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My wife finally said it’s time for her to diet….. so naturally she is making me to. Mountain bike season starts 1st Sept (Spring) and I need to be much lighter on the bike for my upcoming trips.
Calories not quite at the no one/Galeniko level but 1,000 mark or so. No one liked 700cal days but it’s crazy hard to do that every day.
Wife is cooking our food. I have chicken and lettuce for lunch. Dinner is rice and mince (flavoured) or rice and fish. Day 2 sucked the most, day 3 today is fine.
Haven’t lifted weights for a year. When I trained like no one did 5-6yrs ago I looked my best so I’m going to do that this time around. Requires time to get tendons adjusted so will do weights, you can’t go straight into 7 days a week because you will be in utter agony.
Taking 250/wk test Enth.
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If you're trying to get better at bike riding, I'd focus on that combined w a moderate diet to support your training and promote weight loss.
Galeniko diet is really effective and I'm a fan, but not really conducive to things like "athletic performance" ;D
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My wife finally said it’s time for her to diet….. so naturally she is making me to. Mountain bike season starts 1st Sept (Spring) and I need to be much lighter on the bike for my upcoming trips.
Calories not quite at the no one/Galeniko level but 1,000 mark or so. No one liked 700cal days but it’s crazy hard to do that every day.
Wife is cooking our food. I have chicken and lettuce for lunch. Dinner is rice and mince (flavoured) or rice and fish. Day 2 sucked the most, day 3 today is fine.
Haven’t lifted weights for a year. When I trained like no one did 5-6yrs ago I looked my best so I’m going to do that this time around. Requires time to get tendons adjusted so will do weights, you can’t go straight into 7 days a week because you will be in utter agony.
Taking 250/wk test Enth.
I personally would have started the Test once I got into decent shape naturally.....muscle memory is a good thing to take advantage of.....why waste gear when you will make gains rebuilding what you previously had fairly easy,well much easier than you would if you had never trained before.
700 calories on a steady basis is not good IMO....I have done 800 close to a contest for a few days,but not much longer than that..........have also done 2 weeks with zero carbs.....almost blacked out on several occasions......had to leave the gym and hit the store across the street and wolf down some cupcakes and breakfast bars just to be able to think clearly.
Keep protein high and cycle your carbs is my advice.
Just my 3 CC`s !
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Biking on 1K calories or less? Is that enough energy (calories) to support that?
Plus 7-days a week of weights?
I am a big fan of folks experimenting, curious to see how it works out for you. Best of luck to you and your wife...
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have a daily calorie intake goal and fill it foods dense in micronutrients
usually Whole Foods , natural - start basic with oats rice meat fish - and add spices and flavor, cooking methods and build a routine
your body will reward you by doing this - I think a lot of these idiots "anxiety" in life is eating like a goddam cirrus clown act ? you digestion system has to work hard to ABSORB nutrients - not fckn have mouth orgasms
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If not enough protein is eaten your body will catabolize muscle tissue.....how much glucose and glycogen are you gonna` have eating calories that low?
no one and Gal looked great but lets not forget they didn`t always do this and were probably both on more gear than you are using.
As Gym Rat said,good luck to you both and if you need to make adjustments just do so......don`t stick to a plan if it`s not producing results.
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I strategy I’ve used for long term weight maintenance is to have a fixed time at night when you stop eating. For me it’s 8pm. This keeps you from running up the calories that come from eating out of boredom.
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you digestion system has to work hard to ABSORB nutrients - not fckn have mouth orgasms
"Mouth orgasms".....Hankys "diet" comes to mind!
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Westcock is saying u need more steroids basically, i recommend more beer quit working and eating
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Westcock is saying u need more steroids basically, i recommend more beer quit working and eating
Go bale some hay you silly hillbilly !!
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Good luck mayday. I’ve been on a protein shake only diet for somewhere around 9 days now. 6 shakes a day 960 calories,150g protein,30g carbs,36g fat. Doing 10 miles a of cardio every other day and weights every other day. I’m enjoying it. Plenty of energy, strength etc… I am used to low calorie keto though so no big deal here.
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55/35/10 or 50/35/15
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I strategy I’ve used for long term weight maintenance is to have a fixed time at night when you stop eating. For me it’s 8pm. This keeps you from running up the calories that come from eating out of boredom.
Same here. I stop at 6:55 PM.
In bed by 7 PM 8)
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I strategy I’ve used for long term weight maintenance is to have a fixed time at night when you stop eating. For me it’s 8pm. This keeps you from running up the calories that come from eating out of boredom.
what happens if you get bored during the day?
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what happens if you get bored during the day?
Nighttime when you’re sitting around watching tv is when a lot of the unnecessary eating happens. You’re continually seeing commercials for pizza and burgers.. I believe there are studies that confirm this.
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The crackhead diet lol. If you're too far out of shape, you'll most likely end up cheating too much or stagnating. Better just to search bethere's contest prep threads and eat sensibly. Bit of carbs, and more protein.
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The crackhead diet lol. If you're too far out of shape, you'll most likely end up cheating too much or stagnating. Better just to search bethere's contest prep threads and eat sensibly. Bit of carbs, and more protein.
This topic has been done to death to an absurd extent. It’s really not rocket science. Just cut back on unnecessary carbs and fats and leave the protein as is.
And for general health, I’ve found it beneficial to eat a green leafy salad daily.
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How hard can this be, lol? Just calorie count, stick to a high carb, moderate protein, moderate fat diet. Start at about 10 calories per pound bodyweight if you want to lose. Anything lower than that is stupid since you will drop muscle like a rock. Losing 2 pounds a week is easy and not stressful. No trendy fasting, no extreme macronutrient shifts- just a gradual cutting back of calories. Your stomach will get used to less food very quickly
Bicycling is 99% carbs. You can get by on 100g of protein and not have issues.
For the record, I recently went from 206 to 189 in 8 weeks doing exactly the above. I bicycle race and have no issues on 2200-2400 calories a day while leaning out.
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One diet plan does not fit all. Not all people have the same goals. Folks are distinct sizes in terms of bone structure, height, and body type (ecto, endo, and meso). We are different ages, follow a variety of exercise routines, have unique metabolisms and overall, endless possible genetic makeups. Someone else's diet plan is a good starting point but stay open to adjustments along the way and tailor the diet to your specific needs and targets.
A sensible diet is more likely to result in success than one that is difficult to follow and maintain.
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How hard can this be, lol? Just calorie count, stick to a high carb, moderate protein, moderate fat diet. Start at about 10 calories per pound bodyweight if you want to lose. Anything lower than that is stupid since you will drop muscle like a rock. Losing 2 pounds a week is easy and not stressful. No trendy fasting, no extreme macronutrient shifts- just a gradual cutting back of calories. Your stomach will get used to less food very quickly
Bicycling is 99% carbs. You can get by on 100g of protein and not have issues.
For the record, I recently went from 206 to 189 in 8 weeks doing exactly the above. I bicycle race and have no issues on 2200-2400 calories a day while leaning out.
You can come up with a diet plan in a few minutes. The hard part is in the execution.
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You can come up with a diet plan in a few minutes. The hard part is in the execution.
^^^^THIS
Execution is when the work begins as more than likely your comfort zone will no longer exist.....if it does exist,you`ll fail.
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Good luck mayday. I’ve been on a protein shake only diet for somewhere around 9 days now. 6 shakes a day 960 calories,150g protein,30g carbs,36g fat. Doing 10 miles a of cardio every other day and weights every other day. I’m enjoying it. Plenty of energy, strength etc… I am used to low calorie keto though so no big deal here.
lol @ten miles walk to see husband? Westcock says all u need is steroids low dose of course
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The Gal/No one starvation diet is a terrible idea if you are active.
Also, they used a lot of drugs to help get that lean.
Like many have said, just make healthy choices and slowly reduce your calories as you lose weight. Don't try to do too much, you will just burn out.
I'm a fan of moderate carbs and high protein. No carbs in the evening.
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Nighttime when you’re sitting around watching tv is when a lot of the unnecessary eating happens. You’re continually seeing commercials for pizza and burgers.. I believe there are studies that confirm this.
makes sense
I only watch movie channels, no adverts
Although I used to watch Man v Food when I was dieting ???
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Thanks for all the responses :D
My background if track cycling then moved onto road cycling in my 20s30s and I moved to downhill mountain biking 5yrs ago. It’s all shuttles uphill, HI downhill. Energy is fine on local 2min trails for training but on my trips it’s all day events and I know 2,400 in absolute minimum for me to function.
Test at 250/wk was started to get my blood up. Yes I cheat in sport but it’s track cycling, mofos are on all sorts of things. I’m on trt anyway so I always bump up a notch 4+ weeks before my trips to get me through it then drop back once my trip is done.
Last time I did this it was 6 weeks going from zero to 12% and looking decent for an average guy (I looked great for my age). I remember struggling with low cals at that point, was eating 750/day and all day long only thought about food lol. This time I’m having 1,000 give or take and looking just to get in shape, 14% would be a milestone perhaps in 4 weeks time.
Day 4 now. I haven’t stepped on a scale, perhaps next week. Sore even from baby weights once this week.
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makes sense
I only watch movie channels, no adverts
Although I used to watch Man v Food when I was dieting ???
I must be a masochist,I watch tons of food shows when dieting also !! :D
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Occasionally used the galeniko 700 calories with no carbs a day as prefer to knock a bit fat off as fast as possible when need too but 2 weeks is my max by then I found muscle loss is inevitable even on 250mg of test. By week 2 tshirts started to fit like they was hanging on a coat hanger
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lol @ten miles walk to see husband? Westcock says all u need is steroids low dose of course
Are you huffing paint 24/7?
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You can come up with a diet plan in a few minutes. The hard part is in the execution.
Isn't that the story of any goal though? Desire needs to turn to action.
That being said, a moderate reduction in calories leads to a lot of weight loss over time- and that is relatively painless. The problem is people want fast results.
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Isn't that the story of any goal though? Desire needs to turn to action.
That being said, a moderate reduction in calories leads to a lot of weight loss over time- and that is relatively painless. The problem is people want fast results.
Yeah, and people don't realize it's a lifestyle change.
For the average person, it boils down to changing their daily habits, which is very hard for most people.
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Yeah, and people don't realize it's a lifestyle change.
For the average person, it boils down to changing their daily habits, which is very hard for most people.
Agreed. Most people say they want to change but never do.
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High protein, fats to round out calories, carbs pwo and before bed for me. Eat small amounts of boring food frequently before you're hungry.
You'd know better than me tho. You haven't lifted in a year and you're straight on the juice. You must be way hardcore.
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Gayer then dieting because your wife told you.
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Gayer then dieting because your wife told you.
:D
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My wife finally said it’s time for her to diet….. so naturally she is making me to. Mountain bike season starts 1st Sept (Spring) and I need to be much lighter on the bike for my upcoming trips.
Calories not quite at the no one/Galeniko level but 1,000 mark or so. No one liked 700cal days but it’s crazy hard to do that every day.
Wife is cooking our food. I have chicken and lettuce for lunch. Dinner is rice and mince (flavoured) or rice and fish. Day 2 sucked the most, day 3 today is fine.
Haven’t lifted weights for a year. When I trained like no one did 5-6yrs ago I looked my best so I’m going to do that this time around. Requires time to get tendons adjusted so will do weights, you can’t go straight into 7 days a week because you will be in utter agony.
Taking 250/wk test Enth.
Tell your wife you love her having a big fat booty and you don't want her to diet. This eliminates your need to diet as well.
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Tell your wife you love her having a big fat booty and you don't want her to diet. This eliminates your need to diet as well.
You are single arent you?
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Agreed. Most people say they want to change but never do.
This is why i stopped helping normal people with diets and exercise.
Always a waste of time and instead of following what i tell them, they make excuses.
Or they do it for 6 weeks and see improvements, then go back to what they were doing and wonder why it's not working anymore.
I've been following a "diet" for 6 years. It changes a little, but not much.
And i can gain or lose weight in a ridiculous amount of time, by just changing a few things.
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This is why i stopped helping normal people with diets and exercise.
Always a waste of time and instead of following what i tell them, they make excuses.
Or they do it for 6 weeks and see improvements, then go back to what they were doing and wonder why it's not working anymore.
I've been following a "diet" for 6 years. It changes a little, but not much.
And i can gain or lose weight in a ridiculous amount of time, by just changing a few things.
If I had a nickel for every diet I wrote out for average fucks who never even tried to stick to the plan,I`d be a millionaire.
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High protein, fats to round out calories, carbs pwo and before bed for me. Eat small amounts of boring food frequently before you're hungry.
You'd know better than me tho. You haven't lifted in a year and you're straight on the juice. You must be way hardcore.
I’ve been on trt for 8yrs so adding an extra 125/wk is what I do for mountain bike season for the extra blood.
The only reason my training went out the window is for the last year we have been building a house in a different city and we’re living as in laws. Life was stressful enough without worrying about training and diet so we just let it be what it was so that it didn’t add to existing stress.
You are single arent you?
Me? I’m a family man.
Tell your wife you love her having a big fat booty and you don't want her to diet. This eliminates your need to diet as well.
lol yea but then I actually would get too fat. My wife is an awesome cook so I get everything done at chef level for me. Pretty easy to diet this way.
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If I had a nickel for every diet I wrote out for average fucks who never even tried to stick to the plan,I`d be a millionaire.
Could you afford that type of cut in pay?
Can you send me money to fly over and fight Uncle Joon?
Bwahahahahahaha!!!!
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I don't have time to diet
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If I had a nickel for every diet I wrote out for average fucks who never even tried to stick to the plan,I`d be a millionaire.
At first I was ready to call bullshit, as this translates to a minimum of 20 million diets written.
But then I realized the guy who posted it likely started writing them on a cave walls so it's really only ten or so a year.
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I’ve been on trt for 8yrs so adding an extra 125/wk is what I do for mountain bike season for the extra blood.
The only reason my training went out the window is for the last year we have been building a house in a different city and we’re living as in laws. Life was stressful enough without worrying about training and diet so we just let it be what it was so that it didn’t add to existing stress.
Right on your wavelength. When my wife and I were installing a new lawn her parents would pop in for Sunday chats. Plus the dog got finicky about his kibble for awhile. I went 750/wk and we dominated the 3 legged race circuit all season.
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Gayer then dieting because your wife told you.
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Calories that low will lower your metabolism and u will lose muscle..bad idea
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At first I was ready to call bullshit, as this translates to a minimum of 20 million diets written.
But then I realized the guy who posted it likely started writing them on a cave walls so it's really only ten or so a year.
;D
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Calories that low will lower your metabolism and u will lose muscle..bad idea
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You are single arent you?
Yes. I used to be married. I don't know why it didn't work out.
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High protein, fats to round out calories, carbs pwo and before bed for me. Eat small amounts of boring food frequently before you're hungry.
You'd know better than me tho. You haven't lifted in a year and you're straight on the juice. You must be way hardcore.
Pretty simple, straightforward advice but why carbs before bed?
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Not sure how many times this has to be said before people will understand you can't just starve yourself into shape. You are going from nothing to starvation with a little sauce and weight lifting thrown in on the side. Horrible plan you havent lifted in over a year so you are going to start lifting while starving yourself? Eat regular and exercise eliminating food is not how you get in shape never has been and never will be. You need energy to train and recover and grow your muscle and get the benefits of weightlifting. That new muscle is a furnace that will recomp your body but it ain't going to happen while you starve yourself.
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Not sure how many times this has to be said before people will understand you can't just starve yourself into shape. You are going from nothing to starvation with a little sauce and weight lifting thrown in on the side. Horrible plan you havent lifted in over a year so you are going to start lifting while starving yourself? Eat regular and exercise eliminating food is not how you get in shape never has been and never will be. You need energy to train and recover and grow your muscle and get the benefits of weightlifting. That new muscle is a furnace that will recomp your body but it ain't going to happen while you starve yourself.
You don't have to starve yourself but you do have to limit your food intake. Eddy Hall has 3x the muscle you will ever have and that "new muscle furnace" didn't do shit.
https://www.menshealth.com/uk/weight-loss/a35199527/eddie-hall-weightloss/ (https://www.menshealth.com/uk/weight-loss/a35199527/eddie-hall-weightloss/)
"In order to lose weight, Hall has also had to revamp his diet. While it still amounts to 7000 calories a day, according to Joe.co.uk (https://www.joe.co.uk/fitness-health/everything-eddie-hall-eats-in-a-day-250624), Hall's daily diet now looks something like this:7.30am: One apple before morning power walkBreakfast: Steak and scrambled eggs (five eggs), one glass of orange juiceMid-morning: Whey protein shakeLunch: Two large pieces of chicken, rice, mixed vegetables and half a glass of orange juiceMid-afternoon: Chocolate granola or punnet of strawberries with Manuka honey6pm meal: Homemade chicken curry, rice and vegetables (carrots, peas and sweetcorn)Dinner (8.30pm): Large portion of air-fried chicken, two baked potatoes, asparagus, coleslaw, peppers cooked in butter and half a bottle of mayonnaiseEvening snacks: Yoghurt, nuts, honey, fruit"
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woooshhhhhh....
This weeks daily food menu
Meal 1: Tuna can
repeat daily for 7 days
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Pretty simple, straightforward advice but why carbs before bed?
I mean my main meal of the day is often right before I go to bed, and has most of the day's carbs. I know they say we're supposed to do the opposite but small carb free or carb sparse meals from breakfast and through my workday make my physical job seem less effortful and I'm more mentally attuned.
"Fuel up for the work" is bullshit imo. Who's running outside to chop and haul wood after Thanksgiving dinner because they're "fueled up?" Eat heavy and you naturally feel like sleeping. The dog does the same thing, so I nosh & nod like nature intends.
When I breakfast like a king and supper like a pauper I'm dragging ass until midday and I toss and turn at night.
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I mean my main meal of the day is often right before I go to bed, and has most of the day's carbs. I know they say we're supposed to do the opposite but small carb free or carb sparse meals from breakfast and through my workday make my physical job seem less effortful and I'm more mentally attuned.
"Fuel up for the work" is bullshit imo. Who's running outside to chop and haul wood after Thanksgiving dinner because they're "fueled up?" Eat heavy and you naturally feel like sleeping. The dog does the same thing, so I nosh & nod like nature intends.
When I breakfast like a king and supper like a pauper I'm dragging ass until midday and I toss and turn at night.
I skip breakfast for same reason mate, hard graft on a full stomach is a very unpleasant experience, the odd day I be stupid And get something big for dinner I’m half asleep in the van and everything that afternoon done sluggish as fuck
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I skip breakfast for same reason mate, hard graft on a full stomach is a very unpleasant experience, the odd day I be stupid And get something big for dinner I’m half asleep in the van and everything that afternoon done sluggish as fuck
If I've got a lazy day I love a full fry up or yankee style breakfast of pancakes, corned beef hash, and eggs. Makes me useless for hours tho. Wouldn't want to be hopping on the trestle throwing ceilings shortly after.
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I met Gal in London a few years back, we didnt eat anything all day, he had a caramel macchiato in Starbucks.
Guy was in great shape.
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Happy medium is a small breakfast: Eggs Oatmeal Coffee, Done.
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You don't have to starve yourself but you do have to limit your food intake. Eddy Hall has 3x the muscle you will ever have and that "new muscle furnace" didn't do shit.
https://www.menshealth.com/uk/weight-loss/a35199527/eddie-hall-weightloss/ (https://www.menshealth.com/uk/weight-loss/a35199527/eddie-hall-weightloss/)
"In order to lose weight, Hall has also had to revamp his diet. While it still amounts to 7000 calories a day, according to Joe.co.uk (https://www.joe.co.uk/fitness-health/everything-eddie-hall-eats-in-a-day-250624), Hall's daily diet now looks something like this:7.30am: One apple before morning power walkBreakfast: Steak and scrambled eggs (five eggs), one glass of orange juiceMid-morning: Whey protein shakeLunch: Two large pieces of chicken, rice, mixed vegetables and half a glass of orange juiceMid-afternoon: Chocolate granola or punnet of strawberries with Manuka honey6pm meal: Homemade chicken curry, rice and vegetables (carrots, peas and sweetcorn)Dinner (8.30pm): Large portion of air-fried chicken, two baked potatoes, asparagus, coleslaw, peppers cooked in butter and half a bottle of mayonnaiseEvening snacks: Yoghurt, nuts, honey, fruit"
Eddie also went from 6 grams of gear, to TRT...
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I mean my main meal of the day is often right before I go to bed, and has most of the day's carbs. I know they say we're supposed to do the opposite but small carb free or carb sparse meals from breakfast and through my workday make my physical job seem less effortful and I'm more mentally attuned.
"Fuel up for the work" is bullshit imo. Who's running outside to chop and haul wood after Thanksgiving dinner because they're "fueled up?" Eat heavy and you naturally feel like sleeping. The dog does the same thing, so I nosh & nod like nature intends.
When I breakfast like a king and supper like a pauper I'm dragging ass until midday and I toss and turn at night.
I skip breakfast for same reason mate, hard graft on a full stomach is a very unpleasant experience, the odd day I be stupid And get something big for dinner I’m half asleep in the van and everything that afternoon done sluggish as fuck
yes, 100%. I'll have coffee w milk for breakfast and one for lunch and that fuels me through the work day just fine until I come home and eat for 2 hours or so before going to bed. Anything substantial for breakfast or lunch and I just get lethargic. Looks like I'm in the good company of a couple hard working blokes
Makes sense to me, as gastrointestinal tract is essentially a big muscle, digestion diverts energy from the rest of your body hence the tired feeling after a big meal.