Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: hardgainerj on January 10, 2021, 05:20:45 PM

Title: the future belongs to china
Post by: hardgainerj on January 10, 2021, 05:20:45 PM
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/new-light-based-quantum-computer-jiuzhang-supremacy

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature23655

Chingping allocated $10 billion in R&D meanwhile America's budget is $1 billion ; budget cuts for NASA, Los Alamos, etc

Radical political agendas and Trump's miscalculated approach of America's greatest threat is securing its fate
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 10, 2021, 05:28:53 PM
Bejing Biden and Cameltoe Harris will turn everything around! They're gonna kick covids ass, get the economy roaring and colonize Mars by the summer of 2022. Whats your problem?

You've been reported. 
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: hardgainerj on January 10, 2021, 05:37:04 PM
Bejing Biden and Cameltoe Harris will turn everything around! They're gonna kick covids ass, get the economy roaring and colonize Mars by the summer of 2022. Whats your problem?

You've been reported.
I'm not so sure about Harris she is half pajeet and has stated to give her cousins in India a pathway so she might be more aligned with India than China. one thing is for sure they're both good goyim just like the current president $500 million to America's greatest ally who has sold American hardware to China
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2021, 09:29:13 PM
I'm not so sure about Harris she is half pajeet and has stated to give her cousins in India a pathway so she might be more aligned with India than China. one thing is for sure they're both good goyim just like the current president $500 million to America's greatest ally who has sold American hardware to China

You've been de-personed.

PS - what's with $500 million to Israel, but $1.3 billion to Egypt?  ???  Is the member of congress who wrote that part of the "COVID Relief Bill" a Big Ramy fan?
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 11, 2021, 12:02:54 AM
You've been de-personed.

what does that mean?
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: hardgainerj on January 11, 2021, 12:57:07 AM
You've been de-personed.

PS - what's with $500 million to Israel, but $1.3 billion to Egypt?  ???  Is the member of congress who wrote that part of the "COVID Relief Bill" a Big Ramy fan?
the 500M might be an installment of the 38 billion setup by obamer
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 11, 2021, 03:39:29 AM
Bunch of faggits USA is doomed...
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 11, 2021, 03:44:00 AM
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/new-light-based-quantum-computer-jiuzhang-supremacy

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature23655

Chingping allocated $10 billion in R&D meanwhile America's budget is $1 billion ; budget cuts for NASA, Los Alamos, etc

Radical liberal politics and Trump's miscalculated approach of America's greatest threat is securing its fate
1)  Trump has been saying China was the greatest threat since the day he announced his candidacy.

2)  While China has some advantages for the future, they have massive problems to deal with in the future as well.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: fredrollon on January 11, 2021, 04:14:56 AM


The economies of China and the US are intertwined and the US still has control of strategic energy resources such as oil and gas, in the Middle East, and cobalt in the Congo.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Kwon on January 11, 2021, 04:18:00 AM

The economies of China and the US are intertwined and the US still has control of strategic energy resources such as oil and gas, in the Middle East, and cobalt in the Congo.

What does China control in Africa?
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: oldgolds on January 11, 2021, 05:00:00 AM
The Chinese are not innovators, they are copycats.
That's why they steal billions of dollars in technology from the US every year.
The US has the greatest minds and innovation on the planet and will continue to lead the World.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: DooM_ on January 11, 2021, 05:13:09 AM
americans have themselves to thank for this . . .
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: hardgainerj on January 11, 2021, 05:45:09 AM
1)  Trump has been saying China was the greatest threat since the day he announced his candidacy.

2)  While China has some advantages for the future, they have massive problems to deal with in the future as well.
Trump approach inadvertently made China stronger around the globe.

For example the TPP led to the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership

I don't recall Trump pushing for STEM
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: hardgainerj on January 11, 2021, 05:50:36 AM
The Chinese are not innovators, they are copycats.
That's why they steal billions of dollars in technology from the US every year.
The US has the greatest minds and innovation on the planet and will continue to lead the World.
That is true but the CCP is not concerned with regulations when it comes to technological advancements such is the case in America
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: hardgainerj on January 11, 2021, 06:00:59 AM
What does China control in Africa?
China has many contracts in Africa and gave loans that will never be paid back
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: hardgainerj on January 11, 2021, 06:06:03 AM
americans have themselves to thank for this . . .
everybody thought capitalism would change China but nobody understood Han style communism and Han nationalism
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: fredrollon on January 11, 2021, 06:18:09 AM
What does China control in Africa?

Looking it up, China is buying up farmland in Africa, buys manganese for steel from South Africa and imports oil from Nigeria and South Sudan.

As for control- maybe South Sudan?  The South Sudanese have built a pipeline to port city of Djibouti on the Red Sea, to export their oil .

The Chinese have stationed troops in Djibouti. Djibouti is China's first overseas military base, presumably set up to safeguard the supply of oil from South Sudan

(https://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/58411000/gif/_58411405_south_sudan304x235.gif)

(https://im-media.voltron.voanews.com/Drupal/01live-166/styles/892x501/s3/2019-04/0C91CF56-DB11-4B8A-A52E-59553A8E18FB.jpg?itok=kchjSTjF)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16969483 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16969483)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/in-strategic-djibouti-a-microcosm-of-chinas-growing-foothold-in-africa/2019/12/29/a6e664ea-beab-11e9-a8b0-7ed8a0d5dc5d_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/in-strategic-djibouti-a-microcosm-of-chinas-growing-foothold-in-africa/2019/12/29/a6e664ea-beab-11e9-a8b0-7ed8a0d5dc5d_story.html)


Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 11, 2021, 06:24:01 AM
I go out of my way to avoid buying Chinese crappola any way imaginable.  Communist pos. 
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Griffith on January 11, 2021, 07:15:35 AM
What does China control in Africa?

China has police stations with their own policeman in South Africa.

Mandarin was also introduced as a subject in schools as the government tries to build closer ties with the Communist dictatorship.

They also control some mines in Zimbabwe as well as other projects. The local workers are apparently not treated well by the Chinese, one recently shot a worker.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: MAXX on January 11, 2021, 07:24:00 AM
I go out of my way to avoid buying Chinese crappola any way imaginable.  Communist pos.
Problem is most things are made manufactured in China today. Even "quality" brands. Like Iphone for example. Even german car brands are majority owned by China these days.

I bought a Dewalt drill few months ago because I figured I needed a quality one for once. And when I got it ofc.. "Made in China" stamp on it...

Just saying... Hard to avoid in this day... But if you can, do so.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 11, 2021, 07:26:20 AM
Problem is most things are made manufactured in China today. Even "quality" brands. Like Iphone for example. Even german car brands are majority owned by China these days.

I bought a Dewalt drill few months ago because I figured I needed a quality one for once. And when I got it ofc.. "Made in China" stamp on it...

Just saying... Hard to avoid in this day... But if you can, do so.

I hear you.  Exactly.  I spend time researching most stuff before buying lately.   F these communist jackals.   They steal our tech. 
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Kwon on January 11, 2021, 07:56:10 AM
China has police stations with their own policeman in South Africa.

Mandarin was also introduced as a subject in schools as the government tries to build closer ties with the Communist dictatorship.

They also control some mines in Zimbabwe as well as other projects. The local workers are apparently not treated well by the Chinese, one recently shot a worker.

Didnt know that! YIKES
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 11, 2021, 08:59:02 AM
China has many contracts in Africa and gave loans that will never be paid back
Are you saying Nigerians can't be trusted?
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 11, 2021, 09:17:33 AM
Dog on the menu in 3-2-1...
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: funk51 on January 11, 2021, 09:23:45 AM
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 11, 2021, 09:29:24 AM
Problem is most things are made manufactured in China today. Even "quality" brands. Like Iphone for example. Even german car brands are majority owned by China these days.

I bought a Dewalt drill few months ago because I figured I needed a quality one for once. And when I got it ofc.. "Made in China" stamp on it...

Just saying... Hard to avoid in this day... But if you can, do so.


People talk a good game but at the end of the day they shop price. No one’s going to pay three times as much for that drill made by a fat American union worker.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: oldgolds on January 11, 2021, 03:24:53 PM

People talk a good game but at the end of the day they shop price. No one’s going to pay three times as much for that drill made by a fat American union worker.




People WILL pay significantly more for a quality made product and U.S made products are generally of a much higher quality than the Chinese crap. Certain cultures like China  and Mexico just don't  have the instinct  to produce  high quality. They do things half-assed for some reason. Go to their countries and look around. Everything is poor quality and made to last for a short time.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 11, 2021, 03:30:47 PM



People WILL pay significantly more for a quality made product and U.S made products are generally of a much higher quality than the Chinese crap. Certain cultures like China  and Mexico just don't  have the instinct  to produce  high quality. They do things half-assed for some reason. Go to their countries and look around. Everything is poor quality and made to last for a short time.

Exactly.   I have zero issue paying more for made in USA
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: J. Richards on January 11, 2021, 04:17:00 PM
maybe the right phrase would be pride of workmanship...  still a few folks around that still have it... over there... it's just the same thing... every day... do it or else type work...  make the same as every other "slave" ... zero incentive to do better .... 
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: IroNat on January 11, 2021, 04:50:41 PM
Quality of production is determined by the manufacturer's specs for the job.

The Chinese make quality and they make crap, same as American workers.

Americans make crap too.  I've bought Made In USA stuff that has been junk.

Most of the parts in the American cars are made overseas now.

The majority of Ford Truck parts are made either in Mexico or other countries.

Lack of foreign competition prior to Japan becoming a big player just made American car companies fat and lazy and they made junk.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Tapeworm on January 11, 2021, 06:20:53 PM
I hear you.  Exactly.  I spend time researching most stuff before buying lately.   F these communist jackals.   They steal our tech.

Our corporations saw the profit and couldn't move manufacturing overseas fast enough. Our market rewared them for it and punished those who didn't export jobs. Our government instituted trade policies at the behest of industry which made it all sweet and easy. The enemy is within.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 11, 2021, 06:25:26 PM
What does China control in Africa?

Ports, mines and other natural resources.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 11, 2021, 06:27:29 PM
Problem is most things are made manufactured in China today. Even "quality" brands. Like Iphone for example. Even german car brands are majority owned by China these days.

I bought a Dewalt drill few months ago because I figured I needed a quality one for once. And when I got it ofc.. "Made in China" stamp on it...

Just saying... Hard to avoid in this day... But if you can, do so.

I'm.orettybsure the parts for the phones are made in China but they are assembled in Germany.  At least used to be,I think.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 13, 2021, 06:18:31 AM



People WILL pay significantly more for a quality made product and U.S made products are generally of a much higher quality than the Chinese crap. Certain cultures like China  and Mexico just don't  have the instinct  to produce  high quality. They do things half-assed for some reason. Go to their countries and look around. Everything is poor quality and made to last for a short time.


Agreed, but average buying power is going to go WAY down by design. The plan is to put the world on parity for standard of living. That means the USA and Europe must crumble.

Also consider that most people under 30 are just fine selling the country to communists for one $2000 check.  :'(
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 13, 2021, 06:34:18 AM
My favorite Chinese person:

Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 13, 2021, 07:49:24 AM
As long as the Biden family and key Democrats get their cut they will let China do what ever they want to steal the US's wealth.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: TonyAlva on January 13, 2021, 07:50:49 AM
.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: hardgainerj on February 01, 2021, 06:56:29 AM
https://apnews.com/article/myanmar-coup-aung-san-suu-kyi-dda3d013897e14d5d0bd44d19eac9cd1
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: hardgainerj on February 01, 2021, 07:42:43 AM
Vietnam
Japan
South Korea
(Possibly) Thailand

Will be the only ones to stand against the CCP. Things will get very interesting when China finally gets fed up of formalities with Taiwan
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: mphgrove on February 01, 2021, 08:12:25 AM
The Chinese are not innovators, they are copycats.
That's why they steal billions of dollars in technology from the US every year.
The US has the greatest minds and innovation on the planet and will continue to lead the World.

China also has no real cultural influence (so far). Who around the world rushes to Chinese movies or can’t wait to listen to Chinese music or read Chinese literature? Who is rushing to move to China? The economic domination is important, but great nations and empires (Rome, Great Britain, France, the United States, even Persia and Turkey/Ottomans) always have also dominated culturally.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Griffith on February 01, 2021, 10:23:52 AM
China also has no real cultural influence (so far). Who around the world rushes to Chinese movies or can’t wait to listen to Chinese music or read Chinese literature? Who is rushing to move to China? The economic domination is important, but great nations and empires (Rome, Great Britain, France, the United States, even Persia and Turkey/Ottomans) always have also dominated culturally.

South Korea and Japan probably have the biggest cultural influences in the region, especially South Korea. K-pop, Korean TV dramas and movies are very popular. K-pop is also probably the biggest influence on fashion for younger people, especially in South-East Asia.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 01, 2021, 11:02:45 AM
China also has no real cultural influence (so far). Who around the world rushes to Chinese movies or can’t wait to listen to Chinese music or read Chinese literature? Who is rushing to move to China? The economic domination is important, but great nations and empires (Rome, Great Britain, France, the United States, even Persia and Turkey/Ottomans) always have also dominated culturally.
They might win by losing this battle.  The rest of the world is busy "diversifying" to the point of having no culture or fighting different cultures within their borders.  China does not have this problem.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: hardgainerj on February 01, 2021, 11:46:05 AM
China also has no real cultural influence (so far). Who around the world rushes to Chinese movies or can’t wait to listen to Chinese music or read Chinese literature? Who is rushing to move to China? The economic domination is important, but great nations and empires (Rome, Great Britain, France, the United States, even Persia and Turkey/Ottomans) always have also dominated culturally.
Mandarin especially the CCP standard (Beijing) is fantastically ugly but then again Korean ain't pretty
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: mphgrove on February 01, 2021, 12:28:21 PM
They might win by losing this battle.  The rest of the world is busy "diversifying" to the point of having no culture or fighting different cultures within their borders.  China does not have this problem.

I veer liberal more than conservative but you make an interesting point in light of history. Many historians might argue that the Roman Empire fell apart, to some extent, as a result of “over diversification”. France would be an example of a dominant culture that always maintained a tight homogenous rein on what it meant to be French, and now they are struggling. They are dealing with “universal” French identity versus “diversity”. So you make an interesting point.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: mac33 on February 01, 2021, 12:33:52 PM

People talk a good game but at the end of the day they shop price. No one’s going to pay three times as much for that drill made by a fat American union worker.

China quality of products overall is crap, of course you can get good items too, but it is more of an exception compared to US made items...
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: mphgrove on February 01, 2021, 12:38:13 PM
My favorite Chinese person:

Musclecenter is an example of a guy who would not win the show but who people would say, “damn that guy looks good.”
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 01, 2021, 01:15:18 PM
I veer liberal more than conservative but you make an interesting point in light of history. Many historians might argue that the Roman Empire fell apart, to some extent, as a result of “over diversification”. France would be an example of a dominant culture that always maintained a tight homogenous rein on what it meant to be French, and now they are struggling. They are dealing with “universal” French identity versus “diversity”. So you make an interesting point.
The Chinese are very restrictive of who they let in but are exporting a lot of their citizens to other countries, especially African nations.  The expats live together in "Chinatown" in every country and keep their Chinese culture.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: mphgrove on February 01, 2021, 02:20:39 PM
The Chinese are very restrictive of who they let in but are exporting a lot of their citizens to other countries, especially African nations.  The expats live together in "Chinatown" in every country and keep their Chinese culture.

In Egypt, I read that they are the women’s kinky lingerie sales people and they own those stores. Muslim men don’t want other men to have anything to do with this, and Muslim women would never be allowed to do this job, but the Chinese have weaseled right in because the men still want their women to own these products. The Chinese are very clever at finding a niche, but I still say they have no real cultural influence, simply economic.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: MAXX on February 01, 2021, 02:37:07 PM
Quality of production is determined by the manufacturer's specs for the job.

The Chinese make quality and they make crap, same as American workers.

Americans make crap too.  I've bought Made In USA stuff that has been junk.

Most of the parts in the American cars are made overseas now.

The majority of Ford Truck parts are made either in Mexico or other countries.

Lack of foreign competition prior to Japan becoming a big player just made American car companies fat and lazy and they made junk.
that is true

it is quite amazing how different the chinese are from the japanese.

Japanese have pride and stand for quality and perfection of their work in general. The Chinese are like complete opposite in their mindset and approach to work.

I mean they are basically the same race more or less or am I wrong in that? Japanese avg IQ is about 2 points higher if that makes any difference.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2021, 02:48:28 PM
that is true

it is quite amazing how different the chinese are from the japanese.

Japanese have pride and stand for quality and perfection of their work in general. The Chinese are like complete opposite in their mindset and approach to work.

I mean they are basically the same race more or less or am I wrong in that? Japanese avg IQ is about 2 points higher if that makes any difference.

The Japanese are legions better than the chinks
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: mphgrove on February 01, 2021, 02:48:56 PM
that is true

it is quite amazing how different the chinese are from the japanese.

Japanese have pride and stand for quality and perfection of their work in general. The Chinese are like complete opposite in their mindset and approach to work.

I mean they are basically the same race more or less or am I wrong in that? Japanese avg IQ is about 2 points higher if that makes any difference.



No love lost between those two peoples. That is for sure. But the bloom is off the rise in Japan these days. Ongoing stagnant economy.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: MAXX on February 01, 2021, 02:50:30 PM
The Japanese are legions better than the chinks
Yeah I know but I mean what makes the difference. I mean a jap from a chink is probably genetically like the difference of a brit from a scott or a swede from a dane
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: GymnJuice on February 01, 2021, 04:30:33 PM
that is true

it is quite amazing how different the chinese are from the japanese.

Japanese have pride and stand for quality and perfection of their work in general. The Chinese are like complete opposite in their mindset and approach to work.

I mean they are basically the same race more or less or am I wrong in that? Japanese avg IQ is about 2 points higher if that makes any difference.

Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 02, 2021, 10:43:32 AM
The Japanese are legions better than the chinks
Yes, they are but there are fewer of them.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Griffith on February 02, 2021, 11:20:49 AM
Japan has some cultural impact in the West with their video games and anime TV shows and manga comics, especially with younger people and kids.

And their contribution to console gaming has been huge, with Nintendo, Sega and now Sony. The PSX made gaming ‘cool’ and brought it to the mainstream.

In the early 90’s, it was still viewed as more for kids and PC gaming was still a niche market with computers not really designed for gaming. Console games had better graphics than PC until graphics cards were developed specifically for gaming and I think console games helped inspire this due to the increasing market.

Now the games industry is bigger than the film industry.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 02, 2021, 11:30:44 AM
Yes, they are but there are fewer of them.

Yup.  Japanese, at least in my experience, have a much richer sense of honor, pride, and respect. 

Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: funk51 on February 02, 2021, 11:59:42 AM
Trump's trade war on China was a failure in every possible way
Dion Rabouin
Dion Rabouin, author of Markets
Illustration of a $100 bill with failed ink stamps on top
Illustration: Eniola Odetunde/Axios

The Biden administration plans to review the phase one U.S.-China trade deal, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said on Friday. Based on publicly available data, it's hard to imagine they'll find anything other than a debacle.

Driving the news: China isn't even close to fulfilling its end of the deal — having come up 42% short of its commitment, Chad Bown, a fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, reported late last week.

The phase one deal was meant to be the Trump administration's reward for U.S. farmers, manufacturers and other business owners who had been bludgeoned by Trump's tax on American businesses via the trade war's tariffs.
What was supposed to happen: The trade war was billed as a plan to bring China to its knees by choking off the all-important American market with 25% tariffs on many imports that would rein in the U.S. trade deficit, boost American exports and slow China's rise as a global superpower.

What really happened: "The trade war with China hurt the US economy and failed to achieve major policy goals," a recent study commissioned by the U.S.-China Business Council argues, finding that the trade war reduced economic growth and cost the U.S. 245,000 jobs.

Last year, the U.S. trade deficit widened to its largest on record. In the fourth quarter, the U.S. goods trade deficit hit its highest share of GDP since 2012 and the U.S. current account deficit jumped to its highest level in more than 12 years in the third quarter.
Foreign direct investment to the U.S. fell 49% in 2020 — outpacing the overall global decrease of 42%.
These trends had all been moving in this direction since 2017, and were accelerated by the coronavirus pandemic as Trump refused to remove tariffs despite their strain on businesses.
The big picture: "The tariffs forced American companies to accept lower profit margins, cut wages and jobs for U.S. workers, defer potential wage hikes or expansions, and raise prices for American consumers or companies," analysts at Brookings noted in August.

The other side: China's trade surplus last year hit a record $535 billion, up 27% from 2019. Exports rose 21.1% in dollar terms in November year over year and 18.1% in December from a year earlier, touching an all-time high.

For the full year, the trade surplus with the U.S. was $317 billion, 7% higher than in 2019.
Foreign direct investment to China rose 4% to $163 billion.

Reproduced from Peterson Institute for International Economics; Chart: Axios Visuals
Most economists agree that trade deficits don't actually hurt an economy. And while the U.S. trade deficit with China did decrease somewhat during Trump's time in office, the deficit increased with other countries and overall.

Meanwhile, China's trade surplus and its trade with other countries increased.
The bottom line: In addition to hurting U.S. businesses and workers, tariffs also drive up prices, and inflation expectations are starting to rise.

The U.S. current account deficit also is helping further weigh down the value of the dollar, economists say, another factor that could boost inflation.
Manufacturers, including Whirlpool and Polaris, have recently said they are struggling to meet consumer demand due to supply-chain constraints and coronavirus-related safety measures — both of which are pushing up costs.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Iron-Muscle on February 02, 2021, 12:31:30 PM
this guy ^ has sever tds

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JwDqxAye90M/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: mphgrove on February 02, 2021, 02:05:27 PM
Here is a Chinese analyst from China giving his view on why, unlike Japan, China has been unable to export its culture. Main reason: absence of freedom stifles creativity. He does add that, although there aren’t much in the way of cultural exports to U.S. or Europe, there are beginning to be some exports to other places like India and Africa but he doesn’t give examples so I remain doubtful (maybe Chinese movies to those regions?)

https://www.nanjingmarketinggroup.com/blog/chinese-cultural-exports-in-the-west
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 03, 2021, 04:11:26 AM
Here is a Chinese analyst from China giving his view on why, unlike Japan, China has been unable to export its culture. Main reason: absence of freedom stifles creativity. He does add that, although there aren’t much in the way of cultural exports to U.S. or Europe, there are beginning to be some exports to other places like India and Africa but he doesn’t give examples so I remain doubtful (maybe Chinese movies to those regions?)

https://www.nanjingmarketinggroup.com/blog/chinese-cultural-exports-in-the-west
Chinese restaurants?
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Kwon on February 03, 2021, 04:35:50 AM
Here is a Chinese analyst from China giving his view on why, unlike Japan, China has been unable to export its culture. Main reason: absence of freedom stifles creativity. He does add that, although there aren’t much in the way of cultural exports to U.S. or Europe, there are beginning to be some exports to other places like India and Africa but he doesn’t give examples so I remain doubtful (maybe Chinese movies to those regions?)

https://www.nanjingmarketinggroup.com/blog/chinese-cultural-exports-in-the-west

Kung fu movies?


Jackie Chan movies?

Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 03, 2021, 04:50:30 AM
Kung fu movies?


Jackie Chan movies?
Mail order brides?
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Kwon on February 03, 2021, 04:54:09 AM
Mail order brides?

A popular thing in Swe for older men is to get gals from Thailand!

The older ladies get young bucks from Gambia :D
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: mphgrove on February 03, 2021, 05:00:44 AM
Chinese restaurants?

Well yes, come to think of it. Chinese restaurants and Chinese food in general are a HUGE and SUCCESSFUL cultural export (of sorts). Not sure exactly how to process that exactly in terms of “cultural” domination. Is that as important as Japanese Anime or American music or French literature? Probably I guess.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 03, 2021, 05:00:52 AM
A popular thing in Swe for older men is to get gals from Thailand!

The older ladies get young bucks from Gambia :D
The movie  Dennis  is about a bodybuilder from Denmark who goes to Thailand and gets a wife.  Good movie.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 03, 2021, 05:02:00 AM
Well yes, come to think of it. Chinese restaurants and Chinese food in general are a HUGE and SUCCESSFUL cultural export (of sorts). Not sure exactly how to process that exactly in terms of “cultural” domination. Is that as important as Japanese Anime or American music or French literature? Probably I guess.
The Chinese could poison the food and kill millions of Americans. ;D
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: mphgrove on February 03, 2021, 05:45:14 AM
The Chinese could poison the food and kill millions of Americans. ;D

Tender squab = pigeon (already)
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: mphgrove on February 03, 2021, 06:02:54 AM
Kung fu movies?


Jackie Chan movies?

Is there as much of that going on today as several decades ago? Movies are definitely a cultural export. Just not familiar enough here to know about this, but want to give credit where credit is due. China has a HUGE movie industry (to serve its 2 billion people). Also dubbed and exported to others?
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Griffith on February 03, 2021, 06:14:10 AM
Kung fu movies?


Jackie Chan movies?

Most of them were from Hong Kong.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Kwon on February 03, 2021, 06:26:53 AM
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: mphgrove on February 03, 2021, 08:07:08 AM
Most of them were from Hong Kong.

Are those type movies still a big deal or is it a thing of the past? Creativity may be on the verge of getting stifled in Hong Kong too. Would not surprise me if we did not see many more of the Hong Kong movers and shakers in Canada and US or U.K. before too long.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 03, 2021, 09:16:43 AM
China is funding Hollywood now.
Title: Re: the future belongs to china
Post by: mphgrove on February 03, 2021, 10:13:43 AM
China is funding Hollywood now.

That is back to economic domination (via trade surplus and holding debt and funds), does not really have to do with cultural creativity or export. Although yes, important factor.