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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: FitnessFrenzy on September 08, 2021, 12:41:09 PM
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Big dude.
Just needs calves.
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Big dude.
Just needs calves.
Dexter didn't need them to win it in 08....
But the Huge thighs made the imbalance more drastic on Ramy ... No doubt ...
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BE YE KE
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Traps ? MIA or just a bad pic?
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Dexter didn't need them to win it in 08....
But the Huge thighs made the imbalance more drastic on Ramy ... No doubt ...
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BE YE KE
Ramy has a weird imbalance for sure.
But he's a monster.
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That's an ugly pic from an aesthetic point of view. Too wide shoulders and no traps. Yes there is such a thing as too wide shoulders.
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Excellent scalp striations.
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IMO, Mr. O should be more than a monster-mash of parts.
More like a Rhoden type. Or 1991 Haney 8)
Ramy's huge, but a bit of a mess...
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who is his "diet doc" ?
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who is his "diet doc" ?
Chadwick Nicklaus
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That's an ugly pic from an aesthetic point of view. Too wide shoulders and no traps. Yes there is such a thing as too wide shoulders.
I'm kinda like that my traps are a weak point
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IMO, Mr. O should be more than a monster-mash of parts.
More like a Rhoden type. Or 1991 Haney 8)
Ramy's huge, but a bit of a mess...
And you think you are better than him?
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I'm kinda like that my traps are a weak point
No one has great traps without exogenous androgens. If there is a drug dependent bodypart it's traps. So you can't compare to any juiced bb.
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No one has great traps without exogenous androgens. If there is a drug dependent bodypart it's traps. So you can't compare to any juiced bb.
I feel you on that, I work hard to get dat dere Lou Ferrigno/hulk traps, but I'm natty for life
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If this photo is for real, his back is at least three times wider than mine and he's a couple of times narrower at the hip. :o
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Dexter less than a year of retirement, looks real good still, but the power of anabolics and genetics
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTcp44eLQU7/?utm_medium=copy_link
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Dexter less than a year of retirement, looks real good still, but the power of anabolics and genetics
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTcp44eLQU7/?utm_medium=copy_link
He stopped eating the grass fed beef (rinsed of course) and wala wala onions.
The drugs are just the last 5%.
Probably still using 25mg of Test every 47 days.
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He stopped eating the grass fed beef (rinsed of course) and wala wala onions.
The drugs are just the last 5%.
Probably still using 25mg of Test every 47 days.
Def puts things in perspective ;D
Kai is still heavy on the gas, if he let off he would be were dexter is at in a few months
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Health is more important than being 5'6'' 300 lbs of muscle
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Health is more important than being 5'6'' 300 lbs of muscle
Plus, Jackson is eating far less than he did in his competitive days.
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Plus, Jackson is eating far less than he did in his competitive days.
Cutler said excessive eating is unhealthy, I agree!
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Def puts things in perspective ;D
Kai is still heavy on the gas, if he let off he would be were dexter is at in a few months
Ahh yes!
Kai would look pretty weird after a few months off the gas.
I don't think it will end well for him. Seems to have the never give up attitude.
He still has his foot flat on the gas, full steam ahead.
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He stopped eating the grass fed beef (rinsed of course) and wala wala onions.
I got a legit LOL out of this one !! :D
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Ahh yes!
Kai would look pretty weird after a few months off the gas.
I don't think it will end well for him. Seems to have the never give up attitude.
He still has his foot flat on the gas, full steam ahead.
His nose would overpower the rest of his body if he dropped the dose
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Plus, Jackson is eating far less than he did in his competitive days.
The hard round look is gone, from the shoulders to the traps which are the first to respond well from anabolics, but expected. His face is younger, best he’s looked in decades
Anyone that done anabolics would know this look
Not dismissing food
But drugs with good genetics is mind blowing, the recovery, the gains
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The hard round look is gone, from the shoulders to the traps which are the first to respond well from anabolics, but expected. His face is younger, best he’s looked in decades
Anyone that done anabolics would know this look
Not dismissing food
But drugs with good genetics is mind blowing, the recovery, the gains
Look at how smooth and soft he is.
That's not from lack of food. ;D
He does look healthy.
Hard to tell since a lot of blacks don't seem to look their age anyway.
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Look at how smooth and soft he is.
That's not from lack of food. ;D
He does look healthy.
Hard to tell since a lot of blacks don't seem to look their age anyway.
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That hard look is only achieved from androgens, all the food in the world without drugs will not achieve that
Dexter always looked old in the face compared to someone like Shawn Ray, now that’s he’s “off” he looks much younger ;D
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And you think you are better than him?
Where did I say that? What I said (in certain terms) is I think a MR. O should be Haney-like.
Not a bundle of bloated body-parts.
I always say (IMO only) and that's all it is. If they want to judge this as Mr. O, well thats where we are these days. Bloated messes.
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Dexter always looked old in the face compared to someone like Shawn Ray, now that’s he’s “off” he looks much younger ;D
Good point. He does seemed to have a younger look to him.
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Cutler said excessive eating is unhealthy, I agree!
Thank Christ Jay said this. Maybe now Bhank will tone down the consumption, and give his cobbler-gobbler a rest...
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The hard round look is gone, from the shoulders to the traps which are the first to respond well from anabolics, but expected. His face is younger, best he’s looked in decades
Anyone that done anabolics would know this look
Not dismissing food
But drugs with good genetics is mind blowing, the recovery, the gains
Blob Chickadillo says its just a finishing touch, doesnt do too much.
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Where did I say that? What I said (in certain terms) is I think a MR. O should be Haney-like.
Not a bundle of bloated body-parts.
I always say (IMO only) and that's all it is. If they want to judge this as Mr. O, well thats where we are these days. Bloated messes.
In all fairness the Mr Olympia can't be a black dude forever, they need to put a white dude in there too
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Look at how smooth and soft he is.
That's not from lack of food. ;D
He does look healthy.
Hard to tell since a lot of blacks don't seem to look their age anyway.
The hard round look is gone, from the shoulders to the traps which are the first to respond well from anabolics, but expected. His face is younger, best he’s looked in decades
Anyone that done anabolics would know this look
Not dismissing food
But drugs with good genetics is mind blowing, the recovery, the gains
The man is RETIRED. He's doing far less of EVERYTHING: eating, training, and using anabolics.
In an interview on VladTV about why the "Camel Crew" guys were drastically improving, Jackson states that it simply had to do with their going to an environment where all they do is eat, sleep, and train; and he does the same thing in Los Angeles.
He also stated why he does that vs. stating home.
That's why I come to L.A. They go to Kuwait to get away from the everyday activities. If I was home in Jacksonville, guess what I'm doing every day: Going to my partner's house, going to my uncle's house, going to my sister's, my mom's; I'm skipping meals!
And this was while he was still competing. Now, that he's called it day, he's doing that in spades.
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In all fairness the Mr Olympia can't be a black dude forever, they need to put a white dude in there too
Why not? We had a black dude as Mr. Olympia for nearly a decade, during the 2010s.
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His nose would overpower the rest of his body if he dropped the dose
It already did. Look at Greene during his WNBF/NGA days (left pic).
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Greene at the 1999 Mr. Universe, after winning the TU that year (before the TU became a pro qualifier).
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Why not? We had a black dude as Mr. Olympia for nearly a decade, during the 2010s.
And that's the problem with the sport, out of the top ten at the Mr Olympia like 8 are black, people start to get turned off by that
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The man is RETIRED. He's doing far less of EVERYTHING: eating, training, and using anabolics.
But Pro BBing is all drugs.
You have no idea what he does on a daily basis.
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And that's the problem with the sport, out of the top ten at the Mr Olympia like 8 are black, people start to get turned off by that
Then find some Caucasians that can beat them. Making some average pro Mr. O, simply because he's white, would basically suck.
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But Pro BBing is all drugs.
You have no idea what he does on a daily basis.
I'll take an educated guess, based on what he actually said and what normally happens when bodybuilders RETIRE.
You're acting as if Jackson or any other pro would turn instant twig by simply laying off the drugs, regardless if he were still training hard and eating a fairly high-calorie diet.
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Then find some Caucasians that can beat them. Making some average pro Mr. O, simply because he's white, would basically suck.
Yeah in the old days, in the days of Arnold we would see more white bodybuilders, things have changed
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Yeah in the old days, in the days of Arnold we would see more white bodybuilders, things have changed
Dorian was a white Mr. Olympia. Half the bodybuilding industry accused him of destroying the sport. Bodybuilders were supposedly DYING, trying to inject everything under the sun to be like him.
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Traps ? MIA or just a bad pic?
Or bad posing.
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And you think you are better than him?
Why would he need to be?
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Up and cumming modern 2000’s and up white bbers, past, present, but never forgotten
Dallas was supposed to be the next O, he was big, young and over 6 ft tall, too bad that fucker died and is now 6 ft under instead
Evan Centopanties was another guy they were pushing, then he “retired” and wanted to play “chef” for whatever reason
Justin Compton, another up and cummer, literally blew out his asshole, health issues
Dennis Wolfe, this Russian Jew German started to win shows when his body wasn’t as good as he was earlier in his career, by that time he wasn’t going to win the O, physique was decomposing right in front of your eyes the more shows he did
Branch, nothing needs to be said about this size 7 shoe garden gnome
Steve Kuclo, early in his career instead of coming on stage in condition, he always had chip munk cheeks and seemed to be engaged to a new girl every other wk
Chris Cook, instead of getting serious about prancing around stage in a thong this homo wanted to be a MMA fighter instead
Leaves hunter labrada, I think he will get it done, money not being an issue and having the labrada name
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There they are.. BOOM ^
Bad other pic from the rear...
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The bodybuilders of today look like soft bloat. No density or hardness. I don't know what drugs they are taking but they all have the same soft bloat look to them.
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The bodybuilders of today look like soft bloat. No density or hardness. I don't know what drugs they are taking but they all have the same soft bloat look to them.
yeah, the guys back then looked way harder... ::)
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Thank Christ Jay said this. Maybe now Bhank will tone down the consumption, and give his cobbler-gobbler a rest...
If anything I do not eat enough you can’t grow without food. Jay stuffed his face nonstop for decades. I am also old I absolutely will not add an ounce of muscle without eating a lot of food consistently everyday
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If anything I do not eat enough you can’t grow without food. Jay stuffed his face nonstop for decades. I am also old I absolutely will not add an ounce of muscle without eating a lot of food consistently everyday
Many believe that, and im sure its correct. (For many).
Some can also grow on just a little over maintenance. (1K over, etc).
Over-stuffing, makes many just shit more, blow out stomach, etc. Body can only process/absorb so much.
Seems to be working for you though, do whatever works...
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Thank Christ Jay said this. Maybe now Bhank will tone down the consumption, and give his cobbler-gobbler a rest...
Hahaha cobbler gobbler
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Many believe that, and im sure its correct. (For many).
Some can also grow on just a little over maintenance. (1K over, etc).
Over-stuffing, makes many just shit more, blow out stomach, etc. Body can only process/absorb so much.
Seems to be working for you though, do whatever works...
I am not overstuffing it is real simple eat as much as you can. If you are overstuffed that means you ate more than you could handle yes?? People get caught up on the idea of calories per day that is not how it works. Calories per Week Calories per month is what counts. On days my stomach feels good and wants to eat I might give it 10k calories after a couple heavy days it doesn't and I might only get 3k. I may burn 6k everyday regardless. Your intestines do not fill up and empty everyday then start over it is a cumulative process if you eat a lot today you will be less hungry tomorrow. If you eat a lot for 3 days in a row you will not be empty and doing a vacuum pose the 3rd morning. Your bodies digestive system is not a 24 hour process the food may be out of your stomach but not your guts and bloodstream and cells your body is full of nutrients the cells have carbs and amino acids and water they don't fill up and empty every 24 hours. Stop thinking calories per day and start thinking per week and month. If you eat 6 days a week and fast one day you are not really getting as much as you think. Look at my godamn bodyfat I am not eating too much.
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And that's the problem with the sport, out of the top ten at the Mr Olympia like 8 are black, people start to get turned off by that
Then get your white ass up there and beat them
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But Pro BBing is all drugs.
You have no idea what he does on a daily basis.
And a lifetime of training eating not partying and lifting but other than that all drugs lol
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Up and cumming modern 2000’s and up white bbers, past, present, but never forgotten
Dallas was supposed to be the next O, he was big, young and over 6 ft tall, too bad that fucker died and is now 6 ft under instead
Evan Centopanties was another guy they were pushing, then he “retired” and wanted to play “chef” for whatever reason
Justin Compton, another up and cummer, literally blew out his asshole, health issues
Dennis Wolfe, this Russian Jew German started to win shows when his body wasn’t as good as he was earlier in his career, by that time he wasn’t going to win the O, physique was decomposing right in front of your eyes the more shows he did
Branch, nothing needs to be said about this size 7 shoe garden gnome
Steve Kuclo, early in his career instead of coming on stage in condition, he always had chip munk cheeks and seemed to be engaged to a new girl every other wk
Chris Cook, instead of getting serious about prancing around stage in a thong this homo wanted to be a MMA fighter instead
Leaves hunter labrada, I think he will get it done, money not being an issue and having the labrada name
The Mutant is going to beat Lebrada at the Arnold stoked to see that comparison
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I am not overstuffing it is real simple eat as much as you can. If you are overstuffed that means you ate more than you could handle yes?? People get caught up on the idea of calories per day that is not how it works. Calories per Week Calories per month is what counts. On days my stomach feels good and wants to eat I might give it 10k calories after a couple heavy days it doesn't and I might only get 3k. I may burn 6k everyday regardless. Your intestines do not fill up and empty everyday then start over it is a cumulative process if you eat a lot today you will be less hungry tomorrow. If you eat a lot for 3 days in a row you will not be empty and doing a vacuum pose the 3rd morning. Your bodies digestive system is not a 24 hour process the food may be out of your stomach but not your guts and bloodstream and cells your body is full of nutrients the cells have carbs and amino acids and water they don't fill up and empty every 24 hours. Stop thinking calories per day and start thinking per week and month. If you eat 6 days a week and fast one day you are not really getting as much as you think. Look at my godamn bodyfat I am not eating too much.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you know what works for you.
My point is the YouTube bro's who say "You must eat 6K cals a day to grow". Then 140 lb twinks try it, grow fat stomachs and no muscle as they are natty, and shit 24x7.
Pro's know what works for them.
Enhanced gym-rats know what works for them.
Smart natties (who arent YouTube sheep) know what works for them.
The rest are clueless folks who do what YouTube tells them to do.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure you know what works for you.
My point is the YouTube bro's who say "You must eat 6K cals a day to grow". Then 140 lb twinks try it, grow fat stomachs and no muscle as they are natty, and shit 24x7.
Pro's know what works for them.
Enhanced gym-rats know what works for them.
Smart natties (who arent YouTube sheep) know what works for them.
The rest are clueless folks who do what YouTube tells them to do.
GOOD POINTS MAN...
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure you know what works for you.
My point is the YouTube bro's who say "You must eat 6K cals a day to grow". Then 140 lb twinks try it, grow fat stomachs and no muscle as they are natty, and shit 24x7.
Pro's know what works for them.
Enhanced gym-rats know what works for them.
Smart natties (who arent YouTube sheep) know what works for them.
The rest are clueless folks who do what YouTube tells them to do.
Training makes a huge difference. Some people really do train and burn a lot of calories. It kind of depends on where you are at and what you are doing. 6k calories is really not that much for me but yeah your weight age and activity level count
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Who still cares about the Olympia and the open division?
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Ramy must be like Secretariat, except instead of his heart being twice the size it's his liver.
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I am not overstuffing it is real simple eat as much as you can. If you are overstuffed that means you ate more than you could handle yes?? People get caught up on the idea of calories per day that is not how it works. Calories per Week Calories per month is what counts. On days my stomach feels good and wants to eat I might give it 10k calories after a couple heavy days it doesn't and I might only get 3k. I may burn 6k everyday regardless. Your intestines do not fill up and empty everyday then start over it is a cumulative process if you eat a lot today you will be less hungry tomorrow. If you eat a lot for 3 days in a row you will not be empty and doing a vacuum pose the 3rd morning. Your bodies digestive system is not a 24 hour process the food may be out of your stomach but not your guts and bloodstream and cells your body is full of nutrients the cells have carbs and amino acids and water they don't fill up and empty every 24 hours. Stop thinking calories per day and start thinking per week and month. If you eat 6 days a week and fast one day you are not really getting as much as you think. Look at my godamn bodyfat I am not eating too much.
Have you tried any of the high molecular weight carbs? Like Highly Branched Cyclic Dextrin or Vitargo? You said you drink Gatorade during workouts but glucose can be hard on the stomach even if you are healthy. The whole point of these carbs is to be able to take in a lot of carbs without pulling a lot of water into the intestines. HBCD or Vitargo and add in the most highly hydrolyzed protein you can find at
low dosages. Maybe some essential aminos if you can handle them. A little glutamine. There's even a salmon protein hydrolysate that's supposed to help iron deficiency anemia called "GoPro." Hydrolyzed collagen might be another worthwhile supplement, some evidence it might help arthritis too.
Another supp I haven't tried yet is Zink Carnosine. Supposed to help heal parts of the gastrointestinal tract. Might be worth a try.
Of course finding a doc to prescribe EPO would be highly interesting. EPO doesn't just help anemia, it's a healing peptide.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4611757/
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Black coffee is the best pre workout supplement.
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Then get your white ass up there and beat them
I'm not gonna compete with juiced up bodybuilders, I'm natty
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Up and cumming modern 2000’s and up white bbers, past, present, but never forgotten
Dallas was supposed to be the next O, he was big, young and over 6 ft tall, too bad that fucker died and is now 6 ft under instead
Evan Centopanties was another guy they were pushing, then he “retired” and wanted to play “chef” for whatever reason
Justin Compton, another up and cummer, literally blew out his asshole, health issues
Dennis Wolfe, this Russian Jew German started to win shows when his body wasn’t as good as he was earlier in his career, by that time he wasn’t going to win the O, physique was decomposing right in front of your eyes the more shows he did
Branch, nothing needs to be said about this size 7 shoe garden gnome
Steve Kuclo, early in his career instead of coming on stage in condition, he always had chip munk cheeks and seemed to be engaged to a new girl every other wk
Chris Cook, instead of getting serious about prancing around stage in a thong this homo wanted to be a MMA fighter instead
Leaves hunter labrada, I think he will get it done, money not being an issue and having the labrada name
Hunter's physique is not good though because pec tear, the great white hope is Nick Walker but we have Ramy now which is good for a change
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Black coffee is the best pre workout supplement.
Brutal if true
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure you know what works for you.
My point is the YouTube bro's who say "You must eat 6K cals a day to grow". Then 140 lb twinks try it, grow fat stomachs and no muscle as they are natty, and shit 24x7.
Pro's know what works for them.
Enhanced gym-rats know what works for them.
Smart natties (who arent YouTube sheep) know what works for them.
The rest are clueless folks who do what YouTube tells them to do.
You don't start out eating that much, just as you don't try to bench 405 right off the bat.
It a gradual, step by step, thing. But, like too many other things in life, people want the quick fix.
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Hunter's physique is not good though because pec tear, the great white hope is Nick Walker but we have Ramy now which is good for a change
Isn't Ramy Egyptian, meaning he is (or could possibly be) partially black?
BTW, what sweet Beulah-Land status is bodybuilding supposed to reach if Nick Walker (or any other white guy) becomes Mr. Olympia?
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Brutal if true
And much cheaper.
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And a lifetime of training eating not partying and lifting but other than that all drugs lol
I agree for sure.
It takes a lot of years of lifting and eating to become that large.
Takes a shit ton of drugs too.
I'd like to see what Rami looked like off all PED's for 6 months. Everything else the same.
I think people would be shocked how different he would look.
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People get caught up on the idea of calories per day that is not how it works. Calories per Week Calories per month is what counts.
Stop thinking calories per day and start thinking per week and month. If you eat 6 days a week and fast one day you are not really getting as much as you think.
Again i agree with you hanky.
People think our bodies operate on a 24 hour schedule because of how humans tell time.
We process food over a period of time. Depending on how often we eat and how active we are.
There was an article i read years ago that said our body has a window of like 36-48 hours for nutrition.
People get caught up in the daily numbers, but i believe it should be measured weekly.
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eh... back delt spread? where's his lats? harder to shoot oil there ???
this is more like it
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Dexter less than a year of retirement, looks real good still, but the power of anabolics and genetics
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTcp44eLQU7/?utm_medium=copy_link
Wow.... drugs are just the finishing touch.
To your point Dex looks good but it's a completely different look. Even his skin looks thicker than what his regular off season look was.
Crazy.
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Brutal if true
Absolutely true
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If anything I do not eat enough you can’t grow without food. Jay stuffed his face nonstop for decades. I am also old I absolutely will not add an ounce of muscle without eating a lot of food consistently everyday
bodybuilding is a young mans game. you're in your 50's trying to get hyooge ::)
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I agree for sure.
It takes a lot of years of lifting and eating to become that large.
Takes a shit ton of drugs too.
I'd like to see what Rami looked like off all PED's for 6 months. Everything else the same.
I think people would be shocked how different he would look.
Not really! He'd be smaller but not small.
Probably along the lines of the Ultimate Warrior in 1992.
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bodybuilding is a young mans game. you're in your 50's trying to get hyooge ::)
Define young. Jackson won the Olympia in his late 30s and retired at 51, still placing in the top 10. Rhoden, I believe, hold the record for the oldest man to win his first Olympia at 43 (a few months older than Chris Dickerson was in 1982).
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Define young. Jackson won the Olympia in his late 30s and retired at 51, still placing in the top 10. Rhoden, I believe, hold the record for the oldest man to win his first Olympia at 43 (a few months older than Chris Dickerson was in 1982).
What is your point? That older bodybuilders can be competitive? Did MAXX say they couldn’t be?
He just referenced people being in their 50s.
You point out 2 40+ Mr. O winners and a late 30s winner, all abnormalities. The Mr. Olympia has traditionally been a repeat champion, so we can use average age of the winner or the average age of the first win and that age will be what, early 30s?
All sports are a young mans game, Lebron James isn’t even 40 and he’s one of the NBA’s elder statesmen. Tom Brady is 44, the oldest QB to ever win a Super Bowl, soon to be the oldest starting qb, but based on the 100 year history of the league he is an outlier for his age. How many quarterbacks who are even 40 are on a NFL roster?
Older athletes are competitive, but younger people make up the majority of the competition.
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Define young. Jackson won the Olympia in his late 30s and retired at 51, still placing in the top 10. Rhoden, I believe, hold the record for the oldest man to win his first Olympia at 43 (a few months older than Chris Dickerson was in 1982).
You named anomalies in bbing, those aren’t the norm
Now compare with all the other O winners and pro competitors
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What is your point? That older bodybuilders can be competitive? Did MAXX say they couldn’t be?
He just referenced people being in their 50s.
You point out 2 40+ Mr. O winners and a late 30s winner, all abnormalities. The Mr. Olympia has traditionally been a repeat champion, so we can use average age of the winner or the average age of the first win and that age will be what, early 30s?
All sports are a young mans game, Lebron James isn’t even 40 and he’s one of the NBA’s elder statesmen. Tom Brady is 44, the oldest QB to ever win a Super Bowl, soon to be the oldest starting qb, but based on the 100 year history of the league he is an outlier for his age. How many quarterbacks who are even 40 are on a NFL roster?
Older athletes are competitive, but younger people make up the majority of the competition.
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People are so stupid with their comparisons ;D
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Not really! He'd be smaller but not small.
Probably along the lines of the Ultimate Warrior in 1992.
Lol, you’ve never done gear, never been around or been friends who competed at the amateur level or pro level, talked bbing with the so called “gurus”
Everything you’ve gathered about bbing has been magazines, videos, interviews from bbers
You would think after all these years you wouldn’t be so naive
Same guy that believes Mike Ashley and Mike o Hearn is natural ;D
Oh brother
On a side note, I do agree with you about if he keeps training dexter will still attain a good physique, but he will never have the hardness, roundness, 3D look he’s had, which is only achieved with drugs. All the food in the world he wouldn’t achieve that. But that’s not his goal, he’s retired and isn’t doing things extreme anymore
I’m just not downplaying with the right genetics, how crazy gear can turn a physique into
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bodybuilding is a young mans game. you're in your 50's trying to get hyooge ::)
I am in my 40s didn’t you hear it is the new 20s and I am just rehabbing injuries really I am in my 220s at 511 not exactly pshing it right above the classic size but if training is wrong I don’t want to be right I like training. I think I am doing it the right way you may disagree but you probably it look like dogshit as well
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^Ghey pic.
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Lol, you’ve never done gear, never been around or been friends who competed at the amateur level or pro level, talked bbing with the so called “gurus”
Everything you’ve gathered about bbing has been magazines, videos, interviews from bbers
You would think after all these years you wouldn’t be so naive
Same guy that believes Mike Ashley and Mike o Hearn is natural ;D
Oh brother
Yup, no point arguing with him.
Ignorance is bliss.
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I am in my 40s didn’t you hear it is the new 20s and I am just rehabbing injuries really I am in my 220s at 511 not exactly pshing it right above the classic size but if training is wrong I don’t want to be right I like training. I think I am doing it the right way you may disagree but you probably it look like dogshit as well
From 5’10 to 5’10 and a half to 5’11
The rate you’re going you will hit 6 ft tall by the end of the year
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From 5’10 to 5’10 and a half to 5’11
The rate you’re going you will hit 6 ft tall by the end of the year
I measured first time since 10th grade I am 510 and 7/8ths if you want to be precise I was 510 and a half in 10th grade. The classic is 212 for 511 though and 205 for 510 so I am claiming 511 so I can weigh 212 and will just stretch out an 1/8th an inch. Or I may go open heavy depends how body responds to training just over 220 now
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^Ghey pic.
Really funny does it look like a thong or the offical NPC classic costume and a guy practicing his mandatories
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Lol, you’ve never done gear, never been around or been friends who competed at the amateur level or pro level, talked bbing with the so called “gurus”
Everything you’ve gathered about bbing has been magazines, videos, interviews from bbers
You would think after all these years you wouldn’t be so naive
Same guy that believes Mike Ashley and Mike o Hearn is natural ;D
Oh brother
Lol at Mike being natural. Not even O'Hearns empy ballsack convinced him otherwise.
His bodybuilding education stopped circa year 2000 when the internet took over. You could still learn from the internet, for example about drugs, if you're interested. But this guy's knowledge came from magazines more than 2 decades ago. The magazines were extremely limited in how much information they could convey for natural reasons. He still thinks bodybuilders move to border towns so they can shoot up legally in Mexico lol.
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^Ghey pic.
;D
Yup. Cirque du SoGhey. ;D
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He stopped eating the grass fed beef (rinsed of course) and wala wala onions.
The drugs are just the last 5%.
Probably still using 25mg of Test every 47 days.
Bullshit, he also takes a morning dbol tab and 200mg shot of deca on Sundays.
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I measured first time since 10th grade I am 510 and 7/8ths if you want to be precise I was 510 and a half in 10th grade. The classic is 212 for 511 though and 205 for 510 so I am claiming 511 so I can weigh 212 and will just stretch out an 1/8th an inch. Or I may go open heavy depends how body responds to training just over 220 now
Responds to training?your not going to break new ground on training esp after hrs of training under your belt already,I know your food theories already ,let’s be serious jumping weight classes or keeping muscle under certain conditions whether maintaining or cutting requires drugs or more drugs or somewhere in between.you skip over that one every time.
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Def puts things in perspective ;D
Kai is still heavy on the gas, if he let off he would be were dexter is at in a few months
Kai will always be bigger than Dexter. Kai was never a bantam weight like Dexter.
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Really funny does it look like a thong or the offical NPC classic costume and a guy practicing his mandatories
why are you wearing NPC trunks lol... forgot to do laundry?
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Speaking of trunks and thongs, maybe they should return to what Joe Weider had them pose in his faget mags Adonis and Body Beautiful. You don't want to obscure any shreds. I think those "trunks" left the ass bare too.
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Speaking of trunks and thongs, maybe they should return to what Joe Weider had them pose in his faget mags Adonis and Body Beautiful. You don't want to obscure any shreds. I think those "trunks" left the ass bare too.
I'm fucking crying. ;D
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I'm fucking crying. ;D
They were blatantly homosexual. Just googling now you had physique shots like this one :D
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Define young. Jackson won the Olympia in his late 30s and retired at 51, still placing in the top 10. Rhoden, I believe, hold the record for the oldest man to win his first Olympia at 43 (a few months older than Chris Dickerson was in 1982).
Dexter Jackson turned pro after winning the 1998 North America. He was born in 1969, so he turned Pro at 29 and competed and took 7th in the Arnold the next year. Chris Dickerson won the Mr America in 1970 at 31.
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And much cheaper.
That really depends what kind of coffee you drink..my preworkout is $20 a month…my coffee is $30
Bench
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Lol, you’ve never done gear, never been around or been friends who competed at the amateur level or pro level, talked bbing with the so called “gurus”
Everything you’ve gathered about bbing has been magazines, videos, interviews from bbers
You would think after all these years you wouldn’t be so naive
Wrong!! I have been around amateur bodybuilders, some of whom have taken steroids. One of them was a good friend of mine, when I lived in Jacksonville. And contrary to your silly quip, he didn't turn into a bean pole once he retired and stopped taking steroids, though he clearly was not as big as he was in his competitive prime.
Same guy that believes Mike Ashley and Mike o Hearn is natural ;D
Oh brother
It's their peers who validate their claims. Of course, they're all part of some cabal to try and fool people, except for all the "in the know" folks on GetBig.
On a side note, I do agree with you about if he keeps training dexter will still attain a good physique, but he will never have the hardness, roundness, 3D look he’s had, which is only achieved with drugs. All the food in the world he wouldn’t achieve that. But that’s not his goal, he’s retired and isn’t doing things extreme anymore
I’m just not downplaying with the right genetics, how crazy gear can turn a physique into
I never claimed he would be. He's not eating, training, or using anabolics to the degree he once did.....HE'S RETIRED!!!
What I said was if he quit using steroids but still ate a fairly high calorie diet and hit the weight hard, he'd still be BIG, just not as big.
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Yup, no point arguing with him.
Ignorance is bliss.
Look who's talking about ignorance: Somebody who acting surprised that a RETIRED bodybuilder who's not eating, training, or taking anabolics (and said he wouldn't be doing so, once he called it a career) is SMALLER than he was in his heyday.
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Look who's talking about ignorance: Somebody who acting surprised that a RETIRED bodybuilder who's not eating, training, or taking anabolics (and said he wouldn't be doing so, once he called it a career) is SMALLER than he was in his heyday.
I'm not surprised.
He's still on AAS. Just not as much.
You have no idea what he does.
Cutler is retired too.
I've lived the dream bro.
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It's their peers who validate their claims. Of course, they're all part of some cabal to try and fool people, except for all the "in the know" folks on GetBig.
They haven't validated shit. You have NO idea what is said privately. They gave these quotes for the mags as a JOKE, I guarantee they were laughing at the absurd things they said.
If I showed pics of O'Hearn to top amateurs and pros and asked if he could be natural they would say "wtf don't tell me you are so naive!" And I've done so.
You have not been in the lifestyle yourself so you just don't know how the conversations go. You don't think O'Hearns juicing specifics hasn't leaked in say Gold's Venice? They all know his use has spanned decades consistently.
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Responds to training?your not going to break new ground on training esp after hrs of training under your belt already,I know your food theories already ,let’s be serious jumping weight classes or keeping muscle under certain conditions whether maintaining or cutting requires drugs or more drugs or somewhere in between.you skip over that one every time.
I wasn't training hamstrings like this before I should be making newbie leg gains which could mean real bodyweight gains. I was 226lbs before bed last night. If I am 220lbs a week out I could do the classic at 212lbs but if I am 230lbs a week out I may do the Open at 220-225lbs. I can't cut to light heavy again. Obviously you need to be giving your body proper support. The last week or so as I start to clean up my diet I will make the division call based on my weight. I am not sure if I will be a classic or open heavyweight it could go either way but light heavy was a bad call last time I got sick cutting weight not doing that again. I should probably do the classic but I was 222lbs this am so it could go either way.
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There is something about your look that resembles Mike O'Hearn.
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There is something about your look that resembles Mike O'Hearn.
That is fine Mike O'hearn is in great shape total weirdo but in great shape
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I like that stone-work/patio BHank.
And a great ocean-view.
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Define young. Jackson won the Olympia in his late 30s and retired at 51, still placing in the top 10. Rhoden, I believe, hold the record for the oldest man to win his first Olympia at 43 (a few months older than Chris Dickerson was in 1982).
Sure,alot of bbers that still can grow in their 40's.
Im talking more in a perspective of life or death. Juicing Hard at 50+ is a good way to die from a heart attack. That should mean more to anyone.
At the dosages some(most) pros are talking they even die in their 20s and 30s now (Dallas and Luke)
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There is something about your look that resembles Mike O'Hearn.
Fucks sake his face is nearly as big as his waist...
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Fucks sake his face is nearly as big as his waist...
Ahh shit !! LOL 'D
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Sure,alot of bbers that still can grow in their 40's.
Im talking more in a perspective of life or death. Juicing Hard at 50+ is a good way to die from a heart attack. That should mean more to anyone.
At the dosages some(most) pros are talking they even die in their 20s and 30s now (Dallas and Luke)
My blood pressure and cholesterol are great also not pushing anything like a 250lb pro and not 50
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My blood pressure and cholesterol are great also not pushing anything like a 250lb pro and not 50
so just pushing drugs like a 250lb amtuer gotcha.
Shaped like a fridge
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so just pushing drugs like a 250lb amtuer gotcha.
Shaped like a fridge
Everything I do makes me healthier. I am not pushing drugs. I am working out exercising eating right and monitoring my blood work. Bodybuilding is not a crime
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Everything I do makes me healthier. I am not pushing drugs. I am working out exercising eating right and monitoring my blood work. Bodybuilding is not a crime
weren't you shitting blood last week?
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Everything I do makes me healthier. I am not pushing drugs. I am working out exercising eating right and monitoring my blood work. Bodybuilding is not a crime
You said you wouldn't go to a doc for TRT because they wanted to do bloodwork?
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weren't you shitting blood last week?
:D It's all part of the healthy bodybuilding lifestyle.
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I'm not surprised.
He's still on AAS. Just not as much.
What part of "he's doing FAR LESS of everything" didn't you understand? He's also not eating as much or training as hard.
You have no idea what he does.
Cutler is retired too.
I've lived the dream bro.
So, you have a Sandow on your mantle? Didn't think so.
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What part of "he's doing FAR LESS of everything" didn't you understand? He's also not eating as much or training as hard.
So, you have a Sandow on your mantle? Didn't think so.
No need to yell bro.
Believe what you wish.
I lived it.
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They haven't validated shit. You have NO idea what is said privately. They gave these quotes for the mags as a JOKE, I guarantee they were laughing at the absurd things they said.
If I showed pics of O'Hearn to top amateurs and pros and asked if he could be natural they would say "wtf don't tell me you are so naive!" And I've done so.
You have not been in the lifestyle yourself so you just don't know how the conversations go. You don't think O'Hearns juicing specifics hasn't leaked in say Gold's Venice? They all know his use has spanned decades consistently.
And yet in this internet era (about which you claim I'm ignorant because I'm stuck on magazines from the 90s/2000s), where people LOVE to tear others down for whatever reason, somehow....someway, the secret society of bodybuilders have vowed to sacrifice their firstborn children before "outing" their iron brethren who claim to be natural.
I didn't bring up Ashley or O'Hearn; you and Bevo did. And you're fuming over the fact that I mentioned NO ONE should be surprised that a RETIRED Dexter Jackson is smaller.
WHY? Because he is doing less of EVERYTHING: Training, eating, and the use of anabolics.
No need to yell bro.
Believe what you wish.
I lived it.
So, despite your continued training hard and eating thousands of calories, you've reverted to being a twig, simply because you aren't taking steroids anymore (as you would have everyone believe to be the case with Jackson)?
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So, despite your continued training hard and eating thousands of calories, you've reverted to being a twig, simply because you aren't taking steroids anymore (as you would have everyone believe to be the case with Jackson)?
I still use AAS, just much less.
Same with Dexter, Jay, Ronnie, etc.
You back in down a bit for your health.
Dex was massive not long ago. He backed off the AAS to stay healthy and that's why he looks so smooth and flat.
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I still use AAS, just much less.
Same with Dexter, Jay, Ronnie, etc.
You back in down a bit for your health.
Dex was massive not long ago. He backed off the AAS to stay healthy and that's why he looks so smooth and flat.
The whole point I was making was how quickly the change was, of course if you back down on everything the changes are evident
I would reckon if Dexter slowed down on the training, and slowed down on the eating but was blasting “heavy cycles” still he would still be massive, not stage ready but he’ll retain his “3D” round look
Just goes to show top elite genes and drugs are the most important aspect
Keep in mind these guys are very little to begin with, almost all pro bbers are “small individuals” small structure. Majority aren’t even 5’10 or above, naturally they aren’t that big to begin with, a man that is 5’6 -5’9 in bbing isn’t big naturally no matter how much food they stuff and how much training they do, just ain’t happening
Genetics + Drugs are the key factors, food and training is next
Drugs let these guys go beyond their genetic potential, that’s a given. Take out the drugs and eat massive and train as hard as you can and see what happens
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And yet in this internet era (about which you claim I'm ignorant because I'm stuck on magazines from the 90s/2000s), where people LOVE to tear others down for whatever reason, somehow....someway, the secret society of bodybuilders have vowed to sacrifice their firstborn children before "outing" their iron brethren who claim to be natural.
I didn't bring up Ashley or O'Hearn; you and Bevo did. And you're fuming over the fact that I mentioned NO ONE should be surprised that a RETIRED Dexter Jackson is smaller.
WHY? Because he is doing less of EVERYTHING: Training, eating, and the use of anabolics.
So, despite your continued training hard and eating thousands of calories, you've reverted to being a twig, simply because you aren't taking steroids anymore (as you would have everyone believe to be the case with Jackson)?
I'm not really fuming, I don't really have anything against you. It's just that I think you aren't seeing the whole picture. I think if you communicated with bodybuilders you'd see what they really think about these silly claims.
It's also not tearing down bodybuilders for no reason. There is no longer any good reason to claim natural when you're not. It doesn't make you any more likeable, it just pisses people off. The cat has been out of the bag for awhile now, most everyone knows.
If someone got off steroids completely after a long time off they'd likely look worse that if they never took any steroids at all. The body would be in a state of shock.
I would reckon if Dexter slowed down on the training, and slowed down on the eating but was blasting “heavy cycles” still he would still be massive, not stage ready but he’ll retain his “3D” round look
If he stayed on this past year but didn't train or eat perfectly he'd mostly still look like his old self, maybe 10lbs smaller. Steroids are very effective for that. A while back I took a year off but continued with some steroids and I hardly lost anything, coworkers absolutely wouldn't believe I hadn't seen the gym for a year, some actually thought I'd gotten bigger.
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I'm not really fuming, I don't really have anything against you. It's just that I think you aren't seeing the whole picture. I think if you communicated with bodybuilders you'd see what they really think about these silly claims.
It's also not tearing down bodybuilders for no reason. There is no longer any good reason to claim natural when you're not. It doesn't make you any more likeable, it just pisses people off. The cat has been out of the bag for awhile now, most everyone knows.
If someone got off steroids completely after a long time off they'd likely look worse that if they never took any steroids at all. The body would be in a state of shock.
Just take a look at the pics of Mike O Hearn’s non existent balls, that tells the whole story ;D
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The whole point I was making was how quickly the change was, of course if you back down on everything the changes are evident
I would reckon if Dexter slowed down on the training, and slowed down on the eating but was blasting “heavy cycles” still he would still be massive, not stage ready but he’ll retain his “3D” round look
Just goes to show top elite genes and drugs are the most important aspect
Keep in mind these guys are very little to begin with, almost all pro bbers are “small individuals” small structure. Majority aren’t even 5’10 or above, naturally they aren’t that big to begin with, a man that is 5’6 -5’9 in bbing isn’t big naturally no matter how much food they stuff and how much training they do, just ain’t happening
Genetics + Drugs are the key factors, food and training is next
Drugs let these guys go beyond their genetic potential, that’s a given. Take out the drugs and eat massive and train as hard as you can and see what happens
Good post, i agree.
The most important factor at this level are the drugs. You stop taking large amounts of AAS for 6 months and you will shrink down very quickly. If you lower your food intake and training, not so much.
If you remove the drugs and just eat tons of food and train, you will get very soft and smooth, like Dex is now.
That 3D swollen look is 100% from drugs, mainly GH and Slin.
I've posted this many times and the food>drugs crowd still refuses to believe.
12 years ago i was 260 pounds with a 32" waist. I was taking ~2000mg of combined AAS with GH and Slin. For an experiment i lowered my calories from around 5k down to 2500, cut in half. Drugs and training same/same. In 4 months the only thing that changed was that i lost 10 pounds and was leaner. I looked incredible.
Obviously food and training are very important, but the major factor here is drugs and a persons response to them.
I pretty much eat the same year round now, except for Feb-May where i cut carbs and lean out a bit. After my last big cycle i dropped down to 200mg of Test every 7 days. I lost almost 20 pounds in 2 months and looked soft as shit. That's how it all works.
These guys read mags and online nonsense for guys who have a lot to lose by telling the truth. They are selling a lie. Selling garbage supplements to make a living, i understand why they lie so much.
I've lived this shit, trained with world class bodybuilders and power lifters for over 15 years. Seen what these guys take and what it takes to be at the top of the game. Food is very important, but at the end of the day Pro BBing as ALL about drugs; bulking, cutting, diuretics, etc. It's not possible without these things.
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If he stayed on this past year but didn't train or eat perfectly he'd mostly still look like his old self, maybe 10lbs smaller. Steroids are very effective for that. A while back I took a year off but continued with some steroids and I hardly lost anything, coworkers absolutely wouldn't believe I hadn't seen the gym for a year, some actually thought I'd gotten bigger.
Steroids prevent muscle wasting in people who are very ill. That's one of the primary uses of all Anabolic Steroids.
That's what they do.
To say it's all based on food is extremely ignorant and borderline idiotic.
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The last 1:00 of the video is crazy.
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If he stayed on this past year but didn't train or eat perfectly he'd mostly still look like his old self, maybe 10lbs smaller. Steroids are very effective for that. A while back I took a year off but continued with some steroids and I hardly lost anything, coworkers absolutely wouldn't believe I hadn't seen the gym for a year, some actually thought I'd gotten bigger.
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You named anomalies in bbing, those aren’t the norm
Now compare with all the other O winners and pro competitors
I did.
A number of bodybuilding legends have lamented about the lack of teenage bodybuilders coming up through the ranks, like the Shawn Rays, Lee Haneys, Tony Pearsons, Dennis Newmans, and other big names from days of yore.
Phil Heath is the only guy off the top of my head, who turned pro in his early/mid 20s.
Here's a brief list of guys who were somewhat long in the tooth, when they turned pro.
NPC Nationals Champs
Johnnie Jackson - early 30s
Toney Freeman - mid/late 30s
Matt Duval - mid 30s
Bill Willmore - mid 30s
Ed Nunn - mid/late 30s
USA Champions
Bob Chicherillo - mid 30s
Quincy Taylor - mid 30s
Idrise Ward-El - mid/early 30s
Desmond Miller - mid 30s
North American Champions
Jeramy Freeman - early 30s
Marcus Haley - mid 30s
Michael Lockett- early 30s
That's just a small sample. When you factor in the class winners that turn pro at these shows and the Masters divisions, that's a LOT of 35+ dudes entering the pro ranks.
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;D ;D ;D
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Hahahaha!
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I did.
A number of bodybuilding legends have lamented about the lack of teenage bodybuilders coming up through the ranks, like the Shawn Rays, Lee Haneys, Tony Pearsons, Dennis Newmans, and other big names from days of yore.
Phil Heath is the only guy off the top of my head, who turned pro in his early/mid 20s.
Here's a brief list of guys who were somewhat long in the tooth, when they turned pro.
NPC Nationals Champs
Johnnie Jackson - early 30s
Toney Freeman - mid/late 30s
Matt Duval - mid 30s
Bill Willmore - mid 30s
Ed Nunn - mid/late 30s
USA Champions
Bob Chicherillo - mid 30s
Quincy Taylor - mid 30s
Idrise Ward-El - mid/early 30s
Desmond Miller - mid 30s
North American Champions
Jeramy Freeman - early 30s
Marcus Haley - mid 30s
Michael Lockett- early 30s
That's just a small sample. When you factor in the class winners that turn pro at these shows and the Masters divisions, that's a LOT of 35+ dudes entering the pro ranks.
You were stating 40+ year olds, rhoden being the oldest bber to win the O, Dexter being one of the rare if not only one, at his age being very competitive still
Where are the 40+ year olds?? Are they common? No
We aren’t talking about turning pro at a young age or competing in their 30’s.
40+ year old bbers who are competing and still competitive are few, far, and in between, it isn’t the norm
Even then, most guys that hit mid 30’s aren’t that competitive anymore, they can still compete, but for most, winning the O, and being on top is pretty much over
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You were stating 40+ year olds, rhoden being the oldest bber to win the O, Dexter being one of the rare if not only one, at his age being very competitive still
Where are the 40+ year olds?? Are they common? No
We aren’t talking about turning pro at a young age or competing in their 30’s.
40+ year old bbers who are competing and still competitive are few, far, and in between, it isn’t the norm
Even then, most guys that hit mid 30’s aren’t that competitive anymore, they can still compete, but for most, winning the O, and being on top is pretty much over
If they're turning pro in the mid/late 30s, many of them are still competing in their 40s. Nunn, Freeman, J.Jackson, are among those who were competing in their 40s. Johnnie Jackson won his last pro show (2017 Toronto) at 46. Ronnie Coleman won at least 2 Sandows in his 40s. Dennis James was competing and winning in his 40s. Same with Darrem Charles. And we all know about Dexter Jackson.
BTW, the last two Mr. Os (Brandon Curry and Mahmoud "Big Ramy" Elssbiay) won their titles in the late 30s. Are they going to be washed up in 3-4 years? I doubt it.
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If they're turning pro in the mid/late 30s, many of them are still competing in their 40s. Nunn, Freeman, J.Jackson, are among those who were competing in their 40s. Johnnie Jackson won his last pro show (2017 Toronto) at 46. Ronnie Coleman won at least 2 Sandows in his 40s. Dennis James was competing and winning in his 40s. Same with Darrem Charles. And we all know about Dexter Jackson.
BTW, the last two Mr. Os (Brandon Curry and Mahmoud "Big Ramy" Elssbiay) won their titles in the late 30s. Are they going to be washed up in 3-4 years? I doubt it.
Vince Taylor as well 30s and he won shows in few decades
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Vince Taylor as well 30s and he won shows in few decades
Yes, indeed. He placed 11th in the 2006 Mr. Olympia at age 50.
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Shit... made me spit out my coffee... Lol