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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Hurricane Beef ! on April 23, 2006, 03:27:06 AM
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Guys check out this youtube video. In it you can really see how much oil Flex used at his peak. Having said that, he looks out of this world in this clip.
http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=m3N8YFtt8r4&search=bodybuilder
The Beef
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he's one of the best there ever was, oil or not.
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Dear god! i never realised his arms were that huge! they have to be some of the best guns ever
its strange that when ppl start "who had the best arms" threads that wheeler isnt usually mentioned
How did this guy never win an O? Dorian was bigger than flex but its not like flex wasnt huge himself and his shape leaves Dorians for dust! (and pretty much every other physique before or after)
Cool vid bro! one of the better clips i've seen :)
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Arms hell ...what about his hamstrings?...man in that video where it is really dark and he is walking accross the stage you can just see the outline and sweep of his hamstrings from the side...unreal.
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he's one of the best there ever was, oil or not.
I agree may-eight . . . I watched that and just about shit. Out of this world.
The Beef.
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any pro bodybuilder would look awesome under those lights.
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Arms hell ...what about his hamstrings?...man in that video where it is really dark and he is walking accross the stage you can just see the outline and sweep of his hamstrings from the side...unreal.
Yeah i see wat ya mean! best physique ive ever seen
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Yeah i see wat ya mean! best physique ive ever seen
He most definately should have a Sandow.
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Who won that show in 99? Don't tell me anyone could beat that.
The Beef
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Who won that show in 99? Don't tell me anyone could beat that.
The Beef
1 ronnie
2 flex
3 kevin
4 dex
5 milos
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heres a pic of coleman in 1999
(http://www.bk-sportsmag.se/webblogg/bilder/ronnie_coleman.jpg)
looks good but he's certainly no flex wheeler
SCREWED BIG TIME!!!!
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he's one of the best there ever was, oil or not.
Very well said. ;D
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I know it's been posted a bunch before but can someone do a link to Ronnie at that show?
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1998 was Flex's chance and it didn't happen...after that forget it.Mr. Olympia almost always wins Mr. Olympia.Ronnie is there til he retires.
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heres a pic of coleman in 1999
(http://www.bk-sportsmag.se/webblogg/bilder/ronnie_coleman.jpg)
looks good but he's certainly no flex wheeler
SCREWED BIG TIME!!!!
wrong.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/2.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/1999BritishGrandPrix_0059.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/1999BritishGrandPrix_0057.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/1999BritishGrandPrix_0062.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/1999BritishGrandPrix_0060.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_2__0032.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0072.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0074.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0093.jpg)
Ronnie won.
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Dear god! i never realised his arms were that huge! they have to be some of the best guns ever
its strange that when ppl start "who had the best arms" threads that wheeler isnt usually mentioned
How did this guy never win an O? Dorian was bigger than flex but its not like flex wasnt huge himself and his shape leaves Dorians for dust! (and pretty much every other physique before or after)
Cool vid bro! one of the better clips i've seen :)
Exactly... flex's arms are very underated...
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people ronnie kicks flex wheelers ass in every pose wat so ever.....flex wheeler was the most over-rated pro in the history of bodybuilding.....his all 4 arnold classic wins were the biggest gifts ever to b given 2 a pro...FLEX WHEELER WAS SMALL AND WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY OVER-RATED....HE SUCKS
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Ronnie in those pics would have smoked anyone in history....yes Dorian nuthuggers this means him also. His arms were unmatched then, far cry from today. My God, his waist was tight and he even had calves. The man is the living epitome is shapely muscle. He did warp his physique I now realize by going for the size game. His 250 would have busted out anyone at 265 to 270. Even Haney would have lost to him :o. Now I finally realize why Hulkster raves about this guys physique in the late 90's. I always like the huge 2003 Ronnie, but this version was better. Come on ND, why don't you pipe up your piehole and start blasting pics of Dorian and Bannout to try to disprove what anyone with eyes and commonsense already knows....RC was the best of alltime (obviously not the 2006 version, but we shall see at the Mr. Olympia).
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people ronnie kicks flex wheelers ass in every pose wat so ever.....flex wheeler was the most over-rated pro in the history of bodybuilding.....his all 4 arnold classic wins were the biggest gifts ever to b given 2 a pro...FLEX WHEELER WAS SMALL AND WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY OVER-RATED....HE SUCKS
hahahaha.. yea Flex "sucks".. you guys are too much
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people ronnie kicks flex wheelers ass in every pose wat so ever.....flex wheeler was the most over-rated pro in the history of bodybuilding.....his all 4 arnold classic wins were the biggest gifts ever to b given 2 a pro...FLEX WHEELER WAS SMALL AND WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY OVER-RATED....HE SUCKS
m e l t d o w n
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Amazing what drugs can do . . . behold the miracle of science!
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wtf
http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=hCnwc76E91w&search=flex
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1999 Flex lost fairly to ronnie. So did the 98 Flex. And the 2000 Flex. and the...
Flex never came in top shape for the Olympia. And, given the way Ronnie looked at the 99 British Grand Prix, even if Flex had shown up in his 93 AC shape, he still would have lost. Maybe it was the lighting, but the 99 Grand Prix pics look like Ronnie most detailed ever (and his waist was tiny). His quads were super-cut at that show. and his arms set a new standard:
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/47.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_2__0033.jpg)
no one has ever had better arms than this..
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/52.jpg)
supersliced quads!
and don't forget about the back.
Even Flex 93 AC would have lost to this.
And don't even start with dorian - he would have been totally outclassed with his wide waist and lack of arms, quads and detail.
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(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0074.jpg)
:o
check out the width on Ronnie's back! Dorian who? ;D
Seriously though, Ronnie's back and arms were unmatched at that show. Check out how much better his arms look than Levrones in the side chest and front double bi! Unreal.
And man, Flex's calves look like they are about to slide off his body. you can practically see the oil port! 8)
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you cant have a mr O who's full of oil .... all the competitiors would then go apeshit with synthol tryin to win.
synthol use is bad enough in the pro ranks .. but at least its only some pros usin some oil on some laggin bodyparts.... you have the standard bearer full of oil and the sport would have been F'UCKED !
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Flex looks insane at that show.....very pleasing physique with massive size.
Ronnie did actually beat him, but I prefer Flex's physique....looks more "normal" if you can look normal at that size.
Ronnies is just to fucking huge.
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any pro bodybuilder would look awesome under those lights.
Not like that.
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wrong.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/2.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/1999BritishGrandPrix_0059.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/1999BritishGrandPrix_0057.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/1999BritishGrandPrix_0062.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/1999BritishGrandPrix_0060.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_2__0032.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0072.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0074.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0093.jpg)
Ronnie won.
That show has & always will be argued that Ronnie shouldn't have had straight firsts. In the pics that you show, Ronnie only dominates from the rear.
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any pro bodybuilder would look awesome under those lights.
Great point any bodybuilder in shape would !!
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cool song 8)
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wow !!!!! the man looked incredible. i bet that 9 out of 10 people would prefer flex's or levrone's physique in thier primes rather the colemans. not taking a cheap shit at coleman !!!! he is the the man !!!!!! i think coleman looked his best in 98' 99' and 2003
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That show has & always will be argued that Ronnie shouldn't have had straight firsts. In the pics that you show, Ronnie only dominates from the rear.
no he doesn't - he dominated from a whole lot more than the rear.
As good as shape as the sultan of synthol and kevin where, Ronnie was amazing that night.
And as far as the lighting goes, saying that anyone would look good under those lights is bullshit.
ONLY bodybuilders with DEEP CUTS like Flex and Ronnie would look really good. Notice that Kevin does not look as good as Flex and Ronnie because he is
a) not as detailed
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b) the cuts are not as deeply etched.
For example, under that lighting, Dorian's arms and quads would STILL looks sub-par, because they lack the deep detail.
Deep cuts allows the light to throw more of a shadow, allowing for a greater contrast which highlights the cuts even more.
eg:
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_2__0032.jpg)
notice how much more impressive Ronnie's arm looks than Levrone's: the reason is that the detail stands out a lot more under that amazing lighting.
If you are not as detailed, the lighting won't help.
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Great point any bodybuilder in shape would !!
the lighting was amazing, but, as I have shown, bodybuilders who lacked deep detail (eg. Kevin, dorian etc) would not look as amazing as guys like Flex, ronnie or even Dexter.
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probably one of the last shows where ronnie had a flat stomach.
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you cant have a mr O who's full of oil .... all the competitiors would then go apeshit with synthol tryin to win.
synthol use is bad enough in the pro ranks .. but at least its only some pros usin some oil on some laggin bodyparts.... you have the standard bearer full of oil and the sport would have been F'UCKED !
Amen, and that is why I couldn't stand the 99-2000 Flex, it was apparent in his delts that had syn in them. And then he complains why he didn't win, the mofo didn't deserve to win with oil in body. He didn't take it seriously in 98, and thought he could walk up and take the O, well, he didn't count on Ronnie peaking.
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Well considering black guys have an easier time getting hard and shredded it is no wonder that Ronnie and Flex (both 100% black or close to it) looked more cut. Look at a black guy and a white guy, both the same size and condition, who will look better? Most likely the black guy. That has alot to do with Ronnie and Flex looking more deeply cut than Kevin.
??? Kevin's not black now? Coulda' fooled me. ::)
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I don't know what you guys are talking about but at that point everyone's game was ON everyone was so razor sharp it was mind boggling,it seems now bodies are adapting to the dieting and drugs so more is going in but just not showing out.
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no he doesn't - he dominated from a whole lot more than the rear.
As good as shape as the sultan of synthol and kevin where, Ronnie was amazing that night.
And as far as the lighting goes, saying that anyone would look good under those lights is bullshit.
ONLY bodybuilders with DEEP CUTS like Flex and Ronnie would look really good. Notice that Kevin does not look as good as Flex and Ronnie because he is
a) not as detailed
and
b) the cuts are not as deeply etched.
For example, under that lighting, Dorian's arms and quads would STILL looks sub-par, because they lack the deep detail.
Deep cuts allows the light to throw more of a shadow, allowing for a greater contrast which highlights the cuts even more.
eg:
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_2__0032.jpg)
notice how much more impressive Ronnie's arm looks than Levrone's: the reason is that the detail stands out a lot more under that amazing lighting.
If you are not as detailed, the lighting won't help.
Ronnie's arms may look better but Kev is just destroying Ronnie in that side chest .
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Guys check out this youtube video. In it you can really see how much oil Flex used at his peak. Having said that, he looks out of this world in this clip.
http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=m3N8YFtt8r4&search=bodybuilder
The Beef
actually flex never used a whole lot of roids..quite moderate dosages actually. just awesome genetics and a whole lot of hard work.
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Why don't more shows use the same lighting as this show did?
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actually flex never used a whole lot of roids..quite moderate dosages actually. just awesome genetics and a whole lot of hard work.
lol you really need to get back to school!
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lol you really need to get back to school!
i speak the truth
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Why don't more shows use the same lighting as this show did?
Kamali has the same lighting in his kitchen.
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Ronnie and Flex both look amazing. However Ronnie looks better. With all the money involved in that show you cant blame flex for trying to get an edge with oil, bro had to pay the bills.
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but Flex shouldn't had had to resort to oil - he has beaten bigger guys before (eg. nasser) even though he was smaller.
Instead of using oil to try and win the mass game, he should have done what worked in 1993: come in as razor sharp as possible.
However, his 1993 AC shape would not have been enough that night, but if he was even better than 93, then maybe he would have won.
Its hard to fathom Flex beating Ronnie with the detail that Ronnie had that night - he would have crushed Flex in all poses except for the ab and thigh.
I think Flex had arguably the greatest ab and thigh ever (with the possible exception of Shawn Ray)
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He looked good but had more oil than Jiffy Lube
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the lighting for that show was perfect....That was the show LEvrone looked SICK in too...just very dark/ shadowy..
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Just shows how the bodies today, Ronnies included, are nowhere near where they were....this sport is not progressing ..just getting UGLIER...Flex looks outrageous....I still argue his 93 ASC is the best onstage physique EVER.
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Just shows how the bodies today, Ronnies included, are nowhere near where they were....this sport is not progressing ..just getting UGLIER...Flex looks outrageous....I still argue his 93 ASC is the best onstage physique EVER.
2001 ronnie asc. almost universally considered the best a bodybuilder has ever looked.
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Kamali has the same lighting in his kitchen.
SO TRUE
(http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2046)
(http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2047)
(http://kingkamali.com/gallery/archives/3/photos/img0043.jpg)
(that last pic was on his official website so i don't think that it was photoshopped...)
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Coleman DESTROYED the field in 1999. Not even close
Chris Cormier shouldve been second that year. Flex was LUCKY to be 2nd!
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the lighting at the Ironman is always king - 97 was my fav
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Ronnie was the best man onstage and yet I love to rip on him. You fucking people are neophytes at understanding muscular anatomy.
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Ronnie definitely looked better in 1999 than now.
IMO, Flex in 1993 is the best physique of all time.
cap, I disagree. In general (there are exceptions), seems black guys often have larger muscle bellies per bone structure in their upper bodies. Because of that maybe you could say some black competitors have an edge with separation but thats not conditioning or cuts. The two most "cut" athletes in BBing history are probably Andreas Munzer and a middle eastern competitor whos name escapes me at the moment.
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IMO, Flex in 1993 is the best physique of all time.
Flex ran into a Buzz Saw named Yates who put an end to the 1993 Flex Wheeler hype. Dorian had the Americans shook that year. Nobody expected what Yates did in 93.
(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1216/1/istockphoto_1216_buzz_saw_blade.jpg)
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Flex was amazing, but he had really poor lats. Thats part of why he ever beat Ronnie or Dorian. He went up against two of the three greatest lats of all time (with the other being Haney or Sergio).
His rear lat spread was really bad for width and taper.
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Flex was amazing, but he had really poor lats. Thats part of why he ever beat Ronnie or Dorian. He went up against two of the three greatest lats of all time (with the other being Haney or Sergio).
His rear lat spread was really bad for width and taper.
Flex's latspread, glutes and hams were not what they could have been :-\
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Ronnie definitely looked better in 1999 than now.
IMO, Flex in 1993 is the best physique of all time.
cap, I disagree. In general (there are exceptions), seems black guys often have larger muscle bellies per bone structure in their upper bodies. Because of that maybe you could say some black competitors have an edge with separation but thats not conditioning or cuts. The two most "cut" athletes in BBing history are probably Andreas Munzer and a middle eastern competitor whos name escapes me at the moment.
Hamdulla Aykutlu(sp) ???
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Hamdulla Aykutlu(sp) ???
That's him. He was amazing :o
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Hamdulla Aykutlu(sp) ???
:o
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bump for a brilliant video
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actually flex never used a whole lot of roids..quite moderate dosages actually. just awesome genetics and a whole lot of hard work.
LOL, flex admitted that he would pass out after having so many injections at one time and just tell his wife to keep going even though he would pass out.
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I need to get this DVD to review. It may very well be the best ever bodybuilding competition. A lot of big names were at that show as well:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999grandprixenglandresults.html
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/7.jpg)
I like Ronnie's Skull.
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LOL, flex admitted that he would pass out after having so many injections at one time and just tell his wife to keep going even though he would pass out.
Don't say stuff like that.
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Anyone got pictures from the 2001 ASC?
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Anyone got pictures from the 2001 ASC?
http://www.dennis-james.com/Gallery/01ac.htm
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Flex was LUCKY to be 2nd!
>:(
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Flex looked dumb, plain and simple, in 1999. His arms looked to fake compared to Coleman's I'm surprised he wasn't laughed off stage :-\
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IMO, Flex in 1993 is the best physique of all time.
That's not an opinion, that's a fact! Well.... next to Arnold. ;D
(http://teamflexwheeler.com/flex/image6_/COLL04235.jpg)
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That's not an opinion, that's a fact! Well.... next to Arnold. ;D
(http://teamflexwheeler.com/flex/image6_/COLL04235.jpg)
and Ronnie...
:)
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hahaha.... I knew you were gonna chime in there, Hulkster.