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Motivates me more than today's stuff, what about you?
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Every time you don't feel like downing no more chicken, you look at Ronnie's ENTIRE PLATE being covered with the yardbird and drowned in BBQ sauce and want to just eat ONE MORE BITE!!!
LIGHT FORK, BABY!!!
;D
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Umm - no.
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Umm - no.
I believe the topic was Ronnie Coleman footage from 20 years ago.
Nobody is talking about today, when he's obviously both retired and battling spinal injuries.
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Im bored shitless with the "eat ,eat .eat" bullshit these fuckwits keep coming out with.
99.999% of people will just end up fat fat fat.
If you keep eating until you are stuffed then after three days your digestive system will be so overloaded you will just shut down
Most peoples digestive systems cannot handle heavy amounts of food day in day out, cycling calories is the only way to eat more food switching from a high day and working around upping and lowering calories.
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Motivates me more than today's stuff, what about you?
Umm - no.
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I believe the topic was Ronnie Coleman footage from 20 years ago.
Nobody is talking about today, when he's obviously both retired and battling spinal injuries.
Who the fuck are you, the board sheriff, lol? I can't get "hyped up" watching a guy who literally destroyed his body by his workout routines.
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Motivates me more than today's stuff, what about you?
What, pray tell, could possibly motivate a normal person to want to fuck their life up with drugs and enough food at every meal to feed a worthless turd world family of Ethiopians for a year on?
Coleman is a scab on the scrotum of the planet. He's not the greatest at anything. I doubt those 72 girls spat out by multiple "wives" of his are his cuz that fuckwit is sterile and has nuts the size of the ones on the last gerbil to escape from Richard Gere's dirtstar. Coleman for Deadpool.
Like the Knight in "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" said..."He chose poorly". Apparently, when it comes to emulating someone, so have you.
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Im bored shitless with the "eat ,eat .eat" bullshit these fuckwits keep coming out with.
99.999% of people will just end up fat fat fat.
If you keep eating until you are stuffed then after three days your digestive system will be so overloaded you will just shut down
Most peoples digestive systems cannot handle heavy amounts of food day in day out, cycling calories is the only way to eat more food switching from a high day and working around upping and lowering calories.
^They call this Bhank envy^
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Im bored shitless with the "eat ,eat .eat" bullshit these fuckwits keep coming out with.
99.999% of people will just end up fat fat fat.
If you keep eating until you are stuffed then after three days your digestive system will be so overloaded you will just shut down
Most peoples digestive systems cannot handle heavy amounts of food day in day out, cycling calories is the only way to eat more food switching from a high day and working around upping and lowering calories.
In other words, you're bored with the truth. Bodybuilders from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and today have preached that same mass gospel. Yet some folks just don't want to learn.
You want to believe you're just a few syringes away from being Mr. Universe. But that ain't the way it rolls.
Virtually ALL of the mass freaks you (and others admire) eat enough groceries to feed a family of 5 on a regular basis.
Just as muscles gradually get stronger and adapt to stress, your digestive system gets more efficient and learns to process more food.
Even guys who take a generous amount of performance-enhancing drugs put on fat, from time to time. How many King-Kamali-bashing threads have there been over the last 10 years, in that regards?
The key word is gradually. You don't just jump from 3000 to 8000 calories per day in one fell swoop. If you're naturally a twig, you're going to have to ramp up your calories significantly to have any hopes of putting on mass.
Will it be all muscle? NO! Not even steroid-using pros/top amateurs can do that. But you mitigate how much fat you put on your body by watching what you eat, eating as little over your maintenance weight as needed to gain weight, and vary your calories based on your activity level.
To borrow a Ronnie-ism, "Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder; but don't nobody wanna eat no heavy-@$$ food!!"
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Who the fuck are you, the board sheriff, lol? I can't get "hyped up" watching a guy who literally destroyed his body by his workout routines.
Then take your sorry behind elsewhere and quit blubbering about Ronnie Coleman's routines on a thread about Ronnie Coleman.
Johnnie Jackson trains similar to Ronnie; he's alive and well.
Plus, in case you missed it, that video is about what he EATS. In the few shots where it shows him training, he's doing double-digit reps on dumbbell presses and barbell rows.
That's what was so impressive about Ronnie. He could use that much weight for 10 reps or more. The guy did front squats for 12 reps with 585. Many IFBB pros can't do regular squats with that kind of poundage.
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What, pray tell, could possibly motivate a normal person to want to fuck their life up with drugs and enough food at every meal to feed a worthless turd world family of Ethiopians for a year on?
Coleman is a scab on the scrotum of the planet. He's not the greatest at anything. I doubt those 72 girls spat out by multiple "wives" of his are his cuz that fuckwit is sterile and has nuts the size of the ones on the last gerbil to escape from Richard Gere's dirtstar. Coleman for Deadpool.
Like the Knight in "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" said..."He chose poorly". Apparently, when it comes to emulating someone, so have you.
What, pray tell, could possibly motivate someone to whine about steroids and eating massive amounts of food....ON A WEBSITE CALLED "GETBIG.COM"?
Kai Greene, Dennis James, and other IFBB pros train with super-heavy weights, as well. Yet, they don't have Ronnie's health issues.
Then again, some of the same folks who whine about Coleman's training too heavy turn right around and bash Phil Heath for training too light (and on too many machines).
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You want to believe you're just a few syringes away from being Mr. Universe. But that ain't the way it rolls.
This is so funny and BB exclusive. The problem is that people who start BB mostly suffer from a narcissistic personality disorder anyways, so it's impossible for them to face the fact that there might be other people on that planet who are just more gifted or talented than themselves, and everyone who looks better has to be on a ton of drugs "and if I took what this guy takes...." blablabla :D
Have you ever heard a hobby cyclist babble that he's just one EPO-cycle away from winning the Tour de France? :D
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i don't think he's 20 years old in the video
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One of the things I find disgusting about modern bbing. Stuffing yourself like that. Trying to make it seem like some great virtue. It's gluttony. One of the seven deadly sins.
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In other words, you're bored with the truth. Bodybuilders from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and today have preached that same mass gospel. Yet some folks just don't want to learn.
You want to believe you're just a few syringes away from being Mr. Universe. But that ain't the way it rolls.
Virtually ALL of the mass freaks you (and others admire) eat enough groceries to feed a family of 5 on a regular basis.
Just as muscles gradually get stronger and adapt to stress, your digestive system gets more efficient and learns to process more food.
Even guys who take a generous amount of performance-enhancing drugs put on fat, from time to time. How many King-Kamali-bashing threads have there been over the last 10 years, in that regards?
The key word is gradually. You don't just jump from 3000 to 8000 calories per day in one fell swoop. If you're naturally a twig, you're going to have to ramp up your calories significantly to have any hopes of putting on mass.
Will it be all muscle? NO! Not even steroid-using pros/top amateurs can do that. But you mitigate how much fat you put on your body by watching what you eat, eating as little over your maintenance weight as needed to gain weight, and vary your calories based on your activity level.
To borrow a Ronnie-ism, "Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder; but don't nobody wanna eat no heavy-@$$ food!!"
I dont admire any mass freaks...
second bolded point just validates exactly what I said, you dont need to force feed yourself to the point of bursting to reach your full potential
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I dont admire any mass freaks...
second bolded point just validates exactly what I said, you dont need to force feed yourself to the point of bursting to reach your full potential
Who said Ronnie is force-feeding himself? Obviously, he didn't start his bodybuilding/powerlifting venture, eating the amount of food you see in that 2000/2001 footage.
He GRADUALLY increased his calories as he got bigger. You think he was eating that amount of food you see in that video back in early 90s? NOPE!!
Would he have put on the size needed to become Mr. Olympia (once, let alone eight times) has he continued eating the same amount of food he did in his early stages? Hardly!!
And that doesn't just apply to the mass freaks that you claim you don't like or admire. Bodybuilding legends like Dennis Tinerio and Larry Scott had to push up their caloric intake, in order to reach their competitive heights (Mr. Universe and Mr. Olympia, respectively).
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Who said Ronnie is force-feeding himself? Obviously, he didn't start his bodybuilding/powerlifting venture, eating the amount of food you see in that 2000/2001 footage.
He GRADUALLY increased his calories as he got bigger. You think he was eating that amount of food you see in that video back in early 90s? NOPE!!
Read my original post....
Im bored shitless with the "eat ,eat .eat" bullshit these fuckwits keep coming out with.
99.999% of people will just end up fat fat fat.
If you keep eating until you are stuffed then after three days your digestive system will be so overloaded you will just shut down
Most peoples digestive systems cannot handle heavy amounts of food day in day out, cycling calories is the only way to eat more food switching from a high day and working around upping and lowering calories.
I think we are in agreement
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One of the things I find disgusting about modern bbing. Stuffing yourself like that. Trying to make it seem like some great virtue. It's gluttony. One of the seven deadly sins.
Well, athletes have a higher caloric intake, it is what it is. What do you think a professional swimmer or track and field athlete stuffs into himself on a daily basis...? Probably not much less than a Mr. Olympia contender.
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Im bored shitless with the "eat ,eat .eat" bullshit these fuckwits keep coming out with.
99.999% of people will just end up fat fat fat.
If you keep eating until you are stuffed then after three days your digestive system will be so overloaded you will just shut down
Most peoples digestive systems cannot handle heavy amounts of food day in day out, cycling calories is the only way to eat more food switching from a high day and working around upping and lowering calories.
and how are you deciding ahead of time if your body is going to "need" more or less calories that day?
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and how are you deciding ahead of time if your body is going to "need" more or less calories that day?
Fucks sake if you are getting fat you are eating too much, how hard can it fucking be?
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Read my original post....
I think we are in agreement
We are to a point. But, why would you have an issue with the concept of his increasing calories gradually to the point where he eats the volume seen in that footage?
You could argue the that half of amount of food that Ronnie ate in that video would have stuffed him 10 years earlier.
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its the voice over that I was commenting on, Rich Piana used to say the same shite, just eat, keep eating and eat some more, get up in the night and eat something, its fucking moronic
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There will never be another Ronnie. His worth ethic + genetics are an insurmountable combination.
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its the voice over that I was commenting on, Rich Piana used to say the same shite, just eat, keep eating and eat some more, get up in the night and eat something, its fucking moronic
I don't think Ronnie Coleman woke up in the middle of the night to eat. If he ate in the middle of the night, it was because of his schedule when he worked as a cop. Some of his shifts were 2pm to 10pm or something like that.
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There will never be another Ronnie. His worth ethic + genetics are an insurmountable combination.
Just a naive comment.
“There will never … “
Yes there will be.
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Just a naive comment.
“There will never … “
Yes there will be.
Some believe Mamdouh "Big Ramy" Ellsbiay is the freak heir-apparent to Ronnie Coleman.
Chad Nicholls, Ronnie's former and Big Ramy's current coach, claims the reason Ramy finally nailed his condition in 2020 to win the big one is that he and Dennis James kept him on low carbs and two hours of cardio.
Nicholls claimed that Ramy's trainers in Kuwait just wanted to keep him big; so, they kept feeding him and would only drop his calories so far for contest prep.
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In other words, you're bored with the truth. Bodybuilders from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and today have preached that same mass gospel. Yet some folks just don't want to learn.
You want to believe you're just a few syringes away from being Mr. Universe. But that ain't the way it rolls.
Virtually ALL of the mass freaks you (and others admire) eat enough groceries to feed a family of 5 on a regular basis.
Just as muscles gradually get stronger and adapt to stress, your digestive system gets more efficient and learns to process more food.
Even guys who take a generous amount of performance-enhancing drugs put on fat, from time to time. How many King-Kamali-bashing threads have there been over the last 10 years, in that regards?
The key word is gradually. You don't just jump from 3000 to 8000 calories per day in one fell swoop. If you're naturally a twig, you're going to have to ramp up your calories significantly to have any hopes of putting on mass.
Will it be all muscle? NO! Not even steroid-using pros/top amateurs can do that. But you mitigate how much fat you put on your body by watching what you eat, eating as little over your maintenance weight as needed to gain weight, and vary your calories based on your activity level.
To borrow a Ronnie-ism, "Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder; but don't nobody wanna eat no heavy-@$$ food!!"
Wow this is really good info....I’m gonna write it all down in my journal. Thanks.
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Coleman was the biggest pile of shit on the plate. And what just loves shit?
Flies.
Flock to it, Brundleboys.
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If ronnie only trained abs with the same enthusiasm as everything else, his back would be fine
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Im bored shitless with the "eat ,eat .eat" bullshit these fuckwits keep coming out with.
99.999% of people will just end up fat fat fat.
If you keep eating until you are stuffed then after three days your digestive system will be so overloaded you will just shut down
Most peoples digestive systems cannot handle heavy amounts of food day in day out, cycling calories is the only way to eat more food switching from a high day and working around upping and lowering calories.
Dr. "Squat" aka Fred Hatfield wrote a very good article on cycling calories.....Google it if interested.............. .it`s a good read.
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Some believe Mamdouh "Big Ramy" Ellsbiay is the freak heir-apparent to Ronnie Coleman.
Chad Nicholls, Ronnie's former and Big Ramy's current coach, claims the reason Ramy finally nailed his condition in 2020 to win the big one is that he and Dennis James kept him on low carbs and two hours of cardio.
Nicholls claimed that Ramy's trainers in Kuwait just wanted to keep him big; so, they kept feeding him and would only drop his calories so far for contest prep.
It's kind of ironic that bbers in one sense live a very healthy lifestyle. They do resistant training, cardio, don't eat junk food, and make sure to get enough sleep -- all the things that you would think would optimize good health -- yet they are probably one of the most unhealthy athletes of any sport.
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Well, athletes have a higher caloric intake, it is what it is. What do you think a professional swimmer or track and field athlete stuffs into himself on a daily basis...? Probably not much less than a Mr. Olympia contender.
I don't think that is the case. An athlete eats far more than the average person because all that activity makes him more hungry. I doubt Micheal Phelps forced himself to the point of nausea, where eating becomes a chore. Even Jay has commented that he grew sick of food and eating and one of the best things about being retired is not having to get up in the middle of the night just to eat. I don't think any other athlete in any sport has to do that.
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We are to a point. But, why would you have an issue with the concept of his increasing calories gradually to the point where he eats the volume seen in that footage?
You could argue the that half of amount of food that Ronnie ate in that video would have stuffed him 10 years earlier.
Yes, and joswift is right that all you have to do is look at your body to determine whether you are eating too much. When you look at Ronnie it is obvious that he is not eating too much. Even off season he is not fat. He is holding water but you can still see abs and not the flab you see on the vast majority of the population that only eat a fraction of what he eats.
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I don't think Ronnie Coleman woke up in the middle of the night to eat. If he ate in the middle of the night, it was because of his schedule when he worked as a cop. Some of his shifts were 2pm to 10pm one something like that.
Actually, like Jay, he did say that in one of his interviews. I don't have the link and it's not worth it for me to look it up because regardless he had to eat a ton of food. Remember on the Rogan show how he said it took, "A lot of eating. A LOT."
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Actually, like Jay, he did say that in one of his interviews. I don't have the link and it's not worth it for me to look it up because regardless he had to eat a ton of food. Remember on the Rogan show how he said it took, "A lot of eating. A LOT."
It's possible he started doing that when he stopped working full-time as a cop (maybe I have a quote of his in one of my magazines in the garage, regarding that).
I just figured he ate in the middle of the night because of his weird police work schedule.
It's kind of ironic that bbers in one sense live a very healthy lifestyle. They do resistant training, cardio, don't eat junk food, and make sure to get enough sleep -- all the things that you would think would optimize good health -- yet they are probably one of the most unhealthy athletes of any sport.
It could be that they go too far to the extreme. For a few months, they do cardio, don't eat junk food, get enough sleep, etc.
But, the second the contest is over, they get buck wild. They eat everything that ain't nailed down; say "To HELL with cardio", and party themselves silly.
Some have been known to get porcine in the off-season. Then, they attempt to slice off all the blubber in 3 months.
Back to our current Mr. O, Nicholls claimed they starved him and cardio him nearly to death, to get him in shape for that show.
Wasn't he three bills at the ASC, where he lost to Jackson and Bonac?
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Just a naive comment.
“There will never … “
Yes there will be.
No, there won't. His heavy training, that no one does anymore paired with his genetics and work ethic. It ain't happening again. Sorry if you have a difference of opinion.
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No, there won't. His heavy training, that no one does anymore paired with his genetics and work ethic. It ain't happening again. Sorry if you have a difference of opinion.
To believe he’s the only one who champions heavy lifting is beyond ridiculous. So, too, that his genetics will never again be witnessed, or that his intense workouts repeated.
Heck, my work ethic matches his. Easy. And in 35 years in gym culture, I’ve seen MANY others’ that have, too. Dedication and effort are in no short supply.
Every generation has that one athlete, musician, whomever, that is thought will never be repeated.
There are eight billion on this planet. Soon to be replaced with another 10 billion.
Get real.
The next is right around the corner.
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To believe he’s the only one who champions heavy lifting is beyond ridiculous. So, too, that his genetics will never again be witnessed, or that his intense workouts repeated.
Heck, my work ethic matches his. Easy. And in 35 years in gym culture, I’ve seen MANY others’ that have, too. Dedication and effort are in no short supply.
Every generation has that one athlete, musician, whomever, that is thought will never be repeated.
There are eight billion on this planet. Soon to be replaced with another 10 billion.
Get real.
The next is right around the corner.
You know a lot of pro bbers Corner rowing 540 lbs? Squating and deading 800? DB benching 200's for 12? Like I said before, his combination of genetics, heavy training and work ethic will never be bested. It destroyed his body. No one is doing that again. There's no one close to his size and muscle quality.
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He's not 20 there
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You know a lot of pro bbers Corner rowing 540 lbs? Squating and deading 800? DB benching 200's for 12? Like I said before, his combination of genetics, heavy training and work ethic will never be bested. It destroyed his body. No one is doing that again. There's no one close to his size and muscle quality.
The late Greg Kovacs was a BEAST. But, after he turned pro, it all went downhill. MuscleTech kept hyping him to compete at 325 ripped for the 1997 Night of Champions. He weighed 318 and was quite smooth.
We never really heard (or saw) Ronnie's feats of strength, until he became Mr. Olympia. Then the hype started moving away from Dorian Yates' modified Heavy-Duty-style-beyond-failure training to Ronnie Coleman's straight-up lifting everything-that-ain't-nailed-down poundages.
Kevin Levrone was no slouch in the strength department either. Per his account, he tore his pec in the early 90s benching 600.
And let's not forget Johnnie Jackson, who is a legitimate powerlifter. He won a deadlifting meet, nailing over 800 mere weeks before he won the NPC Nationals and turned pro.
These guys may not be Ronnie-Coleman strong. But, they're up there. As for destroying his body, Coleman claims nagging injuries from football are what led to his current issues.
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You know a lot of pro bbers Corner rowing 540 lbs? Squating and deading 800? DB benching 200's for 12? Like I said before, his combination of genetics, heavy training and work ethic will never be bested. It destroyed his body. No one is doing that again. There's no one close to his size and muscle quality.
Ronnie himself said he didn’t regularly lift the poundage he did in the infamous video. And, yes, there are plenty of serious weight trainers of all types who’re capable of hoisting what he did. That dead guy, Dallas, could easily out-dead Coleman, and MANY can out-press him, too. Levrone is a gifted presser, who, when fully gassed and in his prime, could have bar pressed Ron into oblivion.
For his size, Shawn Ray was easily his equal squatting. Each decade is littered with bodybuilders who perform miraculous feats of strength. Platz was possibly the greatest “pure” bodybuilding/Olympic-style squatter ever witnessed. Dorian, renowned for FAR better technique, could lift, relative to said technique, comparable poundages. Especially in pulling exercises.
A guy like Mike Francois was capable of rising to the top in powerlifting, forget his bodybuilding, if he had chosen to.
You keep talking about “work ethic”. Dedication to incredibly intense weight training and eating is not rare. Not in the least.
And muscle quality? Ronnie’s wasn’t a rarity in top-tier bodybuilding.
There are PLENTY close to his size. Don’t be so ridiculous. Many said we’d never see again the size and quality of Lee Haney. Same was said about Arnold. And his work ethic.
All different physiques. But all ahead of the pack in their time.
One more thing. Ronnie wrecked his body because he pushed its structural integrity beyond its breaking point. Nothing more or less.
To think Ronnie was the ONLY man with incredible bodybuilding genetics (in all its permutations) who was an incredibly intense weight trainer out of BILLIONS, with billions more coming, is utterly stupid beyond belief.
It’s like all the Buddy-Rich-was-the-greatest-drummer-and-no-one-will-ever-be-as-good fools.
BILLIONS of people, and, barring mankind’s extinction, centuries of time.
I’m done. This is entirely ridiculous to argue.
You’re not going to change your mind because you are either still too young to comprehend reality or you’re frankly not up to snuff, intellectually, for me to waste time.
Best of luck.
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Ronnie himself said he didn’t regularly lift the poundage he did in the infamous video. And, yes, there are plenty of serious weight trainers of all types who’re capable of hoisting what he did. That dead guy, Dallas, could easily out-dead Coleman, and MANY can out-press him, too. Levrone is a gifted presser, who, when fully gassed and in his prime, could have bar pressed Ron into oblivion.
For his size, Shawn Ray was easily his equal squatting. Each decade is littered with bodybuilders who perform miraculous feats of strength. Platz was possibly the greatest “pure” bodybuilding/Olympic-style squatter ever witnessed. Dorian, renowned for FAR better technique, could lift, relative to said technique, comparable poundages. Especially in pulling exercises.
A guy like Mike Francois was capable of rising to the top in powerlifting, forget his bodybuilding, if he had chosen to.
You keep talking about “work ethic”. Dedication to incredibly intense weight training and eating is not rare. Not in the least.
And muscle quality? Ronnie’s wasn’t a rarity in top-tier bodybuilding.
There are PLENTY close to his size. Don’t be so ridiculous. Many said we’d never see again the size and quality of Lee Haney. Same was said about Arnold. And his work ethic.
All different physiques. But all ahead of the pack in their time.
One more thing. Ronnie wrecked his body because he pushed its structural integrity beyond its breaking point. Nothing more or less.
Tbh the only one that I think beats Ronnie is Branch Warren
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Im bored shitless with the "eat ,eat .eat" bullshit these fuckwits keep coming out with.
99.999% of people will just end up fat fat fat.
If you keep eating until you are stuffed then after three days your digestive system will be so overloaded you will just shut down
Most peoples digestive systems cannot handle heavy amounts of food day in day out, cycling calories is the only way to eat more food switching from a high day and working around upping and lowering calories.
I experienced the exact thing at 20 or after so reading an old Jason mueller article about eating to grow 3 days in body just said fuck it was up being sick several times through night not due to illness just of digestion being fucked up saying no more. Very unpleasant feeling
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If you wanna grow you gotta eat like a freaking pig
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Ronnie himself said he didn’t regularly lift the poundage he did in the infamous video. And, yes, there are plenty of serious weight trainers of all types who’re capable of hoisting what he did. That dead guy, Dallas, could easily out-dead Coleman, and MANY can out-press him, too. Levrone is a gifted presser, who, when fully gassed and in his prime, could have bar pressed Ron into oblivion.
For his size, Shawn Ray was easily his equal squatting. Each decade is littered with bodybuilders who perform miraculous feats of strength. Platz was possibly the greatest “pure” bodybuilding/Olympic-style squatter ever witnessed. Dorian, renowned for FAR better technique, could lift, relative to said technique, comparable poundages. Especially in pulling exercises.
A guy like Mike Francois was capable of rising to the top in powerlifting, forget his bodybuilding, if he had chosen to.
You keep talking about “work ethic”. Dedication to incredibly intense weight training and eating is not rare. Not in the least.
And muscle quality? Ronnie’s wasn’t a rarity in top-tier bodybuilding.
There are PLENTY close to his size. Don’t be so ridiculous. Many said we’d never see again the size and quality of Lee Haney. Same was said about Arnold. And his work ethic.
All different physiques. But all ahead of the pack in their time.
One more thing. Ronnie wrecked his body because he pushed its structural integrity beyond its breaking point. Nothing more or less.
To think Ronnie was the ONLY man with incredible bodybuilding genetics (in all its permutations) who was an incredibly intense weight trainer out of BILLIONS, with billions more coming, is utterly stupid beyond belief.
It’s like all the Buddy-Rich-was-the-greatest-drummer-and-no-one-will-ever-be-as-good fools.
BILLIONS of people, and, barring mankind’s extinction, centuries of time.
I’m done. This is entirely ridiculous to argue.
You’re not going to change your mind because you are either still too young to comprehend reality or you’re frankly not up to snuff, intellectually, for me to waste time.
Best of luck.
This post is littered with inaccuracies. The only true statement is about Dallas and how did that workout? He didn't have Ronnie's genes so he made up for it with drugs and put himself in the grave. I think you're still living in the 90's flex magazine days before we could see what guys were actually lifting. You seem to be relying on chris lund photoshoots for you strength numbers. Your bodybuilding knowledge also seems extremely dated. You make up for it with what i'm sure is an extremely unjustified ego and poor reading comprehension. I'm done talking to some nobody who probably isn't even a has been.
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Ronnie himself said he didn’t regularly lift the poundage he did in the infamous video. And, yes, there are plenty of serious weight trainers of all types who’re capable of hoisting what he did. That dead guy, Dallas, could easily out-dead Coleman, and MANY can out-press him, too. Levrone is a gifted presser, who, when fully gassed and in his prime, could have bar pressed Ron into oblivion.
For his size, Shawn Ray was easily his equal squatting. Each decade is littered with bodybuilders who perform miraculous feats of strength. Platz was possibly the greatest “pure” bodybuilding/Olympic-style squatter ever witnessed. Dorian, renowned for FAR better technique, could lift, relative to said technique, comparable poundages. Especially in pulling exercises.
A guy like Mike Francois was capable of rising to the top in powerlifting, forget his bodybuilding, if he had chosen to.
You keep talking about “work ethic”. Dedication to incredibly intense weight training and eating is not rare. Not in the least.
And muscle quality? Ronnie’s wasn’t a rarity in top-tier bodybuilding.
There are PLENTY close to his size. Don’t be so ridiculous. Many said we’d never see again the size and quality of Lee Haney. Same was said about Arnold. And his work ethic.
All different physiques. But all ahead of the pack in their time.
One more thing. Ronnie wrecked his body because he pushed its structural integrity beyond its breaking point. Nothing more or less.
To think Ronnie was the ONLY man with incredible bodybuilding genetics (in all its permutations) who was an incredibly intense weight trainer out of BILLIONS, with billions more coming, is utterly stupid beyond belief.
It’s like all the Buddy-Rich-was-the-greatest-drummer-and-no-one-will-ever-be-as-good fools.
BILLIONS of people, and, barring mankind’s extinction, centuries of time.
I’m done. This is entirely ridiculous to argue.
You’re not going to change your mind because you are either still too young to comprehend reality or you’re frankly not up to snuff, intellectually, for me to waste time.
Best of luck.
Ronnie (and others) also claimed that he stopped at two reps on some of those 800-lb squats but could have done more.
I'm more impressed with his doing front squats with 585 for 12 reps. It's the monster poundages for double-digit reps that built his physique.
And he was doing that during contest prep. How much more could he do in full off-season more? YIKES!!!
The fact that Big Ron was slinging that kind of weight in contest-mode, when the unwritten rule/provisional wisdom was to train lighter with lots of reps, is what makes many in awe of his training.
Some have wondered how Ronnie leap-frogged over the competition to become Mr. Olympia. After seeing how he trained, they may have found their answer. Shawn Ray once described Ronnie as a "C-level" bodybuilder. He doesn't do that anymore.
That video is about how much food Coleman puts away. All the super-heavies I've seen pack away the groceries.
Check out the chow of World Bodybuilding Federation Champ, Gary Strydom (0:55)
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Ronnie (and others) also claimed that he stopped at two reps on some of those 800-lb squats but could have done more.
I'm more impressed with his doing front squats with 585 for 12 reps. It's the monster poundages for double-digit reps that built his physique.
And he was doing that during contest prep. How much more could he do in full off-season more? YIKES!!!
The fact that Big Ron was slinging that kind of weight in contest-mode, when the unwritten rule/provisional wisdom was to train lighter with lots of reps, is what makes many in awe of his training.
Some have wondered how Ronnie leap-frogged over the competition to become Mr. Olympia. After seeing how he trained, they may have found their answer. Shawn Ray once described Ronnie as a "C-level" bodybuilder. He doesn't do that anymore.
That video is about how much food Coleman puts away. All the super-heavies I've seen pack away the groceries.
Check out the chow of World Bodybuilding Federation Champ, Gary Stardom (0:55)
Many pros have told me they’re dramatically stronger pre-contest, because their use is considerably greater. What I’ve been told.
And as far as Strydom, I ate meals with him when he was at his biggest, a hard 285, in the early nineties. No exaggeration, the man consumed three or four times what I did.
PLATEFULS of food. Several.
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Many pros have told me they’re dramatically stronger pre-contest, because their use is considerably greater. What I’ve been told.
And as far as Strydom, I ate meals with him when he was at his biggest, a hard 285, in the early nineties. No exaggeration, the man consumed three or four times what I did.
PLATEFULS of food. Several.
I've often wondered why, when people talk about "mass monsters" from the 90s, Strydom doesn't get mentioned. He was GIGANTIC!!
So was another WBF guy, "The Future" Jim Quinn. Listen to what he had for lunch during a 1991 photo shoot (2:52).
And he was also known for lifting super poundages in the gym.
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If you wanna grow you gotta eat like a freaking pig
A lot of the old timers didn't stuff themselves, per se, because they ate a lot of fat in their weight-gaining diet.....usually in the form of whole milk, heavy cream, and whole eggs.
This was especially true for the super-skinny guys, i.e. the first Mr. O, Larry Scott and Don "Duke of Deltoids" Howorth.
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I've often wondered why, when people talk about "mass monsters" from the 90s, Strydom doesn't get mentioned. He was GIGANTIC!!
So was another WBF guy, "The Future" Jim Quinn. Listen to what he had for lunch during a 1991 photo shoot (2:52).
And he was also known for lifting super poundages in the gym.
With Dillet, Strydom had the biggest wheels ever on a “tall” man.
He was a solid 6’2 and simply huge. Just hanging about, without question, Gary was far more impressive than Coleman ever was. And I have hung around both at their respective biggest. Ronnie’s arms were bigger and more garden-hosey, but Strydom was quite simply a TANK.
Gary also was a lot of go with his show (unlike Paul). Not as much in his later years, but when he was building into a beast, he’d squat and move some tremendous poundages.
If he had had a back to match everything else, he would have been a multi-Mr. O winner.
I’ve seen ‘em all, and I can say, Strydom was as impressive a muscleman as I’ve ever seen. He didn’t even diminish to a notable degree standing beside Loutard, in the gym, when Loutard was at his largest (he was roughly 320-330 at the time).
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Ronnie (and others) also claimed that he stopped at two reps on some of those 800-lb squats but could have done more.
I'm more impressed with his doing front squats with 585 for 12 reps. It's the monster poundages for double-digit reps that built his physique.
And he was doing that during contest prep. How much more could he do in full off-season more? YIKES!!!
The fact that Big Ron was slinging that kind of weight in contest-mode, when the unwritten rule/provisional wisdom was to train lighter with lots of reps, is what makes many in awe of his training.
Some have wondered how Ronnie leap-frogged over the competition to become Mr. Olympia. After seeing how he trained, they may have found their answer. Shawn Ray once described Ronnie as a "C-level" bodybuilder. He doesn't do that anymore.
That video is about how much food Coleman puts away. All the super-heavies I've seen pack away the groceries.
Check out the chow of World Bodybuilding Federation Champ, Gary Stardom (0:55)
Got into it with him on FB once, he claimed natty in that show as Vince made everyone get tested.
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Got into it with him on FB once, he claimed natty in that show as Vince made everyone get tested.
Mike Christian and Mike Quinn claimed Strydom was the only one not tested at that 1992 show.
Jim Quinn, Eddie Robinson, and Tony Pearson have gone on record claiming all the WBF guys (Strydom included) were tested.
J. Quinn claimed he and Strydom had size to spare; so when the hammer came down, they showed up smaller but in good shape. Plus, neither of them followed DiPasquale's diet.
They probably has to ease up on the calories a bit, too.
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At the time I heard all WBF competitors were tested several times. If they failed the test they wouldn't get their monthly check, but could still compete. Strydom failed the test, lost his monthly salary, but was still the champ.
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Mike Christian and Mike Quinn claimed Strydom was the only one not tested at that 1992 show.
Jim Quinn, Eddie Robinson, and Tony Pearson have gone on record claiming all the WBF guys (Strydom included) were tested.
J. Quinn claimed he and Strydom had size to spare; so when the hammer came down, they showed up smaller but in good shape. Plus, neither of them followed DiPasquale's diet.
They probably has to ease up on the calories a bit, too.
Was a guest at DiPasquale’s home (huge) on two occasions, for multi-night stays. He was a very nice man, although I disagreed with some of his thinking re: aspects of our weight-training sports. On one of these occasions Platz was also there; and, on another, Mark Henry.
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At the time I heard all WBF competitors were tested several times. If they failed the test they wouldn't get their monthly check, but could still compete. Strydom failed the test, lost his monthly salary, but was still the champ.
I never heard of Strydom failing his test. Mike Christian failed his (he said so himself in an interview), which cost him $25,000.
Mike Quinn may have as well. One guy who stated he certainly did NOT fail his...."The Jetman" Tony Pearson (13:35).
The aforementioned 1992 Pearson performance:
And here he is, 28 years later, winning the 2020 AAU Masters Mr. Universe....at age 63:
Was a guest at DiPasquale’s home (huge) on two occasions, for multi-night stays. He was a very nice man, although I disagreed with some of his thinking re: aspects of our weight-training sports. On one of these occasions Platz was also there; and, on another, Mark Henry.
Did you happen to inquire about his controversial high-fat diet?
During the PPV of the 1992 WBF championship, DisPasquale explained how he improved on the IOC's protocol by being able to test for clenbuterol and growth hormone. He also mentioned that, by doing a hormonal profile, he could catch someone using testosterone even if it's not detectable in the urine.
Would that hormonal profile be the testosterone:epitestosterone (T:E) thing? I think it's something like, higher than 6:1 means you're using exogenous testosterone.
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Going off the rails here, back to Ronnie and the eating..."good ol' chicken" ;D
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Did you happen to inquire about his controversial high-fat diet?
Over a couple days A LOT was discussed, so I honestly cannot remember. But I’d imagine so.
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I experienced the exact thing at 20 or after so reading an old Jason mueller article about eating to grow 3 days in body just said fuck it was up being sick several times through night not due to illness just of digestion being fucked up saying no more. Very unpleasant feeling
"Jason Mueller". That's going back a ways. Whatever happened to him? His board kept going even after he was gone. I think he got arrested and spent some time in jail.
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MANY bodybuilders have surpassed Ronnie in strength by now.
200 pound dumbell presses? No one cares. 800 deads? Big deal, let's see 900.
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MANY bodybuilders have surpassed Ronnie in strength by now.
200 pound dumbell presses? No one cares. 800 deads? Big deal, let's see 900.
My nikka
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"Jason Mueller". That's going back a ways. Whatever happened to him? His board kept going even after he was gone. I think he got arrested and spent some time in jail.
I not sure mate I remember dante who was friends with him in real life made a post years back how like you said he ended up in prison and had a run of bad luck where what few family he had died then went in different direction in life and they lost touch
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MANY bodybuilders have surpassed Ronnie in strength by now.
200 pound dumbell presses? No one cares. 800 deads? Big deal, let's see 900.
Dallas McCarver and Luke Sandoe comes to mind. Both stronger, both also payed the price.
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MANY bodybuilders have surpassed Ronnie in strength by now.
200 pound dumbell presses? No one cares. 800 deads? Big deal, let's see 900.
How do you know they surpassed Ronnie?
Are there ones doing 200-lb dumbbells for 15-20 reps vs. Ronnie's 12? Are they doing 800-lb deadlifts for double-digit reps vs Ronnie's 2 or 3?
Ronnie did those poundages while prepping for the Olympia (and other shows), in an era where everyone was told to train lighter for contests.
But, he also handled what would be max weights for most IFBB pros/NPC amateurs for at least 10 reps.
Perhaps more people are pushing that kind of iron, based on watching Mr. "Ain't Nuttin' but a Peanut" do his thing.
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Dallas McCarver and Luke Sandoe comes to mind. Both stronger, both also payed the price.
Johnnie Jackson is alive and well; so is Stan Efferding. And both are 50+
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What, pray tell, could possibly motivate a normal person to want to fuck their life up with drugs and enough food at every meal to feed a worthless turd world family of Ethiopians for a year on?
Coleman is a scab on the scrotum of the planet. He's not the greatest at anything. I doubt those 72 girls spat out by multiple "wives" of his are his cuz that fuckwit is sterile and has nuts the size of the ones on the last gerbil to escape from Richard Gere's dirtstar. Coleman for Deadpool.
Like the Knight in "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" said..."He chose poorly". Apparently, when it comes to emulating someone, so have you.
Wow you really are a hater Coleman is by far the greatest he would still win today with his build from 20 years ago no one has surpassed him yet
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I believe the topic was Ronnie Coleman footage from 20 years ago.
Nobody is talking about today, when he's obviously both retired and battling spinal injuries.
I find his current videos inspirational the dude doesn't let shit like half a dozen broken metal rods in his back slow him down but yes I agree with all your post about food that follow. I literally just ate an entire 2k calorie dessert after my steak for lunch and 2 chicken biscuit brekafast
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Everyone talking about how Ronnie destroyed his body because he had a few surgeries meanwhile the man is still sporting 20+ vascular guns and training. He is well on his way to a full recovery
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Wow you really are a hater Coleman is by far the greatest he would still win today with his build from 20 years ago no one has surpassed him yet
Punctuation, bitch. Use it.
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Wow you really are a hater Coleman is by far the greatest he would still win today with his build from 20 years ago no one has surpassed him yet
Coleman's a worthless sack of boneless flesh. And you? It's a wonder you find time to train and post here what with what surely must be multiple tours of doodie up Coleman's anus.
He is without a doubt doomed to die and be so dumb he won't realize it for days.
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Everyone talking about how Ronnie destroyed his body because he had a few surgeries meanwhile the man is still sporting 20+ vascular guns and training. He is well on his way to a full recovery
Yep. Him and Flex Wheeler will be training legs together.
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Dallas McCarver and Luke Sandoe comes to mind. Both stronger, both also payed the price.
They didn't pass his physique
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Coleman's a worthless sack of boneless flesh. And you? It's a wonder you find time to train and post here what with what surely must be multiple tours of doodie up Coleman's anus.
He is without a doubt doomed to die and be so dumb he won't realize it for days.
Let me guess You don't even lift
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Some believe Mamdouh "Big Ramy" Ellsbiay is the freak heir-apparent to Ronnie Coleman.
Chad Nicholls, Ronnie's former and Big Ramy's current coach, claims the reason Ramy finally nailed his condition in 2020 to win the big one is that he and Dennis James kept him on low carbs and two hours of cardio.
Nicholls claimed that Ramy's trainers in Kuwait just wanted to keep him big; so, they kept feeding him and would only drop his calories so far for contest prep.
he has too many flaws to be the next ronnie, and his conditioning where everybody said he "nailed it" at the last olympia was nothing special
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he has too many flaws to be the next ronnie, and his conditioning where everybody said he "nailed it" at the last olympia was nothing special
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The one flaw I see is his thighs being too big for his calves (Mike Katz, style).
He has to nail his condition. If he doesn't, smaller dudes with better proportions (Heath, Curry, or Rhoden...if they let him compete) will beat him.
Last year told the story. He was a bit smooth (relatively speaking) at 300 lbs and got beat the Arnold Classic by Dexter Jackson and William Bonac.
He got whipped into "shape" by James and Nicholls; he wins the Olympia.
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How do you know they surpassed Ronnie?
Are there ones doing 200-lb dumbbells for 15-20 reps vs. Ronnie's 12? Are they doing 800-lb deadlifts for double-digit reps vs Ronnie's 2 or 3?
Ronnie did those poundages while prepping for the Olympia (and other shows), in an era where everyone was told to train lighter for contests.
But, he also handled what would be max weights for most IFBB pros/NPC amateurs for at least 10 reps.
Perhaps more people are pushing that kind of iron, based on watching Mr. "Ain't Nuttin' but a Peanut" do his thing.
A agree with this. Ronnie was a monster, doing those weights for reps while prepping for a show. I have not seen anyone do 200 dumbbells for 12 easy reps or 495 bent over rows while dieting and being 4 wks out
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he has too many flaws to be the next ronnie, and his conditioning where everybody said he "nailed it" at the last olympia was nothing special
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He doesn't have Ronnie Shape. Ronnie wasn't just huge he had the V shape of Flex Wheeler not the blocky shape of every other so called mass monster.
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For a monster Ramy is pretty darn aesthetic. He doesn't have stomach distention and he isn't missing any body parts.
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For a monster Ramy is pretty darn aesthetic. He doesn't have stomach distention and he isn't missing any body parts.
Compared to his quads, it looks as if he's missing calves. But, Ronnie Coleman was that way for much of his career.
It all comes down to conditioning. If he's super-ripped, he wins. If he isn't, he'll lose to guys like Curry or Heath (although with Heath's waist issues, courtesy of his hernia, I'm not 100% sure about that).
Curry looked better at the Olympia in 2020 than he did when he won in 2019. But, Ellsbiay was just too much beast for him.
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Compared to his quads, it looks as if he's missing calves. But, Ronnie Coleman was that way for much of his career.
It all comes down to conditioning. If he's super-ripped, he wins. If he isn't, he'll lose to guys like Curry or Heath (although with Heath's waist issues, courtesy of his hernia, I'm not 100% sure about that).
Curry looked better at the Olympia in 2020 than he did when he won in 2019. But, Ellsbiay was just too much beast for him.
Ramy actually has calves. They are just overwhelmed by his quads.
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Ramy actually has calves. They are just overwhelmed by his quads.
Agreed. That's why he seemingly can't compete at three bills. Or, he'll lose to smaller guys as has happened previously (like Heath, Curry, Jackson).
When Heath was healthy, he beat Big Ramy (who tied Lou Ferrigno for heaviest Olympia competitor at 316 lbs).
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Motivates me more than today's stuff, what about you?
THE GOAT
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THE GOAT
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAH BUDYYYYYYYYY
Agreed. GOAT!
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The one flaw I see is his thighs being too big for his calves (Mike Katz, style).
He has to nail his condition. If he doesn't, smaller dudes with better proportions (Heath, Curry, or Rhoden...if they let him compete) will beat him.
Last year told the story. He was a bit smooth (relatively speaking) at 300 lbs and got beat the Arnold Classic by Dexter Jackson and William Bonac.
He got whipped into "shape" by James and Nicholls; he wins the Olympia.
if he's in shape he will win because he out muscles everybody else, but he will never be comparable to ronnie
the competition was weak last year, curry has no legs and phil's back looked like it lost slabs of muscle while being soft overall
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