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Age has caught up and I get my hormone levels tested this week. I'm looking for opinions on folk's HRT/TRT experiences. Worth it? Pain in the ass to maintain? Things to watch for?
Best delivery system? I dont really want to drive to town weekly for a shot or be dependent on a nurse to deliver it. I hear there's a chewable 3 times a day option and of course the gel patches.
Pros and Cons?
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Pinning it yourself is a piece of cake. Normally the Doc/Nurse will show you how. (Takes liternally 1-minute to do).
Long acting ester (cyp or eth) even once a week works. Some will split that into twice a week for less high's/low's.
Very simple.
All that other stuff sounds like a PIA (gel's, chewables??) ???
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I was on it for about 10 years.Got my doc to write a script and I pinned myself.She did bloodwork twice a year.Every now and then she would skip the bloodwork and I wouldn’t argue.You have to have a pretty good relationship with your doctor you can’t just show up one day and say give me test. I got off it about a year and half ago for health reasons.Blood was thick as shit even after doing things to thin it out. I am 63 and going forward with thick blood doesn’t sound like a good idea
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Appreciate the info! I didnt realize I could do the pinning myself...assumed it had to be done at a doctor's office.
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I was on it for about 10 years.Got my doc to write a script and I pinned myself.She did bloodwork twice a year.Every now and then she would skip the bloodwork and I wouldn’t argue.You have to have a pretty good relationship with your doctor you can’t just show up one day and say give me test. I got off it about a year and half ago for health reasons. Blood was thick as shit even after doing things to thin it out. I am 63 and going forward with thick blood doesn’t sound like a good idea
Very smart to get off of it if blood thickens with age and use.
I monitor mine closely, 4 times a years (bloods). All my stuff stays in range. I always ran a bit high (hematocrit=48) even before TRT.
(I do .5 cc a week only (125 mg's).
I stay at 48 now (hematocrit), but I do two low dose (coated) aspirins a day along with the TRT. Anything changes with age, I'm gladly jumping off.
Right now things are OK at age 56 w/ it.
Like any medication (or "bio-identicals") :o you have to monitor this stuff closely.
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Very smart to get off of it if blood thickens with age and use.
I monitor mine closely, 4 times a years (bloods). All my stuff stays in range. I always ran a bit high (hematocrit=48) even before TRT.
(I do .5 cc a week only (125 mg's).
I stay at 48 now (hematocrit), but I do two low dose (coated) aspirins a day along with the TRT. Anything changes with age, I'm gladly jumping off.
Right now things are OK at age 56 w/ it.
Like any medication (or "bio-identicals") :o you have to monitor this stuff closely.
yes very good to keep a close watch on things. I was donating and taking aspirin but still every time I gave blood the girl would twist and jerk the damn thing and always say “you sure got thick blood “ I was doing everything short of taking blood thinning medicine and if it came to that it didn’t make sense to stay on so I reluctantly got off.
I might add that since I got off about a year and half ago my blood flows very easy now and bp is down.
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Very smart to get off of it if blood thickens with age and use.
I monitor mine closely, 4 times a years (bloods). All my stuff stays in range. I always ran a bit high (hematocrit=48) even before TRT.
(I do .5 cc a week only (125 mg's).
I stay at 48 now (hematocrit), but I do two low dose (coated) aspirins a day along with the TRT. Anything changes with age, I'm gladly jumping off.
Right now things are OK at age 56 w/ it.
Like any medication (or "bio-identicals") :o you have to monitor this stuff closely.
How is your quality of life on it?
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Age has caught up and I get my hormone levels tested this week. I'm looking for opinions on folk's HRT/TRT experiences. Worth it? Pain in the ass to maintain? Things to watch for?
Best delivery system? I dont really want to drive to town weekly for a shot or be dependent on a nurse to deliver it. I hear there's a chewable 3 times a day option and of course the gel patches.
Pros and Cons?
How old are you?
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I certainly have no moral objections to Test. I messed around with Deca and Anavar back in the day. That said it seems like eventually something happens that forces you to come off. Vince is a pretty good example.
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Don`t be afraid to pin yourself.....I was at first.....it`s not a big deal at all.
I started my own TRT at 100 mgs. per week because a local clinic said they could provide it but when I went there they then said they couldn`t......fucking morons.
So after seeing my therapist she sent a rererral to them....haven`t been there yet but if they find my Test levels higher because of my own self administration I`ll probably be fucked.....we`ll see.
Haven`t been on it long enough to provide any feedback good or bad........sorry.
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500mgs a week or its not TRT
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How is your quality of life on it?
Its great honestly. But again, its not a "be all end all" that some think, where youre gonna grow new muscle, etc.
Its probably letting me hang on to what I have, but I did not gain any size/strength. I also trained for 38 years Natty before that.
Where of course a noob will put on some muscle w/ it. (Probably).
Just feel better all around (for now)...
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500mgs a week or its not TRT
I agree with this, if not more
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Ive been on it for probably 10 years. First with creme which was annoying to deal with. Went to Testopel pellets about 8 years ago. I see the doctor every 3.5 months for pellets. In and out in about 45 min and insurance covers all but $300. Some years it covers 100%. I'm happy with it.
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Consider using insulin pins to inject subcutaneous. Less/minimal nerve damage & scar tissue build up compared to intramuscular injection. 27ga are available online and make pinning very easy.
E: I'd probably do pellets if the choice was there
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Consider using insulin pins to inject subcutaneous. Less/minimal nerve damage & scar tissue build up compared to intramuscular injection. 27ga are available online and make pinning very easy.
E: I'd probably do pellets if the choice was there
This….this is the best way. I was pushing oil through true insulin syringes after pulling out the plunger and backloading it. Just have to have strong thumb muscles. My values ever changed going from muscle to fat injections.
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How old are you?
47...and feeling like 57
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47...and feeling like 57
Have you tried everything else - getting your wind, strength, diet, sleep etc in good shape? Ever tried real Tongkat Ali, shit like that?
I'd explore all that stuff before deciding on TRT.
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Age has caught up and I get my hormone levels tested this week. I'm looking for opinions on folk's HRT/TRT experiences. Worth it? Pain in the ass to maintain? Things to watch for?
Best delivery system? I dont really want to drive to town weekly for a shot or be dependent on a nurse to deliver it. I hear there's a chewable 3 times a day option and of course the gel patches.
Pros and Cons?
15 yrs no issues but you have to be willing to do the work. Eat clean, cardio, labs, etc.
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Have you tried everything else - getting your wind, strength, diet, sleep etc in good shape? Ever tried real Tongkat Ali, shit like that?
I'd explore all that stuff before deciding on TRT.
Forgive my ignorance but what is real tongkat?
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Have you tried everything else - getting your wind, strength, diet, sleep etc in good shape? Ever tried real Tongkat Ali, shit like that?
I'd explore all that stuff before deciding on TRT.
Tried a lot of stuff. Was doing ok till covid put me in the ICU for a month last year. Since then everything has fallen off a cliff...energy, stamina, libido, mental focus. HRT would be in combination with vitamin therapy and possible some adjustments to the thyroid.
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Tried a lot of stuff. Was doing ok till covid put me in the ICU for a month last year. Since then everything has fallen off a cliff...energy, stamina, libido, mental focus. HRT would be in combination with vitamin therapy and possible some adjustments to the thyroid.
Covid put you in ICU….obviously a very unhealthy individual, forget about TRT.
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Consider using insulin pins to inject subcutaneous. Less/minimal nerve damage & scar tissue build up compared to intramuscular injection. 27ga are available online and make pinning very easy.
E: I'd probably do pellets if the choice was there
I use slin-pins for all my injections. Sometimes in belly-fat (SubQ) lately in delts... Painless...
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I’ve been on about 7 years. I’m early 40’s and honestly probably started too early but not sure I’ll go off for a long time. Realistically, I’ll only go off when I see it’s detrimental to my health. I tried the gel for about a year and didn’t like it, especially since my youngest was in diapers and I changed them. I went to shots, around 160mg week, about six years ago. I get blood work at least twice a year but most of the time it’s three times since I get an annual physical too. Only issue I have is my red blood cell count gets high, around 18, so I donate blood every 60 days and have no problems. I’ve also had three “executive physicals, every two years for the last five years and will do another in January. Those are a two day physical complete with everything from blood work, to nuclear stress tests and calcium scoring among other things. I’m healthy, even cholesterol is down. I do cardio four to six times a week and exercise with not much more than body weight. I think my size is a little exaggerated for the amount of work I put in because of the test, but this far I would recommend it. I’d also weigh all other factors and discuss them all, even things you might be embarrassed about, before getting on it.
Never lie to your doctor or lawyer.
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I’ve been on about 7 years. I’m early 40’s and honestly probably started too early but not sure I’ll go off for a long time. Realistically, I’ll only go off when I see it’s detrimental to my health. I tried the gel for about a year and didn’t like it, especially since my youngest was in diapers and I changed them. I went to shots, around 160mg week, about six years ago. I get blood work at least twice a year but most of the time it’s three times since I get an annual physical too. Only issue I have is my red blood cell count gets high, around 18, so I donate blood every 60 days and have no problems. I’ve also had three “executive physicals, every two years for the last five years and will do another in January. Those are a two day physical complete with everything from blood work, to nuclear stress tests and calcium scoring among other things. I’m healthy, even cholesterol is down. I do cardio four to six times a week and exercise with not much more than body weight. I think my size is a little exaggerated for the amount of work I put in because of the test, but this far I would recommend it. I’d also weigh all other factors and discuss them all, even things you might be embarrassed about, before getting on it.
Never lie to your doctor or lawyer.
tell the truth to your doctor about steroids and your life insurance may become invalid.
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Very smart to get off of it if blood thickens with age and use.
I monitor mine closely, 4 times a years (bloods). All my stuff stays in range. I always ran a bit high (hematocrit=48) even before TRT.
(I do .5 cc a week only (125 mg's).
I stay at 48 now (hematocrit), but I do two low dose (coated) aspirins a day along with the TRT. Anything changes with age, I'm gladly jumping off.
Right now things are OK at age 56 w/ it.
Like any medication (or "bio-identicals") :o you have to monitor this stuff closely.
A 48 hematocrit puts you in the top ranks of undoped professional cyclists. maybe you should go buy a bike, haha
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He said HRT not just TRT that means bioidentical Human Growth Hormone therapy. I would say it's a money thing if you can afford to keep your test and HGH levels at 25 years old then absolutely do it but if you are a drunk slob it doesn't really matter anyway
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Covid put you in ICU….obviously a very unhealthy individual, forget about TRT.
:) What's funny is I had none of the comorbidity or age risks. I asked numerous docs why it hit my lungs so hard. He said, off the record, it was probably because the Chinks engineered it to take down white western men. That's a true story.
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:) What's funny is I had none of the comorbidity or age risks. I asked numerous docs why it hit my lungs so hard. He said, off the record, it was probably because the Chinks engineered it to take down white western men. That's a true story.
How can I schedule an appointment with this distinguished gentleman?
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He said HRT not just TRT that means bioidentical Human Growth Hormone therapy. I would say it's a money thing if you can afford to keep your test and HGH levels at 25 years old then absolutely do it but if you are a drunk slob it doesn't really matter anyway
You are a poster boy for the negative side effects of hGH.
You have facial bone enlargement (acromegaly).
You have the beginning signs of CHF.
You have edema, high cholesterol, and probably headed toward diabetes.
You of all people should not be giving medical advice. Being coy about your drug use and thinking you can outsmart the side effects of the drugs you take is going to put you in a coffin much sooner than later.
A short narrow coffin, but a coffin nonetheless.
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You are a poster boy for the negative side effects of hGH.
You have facial bone enlargement (acromegaly).
You have the beginning signs of CHF.
You have edema, high cholesterol, and probably headed toward diabetes.
You of all people should not be giving medical advice. Being coy about your drug use and thinking you can outsmart the side effects of the drugs you take is going to put you in a coffin much sooner than later.
A short narrow coffin, but a coffin nonetheless.
My total cholesterol is 137 it's actually considered low
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:) What's funny is I had none of the comorbidity or age risks. I asked numerous docs why it hit my lungs so hard. He said, off the record, it was probably because the Chinks engineered it to take down white western men. That's a true story.
Prob will be dead very soon, before your 50th birthday
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An article came out recently saying those with low T are hit harder by Covid.
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I do NOT like pushing oil through slin pics.....a full 3 CC syringe if I`m on cycle.....anything less is a waste.
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My total cholesterol is 137 it's actually considered low
Mortality rates are higher, (from those w/ low HDL and low total cholesterol) than people with high.
(Which is the opposite of what any Dr. is told to tell us).
Never trust the medical community unfortch, its just a money-grabbing machine...
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My total cholesterol is 137 it's actually considered low
Your HDL is low even though you exercise all the time. Your LDL isn't high but with the HDL low it makes a bad ratio. With all your other problems with anemia and swelling and high resting heartrate you should get yourself checked out.
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So I get accused of being unhealthy and having high cholesterol I point out I actually have low cholesterol and now that is supposedly even worse gtfo
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So I get accused of being unhealthy and having high cholesterol I point out I actually have low cholesterol and now that is supposedly even worse gtfo
I don't know if it is "worse" but it might not be as good as you think. Don't ignore all your other problems just because your total cholesterol is OK.
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I don't know if it is "worse" but it might not be as good as you think. Don't ignore all your other problems just because your total cholesterol is OK.
What other problems my BP is also in the ideal range. I get some ankle swelling after training legs because I have bad knees. My resting heart rate is right at the top of the normal range. I had some anemia issues related to my Crohns but it has been in remission for months despite not taking any of the 3 medications my gastro said I was supposed to take daily the rest of my life. Oh yeah and I spent yesterday running up and down a sandy beach dragging a kid on a boogie board despite my orthopedic telling me 3 years ago he needed to shave down the bones in my legs if I wanted to walk again without a cane. I am doing great
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So I get accused of being unhealthy and having high cholesterol I point out I actually have low cholesterol and now that is supposedly even worse gtfo
Your numbers look fine. I was just stating some of the things I've read about over the years of studying lipids, meds and similar.
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Your numbers look fine. I was just stating some of the things I've read about over the years of studying lipids, meds and similar.
The point is everyone assumes I have high BP, high cholesterol, and a high RBC blood count thick blood. I don't have any of those things
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Tried a lot of stuff. Was doing ok till covid put me in the ICU for a month last year. Since then everything has fallen off a cliff...energy, stamina, libido, mental focus. HRT would be in combination with vitamin therapy and possible some adjustments to the thyroid.
That's a rough outcome. Hope they put you right soon.
Testosterone increased my energy and aggressiveness (although I'm naturally a hot tempered guy). Didn't do shit for my sex drive. Actually reduced it marginally. HCG, on the other hand, put my nuts in overdrive. If I go on trt, I'm going to research HCG alongside T or just on it's own.
I'm not interested in GH. It looks like rocket fuel for cancer to me. Orals, I liked oxandrolone and didn't notice any sides at moderate doses.
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That's a rough outcome. Hope they put you right soon.
Testosterone increased my energy and aggressiveness (although I'm naturally a hot tempered guy). Didn't do shit for my sex drive. Actually reduced it marginally. HCG, on the other hand, put my nuts in overdrive. If I go on trt, I'm going to research HCG alongside T or just on it's own.
I'm not interested in GH. It looks like rocket fuel for cancer to me. Orals, I liked oxandrolone and didn't notice any sides at moderate doses.
Appreciate the comment.
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Appreciate the comment.
I wish you all the best in returning to good health, my friend. :) I am certain all here of good conscience are behind your recovery.
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The point is everyone assumes I have high BP, high cholesterol, and a high RBC blood count thick blood. I don't have any of those things
Sure you don't. Your resting heart rate of 120 is perfectly fine to
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He said HRT not just TRT that means bioidentical Human Growth Hormone therapy. I would say it's a money thing if you can afford to keep your test and HGH levels at 25 years old then absolutely do it but if you are a drunk slob it doesn't really matter anyway
HRT = hormone replacement therapy
Human Growth Hormone therapy is something totally different
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Your HDL is low even though you exercise all the time. Your LDL isn't high but with the HDL low it makes a bad ratio. With all your other problems with anemia and swelling and high resting heartrate you should get yourself checked out.
HDL is lowered by steroids although orals are the biggest culprit. Winstrol can lower your HDL to zero pretty quickly. Zero.
Regarding high red blood cells. I haven't researched it closely but some experts and doctors say there's probably no harm in it running a bit high. They advice against blood donation. I asked an experienced endo whether there's any proof that blood donation is healthy or leads to better outcomes in HRT patients and he said it's true we don't know but that "we just don't like seeing high numbers." How high can RBC get if you are at high altitude? They say the same kind of numbers from TRT are fine, you don't have people at high altitude donating blood.
HRT = hormone replacement therapy
Human Growth Hormone therapy is something totally different
They do differentiate between HRT and TRT. All the clinics offer GH too as part of HRT. Could include thyroid as well, and probably some other hormones like DHEA. If I had the opportunity I would use GH as well, many people on HRT love it of course. Over time it leads to a leaner body composition and many notice better sleep, better skin and so on. Should help joints and general recovery from injuries.
Personally I wouldn't worry about the potential cancer risk but some people are so paranoid they have lowered their protein intake and even eliminated milk products as milk protein increases IGF-1 and eventually cancer risk.
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The point is everyone assumes I have high BP, high cholesterol, and a high RBC blood count thick blood. I don't have any of those things
when you post a photo of a BP cuff monitor reading 247/164, I dont think the assumption is required.
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So I get accused of being unhealthy and having high cholesterol I point out I actually have low cholesterol and now that is supposedly even worse gtfo
I’m totally fine with you continuing your current drug abuse regimen and I’m sure the remainder of Getbig don’t care.
Like Derek Anthony, you won’t be missed.
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Forgive my ignorance but what is real tongkat?
Tongkat Ali is a root powder with the supposed ability to increase Test levels around 75-150 points or so. Google Andrew Huberman and tongkat ali to see where I got the info from. I don't usually buy into this kind of stuff, but this dude has been right before, IMO. I tried his sleep concoction of L Theanine, Magnesium Threonate, and Apigenin for a few months and it was f'n money, so I believe him.
My test levels are mid 500s, so not bad. Am trying this for 6 months and will get tested again.
When I say "real" tongkat, there's a ton of fake shit out there. I used the version from microingredients .com. $28 for 6 months, so it's a very inexpensive shot to try. Powder tasted like a combination of battery acid and ground pennies.
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Tongkat Ali is a root powder with the supposed ability to increase Test levels around 75-150 points or so. Google Andrew Huberman and tongkat ali to see where I got the info from. I don't usually buy into this kind of stuff, but this dude has been right before, IMO. I tried his sleep concoction of L Theanine, Magnesium Threonate, and Apigenin for a few months and it was f'n money, so I believe him.
My test levels are mid 500s, so not bad. Am trying this for 6 months and will get tested again.
When I say "real" tongkat, there's a ton of fake shit out there. I used the version from microingredients .com. $28 for 6 months, so it's a very inexpensive shot to try. Powder tasted like a combination of battery acid and ground pennies.
Fuck, you mean someone has the capacity to be right twice in their life?
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Tongkat Ali is a root powder with the supposed ability to increase Test levels around 75-150 points or so. Google Andrew Huberman
I saw Huberman say he's seen 400 point increase in total! Woah, it did pique my interest a bit although not enough to go look at the data. He also mentioned fadogia agrestis. One of these he said commonly increases testicle size. I really thought there are no herbs proven to reliably increase test but maybe that's wrong. If someone here is considering TRT it would be very interesting if they first tried these herbs and then got tested again.
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I saw Huberman say he's seen 400 point increase in total! Woah, it did pique my interest a bit although not enough to go look at the data. He also mentioned fadogia agrestis. One of these he said commonly increases testicle size. I really thought there are no herbs proven to reliably increase test but maybe that's wrong. If someone here is considering TRT it would be very interesting if they first tried these herbs and then got tested again.
Paul Dillet used it trying to hold onto his size post steroids
(https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/130819134335-tlc-wesley-warren-scrotum.jpg?q=x_0,y_0,h_2376,w_4225,c_fill/h_270,w_480)
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This thpe of setup is ideal for subq TRT. Backloading insulin syringes is a bitch.
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This thpe of setup is ideal for subq TRT. Backloading insulin syringes is a bitch.
People claim less scarring with insulin pins, fucks sake Im sure its worse, you end up shaking like a shitting dog trying to get the oil through the pin, its like using a fucking jackhammer
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HDL is lowered by steroids although orals are the biggest culprit. Winstrol can lower your HDL to zero pretty quickly. Zero.
Regarding high red blood cells. I haven't researched it closely but some experts and doctors say there's probably no harm in it running a bit high. They advice against blood donation. I asked an experienced endo whether there's any proof that blood donation is healthy or leads to better outcomes in HRT patients and he said it's true we don't know but that "we just don't like seeing high numbers." How high can RBC get if you are at high altitude? They say the same kind of numbers from TRT are fine, you don't have people at high altitude donating blood
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2599997/#:~:text=As%20Viault%20demonstrated%20more%20than,the%20individual%27s%20arterial%20oxygen%20saturation.
Looks like the hemoglobin goes up about 2 points at very high altitudes. I think there are a lot of confounding factors though. If you've got high hemoglobin from what you're taking, also eating a ton of calories, on insulin, on GH, then there are so many variables that it gets difficult to decide what to do about a high hemoglobin. I think a low dose aspirin and donating blood if levels too high probably helps more than it hurts.
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Fuck, you mean someone has the capacity to be right twice in their life?
In the context of supplements that actually work, it’s like a world record.
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In the context of supplements that actually work, it’s like a world record.
yes, thats about right ;D
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People claim less scarring with insulin pins, fucks sake Im sure its worse, you end up shaking like a shitting dog trying to get the oil through the pin, its like using a fucking jackhammer
^^^THIS......hated using them and quickly never did again.
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I’m totally fine with you continuing your current drug abuse regimen and I’m sure the remainder of Getbig don’t care.
Like Derek Anthony, you won’t be missed.
You people are so ignorant claim I am obviously abusing things that you claim cause conditions I don't have when I point out I don't have any of these conditions it's excuses for abuse lol gtfo you just don't know what you are talking about
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You people are so ignorant claim I am obviously abusing things that you claim cause conditions I don't have when I point out I don't have any of these conditions it's excuses for abuse lol gtfo you just don't know what you are talking about
we react to what you post
balls in your court
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You people are so ignorant claim I am obviously abusing things that you claim cause conditions I don't have when I point out I don't have any of these conditions it's excuses for abuse lol gtfo you just don't know what you are talking about
Every addict and abuser says they aren’t an addict or an abuser. Same story, different day
That being said, you will not live too long, going to be dead soon way before your 50th bd, plan to adopt your son to a getbigger so he can take care of him
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You people are so ignorant claim I am obviously abusing things that you claim cause conditions I don't have when I point out I don't have any of these conditions it's excuses for abuse lol gtfo you just don't know what you are talking about
You are posting evidence of blatant drug abuse and health problems on a message board filled with people who think you're retarded.
What exactly are you expecting, Corky?
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People claim less scarring with insulin pins, fucks sake Im sure its worse, you end up shaking like a shitting dog trying to get the oil through the pin, its like using a fucking jackhammer
I buy the slin pins with a 25g needle.
Just swap to a new needle and trash the barrel. No need to back load or dull the needle.
They are like 25 cents.
I've never had a problem getting gear through a 25g.
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I use a 23 G one inch needle.....perfect for delts and glutes.......for me anyway.
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Tongkat Ali is a root powder with the supposed ability to increase Test levels around 75-150 points or so. Google Andrew Huberman and tongkat ali to see where I got the info from. I don't usually buy into this kind of stuff, but this dude has been right before, IMO. I tried his sleep concoction of L Theanine, Magnesium Threonate, and Apigenin for a few months and it was f'n money, so I believe him.
My test levels are mid 500s, so not bad. Am trying this for 6 months and will get tested again.
When I say "real" tongkat, there's a ton of fake shit out there. I used the version from microingredients .com. $28 for 6 months, so it's a very inexpensive shot to try. Powder tasted like a combination of battery acid and ground pennies.
I’m going to get some of this and try it. I got off trt a while back and my test is shot.It is certainly worth a try.Please let us know how this works for you or if you come up with any other info on it.Thanks
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I’m going to get some of this and try it. I got off trt a while back and my test is shot.It is certainly worth a try.Please let us know how this works for you or if you come up with any other info on it.Thanks
I just ordered some of that and a few other things.
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I just ordered some of that and a few other things.
awesome rob please keep us informed how this works for you
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I buy the slin pins with a 25g needle.
Just swap to a new needle and trash the barrel. No need to back load or dull the needle.
They are like 25 cents.
I've never had a problem getting gear through a 25g.
I'm unsure about the gauge I have in the picture. Maybe it's a little thicker than a regular slin pin. But the oil flows suprisingly easily through these. I shot some oil base test, tren or whatever into my delt, 1ml in less than 10 seconds. Easy and smooth. What is a bitch is using larger barrels lwith plastic and rubber components. The fubber slows things down. I prefer the cheap plastic only syringes, much easier to push through. Actually I think the insulin syringe is also easier/faster to push through than a wider syringe, I'm sure there's a physics explanation. :D
18 gauge needle for a 2 second 3ml withdraw :D
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I'm unsure about the gauge I have in the picture. Maybe it's a little thicker than a regular slin pin. But the oil flows suprisingly easily through these. I shot some oil base test, tren or whatever into my delt, 1ml in less than 10 seconds. Easy and smooth. What is a bitch is using barrels with plastic and rubber components. The fubber slows things down. I prefer the cheap plastic only syringes, much easier to push through. Actually I think the insulin syringe is also easier/faster to push through than a wider syringe, I'm sure there's a physics explanation. :D
If you have used 5ml syringes you know thats true
More surface are inside the syringe
PS I was only injecting 1.5ml, I had no 2ml syringes.
Im no hanky
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If you have used 5ml syringes you know thats true
More surface are inside the syringe
PS I was only injecting 1.5ml, I had no 2ml syringes.
Im no hanky
Several years back I used 10ml syringes, when I did 5.5-6ml shots, 6ml was the most I ever shot into my glute. I could just barely fit 5.5ml in a 5ml syringe :D
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18 to draw 25 to inject. Also, I put my ampule in hot water for several minutes. That Iranian test is thick but good.
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You people are so ignorant claim I am obviously abusing things that you claim cause conditions I don't have when I point out I don't have any of these conditions it's excuses for abuse lol gtfo you just don't know what you are talking about
You’re a chronic liar and drug abuser. Coming off drugs the week before a custody hearing is not heroic, it’s just patently dishonest…par for the course for a liar like you.
If your bloodwork was decent, you would be posting it all over Getbig, not clipping little snippets and being in thick-headed denial about the damage you are doing to yourself.
In the end, I don’t care, you’re not the type of person who will be mourned. On your death bed you can show your son your last place medals and some photos of you from Getbig. Hopefully by ten years old he will understand your vanity, ego, and narcissistic personality enough to know he will be better off with you gone.
Do you really think you know more about chronic heart failure than the people on here telling you that you’re killing yourself ? It’s rhetorical, this isn’t a dialogue, consider it the beginning of your Getbig countdown.
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You people are so ignorant claim I am obviously abusing things that you claim cause conditions I don't have when I point out I don't have any of these conditions it's excuses for abuse lol gtfo you just don't know what you are talking about
What doc prescribes a full cycle as TRT?
No doctor would prescribe 500 mg of test as TRT.
Drug addict
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You’re a chronic liar and drug abuser. Coming off drugs the week before a custody hearing is not heroic, it’s just patently dishonest…par for the course for a liar like you.
If your bloodwork was decent, you would be posting it all over Getbig, not clipping little snippets and being in thick-headed denial about the damage you are doing to yourself.
In the end, I don’t care, you’re not the type of person who will be mourned. On your death bed you can show your son your last place medals and some photos of you from Getbig. Hopefully by ten years old he will understand your vanity, ego, and narcissistic personality enough to know he will be better off with you gone.
Do you really think you know more about chronic heart failure than the people on here telling you that you’re killing yourself ? It’s rhetorical, this isn’t a dialogue, consider it the beginning of your Getbig countdown.
Boom.
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It’s basically free:
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What other problems my BP is also in the ideal range. I get some ankle swelling after training legs because I have bad knees. My resting heart rate is right at the top of the normal range. I had some anemia issues related to my Crohns but it has been in remission for months despite not taking any of the 3 medications my gastro said I was supposed to take daily the rest of my life. Oh yeah and I spent yesterday running up and down a sandy beach dragging a kid on a boogie board despite my orthopedic telling me 3 years ago he needed to shave down the bones in my legs if I wanted to walk again without a cane. I am doing great
How long do you think it will take for you to put your tachycardia into remission?
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You’re a chronic liar and drug abuser. Coming off drugs the week before a custody hearing is not heroic, it’s just patently dishonest…par for the course for a liar like you.
If your bloodwork was decent, you would be posting it all over Getbig, not clipping little snippets and being in thick-headed denial about the damage you are doing to yourself.
In the end, I don’t care, you’re not the type of person who will be mourned. On your death bed you can show your son your last place medals and some photos of you from Getbig. Hopefully by ten years old he will understand your vanity, ego, and narcissistic personality enough to know he will be better off with you gone.
Do you really think you know more about chronic heart failure than the people on here telling you that you’re killing yourself ? It’s rhetorical, this isn’t a dialogue, consider it the beginning of your Getbig countdown.
Holy fuck…
Nothing but facts.
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Holy fuck…
Nothing but facts.
She eloquently states these things.
People wonder why we are hard on him.
She sees it too.
There is a reason he does what he does.
It's a personality disorder.
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What doc prescribes a full cycle as TRT?
No doctor would prescribe 500 mg of test as TRT.
Drug addict
Nope. I asked and it is one cc of 200 mg per cc, every two weeks. I think I got that correct. My levels are quite low but I have other problems that prevent me from being treated with TRT right now and for who knows how long.
I have talked with men that are on TRT and they tell me it helps with mood swings, energy levels and even sleep. I bet 500 mg a week is a LOT and would make me much stronger and muscularly larger than bhanky. ;) ;D
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People claim less scarring with insulin pins, fucks sake Im sure its worse, you end up shaking like a shitting dog trying to get the oil through the pin, its like using a fucking jackhammer
Less scarring because you’re not injecting into muscle. Subcutaneous administration is more sustainable, doesn’t matter if you use an insulin pin or an 18ga to do it
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This isn’t a game with your health Bhank.
If your doctor said your legs are fucked you don’t then go and bloat out to 230 doing squats.
All it is going to take is one of your numerous maladies to bring you to your knees.
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It’s basically free:
Didnt research that brand so am wary. Sticking with micro ingredients site - also bought powdered COQ10, and mag glycinate.
Cycling 500mg 2x daily 5 days on 2 days off
The mag glyc and tongkat are easily the two worst tasting things i have ever had
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A 48 hematocrit puts you in the top ranks of undoped professional cyclists. maybe you should go buy a bike, haha
48 is pretty average here in US. 50 is the high-end of normal.
Once outside of 50 on high end, people need to start making changes...
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^^^THIS......hated using them and quickly never did again.
The test I get from compound pharma, flows right thru a slin-pin, zero issues. (mct oil is so much "thinner" than many of the others).
Plus at .5 CC, thats nothing an only takes a second.
But yeah, 2-3 ml with a thicker oil (Sesame, etc) forget it..
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Nope. I asked and it is one cc of 200 mg per cc, every two weeks. I think I got that correct. My levels are quite low but I have other problems that prevent me from being treated with TRT right now and for who knows how long.
I have talked with men that are on TRT and they tell me it helps with mood swings, energy levels and even sleep. I bet 500 mg a week is a LOT and would make me much stronger and muscularly larger than bhanky. ;) ;D
If it would get you off your crutches would you do it? Think man anti inflammatory muscle, tendon, and ligament healing properties
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Several years back I used 10ml syringes, when I did 5.5-6ml shots, 6ml was the most I ever shot into my glute. I could just barely fit 5.5ml in a 5ml syringe :D
As you get older and scar tissue builds up you lose a taste for high volume injections its seems like you nic something more often perhaps due to more vascularity who knows but your appetite for lumps goes down
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If it would get you off your crutches would you do it? Think man anti inflammatory muscle, tendon, and ligament healing properties
How much GH are you using these days?
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Tongkat Ali is a root powder with the supposed ability to increase Test levels around 75-150 points or so. Google Andrew Huberman and tongkat ali to see where I got the info from. I don't usually buy into this kind of stuff, but this dude has been right before, IMO. I tried his sleep concoction of L Theanine, Magnesium Threonate, and Apigenin for a few months and it was f'n money, so I believe him.
My test levels are mid 500s, so not bad. Am trying this for 6 months and will get tested again.
When I say "real" tongkat, there's a ton of fake shit out there. I used the version from microingredients .com. $28 for 6 months, so it's a very inexpensive shot to try. Powder tasted like a combination of battery acid and ground pennies.
Thanks pal. I'm familiar with Andrew. I think he is also a big advocate of fadogia agrestis if I'm not mistaken.
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Tongkat Ali is a root powder with the supposed ability to increase Test levels around 75-150 points or so. Google Andrew Huberman and tongkat ali to see where I got the info from. I don't usually buy into this kind of stuff, but this dude has been right before, IMO. I tried his sleep concoction of L Theanine, Magnesium Threonate, and Apigenin for a few months and it was f'n money, so I believe him.
My test levels are mid 500s, so not bad. Am trying this for 6 months and will get tested again.
When I say "real" tongkat, there's a ton of fake shit out there. I used the version from microingredients .com. $28 for 6 months, so it's a very inexpensive shot to try. Powder tasted like a combination of battery acid and ground pennies.
I did this for a month or so and it also worked for me
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Bhanky,
With your knowledge you should hire on at the cardiac unit in your local hospital.
You could get those lazy heart patients doing some heavy squatting and deadlifting and cure them.
You could refer them to your bio-hormone source for meds.
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As you get older and scar tissue builds up you lose a taste for high volume injections its seems like you nic something more often perhaps due to more vascularity who knows but your appetite for lumps goes down
says the guy on TRT... ::)