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Title: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 16, 2023, 05:53:21 PM
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Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: AbrahamG on January 16, 2023, 05:56:14 PM
Seriously?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rambone on January 16, 2023, 05:57:35 PM
Guy is a great bodybuilding story teller. Also seemed pretty sharp although I guess he has had drug problems in the past
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Royalty on January 16, 2023, 06:01:36 PM
This is actually quite shocking.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: IroNat on January 16, 2023, 06:04:42 PM
Who?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 16, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
Seriously?
Something regarding ibogaine, he has been treating people with ibogaine for years now, but I guess Something happened with someone he was treating, they ended up dieing, he's been charged.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: AbrahamG on January 16, 2023, 06:18:17 PM
Something regarding ibogaine, he has been treating people with ibogaine for years now, but I guess Something happened with someone he was treating, they ended up dieing, he's been charged.

Just read up on it. Palumbo implies he knows who died. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Palumboism on January 16, 2023, 06:21:11 PM


Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Palumboism on January 16, 2023, 06:28:23 PM
Here he is talking about the drug he's accused of giving to the person who died.  If convicted he could get twenty years.

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: WalterWhite on January 16, 2023, 07:21:17 PM
Friday, January 13, 2023
Westminster Man Indicted for Distribution of a Controlled Substance Resulting in Death

DENVER – The United States Attorney’s Office for the District of Colorado announces that Ameen Alai, age 49, of Westminster, has been indicted on one count of distribution of ibogaine, a Schedule I controlled substance, resulting in death.

According to the indictment, on or about March 19, 2021, the defendant, also known as “Adam Powars,” knowingly and intentionally distributed a mixture and substance containing a detectable amount of ibogaine, the use of which resulted in the death of an individual on or about March 19, 2021.

If convicted, this charge carries a penalty of 20 years to life in prison. The charge contained in the indictment is an allegation, and the defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.

The defendant made his initial appearance before Magistrate Judge S. Kato Crews on January 12, 2023. 

The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Rocky Mountain Division and the HIDTA Front Range Task Force (FRTF) conducted the investigation in this case. The United States Marshals Service took the defendant into custody after a 3-month fugitive investigation. The prosecution is being handled by Assistant United States Attorney Cyrus Y. Chung.

CASE NUMBER: 22-cr-00339-RM
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 16, 2023, 08:12:38 PM
Something tells me the nickname "the Mad Scientist " might not be the best thing for him when this goes to trial.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: kcb5150 on January 16, 2023, 08:48:55 PM
Just read up on it. Palumbo implies he knows who died. Any ideas?

I read it had to do with a death on 3/19/21. Andy Haman died in Colorado on that date but idk the circumstances or if he dealt with Ameen. Any other ideas?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rusty Trombone on January 16, 2023, 09:22:35 PM
I read it had to do with a death on 3/19/21. Andy Haman died in Colorado on that date but idk the circumstances or if he dealt with Ameen. Any other idea?

Well then it must be that.

Guru Sheikh Ahmed Shaman killed this Andy Haman(whoever df that was) "treating" him for some addiction with Ibogaine, which is a dissociative psychedelic retardedly used as a mambo jumbo treatment for addiction
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Royalty on January 16, 2023, 09:40:13 PM
It appears that Ameen definitely didn’t intend to kill this person. I think that Ameen’s lawyer will clear him of the murder charge. But Ameen will probably get convinced of the distribution charge.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: stingray on January 16, 2023, 10:55:45 PM
Well then it must be that.

Guru Sheikh Ahmed Shaman killed this Andy Haman(whoever df that was) "treating" him for some addiction with Ibogaine, which is a dissociative psychedelic retardedly used as a mambo jumbo treatment for addiction

Never heard of this Haman  bloke but it says he died from a clot from surgery?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: BB on January 16, 2023, 11:00:49 PM
Friday, January 13, 2023
Westminster Man Indicted for Distribution of a Controlled Substance Resulting in Death

DENVER – The United States Attorney’s Office for the District of Colorado announces that Ameen Alai, age 49, of Westminster, has been indicted on one count of distribution of ibogaine, a Schedule I controlled substance, resulting in death.

According to the indictment, on or about March 19, 2021, the defendant, also known as “Adam Powars,” knowingly and intentionally distributed a mixture and substance containing a detectable amount of ibogaine, the use of which resulted in the death of an individual on or about March 19, 2021.

If convicted, this charge carries a penalty of 20 years to life in prison. The charge contained in the indictment is an allegation, and the defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.

The defendant made his initial appearance before Magistrate Judge S. Kato Crews on January 12, 2023. 

The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Rocky Mountain Division and the HIDTA Front Range Task Force (FRTF) conducted the investigation in this case. The United States Marshals Service took the defendant into custody after a 3-month fugitive investigation. The prosecution is being handled by Assistant United States Attorney Cyrus Y. Chung.

CASE NUMBER: 22-cr-00339-RM

Wow, this is a new day. They're shifting the personal responsibility on to dealers more and more now, and not just for the major drugs, but these esoteric ones. They better hope that regular people still don't give a shit about bodybuilding, or we could actually see gurus being charged with steroid deaths now.

Ameen better hope they can whittle it down, and then take what is offered.

Also - "a 3-month fugitive investigation". This isn't long at all, and Ameen was supposedly one of the smarter guys.

 
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Royalty on January 16, 2023, 11:12:31 PM
This guy was no stranger to buying & injecting drugs

Nice pointy delt
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: BB on January 16, 2023, 11:40:41 PM



Palumbo is kinda foul for that thumbnail. Did he really have to put the big captured over his friend's face like that?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Royalty on January 16, 2023, 11:41:01 PM
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Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Royalty on January 16, 2023, 11:44:20 PM
Palumbo is kinda foul for that thumbnail. Did he really have to put the big captured over his friend's face like that?

And Dave did a RXmuscle video that promoted the drug that Ameen was selling 

You know that Haman watched that RXmuscle video, and then reached out to Ameen
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 17, 2023, 12:48:30 AM
Something tells me the nickname "the Mad Scientist " might not be the best thing for him when this goes to trial.
No shit! ;D
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Royalty on January 17, 2023, 01:07:14 AM
Something tells me the nickname "the Mad Scientist " might not be the best thing for him when this goes to trial.

Make sure that the jury sees pictures of the victim
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: falco on January 17, 2023, 02:09:07 AM
Wow, this is a new day. They're shifting the personal responsibility on to dealers more and more now, and not just for the major drugs, but these esoteric ones. They better hope that regular people still don't give a shit about bodybuilding, or we could actually see gurus being charged with steroid deaths now.

Ameen better hope they can whittle it down, and then take what is offered.

Also - "a 3-month fugitive investigation". This isn't long at all, and Ameen was supposedly one of the smarter guys.

 

Interesting approach. Will Pfizer be accountable for all the "sudden deaths"?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: wes on January 17, 2023, 02:13:48 AM
 ???

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Gym Rat on January 17, 2023, 02:20:38 AM
Anything for "views and clicks" w/ Plaumbo.

Very odd individual...  ::)
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: a_pupil on January 17, 2023, 02:55:53 AM
Gurus  ::)
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Dalnet on January 17, 2023, 02:59:49 AM
Something tells me the nickname "the Mad Scientist " might not be the best thing for him when this goes to trial.

"Your honor... my client, the Mad Scientist, is not a crazy killer! I rest my case"
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rambone on January 17, 2023, 03:23:00 AM
Palumbo is kinda foul for that thumbnail. Did he really have to put the big captured over his friend's face like that?

Agreed. Dave will verbally suck his cock while he’s on the show but then will agree to a thumbnail like this for clicks. Typical worm who will ironically be worm food soon
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: youandme on January 17, 2023, 03:38:32 AM
Yeah wasn’t Dave promoting Ibogaine? ???
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Royalty on January 17, 2023, 03:39:59 AM
Yeah wasn’t Dave promoting Ibogaine? ???

Yes. And he had Ameen discussing it on the RXMuscle broadcast
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: affeman on January 17, 2023, 03:41:49 AM
So Shelby Starnes and Chad Nicholls must be charged as serial killers then? ???
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Palumboism on January 17, 2023, 03:43:09 AM
Anything for "views and clicks" w/ Plaumbo.

Very odd individual...  ::)

Dave's had Ameen on his show many times.  The video is very revealing about the type of person Dave is and how the whole industry operates. 
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: wes on January 17, 2023, 03:43:17 AM
Gurus  ::)
Yeah,no shit as if anyone needs one other than to use as a drug supplier.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: a_pupil on January 17, 2023, 03:59:35 AM
Yeah,no shit as if anyone needs one other than to use as a drug supplier.

Haman was a vet in the game. It boggles the mind that with his experience, he'd still trust a bro scientist with such sketchy, weird compounds
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: affeman on January 17, 2023, 03:59:56 AM
I just googled the stuff, it's over-the-counter in most European countries, you can buy it as a herbal supplement over here just like Kratom, Tongkat Ali and other stuff like that lol

https://www.kopfnote.at/products/iboga-wurzelrinde-tabernanthe-iboga
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: wes on January 17, 2023, 04:04:25 AM
Haman was a vet in the game. It boggles the mind that with his experience, he'd still trust a bro scientist with such sketchy, weird compounds
Yeah,and have someone tell him the exact time to eat his oatmeal.  :D

Yeah,Andy didn`t quite  think that one through.

RIP
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on January 17, 2023, 04:09:52 AM
So Shelby Starnes and Chad Nicholls must be charged as serial killers then? ???

criminal charges are excessive but i think civil litigation is appropriate
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: beakdoctor on January 17, 2023, 05:12:33 AM
Interesting approach. Will Pfizer be accountable for all the "sudden deaths"?

No. Pfizer was granted "immunity" although their vaccine couldn't.  Pun intended.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on January 17, 2023, 05:35:56 AM
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Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: tim22 on January 17, 2023, 06:47:13 AM
No. Pfizer was granted "immunity" although their vaccine couldn't.  Pun intended.
Excessive? It's just like going after drug dealers selling fentynol laced drugs.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 17, 2023, 07:17:06 AM
YOUKNOW AMEEN
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Super Natural on January 17, 2023, 07:55:10 AM
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Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rambone on January 17, 2023, 08:54:26 AM
"Your honor... my client, the Mad Scientist, is not a crazy killer! I rest my case"

Lmao! So good. Read this in Lionel Hutz’s voice
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Wayne Tracker on January 17, 2023, 09:33:44 AM
All these "guru's" who are advising people how to use drugs are essentially practicing medicine without a license

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Palumboism on January 17, 2023, 12:59:14 PM
It is Andy Haman death that Ameen is being charged for.  On the death certificate for Andy, Ibogaine overdose was the cause.

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: joswift on January 17, 2023, 01:47:35 PM
It is Andy Haman death that Ameen is being charged for.  On the death certificate for Andy, Ibogaine overdose was the cause.



Harman was a fucking jerk
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: pamith on January 17, 2023, 02:29:18 PM
Palumbo is kinda foul for that thumbnail. Did he really have to put the big captured over his friend's face like that?
Lmfao
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: OlympiaGym on January 17, 2023, 02:37:44 PM
I don’t know if intent is an element of the crime he was charged with as it does not appear to be murder that he’s being charged with. More prosecutions like this could jeopardize the coaching business. Civil suits would probably be even better given the lower burden of proof in those cases. And given the liberal discovery rules in most courts the gurus’ practices would be disclosed for all to see. These guys could easily be bankrupted if a few families of dead bodybuilders brought civil suits. They’d have to find the right lawyer though since I assume most of these guys are essentially judgment proof and there’s no insurance to cover this kind of claim.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: tim22 on January 17, 2023, 03:06:39 PM
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Haman was a vet in the game. It boggles the mind that with his experience, he'd still trust a bro scientist with such sketchy, weird compounds
It just goes to show you people aren't always as they appear . A family man he was an addict.I think it goes into the industry with slot of these guys risky behavior not stopping at just steroids. All kinds of stimulants and other recreation drugs.
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Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: OlympiaGym on January 17, 2023, 03:10:26 PM
I just googled the stuff, it's over-the-counter in most European countries, you can buy it as a herbal supplement over here just like Kratom, Tongkat Ali and other stuff like that lol

https://www.kopfnote.at/products/iboga-wurzelrinde-tabernanthe-iboga

In finished form it’s a Schedule I drug, same as heroin. I assume that’s what he sent the victim and then to compound matters he set out a protocol to take the drug. I’m assuming there’s a solid paper trail if they’re prosecuting him. He’s in trouble. A civil suit will probably follow as well.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Dalnet on January 17, 2023, 03:16:47 PM
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Haman was a vet in the game. It boggles the mind that with his experience, he'd still trust a bro scientist with such sketchy, weird compounds
It just goes to show you people aren't always as they appear . A family man he was an addict.I think it goes into the industry with slot of these guys risky behavior not stopping at just steroids. All kinds of stimulants and other recreation drugs.

I suppose counteracting high dosages brings about a plethora of crap like not sleeping well - so you turn to sleepers/benzos. Being in pain so you turn to opiates. Before you know it you need uppers in order to counteract the drowsiness to get yourself focused. These guys end up being walking chemical factories. It's a slippery slope.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Palumboism on January 17, 2023, 03:56:47 PM
I suppose counteracting high dosages brings about a plethora of crap like not sleeping well - so you turn to sleepers/benzos. Being in pain so you turn to opiates. Before you know it you need uppers in order to counteract the drowsiness to get yourself focused. These guys end up being walking chemical factories. It's a slippery slope.

 The purpose of Ibogaine that Ameen was recommending is opiate addiction.  Andy probably got addicted opiate pain killers and wanted to kick the addiction. 

Ameen would not buy or provide the Ibogaine, but he would assist in administering it.  He charged $20K for his services.

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on January 17, 2023, 04:31:44 PM
Excessive? It's just like going after drug dealers selling fentynol laced drugs.

right, i think its absurd to charge them w murdr too.  increase the sentencing guidelines for distribution of fentanyl, dont stretch the definition of murder/manslaughter to apply to the act of selling drugs just to seem "tough on crime"
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on January 17, 2023, 04:33:57 PM
The purpose of Ibogaine that Ameen was recommending is opiate addiction.  Andy probably got addicted opiate pain killers and wanted to kick the addiction. 

Ameen would not buy or provide the Ibogaine, but he would assist in administering it.

ahh ok this changes things, yeah for better or for worse that easily qualifies as murder/manslaughter
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: a_pupil on January 17, 2023, 04:39:54 PM
The purpose of Ibogaine that Ameen was recommending is opiate addiction.  Andy probably got addicted opiate pain killers and wanted to kick the addiction. 

Ameen would not buy or provide the Ibogaine, but he would assist in administering it.  He charged $20K for his services.

 :o

Hopefully this'll be the end of the "guru"/drug expert era.

the 90s guys looked 10x better than the current crop and the most they had were personal trainers to make sure they're on point in the gym.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: OlympiaGym on January 17, 2023, 04:50:29 PM
The purpose of Ibogaine that Ameen was recommending is opiate addiction.  Andy probably got addicted opiate pain killers and wanted to kick the addiction. 

Ameen would not buy or provide the Ibogaine, but he would assist in administering it.  He charged $20K for his services.

Why would he be charged with distribution unless he was somehow part of the supply chain?

The actual charge is illegal distribution of a Schedule I substance, resulting in death not manslaughter or murder as everyone here keeps referencing. The elements of the crime he’s being charged with are different. Also, it’s interesting that this is a federal prosecution not a state one. Wonder if they’re offering him a deal to get the supplier.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 17, 2023, 06:22:30 PM
So Is Nick trigily the only guru/couch that hasn't had any criminal charges so far ?

Even Douchete has a criminal record and
lost the privilege to walk on American soil.....


WoooSHHHHHHHHHH The Industry
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Palumboism on January 17, 2023, 06:30:21 PM
:o

Hopefully this'll be the end of the "guru"/drug expert era.

the 90s guys looked 10x better than the current crop and the most they had were personal trainers to make sure they're on point in the gym.

The guru industry will have strong growth.  It will parallel the growth in pro cards.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Bevo on January 17, 2023, 06:31:39 PM
So Shelby Starnes and Chad Nicholls must be charged as serial killers then? ???

Shelby should be charged as a serial killer just for having that name that is meant for a hot blonde girl, not a bald fucking moron
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: ChristopherA on January 17, 2023, 06:46:32 PM
:o

Hopefully this'll be the end of the "guru"/drug expert era.

the 90s guys looked 10x better than the current crop and the most they had were personal trainers to make sure they're on point in the gym.
Why would it? This has nothing to do with bodybuilding.  He was treating a guys opiate addiction
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: AbrahamG on January 17, 2023, 07:05:33 PM
Why would it? This has nothing to do with bodybuilding.  He was treating a guys opiate addiction

Fuck him and Haman both.  Retards.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: a_pupil on January 18, 2023, 01:30:18 AM
Why would it? This has nothing to do with bodybuilding.  He was treating a guys opiate addiction

It shows that you're risking death taking medical advice from these guys LARPing as experts. Ameen was supposed to be one of the brightest ones.

We already had the Shelby starnes stuff last year.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 18, 2023, 02:19:20 AM
The purpose of Ibogaine that Ameen was recommending is opiate addiction.  Andy probably got addicted opiate pain killers and wanted to kick the addiction. 

Ameen would not buy or provide the Ibogaine, but he would assist in administering it.  He charged $20K for his services.

I remember Leo saying Ameen would buy Ibogaine off some well known vendor on the net. He spent a hundred bucks and then sold it to desperate addicts for 2 or 3K. Something like that. Ameen said only he had the real high quality stuff but it was all bullshit.

If I'm not mistaken Ameen adviced that guy with the huge belly, forgot his name, on Ibogaine. I remember guys on the net were very critical since the guy had all the contraindications for taking a drug like this. Now I remember the name, Lenny. But he apparently survived.

I've read that an Ibogaine trip is absolute horror, a real nightmare. I don't know if I'd dare to take it even if I "needed" it. And apparently it doesn't work that well. Leo said Ameen is still an addict. He takes ibogaine when he needs to stay clean for a couple of days, like when traveling.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 18, 2023, 02:22:13 AM
It shows that you're risking death taking medical advice from these guys LARPing as experts. Ameen was supposed to be one of the brightest ones.

We already had the Shelby starnes stuff last year.

To me he always seemed like the dumbest one. I was always like "wtf can't you guys see he doesn't know anything?"
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Dalnet on January 18, 2023, 02:35:05 AM
I remember Leo saying Ameen would buy Ibogaine off some well known vendor on the net. He spent a hundred bucks and then sold it to desperate addicts for 2 or 3K. Something like that. Ameen said only he had the real high quality stuff but it was all bullshit.

If I'm not mistaken Ameen adviced that guy with the huge belly, forgot his name, on Ibogaine. I remember guys on the net were very critical since the guy had all the contraindications for taking a drug like this. Now I remember the name, Lenny. But he apparently survived.

I've read that an Ibogaine trip is absolute horror, a real nightmare. I don't know if I'd dare to take it even if I "needed" it. And apparently it doesn't work that well. Leo said Ameen is still an addict. He takes ibogaine when he needs to stay clean for a couple of days, like when traveling.

I'm no expert on opioids but surely it would be easier to take a batch of prescription tramadol with you if you're travelling? Isn't it a synthetic opioid so therefore would stop withdrawal symptoms in a safer way than tripping your brains out? Maybe tramadol just isn't strong enough for them?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Dalnet on January 18, 2023, 02:44:56 AM
:o

Hopefully this'll be the end of the "guru"/drug expert era.

the 90s guys looked 10x better than the current crop and the most they had were personal trainers to make sure they're on point in the gym.

I think the culture back then would have looked down upon a bodybuilder needing 'help'. Getting shit done with your physique was always about your own personal journey. Yeah you get advice from the gym bros/manager when you start out but it's a journey that's most enjoyable on your own. My first cycle was a shitty winny 12 week thing - because I was scared of needles and didn't want to get "too big" and didn't want to bloat up LOL you know what I mean when you're that age and dumb you think you have the potential to look world class if you jumped on everything.

The only coaches bodybuilders probably needed were posing coaches like Shawn Ray had that buddy of his. Arnold took dancing/posing classes with some kind of choreographer. The training itself was just gym bros telling each other and trying their own thing.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: a_pupil on January 18, 2023, 02:46:00 AM
I remember Leo saying Ameen would buy Ibogaine off some well known vendor on the net. He spent a hundred bucks and then sold it to desperate addicts for 2 or 3K. Something like that. Ameen said only he had the real high quality stuff but it was all bullshit.

If I'm not mistaken Ameen adviced that guy with the huge belly, forgot his name, on Ibogaine. I remember guys on the net were very critical since the guy had all the contraindications for taking a drug like this. Now I remember the name, Lenny. But he apparently survived.

I've read that an Ibogaine trip is absolute horror, a real nightmare. I don't know if I'd dare to take it even if I "needed" it. And apparently it doesn't work that well. Leo said Ameen is still an addict. He takes ibogaine when he needs to stay clean for a couple of days, like when traveling.

Big Lenny has bulletproof genetics. If he didn't get into steroids, he'd have made it to 100.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: a_pupil on January 18, 2023, 02:49:57 AM
I think the culture back then would have looked down upon a bodybuilder needing 'help'. Getting shit done with your physique was always about your own personal journey. Yeah you get advice from the gym bros/manager when you start out but it's a journey that's most enjoyable on your own. My first cycle was a shitty winny 12 week thing - because I was scared of needles and didn't want to get "too big" and didn't want to bloat up LOL you know what I mean when you're that age and dumb you think you have the potential to look world class if you jumped on everything.

The only coaches bodybuilders probably needed were posing coaches like Shawn Ray had that buddy of his. Arnold took dancing/posing classes with some kind of choreographer. The training itself was just gym bros telling each other and trying their own thing.

I remember starting on 10-15 mg dbol a day. Old school style was to start on low dosages, then adjust as you get more experienced. If you have the genetics, you'll see it from your response to the first few low dose cycles.

Now, guys go on the internet and follow random forumcels saying that test is a must on your first cycle, then they end up on something like 500 mg test, 500 mg deca and 50 mg anavar a day lol.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 18, 2023, 03:12:19 AM
I'm no expert on opioids but surely it would be easier to take a batch of prescription tramadol with you if you're travelling? Isn't it a synthetic opioid so therefore would stop withdrawal symptoms in a safer way than tripping your brains out? Maybe tramadol just isn't strong enough for them?

It's probably not strong enough to let a heroin addict be comfortable. I don't know. Now the other way around, heroin for Tramadol addiction worked for ES here. :D

If ibogaine can stop withdrawals completely, even for a few days, that sounds amazing.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rambone on January 18, 2023, 04:55:57 AM
Sure he murdered the guy, but did he ameen to do it?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: youandme on January 18, 2023, 05:12:57 AM
I remember starting on 10-15 mg dbol a day. Old school style was to start on low dosages, then adjust as you get more experienced. If you have the genetics, you'll see it from your response to the first few low dose cycles.

Now, guys go on the internet and follow random forumcels saying that test is a must on your first cycle, then they end up on something like 500 mg test, 500 mg deca and 50 mg anavar a day lol.

Yeah. I remember my first was dbol as well, 25 mg a day. Don’t think I ever got gains like that again other than when I tried tren almost two years later.

Tren was feared and revered back then. Was unusual to go past 6 weeks with it.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Royalty on January 18, 2023, 05:18:01 AM
Sure he murdered the guy, but did he ameen to do it?

Andy’s family: “other than 2 decades worth of steroids and opiates, he was drug free, he dindu nuffin”
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Gym Rat on January 18, 2023, 05:32:34 AM
:o

Hopefully this'll be the end of the "guru"/drug expert era.

the 90s guys looked 10x better than the current crop and the most they had were personal trainers to make sure they're on point in the gym.

I think it's just beginning unfortunately.
I see folks on other forums, just starting, jumping on huge gear cycles, hiring coaches.
They look like they never saw a barbell in their life...

Look at all the gym-idiot videos. Every moron out there thinks they can be Mr. Oilympia...  ::)
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: MAXX on January 18, 2023, 06:11:05 AM
Andy’s family: “other than 2 decades worth of steroids and opiates, he was drug free, he dindu nuffin”
probably beat up his wife from time to time. Idk he just seemed like the type.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: robcguns on January 18, 2023, 09:12:20 AM
Fuck anyone named Ameen.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Stephano on January 18, 2023, 09:17:24 AM
I think it's just beginning unfortunately.
I see folks on other forums, just starting, jumping on huge gear cycles, hiring coaches.
They look like they never saw a barbell in their life...

Look at all the gym-idiot videos. Every moron out there thinks they can be Mr. Oilympia...  ::)

lmao, yeah.

Remember when 1000mg test per week was considered a huge dose of test?  Today it's like baby's first cycle... at least for some of these clowns.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rambone on January 18, 2023, 01:22:34 PM
Fuck anyone named Ameen.

Racist post reported.













DVDs?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rusty Trombone on January 18, 2023, 04:32:42 PM
Fuck anyone named Ameen.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: ChristopherA on January 18, 2023, 06:33:23 PM
I remember starting on 10-15 mg dbol a day. Old school style was to start on low dosages, then adjust as you get more experienced. If you have the genetics, you'll see it from your response to the first few low dose cycles.

Now, guys go on the internet and follow random forumcels saying that test is a must on your first cycle, then they end up on something like 500 mg test, 500 mg deca and 50 mg anavar a day lol.
You even have posters on this forum who call 500mgs TRT
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Lartinos on January 18, 2023, 07:20:29 PM
500mg’s of test is only TRT and it’s not a drug, you know what Ameen?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: anvil on January 18, 2023, 07:53:19 PM
probably beat up his wife from time to time. Idk he just seemed like the type.

I used to see Andy in the gym periodically and though I never heard anything about something like that, you could safely say "moderation" wasn't exactly a word in his vocabulary.  I heard some pretty looney stories.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: OlympiaGym on January 19, 2023, 03:44:46 AM

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: youandme on January 19, 2023, 05:16:34 AM
lmao, yeah.

Remember when 1000mg test per week was considered a huge dose of test?  Today it's like baby's first cycle... at least for some of these clowns.

Haha. Interestingly enough gym rats and bodybuilders looked better back then.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: falco on January 19, 2023, 05:26:54 AM
You even have posters on this forum who call 500mgs TRT

What kind of moron claims that?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: falco on January 19, 2023, 05:29:16 AM
I used to see Andy in the gym periodically and though I never heard anything about something like that, you could safely say "moderation" wasn't exactly a word in his vocabulary.  I heard some pretty looney stories.

Tell us more.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: MAXX on January 19, 2023, 06:50:01 AM
I used to see Andy in the gym periodically and though I never heard anything about something like that, you could safely say "moderation" wasn't exactly a word in his vocabulary.  I heard some pretty looney stories.
yeah just saying if you watch the calm demeanour of Denis compared to Andy. He seems like a lunatic. Agressive and stingy behaviour. Imagine having to live with that personality.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: anvil on January 19, 2023, 07:22:58 AM
Tell us more.

One of the crazier stories (unverified but entertaining nonetheless) is of Andy sitting in a parking lot in his car and some dillwad comes up to try to rob him... Andy pulled him into the car, beat the living shit out of him, and dumped punkboy out on the concrete in a bloody broken heap LOL

This one is less harmful (and verified) but a funny temper tantrum anyway.  Andy got into it with a trainer half his size (some little drunkard dude... man all the trainers in that gym were hardcore drunks for a while) because trainer drunkard was using several different machines all at once for a client.  Andy blew up at him and trainer drunkard goes to the gym owner to get everything cooled down.  The owner said "shit guys, I'm friends with both of you; you're both adults, you're gonna have to resolve that between yourselves."  and both drunkard and Andy grabbed all their stuff and said they weren't coming back again and stormed out like angry little kids hahahahahaaaa

Drunkard ended up moving to another state... Andy came back once in a while.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: anvil on January 19, 2023, 07:24:33 AM
Hahahaaha or the time Andy's buddy's gym bag spilled open and a shitload of drugs went all over the fuggin floor everywhere  ;D
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: The Keto Kid on January 19, 2023, 10:03:45 AM
I think Andy was like a state champion wrestler or something
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: OlympiaGym on January 20, 2023, 06:10:53 AM
Is there a GoFundMe page for Ameen? Anyone have a link?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 20, 2023, 06:21:13 AM
Is there a GoFundMe page for Ameen? Anyone have a link?

YOUKNOW AMEEN
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Matt on January 20, 2023, 12:54:25 PM

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rambone on January 20, 2023, 12:55:30 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=682678.0;attach=1420044;image)

I have it on DVD….
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Royalty on January 20, 2023, 10:37:57 PM
I have it on DVD….

The “firing squad” scene must’ve been riveting. My question is, why did the shooters choose to lay on the ground? Did the movie provide a reason for using that firing technique?

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Matt on January 21, 2023, 12:37:49 AM
The “firing squad” scene must’ve been riveting. My question is, why did the shooters choose to lay on the ground? Did the movie provide a reason for using that firing technique?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=682678.0;attach=1420123;image)

The prone position is a more stable and secure position because it takes longer to exhaust in that position because it's bone on bone.

To shoot using the standing position would render it less likely to kill on the first shot, making suffering of those executed more likely.

PS - "I hit 'em up like E.D.I. Mean."
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Phantom Spunker on January 21, 2023, 12:44:43 AM
The prone position is a more stable and secure position because it takes longer to exhaust in that position because it's bone on bone.

To shoot using the standing position would render it less likely to kill on the first shot, making suffering of those executed more likely.

PS - "I hit 'em up like E.D.I. Mean."

Motion to change the name of the prone position to 'Hankin's Knee'.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rambone on January 21, 2023, 07:54:01 PM
Motion to change the name of the prone position to 'Hankin's Knee'.

Motion to change the name of the prone position to the ‘Stingray Shuffle’
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: OlympiaGym on January 23, 2023, 08:30:13 AM
Anything for "views and clicks" w/ Plaumbo.

Very odd individual...  ::)

He’s the only major YouTuber covering this story it seems. I wonder why the others are largely silent.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: OlympiaGym on February 02, 2024, 04:11:40 AM
What happened with thi case? Anyone know?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Kwon on February 02, 2024, 04:37:30 AM
Make sure the Jury sees this

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: OlympiaGym on February 02, 2024, 09:51:43 AM
No one seems to care what happens to this important steroid guru.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: _bruce_ on February 02, 2024, 09:59:38 AM
Make sure the Jury sees this



Ameen did the world a huge favor - he will most likely get a can of purple heart protein powder.
Idi was a true getbigger but he fucked with the globalists and lost.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: BB on February 02, 2024, 10:16:49 AM
No one seems to care what happens to this important steroid guru.

https://www.cod.uscourts.gov/Documents/Judges/Calendars/2023-07-24/meh.pdf .

He had an initial appearance in the Summer, and the Gov was looking to modify or revoke his bail according to that. He's still out and asking people for donations - https://www.spotfund.com/story/9b0cc53a-6a6f-4e62-bdbf-732a89da5ad9?source=s&share_location=i&SFID=wxb2ksi&referral_id=3240e27b-ff9a-491e-a6c3-c44b80fd77c3 , so I guess it didn't go too badly for him.

Anything more you'd probably have to pay PACER for, but I guess it's just moving forward slowly.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: deadz on February 02, 2024, 01:34:41 PM
No one seems to care what happens to this important steroid guru.
Nope! It's me, myself and my family, fuck the rest!
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: OlympiaGym on February 02, 2024, 03:53:02 PM
https://www.cod.uscourts.gov/Documents/Judges/Calendars/2023-07-24/meh.pdf .

He had an initial appearance in the Summer, and the Gov was looking to modify or revoke his bail according to that. He's still out and asking people for donations - https://www.spotfund.com/story/9b0cc53a-6a6f-4e62-bdbf-732a89da5ad9?source=s&share_location=i&SFID=wxb2ksi&referral_id=3240e27b-ff9a-491e-a6c3-c44b80fd77c3 , so I guess it didn't go too badly for him.

Anything more you'd probably have to pay PACER for, but I guess it's just moving forward slowly.

Pretty sad. Couldn’t afford a Thanksgiving dinner? Not sure how I feel about about him using his kid to raise money.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Gym Rat on February 03, 2024, 02:47:08 AM
Some nutjob donated 3500.00 to Ameen... ::)
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Dorian Cutler on February 03, 2024, 02:53:02 AM
Palumbo will throw his mother under the bus if it gets him attention which gives him a god complex. Remember what he did to rich piana bcs he called a spade a spade.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Taffin on February 03, 2024, 06:35:19 AM
Some nutjob donated 3500.00 to Ameen... ::)

Maybe she's his Sugar Mommy?   Over 60's NPC competitor

http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2023/ifbb_san_antonio_pro/gw94/suzanne_blaylock (http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2023/ifbb_san_antonio_pro/gw94/suzanne_blaylock)

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: sway on February 03, 2024, 09:27:14 AM
Almost everything that’s ever came out of this guys mouth is a lie. He was never a big guru, only lies. These older guys always make these outlandish claims about helping someone “back in the day” and always claiming how they “know this for a fact” and “I was there”.

Ever notice how they always seem to be over 50 and broke or living a basement somewhere. Of course he’s broke and can’t even defend himself or take care of his kid. Yet Palumbo brings him on his low ranked Podcast as an almighty guru.
Palumbo and his entire cast of characters need to go away. He’s the only one that gives these losers a platform.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rambone on February 03, 2024, 09:44:26 AM
Some nutjob donated 3500.00 to Ameen... ::)

That’s at least 10 hour-long schmoe squatting sessions including femdom sissy muscle worship while wearing a male chastity belt
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Skeletor on February 03, 2024, 09:52:33 AM
Almost everything that’s ever came out of this guys mouth is a lie. He was never a big guru, only lies. These older guys always make these outlandish claims about helping someone “back in the day” and always claiming how they “know this for a fact” and “I was there”.

Ever notice how they always seem to be over 50 and broke or living a basement somewhere. Of course he’s broke and can’t even defend himself or take care of his kid. Yet Palumbo brings him on his low ranked Podcast as an almighty guru.
Palumbo and his entire cast of characters need to go away. He’s the only one that gives these losers a platform.

Agreed. Granted, I'm not an industry insider like Vince but I've never heard of "Guru Ameen", the only time I heard of his name was on an old Palumbo video from years ago.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: BB on February 03, 2024, 10:50:51 AM
I didn't recognize the name either, nothing on Misc.fitness.weights either, which is the oldest hardcore group still archived.

Here's an old facebook -  https://www.facebook.com/p/Adam-Powars-100003349930029/ . Seems his biggest claim to fam was being Toney Freeman's guy for a while. I do recognize the "Adam Powars" name a little, but not a serious bell ringer.

Here's Kamali giving him the reach around years ago -

https://www.facebook.com/233457346687028/photos/a.233489470017149/783957074970383/?type=3 .

Also - https://www.givesendgo.com/SaveAmeen , the Tate Brothers seem to have thrown him $10,000 on that.

Also lol  -

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_gXh8XzfB6M/maxresdefault.jpg).

That's his company logo, it's like a "come fuck with me" sign.

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Skeletor on February 03, 2024, 11:02:09 AM
I didn't recognize the name either, nothing on Misc.fitness.weights either, which is the oldest hardcore group still archived.

Here's an old facebook -  https://www.facebook.com/p/Adam-Powars-100003349930029/ . Seems his biggest claim to fam was being Toney Freeman's guy for a while. I do recognize the "Adam Powars" name a little, but not a serious bell ringer.

Here's Kamali giving him the reach around years ago -

https://www.facebook.com/233457346687028/photos/a.233489470017149/783957074970383/?type=3 .

Also - https://www.givesendgo.com/SaveAmeen , the Tate Brothers seem to have thrown him $10,000 on that.

Also lol  -

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_gXh8XzfB6M/maxresdefault.jpg).

That's his company logo, it's like a "come fuck with me" sign.

The pink letters and tiny dumbbell are very effeminate. Is he trying to market himself to females?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rambone on February 03, 2024, 11:05:14 AM
One of the most unique double-ended dildos on the market
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: The Keto Kid on February 03, 2024, 11:11:47 AM
Almost everything that’s ever came out of this guys mouth is a lie. He was never a big guru, only lies. These older guys always make these outlandish claims about helping someone “back in the day” and always claiming how they “know this for a fact” and “I was there”.

Ever notice how they always seem to be over 50 and broke or living a basement somewhere. Of course he’s broke and can’t even defend himself or take care of his kid. Yet Palumbo brings him on his low ranked Podcast as an almighty guru.
Palumbo and his entire cast of characters need to go away. He’s the only one that gives these losers a platform.
The only thing he had was a legit connection to pharmacy gear and most importantly pharmacy gh, that's what made his name, it wasn't his diet/training advice.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: BB on February 03, 2024, 11:15:39 AM
The pink letters and tiny dumbbell are very effeminate. Is he trying to market himself to females?

https://www.alignable.com/denver-co/guru-ameen-alai .

Sort of a "I'll take what I can get vibe."

The blurb from his old business - "Consulting on Nutritional and Excersize programs, Consulting on Hortoculture of Cannabis and the use of cannabis as a dietary supplement and the many benifits of cannabis."

Definite weed carrier vibes from this guy.

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: OlympiaGym on February 03, 2024, 11:15:57 AM
The only thing he had was a legit connection to pharmacy gear and most importantly pharmacy gh, that's what made his name, it wasn't his diet/training advice.

How?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: The Keto Kid on February 03, 2024, 11:25:11 AM
How?
I remember him talking about it in an interview way back, can't really recall, maybe family overseas or something, but that was the reason, he got his brother in shape, his brother won a bunch of shows and he started to make a name for himself in the east coast, eventually Kamali started working with him, turned Kamali pro, the others came, eventually Titus, I think Tony Freeman as well.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Dorian Cutler on February 03, 2024, 11:26:54 AM
https://www.alignable.com/denver-co/guru-ameen-alai .

Sort of a "I'll take what I can get vibe."

The blurb from his old business - "Consulting on Nutritional and Excersize programs, Consulting on Hortoculture of Cannabis and the use of cannabis as a dietary supplement and the many benifits of cannabis."

Definite weed carrier vibes from this guy.

Is he pretending to be a doctor? Why would you take a pic wearing a doctors coat
https://health.usnews.com/doctors/matthew-powers-710717
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: BB on February 03, 2024, 11:49:29 AM
He uses Adam Powars/Powers a lot as an alias. I wonder if he's got family in the medical biz and that's his in. Maybe an (ex?) step-father or brother, or something.

This doctor was in the geographic same areas as Ameen, and the specialty on the coat matches - https://www.nbvcsr.com/meet-us/matthew-powers-md-mba/ . The seal on the coat is U of Colorado, and this guy went there. 
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Dorian Cutler on February 03, 2024, 11:51:53 AM
https://www.alignable.com/denver-co/guru-ameen-alai .

Sort of a "I'll take what I can get vibe."

The blurb from his old business - "Consulting on Nutritional and Excersize programs, Consulting on Hortoculture of Cannabis and the use of cannabis as a dietary supplement and the many benifits of cannabis."

Definite weed carrier vibes from this guy.
It comes off as a very low iq and low effort website. Man, it is embarrassing
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Kwon on February 03, 2024, 12:03:08 PM
The pink letters and tiny dumbbell are very effeminate. Is he trying to market himself to females?

I think he had a lot of female clients, like Suzanne Blaylock
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 03, 2024, 12:13:44 PM
Surprised all these professional gurus advising people what to take and how to get the drugs aren't charged with deaths. 
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Taffin on February 03, 2024, 12:14:34 PM
Is he pretending to be a doctor? Why would you take a pic wearing a doctors coat
https://health.usnews.com/doctors/matthew-powers-710717

An eye Doctor at that LOL

I seem to recall some lab coats and those 'pharmacy bottles' featuring in various supplement ads in the '80s and '90s... (Met-RX?  Twinlab?  Cynergenics?)

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Skeletor on February 03, 2024, 12:16:08 PM
Surprised all these professional gurus advising people what to take and how to get the drugs aren't charged with deaths.

Deaths? Show me the bodies!

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zbh0qhGmJ9U/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: BB on February 03, 2024, 12:21:30 PM
An eye Doctor at that LOL

I seem to recall some lab coats and those 'pharmacy bottles' featuring in various supplement ads in the '80s and '90s... (Met-RX?  Twinlab?  Cynergenics?)

Weider Research Clinic, which was really a closet they turned into a stage. Also Muscletech was famous for the lab coat shot.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: The Keto Kid on February 03, 2024, 12:31:02 PM
I mean if you're a coach and you deliver this to the stage, especially as a teen competitor, you'll surely start making a name for yourself quickly, as much as people rag on Kamali, he looked pretty awesome while with Ameen, once he went to Chad, his physique just got worse and worse, pretty sad actually.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 03, 2024, 02:01:18 PM
I have money to his step son’s recovery when he was dying of cancer. I will say anyone that refers to themselves or is called a “guru” means they think they know everything and aren’t willing to learn.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Never1AShow on February 03, 2024, 03:49:04 PM
Aren't these gurus just drug suppliers?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: bigchuck on February 03, 2024, 03:55:13 PM
I think he is friends with Roger Stone the political consultant.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: joswift on February 04, 2024, 02:09:29 AM
I have money to his step son’s recovery when he was dying of cancer. I will say anyone that refers to themselves or is called a “guru” means they think they know everything and aren’t willing to learn.
if someone's dying of cancer they dont need recovery money

I think you got scammed.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Taffin on February 04, 2024, 05:08:39 AM
I have money to his step son’s recovery when he was dying of cancer. I will say anyone that refers to themselves or is called a “guru” means they think they know everything and aren’t willing to learn.

Maybe another interpretation of people using that word is that they are letting people know they will give the steroid advices and/or can supply them (or can connect people to/recommend suppliers)
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Kwon on February 04, 2024, 07:46:12 AM
I mean if you're a coach and you deliver this to the stage, especially as a teen competitor, you'll surely start making a name for yourself quickly, as much as people rag on Kamali, he looked pretty awesome while with Ameen, once he went to Chad, his physique just got worse and worse, pretty sad actually.

Kamali looked great there
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: youandme on February 04, 2024, 08:54:03 AM
I mean if you're a coach and you deliver this to the stage, especially as a teen competitor, you'll surely start making a name for yourself quickly, as much as people rag on Kamali, he looked pretty awesome while with Ameen, once he went to Chad, his physique just got worse and worse, pretty sad actually.

Yeah big time. Kamali once went on a podcast and talked about the amount of food he was eating on Chad’s plan and I believe the large amounts of test.

His waist got blown out because of it like so many of the early 2000s guys Chad was working with.

 
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Dorian Cutler on February 04, 2024, 08:55:42 AM
Yeah big time. Kamali once went on a podcast and talked about the amount of food he was eating on Chad’s plan and I believe the large amounts of test.

His waist got blown out because of it like so many of the early 2000s guys Chad was working with.

Chad looks like someone who lives in a trailer
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rambone on February 04, 2024, 11:35:23 AM
Chad looks like someone who lives in a trailer

Bro!
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: OlympiaGym on February 04, 2024, 11:46:30 AM
I think he is friends with Roger Stone the political consultant.

He is. And Stone is close to Trump. Very strange. Perhaps Trump will pardon him if he gets elected.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Dorian Cutler on February 04, 2024, 11:47:41 AM
Bro!
Sorry, I just always felt like sharing that opinion and this seemed like a good time.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: dj181 on February 04, 2024, 12:19:08 PM
2 a-RAB craps ameen and peo dullgevity

thank god peo is dead maybe gaymeen will be next
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Dalnet on February 04, 2024, 05:02:54 PM
Maybe she's his Sugar Mommy?   Over 60's NPC competitor

http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2023/ifbb_san_antonio_pro/gw94/suzanne_blaylock (http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2023/ifbb_san_antonio_pro/gw94/suzanne_blaylock)

She's an anaesthetist. Exactly what my brother does. They're on good money here in the UK, especially in private hospitals. Probably mega money over in the States
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Dalnet on February 04, 2024, 05:07:51 PM
I mean if you're a coach and you deliver this to the stage, especially as a teen competitor, you'll surely start making a name for yourself quickly, as much as people rag on Kamali, he looked pretty awesome while with Ameen, once he went to Chad, his physique just got worse and worse, pretty sad actually.

You're right that Kamali went through a great physique period and then regressed quite quickly. Branch Warren had a great physique and regressed but politics or whatever kept him scoring higher than he deserved
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Dalnet on February 04, 2024, 05:11:32 PM
I have money to his step son’s recovery when he was dying of cancer. I will say anyone that refers to themselves or is called a “guru” means they think they know everything and aren’t willing to learn.

It's a shitty name to call yourself. Sounds like some Aladdin Arabian Nights kind of crap. Guru, genie, whatever
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rambone on February 04, 2024, 05:30:42 PM
It’s all bullshit….all of it.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 04, 2024, 05:47:05 PM
This is also a Guru Amin:

Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 04, 2024, 05:57:51 PM
Aren't these gurus just drug suppliers?

The story goes Ameen had a connect for GH which he sold or gave to Titus, so then he was called a guru and Titus' trainer. I'm positive he had jack shit to do with Titus' training.

He really is someone who does not know much at all about anything. Palumbo has had him on his show many times, perhaps because they are friends from way back, some kind of favor.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Taffin on February 05, 2024, 01:57:11 AM
The story goes Ameen had a connect for GH which he sold or gave to Titus, so then he was called a guru and Titus' trainer. I'm positive he had jack shit to do with Titus' training.

He really is someone who does not know much at all about anything. Palumbo has had him on his show many times, perhaps because they are friends from way back, some kind of favor.

Is Aleem Persian, maybe?  If I catch a Kamali stream (accidentally) he generally speaks Farsi (at least I guess that's what it is) so maybe he's promoting for that reason?
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 05, 2024, 03:35:25 AM
Is Aleem Persian, maybe?  If I catch a Kamali stream (accidentally) he generally speaks Farsi (at least I guess that's what it is) so maybe he's promoting for that reason?

I don't know about a Kamali connection but somehow Ameen's name came up here and there over the years, Palumbo, the Titus connect, his Ecstacy dealing with Titus where he says Titus ratted him out. Then came Leo Longevity, first working together, then as enemies. I don't know how much of this is "real" but Leo completely eviscerated Ameen, it was real nasty, like he wanted to bury Ameen. Almost felt sorry for the guy. This little guy, posting videos on IG where he does a single deadlift with 315, I think he captioned it something like, "this is what happens when you know what you're doing." He was going to "transform."
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rambone on September 06, 2024, 09:56:15 AM
BREAKING NEWS
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: BB on September 06, 2024, 10:21:52 AM
BREAKING NEWS

https://wabcradio.com/episode/ameen-alai-09-01-24/ .

Site sucks, but it's interesting. He was one of Stone's personal trainers, mention he was well known in DC 30 years ago.   

Apparently, Ameen's roommate / partner in the Ibogaine thing shot Haman up, Haman falls down, starts shaking, dies right there according to Stone. 

Ameen's mother took out loans to pay for his defense.

Roger Stone is his son's godfather.

Andrew Tate helped him raise $100,000 for legal stuff.

Stone thinks Ameen is a causality of a war on Ibogaine started by big pharma.                 
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: falco on September 06, 2024, 12:24:53 PM
BREAKING NEWS
Thank you for the update.

Nevertheless, fuck him.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 06, 2024, 01:23:30 PM
Aren't these gurus just drug suppliers?

Many of these gurus and coaches regarding bodybuilding are just drug dealers. They can obtain the drugs and give advice how to use them. I don't see how they fly under the radar of law enforcement. They must be a very low priority for the Feds.
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Rambone on September 06, 2024, 01:26:40 PM
Thank you for the update.

Nevertheless, fuck him.

Thank you for the kind words, falco. Rock me Amadeus
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Kwon on September 06, 2024, 02:13:43 PM
You know Ameen!
Title: Re: Guru Ameen charged with murder
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 07, 2024, 01:34:43 AM
Many of these gurus and coaches regarding bodybuilding are just drug dealers. They can obtain the drugs and give advice how to use them. I don't see how they fly under the radar of law enforcement. They must be a very low priority for the Feds.
Cocaine and heroin trafficking is a much bigger priority.