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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NickEdge779 on February 25, 2022, 06:57:57 AM
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Very sad news
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This is sad, RIP
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Holy Shit!!!
Can this be true?
Who had him in the Death Pool?
PIP young fella
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Jesus Christ that`s a freakin` shame.....and for what being a human guinea pig?
Way too young and died for nothing....poor kid.
RIP
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Nice kid. Dumb but nice.
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He had Stage 5 Kidney Failure....wasnt expecting for him to recover
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Even though I shouldn’t be I was shocked just reading this. RIP.
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He had Stage 5 Kidney Failure....wasnt expecting for him to recover
Yeah, but he "felt fine" and "didn't need dialysis yet" ::)
*sigh* 29 is no age
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Was the laith dude not using his medical knowledge/bro science to help bostin?
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Just one of many cases/reasons where some guys should just not push the boundaries of PEDS.............no genetics to ever turn pro,or even win on a national level.
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I've been surprised at the lack of extremely negative comments on this.
Kid was a complete moron, but was very nice and helped people when he could. No one should be happy he died.
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Even though I shouldn’t be I was shocked just reading this. RIP.
Same here. It's surprising and sad. He had a young family. RIP.
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Bostin was a product of the 2010s era where guys went full retard thinking they found the miracle via mega dosing roids (not understanding that if you don't have the genetics, there's really no point going beyond gym rat/weekend warrior dosages).
Partly gh15 influenced, partly as a response to the fake natty/ifbbs take a cc of winnie and a couple anavars era pre-2010s.
Then there was the moronic synthol shit ::)
I really feel sorry for the guy and his family.
It also shows the difference between high national level genetics (rich piana) and amateur level genetics (bostin). Same level of abuse but one guy was able to last 15-20 years more because his genetics were more resistant to the sides.
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He actually blamed a specific peptide for his kidney failure not aas
https://fitnessvolt.com/bostin-loyd-peptide-kidney-failure/
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Jesus that's young! Maybe there was actual gear in all the underground juice he was taking. His genetics were really that bad. Which is wild considering what his dad looked like. Way too young. RIP. Didn't he jus have a kid?
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He actually blamed a specific peptide for his kidney failure not aas
https://fitnessvolt.com/bostin-loyd-peptide-kidney-failure/
Just be careful hanky. Time to be happy just being a trt dad.
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I've been surprised at the lack of extremely negative comments on this.
Kid was a complete moron, but was very nice and helped people when he could. No one should be happy he died.
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I've been surprised at the lack of extremely negative comments on this.
Kid was a complete moron, but was very nice and helped people when he could. No one should be happy he died.
We've all been through the dumb roidcel phase so we can relate. With bostin it's just that he seemed to have some autism which led him to take it too far.
He was definitely a good hearted dude like the piano man which makes it hard to speak too negatively.
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I've been surprised at the lack of extremely negative comments on this.
Kid was a complete moron, but was very nice and helped people when he could. No one should be happy he died.
Give it half an hour...
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Bostin was a product of the 2010s era where guys went full retard thinking they found the miracle via mega dosing roids (not understanding that if you don't have the genetics, there's really no point going beyond gym rat/weekend warrior dosages).
Partly gh15 influenced, partly as a response to the fake natty/ifbbs take a cc of winnie and a couple anavars era pre-2010s.
Then there was the moronic synthol shit ::)
I really feel sorry for the guy and his family.
It also shows the difference between high national level genetics (rich piana) and amateur level genetics (bostin). Same level of abuse but one guy was able to last 15-20 years more because his genetics were more resistant to the sides.
Great post and sums it up perfectly.
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Give it half an hour...
I meant on other platforms as well, I know it is going to happen here.
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WHAT???
I'm appalled,, so young... :o
RIP ironbrother.
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Bodies. Show me them.
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RIP, sad to hear it. He was a bit goofy, but he was also honest, and seemed like a nice guy.
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Jesus Christ that`s a freakin` shame.....and for what being a human guinea pig?
Way too young and died for nothing....poor kid.
RIP
My sentiments exactly, bud.
Was it his kidney issues? Cause Tom Prince just lasted 18+ years on dialysis.
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Bostin was doing some dumb shit as well like IV injections penis injections synthol site injections self drainage of Abscesses DNP and reusing dirty needles no reason for that then he wonders why he gets infections and has to get chunks of his arm cut out and his organs give out. That shit isn't bodybuilding
Tired of people doing dumb shit like Synthnol and peptides know to cause acute kidney failure in primates and recreational drugs and DNP then everyone blaming aas when he gets acute kidney failure has a heart attack and dies. Bostin didn't die from steroids he died from fucking synthol and experimental peptides recreational drugs and DNP then multiple infections from dirty underground products and needles destroying his organs. This dude was also using recreationally drugs and non human tested experimental products and dead oils. None of that shit is bodybuilding. Yet bodybuilding gets blamed for his death. Everyone better not touch anabolic bullshit anabolic didn't kill him all the other poisons he was taking killed him.
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My sentiments exactly, bud.
Was it his kidney issues? Cause Tom Prince just lasted 18+ years on dialysis.
Apparently a heart attack after a workout - Loyd had refused to start dialysis as he "felt fine"
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Bostin was doing some dumb shit as well like IV injections penis injections synthol site injections self drainage of Abscesses DNP and reusing dirty needles no reason for that then he wonders why he gets infections and has to get chunks of his arm cut out and his organs give out. That shit isn't bodybuilding
Tired of people doing dumb shit like Synthnol and peptides know to cause acute kidney failure in primates and recreational drugs and DNP then everyone blaming aas when he gets acute kidney failure has a heart attack and dies. Bostin didn't die from steroids he died from fucking synthol and experimental peptides recreational drugs and DNP then multiple infections from dirty underground products and needles destroying his organs. This dude was also using recreationally drugs and non human tested experimental products and dead oils. None of that shit is bodybuilding. Yet bodybuilding gets blamed for his death. Everyone better not touch anabolic bullshit anabolic didn't kill him all the other poisons he was taking killed him.
Whatever you need to tell yourself. Boston thought he was fine up until the end too.
RIP sad for his family.
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Whatever you need to tell yourself. Boston thought he was fine up until the end too.
RIP sad for his family.
I am not telling myself anything I am stating the actual facts Bostin didn't die from Deca
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RIP but for f sake people - stop abusing roids.
Another gaslighting video from RX on the way.
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Apparently a heart attack after a workout - Loyd had refused to start dialysis as he "felt fine"
How the Fuck do you have a heart attack at 29? I know it's not impossible, but the odds are like winning the lottery. If you are right, and he refused dialysis, then that's exactly why he died.
His Kidneys literally shut down.
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I am not telling myself anything I am stating the actual facts Bostin didn't die from Deca
You'e right. Sounds like he died of kidney failure.
That would explain the lean body mass with the bloated face..... poor guy never even saw it coming.
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Bostin, Rest In Hell you dumb idiot.
He was a walking chemical experiment. Basically a slow way of commiting suicide. Very good idea, especially if you have a child to take care of.
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Sad to learn of his passing .....
I met him at a local gym , back then he was trying to get everyone's attention ( this was about a year before he became known )
why he became so famous ? ..... he was a game changer in this hypocrisy of industry , like it or not .....
Not saying he did right thing " by any means ....but there's not a Right thing or honest way to make money in this muscle industry anyway.
WooOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
WoooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH
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How the Fuck do you have a heart attack at 29? I know it's not impossible, but the odds are like winning the lottery. If you are right, and he refused dialysis, then that's exactly why he died.
His Kidneys literally shut down.
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heart attack??
was he jabbed?? (besides his own jabs)? thank god we have little-willy trigilli on the scene ::)
In what has already been a sad week for bodybuilding, Bostin Loyd has passed away at just 29 years old on Feb. 25, 2022. Nick Trigili shared that Springfield, FL. paramedics confirmed that he passed out after going to the gym, and they unsuccessfully performed CPR until he died at the hospital.
According to Nick Trigili with Bodybuilding and B**s on YouTube, Bostin has tragically passed away before turning 30 and believes a heart attack to be the cause of death. Loyd leaves behind his loving wife and son.
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Bostin, Rest In Hell you dumb idiot.
He was a walking chemical experiment. Basically a slow way of commiting suicide. Very good idea, especially if you have a child to take care of.
Calm down. Rest in hell? Are you perfect?
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You'e right. Sounds like he died of kidney failure.
That would explain the lean body mass with the bloated face..... poor guy never even saw it coming.
He didn't get kidney failure from anabolic he was taking a peptide Adipotide that causes acute kidney failure in primates and his creatinine levels went from 2-6 in like a month. He was also abusing recreational drugs I have seen him admit to oral opiate usage in his videos guess what percocets cause kidney damage. And he was using DNP which also causes kidney damage. He was also using synthol another non anabolic compound known to cause kidney damage. So again this wasn't from steroids
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WHO IS TAKING CARE OF PALUMBO NOW?
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He didn't get kidney failure from anabolic he was taking a peptide Adipotide that causes acute kidney failure in primates and his creatinine levels went from 2-6 in like a month. He was also abusing recreational drugs I have seen him admit to oral opiate usage in his videos guess what percocets cause kidney damage. And he was using DNP which also causes kidney damage. He was also using synthol another non anabolic compound known to cause kidney damage. So again this wasn't from steroids
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No. Do you have brain damage? The kid just died.
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will guy cisternino report that he just lost his best friend???
-like he does whenever someone dies??
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Bostin was doing some dumb shit as well like IV injections penis injections synthol site injections self drainage of Abscesses DNP and reusing dirty needles no reason for that then he wonders why he gets infections and has to get chunks of his arm cut out and his organs give out. That shit isn't bodybuilding
Tired of people doing dumb shit like Synthnol and peptides know to cause acute kidney failure in primates and recreational drugs and DNP then everyone blaming aas when he gets acute kidney failure has a heart attack and dies. Bostin didn't die from steroids he died from fucking synthol and experimental peptides recreational drugs and DNP then multiple infections from dirty underground products and needles destroying his organs. This dude was also using recreationally drugs and non human tested experimental products and dead oils. None of that shit is bodybuilding. Yet bodybuilding gets blamed for his death. Everyone better not touch anabolic bullshit anabolic didn't kill him all the other poisons he was taking killed him.
He wasn't into "rec" drugs.
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No. Do you have brain damage? The kid just died.
thats ok
if bostin read "soul crusher just died" he would give 2-fucks
no one cares except his loved ones and retarded followers
is it a shame? sure.
should we give a fuck?? no
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No. Do you have brain damage? The kid just died.
No - responding to Bhanks comment. this is all about abuse of drugs.
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thats ok
if bostin read "soul crusher just died" he would give 2-fucks
no one cares except his loved ones and retarded followers
is it a shame? sure.
should we give a fuck?? no
The entire "industry" is a complete scam and joke and promotes deadly habits.
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He wasn't into "rec" drugs.
I think that might depend on a person's view on this - do you consider IV Nalbuphine (Nubain) a "rec" drug? (Genuine question)
Because I watched a video where he was completely open about him having done exactly that before the interview started
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I think that might depend on a person's view on this - do you consider IV Nalbuphine (Nubain) a "rec" drug? (Genuine question)
Because I watched a video where he was completely open about him having done exactly that before the interview started
I've listened to him mention experimenting with "rec" drugs but never abusing them like he did ped's.
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thats ok
if bostin read "soul crusher just died" he would give 2-fucks
no one cares except his loved ones and retarded followers
is it a shame? sure.
should we give a fuck?? no
A 29 year old man, died of a heart attack. I'd place my bets
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A 29 year old man, died of a heart attack. I'd place my bets
What are you talking about?
Why do you try to make everything about yourself?
If you want to derail threads pay attention to what Bhanks is doing and follow his lead. Otherwise stop with your fake concerns.
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team 3cc
peptides seem to be really messing people up lately
Prohibitin-targeting peptide 1 (also known as prohibitin-TP01 and TP01; trade name Adipotide) is a peptidomimetic with sequence CKGGRAKDC-GG-D(KLAKLAK)2. It is an experimental proapoptotic drug[1] that has been shown to cause rapid weight loss in mice[2] and rhesus monkeys.[3] Its mechanism of action is to target specific blood vessels supplying adipose tissue with blood, cause the vessels to shrink and the fat cells fed by those vessels to undergo apoptosis.[4] TP01 is designed to bind to two receptors, ANXA2 and prohibitin, that are specific to blood vessels supplying white adipose tissue.[5]
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He wasn't into "rec" drugs.
I have seen him talk about taking opiate based painkillers on video
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I have seen him talk about taking opiate based painkillers on video
I have also. He's stated he's tried them but never used them regularly/recreationally.
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What are uppity talking about?
Why do you try to make everything about yourself?
If you want to derail threads pay attention to what Bhanks is doing and follow his lead. Otherwise stop with your fake concerns.
Are actually serious? I'm the fake King Shizzo
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Below is a list of famous bodybuilders who have died in the past few years due to either 1) heart attack 2) kidney failure -
- Dallas McCarver
- Rich Piana
- Luke Sandoe
- John Meadows
- George Peterson
- Bostin Loyd
- Tom Prince
- Phil Hernon
- Andy Haman
- Shawn Rhoden (Recent Mr. Olympia)
And I'm sure there are many more that I didn't name.
And most recently, Antoine Vaillant and Tony Huge both reporting heart disease!!!!
THAT IS A FUCK TON OF PEOPLE JUST IN THE PAST 5 YEARS. AND THERE ARE MANY MORE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE THEY AREN'T HIGH PROFILE ATHLETES.
STOP ABUSING STEROIDS, CLEN, PEPTIDES, DIURETICS ---- PLEASE PEOPLE. IF YOU ARE GONNA DO GEAR, DO IT IN MODERATION AND DO IT SAFELY FROM AN HRT CLINIC.
It's most likely the mega dosing of hgh and maybe higher aas dosages generally, as in the old days you had to get it from the gym dealer/crooked doctor, whereas now you can get as much as you want online.
That's the main difference between the era where so many bodybuilders are dropping like flies and the eras before it.
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It's most likely the mega dosing of hgh and maybe higher aas dosages generally, as in the old days you had to get it from the gym dealer/crooked doctor, whereas now you can get as much as you want online.
That's the main difference between the era where so many bodybuilders are dropping like flies and the eras before it.
Bostin was abusing f*ing everything - Synthol, EPO, DNP, Slin; all this stuff wasn't even a thing back then. When some people are still not hearing the wake-up call now then they cannot be helped.
Crazy when dying with 29 is the price for running around a couple of years with fake muscles.
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No - responding to Bhanks comment. this is all about abuse of drugs.
I agree it is absolutely from his abuse of drugs and chemicals but not anabolics. Anabolics are rather mild. The peptide he was taking Adipotide causes kidney failure he claims he was taking 5mg or a bottle a day and shooting it into his lower back fat near his kidneys. Research in monkeys shows it causes acute kidney failure. His creatinine levels went from 2-6 in a matter of weeks using this product. It is a fat killer not an anabolic. He was also using DNP a pesticide poison and another liver killing fat burner not an anabolic. And he was shooting Synthol another liver killing product not even a drug. So while yes we can blame drug and chemical abuse it wasn't anabolics that did this to him.
If someone dies from fentanyl that doesn't mean marijuana is killing people and it should be a real wake up call to stoners
https://peptideguide.com/peptides/adipotide/
I have friends my age who started using 25-30 years ago are still using prescribed medications and are still perfectly healthy. Bostin was using multiple non human tested much less approved peptides and chemicals known to cause acute kidney failure in primates
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I agree it is absolutely from his abuse of drugs and chemicals but not anabolics. Anabolics are rather mild. The peptide he was taking Adipotide causes kidney failure he claims he was taking 5mg or a bottle a day and shooting it into his lower back fat near his kidneys. Research in monkeys shows it causes acute kidney failure. His creatinine levels went from 2-6 in a matter of weeks using this product. It is a fat killer not an anabolic. He was also using DNP a pesticide poison and another liver killing fat burner not an anabolic. And he was shooting Synthol another liver killing product not even a drug. So while yes we can blame drug and chemical abuse it wasn't anabolics that did this to him.
If someone dies from fentanyl that doesn't mean marijuana is killing people and it should be a real wake up call to stoners
https://peptideguide.com/peptides/adipotide/
esfitness level knowledge of drugs from a non drug user
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esfitness level knowledge of drugs from a non drug user
I have friends my age who started using 25-30 years ago are still using prescribed medications and are still perfectly healthy. Bostin was using multiple non human tested much less approved peptides and chemicals known to cause acute kidney failure in primates
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I have friends my age who started using 25-30 years ago are still using prescribed medications and are still perfectly healthy. Bostin was using multiple non human tested much less approved peptides and chemicals known to cause acute kidney failure in primates
and you know all this how?
Bearing in mind you keep telling people you dont use drugs
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he died from everything
he used wacky amounts of anabolics along with his peptides
heavy-anabolic use is toxic, heart killing
there are safe ways to use any medication, only he did not do that
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and you know all this how?
Bearing in mind you keep telling people you dont use drugs
Common bodybuilding knowledge you watch youtube to get exercise training and nutrition advice or contest coverage and this idiot will pop up talking about the dumbshit he is taking
It sucks he died I feel bad for his family but this wasn't from TRT with a little prescribed Deca for his joints. 10mg of Anavar from a HRT Dr didn't do this either
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keep it natural!
anti-doping!
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Common bodybuilding knowledge you watch youtube to get exercise training and nutrition advice or contest coverage and this idiot will pop up talking about the dumbshit he is taking
It sucks he died I feel bad for his family but this wasn't from TRT with a little prescribed Deca for his joints. 10mg of Anavar from a HRT Dr didn't do this either
again knowledge of drugs and doesnt use them
Fucks sake mate the games up
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again knowledge of drugs and doesnt use them
Fucks sake mate the games up
We all know he uses....the police reports say so.
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keep it natural!
anti-doping!
NATURAL BODYBUILDING LOL
There is no such thing as natural our entire environment from the food we eat to the water we drink is contaminated with hormones and endocrinologic disrupters aka chemical pollutants that act as estrogens on the body.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/estrogen-in-waterways/
Did you know tren and estrogen are both orally active? It is in the meat. It is in the milk
https://foodfacts.org.za/hormones-in-meat/
https://healthfully.com/557688-food-with-hormones-vs-food-without-hormones.html
And your genetically modified veggies are all grown and covered in chemicals
And don't even start me on the nuclear fallout we have managed to cover ourselves in testing nukes over 2000 times in the last 80 years
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There is nothing natural about anything or anyone anymore other than me and my natural state of perfection
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Bodies. Show me them.
Since he made that statement they could fill a cemetery.
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Lincoln Shot
Titanic Sinks
Hindenberg Explodes
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Agree. He is definitely next.
team 3cc
Team 6ft under
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Lincoln Shot
Titanic Sinks
Hindenberg Explodes
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Unfortunately this isn’t really a surprise.
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Sad story I feel bad for his family. Lesson here is to avoid research chemicals, peptides, synthol, and fat burning pesticides. These products are not approved for human usage and never have been for a reason.
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Unfortunately this isn’t really a surprise.
Just fucking with you Joe. :D
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Since he made that statement they could fill an Italian church.
Fixed!
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Sad story I feel bad for his family. Lesson here is to avoid research chemicals, peptides, synthol, and fat burning pesticides. These products are not approved for human usage and never have been for a reason.
dont forget heavy anabolic use
very toxic when used in high doses and for long periods
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29 is way too young to die especially when it was completely preventable, it’s sad but hopefully it wakes more bodybuilders up to the fact that running large amounts of gear will destroy your organs. If I ever hop on I’m sticking to the basics. Btw wasn’t Bostin the one saying he was on 6 grams or something like that? Imagine your kidneys having to deal with that and then all the synthol he was putting everywhere!
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Definitely fulfilled the "die trying" part of his tattoo
Hopefully this is a wake-up call to the brainless that followed his advices.
Wonder how many people did irreparable harm to themselves following his protocols
Astonishing that people listen to bro scientests like Leo, mpmd etc....this is the result. But hey they know more than Dr.s due to their practical experience.....
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Definitely fulfilled the "die trying" part of his tattoo
Hopefully this is a wake-up call to the brainless that followed his advices.
Wonder how many people did irreparable harm to themselves following his protocols
Astonishing that people listen to bro scientests like Leo, mpmd etc....this is the result. But hey they know more than Dr.s due to their practical experience.....
To be fair Bostin never advised anyone to do any large amounts of gear or peptides. He was adamant that if you didn't have the genetics blasting gear won't do anything,he didn't follow that himself though obviously.
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I've been surprised at the lack of extremely negative comments on this.
Kid was a complete moron, but was very nice and helped people when he could. No one should be happy he died.
He was asking for it but he didn't seem like a bad guy and still sad for someone so young to pass on.
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Definitely fulfilled the "die trying" part of his tattoo
Hopefully this is a wake-up call to the brainless that followed his advices.
Wonder how many people did irreparable harm to themselves following his protocols
Astonishing that people listen to bro scientests like Leo, mpmd etc....this is the result. But hey they know more than Dr.s due to their practical experience.....
All I’ve seen from Mpmd since I started watching is him suggesting the smallest dose needed to produce a response and criticizing mega dosing gear. He supposedly takes 100-120mg of test. I wouldn’t lump him in with a group of idiots
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I liked Bostin- seemed like a very good guy. But he paid the price messing with his body chemistry. Sad ending.
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FUCK. Really really bummed out about this. I've defended him on here and other forums when so many wished harm on him and when they got really angry when his name came up. It's not that he didn't do stupid things, he did. But from what I've seen especially on Leo's show he was a really good natured dude, very honest, you never got the impression that he was trying to lie to you or trying to trick you. He had a child-like quality to him like that. I can't fucking stand most "bodybuilding" characters.
First Pellius who was my favorite poster on here. Now my favorite character in this little niche activity of ours.
He was still doing reckless things, but now with narcotics. I understand that he was depressed and bummed out about his kidneys but he did or thought about doing reckless things for no good reason. Like wanting to IV GHB. There is no fucking reason to IV GHB. He wanted to IV steroids which should never be done with preparations designed to go into muscle. Things like that.
He didn't need to die to serve as a warning and example of reckless drug use.
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Just fucking with you Joe. :D
Oh I know…I’m just saying this kid was just asking for it
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All I’ve seen from Mpmd since I started watching is him suggesting the smallest dose needed to produce a response and criticizing mega dosing gear. He supposedly takes 100-120mg of test. I wouldn’t lump him in with a group of idiots
Yes, he seems pretty thoughtful about the whole thing (bodybuilding & gear, I mean)
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Oh I know…I’m just saying this kid was just asking for it
I think Wes was teasing about there already being a thread about this a few hours ago ;)
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Definitely fulfilled the "die trying" part of his tattoo
Hopefully this is a wake-up call to the brainless that followed his advices.
Wonder how many people did irreparable harm to themselves following his protocols
Astonishing that people listen to bro scientests like Leo, mpmd etc....this is the result. But hey they know more than Dr.s due to their practical experience.....
Have doctors done a lot of research on the compounds he was using?
Or should common sense have been the deciding factor?
Sad the dude has passed, but let's be honest if he died from heroin or alcohol abuse, or even if he was morbidly obese
, people would have said he was an addict and ultimately couldn't control himself. When you look at it through the lens of addiction, all the information and clinical studies in the world wouldn't have made a difference. He was addicted to the emotional high of being a bodybuilder.
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RX hustle posting a video to YouTube as the body was still warm in the house...savage
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Gofundme incoming.....
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Lincoln Shot
Titanic Sinks
Hindenberg Explodes
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Man walks on Moon.
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Probably his last internet thing.
Also Palumbo actually seems genuinely sad in that Rx clip.
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Probably his last internet thing.
Also Palumbo actually seems genuinely sad in that Rx clip.
Didn't watch so don't know what Palumbo said but he had cut Bostin off a while back. It was either him or Leo but Bostin didn't like ultimatums like that so he chose Leo.
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FUCK. Really really bummed out about this. I've defended him on here and other forums when so many wished harm on him and when they got really angry when his name came up. It's not that he didn't do stupid things, he did. But from what I've seen especially on Leo's show he was a really good natured dude, very honest, you never got the impression that he was trying to lie to you or trying to trick you. He had a child-like quality to him like that. I can't fucking stand most "bodybuilding" characters.
First Pellius who was my favorite poster on here. Now my favorite character in this little niche activity of ours.
He was still doing reckless things, but now with narcotics. I understand that he was depressed and bummed out about his kidneys but he did or thought about doing reckless things for no good reason. Like wanting to IV GHB. There is no fucking reason to IV GHB. He wanted to IV steroids which should never be done with preparations designed to go into muscle. Things like that.
He didn't need to die to serve as a warning and example of reckless drug use.
I think he was pretty honest towards the end and you are correct that he was the complete opposite of most BBer's when it comes to drugs and telling the truth about it.
But he was a walking chemistry experiment that went wrong.
I don't wish death on anyone but he knew that he was going to die and tried to play it off, like many people do these days.
My personal thoughts are that he did way too much of too many different things. The combo of large doses of AAS, GH, peptides and all the other shit he took off and on, led to his demise.
PIP
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Didn't watch so don't know what Palumbo said but he had cut Bostin off a while back. It was either him or Leo but Bostin didn't like ultimatums like that so he chose Leo.
He just seemed weepy through out, and talked about how tried to mentor Bostin a while back, and how he thought of him almost like a son. He also threw out a dig about Leo, etc.... I forget the exact wording, but it was something like "perhaps he was listening to the wrong people".
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Goodmorrow.
Very sad news. I liked Bostin. I liked candidness and love of bodybuilding. He was intrigued by bodybuilding chemicals and what they did to and for the body.
Talking with a friend that trained with Bostin, he had cut back his training and eating. He was trying his best to be a husband and father.
Eating wise he changed:
7am: Cottage cheese, peaches
12pm: Chicken/and a small portion of a carb
3pm: Apple/oranges
8pm: Light dinner, protein/small amount of carbs
He stayed hydrated all day drinking water...lots of it.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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First time logging on in like 5 years to thank this man for inspiring me to give up the insanity that is body building, he died for our sins, truly the christ of the steroid world R.I.P
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First time logging on in like 5 years to thank this man for inspiring me to give up the insanity that is body building, he died for our sins, truly the christ of the steroid world R.I.P
Nothing wrong with BB as a hobby, the extremists/competitors thats different. Making a living and staying healthy in competitive BB is a pipe dream for 99%.
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He just seemed weepy through out, and talked about how tried to mentor Bostin a while back, and how he thought of him almost like a son. He also threw out a dig about Leo, etc.... I forget the exact wording, but it was something like "perhaps he was listening to the wrong people".
Was Leo encouraging him to put off dialysis?
Bostin wasn't a petty/greedy guy. He could have started his own youtube channel, but instead he was happy bringing views to rx muscle and building up that leo guy's platform.
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Was Leo encouraging him to put off dialysis?
Leo is a snakey guy. Strikes me the same as Palumbo, pretends to show concern for others but could care less, phoney.
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Was he doing EPO? He recently had covid and I'm not sure but doesn't covid increase your risk for blood clots? Maybe combo of EPO, covid, gear caused the heart attack?
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Was Leo encouraging him to put off dialysis?
Absolutely the opposite - he kept reminding Loyd of the negative feedback loop, that the longer you postpone dialysis the more damage you sustained. Loyd just kept saying that he felt fine and the system was trying to fuck him by recommending that approach to treatment. I think he was self-medicating with vitamins, and herbs, and something else...hmmm... now what was it again...?
Was he doing EPO? He recently had covid and I'm not sure but doesn't covid increase your risk for blood clots? Maybe combo of EPO, covid, gear caused the heart attack?
...oh yeah, black market EPO that his Doctor specifically would not prescribe for him... ::)
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Was he doing EPO? He recently had covid and I'm not sure but doesn't covid increase your risk for blood clots? Maybe combo of EPO, covid, gear caused the heart attack?
Yes he was on EPO,it is actually needed in advanced kidney disease otherwise you will end up anemic.
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Leo was telling for a long ass time now to get on dialysis and he wouldn't listen... He should have been lifeboating on it till an organ became available, but he was being thick and going to the gym like a fool with non-functioning kidneys...
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Absolutely the opposite - he kept reminding Loyd of the negative feedback loop, that the longer you postpone dialysis the more damage you sustained. Loyd just kept saying that he felt fine and the system was trying to fuck him by recommending that approach to treatment. I think he was self-medicating with vitamins, and herbs, and something else...hmmm... now what was it again...?
...oh yeah, black market EPO that his Doctor specifically would not prescribe for him... ::)
Wasn't he self-prescribing beta blockers for awhile because his heart rate was being incredibly unpredictable?
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Leo is a snakey guy. Strikes me the same as Palumbo, pretends to show concern for others but could care less, phoney.
leo's a known woman beater, with protective orders against him as well, muzz
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leo's a known woman beater, with protective orders against him as well, muzz
Another hanky! Not too surprised.
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Wasn't he self-prescribing beta blockers for awhile because his heart rate was being incredibly unpredictable?
Yes, well remembered. Which has reminded me I think he'd also worked his way through the various types of BP meds by prescribing those to himself...
Aaaand he is was a big fan of DNP - but it's OK, he wasn't being irresponsible - the version he used was organic free-range grass-fed Dinitrophenol...
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The guy himself did not have any respect for his own health? Yet alone for his life.
I have no empathy for him, or for his wife.
Sucks for the kid tho... he didn't chose his parents
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The kid reminded me of Dan Duchaine. His bloodwork was going to shit but he was still in denial, and pressing hard on the gas. RIP.
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Oh I know…I’m just saying this kid was just asking for it
Most definitely.
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Man walks on Moon.
LOL ;D
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I’ve never heard Leo give any terrible advice myself and I remember him pleading with him to go on a Dialysis.
With that said he was wrong to react the way he did when Palumbo told him Bostin was going to die.
Dave was speaking the truth and Leo probably knew it was true.
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BOSTIN, RIP!
I've communicated with Bostin a few times years ago prior to hisContra Costa win(?) but never met him personally, but I did meet his dad (Jon?) prior to Bostin's arrival on this planet who was a darn fine competitive bodybuilder in his own rights.
I think I may have posted his contest photo on this board years ago so if anyone can
find it .......
My condolences to his family and friends......
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Sad!! Way too young
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With that said he was wrong to react the way he did when Palumbo told him Bostin was going to die.
Dave was speaking the truth and Leo probably knew it was true.
What are you referring to? What did Palumbo say exactly and how did Leo react?
I remember when Bostin's kidneys went to shit Palumbo said he thought his kidneys were fine, it was just a temporary aberration in his bloodwork. I remember thinking that Palumbo appeared clueless. I remember someone on getbig, forget who, said it was just Bostin looking for attention, nothing wrong with him and I said I was sure it was for real.
This sucks.
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I think that might depend on a person's view on this - do you consider IV Nalbuphine (Nubain) a "rec" drug? (Genuine question)
Because I watched a video where he was completely open about him having done exactly that before the interview started
Agree
I remember that video, pretty sure it started discussion on here as it being the end for him.
He was injecting Nubian like it wasn’t a thing.
I really liked the guy because he was so honest but I always felt he was blasé about the dangers. Even when given warning signs he ignored it.
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I think when Bostin told him the injuries to those animals' kidneys from that peptide were acute and mostly reversed Dave jumped to that conclusion given he wasn't bloated and his eyes were white which isn't really a technical way of going about it.. As far as Leo and Dave I think Leo contacted Palumbo about both of them convincing him to go on dialysis or whatever and Dave basically told him Bostin was going to die. I am guessing he realized he wouldn't listen to sense or didn't and he ended up being right in the end.
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the study that started the human interest in the peptide: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3666164/
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As far as the Rx video it would ring less hollow if there weren't a pyramid of products carefully placed in the foreground coupled with the knowledge based on what Bostin said on Leo's channel that an order he placed for kidney support supps from Dave's site was cancelled awhile back.
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the study that started the human interest in the peptide: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3666164/
Idk how anyone can read that toxicology section and think shooting any of that, let alone multiple bottles was a good idea...
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It's a horrible situation. Hopefully, he had the brain power to get himself some sort of life insurance..
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It's a horrible situation. Hopefully, he had the brain power to get himself some sort of life insurance..
a life insurance company wouldnt touch him with a ten foot pole
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A guaranteed issue policy could have been done maybe...
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It's a horrible situation. Hopefully, he had the brain power to get himself some sort of life insurance..
A true bodybuilder believes he’ll live forever and doesn’t need life insurance
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He was more like a ped addict that dabbled in bodybuilding
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Terribly small penis. PIP.
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Leo is a fraud his laugh is fake claims to be a genius but is not his solution to any problem is drugs the guy is a total fraud and a closet pole smoker
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He didn't get kidney failure from anabolic he was taking a peptide Adipotide that causes acute kidney failure in primates and his creatinine levels went from 2-6 in like a month. He was also abusing recreational drugs I have seen him admit to oral opiate usage in his videos guess what percocets cause kidney damage. And he was using DNP which also causes kidney damage. He was also using synthol another non anabolic compound known to cause kidney damage. So again this wasn't from steroids
Percocets cause liver damage, not kidney damage.
And that's solely the result of the Tylenol content. The opiate is non-toxic to organs.
Why on EARTH they have a formula that contains Tylenol, I don't know.
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Leo is a fraud his laugh is fake claims to be a genius but is not his solution to any problem is drugs the guy is a total fraud and a closet pole smoker
His accent and laugh when he’s overexcited are incredibly annoying.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=677492.0;attach=1352591;image)
What's that EPO joke? Is it about sexual stamina?
He makes it sound like the American healthcare system sucks, but I just want to point out, it is really not much better in Canada. The pandemic proved that much and more.
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Incredible posts 11 seconds apart! :o
Even less, if you consider that delay caused by that notification message stating another post has been posted before the second one got in.
Getbig is excellent for breaking news.
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Incredible posts 11 seconds apart! :o
Even less, if you consider that delay caused by that notification message stating another post has been posted before the second one got in.
Getbig is excellent for breaking news.
A lot of us have the same feeds and Knterests.
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meat eating long life my nikka
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meat eating long life my nikka
Even a lifestyle of moving lawns and eating the grass trimmings wouldn't have offset that level of drug abuse
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PIP
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What a shock.
Not.
Listen, I’d like to offer pleasantries, but this fool didn’t give a rat’s ass about his life, so now I barely can give a shit about his death.
Possibly one of bodybuilding’s all-time greatest losers.
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Exactly how is this sad?....dude was a on a slow motion suicide for a long time.
Why do most here turn to little disney woke fairies as soon as someone dies? Everyone dies. fuck off
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Even a lifestyle of moving lawns and eating the grass trimmings wouldn't have offset that level of drug abuse
i like that
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First time logging on in like 5 years to thank this man for inspiring me to give up the insanity that is body building, he died for our sins, truly the christ of the steroid world R.I.P
OMG! Its Weedlejuice! How are you?
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Palumbo told Leo in private and then Leo created a video about it bad mouthing Dave that makes him look clueless and maybe even greedy now.
Maybe it was all an act for all I know, but it didn’t seem like that. It seemed like there was a real falling out and maybe even Leo thought he was sticking up for his friend in a way.
Overall I think Bostin and Leo were friends until the end, but I really don’t stay up to date with this stuff.
There’s a video claiming this is Boston’s last video.
He actually looks healthier here than the older videos I’ve seen.
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The way people referred to him here as a caution, I thought he was already died. PIP.
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The way people referred to him here as a caution, I thought he was already died. PIP.
I actually wonder if the reason we haven't heard from Bostin since being diagnosed with these advanced kidney problems was because he didn't want to go on dialysis, to prove something. In hindsight, using whatever home remedies he did obviously didn't work.
It's also funny you posted here.
Because I was about to ask if anyone knows whether or not Bostin Never1AShow?
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Overall the feeling I get from him was that of a wounded soul before ever attaining any attention.
This lead to him being a drug addict; if not always than eventually.
In this video from 2 months ago he says he has begun shooting Oxy’s IV, sometimes before he trains.
It’s possible it contributed to the event that killed him.
17 years ago I tried OxyContin after trying all sorts of pain pills here and there, but I was never a fan of the dopey feeling.
It wasn’t until I tried Oxy (orally) I realized it is just synthetic heroin.
Was an awful feeling like you see in a movie.
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I actually wonder if the reason we haven't heard from Bostin since being diagnosed with these advanced kidney problems was because he didn't want to go on dialysis, to prove something. In hindsight, using whatever home remedies he did obviously didn't work.
It's also funny you posted here.
Because I was about to ask if anyone knows whether or not Bostin Never1AShow?
I don't know abything about him really, but a quick search says he won the NPC Contra Costa and the NPC California State Bodybuilding, Figure & Bikini Championship. So props for that.
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I don't know abything about him really, but a quick search says he won the NPC Contra Costa and the NPC California State Bodybuilding, Figure & Bikini Championship. So props for that.
Not bad...Bostin's father Jon Lloyd had better genetics though [IMO]:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=569449.0;attach=611720;image)
You'd think Bostin would have known he didn't need to overdo the juice to look good...I mean, how much gear could his dad have been doing in the 1980s?
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What a fucking moron..... To die for looking like shit.
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Leo was telling for a long ass time now to get on dialysis and he wouldn't listen... He should have been lifeboating on it till an organ became available, but he was being thick and going to the gym like a fool with non-functioning kidneys...
I used to listen to Leo’s podcast from time to time, Loyd was often a guest and always quite likable.
But, it was clear for a long time that he had very serious kidney issues. I thought to myself, what a jerk. He cares more about how he looks than for his wife and child. I feel sad for them, their lives will never be the same, and now his son will grow up without a dad.
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Anyone called dibs on his missus yet?
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Palumbo is such a hypocrite and sociopath :-X
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Damn - Dead at 29 !! Not Good at all.
Still realistically with his awful attitude to PED's & likely other rec drugs
it isn't very surprising is it.
Saying that I'd not heard about him in a while / ignored anything he'd
got to say.
He choose his path & unfortunately for him it wasn't a very long one.
RIP
And may he be able to do all the Drugs & more than he'll ever need now.
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Palumbo is such a hypocrite and sociopath :-X
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2CfBsQZznuA/mqdefault.jpg)
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Palumbo told Leo in private and then Leo created a video about it bad mouthing Dave that makes him look clueless and maybe even greedy now.
Maybe it was all an act for all I know, but it didn’t seem like that. It seemed like there was a real falling out and maybe even Leo thought he was sticking up for his friend in a way.
Overall I think Bostin and Leo were friends until the end, but I really don’t stay up to date with this stuff.
There’s a video claiming this is Boston’s last video.
He actually looks healthier here than the older videos I’ve seen.
I'm still not sure on what you mean, what Palumbo told Leo in private. Anyway, what led to a falling out between the two was Palumbo confronted Leo live on his show about Leo badmouthing Ameen Alai, who is a friend of Palumbo's. Palumbo thought Leo should apologise for talking about Ameen's heroin addiction and his scamming ways. Palumbo had called Leo the new Duchaine but after that their relationship was over. Palumbo was so pissed he demanded Bostin stop associating with Leo or he wasn't welcome on Palumbo's show. Palumbo was Bostin's coach in the early days and Bostin really liked Palumbo.
Leo has his positive traits, sometimes he's too over the top but at other times he talks about interesting things. He appears to have various psych issues and recently "disappeared" due to him "feeling bad." Some kind of narcissistic disorder it appears, saying he never lies. Just saying that is ridiculous on Leo's part imo. Recently he had some ridiculous exchange with Milos and imo it was absolutely pathetic. Leo had said Nasser wasn't Milos' friend as Milos now claims. How in the fuck do you know how their relationship was, you never even met either guy lol? How in the fuck does a guy insert himself in 2 other guys relationship? Shameful, I couldn't even watch more than 30 seconds of his video badmouthing Milos. :D
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palumbo, almost crying says "i feel like a parent who lost a child"
uhmmmm
no, no you dont, its nothing like that ::)
these attention whores who do vid's for clicks/money kill me ::)
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I agree it is absolutely from his abuse of drugs and chemicals but not anabolics. Anabolics are rather mild.
bhanks, stop defending "anabolics" they are not mild when used in large amounts for a long period of time.
they are horrible on the heart, cause atherosclerosis, etc
stop trying to justify your own addictions
they had a hand in it
is everything combined
this kid wasnt using "smart/trt doses"
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Sad story I feel bad for his family. Lesson here is to avoid research chemicals, peptides, synthol, and fat burning pesticides. These products are not approved for human usage and never have been for a reason.
and heavy anabolic steroid use
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sounds like a peptide any person with a lick of sanity would stay away from:
In monkeys necropsied 24 hours after the final dose of adipotide, lesions associated with the kidney were observed and were found to be dose-dependent; such lesions were not present in the control group (Fig. 7A). The observed lesions were scored minimal to mild in the low-dose group, minimal to mild in most of the middle-dose monkeys, and minimal to moderate in the high-dose group. The primary lesions were classified as degenerative/necrotic (single-cell necrosis) and reactive/regenerative (Fig. 7B).
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meadows is also dead, but he was spot on
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meadows is also dead, but he was spot on
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=677492.0;attach=1352673;image)
Brutal and true
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Savage owning by Zombie-John Meadows
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Is Bostin Lloyd still dead?
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Just to clarify Leo made a video trying to blow up Dave’s spot for telling him that in private.
I thought I was pretty clear in my post already, but I’ll say it again.
In the end it, if anything, it backfired on him because Dave was just being real with him and it played out quickly.
I’m not saying Bostin and DA lived identical lives because they didn’t, but there are quite a bit of parallels with the two. Dave being pretty close with both I wonder if he just saw it playing out all over again.
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Savage owning by Zombie-John Meadows
:D
That was pretty dark of John being a family man and all
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Definitely fulfilled the "die trying" part of his tattoo
Hopefully this is a wake-up call to the brainless that followed his advices.
Wonder how many people did irreparable harm to themselves following his protocols
Astonishing that people listen to bro scientests like Leo, mpmd etc....this is the result. But hey they know more than Dr.s due to their practical experience.....
You couldn't be more wrong about Derek (MPMD).
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Two seconds after he passed away there were 57 videos on Youtube about it. :-\
It's a strange world we live in.
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Bostin lived and died from his own bro-science.
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Holy Shit.. a gfr of 6!!!! Severe kidney failure is <30, end stage is <15… whatever took his kidneys out did it thoroughly — they were smoked!!! :o
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Holy Shit.. a gfr of 6!!!! Severe kidney failure is <30, end stage is <15… whatever took his kidneys out did it thoroughly — they were smoked!!! :o
8)
(https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/128173316_668217847152241_8288284314585573729_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=jJ_UWDG3WEIAX-yNtsn&_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.xx&oh=00_AT_BoLOjvhzHXyP2ScX25VzW3UIUcGli1w-MXNn7be3JCQ&oe=623F453E)
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Is Bostin Lloyd still dead?
Give it another two days and we will see if he makes it back. ;)
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So how bad was his liver? Since the liver is the filter for the body right?....
Do we know if he did take rec drugs as well as the pharmacy?
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Holy Shit.. a gfr of 6!!!! Severe kidney failure is <30, end stage is <15… whatever took his kidneys out did it thoroughly — they were smoked!!! :o
Didn’t he inject some peptide into his kidney area? Whatever it takes!
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Anyone called dibs on his missus yet?
No, but since 24 hours have passed I'm now comfortable making the comment that I deleted yesterday:
"Look on the bright side for GetBiggers - it won't be long before Ariella has to launch a XXX-rated OnlyFans to be able to feed the kid"
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Damn - Dead at 29 !! Not Good at all.
Still realistically with his awful attitude to PED's & likely other rec drugs
it isn't very surprising is it.
Saying that I'd not heard about him in a while / ignored anything he'd
got to say.
He choose his path & unfortunately for him it wasn't a very long one.
RIP
And may he be able to do all the Drugs & more than he'll ever need now.
And as the original peace & love hippy stoner, everyone knows Jeebers has the best shit...
sounds like a peptide any person with a lick of sanity would stay away from:
Absolutely - and I'm not going back to check this so shoot me if I'm wrong, but I'm almost certain that Bostin said he was on 5 times whatever the dose/kg bodyweight the monkeys were on - so it's not as if a poor outcome was a risk outlier FFS
meadows is also dead, but he was spot on
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=677492.0;attach=1352673;image)
Deadpool winner predicts deadpool winner
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Savage owning by Zombie-John Meadows
So funny I legit LOL'ed and covered my face with both hands in shame - then peeped through my fingers and roared with laughter again! ;D
(https://media.giphy.com/media/W0QTRxfRkMQMM/giphy.gif)
Tears of joy from a tragedy - it's a beautiful thing....
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and heavy anabolic steroid use
Anabolic were developed for humans they have been tested and approved as prescribed medications to treat a variety of ailments. People have been taken large amounts of anabolics non stop for decades the last 50 plus years without ill effect. This was absolutely not from anabolics. This was from recreational drugs, pesticides(dnp), Research peptides(aditope or whatever it was), diuretics and synthol. That shit killed his liver not Test and Deca even at 6g a week.
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Anabolic were developed for humans they have been tested and approved as prescribed medications to treat a variety of ailments. People have been taken large amounts of anabolics non stop for decades the last 50 plus years without ill effect. This was absolutely not from anabolics. This was from recreational drugs, pesticides(dnp), Research peptides(aditope or whatever it was), and synthol. That shit killed his liver not Test and Deca even at 6g a week.
Actually, the primary reason for his demise is..."Congenital Stoopidity".
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bhanks, stop defending "anabolics" they are not mild when used in large amounts for a long period of time.
they are horrible on the heart, cause atherosclerosis, etc
stop trying to justify your own addictions
they had a hand in it
is everything combined
this kid wasnt using "smart/trt doses"
He didn't use large amounts for a long period of time. He was only 29 years old. I know guys who have been using since the 90s and are perfectly healthy. Bostin was born in 90s he wasn't really a long-time user. Drinking alcohol which most of the adult population does is far worse on your organs.
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So how bad was his liver? Since the liver is the filter for the body right?....
Do we know if he did take rec drugs as well as the pharmacy?
He did experiment with recs but I think he started only recently after his kidneys were shot. If what he said was true he wasn't even close to having been addicted to anything.
The liver is much less of a concern for PED users than bodybuilders thought in the past. I've heard of a case or two of jaundice and a few cases of cysts in the liver. But considering how many drugs are used today these sides are rare. The liver can also regenerate as opposed to the kidneys.
The major concern is the heart and kidneys
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He did experiment with recs but I think he started only recently after his kidneys were shot. If what he said was true he wasn't even close to having been addicted to anything.
The liver is much less of a concern for PED users than bodybuilders thought in the past. I've heard of a case or two of jaundice and a few cases of cysts in the liver. But considering how many drugs are used today these sides are rare. The liver can also regenerate as opposed to the kidneys.
The major concern is the heart and kidneys
Addicted or not taking Rec drugs definitely can increase your chances of having a fatal heart attack. He admitted was banging oxy IV how do we know he didnt get some fentanyl or cocaine? Once you are IV injecting crushed Oxy you are a full fledged junkie absolutely, he could have had a bad reaction to Rec drugs.
Its like blaming weed for someones overdose death when they are taking fentanyl fucking nonsense just because he was famous for taking anabolics doesn't mean they had anything to do with his death. He was also taking everything under the sun which has nothing to do with anabolic or bodybuilding. We know people die from that other shit all the time yet just assume it was the anabolic despite people using anabolic safely for decades horrible logic
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Anabolic were developed for humans they have been tested and approved as prescribed medications to treat a variety of ailments. People have been taken large amounts of anabolics non stop for decades the last 50 plus years without ill effect. This was absolutely not from anabolics. This was from recreational drugs, pesticides(dnp), Research peptides(aditope or whatever it was), diuretics and synthol. That shit killed his liver not Test and Deca even at 6g a week.
As one guru says, there are no bad drugs. It depends on the situation and dosage. Just because something is a "pesticide" doesn't mean it's necessarily always bad. DNP was taken off the market for one reason only: eye cataracts. Theoretically DNP could sometimes be used to fix certain health issues.
Synthol shouldn't be toxic in any way. It's medium chain triglyceride which is basically harmless. If it were toxic you would never eat coconut oil or whatever with MCT's. Synthol is bad for your muscle tissue though but it's not going to make your kidneys fail.
Anabolics can be, and are, directly kidney toxic. It's all in the dosage, duration and also individual susceptibility. I don't know how much you know about Bostin but he used 13 GRAMS of gear a week as a teen! It's unknown if his kidneys failed from the adipotide. Who knows if it even was the correct compound. Some of these lyophilized products have been completely bunk or the wrong compound. 13 grams of steroids IMO could fuck you up quickly
Not all recs are bad for your health. You smoke weed. Bostin said something about doing acid recently. Not really physically dangerous. GHB isn't very toxic, the danger is in the addiction. Occasional use, harmless. Opiates as far as I know aren't really toxic, though I might be somewhat mistaken here. But occasional use isn't organ toxic really. Tylenol is way way more toxic.
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Here we go...
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fund-a-funeral-for-bostin-loyd?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet
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Here we go...
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fund-a-funeral-for-bostin-loyd?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet
I just donated 3ccs
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He did experiment with recs but I think he started only recently after his kidneys were shot. If what he said was true he wasn't even close to having been addicted to anything.
The liver is much less of a concern for PED users than bodybuilders thought in the past. I've heard of a case or two of jaundice and a few cases of cysts in the liver. But considering how many drugs are used today these sides are rare. The liver can also regenerate as opposed to the kidneys.
The major concern is the heart and kidneys
It has always been my understanding that oral 17-a are what can cause kidney issues. There is really no need to use these toxic compounds. Again though his kidney issues are documented to coincide with his usage of anon human approved fat killing peptide that has been shown to fry monkey kidneys and was never tested on humans for that very reason.
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Addicted or not taking Rec drugs definitely can increase your chances of having a fatal heart attack. He admitted was banging oxy IV how do we know he didnt get some fentanyl or cocaine? Once you are IV injecting crushed Oxy you are a full fledged junkie absolutely, he could have had a bad reaction to Rec drugs.
Yes acutely pain killers could will kill you if ODing. Stimulants of course. I meant that they probably aren't organ toxic.
Someone in this thread said he might have gone hyperkalemic due to the kidneys, causing a heart attack.
Come on, roids aren't completely innocuous even in the short term if you take insane dosages. Say you took 20 Anadrol a day, like Leo's friend powerlifter Scott Mendelson supposedly did. If that guy wrecked his liver or kudneys it wouldn't be a surprise. Though I suspect the 20 Anadrol was just a day or two before meets.
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I just watched the last podcast he did, he recently Started iv injection of Iron and he said he was researching it and it said in some literature that it may cause accute kidney failure, this may be the actual cause, he said he's anemic and felt extremely weak and oral iron tablets do not absorb much and causes stomach problems.
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As one guru says, there are no bad drugs. It depends on the situation and dosage. Just because something is a "pesticide" doesn't mean it's necessarily always bad. DNP was taken off the market for one reason only: eye cataracts. Theoretically DNP could sometimes be used to fix certain health issues.
Synthol shouldn't be toxic in any way. It's medium chain triglyceride which is basically harmless. If it were toxic you would never eat coconut oil or whatever with MCT's. Synthol is bad for your muscle tissue though but it's not going to make your kidneys fail.
Anabolics can be, and are, directly kidney toxic. It's all in the dosage, duration and also individual susceptibility. I don't know how much you know about Bostin but he used 13 GRAMS of gear a week as a teen! It's unknown if his kidneys failed from the adipotide. Who knows if it even was the correct compound. Some of these lyophilized products have been completely bunk or the wrong compound. 13 grams of steroids IMO could fuck you up quickly
Not all recs are bad for your health. You smoke weed. Bostin said something about doing acid recently. Not really physically dangerous. GHB isn't very toxic, the danger is in the addiction. Occasional use, harmless. Opiates as far as I know aren't really toxic, though I might be somewhat mistaken here. But occasional use isn't organ toxic really. Tylenol is way way more toxic.
I do not smoke weed I use a legal OTC cannabis based product. 3cc a day at 200mg would be 4200 a week so I really don't think 13 is realistic unless you are counting orals. There is an upper limit to how much you can inject into a muscle. I have heard of guys doing 2 shots a day that would get them up to around 8g but 13 no way and for how long can you keep that up before you would be one giant abcess. He was only 29 years old he started as a teenager so what maybe 10 years of anabolics? That simple wouldnt give someone stage 5 kidney failure. Also he looked soft in the last photo I saw of him he wasn't juicing that much. He certainly didnt look like a guy using the toxic hardening compounds like Tren or Halo he looked tubby. Maybe the guy had bad genetics but he didn't die from test and deca I dont care how much he took
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It has always been my understanding that oral 17-a are what can cause kidney issues. There is really no need to use these toxic compounds.
It's not necessarily just that alteration. All androgens are directly kidney toxic to a degree. Many people feel their kidney issues coincided with their large trenbolone intake. If tren is uniquely kidney toxic I don't know but there might be something to it. John Meadows, though not a scientist or doctor, warned bodybuilders that he suspected we would be seeing a lot of kidney failures in the future due to the abusive tren dosages. I spoke to a published anabolic steroid researcher and endocrinologist who told me, "ooh that steroid is dangerous." As opposed to something like Anavar which he said was mild and side effect free.
I do not smoke weed I use a legal OTC cannabis based product. 3cc a day at 200mg would be 4200 a week so I really don't think 13 is realistic unless you are counting orals. There is an upper limit to how much you can inject into a muscle. I have heard of guys doing 2 shots a day that would get them up to around 8g but 13 no way and for how long can you keep that up before you would be one giant abcess. He was only 29 years old he started as a teenager so what maybe 10 years of anabolics? That simple wouldnt give someone stage 5 kidney failure. Also he looked soft in the last photo I saw of him he wasn't juicing that much. He certainly didnt look like a guy using the toxic hardening compounds like Tren or Halo he looked tubby. Maybe the guy had bad genetics but he didn't die from test and deca I dont care how much he took
He said he had used tren several years straight at high dosages. Said it was the only steroid he even felt at all. Bostin got in very good condition once or twice, like the time he claimed to have done 13 grams on prep.
I know a guy who did 10 grams routinely. I saw him bang 5 5cc syringes of juice in one injection session GH up to 45 units a day (one whole Nordi Simplex vial). He is a good as dead now, could go any second.
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Anabolic were developed for humans they have been tested and approved as prescribed medications to treat a variety of ailments. People have been taken large amounts of anabolics non stop for decades the last 50 plus years without ill effect. This was absolutely not from anabolics. This was from recreational drugs, pesticides(dnp), Research peptides(aditope or whatever it was), diuretics and synthol. That shit killed his liver not Test and Deca even at 6g a week.
Not to cause an argument for no reason dude, but just a couple of things there
1 - Until the cause of death/autopsy/toxicology report, I can't see how you can make such an exclusionary statement - a touch of wishful thinking? For example, McCarver dropped from a heart attack, and the consensus seemed it was mega-doses that were the root cause of most of the multiple factors contributing the the fatal event - do you not think that plausible here?
2 - Although his liver numbers were out of range, he was in Stage 5 kidney failure rather than liver failure. I'm no expert on either, but I imagine the end-stage of both involves at least a short stay in hospital/palliative care rather than dropping dead where you stand. So given that and his confession to occasional IV opioid use, I think we can be reasonably sure that he died of either a heart attack or an overdose
What do you think?
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Here we go...
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fund-a-funeral-for-bostin-loyd?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet
How did Singerman arrange this fiddle for the chilluns from jail..?
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This is such a somber friend for some reason.
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He is not in any kind of shape here at all doesn't look like a guy blasting peds and training hard to me looks like a guy recreationally partying
A fat killing peptide killed his kidneys people who actually train hard don't need fatburners. He lost his way was using opiates and got fat then thought he could get back in shape with fat burners instead of hard training. If he had been training properly he would be in shape and alive today.
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So given that and his confession to occasional IV opioid use, I think we can be reasonably sure that he died of either a heart attack or an overdose
What do you think?
Derek Anthony died from a heart attack during a dialysis session IIRC. Like I said earlier, what someone in this thread said about hyperkalemia could very well be a cause of heart attack. But obviously I don't know.
He is not in any kind of shape here at all doesn't look like a guy blasting peds and training hard to me looks like a guy recreationally partying
Bro, Bostin was in stage 5 kidney failure, how would you expect him to look? He was only doing a shot of juice here and there haphazardly, not even training for months. You're supposed to feel like death with massive toxin build-up.
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Anyone called dibs on his missus yet?
I'll gladly bone her provided someone else baby sits the kid and she does not have an enlarged penoris.
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He is not in any kind of shape here at all doesn't look like a guy blasting peds and training hard to me looks like a guy recreationally partying
Pic is from Nov 2020, he was already admittedly very sick. He looked good there all things considered.
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Derek Anthony died from a heart attack during a dialysis session IIRC. Like I said earlier, what someone in this thread said about hyperkalemia could very well be a cause of heart attack. But obviously I don't know.
Bro, Bostin was in stage 5 kidney failure, how would you expect him to look? He was only doing a shot of juice here and there haphazardly, not even training for months. You're supposed to feel like death with massive toxin build-up.
Don Long
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Pic is from Nov 2020, he was already admittedly very sick. He looked good there all things considered.
He looks fucking horrific there like a beer drinking redneck no sign he ever worked out a day in his life and at 28 years old.
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He looks fucking horrific there like a beer drinking redneck no sign he ever worked out a day in his life and at 28 years old.
Dont bring Calvinh into this.
This is a list he did make.....
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Here we go...
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fund-a-funeral-for-bostin-loyd?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet
WTF.....
wasn't he boasting about 50k a month as a young 20 something.!!
I just donated Fuck All.
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I'll gladly bone her provided someone else baby sits the kid and she does not have an enlarged penoris.
Too late bud
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Here we go...
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fund-a-funeral-for-bostin-loyd?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet
He claimed to he earning 50k a month....but wife needs money for the funeral.
Someone is not being truthful...but who
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He looks fucking horrific there like a beer drinking redneck no sign he ever worked out a day in his life and at 28 years old.
He looks fine there. You can see he has some arms, shoulders and the rest of it. Bad angle on the photograph. Not bad for a guy who was very sick and dying. Your year round condition is much better in comparion to most bodybuilders,
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Anabolic were developed for humans they have been tested and approved as prescribed medications to treat a variety of ailments. People have been taken large amounts of anabolics non stop for decades the last 50 plus years without ill effect. This was absolutely not from anabolics. This was from recreational drugs, pesticides(dnp), Research peptides(aditope or whatever it was), diuretics and synthol. That shit killed his liver not Test and Deca even at 6g a week.
whatever helps you sleep at night
i know they are safe when used properly
like any drug, when abused, there are negative side-effects
heart related
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WTF.....
wasn't he boasting about 50k a month as a young 20 something.!!
I just donated Fuck All.
They should donate his Frankenstein body to science. God knows what they would find.
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Dante "Dogg Crap" Trudel let it slip that John Meadows was making low to mid 300,000's a year, and he still had a huge gofundme. I doubt Bostin was still making 50g's a month, but he was probably doing ok.
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They should donate his Frankenstein body to science. God knows what they would find.
Ha ha - Yes, I was about to write the exact same.
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He is not in any kind of shape here at all doesn't look like a guy blasting peds and training hard to me looks like a guy recreationally partying
A fat killing peptide killed his kidneys people who actually train hard don't need fatburners. He lost his way was using opiates and got fat then thought he could get back in shape with fat burners instead of hard training. If he had been training properly he would be in shape and alive today.
Kid’s like, Mom’s got a nice ass.
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WTF.....
wasn't he boasting about 50k a month as a young 20 something.!!
I just donated Fuck All.
Exactly, what the fuck.
People do whatever they want with their money but a go fund me for this is disgusting
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So much yapping about it-was-this—NO-it-was-that.
It was EVERYTHING.
Since forever, those of us at least semi-sane have been warning/saying this fool’s time is short.
And his wife is a dim bulb to marry and then procreate with a goober so obviously mentally ill and without one percent of caring for his family.
That kid now is without a father. And it is bad enough his father is meatball Loyd to begin with.
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GOFUCKMEFUND
Nobody would give my wife a dollar if I died.
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GOFUCKMEFUND
Nobody would give my wife a dollar if I died.
GoFuckMe is a commie organization.
Oh, and FUCK TRUDEAU.
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GoFuckMe is a commie organization.
Oh, and FUCK TRUDEAU.
........and FUCK BIDEN.
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So much yapping about it-was-this—NO-it-was-that.
It was EVERYTHING.
Since forever, those of us at least semi-sane have been warning/saying this fool’s time is short.
And his wife is a dim bulb to marry and then procreate with a goober so obviously mentally ill and without one percent of caring for his family.
That kid now is without a father. And it is bad enough his father is meatball Loyd to begin with.
so epic of a post ^^^
:)
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He claimed to he earning 50k a month....but wife needs money for the funeral.
Someone is not being truthful...but who
When you're pumping chemicals for 52k a month in your butt then earning 50k a month is not that much lol
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Kid’s like, Mom’s got a nice ass.
Would hit
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How to protect your kidneys?
Do the exact opposite of what this kid did.
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But all BS aside - the biggest mass monster freaks from the early 2000s like Ruhl, Ronnie, Jay are all alive and apparently perfectly healthy in their mid 50s, and today's guys drop like flies in their late 20s and 30s. What's the difference? No one can tell me that guys like Ruhl, Kallbach or Fux were abusing much less back then than a Bostin Loyd.... :D
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Google says the average funeral cost is between 7 and 12,000.
His go fund me page is asking for 25k ??? ???
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Google says the average funeral cost is between 7 and 12,000.
His go fund me page is asking for 25k ??? ???
They wanna throw some Peptides in there for his trip on the other side...
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But all BS aside - the biggest mass monster freaks from the early 2000s like Ruhl, Ronnie, Jay are all alive and apparently perfectly healthy in their mid 50s, and today's guys drop like flies in their late 20s and 30s. What's the difference? No one can tell me that guys like Ruhl, Kallbach or Fux were abusing much less back then than a Bostin Loyd.... :D
Genetics and a superior response to the shit they took.
Bostin could never have gotten anywhere near as big as any of the above mentioned guys.
What was his biggest contest win/placing.....does anyone know?
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A test no one talks about, or maybe knows about to check kidney health is a microalbumin urine test. This tests for the albumin protein in urine. Your kidneys nephrons should filter that particle out so if it shows up on that panel you are leaking it in your urine and have damaged nephrons. If left unchecked, you will continue to leak it and your kidneys will scar over time and then it’s a matter of time before you are in the various stages of CKD.
https://www.uofmhealth.org/health-library/tu6440
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Don Long
Don was on dialysis though and juicing like crazy. Bostin actually talked about Don, Bostin wasn't done with bb, Don gave him hope.
Bostin was friends with Beau Baisden who got a transplant from his gf who said, "the kidney is yours to do with what you wish to." Bostin said Beau was on 2 grams of test as a baseline, a few grams of other gear on top.
Never give up, that's kind of your motto from what I've seen right ;D
Listen to this. A while back Bostin said his mom found out she was stage 3. She eats 600 grams (I think that's what he said) of protein a day from chicken and nothing much else. That's crazy.
But all BS aside - the biggest mass monster freaks from the early 2000s like Ruhl, Ronnie, Jay are all alive and apparently perfectly healthy in their mid 50s, and today's guys drop like flies in their late 20s and 30s. What's the difference? No one can tell me that guys like Ruhl, Kallbach or Fux were abusing much less back then than a Bostin Loyd.... :D
These guys aren't necessarily "perfectly healthy." Ruhl said his heart is the size of elephants heart. Was it you who said that? Probably the kidneys aren't completely fine either - just a hunch.
I think all those guys have various health issues stemming from bb.
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But all BS aside - the biggest mass monster freaks from the early 2000s like Ruhl, Ronnie, Jay are all alive and apparently perfectly healthy in their mid 50s, and today's guys drop like flies in their late 20s and 30s. What's the difference? No one can tell me that guys like Ruhl, Kallbach or Fux were abusing much less back then than a Bostin Loyd.... :D
You’ve got a really good point , who was the first death from that era? Nasser at 47, I believe. Will be interesting to see how they age.
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Don was on dialysis though and juicing like crazy. Bostin actually talked about Don, Bostin wasn't done with bb, Don gave him hope.
Bostin was friends with Beau Baisden who got a transplant from his gf who said, "the kidney is yours to do with what you wish to." Bostin said Beau was on 2 grams of test as a baseline, a few grams of other gear on top.
Never give up, that's kind of your motto from what I've seen right ;D
Listen to this. A while back Bostin said his mom found out she was stage 3. She eats 600 grams (I think that's what he said) of protein a day from chicken and nothing much else. That's crazy.
That’s like a chronic smoker getting a 2nd chance after being cured of lung cancer, only to resume cigarette activities immediately afterwards
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That’s like a chronic smoker getting a 2nd chance after being cured of lung cancer, only to resume cigarette activities immediately afterwards
The transplant teams have a vested interest in patient outcomes as Medicare payments are based in large part on how well patients do post transplant—hence their strict selection/exclusion process. Wonder how he managed to slip through
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You’ve got a really good point , who was the first death from that era? Nasser at 47, I believe. Will be interesting to see how they age.
It seems like the guys from Arnold's era can make it to their 70s pretty commonly, the guys from the 90s still to their 50s and 60s, and today's guys can drop dead literally anytime lol
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Google says the average funeral cost is between 7 and 12,000.
His go fund me page is asking for 25k ??? ???
His wife is a bartender and I doubt he's made much money lately, so they likely asked for that amount to keep them afloat for awhile.
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Google says the average funeral cost is between 7 and 12,000.
His go fund me page is asking for 25k ??? ???
Probably ran up a tab with his dealer and gotta pay up...
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Probably ran up a tab with his dealer and gotta pay up...
Stupid statement"Dumb people think Trump is smart". Never thought he was smart just competent, unlike Dementia Joe. One thing Dementia Joe has gotten right, NOTHING, and you can't say different. LIBTURD!
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His wife is a bartender and I doubt he's made much money lately, so they likely asked for that amount to keep them afloat for awhile.
I know it's bad form to quote oneself, but I did point out an alternative revenue stream a little earlier in the thread
No, but since 24 hours have passed I'm now comfortable making the comment that I deleted yesterday:
"Look on the bright side for GetBiggers - it won't be long before Ariella has to launch a XXX-rated OnlyFans to be able to feed the kid"
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Bostin was friends with Beau Baisden who got a transplant from his gf who said, "the kidney is yours to do with what you wish to." Bostin said Beau was on 2 grams of test as a baseline, a few grams of other gear on top.
Best part was he dumped her afterwards and got a new girlfriend with 2 fresh new kidneys...
That's fair enough though... I mean - It's not like GF #1 could have given him her other one, is it..?
(http://media.giphy.com/media/Q9AiCoHMaycvKbRI6I/giphy-downsized-large.gif)
;D
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I know it's bad form to quote oneself, but I did point out an alternative revenue stream a little earlier in the thread
I'd watch ;D
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If you watch Leo podcast, Bostin was just getting over Covid. Had it pretty bad he said. Few days ago he was on and was coughing and stuffed up. Those Covid respiratory infection heart attacks are real. RIP Bostin. He had no problem calling out different physiques in the industry. He's Getbigger at heart...
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........and FUCK BIDEN.
Indeed. Fuck Biden.
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........and FUCK BIDEN.
Indeed. Fuck Biden.
Agreed, gentlemen. Fuck Biden.
I almost wrote, "Buck Fiden", LOL!
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is he still dead?
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is he still dead?
Rumor has it that three days is his magic number. Personally, I don't think he's making a comeback anytime soon. Cruel? You betcha!
The idiot was a total retard with his body.
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Never heard of his guy.
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It’s not until you hear someone speak that you can fully understand one’s mentality.
When his kidney illness had become extremely serious he said something of the sorts that he’d go light and only take about 2 grams. That’s madness!
Knowing how fragile he was emotionally I’m thinking it’s possible he did indeed go on dialysis and maybe that along with his diet and lifestyle could have done him in a similar fashion as DA. (This is intended as nothing but wild speculation)
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Will be "acute cardiac event" not a heart attack.
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No, but since 24 hours have passed I'm now comfortable making the comment that I deleted yesterday:
"Look on the bright side for GetBiggers - it won't be long before Ariella has to launch a XXX-rated OnlyFans to be able to feed the kid"
From your lips to God's ears.
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Bostin was friends with Beau Baisden who got a transplant from his gf who said, "the kidney is yours to do with what you wish to." Bostin said Beau was on 2 grams of test as a baseline, a few grams of other gear on top.
Fuck Baisden.
These guys aren't necessarily "perfectly healthy." Ruhl said his heart is the size of elephants heart. Was it you who said that? Probably the kidneys aren't completely fine either - just a hunch.
I think all those guys have various health issues stemming from bb.
Yep. Although I've been unable to track down the original post, which was posted shortly after the death of Greg Kovacs in November of 2013. It was posted by a German Getbigger, and Ruhl made the comment that his heart was the size of an elephant in German, at a seminar in Germany.
I remember that post very well. Unfortunately, the only posts that I can find about it now, are posts by me referencing it...rather than the actual post:
Sadly, he is a good example of the plight of Bigorexia, alongside Nasser El Sonbaty. We speak about him being immortal, but it was in 2013 that he himself said that a German seminar that his heart was the size of an elephant. :( I like Markus and do not wish to see him die young - but do men that large ever live long?
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Sad. He truly was one of the very few good & honest guys in the industry... After his son was born everyone was hoping he would stop the crazy experiments but I guess the addiction was too strong.
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Was the laith dude not using his medical knowledge/bro science to help bostin?
Laith is a proper fraud. Way too many fanboys on YouTube swallow his garbage.
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Knowing how fragile he was emotionally I’m thinking it’s possible he did indeed go on dialysis and maybe that along with his diet and lifestyle could have done him in a similar fashion as DA. (This is intended as nothing but wild speculation)
So you speculate that he might have died because he went on dialysis whereas most others suspect he died because he didn't go on dialysis.
TBH, my impression is that he wasn't any more fragile than most others. Might even have been a bit stronger, kept up appearances at least, trying to stay positive. Yes he had a weakness for bodybuilding but people usually have something they can't let go of. On another forum someone said he wasn't mentally strong like Ronnie Coleman. Did Ronnie let go of juicing and heavy lifting. Is he weak or strong? Many would say strong, he keeps fighting. But was he able to let go of destructive habits? He did not.
Laith is a proper fraud. Way too many fanboys on YouTube swallow his garbage.
He likes to hear himself talk and has, admittedly, pretty severe mental problems. But how does he misrepresent himself?
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2 - Although his liver numbers were out of range, he was in Stage 5 kidney failure rather than liver failure. I'm no expert on either, but I imagine the end-stage of both involves at least a short stay in hospital/palliative care rather than dropping dead where you stand. So given that and his confession to occasional IV opioid use, I think we can be reasonably sure that he died of either a heart attack or an overdose
What do you think?
If his kidneys had already failed and he refused dialysis his potassium probably went so high it sent his heart into an arrhythmia. No palliative stay or hospital stay necessarily needed. He could have also hastened the process with whatever other recreational things he was taking.
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If his kidneys had already failed and he refused dialysis his potassium probably went so high it sent his heart into an arrhythmia. No palliative stay or hospital stay necessarily needed. He could have also hastened the process with whatever other recreational things he was taking.
Seeing as it happened directly after lifting I'm 100% sure you are right about the potassium induced cardiac arrest
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If his kidneys had already failed and he refused dialysis his potassium probably went so high it sent his heart into an arrhythmia. No palliative stay or hospital stay necessarily needed. He could have also hastened the process with whatever other recreational things he was taking.
Seeing as it happened directly after lifting I'm 100% sure you are right about the potassium induced cardiac arrest
Thanks fellas, I hadn't thought of the hyperkalemia/arrhythmia angle - this sounds very plausible indeed
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not saying lloyd died from gear, but bhanks says heavy roid use is safe:
Sudden cardiac death and AS
The suspicion exists that there is a strong correlation between AS (anabolic steroid) use and sudden cardiac death due to arrhythmias and myocardial infarction. In 1991, Ferenchick et al. suspected that there might be an association between AS and thrombosis that may lead to myocardial infarction and stroke in athletes [39]. Also, Shamloul et al. reported a case of a 37-year-old male AS user who died of ischemic stroke and myocardial infarction [27]. In 2011, Lippi and Banfi found that AS usage lead to thrombotic complications in athletes [40]. Roşca et al. also tested this theory with the drug nandrolone, and observed a hypercoagulable state in rats [41]. Chang et al. suggested that AS use may impair synthesis of coagulation factors, inhibitors, and fibrinolytic proteins, causing a procoagulant state that may lead to myocardial infarction and other thrombotic complications [42]. Baggish et al. also found that there was an increase in coronary artery plaque volume in AS users when compared to non-user, leading to rapidly progressive coronary artery disease [43].
Several studies revealed that AS use is linked to arrhythmia and may cause sudden cardiac death [44,45]. Two studies in 2015 and 2016, respectively, also affirmed an association with life-threatening ventricular arrhythmias in rats with the use of nandrolone [46]. Alizade et al. suggested that Tp-e interval, Tp-e/QT ratio, and Tp-e/QTc ratio were increased in bodybuilders that used AS, and this may lead to ventricular arrhythmias [47]. This was referenced in a case report published by Lichtenfeld et al. of an AS user who died of ventricular fibrillation [48]. In 2019, Marocolo et al. concluded that AS is associated with cardiac autonomic dysfunction and ventricular repolarization, and reflected an increase in QT interval [49].
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7444848/bin/cureus-0012-00000009333-i02.jpg)
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(https://media4.giphy.com/media/jLdCxgEgdUB16QODnr/giphy.gif)
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not saying lloyd died from gear, but bhanks says heavy roid use is safe:
Sudden cardiac death and AS
The suspicion exists that there is a strong correlation between AS (anabolic steroid) use and sudden cardiac death due to arrhythmias and myocardial infarction. In 1991, Ferenchick et al. suspected that there might be an association between AS and thrombosis that may lead to myocardial infarction and stroke in athletes [39]. Also, Shamloul et al. reported a case of a 37-year-old male AS user who died of ischemic stroke and myocardial infarction [27]. In 2011, Lippi and Banfi found that AS usage lead to thrombotic complications in athletes [40]. Roşca et al. also tested this theory with the drug nandrolone, and observed a hypercoagulable state in rats [41]. Chang et al. suggested that AS use may impair synthesis of coagulation factors, inhibitors, and fibrinolytic proteins, causing a procoagulant state that may lead to myocardial infarction and other thrombotic complications [42]. Baggish et al. also found that there was an increase in coronary artery plaque volume in AS users when compared to non-user, leading to rapidly progressive coronary artery disease [43].
Several studies revealed that AS use is linked to arrhythmia and may cause sudden cardiac death [44,45]. Two studies in 2015 and 2016, respectively, also affirmed an association with life-threatening ventricular arrhythmias in rats with the use of nandrolone [46]. Alizade et al. suggested that Tp-e interval, Tp-e/QT ratio, and Tp-e/QTc ratio were increased in bodybuilders that used AS, and this may lead to ventricular arrhythmias [47]. This was referenced in a case report published by Lichtenfeld et al. of an AS user who died of ventricular fibrillation [48]. In 2019, Marocolo et al. concluded that AS is associated with cardiac autonomic dysfunction and ventricular repolarization, and reflected an increase in QT interval [49].
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7444848/bin/cureus-0012-00000009333-i02.jpg)
Even TRT reduces your lifespan according to aging researchers at Harvard. Feel good now. Pay later.
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Even TRT reduces your lifespan according to aging researchers at Harvard. Feel good now. Pay later.
Even if in knocks ten years off your life, at least its the worst ten.
Who the fuck wants to sit in a care home getting kicked about by fucking immigrant carers?
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not saying lloyd died from gear, but bhanks says heavy roid use is safe:
Sudden cardiac death and AS
The suspicion exists that there is a strong correlation between AS (anabolic steroid) use and sudden cardiac death due to arrhythmias and myocardial infarction. In 1991, Ferenchick et al. suspected that there might be an association between AS and thrombosis that may lead to myocardial infarction and stroke in athletes [39]. Also, Shamloul et al. reported a case of a 37-year-old male AS user who died of ischemic stroke and myocardial infarction [27]. In 2011, Lippi and Banfi found that AS usage lead to thrombotic complications in athletes [40]. Roşca et al. also tested this theory with the drug nandrolone, and observed a hypercoagulable state in rats [41]. Chang et al. suggested that AS use may impair synthesis of coagulation factors, inhibitors, and fibrinolytic proteins, causing a procoagulant state that may lead to myocardial infarction and other thrombotic complications [42]. Baggish et al. also found that there was an increase in coronary artery plaque volume in AS users when compared to non-user, leading to rapidly progressive coronary artery disease [43].
Several studies revealed that AS use is linked to arrhythmia and may cause sudden cardiac death [44,45]. Two studies in 2015 and 2016, respectively, also affirmed an association with life-threatening ventricular arrhythmias in rats with the use of nandrolone [46]. Alizade et al. suggested that Tp-e interval, Tp-e/QT ratio, and Tp-e/QTc ratio were increased in bodybuilders that used AS, and this may lead to ventricular arrhythmias [47]. This was referenced in a case report published by Lichtenfeld et al. of an AS user who died of ventricular fibrillation [48]. In 2019, Marocolo et al. concluded that AS is associated with cardiac autonomic dysfunction and ventricular repolarization, and reflected an increase in QT interval [49].
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7444848/bin/cureus-0012-00000009333-i02.jpg)
Correlation is not causation
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I’m lost here guys.
If his kidneys had failed and he refused dialysis wouldn’t he have only a few days left?
I’ve know a couple people on dialysis and even with daily visits they looked like water bloated shells of their former self (That said Don Long looked pretty good for a while).
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I'm surprised this goldmine of a vid hasn't been posted yet, it was either taken down by YT or was deleted by him. IIRC Bostin posted this vid about 5-6 years ago ???
But it just shows the the extreme level he went to, it's almost comical watching him stick needles all over his body, running the tap incessantly, bloody tissues and needles everywhere, chillin with his juicehead buddy who I believe is in jail now.
The most hilarious bit is when he's outside the gym pinning in the parking lot :D :D :D. RIP Crazy bastard
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Listen to this. A while back Bostin said his mom found out she was stage 3. She eats 600 grams (I think that's what he said) of protein a day from chicken and nothing much else. That's crazy.
Why the fuck does his stupid mother need 600g protein a day.....
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I'm surprised this goldmine of a vid hasn't been posted yet, it was either taken down by YT or was deleted by him. IIRC Bostin posted this vid about 5-6 years ago ???
But it just shows the the extreme level he went to, it's almost comical watching him stick needles all over his body, running the tap incessantly, bloody tissues and needles everywhere, chillin with his juicehead buddy who I believe is in jail now.
The most hilarious bit is when he's outside the gym pinning in the parking lot :D :D :D. RIP Crazy bastard
Complete Fucking Idiot
I'd love to ask Him he it all worked out for Him.
Zero care or Sympathy for Him.
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Even if in knocks ten years off your life, at least its the worst ten.
Who the fuck wants to sit in a care home getting kicked about by fucking immigrant carers?
Hear that!
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Complete Fucking Idiot
I'd love to ask Him he it all worked out for Him.
Zero care or Sympathy for Him.
BAZINGA! ;D
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I'm surprised this goldmine of a vid hasn't been posted yet, it was either taken down by YT or was deleted by him. IIRC Bostin posted this vid about 5-6 years ago ???
But it just shows the the extreme level he went to, it's almost comical watching him stick needles all over his body, running the tap incessantly, bloody tissues and needles everywhere, chillin with his juicehead buddy who I believe is in jail now.
The most hilarious bit is when he's outside the gym pinning in the parking lot :D :D :D. RIP Crazy bastard
Synthol in his pecs, he was so proud to be a human pin cushion. Makes me cringe.
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Just draw it up and shoot the stuff.
These guys who get so fucking involved with gear and play chemist when they can`t even spell the word cat just kill me.
You`d think they were Harvard graduates or something......I knew junkies who were the same way with heroin and would shoot water or even beer and other stupid things cuz they were fascinated with the process of it all....just like this kid WAS.
They know a shitload about gear but are dumber than a stump.
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Does anyone remember the imbecile on gh15`s board who did 105 injections per week,every week ?
When we finally saw his physique we couldnt believe it......he looked like complete shit...hot garbage was what I called him....he looked fucking ridiculous and would have made the same "gains" on 2 cc`s twice a week.
Pathetic Pincushion Of Peace
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Does anyone remember the imbecile on gh15`s board who did 105 injections per week,every week ?
When we finally saw his physique we couldnt believe it......he looked like complete shit...hot garbage was what I called him....he looked fucking ridiculous and would have made the same "gains" on 2 cc`s one twice a week.
Pathetic Pincushion Of Peace
I remember blaha on there trying to fit in by saying he was cruising on something ridiculous like a gram of test and a gram of deca lmao
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I remember blaha on there trying to fit in by saying he was cruising on something ridiculous like a gram of test and a gram of deca lmao
What a clown........doesn`t even remotely look like he trains?
I`d bet you a dollar to a donut that blaha has never done any gear except possibly some D-Bol if that.....just trying to act the part of the bodybuilding guru.
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Even if in knocks ten years off your life, at least its the worst ten.
Who the fuck wants to sit in a care home getting kicked about by fucking immigrant carers?
Amen.
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Below is a list of famous bodybuilders who have died in the past few years due to either 1) heart attack 2) kidney failure -
- Dallas McCarver
- Rich Piana
- Luke Sandoe
- John Meadows
- George Peterson
- Bostin Loyd
- Tom Prince
- Phil Hernon
- Andy Haman
- Matt Porter
- Shawn Rhoden (Recent Mr. Olympia)
And I'm sure there are many more that I didn't name.
And most recently, Antoine Vaillant and Tony Huge both reporting heart disease!!!!
THAT IS A FUCK TON OF PEOPLE JUST IN THE PAST 5 YEARS. AND THERE ARE MANY MORE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE THEY AREN'T HIGH PROFILE ATHLETES.
STOP ABUSING STEROIDS, CLEN, PEPTIDES, DIURETICS ---- PLEASE PEOPLE. IF YOU ARE GONNA DO GEAR, DO IT IN MODERATION AND DO IT SAFELY FROM AN HRT CLINIC.
Luke was suicide no?
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… doesn`t even remotely look like he trains?
Why you asking others?
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I remember blaha on there trying to fit in by saying he was cruising on something ridiculous like a gram of test and a gram of deca lmao
Blaha is possibly our subculture’s most cherished lunatic loser.
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Blaha is possibly our subculture’s most cherished lunatic loser.
(http://i.postimg.cc/pVs08cHR/blahaclap.gif)
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Blaha is possibly our subculture’s most cherished lunatic loser.
He cried when Greg Plitt died. It was weird.
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Craig Golias is next! PIP Craig!
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Total mental illness.
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Craig Golias is next! PIP Craig!
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Why you asking others?
It was a brain fart on my part. :D
Dude is one weird cat,that`s for sure.
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Gotta stay on top pf your health mine is shockingly good
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Gotta stay on top pf your health mine is shockingly good
John Meadows also had perfect bloodwork
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Gotta stay on top pf your health mine is shockingly good
Yesterday you said you were puking bloody acid like Jeff fucking Goldblum in "The Fly"....what exactly is your definition of being healthy?
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Gotta stay on top pf your health mine is shockingly good
How is your anemia?
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Yesterday you said you were puking bloody acid like Jeff fucking Goldblum in The Fly.
:D
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Gotta stay on top pf your health mine is shockingly good
Is that your resting heart rate??
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Gotta stay on top pf your health mine is shockingly good
As another pointed out,
Hopefully your heart rate is while exercising. BPM around 100 is medically tachycardia, which could lead to/and or signal an arrhythmia. A few on this thread have rightfully speculated arrhythmia in Bostin's case, a sign of heart failure, and that can drop you in seconds. A heart attack will hurt and give Bostin time to call 911,etc.
Get it checked out. I speak from experience with hormones and heart failure. I hope you're fine though man. Just check it out.
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Yesterday you said you were puking bloody acid like Jeff fucking Goldblum in "The Fly"....what exactly is your definition of being healthy?
My blood pressure is perfect.
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Is that your resting heart rate??
My heart rate is in the upper range of normal. My BP is perfect
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What a clown........doesn`t even remotely look like he trains?
I`d bet you a dollar to a donut that blaha has never done any gear except possibly some D-Bol if that.....just trying to act the part of the bodybuilding guru.
Anybody in their right mind would think so too - based on the results, but lo and behold his ex girlfriend actually revealed he'd been blasting the shit for the whole time she was with him. She even showed pics of his shit - looks like he was homebrewing getting raws from somewhere. Speculation is he's been on without a break for close to 2 decades now (as ridiculous as that sounds). He has crippling insecurities, and would likely be dead himself save for his impoverished life preventing him using anything outside of steroids or even larger doses thereof.
fitmisc.net has an ongoing (up to part 15) series of threads going back years tracking his bs. He's like the chris chan of weight training.
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get rid of the inaccurate wrist cuff.
heart rate is not good. mine is at 100 when Im on a slow 4.0 jog on the treadmill for 20 mins.
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Even if in knocks ten years off your life, at least its the worst ten.
Who the fuck wants to sit in a care home getting kicked about by fucking immigrant carers?
That is a great point! I know relatives they are in there 90's even 80 is a shit life already.
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That is a great point! I know relatives they are in there 90's even 80 is a shit life already.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/BTDFQ527nyoWk/giphy.gif)
I know he's a millionaire, etc. so not really representative of most 91 year olds, but I guess looking after your health and making sure you've planned your finances properly can go a long way to mitigate that (or am I being over-optimistic? :))
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My blood pressure is perfect.
Sadly enough,so is your unsurpassed skill at upchucking acid and bloody stools.....you`re nowhere near as healthy as you think.
A fancy inaccurate scale and a fucking wristwatch that gives you a handjob can`t replace a doctors visit.
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Anybody in their right mind would think so too - based on the results, but lo and behold his ex girlfriend actually revealed he'd been blasting the shit for the whole time she was with him. She even showed pics of his shit - looks like he was homebrewing getting raws from somewhere. Speculation is he's been on without a break for close to 2 decades now (as ridiculous as that sounds). He has crippling insecurities, and would likely be dead himself save for his impoverished life preventing him using anything outside of steroids or even larger doses thereof.
fitmisc.net has an ongoing (up to part 15) series of threads going back years tracking his bs. He's like the chris chan of weight training.
Hard to believe ......he must have the shittiest resposne to gear on the entire planet.
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BHANKS getting all worried seeing all these bodybuilders pass away.
He’s trying to convince us how healthy he is.
He’s likely the unhealthiest person on this board.
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BHANKS getting all worried seeing all these bodybuilders pass away.
He’s trying to convince us how healthy he is.
He’s likely the unhealthiest person on this board.
Not worried in the least this dude didn't die from bodybuilding. Also what is your blood pressure? Exactly
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Not worried in the least this dude didn't die from bodybuilding. Also what is your blood pressure? Exactly
Write a will.
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Made himself a human Guinea Pig. Feel bad for his wife, his kid growing up without a father. His Dad and and Mom out living their son.
Just sad. RIP.
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Gotta stay on top pf your health mine is shockingly good
Why are you using this pathetic piece of equipment? Do you not have the flexibility to put on an arm cuff by yourself or something?
Your BP if accurate is pretty good. I've had mine lower (110/65) when I ate pretty strict and did a lot of cardio, but I'd often feel light headed when getting up from a seated or laying position. Counter intuitively I worked on increasing my BP, so ate more dirty foods and got lazy and felt much better for it (it wasn't a salt intake issue)
No comment on your heart rate
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My heart rate is in the upper range of normal. My BP is perfect
My resting heart rate last checked was 60 bp 117/78.
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Even if in knocks ten years off your life, at least its the worst ten.
Who the fuck wants to sit in a care home getting kicked about by fucking immigrant carers?
I read a quote once that was something like "I don't exercise to maximize my number of years living, I exercise to make the years I'm living now better."
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Even if in knocks ten years off your life, at least its the worst ten.
Who the fuck wants to sit in a care home getting kicked about by fucking immigrant carers?
I instantly pictured Goodrum in scrubs slapping a WW2 veteran (while recording it on his phone for Worldstar)
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I instantly pictured Goodrum in scrubs slapping a WW2 veteran (while recording it on his phone for Worldstar)
picture this scene:
basile moves to america because of crazy aussie laws
few years ends up in nursing home in s. carolina
new orderly at the ward, vince 'kielbasa' goodrum
all kinds of shenanigans erupt
vince may hit basile in the noggin with his kielbasa for a worldstar video
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Yesterday you said you were puking bloody acid like Jeff fucking Goldblum in "The Fly"....what exactly is your definition of being healthy?
Hahaha Jeff fucking goldblum in the fly
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Yesterday you said you were puking bloody acid like Jeff fucking Goldblum in "The Fly"....what exactly is your definition of being healthy?
Legit lol
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Made himself a human Guinea Pig. Feel bad for his wife, his kid growing up without a father. His Dad and and Mom out living their son.
Just sad. RIP.
His mom & dad were accomplished amateurs, would be interesting to hear their thoughts after some time.
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Not worried in the least this dude didn't die from bodybuilding. Also what is your blood pressure? Exactly
Yes, he did die from bodybuilding.
Today was 115/76 with resting heart rate of 69.
I also don’t poop blood.
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Looks like hanks heart is taking a beating.
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Bostin Loyd's contribution to bodybuilding was exposing steroid/PED addiction. He said openly "I'm an addict" and many bodybuilders lie to themselves about their steroid/PED addiction. Just because it's a different type of addiction, it's still very real, and the increasing number of deaths reflect that.
Bostin once drew the analogy that a heroin addict doesn't make fun of other addicts that use "too much" heroin. You either are an addict or you aren't. And he was an addict, admitted it, and said he can't stop. It's courageous, especially when NO ONE else in bodybuilding has the balls to make such an admission.
RIP
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Yes, he did die from bodybuilding.
Today was 115/76 with resting heart rate of 69.
I also don’t poop blood.
Shooting synthol, taking pesticides, non-human tested much less approved metabolic disrupting peptides, and iv usage of recreational opiate-based drugs is not what I consider bodybuilding that shit is all garbage. None of that is anabolic or has anything to do with training. If a junkie dies from fentanyl you don't blame the marijuana, they were also using.
You are also not in shape don't even lie
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Shooting synthol, taking pesticides, non-human tested much less approved metabolic disrupting peptides, and iv usage of recreational opiate-based drugs is not what I consider bodybuilding that shit is all garbage. None of that is anabolic or has anything to do with training. If a junkie dies from fentanyl you don't blame the marijuana, they were also using.
You are also not in shape don't even lie
Pump your brakes noob.
SF1900 is a legend around these parts, he doesn’t have anything to prove to this board, least of all you.
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Pump your brakes noob.
SF1900 is a legend around these parts, he doesn’t have anything to prove to this board, least of all you.
He is an idiot who does not know what he is talking about period end of story. Bostin was shooting all kinds of crap that had nothing to do with bodybuilding.
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He is an idiot who does not know what he is talking about period end of story. Bostin was shooting all kinds of crap that had nothing to do with bodybuilding.
And you keep talking crap and have nothing to do with bodybuilding
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Pump your brakes noob.
SF1900 is a legend around these parts, he doesn’t have anything to prove to this board, least of all you.
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He is an idiot who does not know what he is talking about period end of story. Bostin was shooting all kinds of crap that had nothing to do with bodybuilding.
Says the man spouting Nonsense & Crap all day & Everyday. 🙄
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Shooting synthol, taking pesticides, non-human tested much less approved metabolic disrupting peptides, and iv usage of recreational opiate-based drugs is not what I consider bodybuilding that shit is all garbage. None of that is anabolic or has anything to do with training. If a junkie dies from fentanyl you don't blame the marijuana, they were also using.
You are also not in shape don't even lie
Stop, just stop. Bostin likely died from a combination of factors, steroid abuse including. I agree, it was likely not only on steroids, but I would be remiss to rule out steroids completely.
Second, I train 5-6x per week. I am in shape. Others can attest to that.
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Pump your brakes noob.
SF1900 is a legend around these parts, he doesn’t have anything to prove to this board, least of all you.
Thank you, Dave. Enough people have seen my pics to know that I work out.
I mean, not like it matters what Bhanks knows. He's just angry because all these bodybuilders dying is striking fear in his eyes--cant say I blame him. I'd be nervous too if I had Bhanks health. I hope he can pull himself together and does not leave us prematurely.
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Wes, your physique destroys Bhanks' :D :D
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Stop, just stop. Bostin likely died from a combination of factors, steroid abuse including. I agree, it was likely not only on steroids, but I would be remiss to rule out steroids completely.
Second, I train 5-6x per week. I am in shape. Others can attest to that.
bhanks thinks he's the only one around here who can be in some sort of muscular shape.
bleeding rectum, dbol moon-face, racing heart-rate and all ::)
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Wes, your physique destroys Bhanks' :D :D
:D
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bhanks thinks he's the only one around here who can be in some sort of muscular shape.
bleeding rectum, dbol moon-face, racing heart-rate and all ::)
You forgot hypertension!
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I actually don’t want to log on getbig one day and see the headlines “Brian Hankins bhanky passed away at 45”
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You forgot hypertension!
other than that, "perfect health" 8)
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wonder if bostin used this pwo the day he dropped?
(https://muscleinsider.com/sites/default/files/editor/Bodybuilder_Bostin_Loyd_Dies_at_29.png)
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Thank you, Dave. Enough people have seen my pics to know that I work out.
I mean, not like it matters what Bhanks knows. He's just angry because all these bodybuilders dying is striking fear in his eyes--cant say I blame him. I'd be nervous too if I had Bhanks health. I hope he can pull himself together and does not leave us prematurely.
Again I don't do any of the shit that killed Bostin Loyd he absolutely did not die from anabolics
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You forgot hypertension!
I don't have hypertension my blood pressure is in the ideal range
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And you keep talking crap and have nothing to do with bodybuilding
Didn't you already admit you haven't lifted in months?
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wonder if bostin used this pwo the day he dropped?
(https://muscleinsider.com/sites/default/files/editor/Bodybuilder_Bostin_Loyd_Dies_at_29.png)
Team 3CCs, members with a brain mass consisting of 3 cubic centimeters, presents:
Compulsive + Cretin = Corpse
(FUCK THE INDUSTRY, DIE THE DEATHSTYLE!!! -- poor kid)
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Stop, just stop. Bostin likely died from a combination of factors, steroid abuse including. I agree, it was likely not only on steroids, but I would be remiss to rule out steroids completely.
Second, I train 5-6x per week. I am in shape. Others can attest to that.
Others can attest lol. You know what I will even give you a pass on your current belly. Throw up an arm today right now then otherwise bullshit you are not in shape today.
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Didn't you already admit you haven't lifted in months?
And ? so what - His physique is completely in a different league to yours
I hope you are not seriously trying to say you have at any point had a better physique
than him.
If when he resumes training it will not take him long to regain 95% + of what he looked like.
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And ? so what - His physique is completely in a different league to yours
I hope you are not seriously trying to say you have at any point had a better physique
than him.
If when he resumes training it will not take him long to regain 95% + of what he looked like.
I absolutely have a better physique than him today right fucking now. He shows pics of him dieted down to 200lbs 10 years ago. He walks around with an extra 25lbs of fluff and has quit training entirely now. I would fucking destroy him if he took of his shirt next to me today.
If and When lol GTFO I win today right now is today not a point in time???
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I absolutely have a better physique than him today right fucking now. He shows pics of him dieted down to 200lbs 10 years ago. He walks around with an extra 25lbs of fluff and has quit training entirely now. I would fucking destroy him if he took of his shirt next to me today.
If and When lol GTFO I win today right now is today not a point in time???
So by your argument you are a better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman,, Gotcha
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So by your argument you are a better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman,, Gotcha
Ronnie is still pretty jacked just because he walks funny and isn't prime Ronnie doesn't mean he still isn't vascular and huge compared to everyone else. He still looks to have 20 inch vascular arms he is my height and still a lot bigger than me
The real question is what is going on with his legs he is wearing compression socks and his knees look swollen his lower body is being flooded with excess fluid retention. Is he having heart or kidney issues?
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Ronnie is still pretty jacked just because he walks funny and isn't prime Ronnie doesn't mean he still isn't vascular and huge compared to everyone else. He still looks to have 20 inch vascular arms he is my height and still a lot bigger than me
The real question is what is going on with his legs he is wearing compression socks and his knees look swollen his lower body is being flooded with excess fluid retention. Is he having heart or kidney issues?
this happened a lot with spinal rehab patients I had in the past - prob has something to do with spinal injuries and nerve innervation
along with heart issues and also prob has something to with being sedentary most of the day - I imagine Ron C doesn't stand much unless its for a photo or money -
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Ronnie is still pretty jacked just because he walks funny and isn't prime Ronnie doesn't mean he still isn't vascular and huge compared to everyone else. He still looks to have 20 inch vascular arms he is my height and still a lot bigger than me
The real question is what is going on with his legs he is wearing compression socks and his knees look swollen his lower body is being flooded with excess fluid retention. Is he having heart or kidney issues?
Ronnie is not 5"11. So neither are you..
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I absolutely have a better physique than him today right fucking now. He shows pics of him dieted down to 200lbs 10 years ago. He walks around with an extra 25lbs of fluff and has quit training entirely now. I would fucking destroy him if he took of his shirt next to me today.
If and When lol GTFO I win today right now is today not a point in time???
Pipe down buddy boy.
Pretty sure he posted his contest prep from a show just a few years ago. Probably one of the ATG physiques from normie level getbig posters
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Ronnie is still pretty jacked just because he walks funny and isn't prime Ronnie doesn't mean he still isn't vascular and huge compared to everyone else. He still looks to have 20 inch vascular arms he is my height and still a lot bigger than me
The real question is what is going on with his legs he is wearing compression socks and his knees look swollen his lower body is being flooded with excess fluid retention. Is he having heart or kidney issues?
Nutrition cocoon. Yeah Buddy!!!
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I absolutely have a better physique than him today right fucking now. He shows pics of him dieted down to 200lbs 10 years ago. He walks around with an extra 25lbs of fluff and has quit training entirely now. I would fucking destroy him if he took of his shirt next to me today.
If and When lol GTFO I win today right now is today not a point in time???
I haven't spoken to him recently or seen any up to date pics of him.
So lets assume he isn't & has not been lifting in a while - Then you should damn well hope
you have a Better physical development than he has right Now.
You best pray he not hit the gym in earnest as in a few weeks/months he'd leave you
well behind.
Compare your best physique to his & lights out game over - He wins just as Wes does.
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The real question is what is going on with my ankles and feet is my body being flooded with excess fluid retention.
Am I having heart or kidney issues?
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^^^Pot meet kettle.....talk about fucking irony...GEEZUS. ::)
Hanky I`m sorry but you couldn`t carry Jeffs gym bag......very fucking delusional and laughable on your part for a guy who claims to be a genius.
Jeff at fourty four years of age, would kill you.....well into his fifties he would still crush you....BUT you are leaner than him at this very second. ::)
I have pics waaaay lighter than you in bodyweight at both forty six and fifty seven years of age that I would have no problem comparing with you today....if you make it to forty six or fifty seven we`ll compare then also. ;D
You don`t take age into account with the older pics we posted when we competed......we are both older than you in ninety nine percent of the pics we posted.... and buddy you just can`t hang......BUT, today you are leaner., though in all your pics you are younger than both of us.....come back when you grow up son.
You know you make it a contest if anyone posts a pic or if they wont post a pic....there is an organization called the NPC that holds actual bodybuilding contests buddy.....kick ass onstage and even though you are an attention whoring bitch then you will garner exactly one iota of respect from me and not more than that cuz no one cares about your pics......we`ve been there, done that, and got the T-Shirt junior.
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"Throw up an arm today right now then otherwise bullshit you are not in shape today."
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I don't have hypertension my blood pressure is in the ideal range
Your resting heart rate is fucked, smoking meth over there.
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^^^Pot meet kettle.....talk about fucking irony...GEEZUS. ::)
Beat me to it. ;D
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Beat me to it. ;D
;D
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wonder if bostin used this pwo the day he dropped?
It's not clear, but ironically, rumour has it that he was pulling that exact face when they found him... :'(
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Others can attest lol. You know what I will even give you a pass on your current belly. Throw up an arm today right now then otherwise bullshit you are not in shape today.
Lol keep dreaming the I have a belly.
Bhanks, I feel bad for you. I really do. It must be horrible to have such awful bodybuilding genetics and not even realize it. You will likely go nowhere in the competitive field.
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Your resting heart rate is fucked, smoking meth over there.
Bhanks appears to be very unhealthy.
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Lol keep dreaming the I have a belly.
Bhanks, I feel bad for you. I really do. It must be horrible to have such awful bodybuilding genetics and not even realize it. You will likely go nowhere in the competitive field.
good to see you posting again SF! Yes I agree, Bhank will go nowhere in bodybuilding. He also talks a big game about his fighting abilities but went nowhere in that either, losing both amateur fights he had to low level fighters.
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I'm starting to get a Navy Mike vibe from this thread. ;D
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good to see you posting again SF! Yes I agree, Bhank will go nowhere in bodybuilding. He also talks a big game about his fighting abilities but went nowhere in that either, losing both amateur fights he had to low level fighters.
Hi tennis! Thanks for the kind words!
Bhanks really has poor Genetics and sends very unhealthy. He won’t go anywhere in bodybuilding.
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Maybe better Bostin left the world early.
Think of the guys who were in his situation and what they went through and what they looked like.
He eventually could have looked as bad as Bhank before he died.
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Maybe better Bostin left the world early.
Think of the guys who were in his situation and what they went through and what they looked like.
He eventually could have looked as bad as Bhank before he died.
Fucking Bullshit there are no pictures anywhere of me being this out of shape and dude is 28 in this pic
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That’s water retention from obvious kidney issues.
RIP. Family must be devastated. Seemed like he was doing pretty good a few weeks ago.
How come he was putting off dialysis?
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Fucking Bullshit there are no pictures anywhere of me being this out of shape and dude is 28 in this pic
Man, look at that poor kid. No more dad. Narcicists of peace.
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Fucking Bullshit there are no pictures anywhere of me being this out of shape and dude is 28 in this pic
WTF is wrong with you?
The guy has just died FFS
From pissing on Pellius now this..
Just fuck off
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WTF is wrong with you?
The guy has just died FFS
From pissing on Pellius now this..
Just fuck off
The fuck is wrong with the other poster trying to compare him to me. If motherfuckers are going to claim Jesus was in better shape than me before his death, then I will pull up the shroud of Turin for comparison. You don't want me pissing on the dead stop comparing them to me. I don't do any of the shit that killed Bostin and he already was in worse shape than me dude was a fatty at 28 yeah he looked great in a show at 23 juiced out he looked like shit by his mid to late 20s. He was IV injecting crushed oxy with tap water I mean seriously fucking heroin addict level junkie. Nothing to do with me or my lifestyle. I have been in shape lifting and training healthy the same way for 25 years he is dead at 29 no comparison he didnt die at 29 from lifting and training healthy he lived like shit and his physique reflected it.
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he already was in worse shape than me dude was a fatty at 28
He was dying dude, and If we found out he was sick in late 2020/early 2021, that means it was probably happening a good deal before that.
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WTF is wrong with you?
The guy has just died FFS
From pissing on Pellius now this..
Just fuck off
He makes it a contest with anyone because it makes him feel superior.... even with the dead.
He`s a great person.
::)
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He was dying dude, and If we found out he was sick in late 2020/early 2021, that means it was probably happening a good deal before that.
Yeah and from what his chosen lifestyle of injecting synthol (that shit is toxic I dont give a fuck what anyone says), eating pesticides DNP, Taking strange non human grade fat loss peptides, and IV injecting recreational drugs. None if that is bodybuilding in my book. None of that is what I would consider healthy training. None of that has anything to do with me. If you train the right way you can do it forever it doesn't kill you after a decade. He didn't die from bodybuilding. And yeah all that Non bodybuilding stuff is why he was dying and looked like shit. So no I do not appreciate the comparisons people keep making to me. I have been doing this for 25 years and I am healthy as can be and fuck yes I have never looked that out of shape in my life. Again do not use SEO do not take DNP do not take strange peptides know to cause liver failure in monkeys and for fuck sake don't IV recreational drugs. If you follow that protocol and train you will have abs and be in shape at 44 years old not pudgy with man boobs and dead at 29. Why was he taking this peptided that destroys fat tissue he knew it caused liver failure obviously he was desperate to get in shape clearly he wasn't in great shape if he felt he should take that risk to lose some bodyfat. He probably had the excess bodyfat because he was doing more IV injections of poisonous chemicals than actual training.
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He makes it a contest with anyone because it makes him feel superior.... even with the dead.
He`s a great person.
::)
Did you even read this thread half of it is people comparing my health to Bostin which again see above is garbage then they want to compare my physique. I didn't start this but you godam right I will defend myself. Your physique is a reflection of your lifestyle and I don't appreciate being compared to a fat Junkie.
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Pellius is still dead yes?
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Pellius is still dead yes?
So is your dad.
Phaggot.
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I dont recall Bostin ever beating his girlfriend
He wins
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;D
Hopefully hanky's GF doesn't "beat herself up" tonight.
He's been a little more aggressive on here than normal.
Trouble is brewing.
Hopefully when the Cops come this time they remember to use the doorbell.
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I'm starting to get a Navy Mike vibe from this thread. ;D
Because of the fucked knees? Are you saying bhank is on the disability too!? :o
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That’s water retention from obvious kidney issues.
RIP. Family must be devastated. Seemed like he was doing pretty good a few weeks ago.
How come he was putting off dialysis?
From what I saw it was kind of a combination of him "feeling fine", arranging and interpreting his own blood work rather than having the Doc do it, choosing to self-medicate with all sorts of things (like EPO, etc.) and what came across as a basic distrust of doctors and the health system, claiming they just wanted to make money from him... :-\
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From what I saw it was kind of a combination of him "feeling fine", arranging and interpreting his own blood work rather than having the Doc do it, choosing to self-medicate with all sorts of things (like EPO, etc.) and what came across as a basic distrust of doctors and the health system, claiming they just wanted to make money from him... :-\
Well, he claimed one doc told him he was fine, even with the awful blood work. He was muscular and appeared healthy looking so he was fine :D
I wonder what his docs said, if they were pressuring him to start dialysis? Or if they go by how the patient is feeling?
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Because of the fucked knees? Are you saying bhank is on the disability too!? :o
That's a good call too. But I was speaking to Bhanks being in the cross hairs of a certain someone who ran Navy Michael off the boards.
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BHANKS, these are the following people who have looked better than you:
Wes
Coach is back
JOSWIFT
Bostin Loyd
Soul Crusher
Frankenstein
Face it, you don’t have the Genetics for bodybuilding. You have a beach body. I think you should spend more time on the beach showing off your body and less time on here or trying to compete. Competing will be a waste of time and energy for you.
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BHANKS, these are the following people who have looked better than you:
Wes
Coach is back
JOSWIFT
Bostin Loyd
Soul Crusher
Frankenstein
Face it, you don’t have the Genetics for bodybuilding. You have a beach body. I think you should spend more time on the beach showing off your body and less time on here or trying to compete. Competing will be a waste of time and energy for you.
L
Thanks brother. What I can’t grasp is that he does steroids and drugs for what end ?
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Thanks brother. What I can’t grasp is that he does steroids and drugs for what end ?
To come in 2nd place out of two competitors and to never make a name for himself in the bodybuilding industry. :D :D
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https://www.brewerfuneral.com/obituaries/Bostin-Loyd?obId=24109263
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From what I saw it was kind of a combination of him "feeling fine", arranging and interpreting his own blood work rather than having the Doc do it, choosing to self-medicate with all sorts of things (like EPO, etc.) and what came across as a basic distrust of doctors and the health system, claiming they just wanted to make money from him... :-\
Damn. I agree with money and distrust but basic function of the kidneys is to filter and that’s what those machines do.
Sucks, definitely would have bought him more time with his family.
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https://www.brewerfuneral.com/obituaries/Bostin-Loyd?obId=24109263
That’s it, the obituary ???
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https://www.brewerfuneral.com/obituaries/Bostin-Loyd?obId=24109263
Wow. Funeral isn't until the 11th and burial til the 12th. That's a long time in the cooler.
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I just watched one of Leo’s vids with BL less than a month before he died and Leo spent a lot of time speaking to him about his concerns about his heart telling him if his magnesium is too low he thought it could cause him problems.
Leo assured him that his heart must be fine though.
Although he probably shouldn’t have said this I can understand it can be hard to let someone know they are close to death’s door; BL may not have been open to that kind of conversation.
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The irony of his tattoo “getbig or die trying”
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Once you usually go on dialysis, you don’t come off. He didn’t want to face the music. He started the movement of pros admitting true doses and talking openly about it. Always seemed like a good guy who had good intentions. RIP.
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https://www.brewerfuneral.com/obituaries/Bostin-Loyd?obId=24109263
Oh Christ the tributes are unmoderated!!!😬 Hope no GetBiggers notice... ... ...
My deepest condlences to Ariella, Maria, Jon, Jaxtin. I have been friends with Bostin for a number of years. I am an ex bodybuilder, but I still loved the sport. I gravitated to Bostin because of who he was, what he stood for, and how honest he was. The way he did not sugar coat things, and told it like it is. EXACTLY the way I am. When he did his revolutionary and groundbreaking 1 year transformation, I just had to reach out to him, and he was gracious enough to reply back to me, a nobody. That is just way Bostin was. He loved and respected everyone. Over time we developed a friendship, which I cherished. He would also give it to you straight, even if it hurt your feelings. But that is what a friend is supposed to do, isn't it? Give it to you straight, and honestly? He was a pioneer and legend for blowing the lid off of the "Bodybuilding Lie". Up until this point, bodybuilding was the biggest lie on the planet. Selling newbies, fools and idiots, products and services that did absolutely nothing for them. The "magic diet" and "magic workout" snake oil salesman, leaving countless consumers in their wake. Well Bostin could NOT do something like that. Bostin needed to tell it like it is. He needed to set the record straight, and give people the truth. Bostin told me that people warned him that he was going to get into trouble, was going to get busted, and go to jail, for telling the truth about bodybuilding, but he told me that he wasn't scared, and he was going to tell the truth, regardless of what happened to him. Well that is what Bostin did, he told the truth. He was the 1st one to ever do it, and he is a legend for it. There were many who came after him, but they will never have the charisma, honesty, and likeability that he had. I will miss your sense of humor, your good nature, and your generosity. Your family was everything to you, and you were everything to your family Bostin. What you had was rare in this day and age. Your sense of right and wrong was unprecedented, and you were not for sale. Bostin would go out of his way to turn down deals because he didn't believe in a product or service. He was one of a kind when it came to ethics and morals. Absolutely unheard of in this day and age, where everyone will do anything for buck, but NOT Bostin. I am crushed beyond words that I will never get to see or speak with you again. I will be forever haunted by the fact that I did not get that workout with you, or have the chance to do that next "cheat meal" with you. This is getting long, so I guess I will end it here. I will NEVER forget you Bostin, and will ALWAYS hold you in my heart and mind. You were 1 of a kind, and I will miss you buddy. When I get up there, you better be ready for that workout, because from what I heard, our joints won't hurt on the other side, so be ready to play the game I used to play as a young man with you. We used to call it "Stack Man" because we would make sure whatever exercise we were doing, we would do the whole stack LOL! Then when we are done with our workout, we will get that "cheat meal"! Love you buddy, and I will miss you! L. A. AKA- 007stopjockin
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And I'm not being a cunt... ... OK maybe just a little... ;D And I can see that GetBiggers names are on the list, so this is just a gentle piss-take. But it seems to me that there was a little bit of competition to see who would be top contributer to the GoFundMe
I mean, I can see $2500 from the 3rd guy on the list is a number, but surely the 2 above him were just trying to ensure they were top of the list?
And I see Species Nutrition copped for $500 - nicely done Big D
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Once you usually go on dialysis, you don’t come off. He didn’t want to face the music. He started the movement of pros admitting true doses and talking openly about it. Always seemed like a good guy who had good intentions. RIP.
Beau Baisden currently investing heavily in home potassium testing kits right now
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That’s it, the obituary ???
That's more likely a place holder obit, they family didn't provide one so the funeral home just wrote up a basic one.
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Oh Christ the tributes are unmoderated!!!😬 Hope no GetBiggers notice... ... ...
AKA- 007stopjockin
This made the whole quote for me. Got to get the pen name in there. I have to admit, it would warm my heart to see a bunch of goofy meathead tributes in my guest book if I was ghost Bostin.
"Bostin's death is bad
It made me sad
Your internet buddy
G.B. AKA - PinSnappingGlutes1525
Use code Bigasfux to get 25% off Celltech at xyz.com"
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Oh Christ the tributes are unmoderated!!!😬 Hope no GetBiggers notice... ... ...
My deepest condlences to Ariella, Maria, Jon, Jaxtin. I have been friends with Bostin for a number of years. I am an ex bodybuilder, but I still loved the sport. I gravitated to Bostin because of who he was, what he stood for, and how honest he was. The way he did not sugar coat things, and told it like it is. EXACTLY the way I am. When he did his revolutionary and groundbreaking 1 year transformation, I just had to reach out to him, and he was gracious enough to reply back to me, a nobody. That is just way Bostin was. He loved and respected everyone. Over time we developed a friendship, which I cherished. He would also give it to you straight, even if it hurt your feelings. But that is what a friend is supposed to do, isn't it? Give it to you straight, and honestly? He was a pioneer and legend for blowing the lid off of the "Bodybuilding Lie". Up until this point, bodybuilding was the biggest lie on the planet. Selling newbies, fools and idiots, products and services that did absolutely nothing for them. The "magic diet" and "magic workout" snake oil salesman, leaving countless consumers in their wake. Well Bostin could NOT do something like that. Bostin needed to tell it like it is. He needed to set the record straight, and give people the truth. Bostin told me that people warned him that he was going to get into trouble, was going to get busted, and go to jail, for telling the truth about bodybuilding, but he told me that he wasn't scared, and he was going to tell the truth, regardless of what happened to him. Well that is what Bostin did, he told the truth. He was the 1st one to ever do it, and he is a legend for it. There were many who came after him, but they will never have the charisma, honesty, and likeability that he had. I will miss your sense of humor, your good nature, and your generosity. Your family was everything to you, and you were everything to your family Bostin. What you had was rare in this day and age. Your sense of right and wrong was unprecedented, and you were not for sale. Bostin would go out of his way to turn down deals because he didn't believe in a product or service. He was one of a kind when it came to ethics and morals. Absolutely unheard of in this day and age, where everyone will do anything for buck, but NOT Bostin. I am crushed beyond words that I will never get to see or speak with you again. I will be forever haunted by the fact that I did not get that workout with you, or have the chance to do that next "cheat meal" with you. This is getting long, so I guess I will end it here. I will NEVER forget you Bostin, and will ALWAYS hold you in my heart and mind. You were 1 of a kind, and I will miss you buddy. When I get up there, you better be ready for that workout, because from what I heard, our joints won't hurt on the other side, so be ready to play the game I used to play as a young man with you. We used to call it "Stack Man" because we would make sure whatever exercise we were doing, we would do the whole stack LOL! Then when we are done with our workout, we will get that "cheat meal"! Love you buddy, and I will miss you! L. A. AKA- 007stopjockin
I wish this was real.....
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"Bostin's death is bad
It made me sad
Your internet buddy
G.B. AKA - PinSnappingGlutes1525
Use code Bigasfux to get 25% off Celltech at xyz.com"
LMFAO
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This made the whole quote for me. Got to get the pen name in there. I have to admit, it would warm my heart to see a bunch of goofy meathead tributes in my guest book if I was ghost Bostin.
"Bostin's death is bad
It made me sad
Your internet buddy
G.B. AKA - PinSnappingGlutes1525
Use code Bigasfux to get 25% off Celltech at xyz.com"
;D
I wish this was real.....
I am already going to hell for murder (cleared - self defence - no prison time - but Jeebers is watching) but I am sorely tempted to post some shit right there! ;D
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;D
I am already going to hell for murder (cleared - self defence - no prison time - but Jeebers is watching) but I am sorely tempted to post some shit right there! ;D
Love to hear this story!
Also Jesus forgives you but you'll have to forgive yourself as well.
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Oh Christ the tributes are unmoderated!!!😬 Hope no GetBiggers notice... ... ...
My deepest condlences to Ariella, Maria, Jon, Jaxtin. I have been friends with Bostin for a number of years. I am an ex bodybuilder, but I still loved the sport. I gravitated to Bostin because of who he was, what he stood for, and how honest he was. The way he did not sugar coat things, and told it like it is. EXACTLY the way I am. When he did his revolutionary and groundbreaking 1 year transformation, I just had to reach out to him, and he was gracious enough to reply back to me, a nobody. That is just way Bostin was. He loved and respected everyone. Over time we developed a friendship, which I cherished. He would also give it to you straight, even if it hurt your feelings. But that is what a friend is supposed to do, isn't it? Give it to you straight, and honestly? He was a pioneer and legend for blowing the lid off of the "Bodybuilding Lie". Up until this point, bodybuilding was the biggest lie on the planet. Selling newbies, fools and idiots, products and services that did absolutely nothing for them. The "magic diet" and "magic workout" snake oil salesman, leaving countless consumers in their wake. Well Bostin could NOT do something like that. Bostin needed to tell it like it is. He needed to set the record straight, and give people the truth. Bostin told me that people warned him that he was going to get into trouble, was going to get busted, and go to jail, for telling the truth about bodybuilding, but he told me that he wasn't scared, and he was going to tell the truth, regardless of what happened to him. Well that is what Bostin did, he told the truth. He was the 1st one to ever do it, and he is a legend for it. There were many who came after him, but they will never have the charisma, honesty, and likeability that he had. I will miss your sense of humor, your good nature, and your generosity. Your family was everything to you, and you were everything to your family Bostin. What you had was rare in this day and age. Your sense of right and wrong was unprecedented, and you were not for sale. Bostin would go out of his way to turn down deals because he didn't believe in a product or service. He was one of a kind when it came to ethics and morals. Absolutely unheard of in this day and age, where everyone will do anything for buck, but NOT Bostin. I am crushed beyond words that I will never get to see or speak with you again. I will be forever haunted by the fact that I did not get that workout with you, or have the chance to do that next "cheat meal" with you. This is getting long, so I guess I will end it here. I will NEVER forget you Bostin, and will ALWAYS hold you in my heart and mind. You were 1 of a kind, and I will miss you buddy. When I get up there, you better be ready for that workout, because from what I heard, our joints won't hurt on the other side, so be ready to play the game I used to play as a young man with you. We used to call it "Stack Man" because we would make sure whatever exercise we were doing, we would do the whole stack LOL! Then when we are done with our workout, we will get that "cheat meal"! Love you buddy, and I will miss you! L. A. AKA- 007stopjockin
Sounds like a schmoe
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Beau Baisden currently investing heavily in home potassium testing kits right now
:D ;)
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Love to hear this story!
Also Jesus forgives you but you'll have to forgive yourself as well.
^Jews 4 Jesus detected^
🤣
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Sounds like a schmoe
;D ;D ;D
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Beau Baisden currently investing heavily in home potassium testing kits right now
and Beau biden is still dead (with bostin)
same affliction - no brain
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Is Bostin Loyd still dead?
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Is Bostin Loyd still dead?
yup
right now he's just chillin'
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Is Bostin Loyd still dead?
Yes. To the dismay of many a schmoe
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Is Bostin Loyd still dead?
He lives forever in our hearts.
And in the actions of those bodybuilders willing to push the boundaries of the human form in pursuit of thonged glory.
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Dave Palumbo says Bostin's cause of death was genetic:
Dave also talked about how "healthy" John Meadows was when he died.
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Yeah, his dad had it but his dad was also on high quality 80s and 90s gas which I am sure didn't help... His son was on a ton of shit to the point he was shooting peptides in gym parking lots like it was perfectly natural.. Palumbo should just be honest about this shit.. If you take a car and bolt on a massive turbo and intercooler and all the rest to it components are going to fail much sooner.. Things break when they are run well out of spec. I wonder what his heart weighed.
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Dave Palumbo says Bostin's cause of death was genetic:
Dave also talked about how "healthy" John Meadows was when he died.
Why would anyone listen / Believe anything Dave Palumbo says
A Know Liar & Seller of Bunk Gear.
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Fark, you've got to feel bad for Ariella - she was completely obsessed with Bostin.
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Why would anyone listen / Believe anything Dave Palumbo says
A Know Liar & Seller of Bunk Gear.
Healthiest looking skeleton I’ve ever seen
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Palumbo is claiming to have Bostin's mom on his channel soon. Also saying the family will have to pay to get an autopsy.
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The autopsy findings are in a video on the page before this one
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palumbo did a 1/2 of semester at med-school, acts like he's smarter than everyone, acts like a dr.
very high blood-pressure and atherosclerosis can also cause aortic dissection. (not just hereditary issues).
im guessing he had a genetic problem, totally sped-up and accelerated by insane anabolic use (and peptides, etc)
no one really knows. dave said Loyd's dad would ask him to go get checked for that but he didnt.
who knows, if they found it and fixed it early, he may not have died from it.
next on his list was kidney failure anyways.
dr. wood-healey hankins refuses t believe anabolics played a part.
steroid abuse if very heart-toxic and could have contributed.
if he only built a nutrition cocoon.
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palumbo did a 1/2 of semester at med-school, acts like he's smarter than everyone, acts like a dr.
very high blood-pressure and atherosclerosis can also cause aortic dissection. (not just hereditary issues).
im guessing he had a genetic problem, totally sped-up and accelerated by insane anabolic use (and peptides, etc)
no one really knows. dave said Loyd's dad would ask him to go get checked for that but he didnt.
who knows, if they found it and fixed it early, he may not have died from it.
next on his list was kidney failure anyways.
dr. wood-healey hankins refuses t believe anabolics played a part.
steroid abuse if very heart-toxic and could have contributed.
if he only built a nutrition cocoon.
I agree. Wonder if Bostin took BP meds, don’t ever remember him mentioning BP.
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Apparently he had high BP.
Didn’t want to take beta blocker for fear of getting fat and said it didn’t do anything for him. Blood pressure usually 155/85. His dad pushed him to get on BP meds (lisinopril) and he said he tried some along with HTCZ and got sick on them (cold sweats) and decided not to take them anymore.
Podcast with that Leo guy. Sounded like he showed signs of kidney issues on that podcast back in 2020 and said he had kidney ache pain. Podcast 32.
And he said his lipid tests were terrible.
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Never let a bodybuilding tragedy go to waste.
- Dave Palumbo, AD (almost doctor)
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And he said his lipid tests were terrible.
Im sure it didnt help his cause ^^
roid abuse is absolutely heart-damaging. hanky's in denial.
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if leo and longevity (long-toothery) keeps having folks on his channel who drop dead, he'll need to rename his channel.
another guy who plays 'fake dr.' on youtube.
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if leo and longevity (long-toothery) keeps having folks on his channel who drop dead, he'll need to rename his channel.
another guy who plays 'fake dr.' on youtube.
He’s mentioned Getbig before. Anybody know his handle?
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He’s mentioned Getbig before. Anybody know his handle?
i know he's a known woman beater as his arrest-stuff was posted on IG once under his real/muzzie name.
not a nice fella
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Fark, you've got to feel bad for Ariella - she was completely obsessed with Bostin.
Agreed, so much so she said he had a big cock even after his photos went live.
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Dave Palumbo says Bostin's cause of death was genetic:
Dave also talked about how "healthy" John Meadows was when he died.
Pure cope.
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i know he's a known woman beater as his arrest-stuff was posted on IG once under his real/muzzie name.
not a nice fella
Wow. Did not know this. Religion of women’s rights
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^^ Nor me
i know he's a known woman beater as his arrest-stuff was posted on IG once under his real/muzzie name.
not a nice fella
Frustrated h0mo of peace..? 🤔
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Fark, you've got to feel bad for Ariella - she was completely obsessed with Bostin.
Eh she fucked around on him a bunch before she got knocked up.
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Fark, you've got to feel bad for Ariella - she was completely obsessed with Bostin.
It was definitely the other way around. He was obsessed with her.
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Eh she fucked around on him a bunch before she got knocked up.
I wouldn’t expect anything less from a gal with nip rings
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IS TRT considered heart damaging, blood thickening, etc over so many years on it?
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IS TRT considered heart damaging, blood thickening, etc over so many years on it?
Yeah. Too less of hormones is bad for heart and too much is bad.
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I wouldn’t expect anything less from a gal with nip rings
:P
Too early for me to search for evidence of this to jack off to..?
Yeah. Too less of hormones is bad for heart and too much is bad.
So you're saying we should all aim for Momma Bear's dosage..?
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i know he's a known woman beater as his arrest-stuff was posted on IG once under his real/muzzie name.
not a nice fella
Posted without comment, other than I love the gossip -
The Leo Longevity hate page -
https://www.instagram.com/leoandlongevity_fan_page/?hl=en .
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The legal stuff -
LA and Samantha Ollerton vs LAITH BDULLAH MOHAMMAD ALGAZ ALFALASI .
https://unicourt.com/case/urc-GFGCAJBWI44FCHI5INNW5EDNNBKBI0918 .
https://unicourt.com/case/urc-EVABIGBKHMWEKEMAMIWVXBDCLFFQQ1032 .
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Posted without comment, other than I love the gossip -
The Leo Longevity hate page -
https://www.instagram.com/leoandlongevity_fan_page/?hl=en .
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The legal stuff -
LA and Samantha Ollerton vs LAITH BDULLAH MOHAMMAD ALGAZ ALFALASI .
https://unicourt.com/case/urc-GFGCAJBWI44FCHI5INNW5EDNNBKBI0918 .
https://unicourt.com/case/urc-EVABIGBKHMWEKEMAMIWVXBDCLFFQQ1032 .
I knew that guy was a c unt.
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He's been a bit quiet lately, could he be in trouble again (https://i.imgflip.com/4mj5gg.png) -
https://unicourt.com/case/ca-ora-lucie-colomb-vs-laith-algaz-1184824 .
Maybe, perhaps, allegedly.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1IomLWhd2SY/maxresdefault.jpg).
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IS TRT considered heart damaging, blood thickening, etc over so many years on it?
Coincidentally posted today (he must be a lurker here ;D) - not everyone likes this guy, but I find him pretty watchable - especially now we can compare him to Leo the woman beater who helped kill Bostin... ;) ;D
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:P
Too early for me to search for evidence of this to jack off to..?
So you're saying we should all aim for Momma Bear's dosage..?
What’s real TRT these days? Seems “TRT” is interchangeable for 200mg week.
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What’s real TRT these days? Seems “TRT” is interchangeable for 200mg week.
125mg/week is normal and healthy.
200/mg week is a LOT, if you're on it permanently.
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Dave Palumbo says Bostin's cause of death was genetic:
Dave also talked about how "healthy" John Meadows was when he died.
Got round to looking at this and there are some good comments below sticking it to that other Dave (not our Dave ;)) A few examples...
Dan
57 minutes ago
Person dies of overdose from injecting 3 grams of fentanyl into vein in their neck
Dave: argh those gEnEtIc conditions
Person dies from gun shot wound to skull
Dave: that darn vAcCiNe struck again
Mike
49 minutes ago
Dave, every autopsy report you review, you never attribute the drugs these guys use to playing a role in the death. They always have something to do with the heart or kidneys and we all know that PED abuse can cause havoc on them. You just can’t keep saying it’s natural causes or genetics. Many people have these genetic abnormalities yet live long lives. It’s definitely disingenuous to not acknowledge that more than likely if these guys didn’t go hard on the drugs, there probably would have been a different outcome. The man was 29!
Jeff Morabito
19 hours ago
Living that Reckless life did add to his demise. I dont care what anyone says. He pushed the envelope to furthest extreme which in turn compounded this event!! RIP Bostin and behave where ever you are =)
Borgata999
10 hours ago
I am a fan of yours Dave but I have been listening to you for a long time. According to you, NO bodybuilder has ever died from drug usage. That is simply astounding.
Interceptor11
18 hours ago
Dave, thanks for the interesting scoop on this unfortunate situation. I must take issue, though, with your assumption that the etiology of this Thoracic Aortic Dissection was “genetic.” While it’s true that some dissections (perhaps 20%) can certainly be from a hereditary connective tissue disease, and that may have been the case here, you can’t ignore the fact that the vast majority of cases are caused by hypertension, atherosclerosis from hyperlipidemia, smoking, drug use, etc. Bostin’s chronic kidney disease means he was likely very hypertensive which was probably a major contributing factor here. Also, you have to consider that infectious aortitis can be a cause of TAA, either by direct bacterial seeding and mycotic aneurysm or by septic embolus. In someone who, I’m sure, injected himself with countless substances this has to be considered as a possible cause as well. The lifestyle that he led was probably a major contributing factor if not THE cause of the dissection, although genetics MAY have played a role - but I wouldn’t downplay the former as much as you did! Either way, a tragedy. If any lifter ever experiences tearing, severe chest pain, back pain, abdominal pain, and/or headache (often with other associated symptoms such as neurological deficits, leg weakness/numbness, nausea, diaphoresis - i.e. profuse sweating), they should go to the ER immediately. Survival from a thoracic aortic dissection decreases dramatically every hour. It’s truly a time-sensitive emergency and every second counts.
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125mg/week is normal and healthy.
200/mg week is a LOT, if you're on it permanently.
125mg is probably the highest "legit" TRT you will get from a real Doctor.
My Endo says i need ~75mg every 5-7 days to be normal range.
Everyone is a little different, but that is generally correct.
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Cruise on 100-125mg and mini blast 200mg before beach season or upcoming social events. Best of both worlds! Wish I was doing it
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Im sure it didnt help his cause ^^
roid abuse is absolutely heart-damaging. hanky's in denial.
Hanky isn't abusing anything
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125mg is probably the highest "legit" TRT you will get from a real Doctor.
My Endo says i need ~75mg every 5-7 days to be normal range.
Everyone is a little different, but that is generally correct.
For some reason bbers think 500 mg and up is considered trt
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Hanky isn't abusing anything
Except his bi..... oh never mind ;).
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What’s real TRT these days? Seems “TRT” is interchangeable for 200mg week.
whatever gets you to 600-800 Ng/dl of test. For most people that's ~10mg/day, so 70mg/week testosterone plus the weight of the chemical ester (ie: enanthate, cypionate, etc) for a total of 100mg test e/c weekly
For longevity, low-normal is probably ideal. More than that and you're starting to burn the candle at both ends--even if you feel better/younger.
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For some reason bbers think 500 mg and up is considered trt
Most do and are just fooling themselves.
I've ran 400-500mg for extended periods of time and it does create some problems down the line.
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No way in hell am I watching all of this but he did snap on Palumbo in the first dozen minutes
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Coincidentally posted today (he must be a lurker here ;D) - not everyone likes this guy, but I find him pretty watchable - especially now we can compare him to Leo the woman beater who helped kill Bostin... ;) ;D
what's this 'Leo the woman beater' stuff??
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what's this 'Leo the woman beater' stuff??
Look who the cat drug in. Welcome back ESF!
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Look who the cat drug in. Welcome back ESF!
ESF and Bhanks together, this could get epic.
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what's this 'Leo the woman beater' stuff??
you know how folks can be on social media.
someone posted his mug-shots and arrests on IG under his real muzzie name at one point.
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Leo is a fucking pussy and who the fuck are all those fucking weirds in the video? Some big bloated moron on the bottom. Tony huge is a fucking joke.
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ESF and Bhanks together, this could get epic.
I've been waiting patiently for this.
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what's this 'Leo the woman beater' stuff??
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=677492.msg9745665#msg9745665 .
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=677492.msg9745679#msg9745679 .
He has two DV cases on his record. That second one is the girl he used to do the show with.
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ESF and Bhanks together, this could get epic.
Some one just been released as they back on here. :D ;D :D
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For some reason bbers think 500 mg and up is considered trt
Life begins at 1200mgs
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Some one just been released as they back on here. :D ;D :D
One little post last night. Nothing since. Cock teaser.
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Coincidentally posted today (he must be a lurker here ;D) - not everyone likes this guy, but I find him pretty watchable - especially now we can compare him to Leo the woman beater who helped kill Bostin... ;) ;D
Im out of the loop. What’s the story on Leo beating women?
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So Leo's family issues he was crying about in the video were just him catching a case for beating down his wife?
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what's this 'Leo the woman beater' stuff??
Christ - it's about time - where've you been!? Good to see you posting again 8)
ESF and Bhanks together, this could get epic.
(http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpics.me.me%2Fwhat-happens-when-an-unstoppable-force-meets-an-immovable-object-13519528.png&f=1&nofb=1)
Im out of the loop. What’s the story on Leo beating women?
BB has you covered earlier in the thread
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=677492.msg9745665#msg9745665 .
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=677492.msg9745679#msg9745679 .
He has two DV cases on his record. That second one is the girl he used to do the show with.
There's also an anti-Leo Instagram account that someone posted this link to that might get interesting...
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Im out of the loop. What’s the story on Leo beating women?
BB has you covered earlier in the thread
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=677492.msg9745665#msg9745665 .
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=677492.msg9745679#msg9745679 .
He has two DV cases on his record. That second one is the girl he used to do the show with.
There's also an anti-Leo Instagram account that someone posted this link to that might get interesting...
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4936936036420540&id=100003125767653&sfnsn=mo
Did a random search to see if anyone went. Hopefully his boy never touches any of this crap or other young ppl see this and stop otherwise it was for nothing...
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Christ - it's about time - where've you been!? Good to see you posting again 8)
(http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpics.me.me%2Fwhat-happens-when-an-unstoppable-force-meets-an-immovable-object-13519528.png&f=1&nofb=1)
BB has you covered earlier in the thread
There's also an anti-Leo Instagram account that someone posted this link to that might get interesting...
been busy with real life stuff. doin well past couple yrs.
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Some one just been released as they back on here. :D ;D :D
me? released?
i'm doing well. rehab for 4months starting dec 19th(i think?) 2019 (shit? maybe2020? whatever i don't keep track). clean and well since. very well.
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ah, i see Leo's chic Lucie filed restraining order and all that.. whatever. i don't care.
ya'll loved Scott Markey.. i got stories about him. like having 13 restraining orders from 13 different women at one time in '00/'01 and ya'll loved him. lol
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Once you've settled back in here it would be great for you to familiarize yourself with the reigning getbig rookie of the year. Bhanks. He's gunning for his pro card later this year in the masters division. Someone with your varying life experiences might be a real asset in his quest. Hope you are here to stay this time. Glad you are well.
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ah, i see Leo's chic Lucie filed restraining order and all that.. whatever. i don't care.
ya'll loved Scott Markey.. i got stories about him. like having 13 restraining orders from 13 different women at one time in '00/'01 and ya'll loved him. lol
he contacted Ron and got all your lies taken down last time you brought him up, dont start that again
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Only the good and innocent die young :'(
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Once you've settled back in here it would be great for you to familiarize yourself with the reigning getbig rookie of the year. Bhanks. He's gunning for his pro card later this year in the masters division. Someone with your varying life experiences might be a real asset in his quest. Hope you are here to stay this time. Glad you are well.
yup, I think Eric and Bhanks need to discuss injuries, bioidentical hormones and nutrition cocoons.
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yup, I think Eric and Bhanks need to discuss injuries, bioidentical hormones and nutrition cocoons.
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he contacted Ron and got all your lies taken down last time you brought him up, dont start that again
On the contraire, please start that again.
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Only the good and innocent die young :'(
I don't think even ESFitness would have done that.
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I don't think even ESFitness would have done that.
Bet he has ;D
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bostin still dead?
rotten dead carcass, carrion? food for the ants?
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he contacted Ron and got all your lies taken down last time you brought him up, dont start that again
lies eh? if ANYTHING i said about that scumbag was a lie, it should'a been easily refutable. instead of crying to Ron and getting anything removed.
feel free to ask, i could write a book on that scumbag who stripped at gay parties for money for drugs, but who's dick wouldn't work anymore even with 200mg viagra and had no problem jerking his dick on early cam-show's but never got paid (him and drea didn't get paid) i'm amazed nobody has screenshots of him doing that. probably cuz nobody outside of bbing even knew who he was at the tiime ('03).
i could write a book.
fuckoff scarcrow.
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lies eh? if ANYTHING i said about that scumbag was a lie, it should'a been easily refutable. instead of crying to Ron and getting anything removed.
feel free to ask, i could write a book on that scumbag who stripped at gay parties for money for drugs, but who's dick wouldn't work anymore even with 200mg viagra and had no problem jerking his dick on early cam-show's but never got paid (him and drea didn't get paid) i'm amazed nobody has screenshots of him doing that. probably cuz nobody outside of bbing even knew who he was at the tiime ('03).
i could write a book.
fuckoff scarcrow.
Derek Kraus's face when he realizes ES still thinks of him -
(https://static.coltstudiogroup.com/_thumbs/dud_673_c6a852b9edf4665ed0f2b83165a206c0.jpg).
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Derek Kraus's face when he realizes ES still thinks of him -
(https://static.coltstudiogroup.com/_thumbs/dud_673_c6a852b9edf4665ed0f2b83165a206c0.jpg).
back when he still had hair. he was painfulling trying to cover up his really bad thinning hairline (hell, his entire top head) back in 01, and wore a backwards baseball cap (fitted cap, with "Tavi" embroidered on the back, which he wore backwards to hide his really bad thinning hair)
unless he got $8k from sucking dicks or letting guys suck his dick (and didn't spend it on benzos and fentanyl) to spend on a hair transplant, he's like'lly looking a lot like a 175LB nasser right now.
ever wonder why he doesn't have any social media these days? a former well known 'fitness model' NOT having social media?? haha think about it fellas
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ah, i see Leo's chic Lucie filed restraining order and all that.. whatever. i don't care.
ya'll loved Scott Markey.. i got stories about him. like having 13 restraining orders from 13 different women at one time in '00/'01 and ya'll loved him. lol
unsure who this even is
dont care either
getbiggers dont love "social media influencers"
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lies eh? if ANYTHING i said about that scumbag was a lie, it should'a been easily refutable. instead of crying to Ron and getting anything removed.
feel free to ask, i could write a book on that scumbag who stripped at gay parties for money for drugs, but who's dick wouldn't work anymore even with 200mg viagra and had no problem jerking his dick on early cam-show's but never got paid (him and drea didn't get paid) i'm amazed nobody has screenshots of him doing that. probably cuz nobody outside of bbing even knew who he was at the tiime ('03).
i could write a book.
fuckoff scarcrow.
when I spoke to him he could hardly reemember you, he finally recalled you as the guy who used to hang around the gyms trying to convince everyone he was a bodybuilder and the guy who got sold all the fake gear and was ripped off by everyone because he wanted so desperatly to fit in.
Hardly surprising your dislike of him.
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been busy with real life stuff. doin well past couple yrs.
"Real Life" for ESF is prison, lol.
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"Real Life" for ESF is prison, lol.
or having an abscess drained..
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or having an abscess drained..
One thing FOR SURE is that he's a L O S E R!
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ah, i see Leo's chic Lucie filed restraining order and all that.. whatever. i don't care.
ya'll loved Scott Markey.. i got stories about him. like having 13 restraining orders from 13 different women at one time in '00/'01 and ya'll loved him. lol
He did get exposed for having a small cock and disappeared off the board
Same for Steve Namath, claimed he had a “Hungarian hammer” got exposed for small cock as well and disappeared
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He did get exposed for having a small cock and disappeared off the board
Same for Steve Namath, claimed he had a “Hungarian hammer” got exposed for small cock as well and disappeared
I always though that was a "must have" to be allowed on the board???
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I always though that was a "must have" to be allowed on the board???
;D :D
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ya'll loved Scott Markey.. i got stories about him. like having 13 restraining orders from 13 different women at one time in '00/'01 and ya'll loved him. lol
Sounds like a close relation to our village idiot hanky.
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Sounds like a close relation to our village idiot hanky.
Scott occasionally boxes with Hanky at the harvard club
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Scott occasionally boxes with Hanky at the harvard club
(http://media.giphy.com/media/IiBJyuzvrsOHu/giphy.gif)
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I wonder what's going to happen to Bostin's steroid stash🤔
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when I spoke to him he could hardly reemember you, he finally recalled you as the guy who used to hang around the gyms trying to convince everyone he was a bodybuilder and the guy who got sold all the fake gear and was ripped off by everyone because he wanted so desperatly to fit in.
Hardly surprising your dislike of him.
hardly remember?
he worked for me for over a year. last 9+ months of his employment i picked him up and took him home every day because he didn't own a car. he didn't even have a license. he would only drive his gf's cars ... like drea's black mustang that her mom paid for on her credit card, except when the card was maxed out and drea was driving back into the US from mexico with a bunch of klonopin and nubain (because scott had bench warrants for not attending anger management from one of those 13 restraining orders and couldn't cross the border) and the license plate readers popped the car as stolen and drea gets caught with all the drugs lol... who did scott call to ask for bail money? lol
and got sold all the fake gear and ripped off by everyone?
eh, me and him got our gear from the same spot in tijuana every week. again, i drove the broke junkie bum.
fuck off with your little bullshit scarecrow.
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hardly remember?
he worked for me for over a year. last 9+ months of his employment i picked him up and took him home every day because he didn't own a car. he didn't even have a license. he would only drive his gf's cars ... like drea's black mustang that her mom paid for on her credit card, except when the card was maxed out and drea was driving back into the US from mexico with a bunch of klonopin and nubain (because scott had bench warrants for not attending anger management from one of those 13 restraining orders and couldn't cross the border) and the license plate readers popped the car as stolen and drea gets caught with all the drugs lol... who did scott call to ask for bail money? lol
and got sold all the fake gear and ripped off by everyone?
eh, me and him got our gear from the same spot in tijuana every week. again, i drove the broke junkie bum.
fuck off with your little bullshit scarecrow.
Loser criminal..FUCK OTTA HERE, FAGGO T!
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Loser criminal..FUCK OTTA HERE, FAGGO T!
did a quick search of your posts. pretty evident you have some form of autism and a complete lack of social skills. i'd be surprised if you have friends in real life (they've been to your house), or a job that pays more than 2400/m pre-tax. i'd be even more surprised if you're married, or even have a gf or have even had sex in the last 5yrs (who you didn't pay, at least).
you have some deficits when it comes to social development. i can see why you're so angry and bitter. your day to day life must be shit.
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did a quick search of your posts. pretty evident you have some form of autism and a complete lack of social skills. i'd be surprised if you have friends in real life (they've been to your house), or a job that pays more than 2400/m pre-tax. i'd be even more surprised if you're married, or even have a gf or have even had sex in the last 5yrs (who you didn't pay, at least).
you have some deficits when it comes to social development. i can see why you're so angry and bitter. your day to day life must be shit.
WRONG!!!IDIOT!!!!
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hardly remember?
he worked for me for over a year. last 9+ months of his employment i picked him up and took him home every day because he didn't own a car. he didn't even have a license. he would only drive his gf's cars ... like drea's black mustang that her mom paid for on her credit card, except when the card was maxed out and drea was driving back into the US from mexico with a bunch of klonopin and nubain (because scott had bench warrants for not attending anger management from one of those 13 restraining orders and couldn't cross the border) and the license plate readers popped the car as stolen and drea gets caught with all the drugs lol... who did scott call to ask for bail money? lol
and got sold all the fake gear and ripped off by everyone?
eh, me and him got our gear from the same spot in tijuana every week. again, i drove the broke junkie bum.
fuck off with your little bullshit scarecrow.
(https://wonderclub.com/images/persons/1798.jpg).
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hardly remember?
he worked for me for over a year. last 9+ months of his employment i picked him up and took him home every day because he didn't own a car. he didn't even have a license. he would only drive his gf's cars ... like drea's black mustang that her mom paid for on her credit card, except when the card was maxed out and drea was driving back into the US from mexico with a bunch of klonopin and nubain (because scott had bench warrants for not attending anger management from one of those 13 restraining orders and couldn't cross the border) and the license plate readers popped the car as stolen and drea gets caught with all the drugs lol... who did scott call to ask for bail money? lol
and got sold all the fake gear and ripped off by everyone?
eh, me and him got our gear from the same spot in tijuana every week. again, i drove the broke junkie bum.
fuck off with your little bullshit scarecrow.
I think you mistake dreams with memories..
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did a quick search of your posts. pretty evident you have some form of autism and a complete lack of social skills. i'd be surprised if you have friends in real life (they've been to your house), or a job that pays more than 2400/m pre-tax. i'd be even more surprised if you're married, or even have a gf or have even had sex in the last 5yrs (who you didn't pay, at least).
you have some deficits when it comes to social development. i can see why you're so angry and bitter. your day to day life must be shit.
Brutal takedown 8)
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Brutal takedown 8)
Weak 8)
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ESfitness, when are you gonna address the elephant in the room and square off with bhank? Most members here think you have him beat on toughness, but Bhank has said that nobody….and I repeat nobody messes with him in real life. Any comment on when you might address this?
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I think you mistake dreams with memories..
60yrs old mistaking typing sassy messages to faceless names on your computer screen for "a life'.
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ESfitness, when are you gonna address the elephant in the room and square off with bhank? Most members here think you have him beat on toughness, but Bhank has said that nobody….and I repeat nobody messes with him in real life. Any comment on when you might address this?
doesn't bother me or affect me, so i don't care
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In case it wasn't already mentioned,
Oh, well - he wasn't going to write the Beethoven's Ninth Symphony anyway.
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60yrs old mistaking typing sassy messages to faceless names on your computer screen for "a life'.
you have been calling me 60 for at least 4 years, I thought you had a good memory?
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Weak 8)
No, he basically neutered you.