Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Coach is Back! on September 05, 2021, 11:16:02 AM
-
Unbelievable
https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-cdc-endorsed-use-of-ivermectin-for-afghan-refugees?fbclid=IwAR3gzL2xl5zAy5Qhe2EwSOBAmy5y-wXFqG1U6uikKgdRiPZL_Dxfn_PfZXI
-
.
-
I thought this was "horse de-wormer".
Libs and their media backside buddies have been bashing Ivermectin for MONTHS, including that imbecile Ana Navarro (who can't tell the difference between vaccines to prevent coronavirus and medicines to treat people once they get coronavirus and get sick).
So, Ivermectin is the second coming of arsenic for American citizens with coronavirus; but it's perfectly fine for Afghan refugees, per the CDC?
This is the same group that said nearly a year and a half ago that masks were worthless to stop the spread of this bug.
The CDC can KMA, as far as I'm concerned. This is beyond absurd.
-
The scamdemic continues.
-
.
Am I reading this correctly? The CDC clowns are now recommending the "horse-dewormer" to PREVENT coronavirus?
-
Libturdz step on their own tongues every day. Dumb as the day as long, ugley as Michelle Obozo's ass-crack, and just as dirty.
Horrible kult o'kvntz...
-
Am I reading this correctly? The CDC clowns are now recommending the "horse-dewormer" to PREVENT coronavirus?
Only for Afghan’s I guess 🤷♂️
-
Coach,
Follow the link at the bottom of the snippet you posted. Looks like someone is picking and choosing just a tiny bit of the information to support misinformation and lies.
The information on the CDC linked page is incredibly more comprehensive.
Invermectin is recommended for parasites. This has nothing to do with recommending it for COVID-19, which they are not doing.
Would you prefer immigrants and refugees from countries known to have issues with parasites such as Bot Flies not be treated before entering the U.S. Look up Bot Flies in humans.
Here's just one example of what you'll find:
(https://external-preview.redd.it/6GCKcQSEtpOLV6SyElro6Extzoj3zhaNw_5JDnaztw4.jpg?auto=webp&s=ba8eb42118aa7a28157a4fdc594b96b3c4913010)
w.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/guidelines/overseas-guidelines.html
-
If it works it works
-
That could be on the other end of a glory-hole, just sayin...
-
Coach,
Follow the link at the bottom of the snippet you posted. Looks like someone is picking and choosing just a tiny bit of the information to support misinformation and lies.
The information on the CDC linked page is incredibly more comprehensive.
Invermectin is recommended for parasites. This has nothing to do with recommending it for COVID-19, which they are not doing.
Would you prefer immigrants and refugees from countries known to have issues with parasites such as Bot Flies not be treated before entering the U.S. Look up Bot Flies in humans.
Here's just one example of what you'll find:
(https://external-preview.redd.it/6GCKcQSEtpOLV6SyElro6Extzoj3zhaNw_5JDnaztw4.jpg?auto=webp&s=ba8eb42118aa7a28157a4fdc594b96b3c4913010)
w.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/guidelines/overseas-guidelines.html
So you actually trust the government to give you accurate information instead of them doing the complete opposite as they’ve always done?
https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-cdc-endorsed-use-of-ivermectin-for-afghan-refugees?fbclid=IwAR3gzL2xl5zAy5Qhe2EwSOBAmy5y-wXFqG1U6uikKgdRiPZL_Dxfn_PfZXI
-
This is unfucking believable. How does anyone trust the CDC?
-
This is unfucking believable. How does anyone trust the CDC?
These would be the same people that trust Fouci
-
These would be the same people that trust Fouci
And the MSM.
-
So you actually trust the government to give you accurate information instead of them doing the complete opposite as they’ve always done?
https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-cdc-endorsed-use-of-ivermectin-for-afghan-refugees?fbclid=IwAR3gzL2xl5zAy5Qhe2EwSOBAmy5y-wXFqG1U6uikKgdRiPZL_Dxfn_PfZXI
I trust the CDC, doctors and virologist more than I trust the random non-expertise opinions of folks on the internet and who sometimes have a personal agenda.
Not sure what your question has to do with this anyway. You posted an article with information that misleads people into thinking the CDC is being hypocritical, when in fact, they are recommending ivermectin for humans for what it was intended, which is to treat parasites. Ivermectin is a medication used for treating certain types of skin lesions and parasitic infections. People who need an ivermectin prescription can connect with a licensed medical provider who can prescribe ivermectin for humans. Medications intended for veterinary purposes can be easier to obtain without a prescription. The products meant for animals have different ingredients and have a larger concentration of the active ingredient that could be dangerous to a human.
-
........................ ........................ ...... and choosing just a tiny bit of the information to support misinformation and lies.
............like you never told supported lies & misinformations about Portland ANTIFA existence + how Trump feds kidnap peaceful protesters from that place.
-
............like you never told supported lies & misinformations about Portland ANTIFA existence + how Trump feds kidnap peaceful protesters from that place.
Yeah, I saw that and had to laugh. CDC information is hit and miss (mode miss) and Fouci has been a complete miss since AIDS. Dude is a complete political hack. But with some of he tells you how high to jump the lefts answer would be “how high”?
-
Yeah, I saw that and had to laugh. CDC information is hit and miss (mode miss) and Fouci has been a complete miss since AIDS. Dude is a complete political hack. But with some of he tells you how high to jump the lefts answer would be “how high”?
Since?
The guy is a shill for the medical establishment. Always has been. He had those poor booty bandits on 20 different drugs back in the 80’s.
-
I am not vaccinated I am trusting my immune system but again that also means I am not going to start taking horse dewormer or any other Covid preventative nonsense you don't want to die from COVID don't be obese make yourself strong enough to get through being sick train eat veggies get sunlight another pill is not the answer
-
;D
-
Since?
The guy is a shill for the medical establishment. Always has been. He had those poor booty bandits on 20 different drugs back in the 80’s.
He also works for the company who owns a RONA-Vax patent. Bizarre
-
I trust the CDC, doctors and virologist more than I trust the random non-expertise opinions of folks on the internet and who sometimes have a personal agenda.
Not sure what your question has to do with this anyway. You posted an article with information that misleads people into thinking the CDC is being hypocritical, when in fact, they are recommending ivermectin for humans for what it was intended, which is to treat parasites. Ivermectin is a medication used for treating certain types of skin lesions and parasitic infections. People who need an ivermectin prescription can connect with a licensed medical provider who can prescribe ivermectin for humans. Medications intended for veterinary purposes can be easier to obtain without a prescription. The products meant for animals have different ingredients and have a larger concentration of the active ingredient that could be dangerous to a human.
The hypocrisy isn't from the CDC, per se. It's from the media and political pundits, PRETENDING that humans haven't used this drug until now.
Unfortunately, some people are going to take shortcuts and get the veterinarian version of Ivermectin, much like bodybuilders getting veterinarian grades of steroids, as MuscleMag's "Uncensored" column used to mention. They're not as sanitary and can cause infections and other side effects.
-
https://www.ibtimes.sg/rolling-stone-under-fire-over-false-report-about-ivermectin-overdoses-preventing-gunshot-victims-60071
-
Simply crazy. MSM, big Pharma, Big Tech, and the Democratic party must be held to account. Suppressing information on therapeutics like IVM has cost hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions in national treasure. To what end? Profits for big pharma and big tech and control for the Democratic party. Don't forget what has been done to us.
-
Wheres Howard, does he know this veterinary product has a human grade version?
-
Simply crazy. MSM, big Pharma, Big Tech, and the Democratic party must be held to account. Suppressing information on therapeutics like IVM has cost hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions in national treasure. To what end? Profits for big pharma and big tech and control for the Democratic party. Don't forget what has been done to us.
What, are republicans going to save us? HA.
They had a mandate with Trump and slow rolled all that they could.
We are not in the club, figure it out folks.
-
What, are republicans going to save us? HA.
They had a mandate with Trump and slow rolled all that they could.
We are not in the club, figure it out folks.
I wouldn't say it was a mandate. You still have to weed out RINOs.
Remember Collins, Murkowski, and especially that bum McCain are the reasons we couldn't repeal ObamaCare.
And if McCain were still alive in late 2018, we don't get Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court.
-
Doctors have been using this drug on people for decades. Yes, animals and people share the same drugs but of course in different doses.
-
I wouldn't say it was a mandate. You still have to weed out RINOs.
Remember Collins, Murkowski, and especially that bum McCain are the reasons we couldn't repeal ObamaCare.
And if McCain were still alive in late 2018, we don't get Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court.
Big govt RINOs = most of the GOP party. As a whole the party is dumb to the leftist tactics and too slow to react to be an effective counter.
Fiscal conservatism has been lost as an issue...buried in covid printing and it doesn't buy votes. What are they going to run on, values and morality? Not in this day and age. It's about freebies and feelings.
Republicans want to part the country out a little more slowly than dems, other than that both have us on the same track. Judged on deeds not words.
-
............like you never told supported lies & misinformations about Portland ANTIFA existence + how Trump feds kidnap peaceful protesters from that place.
The Feds did kidnap/abduct/detain folks at random during at least one demonstration. Do you have valid information that says otherwise?
Federal Officers Use Unmarked Vehicles To Grab People In Portland, DHS Confirms
NPR - OPB July 2020
Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least Tuesday. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation about why they are being arrested, and driving off.
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland
-
Yeah, I saw that and had to laugh. CDC information is hit and miss (mode miss) and Fouci has been a complete miss since AIDS. Dude is a complete political hack. But with some of he tells you how high to jump the lefts answer would be “how high”?
Incompetency pay well. Dr. Anthony Fauci made $417,608 in 2019, the latest year for which federal salaries are available. That made him not only the highest paid doctor in the federal government, but the highest paid out of all four million federal employees.
In a ten-year period between 2010 and 2019, Fauci made $3.6 million in salary. Since 2014, Fauci’s pay increased from $335,000 to the current $417,608.
The 80-year-old Dr. Fauci holds a medical degree from Cornell University and began his 53-year career at NIH in 1968. He assumed his NIAID Director position in 1984 and has advised every president since President Ronald Reagan[/b].
-
The hypocrisy isn't from the CDC, per se. It's from the media and political pundits, PRETENDING that humans haven't used this drug until now.
Unfortunately, some people are going to take shortcuts and get the veterinarian version of Ivermectin, much like bodybuilders getting veterinarian grades of steroids, as MuscleMag's "Uncensored" column used to mention. They're not as sanitary and can cause infections and other side effects.
"Veterinary grade" drugs are just as good and clean as human grade drugs, there is no difference. What MMI talked about, Mexican veterinary steroids, were more like UG drugs. They weren't made for animals, they were made for the human black market. Even then they were usually just as good if the actors were serious. Just as people like Duchaine said - buy vet testosterone, it's the same, just cheaper.
I haven't looked at the Ivermectin paste, but unless it contains some unnecessary additives it's the same as the human drug.
Think about it, peoples pets or million dollar horses are every bit as important to them as humans, they aren't goung to accept substandard drugs for their dogs or whatever.
-
Since?
The guy is a shill for the medical establishment. Always has been. He had those poor booty bandits on 20 different drugs back in the 80’s.
Dr. Fauci was asked if he had millions of dollars invested in the vaccines. Dr. Fauci laughed and answered, “Matthew, no, I got zero! I am a government worker. I have a government salary.”
Being as how Dr. Fauci is the highest paid government employee, he'd be an idiot to accept gifts from the medical establishment or any other organization because it would not only cost him his job, he would be fined heavily.
He would also risk being charged and imprisoned.
The punishment for an offense under section 203, 204, 205, 207, 208, or 209 of this title is the following:
(1)Whoever engages in the conduct constituting the offense shall be imprisoned for not more than one year or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both.
(2)Whoever willfully engages in the conduct constituting the offense shall be imprisoned for not more than five years or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both.
https://www.ethics.usda.gov/rules/guides/deskref.htm#3_1
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/208
-
Dr. Fauci was asked if he had millions of dollars invested in the vaccines. Dr. Fauci laughed and answered, “Matthew, no, I got zero! I am a government worker. I have a government salary.”
Being as how Dr. Fauci is the highest paid government employee, he'd be an idiot to accept gifts from the medical establishment or any other organization because it would not only cost him his job, he would be fined heavily.
He would also risk being charged and imprisoned.
The punishment for an offense under section 203, 204, 205, 207, 208, or 209 of this title is the following:
(1)Whoever engages in the conduct constituting the offense shall be imprisoned for not more than one year or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both.
(2)Whoever willfully engages in the conduct constituting the offense shall be imprisoned for not more than five years or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both.
https://www.ethics.usda.gov/rules/guides/deskref.htm#3_1
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/208
And you actually believe him? He’s a Bureaucrat leading this debacle. His been in for 6 Presidents. He’s among the dirtiest in this country and at this point makes Stalin look innocent
-
He also works for the company who owns a RONA-Vax patent. Bizarre
It would be bizarre if true. It would also be and ethics violation that would cost him his extremely high paying government job, he'd be fined and maybe even imprisoned.
-
And you actually believe him? He’s a Bureaucrat leading this debacle. His been in for 6 Presidents. He’s among the dirtiest in this country and at this point makes Stalin look innocent
I believe him because he stood and still stands to lose more than he could gain as well as his freedom. That he's held his position since Reagan was president actually supports his honesty and integrity. Would not your buddy Trump have fired him? It's not like Fauci didn't ever publicly disagree with Trump. Trump had no qualms about firing and discrediting anyone he didn't like.
-
"Veterinary grade" drugs are just as good and clean as human grade drugs, there is no difference. What MMI talked about, Mexican veterinary steroids, were more like UG drugs. They weren't made for animals, they were made for the human black market. Even then they were usually just as good if the actors were serious. Just as people like Duchaine said - buy vet testosterone, it's the same, just cheaper.
I haven't looked at the Ivermectin paste, but unless it contains some unnecessary additives it's the same as the human drug.
Think about it, peoples pets or million dollar horses are every bit as important to them as humans, they aren't goung to accept substandard drugs for their dogs or whatever.
Then why do you see veterinarian-grade drugs with big red letters that say, "Veterinarian use only; not fit for human consumption" or something to that effect?
Dan Duchaine was one of MuscleMag's (Greg Zulak, in particular) favorite sources on anabolics. Zulak repeatedly told horror stories of bodybuilders getting infections or sickness, using roids meant for horses and cattle instead of people.
Why would Mexico need a steroid black market when those substances are perfectly legal? When I went on vacation to Mexico four years ago, my wife was looking for a pharmacy to get a pain reliever. We found one and while looking for the medicine she requested, I saw a row of anabolics drugs (mostly testosterone). It was right next to the aspirin or Tylenol.
If I recall also, wasn't the scuttlebutt that a lot of bodybuilders moved to California, so they could jump the border to get their anabolics legally? Some even injected their substance in Mexico, rather than risk smuggling them across the US border and getting arrested.
-
I believe him because he stood and still stands to lose more than he could gain as well as his freedom. That he's held his position since Reagan was president actually supports his honesty and integrity. Would not your buddy Trump have fired him? It's not like Fauci didn't ever publicly disagree with Trump. Trump had no qualms about firing and discrediting anyone he didn't like.
(https://s1.qwant.com/thumbr/700x0/1/5/f40b44d65a693c43a0cdd52e757a00c7d1c6d8a48221d5bae27289a55ae73e/4a1uvy.jpg?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F4a1uvy.jpg&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0)
-
I believe him because he stood and still stands to lose more than he could gain as well as his freedom. That he's held his position since Reagan was president actually supports his honesty and integrity. Would not your buddy Trump have fired him? It's not like Fauci didn't ever publicly disagree with Trump. Trump had no qualms about firing and discrediting anyone he didn't like.
When was the last time a prominent Dem lost anything because of wrongdoing? I honestly didn’t think you were this naive. Does it bother you that Fouci’s wife is the Chief of Bioethics at the NIH?
-
I believe him because he stood and still stands to lose more than he could gain as well as his freedom. That he's held his position since Reagan was president actually supports his honesty and integrity. Would not your buddy Trump have fired him? It's not like Fauci didn't ever publicly disagree with Trump. Trump had no qualms about firing and discrediting anyone he didn't like.
Trump was interviewed the other day he said "America is run by a cartel, not Biden"
He knows the President doesnt have the final say.
-
The Feds did kidnap/abduct/detain folks at random during at least one demonstration. Do you have valid information that says otherwise?
Federal Officers Use Unmarked Vehicles To Grab People In Portland, DHS Confirms
NPR - OPB July 2020
Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least Tuesday. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation about why they are being arrested, and driving off.
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland
RE-READ your OWN posts , SENILE old fuck !.
-
Then why do you see veterinarian-grade drugs with big red letters that say, "Veterinarian use only; not fit for human consumption" or something to that effect?
Dan Duchaine was one of MuscleMag's (Greg Zulak, in particular) favorite sources on anabolics. Zulak repeatedly told horror stories of bodybuilders getting infections or sickness, using roids meant for horses and cattle instead of people.
Why would Mexico need a steroid black market when those substances are perfectly legal? When I went on vacation to Mexico four years ago, my wife was looking for a pharmacy to get a pain reliever. We found one and while looking for the medicine she requested, I saw a row of anabolics drugs (mostly testosterone). It was right next to the aspirin or Tylenol.
If I recall also, wasn't the scuttlebutt that a lot of bodybuilders moved to California, so they could jump the border to get their anabolics legally? Some even injected their substance in Mexico, rather than risk smuggling them across the US border and getting arrested.
THIS :D
Hey, how many bodybears died from eating horse meat ;D
-
Then why do you see veterinarian-grade drugs with big red letters that say, "Veterinarian use only; not fit for human consumption" or something to that effect?
Dan Duchaine was one of MuscleMag's (Greg Zulak, in particular) favorite sources on anabolics. Zulak repeatedly told horror stories of bodybuilders getting infections or sickness, using roids meant for horses and cattle instead of people.
Why would Mexico need a steroid black market when those substances are perfectly legal? When I went on vacation to Mexico four years ago, my wife was looking for a pharmacy to get a pain reliever. We found one and while looking for the medicine she requested, I saw a row of anabolics drugs (mostly testosterone). It was right next to the aspirin or Tylenol.
If I recall also, wasn't the scuttlebutt that a lot of bodybuilders moved to California, so they could jump the border to get their anabolics legally? Some even injected their substance in Mexico, rather than risk smuggling them across the US border and getting arrested.
The warning is just some bureucratic thing. So people are discouraged from buying cheaper vet drugs.
The Mexicans made "vet steroids" expressly for the US black market. There is very little market for anabolics in Mexico. Real vet anabolics used for actual animals might be some 50mg/ml boldenone and some Winstrol or whatever. But then you suddenly had 200-300mg/ml boldenone (Equipoise) and every single anabolic that had buyers among bodybuilders. They were never used on any animals, that's for sure. There were some US nationals starting UG labs down there, called them vet steroids because they thought this would somehow add a layer of protection from US prosecution. Duchaine I think had some lab there. Recently a video was posted here about a bodybuilder who started a UG lab there about 15+ years back, called Stallion labs or something Lol. The feds came after him regardless. The Mexican vet market was shut down in like 2006 in operation gear grinder of whatever it was called.
So, any problems with the products really had to do with them being semi-underground black market labs. No one really ever had problems with the "real" vet drugs like the 50mg Equipoise. You make it 300mg instead with too many solvents and there may be the occasional problem, they were reportedly often painful etc. They simply were too amateurish. They didn't brew them expertly like real vet drugs.
You simply do not understand the steroid world. Nothing wrong with that, it's obvious you aren't involved in it yourself so why would you know.
"Read this now, believe me later: Sustanon 250 is NO BETTER than any other kind of testosterone, and it’s much more expensive. Two pre-loads (or ampoules) cost between $30 and $40 on the US black market. An equivalent amount of veterinary grade testosterone costs less than $10. Foreign veterinary drugs are the best buys. Don’t be surprised if the label has a picture of farm animals on it, or some unintelligible Spanish words. These drugs are JUST AS CLEAN AND POTENT as their American counterparts. But, hey, it’s your cash"
- from a Dan Duchaine article. Dan knew the steroid world inside and out.
-
The Feds did kidnap/abduct/detain folks at random during at least one demonstration. Do you have valid information that says otherwise?
Federal Officers Use Unmarked Vehicles To Grab People In Portland, DHS Confirms
NPR - OPB July 2020
Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least Tuesday. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation about why they are being arrested, and driving off.
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland
Where are these people that were taken? What happened to them?
-
Oh no, Swedish gossiping grandma is back ::).
-
Oh no, Swedish gossiping grandma is back ::).
LoL. If you have a problem with what I posted let's hear it. ::) :D
Real vet drugs are clean and not dangerous for human consumption. Provided the drug has a human use indication. They don't become dangerous if they have a packaging that says "veterinary" on it. Please prove otherwise. Many human pharm companies have veterinary divisions - do you think they have any reason to make the vet drugs dirty? Do you think someone who owns a million dollar racehorse gives it dirty drugs? The only difference is that the vet drug may be in paste form so the fucking horse can't spit it out :D
Do you think fucking Pfizer makes dirty Equipoise?
-
Naive old grandma, race horses get more tested than any bodybears !.
It's a billion $$$ industry in Australia !.
-
Naive old grandma, race horses get more tested than any bodybears !.
It's a billion $$$ industry in Australia !.
What the fuck are you even saying? I have no idea.
You are so fucking stupid you don't even know the legality of steroids in Thailand, a place you claim to visit. :D
-
The warning is just some bureucratic thing. So people are discouraged from buying cheaper vet drugs.
The Mexicans made "vet steroids" expressly for the US black market. There is very little market for anabolics in Mexico. Real vet anabolics used for actual animals might be some 50mg/ml boldenone and some Winstrol or whatever. But then you suddenly had 200-300mg/ml boldenone (Equipoise) and every single anabolic that had buyers among bodybuilders. They were never used on any animals, that's for sure. There were some US nationals starting UG labs down there, called them vet steroids because they thought this would somehow add a layer of protection from US prosecution. Duchaine I think had some lab there. Recently a video was posted here about a bodybuilder who started a UG lab there about 15+ years back, called Stallion labs or something Lol. The feds came after him regardless. The Mexican vet market was shut down in like 2006 in operation gear grinder of whatever it was called.
So, any problems with the products really had to do with them being semi-underground black market labs. No one really ever had problems with the "real" vet drugs like the 50mg Equipoise. You make it 300mg instead with too many solvents and there may be the occasional problem, they were reportedly often painful etc. They simply were too amateurish. They didn't brew them expertly like real vet drugs.
You simply do not understand the steroid world. Nothing wrong with that, it's obvious you aren't involved in it yourself so why would you know.
"Read this now, believe me later: Sustanon 250 is NO BETTER than any other kind of testosterone, and it’s much more expensive. Two pre-loads (or ampoules) cost between $30 and $40 on the US black market. An equivalent amount of veterinary grade testosterone costs less than $10. Foreign veterinary drugs are the best buys. Don’t be surprised if the label has a picture of farm animals on it, or some unintelligible Spanish words. These drugs are JUST AS CLEAN AND POTENT as their American counterparts. But, hey, it’s your cash"
- from a Dan Duchaine article. Dan knew the steroid world inside and out.
I understand not to take veterinarian steroids, meant for animals, ESPECIALLY off the recommendation of a "Steroid Guru" whose physique looked like utter garbage. If there's one guy who dispels the "all drugs" mantra, often spewed on GetBig, it was Dan Duchaine.
Of course, there are going to be red flags if you manufacture steroids in doses FOUR to SIX times as strong as what you've give to a horse or cow and give it to people. That's a dead giveaway that such isn't being used for medicinal purposes, in humans or animals (similar to the late Chris Benoit getting TEN TIMES the amount of steroids needed for his special-needs son).
As far as Mexico goes, other so-called steroid gurus have warned that anabolics in Mexico aren't exactly made in the most sterile of environments and often contain about 70% of the advertised amount of the drug.
You are also reinforcing my point. The reason Ivermectin is getting a needless bad rap is because leftist pundits and media types keep pushing the narrative that people are taking the veterinarian grade version of the drug, instead of the one for humans that has been used for decades safely.
If someone said there's no difference between the animal and human version of a drug, he'd be bashed and laughed to scorn.
-
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/
-
As far as Mexico goes, other so-called steroid gurus have warned that anabolics in Mexico aren't exactly made in the most sterile of environments and often contain about 70% of the advertised amount of the drug.
You are also reinforcing my point. The reason Ivermectin is getting a needless bad rap is because leftist pundits and media types keep pushing the narrative that people are taking the veterinarian grade version of the drug, instead of the one for humans that has been used for decades safely.
If someone said there's no difference between the animal and human version of a drug, he'd be bashed and laughed to scorn.
You still do not understand. Veterinary drugs are made by major pharmaceutical companies in the same labs that the human drugs are made. There is absolutely no reason why they would put together dirty or mislabeled drugs for animals. Owners of animals would not accept that their animals were getting abcesses or got sick from crappy drugs. Steroid users used to, and still do, make injectable tren from veterinary Finaplix implants. Absolutely no indication that it was substandard, quite opposite. And this is brewing it in a kitchen without bacteria controlled rooms and without probably removing all the glue and/or estrogen from the pellets.
Again, you are basing what you say on muscle magazine articles about products made by clandestine actors, at a specific time in history, in a corrupt country for the black market. Of course that invites the chance of crappy products for natural reasons. But if you get veterinary Pfizer Equipoise or Winstrol-V or test suspension they are going to be as good as any human equivalent. Back about 20-25 years ago I used Aussie vet steroids and they were fantastic, clean and properly dosed.
Now as far as the veterinary Ivermectin paste. Without researching it I would bet it has never been proven to be either dirty or misdosed or caused any problems in humans compared to the human equivalent. If you have evidence otherwise let me know. Have people been getting sick from it?
I never used Mexican vet products specifically being in Europe but I did use Aussie Jurox steroids. It was clean and potent, only negative was that it clogged needles not being micronized.
-
What the fuck are you even saying? I have no idea.
You are so fucking stupid you don't even know the legality of steroids in Thailand, a place you claim to visit. :D
So why is this pissing you off , who give a fuck about the legality of AS in Sweden,Mongolia,Chad, or........... !.
-
(https://s1.qwant.com/thumbr/700x0/1/5/f40b44d65a693c43a0cdd52e757a00c7d1c6d8a48221d5bae27289a55ae73e/4a1uvy.jpg?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F4a1uvy.jpg&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0)
LOL! Kind of lame, but funny never-the-less. If COVID includes flu like symptoms, butt plugs might come in handy. ;D
-
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/
fake news 8)
you are so naive ::)
-
So why is this pissing you off , who give a fuck about the legality of AS in Sweden,Mongolia,Chad, or........... !.
Because you are telling me I don't know shit :D
I checked the legality of steroids in Thailand. They are NOT legal to sell without a prescription. Just because you can order it from "pharmacy beside 7 / 11 !!! via courier" doesn't make it legal. You act like you are the authority but it's you who don't know shit and grandma does. Just ask Tony Huge and you will get the same response. They sell these OTC because the pharmacists pay off the cops and/or remove the drugs when they hear the police are doing inspections.
You can also buy weed "OTC" in Thailand. Does it make it legal? Fuck no.
I am not pissed off but I am not going to let some retard call me an idiot :D
-
Now as far as the veterinary Ivermectin paste. Without researching it I would bet it has never been proven to be either dirty or misdosed or caused any problems in humans compared to the human equivalent. If you have evidence otherwise let me know. Have people been getting sick from it?
Now I did a quick google and here is a doctor warning about vet Ivermectin:
“Let’s say it was manufactured for a large horse, but a human takes it, it can create low blood pressure, rapid heart rates, seizures, there are even episodes where you can see layers of your skinfall off,” said Speights. “It can damage the liver, and there’s vision loss that can be associated.”
Now what is he saying? Read between the lines. He says stupid consumers may inadvertently overdose it because they can't read labels to convert for proper human dose. He doesn't say anything about it being dirty or mislabeled. This is them just trying to protect the retards who self-prescribe and don't know what they're doing.
-
Because you are telling me I don't know shit :D
I checked the legality of steroids in Thailand. They are NOT legal to sell without a prescription. Just because you can order it from "pharmacy beside 7 / 11 !!! via courier" doesn't make it legal. You act like you are the authority but it's you who don't know shit and grandma does. Just ask Tony Huge and you will get the same response. They sell these OTC because the pharmacists pay off the cops and/or remove the drugs when they hear the police are doing inspections.
You can also buy weed "OTC" in Thailand. Does it make it legal? Fuck no.
I am not pissed off but I am not going to let some retard call me an idiot :D
I buy ILLEGAL AS/HGH just to PISS U OFF !. Happy NOW !.
Get a LIFE naive old fart !.
-
When was the last time a prominent Dem lost anything because of wrongdoing? I honestly didn’t think you were this naive. Does it bother you that Fouci’s wife is the Chief of Bioethics at the NIH?
I don't believe I am naïve, but you are obviously misguided and misinformed.
Dr. Fauci is unaffiliated and not a Democrat, which might have some bearing on why he's held his position for such a long time under both Democratic and Republican Presidents. To be exact it is four Republican Presidents and three, including Biden, Democratic Presidents.
As to 'who gets caught with their pants down' politically speaking, they are unfortunately but not unexpectedly folks from all political affiliations and much to the dismay of those who are politically polarized who would rather it be one party or another. There are good people and bad people on both sides of the fence.
Actually, it doesn't bother me at all what his wife's work is. Because if her job presented a conflict of interest, either she or her husband would have to give up their position. I am a retired public employee and a union activist. I have just a tiny bit of knowledge about these things based on personal experience representing other public employees and because of my 30 year involvement in political activism.
The COVID-19 vaccines received emergency use approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, not the NIH. Grady and her staff teach medical ethics and research ethical issues related to medicine and clinical research. Dr. Grady does not approve the conduct of any research protocol and she has no input into the FDA process for issuing emergency use authorizations.
Throw out all the red herrings you want Coach, the facts will eventually prove them false.
-
RE-READ your OWN posts , SENILE old fuck !.
Have a nice day.
If you have proof of that I once said this, post it.
-
Ivermectin OK For Afghan Refugees, Hospitals Filled With 'Vaccinated' Americans. Stew Peters Show on Rumble.
https://rumble.com/vm62ig-ivermectin-ok-for-afghan-refugees-hospitals-filled-with-vaccinated-american.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Stew+Peters+Show&ep=1
-
Have a nice day.
If you have proof of that I once said this, post it.
Saggy, yours memory is Auf Wiedersehen ::) ::) ::)
-
I don't believe I am naïve, but you are obviously misguided and misinformed.
And you aren't? The shite you are saying Joe does, you do w/ CNN and libturd sites.
MSM lie's, we're all misguided, no one knows WTF is going on. (Except constant lie's by most, and truth by very few).
People write news articles with their feelings, not actual science...
-
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/
Libturds, LOL.
The braindead kvnts of the western-world.
Demturd->(http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/laughat.gif)<-Coma Patients
-
Libturds, LOL.
The braindead kvnts of the western-world.
Demturd->(http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/laughat.gif)<-Coma Patients
YouTube is laughing @ RS rag !.
-
I don't believe I am naïve, but you are obviously misguided and misinformed.
Dr. Fauci is unaffiliated and not a Democrat, which might have some bearing on why he's held his position for such a long time under both Democratic and Republican Presidents. To be exact it is four Republican Presidents and three, including Biden, Democratic Presidents.
As to 'who gets caught with their pants down' politically speaking, they are unfortunately but not unexpectedly folks from all political affiliations and much to the dismay of those who are politically polarized who would rather it be one party or another. There are good people and bad people on both sides of the fence.
Actually, it doesn't bother me at all what his wife's work is. Because if her job presented a conflict of interest, either she or her husband would have to give up their position. I am a retired public employee and a union activist. I have just a tiny bit of knowledge about these things based on personal experience representing other public employees and because of my 30 year involvement in political activism.
The COVID-19 vaccines received emergency use approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, not the NIH. Grady and her staff teach medical ethics and research ethical issues related to medicine and clinical research. Dr. Grady does not approve the conduct of any research protocol and she has no input into the FDA process for issuing emergency use authorizations.
Throw out all the red herrings you want Coach, the facts will eventually prove them false.
You’re incredibly naive. Did I also mention that Fouci donated to Clinton's campaign?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rand-paul-wuhan-documents-fauci-lied
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/09/07/report-top-scientist-claims-anthony-fauci-untruthful-about-chinese-lab-research/
-
And you aren't? The shite you are saying Joe does, you do w/ CNN and libturd sites.
MSM lie's, we're all misguided, no one knows WTF is going on. (Except constant lie's by most, and truth by very few).
People write news articles with their feelings, not actual science...
I agree that the media is suspect regardless of political bias and that of its writers/reporters. Some of those sites you refer to as 'libturd' are not media per se but medical and scientific sites. Some people trust no one and nothing. It's a hell of a way to live one's life. If everyone did this, we'd still be in the dark ages. I've been around a lot of years and have witnessed many advances in science and medicine....plus a few horrendous mistakes.
Maybe it is just lately that Coach started this, but posting snippets of an issue that come nowhere close to covering all that is known or believed to be known seems intentional. Lying by omission is still lying.
-
Saggy, yours memory is Auf Wiedersehen ::) ::) ::)
Okay sure, then prove that it is.
-
You’re incredibly naive
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rand-paul-wuhan-documents-fauci-lied
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/09/07/report-top-scientist-claims-anthony-fauci-untruthful-about-chinese-lab-research/
Paul Ryan says.....well then, it must be so. ::)
Richard Ebright is the only 'scientist' mentioned in the Breitbart article....why then does the headline read like it is multiple scientists? ::)
It is interesting that you posted a video of Dr. Fauci completely owning Rand Paul. 'Rand Paul Yells More, Listens Less In Yet Another Hearing With Anthony Fauci' IMO, Rand Paul is an asshole and this video proves it.
Senator Rand Paul failed to disclose for a year wife's purchase of COVID drug company stock. Under a 2012 law called the Stock Act, which was enacted to stop lawmakers from trading on insider information, any such sale should have been reported within 45 days.
-
You still do not understand. Veterinary drugs are made by major pharmaceutical companies in the same labs that the human drugs are made. There is absolutely no reason why they would put together dirty or mislabeled drugs for animals. Owners of animals would not accept that their animals were getting abcesses or got sick from crappy drugs. Steroid users used to, and still do, make injectable tren from veterinary Finaplix implants. Absolutely no indication that it was substandard, quite opposite. And this is brewing it in a kitchen without bacteria controlled rooms and without probably removing all the glue and/or estrogen from the pellets.
Again, you are basing what you say on muscle magazine articles about products made by clandestine actors, at a specific time in history, in a corrupt country for the black market. Of course that invites the chance of crappy products for natural reasons. But if you get veterinary Pfizer Equipoise or Winstrol-V or test suspension they are going to be as good as any human equivalent. Back about 20-25 years ago I used Aussie vet steroids and they were fantastic, clean and properly dosed.
Now as far as the veterinary Ivermectin paste. Without researching it I would bet it has never been proven to be either dirty or misdosed or caused any problems in humans compared to the human equivalent. If you have evidence otherwise let me know. Have people been getting sick from it?
I never used Mexican vet products specifically being in Europe but I did use Aussie Jurox steroids. It was clean and potent, only negative was that it clogged needles not being micronized.
"Clean" for horses is one thing; "clean" for humans is quite another.
I haven't heard of anyone getting sick from Ivermectin, aside from that now-proven BOGUS article from Rolling Stone. Again, the whole narrative is that a bunch of stupid rednecks are taking "horse de-wormers", instead of being "smart" and getting the vaccine.
Most people about whom I've read taking Ivermectin are being prescribed it from their doctors. And they are using the version made for humans, not animals. There's no "black market" thing for IVM, like what I described earlier when mentioning bodybuilders using veterinary grades of steroids.
-
Libturds, LOL.
The braindead kvnts of the western-world.
Demturd->(http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/images/smilies/laughat.gif)<-Coma Patients
What does this have to do with political affiliation?
-
fake news 8)
you are so naive ::)
How is it fake exactly?
-
YouTube is laughing @ RS rag !.
https://news.yahoo.com/kentucky-gov-beshear-says-taking-174106462.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
-
"Clean" for horses is one thing; "clean" for humans is quite another.
Lol you don't know wtf you're talking about, you have nothing to back up this assertion. You think Pfizer is brewing Equipoise with rusty lab equipment in a latrine or something? Why in the fuck would they when they have state of the art labs? A vet injectable says sterile, and by sterile they don't mean half-sterile. Either it is or isn't.
-
"Clean" for horses is one thing; "clean" for humans is quite another.
Do you think they would inject multi million dollar racehorses with shit?
-
Now I did a quick google and here is a doctor warning about vet Ivermectin:
“Let’s say it was manufactured for a large horse, but a human takes it, it can create low blood pressure, rapid heart rates, seizures, there are even episodes where you can see layers of your skinfall off,” said Speights. “It can damage the liver, and there’s vision loss that can be associated.”
Now what is he saying? Read between the lines. He says stupid consumers may inadvertently overdose it because they can't read labels to convert for proper human dose. He doesn't say anything about it being dirty or mislabeled. This is them just trying to protect the retards who self-prescribe and don't know what they're doing.
Bingo
Stupid humans are going to veterinary supply stores and buying medicine in doses designed for horses and cows and I doubt the packaging has any kind of instructions on how to titrate the dose for humans (why would they bother with that?)
-
Bingo
Stupid humans are going to veterinary supply stores and buying medicine in doses designed for horses and cows and I doubt the packaging has any kind of instructions on how to titrate the dose for humans (why would they bother with that?)
Yes, but before they take it, they consult with Getbiggers who of course know just how much is enough like they do with ABS.
-
Do you think they would inject multi million dollar racehorses with shit?
Yes. These racehorses are genetically bred to be the best of the best, with no cost spared, and then are given 2nd rate medical treatment to save on expenses.
Most veterinary clinics have lower quality medications in their backrooms for pets without insurance.
-
Paul Ryan says.....well then, it must be so. ::)
Richard Ebright is the only 'scientist' mentioned in the Breitbart article....why then does the headline read like it is multiple scientists? ::)
It is interesting that you posted a video of Dr. Fauci completely owning Rand Paul. 'Rand Paul Yells More, Listens Less In Yet Another Hearing With Anthony Fauci' IMO, Rand Paul is an asshole and this video proves it.
Senator Rand Paul failed to disclose for a year wife's purchase of COVID drug company stock. Under a 2012 law called the Stock Act, which was enacted to stop lawmakers from trading on insider information, any such sale should have been reported within 45 days.
You know what I find funny.... is that there’s a Fouci thread on poli board that you’ve avoided like the plague
-
There are plenty of credible sources and doctors touting Ivermectin and Monoclonal antibodies as alternative treatments.
Why would conversation around possible alternate measures be suppressed?
Perhaps the dumbasses who took the horse version wouldn't have had there been more readily available information.
People are losing sight of what's important. Things need to be questioned and discussed openly, and not decided by facebook and twitter.
-
There are plenty of credible sources and doctors touting Ivermectin and Monoclonal antibodies as alternative treatments.
Why would conversation around possible alternate measures be suppressed?
Perhaps the dumbasses who took the horse version wouldn't have had there been more readily available information.
But their not left wing shills that get paid to come up studies that contradict the narrative
-
Lol you don't know wtf you're talking about, you have nothing to back up this assertion. You think Pfizer is brewing Equipoise with rusty lab equipment in a latrine or something? Why in the fuck would they when they have state of the art labs? A vet injectable says sterile, and by sterile they don't mean half-sterile. Either it is or isn't.
No point arguing with him.
The steroids in Mexico are made in the exact same labs as other medicines. I've seen the labs.
Now there are underground labs too, just like we have in the USA, but that is completely different.
The Test/Deca/Primo i purchase in Juarez is made the exact same way the Test i get with a prescription here in the states. Same exact manufacturing standards. They have big name Pharma companies in Mexico too. People are ignorant of this.
The Vet drugs are made by the same standards as human grade. Same lab, same equipment, same company.
They are labeled "not for humans" due to insurance reasons. The product is exactly the same. Just like Amoxicillin for fish is the same as humans, it's just administered differently. You can buy it without a prescription in the states for "fish".
The GH i have purchased in Mexico is amazing too.
You can also get pain killers, anti anxiety meds, insulin, etc. All over the counter. Most pharmacies will only sell you a 30-day supply, some go up to 90-days.
Just be careful crossing the border. If you need a script for it in the US, you will need it to cross the border into the US.
Or get creative. ;D
-
There are plenty of credible sources and doctors touting Ivermectin and Monoclonal antibodies as alternative treatments.
Why would conversation around possible alternate measures be suppressed?
Perhaps the dumbasses who took the horse version wouldn't have had there been more readily available information.
People are losing sight of what's important. Things need to be questioned and discussed openly, and not decided by facebook and twitter.
Monoclonal Antibody Treatment is approved by the FDA as an initial treatment for mild cases of Covid
Ivermectin is not
That's the difference
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-additional-monoclonal-antibody-treatment-covid-19
-
Monoclonal Antibody Treatment is approved by the FDA as an initial treatment for mild cases of Covid
Ivermectin is not
That's the difference
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-additional-monoclonal-antibody-treatment-covid-19
True, but I think that may change.
But taking the human version of ivermectin seems to be safe.
Let your doctor decide for you.
-
There are plenty of credible sources and doctors touting Ivermectin and Monoclonal antibodies as alternative treatments.
Why would conversation around possible alternate measures be suppressed?
Perhaps the dumbasses who took the horse version wouldn't have had there been more readily available information.
People are losing sight of what's important. Things need to be questioned and discussed openly, and not decided by facebook and twitter.
Geez you fucking blowhard. Take your sanity and reason somewhere else!
:D
-
True, but I think that may change.
But taking the human version of ivermectin seems to be safe.
Let your doctor decide for you.
of course
If a doctor chooses to prescribe the human version of the anti-worming drug that's their business
Of course the State Medical Board might have something to say about it
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/08/27/arkansas-doctor-prescribed-ivermectin-thousands-covid/5614255001/
-
https://www.ibtimes.sg/rolling-stone-under-fire-over-false-report-about-ivermectin-overdoses-preventing-gunshot-victims-60071
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/the-great-ivermectin-deworming-hoax/article_19b8f2a6-0f29-11ec-94c1-4725bf4978c6.html
The great Ivermectin deworming hoax
"In a normal year, the Kentucky Poison Control Center might receive one call from someone who has taken ivermectin, a drug commonly used to treat parasites in livestock. But amid increasing misinformation about the drug’s ability to both treat and prevent COVID-19, that number has increased to six this year."
This alarming news was published in Spectrum News - formerly known as Time Warner Cable - on August 24, 2021, and should be a lesson to every American.
https://spectrumnews1.com/ky/louisville/news/2021/08/24/ivermectin-calls-to-kentucky-poison-control-are-up
The lesson is not about Ivermectin being poisonous because it isn't, but about the pervasiveness of a type of new internet propaganda termed "informational flooding.”
https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/12274299/Roberts_gsas.harvard_0084L_11469.pdf?sequence=1
In an even more “alarming” report, NPR wrote,
"Minnesota's Poison Control System is dealing with the same problem. According to the department, only one Ivermectin exposure case [telephone call] was reported in July, but in August, the figure jumped to nine."
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/04/1034217306/ivermectin-overdose-exposure-cases-poison-control-centers
Are you kidding me? Nine telephone calls are enough to make the news? We have 2,213 deaths on August 26 from COVID-19, but these nine telephone calls are enough to make the headlines?
We have a media blackout on how India used cheap Ivermectin to obliterate the Delta variant while we struggle unsuccessfully to sell the public on problematic yet profitable vaccines.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/indias-ivermectin-blackout
The CDC coordinates all 55 poison control centers across the nation, and they are closely aligned with the FDA, which we now know is captured by Big Pharma. more on this later.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537316/
Suddenly we see hundreds of articles on so-called "Ivermectin poisoning.” Indeed, we see more ARTICLES published than there were TELEPHONE CALLS in August on Ivermectin to poison control centers in the ENTIRE NATION.
NPR reports that during the period January 1 to August 31, there were 1,143 Ivermectin telephone calls to poison control centers which works out to 143 calls per month.
The Mississippi State Department of Health was careful to clarify that although telephone calls to poison control had increased, the vast majority of callers had only mild symptoms, and there were “no hospitalizations due to Ivermectin toxicity.”
https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/resources/15400.pdf
-
Are people still taking Hydroxychloroquine for Covid?
-
Are people still taking Hydroxychloroquine for Covid?
Probably.
-
Bingo
Stupid humans are going to veterinary supply stores and buying medicine in doses designed for horses and cows and I doubt the packaging has any kind of instructions on how to titrate the dose for humans (why would they bother with that?)
BoB you know shit about BB, boys crash those tablets ,mix powder with water & inject them selfs !.
It's call beefing ;).
-
No point arguing with him.
The steroids in Mexico are made in the exact same labs as other medicines. I've seen the labs.
--snip--
You can also get pain killers, anti anxiety meds, insulin, etc. All over the counter. Most pharmacies will only sell you a 30-day supply, some go up to 90-days.
Just be careful crossing the border. If you need a script for it in the US, you will need it to cross the border into the US.
Or get creative. ;D
(http://i.postimg.cc/8km4xZZz/5m8vn5.jpg)
-
Monoclonal Antibody Treatment is approved by the FDA as an initial treatment for mild cases of Covid
Ivermectin is not
That's the difference
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-additional-monoclonal-antibody-treatment-covid-19
You’re a pathetic sheep.
-
Are people still taking Hydroxychloroquine for Covid?
Yep. Ivermectin, HCQ, aspirin and 1 other drug are all taken. This cocktail is known as the 4 horsemen to beat Covid.
-
(http://i.postimg.cc/8km4xZZz/5m8vn5.jpg)
;D