Give me a name?" Biden called out "Proud Boys" a Right Wing extremist group known for their propensity for violence. Trump says "Proud Boys?" to clarify. Then replies with the stand down and stand-by line. "Stand by"? Stand by for what? That's what you tell your posse or your army. Hold your fire until...
This was an easy one, a no brainer, he should have just answered the quesiton directly and condemn them unequivocally. Why give he Left an opportunity to put their own spin on it?
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The only problem with that is there was sound.
Hi, Pellius,
Of course; however, when it comes to drawing inferences, there is no shortage of examples that show the faculty of sight to be a more powerful influencer (both conscious and unconscious) than the faculty of hearing in making snap judgments -- hence such historical caveats not to judge a book by its cover and my "eye test" set up. I wasn't being scientifically or philosophically rigorous, though I'd hazard that Biden looks like a chronic fecal drip even to his democratic proponents, who are resigned (until the anticipated moment of replacement) to look away in disgust.
All my best,
Kahn
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Wallace spoke of militias and White Supremist. Trump asked, "Give me a name?" Biden called out "Proud Boys" a Right Wing extremist group known for their propensity for violence. Trump says "Proud Boys?" to clarify. Then replies with the stand down and stand-by line. "Stand by"? Stand by for what? That's what you tell your posse or your army. Hold your fire until...
This was an easy one, a no brainer, he should have just answered the quesiton directly and condemn them unequivocally. Why give he Left an opportunity to put their own spin on it?
Proud boys lol... Harmless
Who do you think a store owner feels safer around. A gang of proud boys or a gang of urban black lives matter activists.
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You just put up. Link from CNN and you’re talking about fake news...lol. Did you actually think most of the media wasn’t going to give it to Biden? Plus add in Matthews was covering Biden’s ass
Coach, to be fair, it was you who first posted the CNN poll which was not actually by CNN but by Trump's spokeswoman. But now that Flexacon posted the real CNN poll you dismiss it as fake news. Also quoting a CSPAN poll that was just made up as it was still in progress. This exposes your tunnel vision bias and diminishes your credibility.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/30/reliable-polls-show-that-biden-won-debate-so-those-arent-what-trumps-allies-are-highlighting/
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That's a screen shot from Twitter. How come I can't find anything about this on the CSPAN site? All I saw was a polling in progress by CSPAN on Twitter and as of this writing there is still about 3 hours to go before the polling ends.
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1311134050644615168
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Proud Boys...LOL. Are they a terrorist group, like Antifa and BLM? When was the Proud Boys' latest act of terrorism, or looting, or rioting, or violence?
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Proud Boys...LOL. Are they a terrorist group, like Antifa and BLM? When was the Proud Boys' latest act of terrorism, or looting, or rioting, or violence?
Liberals such as Straw and Prime would say their crime is being unashamedly Caucasian as evidenced by not kowtowing to anyone brandishing the "race" card.
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Come on man....Trump’s responses were weak and did not carry any type of specifics.
For Christ’s sake, he says murders are up 150-200% in Democrat run cities. Wallace says, but murders are up in Tulsa and Fort Wayne and those are Republican run cities?
And Trump let that shit slide....like 150% of the murder rate in Chicago, New York, and LA is equal to two little midwestern cow towns.
Fuck the poll results, this was a weak performance by both. Let’s put it into a boxing analogy:
The Champion fought an over the hill, aging, has-been contender. The contender moved slow, predictable, and kept coming forward throwing the same combinations.
And instead of taking him out right away, the Champion allowed the contender and the referee to dictate the fight until it ended up a decision on the judge’s scorecards. That debate should have been OVER in the first ten minutes if Trump was prepared.
And how much has has the homicide rate gone up in Fort Wayne. I can't find any stats for 2019 but in 2018 it was 41 and in 2020 it was 33.
https://wpta21.com/2018/12/17/2018-homicides-surpass-2017-numbers/#:~:text=FORT%20WAYNE%2C%20Ind.,they've%20investigated%2045%20homicides.
https://wpta21.com/abc21-crime-tracker/#:~:text=There%20have%20been%2033%20homicides,and%20Allen%20County%20in%202020.
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Earpiece is wireless.
However, as much as I despise the Democratic party, I don't believe he was using anything.
Watch the debates again... watch Biden constantly look down for extended periods, as if he didn’t want to be distracted as he focused on listening to voice in his ear
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Hi, Pellius,
Of course; however, when it comes to drawing inferences, there is no shortage of examples that show the faculty of sight to be a more powerful influencer (both conscious and unconscious) than the faculty of hearing in making snap judgments -- hence such historical caveats not to judge a book by its cover and my "eye test" set up. I wasn't being scientifically or philosophically rigorous, though I'd hazard that Biden looks like a chronic fecal drip even to his democratic proponents, who are resigned (until the anticipated moment of replacement) to look away in disgust.
All my best,
Kahn
Actually, when comparing the senses vision is the much more shallow perspective than hearing. Try just listening to the debate without watching it. Remember, when Nixon debated Kennedy those who listened to it on the radio said Nixon won. He had the better arguments and seemed more informed than Kennedy. But those who watched it said that Nixon lost due to the visual disparities in their appearance which portrayed Nixon in a bad light.
"Kennedy looked tanned and fit; he had spent time in the sun and brought his own makeup artist. Nixon was recovering from a knee injury that had put him in the hospital; he looked thin and pale and, having refused producer Don Hewitt's offer of makeup, was seen visibly sweating and with a five o'clock shadow."
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Proud boys lol... Harmless
Who do you think a store owner feels safer around. A gang of proud boys or a gang of urban black lives matter activists.
The question wasn't which group is more threatening. The question was, generally will you condemn White Supremist and Militia groups; an example of the Proud Boys was given, granted a minor player in the right wing extremist movement. But why leave any ambiguity, especially when Trump is always charged with being a racist? Why didn't he just unambiguously and forcefully denounce all White Supremist, Neo-Nazis, and right wing extremist militia
groups?
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You're safer wearing a blm shirt at a Trump rally than you are wearing a Trump shirt at a blm "protest".
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Actually, when comparing the senses vision is the much more shallow perspective than hearing. Try just listening to the debate without watching it. Remember, when Nixon debated Kennedy those who listened to it on the radio said Nixon won. He had the better arguments and seemed more informed than Kennedy. But those who watched it said that Nixon lost due to the visual disparities in their appearance which portrayed Nixon in a bad light.
"Kennedy looked tanned and fit; he had spent time in the sun and brought his own makeup artist. Nixon was recovering from a knee injury that had put him in the hospital; he looked thin and pale and, having refused producer Don Hewitt's offer of makeup, was seen visibly sweating and with a five o'clock shadow."
Hey, again, Pellius,
There is nothing to suggest in my little post to suggest that sight cannot be misleading or shallow, as you put it. I didn't make a normative claim, but only sketched how sight can influence impressions disproportionately, which you seem to confirm in your Nixon/Kennedy example. Biden looks like thrice lapped and regurgitated dog vomit.
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Right, because there are a lot of uncivil and crazy people who recognize one of their own.
you are thinking of the people destroying your city
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Hey, again, Pellius,
There is nothing to suggest in my little post to suggest that sight cannot be misleading or shallow, as you put it. I didn't make a normative claim, but only sketched how sight can influence impressions disproportionately, which you seem to confirm in your Nixon/Kennedy example. Biden looks like thrice lapped and regurgitated dog vomit.
Ah, I see. Yes, to be precise sight can be the more powerful "influencer" as to one's perception. I was thinking is terms of accuracy in accessment. For example, I can tell more about a person by listening to him than by looking at him. I knew a guy in one of my Jiu-Jitsu classes that I had a very dim view of because he was covered with tattoos. After I got to talk to him my impression completely changed and we would become close friends. He owned operated a tattoo parlor and was quite successful driving a Mercedes and owning a nice house in Redondo Beach.
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The question wasn't which group is more threatening. The question was, generally will you condemn White Supremist and Militia groups; an example of the Proud Boys was given, granted a minor player in the right wing extremist movement. But why leave any ambiguity, especially when Trump is always charged with being a racist? Why didn't he just unambiguously and forcefully denounce all White Supremist, Neo-Nazis, and right wing extremist militia
groups?
Never seen someone bobble a softball question with such clueless incompetence. See if I can channel my inner Donald here.
"Will I condemn white supremacists? Of course. What kind of a question is that? Of course I do.
While we're at it, let's condemn racism of any kind. Telling people that their skin color is a problem, like they do in these anti-whiteness classes that people are being forced to attend. That's racist, same way anti-blackness training would be, right? That's why I put a stop to it in our military and federal institutions. Because I care about what you can do, not what you look like.
My opponent thinks your skin color defines everything about you. He doesn't think black people are able to look after themselves. He wants to give them government money. Everyone likes money but he's insulting them. None for whites. None for hispanics. None for anyone else. He wants to give black people loans while denying the same loan to someone who happens to be white. He has different rules for different skin colors. Don't believe me? It's all in writing on his website. Isn't that the definition of racist policy?
Me? I've got the same rules for everyone. That's how you can tell I'm not a racist. Joe Biden has different rules for different skin colors. Kamala Harris was right about him. Joe Biden is a racist and his racist policies are divisive and un-American."
One side or the other needs to hire me.
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Never seen someone bobble a softball question with such clueless incompetence. See if I can channel my inner Donald here.
"Will I condemn white supremacists? Of course. What kind of a question is that? Of course I do.
While we're at it, let's condemn racism of any kind. Telling people that their skin color is a problem, like they do in these anti-whiteness classes that people are being forced to attend. That's racist, same way anti-blackness training would be, right? That's why I put a stop to it in our military and federal institutions. Because I care about what you can do, not what you look like.
My opponent thinks your skin color defines everything about you. He doesn't think black people are able to look after themselves. He wants to give them government money. Everyone likes money but he's insulting them. None for whites. None for hispanics. None for anyone else. He wants to give black people loans while denying the same loan to someone who happens to be white. He has different rules for different skin colors. Don't believe me? It's all in writing on his website. Isn't that the definition of racist policy?
Me? I've got the same rules for everyone. That's how you can tell I'm not a racist. Joe Biden has different rules for different skin colors. Kamala Harris was right about him. Joe Biden is a racist and his racist policies are divisive and un-American."
One side or the other needs to hire me.
You have my support!
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why won't you condemn white supremacy ::) ::)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFyBJ2cgA8B/
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why won't you condemn white supremacy ::) ::)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFyBJ2cgA8B/
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I can’t watch this, it’s just makes my fuckkng blood boil knowing these little fucks are cowards, targeting the weak and knowing if they were caught alone away from their groups they would scream like bitches. 😡
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I can’t watch this, it’s just makes my fuckkng blood boil knowing these little fucks are cowards, targeting the weak and knowing if they were caught alone away from their groups they would scream like bitches. 😡
share it with any white traitors you know
they'll respond back and say whites do the same, then you ask them for video evidence
their response to that will be to block you ;)
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Proof that Biden lost the debate
https://mobile.twitter.com/jessebwatters/status/1311426092918550528?s=10
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If President Trump has a big picture strategy for the 3 debates, then he was very effective at detaching Hairplugs Biden from the far left last night and forcing him to take a center-left stance. The far left, the Squad, and the Bernie Bro’s., are going to be pissed about that.
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And so it begins. It’s not that Trump is unhinged and has the a toddler’s ability to control his emotions. No! He turned in an unhinged performance and acted like a toddler throwing a tantrum to “detach” Biden from his supporters. ::)
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The CSPAN poll on Twitter has just closed and it is very reassuring.
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1311134050644615168
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And so it begins. It’s not that Trump is unhinged and has the a toddler’s ability to control his emotions. No! He turned in an unhinged performance and acted like a toddler throwing a tantrum to “detach” Biden from his supporters. ::)
You’re right, anybody who would support Hairplugs Biden isn’t smart enough to realize that.
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The media would have you believe that everyone wanted this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/L6LRdy7Y/wrtwrtwr.jpg)
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Next debate moderator?
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Never seen someone bobble a softball question with such clueless incompetence. See if I can channel my inner Donald here.
"Will I condemn white supremacists? Of course. What kind of a question is that? Of course I do.
While we're at it, let's condemn racism of any kind. Telling people that their skin color is a problem, like they do in these anti-whiteness classes that people are being forced to attend. That's racist, same way anti-blackness training would be, right? That's why I put a stop to it in our military and federal institutions. Because I care about what you can do, not what you look like.
My opponent thinks your skin color defines everything about you. He doesn't think black people are able to look after themselves. He wants to give them government money. Everyone likes money but he's insulting them. None for whites. None for hispanics. None for anyone else. He wants to give black people loans while denying the same loan to someone who happens to be white. He has different rules for different skin colors. Don't believe me? It's all in writing on his website. Isn't that the definition of racist policy?
Me? I've got the same rules for everyone. That's how you can tell I'm not a racist. Joe Biden has different rules for different skin colors. Kamala Harris was right about him. Joe Biden is a racist and his racist policies are divisive and un-American."
One side or the other needs to hire me.
Seriously bro, I so wish Trump had the intellect to say something like this. It would knock creepy Joe out of the park! Instead Trump rambles on about numbers and shit no one cares about.
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He came in unprepared. His entire plan seemed to be to fluster Biden to cause a dementia breakdown. He had done no homework. Couldn't even rattle off a good bullet point list when asked why people should vote for him. Hope he puts some work in prior to #2.
I think what we saw from Biden is as good as Biden gets. The Left's policies are dogshit, and everyone is sick of their rioting, cancel culture, and bizarre identity politics, so winning over moderates like myself shouldn't be too hard
But Trump is committing the same sin the Democrats did in '16. Don't fail to take your opponent seriously.
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From Biden's website:
https://joebiden.com/climate-plan/
"Biden believes the Green New Deal is a crucial framework for meeting the climate challenges we face. It powerfully captures two basic truths, which are at the core of his plan: (1) the United States urgently needs to embrace greater ambition on an epic scale to meet the scope of this challenge, and (2) our environment and our economy are completely and totally connected."
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The Proud Boys are small potatoes, an inconsequential bogeyman to rile up soggy leftists. Now, the Van Buren Boys are a completely different ball of wax, they don't stand down unless you possess a powerful grasp of their mighty shibboleth.
(https://i.imgur.com/jRKn4Vt.gif)
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Sleepy Joe aka the walking contradiction
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Major credit to Trump for not condemning the Proud Boys.
Why? Because it's a question asked in bad faith, to make him appear weak and subject to pressure. And if he did condemn them would it make people say he's not racist? Of course not, apologizing and groveling will only make these hyenas double down on the attacks. Look at how much Trump sucks up to the Jews, did it stop any attacks? No, he's still a terrible anti-semite and Nazi. He can't do anything to rehab his image in some peoples' eyes, they just want to watch him squirm, never will they love him. Not that I'm a huge Trump fan but I really dislike his haters :D
I think The Proud boys are pretty ridiculous. Gavin stuffed a dildo up his ass on air and made out with Milo too, major degenerate behavior. :D
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Major credit to Trump for not condemning the Proud Boys.
Why? Because it's a question asked in bad faith, to make him appear weak and subject to pressure. And if he did condemn them would it make people say he's not racist? Of course not, apologizing and groveling will only make these hyenas double down on the attacks.
This.
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I honestly thought the debates were going to be just 90 minutes of racial discussions. Glad they just made it a small part.
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One point that Tucker Carlson brought was that when you compare the two candidates actual policy Trump is saying nothing controversial or radical: strong law enforcement and military, lower taxes, keep China in check, open up the economy... pretty much things that most people agree with. With Biden, he and his party wants to literally overhaul our entire political system and culture: get rid of the Electoral college, pack the courts, end the filibuster, defund police, add States like D.C. and Puerto Rico... But it's the difference in tone. Tucker said that with Trump he comes on so strong and forceful that everything seems like code Red. "He can make a wine list sound controversial." With Biden who is much more subdued that his radical proposals just kind of slip by. Tucker called it something like the "allusions of normalcy."
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.......mention of the USSF by Mr.Trump , was very interesting ;)
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5 large mangos for a shooter :D
(pm me to collect prize)
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one big thing most all people overlook is this
the media has higher rating higher views bigger money since President Trump has been in office
they pretend they want him gone, but they know who feeds them.
you think the fake story of him having the virus wasnt started by him? he feeds them disinfo they put it out, and now he can say he beat the virus. which he never had
so simple to control the media
wake the fuck up people
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one big thing most all people overlook is this
the media has higher rating higher views bigger money since President Trump has been in office
they pretend they want him gone, but they know who feeds them.
you think the fake story of him having the virus wasnt started by him? he feeds them disinfo they put it out, and now he can say he beat the virus. which he never had
so simple to control the media
wake the fuck up people
He will feed them even when he's out of office.
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the debate was epic 93 interruptions in 90 minutes. 71 by trump and 22 by biden. this country lacks the proper decorum.
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the debate was epic 93 interruptions in 90 minutes. 71 by trump and 22 by biden. this country lacks the proper decorum.
Can you even imagine how funny it would be if there are future debates the moderator has the ability to silence the microphone when someone is speaking out of turn. Trump would probably not realize his mic was turned off and carry on with his raging meltdown. Mute the sound when people on television are talking. Especially if they are agitated, the whole thing becomes comic. Trump is very expressive. Take away the vocals and you are left with a hysterical mime.
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Why are people melting down over the nasty debate and over Trump and Biden exchanging insults? What they did is very American. What were people expecting? This isn't Europe or Canada. This is America, FOOK YEAH!!!
Jefferson & Adams: Founding Frenemies
The 1800 election still stands as one of the nastiest in history. Jefferson’s supporters accused Adams of having a “hideous hermaphroditical character,” while Adams’ camp called Jefferson “a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow.” Jefferson hired a sleazy journalist, James Callendar, to smear Adams in the press, including the (false) story that he wanted to start a war with France. On the day of Jefferson’s inauguration, Adams took the early stagecoach out of Washington to rejoin Abigail in Quincy, and was not present during the ceremony. They would not exchange another word for 12 years.
Meanwhile, after serving jail time under the Sedition Act for his libel of Adams, Callendar demanded a government post in return for his service. When Jefferson failed to come through, Callendar uncovered and published the first public claims about Jefferson and his slave mistress, dubbed “Dusky Sally,” in a series of newspaper articles in 1801. No denial came from the White House, and the story would follow Jefferson for the rest of his career.
https://www.history.com/news/jefferson-adams-founding-frenemies
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the debate was epic 93 interruptions in 90 minutes. 71 by trump and 22 by biden. this country lacks the proper decorum.
being polite is your focus?
they criminally infiltrated and subverted justice on your dollar!! i mean yen in your case
go to hell with your feelings
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1) Biden started it (I believe he interrupted Trump 3 times before Trump ‘retaliated’).
2) Chris Wallace interrupted Biden 15 times – he interrupted Trump 76 times.
3) Biden interrupted Paul Ryan 82 times when they debated.
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being polite is your focus?
they criminally infiltrated and subverted justice on your dollar!! i mean yen in your case
go to hell with your feelings
the epic angry Gollum weighs in again with more insults and innuendos . how very trump like of you. but i still wish you well and hope you get your drinking and drug problem under control.
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First Debate Cold Open
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Jim Carey's stash of pills killed his girlfriend. ::)
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First Debate Cold Open
SNL jumped the shark years ago.
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Trump is very expressive. Take away the vocals and you are left with a hysterical mime.
Can you imagine what the sign language interpreter was going through at the last debate?
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Can you imagine what the sign language interpreter was going through at the last debate?
I've been thinking about hiring one of those broads to follow me around.
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Can you imagine what the sign language interpreter was going through at the last debate?
He had a seizure.
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1) Biden started it (I believe he interrupted Trump 3 times before Trump ‘retaliated’).
2) Chris Wallace interrupted Biden 15 times – he interrupted Trump 76 times.
3) Biden interrupted Paul Ryan 82 times when they debated.
Here is a link to the transcript of the debate between Biden and Trump. https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-joe-biden-1st-presidential-debate-transcript-2020
Here is a link to the Youtube video of the whole debate.
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Occurred to me today, if Biden does win, will the Libs "celebrate" by going stark raving mad, looting, robbing, destroying everything everywhere? That's what I foresee.
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Occurred to me today, if Biden does win, will the Libs "celebrate" by going stark raving mad, looting, robbing, destroying everything everywhere? That's what I foresee.
Win or lose, they will riot and loot. They are mentally ill and nothing will appease them and this is why they must be defeated.
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Win or lose, they will riot and loot. They are mentally ill and nothing will appease them and this is why they must be defeated.
Biden is not far out enough for the Commie left whose goal is the destruction of America.