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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2021, 02:48:56 PM »
that is true

it is quite amazing how different the chinese are from the japanese.

Japanese have pride and stand for quality and perfection of their work in general. The Chinese are like complete opposite in their mindset and approach to work.

I mean they are basically the same race more or less or am I wrong in that? Japanese avg IQ is about 2 points higher if that makes any difference.



No love lost between those two peoples. That is for sure. But the bloom is off the rise in Japan these days. Ongoing stagnant economy.

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2021, 02:50:30 PM »
The Japanese are legions better than the chinks
Yeah I know but I mean what makes the difference. I mean a jap from a chink is probably genetically like the difference of a brit from a scott or a swede from a dane

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2021, 04:30:33 PM »
that is true

it is quite amazing how different the chinese are from the japanese.

Japanese have pride and stand for quality and perfection of their work in general. The Chinese are like complete opposite in their mindset and approach to work.

I mean they are basically the same race more or less or am I wrong in that? Japanese avg IQ is about 2 points higher if that makes any difference.


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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #53 on: February 02, 2021, 10:43:32 AM »
The Japanese are legions better than the chinks
Yes, they are but there are fewer of them.

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2021, 11:20:49 AM »
Japan has some cultural impact in the West with their video games and anime TV shows and manga comics, especially with younger people and kids.

And their contribution to console gaming has been huge, with Nintendo, Sega and now Sony. The PSX made gaming ‘cool’ and brought it to the mainstream.

In the early 90’s, it was still viewed as more for kids and PC gaming was still a niche market with computers not really designed for gaming. Console games had better graphics than PC until graphics cards were developed specifically for gaming and I think console games helped inspire this due to the increasing market.

Now the games industry is bigger than the film industry.

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #55 on: February 02, 2021, 11:30:44 AM »
Yes, they are but there are fewer of them.

Yup.  Japanese, at least in my experience, have a much richer sense of honor, pride, and respect. 


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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #56 on: February 02, 2021, 11:59:42 AM »
Trump's trade war on China was a failure in every possible way
Dion Rabouin
Dion Rabouin, author of Markets
Illustration of a $100 bill with failed ink stamps on top
Illustration: Eniola Odetunde/Axios

The Biden administration plans to review the phase one U.S.-China trade deal, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said on Friday. Based on publicly available data, it's hard to imagine they'll find anything other than a debacle.

Driving the news: China isn't even close to fulfilling its end of the deal — having come up 42% short of its commitment, Chad Bown, a fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, reported late last week.

The phase one deal was meant to be the Trump administration's reward for U.S. farmers, manufacturers and other business owners who had been bludgeoned by Trump's tax on American businesses via the trade war's tariffs.
What was supposed to happen: The trade war was billed as a plan to bring China to its knees by choking off the all-important American market with 25% tariffs on many imports that would rein in the U.S. trade deficit, boost American exports and slow China's rise as a global superpower.

What really happened: "The trade war with China hurt the US economy and failed to achieve major policy goals," a recent study commissioned by the U.S.-China Business Council argues, finding that the trade war reduced economic growth and cost the U.S. 245,000 jobs.

Last year, the U.S. trade deficit widened to its largest on record. In the fourth quarter, the U.S. goods trade deficit hit its highest share of GDP since 2012 and the U.S. current account deficit jumped to its highest level in more than 12 years in the third quarter.
Foreign direct investment to the U.S. fell 49% in 2020 — outpacing the overall global decrease of 42%.
These trends had all been moving in this direction since 2017, and were accelerated by the coronavirus pandemic as Trump refused to remove tariffs despite their strain on businesses.
The big picture: "The tariffs forced American companies to accept lower profit margins, cut wages and jobs for U.S. workers, defer potential wage hikes or expansions, and raise prices for American consumers or companies," analysts at Brookings noted in August.

The other side: China's trade surplus last year hit a record $535 billion, up 27% from 2019. Exports rose 21.1% in dollar terms in November year over year and 18.1% in December from a year earlier, touching an all-time high.

For the full year, the trade surplus with the U.S. was $317 billion, 7% higher than in 2019.
Foreign direct investment to China rose 4% to $163 billion.

Reproduced from Peterson Institute for International Economics; Chart: Axios Visuals
Most economists agree that trade deficits don't actually hurt an economy. And while the U.S. trade deficit with China did decrease somewhat during Trump's time in office, the deficit increased with other countries and overall.

Meanwhile, China's trade surplus and its trade with other countries increased.
The bottom line: In addition to hurting U.S. businesses and workers, tariffs also drive up prices, and inflation expectations are starting to rise.

The U.S. current account deficit also is helping further weigh down the value of the dollar, economists say, another factor that could boost inflation.
Manufacturers, including Whirlpool and Polaris, have recently said they are struggling to meet consumer demand due to supply-chain constraints and coronavirus-related safety measures — both of which are pushing up costs.
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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2021, 12:31:30 PM »
this guy ^ has sever tds


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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #58 on: February 02, 2021, 02:05:27 PM »
Here is a Chinese analyst from China giving his view on why, unlike Japan, China has been unable to export its culture. Main reason: absence of freedom stifles creativity. He does add that, although there aren’t much in the way of cultural exports to U.S. or Europe, there are beginning to be some exports to other places like India and Africa but he doesn’t give examples so I remain doubtful (maybe Chinese movies to those regions?)

https://www.nanjingmarketinggroup.com/blog/chinese-cultural-exports-in-the-west

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #59 on: February 03, 2021, 04:11:26 AM »
Here is a Chinese analyst from China giving his view on why, unlike Japan, China has been unable to export its culture. Main reason: absence of freedom stifles creativity. He does add that, although there aren’t much in the way of cultural exports to U.S. or Europe, there are beginning to be some exports to other places like India and Africa but he doesn’t give examples so I remain doubtful (maybe Chinese movies to those regions?)

https://www.nanjingmarketinggroup.com/blog/chinese-cultural-exports-in-the-west
Chinese restaurants?

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #60 on: February 03, 2021, 04:35:50 AM »
Here is a Chinese analyst from China giving his view on why, unlike Japan, China has been unable to export its culture. Main reason: absence of freedom stifles creativity. He does add that, although there aren’t much in the way of cultural exports to U.S. or Europe, there are beginning to be some exports to other places like India and Africa but he doesn’t give examples so I remain doubtful (maybe Chinese movies to those regions?)

https://www.nanjingmarketinggroup.com/blog/chinese-cultural-exports-in-the-west

Kung fu movies?


Jackie Chan movies?

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #61 on: February 03, 2021, 04:50:30 AM »
Kung fu movies?


Jackie Chan movies?
Mail order brides?

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #62 on: February 03, 2021, 04:54:09 AM »
Mail order brides?

A popular thing in Swe for older men is to get gals from Thailand!

The older ladies get young bucks from Gambia :D
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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #63 on: February 03, 2021, 05:00:44 AM »
Chinese restaurants?

Well yes, come to think of it. Chinese restaurants and Chinese food in general are a HUGE and SUCCESSFUL cultural export (of sorts). Not sure exactly how to process that exactly in terms of “cultural” domination. Is that as important as Japanese Anime or American music or French literature? Probably I guess.

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #64 on: February 03, 2021, 05:00:52 AM »
A popular thing in Swe for older men is to get gals from Thailand!

The older ladies get young bucks from Gambia :D
The movie  Dennis  is about a bodybuilder from Denmark who goes to Thailand and gets a wife.  Good movie.

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #65 on: February 03, 2021, 05:02:00 AM »
Well yes, come to think of it. Chinese restaurants and Chinese food in general are a HUGE and SUCCESSFUL cultural export (of sorts). Not sure exactly how to process that exactly in terms of “cultural” domination. Is that as important as Japanese Anime or American music or French literature? Probably I guess.
The Chinese could poison the food and kill millions of Americans. ;D

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #66 on: February 03, 2021, 05:45:14 AM »
The Chinese could poison the food and kill millions of Americans. ;D

Tender squab = pigeon (already)

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2021, 06:02:54 AM »
Kung fu movies?


Jackie Chan movies?

Is there as much of that going on today as several decades ago? Movies are definitely a cultural export. Just not familiar enough here to know about this, but want to give credit where credit is due. China has a HUGE movie industry (to serve its 2 billion people). Also dubbed and exported to others?

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2021, 06:14:10 AM »
Kung fu movies?


Jackie Chan movies?

Most of them were from Hong Kong.

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2021, 06:26:53 AM »
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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2021, 08:07:08 AM »
Most of them were from Hong Kong.

Are those type movies still a big deal or is it a thing of the past? Creativity may be on the verge of getting stifled in Hong Kong too. Would not surprise me if we did not see many more of the Hong Kong movers and shakers in Canada and US or U.K. before too long.

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #71 on: February 03, 2021, 09:16:43 AM »
China is funding Hollywood now.

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Re: the future belongs to china
« Reply #72 on: February 03, 2021, 10:13:43 AM »
China is funding Hollywood now.

That is back to economic domination (via trade surplus and holding debt and funds), does not really have to do with cultural creativity or export. Although yes, important factor.