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Dexter at 1:55
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Curry's legs actually shrunk. I see Heath winning.
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Why would they unveil their physiques before the contest?
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#1 - Curry has never impressed me at all. While I do not like Phil - his physique or attitude - he will probably place ahead of Curry. Though I hope he still doesn't win.
#2 - At the 1:38 point of comparing Phil's changes over the years... that last photo looks like a grenade went off in his stomach. It's a bulging fucked up mess.
#3 - They show their condition off prior to the contest so they can have some excuse for bombing on the day of the show... Oh I got sick, I had food poisoning, a hand bag strap damaged my eye, ninjas jumped me... etc.
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Curry makes a shitty Mr. O !!
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Curry makes a shitty Mr. O !!
Flexatron and Phil do too.
Ronnie was funny, created catch phrases and sound bites. Not to mention the thickest muscle on stage.
Jay was the golden boy image. He was likeable and came across well on the cam.
The last three have been shithead bracelet thieves, rapists, and Charles Glass after upping the dose.
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Still no idea how or what rhoden was thinking a month after winning the olympia , has his girlfriend and baby uo on stage with him, he is fucking a figure competitor in a hotel room.
Now he has that lauralie chapados hangin gh off him 24 fuckking 7. She must have shit for brains getting involved with him.
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Why would they unveil their physiques before the contest?
To build excitement and anticipation. I recall getting super excited in the weeks leading to a top pro show. The current crop lack charisma I think. There is no sense of order to follow it's all chaotic or that's how it seems to me.
Bonac is doing the show. Top 3 and maybe a big upset???
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I want Dexter to win and go out in style!
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everything will change by show time,water,carbs,pump,god knows what ese'tricks'wise.
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To build excitement and anticipation. I recall getting super excited in the weeks leading to a top pro show. The current crop lack charisma I think. There is no sense of order to follow it's all chaotic or that's how it seems to me.
Bonac is doing the show. Top 3 and maybe a big upset???
When Dorian released those crazy black and white photos before the Olympia it psyched everyone out. I have never seen that effect again.
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Curry carries himself very well online, as opposed to Phil who is like a toddler. If that is the real Curry or if it's a studied approach, if he might even have been coached on it is another matter.
Curry is extremely good. The one glaring negative is that his muscle has a blurry, thick skinned look. This is hard to fix as it's genetic, though a better look might be achieved temporarily if he gets extremely dehydrated etc.
However, if Phil is as good as when he left it's over and it's hard to think Phil would come back if he's way off, as Dennis and others have said. I'd think he'll pull out over some fake illness in the last days before if it looks like they won't be able to pull it off. All this talk about his stomach is something that's been perpetuated by the fans who heard it somewhere else. Yes, it could be better but it's not as bad as most make it out to be imo. I had Phil beating Rhoden last time out. The stomach is very unlikely to have improved, likely only gotten worse. Breathing control is something he could have worked on. We will see.
Last year I had Hadi winning actually. No one in the top had that hard as nails look.
Ramy is cursed with this "he never nails it" idea. Like I've said here before, I think he's been in excellent shape several times. It's not a guru issue. What if he pretty much nailed it as well as he could already, ever think of that? He hasn't won the O yet because of aesthetic considerations, not conditioning so much, imo.
Look at Hadi vs Curry
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(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1251/9383/files/Franco_Columbu_79af9314-f6b8-4f60-ae3e-c467a1828936.jpg?v=1482942244)
Currys legs are not much better than Franco's
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I want Dexter to win and go out in style!
Dexter is done when he started training with Brad Rowe and that stupid machine that dick head pushes around “to feel the muscles work more” ::)
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Curry carries himself very well online, as opposed to Phil who is like a toddler. If that is the real Curry or if it's a studied approach, if he might even have been coached on it is another matter.
Curry is extremely good. The one glaring negative is that his muscle has a blurry, thick skinned look. This is hard to fix as it's genetic, though a better look might be achieved temporarily if he gets extremely dehydrated etc.
However, if Phil is as good as when he left it's over and it's hard to think Phil would come back if he's way off, as Dennis and others have said. I'd think he'll pull out over some fake illness in the last days before if it looks like they won't be able to pull it off. All this talk about his stomach is something that's been perpetuated by the fans who heard it somewhere else. Yes, it could be better but it's not as bad as most make it out to be imo. I had Phil beating Rhoden last time out. The stomach is very unlikely to have improved, likely only gotten worse. Breathing control is something he could have worked on. We will see.
Last year I had Hadi winning actually. No one in the top had that hard as nails look.
Ramy is cursed with this "he never nails it" idea. Like I've said here before, I think he's been in excellent shape several times. It's not a guru issue. What if he pretty much nailed it as well as he could already, ever think of that? He hasn't won the O yet because of aesthetic considerations, not conditioning so much, imo.
Look at Hadi vs Curry
I always said before this jump in mass last few yrs curry was “blurry curry”
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Dexter is done when he started training with Brad Rowe and that stupid machine that dick head pushes around “to feel the muscles work more” ::)
That may have been a smart idea on Dexter’s part. Maybe his joints were getting beaten up. I remember a couple years ago, it had looked like he had torn a bicep. It was noticeably bruised.
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That may have been a smart idea on Dexter’s part. Maybe his joints were getting beaten up. I remember a couple years ago, it had looked like he had torn a bicep. It was noticeably bruised.
It wasn't torn, he has had a few of these oil filling mishaps occurring. His calves are also permanently damaged from too much Synthol. Lots of pros have these withered gastrocs after abusing their calves. I doubt he trains any different with the "machine".
I tabsolutely certain he is getting paid to be filmed hooked up to the machine. I wonder what that unit costs.
Dexter isn't as good as most say IMO, especially now. But people like the fact that he is old and still at it.
I especially don't think his conditioning is spectacular as everyone says, and NO ONE else is saying this lol.
Compare Dexter's conditioning to Ramy, who "never comes in shape". Is it really as spectacular and superior as they say? Looks real blurry and thick skinned to me lol. Should he beat Ramy?
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... a handbag strap damaged my eye ...
Haha
I remember that.
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It wasn't torn, he has had a few of these oil filling mishaps occurring. His calves are also permanently damaged from too much Synthol. Lots of pros have these withered gastrocs after abusing their calves. I doubt he trains any different with the "machine".
I tabsolutely certain he is getting paid to be filmed hooked up to the machine. I wonder what that unit costs.
Dexter isn't as good as most say IMO, especially now. But people like the fact that he is old and still at it.
I especially don't think his conditioning is spectacular as everyone says, and NO ONE else is saying this lol.
Compare Dexter's conditioning to Ramy, who "never comes in shape". Is it really as spectacular and superior as they say? Looks real blurry and thick skinned to me lol. Should he beat Ramy?
That’s because dexter paid his dues, at this point he’s physique looks tired and worn out. He’s 51, so that’s understandable
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This is Ramy's time.
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This is Ramy's time.
I hope you are right. If Ramy is 90% of his best and judged fairly, he should win.
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Dexter is done when he started training with Brad Rowe and that stupid machine that dick head pushes around “to feel the muscles work more” ::)
What is this "machine" you are talking about.
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Dexter looks pretty big for being 100
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What is this "machine" you are talking about.
Neufit.
An electrical stmulation machine you use while training. Bunch of pros been using it, no doubt for some cash.
It's a bulky unit on wheels lol. Looks expensive.
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yeah, I don't think so...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emed6eVZAVs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emed6eVZAVs)
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It wasn't torn, he has had a few of these oil filling mishaps occurring. His calves are also permanently damaged from too much Synthol. Lots of pros have these withered gastrocs after abusing their calves. I doubt he trains any different with the "machine".
I tabsolutely certain he is getting paid to be filmed hooked up to the machine. I wonder what that unit costs.
Dexter isn't as good as most say IMO, especially now. But people like the fact that he is old and still at it.
I especially don't think his conditioning is spectacular as everyone says, and NO ONE else is saying this lol.
Compare Dexter's conditioning to Ramy, who "never comes in shape". Is it really as spectacular and superior as they say? Looks real blurry and thick skinned to me lol. Should he beat Ramy?
I often wonder about this gastroc issue, as I've run into myself, having never injected anything into that area. My assumption has always been nerve damage due to disc issues in the back.
Ronnie had it noticeably as well, and was definitely trying to cover it up at certain points. His lower legs have practically withered away to nothing now :-\
Doug Brignole, who has been posted about on here before also has it occurring.
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I often wonder about this gastroc issue, as I've run into myself, having never injected anything into that area. My assumption has always been nerve damage due to disc issues in the back.
It might have to do with back issues, I don't know. Just seems to happen a lot to guys who shot up their calves. I could be wrong.
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When Dorian released those crazy black and white photos before the Olympia it psyched everyone out. I have never seen that effect again.
I have that photoset printed and hanging in my garage to this day. I've probably had them since I was 16 and they still blow my mind and remind me to give 100%.
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If it's anywhere close, Dex, should win.
Notice that I said, close. I don't want a sympathy win, but the dude has been Ken Griffey Jr. For the past 20 years.
Shawn Ray was better.
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People complain of politics in bb but they are ready to give Dex a win for "long thong service", a political gift. Not because he's the best, because he's 51 years old! Dex has gotten a large number of 50th birthday gifts already.
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People complain of politics in bb but they are ready to give Dex a win for "long thong service", a political gift. Not because he's the best, because he's 51 years old! Dex has gotten a large number of 50th birthday gifts already.
Isn't That the fun of watching the Olympia?
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Neufit.
An electrical stmulation machine you use while training. Bunch of pros been using it, no doubt for some cash.
It's a bulky unit on wheels lol. Looks expensive.
Same shit gimmick that Dillett used to push back in the Musclemag International and Flex magazines wayyyy back when. Everything old is new again.
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I'm amazed Dexter Jackson is still alive. Guy must have bionic kidneys.
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Same shit gimmick that Dillett used to push back in the Musclemag International and Flex magazines wayyyy back when. Everything old is new again.
Yup. The fleecing of idiots is big business.
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I have that photoset printed and hanging in my garage to this day. I've probably had them since I was 16 and they still blow my mind and remind me to give 100%.
The most impressive pictures of a bodybuilder I have ever seen. It's not just the size but the density hardness quality of the muscle. Zero soft bloat like we see today.
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It might have to do with back issues, I don't know. Just seems to happen a lot to guys who shot up their calves. I could be wrong.
That oil has to kill muscle tissue. Maybe that's what we see in these deteriorations. Surprised there isn't more amputations.
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Same shit gimmick that Dillett used to push back in the Musclemag International and Flex magazines wayyyy back when. Everything old is new again.
Bruce Lee was advertising it back in the 70's.
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Dex is a first ballot Hall of Famer in the bodybuilding
World. People make jokes like he isn't shit etc...
Top 10 of all time. You could make an argument for top five.
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It might have to do with back issues, I don't know. Just seems to happen a lot to guys who shot up their calves. I could be wrong.
Another possibility often overlooked is piriformis syndrome. Hypertrophy of the piriformis muscle in the glutes can cause permanent impingement on the sciatic nerve and cause muscle weakness in the legs- and especially the calf. It is often mistaken for sciatica which originates in the spine. I've had it and it is brutal. At first I was told to stretch the muscle - and that did nothing. The solution was to contract it to shorten it. I now do a number of body weight exercises that eliminate the pain.
I have read of some track cyclists actually having surgery to cut some of the piriformis muscles to take pressure off the sciatic nerve. I can imagine a bodybuilder working the glutes too much can get the same syndrome.
https://www.piriformis-pain.com/piriformis-weak-leg/ (https://www.piriformis-pain.com/piriformis-weak-leg/)
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It might have to do with back issues, I don't know. Just seems to happen a lot to guys who shot up their calves. I could be wrong.
Same thing seems to have happened to Dennis Wolf's calves too.
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That oil has to kill muscle tissue. Maybe that's what we see in these deteriorations. Surprised there isn't more amputations.
https://www.ergo-log.com/synthol-demolishes-muscle-tissue.html
There does seem to be evidence for that. But it doesn't seem to happen in all cases or even maybe in most cases. Seems all pros use Synthol to some extent. Jay certainly did in his arms and I suspect Phil does in his delts. But what is so destructive about MCT oil per se? Whether a pro uses Synthol or not he is certainly injecting tons of oil from gear alone. One of the issues a pro bber has is running out of locations to injected all that gear. Why waste those areas on "dead oil". Does MCT oil have some special muscle enhancing effect that say, Grape Seed or Cotton Seed oil does not? If it does then why not just brew gear with MCT oil?
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Dex is a first ballot Hall of Famer in the bodybuilding
World. People make jokes like he isn't shit etc...
Top 10 of all time. You could make an argument for top five.
Though Dex was never a dominating bber in the way Arnold, Haney, Dorian, and Coleman was, taking his whole career into account he is one of the greatest bbers that has ever lived. I don't think there will ever be another bber that has accomplished as much as he has.
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People complain of politics in bb but they are ready to give Dex a win for "long thong service", a political gift. Not because he's the best, because he's 51 years old! Dex has gotten a large number of 50th birthday gifts already.
Long Thong Service? Copyright that shit. It could be a restaurant, massage parlor, or just a shitty dry cleaning establishment.
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Though Dex was never a dominating bber in the way Arnold, Haney, Dorian, and Coleman was, taking his whole career into account he is one of the greatest bbers that has ever lived. I don't think there will ever be another bber that has accomplished as much as he has.
Thank you for that post, Pellius. I'm not sure if enough people know of his career.
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It might have to do with back issues, I don't know. Just seems to happen a lot to guys who shot up their calves. I could be wrong.
I had back issues this summer , real bad sciatica, my calf literally stopped working, I couldnt lift my heel off the floor on that one leg, I lost a shit load of size on my calf, its coming back but I dont think it will ever be as good as it used to be
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Dex is a first ballot Hall of Famer in the bodybuilding
World. People make jokes like he isn't shit etc...
Top 10 of all time. You could make an argument for top five.
Top 5 haha get the fuck out of here
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Though Dex was never a dominating bber in the way Arnold, Haney, Dorian, and Coleman was, taking his whole career into account he is one of the greatest bbers that has ever lived. I don't think there will ever be another bber that has accomplished as much as he has.
I agree, but dexter has gotten the leisure of competing against the worse era in bbing. When rhoden and curry are both O winners, something is wrong
Still not taking anything away from dexter especially competing at a high level in your early 50’s
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Why waste those areas on "dead oil". Does MCT oil have some special muscle enhancing effect that say, Grape Seed or Cotton Seed oil does not? If it does then why not just brew gear with MCT oil?
From what I've read it's metabolized slower so it sits longer in the muscle. Plus some Synthol products contain silica to extend it further, IIRC.
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https://www.ergo-log.com/synthol-demolishes-muscle-tissue.html
There does seem to be evidence for that. But it doesn't seem to happen in all cases or even maybe in most cases. Seems all pros use Synthol to some extent. Jay certainly did in his arms and I suspect Phil does in his delts. But what is so destructive about MCT oil per se? Whether a pro uses Synthol or not he is certainly injecting tons of oil from gear alone. One of the issues a pro bber has is running out of locations to injected all that gear. Why waste those areas on "dead oil". Does MCT oil have some special muscle enhancing effect that say, Grape Seed or Cotton Seed oil does not? If it does then why not just brew gear with MCT oil?
Screw synthol u have the body and genetics that you have messing around with oils and all this BS is a big reason bbing has been on the decline. I mean we all remember Boston Loyd and his gear shooting Bonanza on youtube. THATS NOT BODYBUILDING. I don't care if a small group of idiots think otherwise. And that whole scene has made this sport look incredibly bad.
Anyway as per the synthol calf thing I was always told never shoot calves as they are full of veins and nerves. Go introducing a bolus of thick oil that takes months to clear if ever creating pressure on said nerves and blood vessels and expect the worst.
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Another possibility often overlooked is piriformis syndrome. Hypertrophy of the piriformis muscle in the glutes can cause permanent impingement on the sciatic nerve and cause muscle weakness in the legs- and especially the calf. It is often mistaken for sciatica which originates in the spine. I've had it and it is brutal. At first I was told to stretch the muscle - and that did nothing. The solution was to contract it to shorten it. I now do a number of body weight exercises that eliminate the pain.
I have read of some track cyclists actually having surgery to cut some of the piriformis muscles to take pressure off the sciatic nerve. I can imagine a bodybuilder working the glutes too much can get the same syndrome.
https://www.piriformis-pain.com/piriformis-weak-leg/ (https://www.piriformis-pain.com/piriformis-weak-leg/)
Did you actually have atrophy in the calves when this occurred? Not familiar with this syndrome, and it’s interesting to consider.
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Did you actually have atrophy in the calves when this occurred? Not familiar with this syndrome, and it’s interesting to consider.
When it flared up I couldn't even do a calf raise because my leg felt so weak. Fortunately I have a friend who is a physical therapist and they knew right away what it was. i was pain free after a few weeks. So I didn't lose any muscle- but I can see how a chronic case would lead to atrophy.
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From what I've read it's metabolized slower so it sits longer in the muscle. Plus some Synthol products contain silica to extend it further, IIRC.
Sits longer? Why? It's a medium chain fat? But, nonetheless, how much longer? A pro is injecting multiple times with multiple ccs every day. They always have oil in their muscles. How do they have room for Synthol? If they need silica to promote more swelling why don't they make gear using Synthol oil, i.e., MCT.
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Sits longer? Why? It's a medium chain fat? But, nonetheless, how much longer? A pro is injecting multiple times with multiple ccs every day. They always have oil in their muscles. How do they have room for Synthol? If they need silica to promote more swelling why don't they make gear using Synthol oil, i.e., MCT.
I'm not sure how much longer but that claim is frequently made, though now that I think about it, others have said MCT oil actually absorbs pretty fast.
See for example:
https://synthetek.com/en/the-science-behind-syntherol/
But looking at logs at forums you really, really have to work for it, often with pretty small results. To put that amount of gear into muscles, especially several at a time, would have you taking a ton of gear. Some don't get much out of Synthol apparently. Dusty Hanshaw said he got a lot out of site injects of regulargear into his arms but didn't get anything out of delt injects
I wonder if small amounts of especially unesterified steroids might cause a small local effect due to higher saturation in the muscle injected, though you frequently read recommendations not to combine Synthol (mct) with regular gear, why exactly, I don't know.
I just heard one pro discussing another pro, how he was doing maybe 5 grams of gear a week but in addition shooting Synthol all day long all over his body. This pro I couldn't really tell was a Synthol freak except for his delts which look a bit pointy in certain poses.
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I'm not sure how much longer but that claim is frequently made, though now that I think about it, others have said MCT oil actually absorbs pretty fast.
See for example:
https://synthetek.com/en/the-science-behind-syntherol/
But looking at logs at forums you really, really have to work for it, often with pretty small results. To put that amount of gear into muscles, especially several at a time, would have you taking a ton of gear. Some don't get much out of Synthol apparently. Dusty Hanshaw said he got a lot out of site injects of regulargear into his arms but didn't get anything out of delt injects
I wonder if small amounts of especially unesterified steroids might cause a small local effect due to higher saturation in the muscle injected, though you frequently read recommendations not to combine Synthol (mct) with regular gear, why exactly, I don't know.
I just heard one pro discussing another pro, how he was doing maybe 5 grams of gear a week but in addition shooting Synthol all day long all over his body. This pro I couldn't really tell was a Synthol freak except for his delts which look a bit pointy in certain poses.
Great post, love this sorta stuff! Who is the pro? Loads of them got that pointy delts look now.
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Did you actually have atrophy in the calves when this occurred? Not familiar with this syndrome, and it’s interesting to consider.
I did...
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Curry looks surprisingly good, improved over last year. Looks to be in shape from what I can tell, the Livestream has absolute shit resolution. His legs actually got quite a bit better. Good for him.
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Curry looks surprisingly good, improved over last year. Looks to be in shape from what I can tell, the Livestream has absolute shit resolution. His legs actually got quite a bit better. Good for him.
What pics are you referring to?
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What pics are you referring to?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=670212.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=670212.0)
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What pics are you referring to?
I did say Livestream I could be mistaken.
Anyway the Livestream was so terrible it reminded me of webcaming but back when we only had dialup modems. Horrid.
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I see zero improvement in Curry's legs. Overall, he actually looks small compared to Phil. Rami & Hadi should be 1 & 2. Akim looks great. Bonac looks like his legs came back up, but he looks blockier and his arms seem smaller. I'd have Bonac and Heath fighting for 5th & 6th.
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I see zero improvement in Curry's legs. Overall, he actually looks small compared to Phil. Rami & Hadi should be 1 & 2. Akim looks great. Bonac looks like his legs came back up, but he looks blockier and his arms seem smaller. I'd have Bonac and Heath fighting for 5th & 6th.
Bonacs midsection seems I dunno, more present than before? It kept drawing my attention.
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I did say Livestream I could be mistaken.
Anyway the Livestream was so terrible it reminded me of webcaming but back when we only had dialup modems. Horrid.
I think it was deleted from the thread. I don't see it posted. I did get some content on youtube. With clearer pics Ramy looks even better. As long as he can hold on to his condition for the night show this is finally his year.
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I think it was deleted from the thread. I don't see it posted. I did get some content on youtube. With clearer pics Ramy looks even better. As long as he can hold on to his condition for the night show this is finally his year.
Ramy dwarfs everyone on stage. Phil's midsection is the worst I've ever seen on an Olympia stage. He better not win.
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Curry's legs actually shrunk. I see Heath winning.
Heath is dethroning Curry :-[
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Heath is dethroning Curry :-[
Nope.