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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2021, 10:21:43 PM »

As far as Mexico goes, other so-called steroid gurus have warned that anabolics in Mexico aren't exactly made in the most sterile of environments and often contain about 70% of the advertised amount of the drug.

You are also reinforcing my point. The reason Ivermectin is getting a needless bad rap is because leftist pundits and media types keep pushing the narrative that people are taking the veterinarian grade version of the drug, instead of the one for humans that has been used for decades safely.

If someone said there's no difference between the animal and human version of a drug, he'd be bashed and laughed to scorn.

You still do not understand. Veterinary drugs are made by major pharmaceutical companies in the same labs that the human drugs are made. There is absolutely no reason why they would put together dirty or mislabeled drugs for animals. Owners of animals would not accept that their animals were getting abcesses or got sick from crappy drugs. Steroid users used to, and still do, make injectable tren from veterinary Finaplix implants. Absolutely no indication that it was substandard, quite opposite. And this is brewing it in a kitchen without bacteria controlled rooms and without probably removing all the glue and/or estrogen from the pellets.

Again, you are basing what you say on muscle magazine articles about products made by clandestine actors, at a specific time in history, in a corrupt country for the black market. Of course that invites the chance of crappy products for natural reasons. But if you get veterinary Pfizer Equipoise or Winstrol-V or test suspension they are going to be as good as any human equivalent. Back about 20-25 years ago I used Aussie vet steroids and they were fantastic, clean and properly dosed.

Now as far as the veterinary Ivermectin paste. Without researching it I would bet it has never been proven to be either dirty or misdosed or caused any problems in humans compared to the human equivalent. If you have evidence otherwise let me know. Have people been getting sick from it?

I never used Mexican vet products specifically being in Europe but I did use Aussie Jurox steroids. It was clean and potent, only negative was that it clogged needles not being micronized.


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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2021, 10:28:02 PM »
What the fuck are you even saying? I have no idea.

You are so fucking stupid you don't even know the legality of steroids in Thailand, a place you claim to visit.  :D


So why is this pissing you off , who give a fuck about the legality of AS in Sweden,Mongolia,Chad, or........... !.

















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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2021, 10:34:09 PM »

Fauci, leading expert on hypocrisy, is now telling us to ...

LOL! Kind of lame, but funny never-the-less. If COVID includes flu like symptoms, butt plugs might come in handy.  ;D


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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2021, 10:42:05 PM »

So why is this pissing you off , who give a fuck about the legality of AS in Sweden,Mongolia,Chad, or........... !.

Because you are telling me I don't know shit  :D

I checked the legality of steroids in Thailand. They are NOT legal to sell without a prescription. Just because you can order it from "pharmacy beside 7 / 11 !!! via courier" doesn't make it legal. You act like you are the authority but it's you who don't know shit and grandma does. Just ask Tony Huge and you will get the same response. They sell these OTC because the pharmacists pay off the cops and/or remove the drugs when they hear the police are doing inspections.
You can also buy weed "OTC" in Thailand. Does it make it legal? Fuck no.

I am not pissed off but I am not going to let some retard call me an idiot  :D

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2021, 11:02:52 PM »

Now as far as the veterinary Ivermectin paste. Without researching it I would bet it has never been proven to be either dirty or misdosed or caused any problems in humans compared to the human equivalent. If you have evidence otherwise let me know. Have people been getting sick from it?



Now I did a quick google and here is a doctor warning about vet Ivermectin:

“Let’s say it was manufactured for a large horse, but a human takes it, it can create low blood pressure, rapid heart rates, seizures, there are even episodes where you can see layers of your skinfall off,” said Speights. “It can damage the liver, and there’s vision loss that can be associated.”



Now what is he saying? Read between the lines. He says stupid consumers may inadvertently overdose it because they can't read labels to convert for proper human dose. He doesn't say anything about it being dirty or mislabeled. This is them just trying to protect the retards who self-prescribe and don't know what they're doing.

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #56 on: September 06, 2021, 11:07:24 PM »
Because you are telling me I don't know shit  :D

I checked the legality of steroids in Thailand. They are NOT legal to sell without a prescription. Just because you can order it from "pharmacy beside 7 / 11 !!! via courier" doesn't make it legal. You act like you are the authority but it's you who don't know shit and grandma does. Just ask Tony Huge and you will get the same response. They sell these OTC because the pharmacists pay off the cops and/or remove the drugs when they hear the police are doing inspections.
You can also buy weed "OTC" in Thailand. Does it make it legal? Fuck no.

I am not pissed off but I am not going to let some retard call me an idiot  :D


I buy ILLEGAL AS/HGH just to PISS U OFF !. Happy NOW !.

Get a LIFE naive old fart !.

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #57 on: September 06, 2021, 11:12:05 PM »
When was the last time a prominent Dem lost anything because of wrongdoing? I honestly didn’t think you were this naive. Does it bother you that Fouci’s wife is the Chief of Bioethics at the NIH?

I don't believe I am naďve, but you are obviously misguided and misinformed. 

Dr. Fauci is unaffiliated and not a Democrat, which might have some bearing on why he's held his position for such a long time under both Democratic and Republican Presidents. To be exact it is four Republican Presidents and three, including Biden, Democratic Presidents.

As to 'who gets caught with their pants down' politically speaking, they are unfortunately but not unexpectedly folks from all political affiliations and much to the dismay of those who are politically polarized who would rather it be one party or another. There are good people and bad people on both sides of the fence.

Actually, it doesn't bother me at all what his wife's work is. Because if her job presented a conflict of interest, either she or her husband would have to give up their position. I am a retired public employee and a union activist. I have just a tiny bit of knowledge about these things based on personal experience representing other public employees and because of my 30 year involvement in political activism.

The COVID-19 vaccines received emergency use approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, not the NIH. Grady and her staff teach medical ethics and research ethical issues related to medicine and clinical research. Dr. Grady does not approve the conduct of any research protocol and she has no input into the FDA process for issuing emergency use authorizations.

Throw out all the red herrings you want Coach, the facts will eventually prove them false. 

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2021, 11:14:05 PM »
RE-READ your OWN posts , SENILE old fuck !.

Have a nice day.

If you have proof of that I once said this, post it.

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #60 on: September 07, 2021, 02:22:12 AM »
Have a nice day.

If you have proof of that I once said this, post it.

Saggy, yours memory is Auf Wiedersehen  ::) ::) ::)

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #61 on: September 07, 2021, 02:26:54 AM »
I don't believe I am naďve, but you are obviously misguided and misinformed. 


And you aren't? The shite you are saying Joe does, you do w/ CNN and libturd sites.
MSM lie's, we're all misguided, no one knows WTF is going on. (Except constant lie's by most, and truth by very few).

People write news articles with their feelings, not actual science...

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #63 on: September 07, 2021, 02:44:35 AM »
Libturds, LOL.

The braindead kvnts of the western-world.


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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #64 on: September 07, 2021, 11:59:34 AM »
I don't believe I am naďve, but you are obviously misguided and misinformed. 

Dr. Fauci is unaffiliated and not a Democrat, which might have some bearing on why he's held his position for such a long time under both Democratic and Republican Presidents. To be exact it is four Republican Presidents and three, including Biden, Democratic Presidents.

As to 'who gets caught with their pants down' politically speaking, they are unfortunately but not unexpectedly folks from all political affiliations and much to the dismay of those who are politically polarized who would rather it be one party or another. There are good people and bad people on both sides of the fence.

Actually, it doesn't bother me at all what his wife's work is. Because if her job presented a conflict of interest, either she or her husband would have to give up their position. I am a retired public employee and a union activist. I have just a tiny bit of knowledge about these things based on personal experience representing other public employees and because of my 30 year involvement in political activism.

The COVID-19 vaccines received emergency use approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, not the NIH. Grady and her staff teach medical ethics and research ethical issues related to medicine and clinical research. Dr. Grady does not approve the conduct of any research protocol and she has no input into the FDA process for issuing emergency use authorizations.

Throw out all the red herrings you want Coach, the facts will eventually prove them false.

You’re incredibly naive. Did I also mention that Fouci donated to Clinton's campaign?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rand-paul-wuhan-documents-fauci-lied

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/09/07/report-top-scientist-claims-anthony-fauci-untruthful-about-chinese-lab-research/


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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #65 on: September 07, 2021, 12:12:24 PM »
And you aren't? The shite you are saying Joe does, you do w/ CNN and libturd sites.
MSM lie's, we're all misguided, no one knows WTF is going on. (Except constant lie's by most, and truth by very few).

People write news articles with their feelings, not actual science...

I agree that the media is suspect regardless of political bias and that of its writers/reporters. Some of those sites you refer to as 'libturd' are not media per se but medical and scientific sites. Some people trust no one and nothing. It's a hell of a way to live one's life. If everyone did this, we'd still be in the dark ages. I've been around a lot of years and have witnessed many advances in science and medicine....plus a few horrendous mistakes.

Maybe it is just lately that Coach started this, but posting snippets of an issue that come nowhere close to covering all that is known or believed to be known seems intentional. Lying by omission is still lying. 

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #66 on: September 07, 2021, 12:15:01 PM »
Saggy, yours memory is Auf Wiedersehen  ::) ::) ::)

Okay sure, then prove that it is.

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #67 on: September 07, 2021, 12:37:26 PM »
You’re incredibly naive

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rand-paul-wuhan-documents-fauci-lied

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/09/07/report-top-scientist-claims-anthony-fauci-untruthful-about-chinese-lab-research/



Paul Ryan says.....well then, it must be so.  ::)

Richard Ebright is the only 'scientist' mentioned in the Breitbart article....why then does the headline read like it is multiple scientists?  ::)

It is interesting that you posted a video of Dr. Fauci completely owning Rand Paul. 'Rand Paul Yells More, Listens Less In Yet Another Hearing With Anthony Fauci' IMO, Rand Paul is an asshole and this video proves it.

Senator Rand Paul failed to disclose for a year wife's purchase of COVID drug company stock. Under a 2012 law called the Stock Act, which was enacted to stop lawmakers from trading on insider information, any such sale should have been reported within 45 days.

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #68 on: September 07, 2021, 02:24:00 PM »
You still do not understand. Veterinary drugs are made by major pharmaceutical companies in the same labs that the human drugs are made. There is absolutely no reason why they would put together dirty or mislabeled drugs for animals. Owners of animals would not accept that their animals were getting abcesses or got sick from crappy drugs. Steroid users used to, and still do, make injectable tren from veterinary Finaplix implants. Absolutely no indication that it was substandard, quite opposite. And this is brewing it in a kitchen without bacteria controlled rooms and without probably removing all the glue and/or estrogen from the pellets.

Again, you are basing what you say on muscle magazine articles about products made by clandestine actors, at a specific time in history, in a corrupt country for the black market. Of course that invites the chance of crappy products for natural reasons. But if you get veterinary Pfizer Equipoise or Winstrol-V or test suspension they are going to be as good as any human equivalent. Back about 20-25 years ago I used Aussie vet steroids and they were fantastic, clean and properly dosed.

Now as far as the veterinary Ivermectin paste. Without researching it I would bet it has never been proven to be either dirty or misdosed or caused any problems in humans compared to the human equivalent. If you have evidence otherwise let me know. Have people been getting sick from it?

I never used Mexican vet products specifically being in Europe but I did use Aussie Jurox steroids. It was clean and potent, only negative was that it clogged needles not being micronized.

"Clean" for horses is one thing; "clean" for humans is quite another.

I haven't heard of anyone getting sick from Ivermectin, aside from that now-proven BOGUS article from Rolling Stone. Again, the whole narrative is that a bunch of stupid rednecks are taking "horse de-wormers", instead of being "smart" and getting the vaccine.

Most people about whom I've read taking Ivermectin are being prescribed it from their doctors. And they are using the version made for humans, not animals. There's no "black market" thing for IVM, like what I described earlier when mentioning bodybuilders using veterinary grades of steroids.

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #69 on: September 07, 2021, 02:35:30 PM »
Libturds, LOL.

The braindead kvnts of the western-world.


Demturd-><-Coma Patients

What does this have to do with political affiliation?

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #70 on: September 07, 2021, 02:36:16 PM »
fake news  8)

you are so naive  ::)

How is it fake exactly?

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #72 on: September 07, 2021, 03:08:09 PM »
"Clean" for horses is one thing; "clean" for humans is quite another.



Lol you don't know wtf you're talking about, you have nothing to back up this assertion. You think Pfizer is brewing Equipoise with rusty lab equipment in a latrine or something? Why in the fuck would they when they have state of the art labs? A vet injectable says sterile, and by sterile they don't mean half-sterile. Either it is or isn't.

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #73 on: September 07, 2021, 03:09:50 PM »
"Clean" for horses is one thing; "clean" for humans is quite another.

Do you think they would inject multi million dollar racehorses with shit?

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Re: CDC endorses use for Ivermectin....for Afghan refugees
« Reply #74 on: September 07, 2021, 03:34:10 PM »
Now I did a quick google and here is a doctor warning about vet Ivermectin:

“Let’s say it was manufactured for a large horse, but a human takes it, it can create low blood pressure, rapid heart rates, seizures, there are even episodes where you can see layers of your skinfall off,” said Speights. “It can damage the liver, and there’s vision loss that can be associated.”



Now what is he saying? Read between the lines. He says stupid consumers may inadvertently overdose it because they can't read labels to convert for proper human dose. He doesn't say anything about it being dirty or mislabeled. This is them just trying to protect the retards who self-prescribe and don't know what they're doing.

Bingo
Stupid humans are going to veterinary supply stores and buying medicine in doses designed for horses and cows and I doubt the packaging has any kind of instructions on how to titrate the dose for humans (why would they bother with that?)