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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #325 on: September 30, 2020, 05:30:27 PM »
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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #326 on: September 30, 2020, 06:05:08 PM »
Hey, again, Pellius,

There is nothing to suggest in my little post to suggest that sight cannot be misleading or shallow, as you put it. I didn't make a normative claim, but only sketched how sight can influence impressions disproportionately, which you seem to confirm in your Nixon/Kennedy example. Biden looks like thrice lapped and regurgitated dog vomit.

Ah, I see. Yes, to be precise sight can be the more powerful "influencer" as to one's perception. I was thinking is terms of accuracy in accessment. For example, I can tell more about a person by listening to him than by looking at him. I knew a guy in one of my Jiu-Jitsu classes that I had a very dim view of because he was covered with tattoos. After I got to talk to him my impression completely changed and we would become close friends. He owned operated a tattoo parlor and was quite successful driving a Mercedes and owning a nice house in Redondo Beach.

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #327 on: September 30, 2020, 06:07:43 PM »
The question wasn't which group is more threatening. The question was, generally will you condemn White Supremist and Militia groups; an example of the Proud Boys was given, granted a minor player in the right wing extremist movement. But why leave any ambiguity, especially when Trump is always charged with being a racist? Why didn't he just unambiguously and forcefully denounce all White Supremist, Neo-Nazis, and right wing extremist militia
groups?

Never seen someone bobble a softball question with such clueless incompetence. See if I can channel my inner Donald here.

"Will I condemn white supremacists? Of course. What kind of a question is that? Of course I do.

While we're at it, let's condemn racism of any kind. Telling people that their skin color is a problem, like they do in these anti-whiteness classes that people are being forced to attend. That's racist, same way anti-blackness training would be, right? That's why I put a stop to it in our military and federal institutions. Because I care about what you can do, not what you look like.

My opponent thinks your skin color defines everything about you. He doesn't think black people are able to look after themselves. He wants to give them government money. Everyone likes money but he's insulting them. None for whites. None for hispanics. None for anyone else. He wants to give black people loans while denying the same loan to someone who happens to be white. He has different rules for different skin colors. Don't believe me? It's all in writing on his website. Isn't that the definition of racist policy?

Me? I've got the same rules for everyone. That's how you can tell I'm not a racist. Joe Biden has different rules for different skin colors. Kamala Harris was right about him. Joe Biden is a racist and his racist policies are divisive and un-American."


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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #328 on: September 30, 2020, 06:10:56 PM »
Never seen someone bobble a softball question with such clueless incompetence. See if I can channel my inner Donald here.

"Will I condemn white supremacists? Of course. What kind of a question is that? Of course I do.

While we're at it, let's condemn racism of any kind. Telling people that their skin color is a problem, like they do in these anti-whiteness classes that people are being forced to attend. That's racist, same way anti-blackness training would be, right? That's why I put a stop to it in our military and federal institutions. Because I care about what you can do, not what you look like.

My opponent thinks your skin color defines everything about you. He doesn't think black people are able to look after themselves. He wants to give them government money. Everyone likes money but he's insulting them. None for whites. None for hispanics. None for anyone else. He wants to give black people loans while denying the same loan to someone who happens to be white. He has different rules for different skin colors. Don't believe me? It's all in writing on his website. Isn't that the definition of racist policy?

Me? I've got the same rules for everyone. That's how you can tell I'm not a racist. Joe Biden has different rules for different skin colors. Kamala Harris was right about him. Joe Biden is a racist and his racist policies are divisive and un-American."


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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #329 on: September 30, 2020, 06:21:27 PM »
why won't you condemn white supremacy ::) ::)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFyBJ2cgA8B/

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #330 on: September 30, 2020, 06:28:17 PM »
why won't you condemn white supremacy ::) ::)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFyBJ2cgA8B/

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I can’t watch this, it’s just makes my fuckkng blood boil knowing these little fucks are cowards, targeting the weak and knowing if they were caught alone away from their groups they would scream like bitches. 😡

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #331 on: September 30, 2020, 06:29:44 PM »
I can’t watch this, it’s just makes my fuckkng blood boil knowing these little fucks are cowards, targeting the weak and knowing if they were caught alone away from their groups they would scream like bitches. 😡

share it with any white traitors you know

they'll respond back and say whites do the same, then you ask them for video evidence

their response to that will be to block you ;)

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #332 on: September 30, 2020, 06:43:53 PM »

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #334 on: September 30, 2020, 07:37:42 PM »
If President Trump has a big picture strategy for the 3 debates, then he was very effective at detaching Hairplugs Biden from the far left last night and forcing him to take a center-left stance. The far left, the Squad, and the Bernie Bro’s., are going to be pissed about that.

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #335 on: September 30, 2020, 08:22:08 PM »
And so it begins. It’s not that Trump is unhinged and has the a toddler’s ability to control his emotions. No! He turned in an unhinged performance and acted like a toddler throwing a tantrum to “detach” Biden from his supporters. ::)

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #336 on: September 30, 2020, 08:44:31 PM »
The CSPAN poll on Twitter has just closed and it is very reassuring.

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1311134050644615168


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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #337 on: September 30, 2020, 09:03:52 PM »
And so it begins. It’s not that Trump is unhinged and has the a toddler’s ability to control his emotions. No! He turned in an unhinged performance and acted like a toddler throwing a tantrum to “detach” Biden from his supporters. ::)

You’re right, anybody who would support Hairplugs Biden isn’t smart enough to realize that.

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #338 on: September 30, 2020, 10:56:31 PM »
The media would have you believe that everyone wanted this:


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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #339 on: September 30, 2020, 11:45:04 PM »
Next debate moderator?


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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #340 on: October 01, 2020, 02:11:13 AM »
Never seen someone bobble a softball question with such clueless incompetence. See if I can channel my inner Donald here.

"Will I condemn white supremacists? Of course. What kind of a question is that? Of course I do.

While we're at it, let's condemn racism of any kind. Telling people that their skin color is a problem, like they do in these anti-whiteness classes that people are being forced to attend. That's racist, same way anti-blackness training would be, right? That's why I put a stop to it in our military and federal institutions. Because I care about what you can do, not what you look like.

My opponent thinks your skin color defines everything about you. He doesn't think black people are able to look after themselves. He wants to give them government money. Everyone likes money but he's insulting them. None for whites. None for hispanics. None for anyone else. He wants to give black people loans while denying the same loan to someone who happens to be white. He has different rules for different skin colors. Don't believe me? It's all in writing on his website. Isn't that the definition of racist policy?

Me? I've got the same rules for everyone. That's how you can tell I'm not a racist. Joe Biden has different rules for different skin colors. Kamala Harris was right about him. Joe Biden is a racist and his racist policies are divisive and un-American."


One side or the other needs to hire me.

Seriously bro, I so wish Trump had the intellect to say something like this. It would knock creepy Joe out of the park! Instead Trump rambles on about numbers and shit no one cares about.

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #341 on: October 01, 2020, 02:57:37 AM »
He came in unprepared. His entire plan seemed to be to fluster Biden to cause a dementia breakdown. He had done no homework. Couldn't even rattle off a good bullet point list when asked why people should vote for him. Hope he puts some work in prior to #2.

I think what we saw from Biden is as good as Biden gets. The Left's policies are dogshit, and everyone is sick of their rioting, cancel culture, and bizarre identity politics, so winning over moderates like myself shouldn't be too hard

But Trump is committing the same sin the Democrats did in '16. Don't fail to take your opponent seriously.

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #342 on: October 01, 2020, 04:09:35 AM »
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From Biden's website:

https://joebiden.com/climate-plan/

"Biden believes the Green New Deal is a crucial framework for meeting the climate challenges we face. It powerfully captures two basic truths, which are at the core of his plan: (1) the United States urgently needs to embrace greater ambition on an epic scale to meet the scope of this challenge, and (2) our environment and our economy are completely and totally connected."


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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #343 on: October 01, 2020, 04:39:20 AM »

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #344 on: October 01, 2020, 04:52:25 AM »
The Proud Boys are small potatoes, an inconsequential bogeyman to rile up soggy leftists. Now, the Van Buren Boys are a completely different ball of wax, they don't stand down unless you possess a powerful grasp of their mighty shibboleth.


             
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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #345 on: October 01, 2020, 06:43:11 AM »
Sleepy Joe aka the walking contradiction


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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #346 on: October 01, 2020, 07:06:38 AM »
Major credit to Trump for not condemning the Proud Boys.
Why? Because it's a question asked in bad faith, to make him appear weak and subject to pressure. And if he did condemn them would it make people say he's not racist? Of course not, apologizing and groveling will only make these hyenas double down on the attacks. Look at how much Trump sucks up to the Jews, did it stop any attacks? No, he's still a terrible anti-semite and Nazi. He can't do anything to rehab his image in some peoples' eyes, they just want to watch him squirm, never will they love him. Not that I'm a huge Trump fan but I really dislike his haters  :D

I think The Proud boys are pretty ridiculous. Gavin stuffed a dildo up his ass on air and made out with Milo too, major degenerate behavior. :D

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #347 on: October 01, 2020, 07:44:07 AM »
Major credit to Trump for not condemning the Proud Boys.
Why? Because it's a question asked in bad faith, to make him appear weak and subject to pressure. And if he did condemn them would it make people say he's not racist? Of course not, apologizing and groveling will only make these hyenas double down on the attacks.

This.

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #348 on: October 01, 2020, 10:09:26 AM »
I honestly thought the debates were going to be just 90 minutes of racial discussions.  Glad they just made it a small part.

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Re: Debate Night #1 - Trumpvs. Biden - Cleveland Ohio 09-29-20
« Reply #349 on: October 01, 2020, 03:11:03 PM »
One point that Tucker Carlson brought was that when you compare the two candidates actual policy Trump is saying nothing controversial or radical: strong law enforcement and military, lower taxes, keep China in check, open up the economy... pretty much things that most people agree with. With Biden, he and his party wants to literally overhaul our entire political system and culture: get rid of the Electoral college, pack the courts, end the filibuster, defund police, add States like D.C. and Puerto Rico... But it's the difference in tone. Tucker said that with Trump he comes on so strong and forceful that everything seems like code Red. "He can make a wine list sound controversial." With Biden who is much more subdued that his radical proposals just kind of slip by. Tucker called it something like the "allusions of normalcy."