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https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter-fatal-rust-shooting-district-attorney
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How or why was the gun loaded with real bullets? Who did that?
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he pissed off one of the powers somewhere as they do not eat one of their own unless they want him to pay for something he did or didn't do to/for them
(see hunter/joey b)
The ruling class rules the world.
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How or why was the gun loaded with real bullets? Who did that?
On October 27, after issuing another search warrant,[50] the department said they had recovered over 600 items as evidence, including 500 rounds of ammunition which were a mix of blanks, dummy rounds and suspected live rounds. They added that a projectile had been recovered from Souza's shoulder, which they categorized as a suspected live round.
On October 28, Halls hired Albuquerque attorney Lisa Torraco as his defense lawyer; Gutierrez-Reed hired former Assistant U.S. Attorney Jason Bowles as her lawyer.[55]
On November 3, Bowles made the claim that sabotage was involved in the incident.[56] On November 10, Santa Fe County District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies said there was no evidence to back up Bowles's claim
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_shooting_incident#Criminal_charges
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Guns dont kill people, Libturd Alec Baldwin kills people.
Couldnt have happened to a nicer guy dumber kvnt...
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https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter-fatal-rust-shooting-district-attorney
no jury is going to convict him, it was ruled an accidental shooting and it happened on the set of the Crow when Brandon Lee was killed. Politically motivated
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Got too old, and is falling into the "worthless" column for them now. It's also only 18 months at best if he does the full ride, but that won't happen. Hollywood gets to show no one is above the law, the unions, etc.... are happy, and life goes on. (The blue collar unions involved in the film business have been pushing for big reforms since the shooting happened.)
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So no one cares about the prop guy putting live rounds in a cap gun?
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no jury is going to convict him, it was ruled an accidental shooting and it happened on the set of the Crow when Brandon Lee was killed. Politically motivated
Well but it wasn’t an accident. It was negligent at best.
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So no one cares about the prop guy putting live rounds in a cap gun?
The girl armorer got charged too, and one of the assistant directors took a 6 month suspended sentence for negligent use of a firearm a little while ago.
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no jury is going to convict him, it was ruled an accidental shooting and it happened on the set of the Crow when Brandon Lee was killed. Politically motivated
Charge is manslaughter. The only thing political is the fact that it took this long to charge a democrat.
If this had been you you'd still be in the slammer waiting for a court date.
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The deceased had a good physique. She could’ve definitely done damage at one of those face the wall and stick your ass out competitions
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The fact it took this long is disturbing. You or I would have been hooked up immediately
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no jury is going to convict him, it was ruled an accidental shooting and it happened on the set of the Crow when Brandon Lee was killed. Politically motivated
Well I guess we can close the case in this one then. Our industry insider Vince has spoken, live from the trailer park. You heard it first here folks!
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no jury is going to convict him, it was ruled an accidental shooting and it happened on the set of the Crow when Brandon Lee was killed. Politically motivated
I dont think that was Alec
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The fact it took this long is disturbing. You or I would have been hooked up immediately
gasp, it almost seems like there's a different rule book for rich people
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Why should baldwin be charged, he didn't know there was a live round. The people in charge of the ammo should know and be held accountable.
I know people don't seem to like baldwin but i dont see how he can be charged
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Why should baldwin be charged, he didn't know there was a live round. The people in charge of the ammo should know and be held accountable.
I know people don't seem to like baldwin but i dont see how he can be charged
he's a lib
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Alex and his wife can really pump out the kids.
Props to them for population growth.
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no jury is going to convict him, it was ruled an accidental shooting and it happened on the set of the Crow when Brandon Lee was killed. Politically motivated
Yes but the main difference is Baldwin LIED THROUGH HIS SMUG FUCKING FACE.
LOL, "I didn't pull the trigger" who the fuck else did. The problem with his lie is that it was an obviously really bad lie. And everyone knew it was a really obviously bad lie.
The second shitty thing he did was play the victim instead of showing any remorse.
He lied during a criminal investigation. Yes it wasn't intentional but he pulled the trigger then he lied about it. Therefore he can be charged with Manslaughter if not Negligent Homicide as well as hindering if not perjury.
Dont quote me on the exact statutes as laws in different states have different elements and sometimes different names but you should be able to understand that this isn't purley political. If anything politics would benefit him. His witness statement as well as the assnine comments he made on national television, against his lawyers advice btw, are what prompted this.
In the end his own arrogance and stupidity got him charged.
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Why should baldwin be charged, he didn't know there was a live round. The people in charge of the ammo should know and be held accountable.
I know people don't seem to like baldwin but i dont see how he can be charged
From what I remember they weren’t filming a scene. That being said since he’s last to have the gun it’s his responsibility to clear it. He said he knew firearms, hes a liar. These rules are universal. It’s not a matter of liking him or not.
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Why should baldwin be charged, he didn't know there was a live round. The people in charge of the ammo should know and be held accountable.
I know people don't seem to like baldwin but i dont see how he can be charged
Yeah no shit.
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no jury is going to convict him, it was ruled an accidental shooting and it happened on the set of the Crow when Brandon Lee was killed. Politically motivated
So you cannot be convicted of involuntary manslaughter if it's an accident, really? Baldwin was a producer and he pulled the trigger. I would say he bears quite a bit of the responsibility. If he is smart he will take a plea deal and get little or maybe no prison time.
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Fuck that fat bloated looking pompous prick.....I hope they give him the stiffest penalty in the book even though he`ll get off with a slap on the wrist.
If it was any of us,they`d have us under the jail.
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I dont think that was Alec
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Well but it wasn’t an accident. It was negligent at best.
The prosecution is going to have to prove that he knew the gun was loaded with live ammunition and that he was experienced enough to know that any firearm is to be treated as loaded at all times. He's a Hollywood actor...they are experienced with tofu smoothies and driving electric cars......not guns
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Gun prop master should be charged not Baldwin. This makes no sense.
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Why should baldwin be charged, he didn't know there was a live round. The people in charge of the ammo should know and be held accountable.
I know people don't seem to like baldwin but i dont see how he can be charged
Someone was killed so there needs to be responsibility. That lies with multiple parties.
Ballin is Charged because it is a real firearm so the law applies to usage and safety. Ie If he was holding a photo of a gun and a bullet flew out and killed the girl, then you have a point. A photo of a gun can not fire a real bullet whereas a real gun can. Gun laws apply when real guns are used.
Dummy rounds can be messed up in production and essentially become live rounds. There is also room for error in the traceability from production to set. Responsibility of that traceability lies with the person hired to manage safety.
All parties were contractually paid for safety and all failed because someone died due to negligence, not an act of God.
I didn’t know’ is not a defence for negligence, pointing a gun at someone (loaded or not) is the primary negligence on his behalf and indefensible because you can’t say i never pointed it at her. The whole trigger excuse is an attempt to misdirect the public away from the fact he pointed a gun at someone, not while filming but just chatting casually.
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Gun prop master should be charged not Baldwin. This makes no sense.
It makes sense (see my post above).
The question is what sentence should he get. I’m assuming a light suspended sentence.
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Yes but the main difference is Baldwin LIED THROUGH HIS SMUG FUCKING FACE.
LOL, "I didn't pull the trigger" who the fuck else did. The problem with his lie is that it was an obviously really bad lie. And everyone knew it was a really obviously bad lie.
The second shitty thing he did was play the victim instead of showing any remorse.
He lied during a criminal investigation. Yes it wasn't intentional but he pulled the trigger then he lied about it. Therefore he can be charged with Manslaughter if not Negligent Homicide as well as hindering if not perjury.
Dont quote me on the exact statutes as laws in different states have different elements and sometimes different names but you should be able to understand that this isn't purley political. If anything politics would benefit him. His witness statement as well as the assnine comments he made on national television, against his lawyers advice btw, are what prompted this.
In the end his own arrogance and stupidity got him charged.
Of course he was lying....but lying doesn't equal a manslaughter charge. If I pop a cork on a bottle of champagne and it puts someone's eye out...do we charge him with assault??? They were doing rehearsals for the movie for him to pull out the gun and aim it at the camera...the people who got hit were behind a screen. He didn't go and point the gun at someone
He already settled with the family...even made one of them a producer and filming will start back up soon. None of the people that actually mattered will testify against him except some workers who walked off the set. But I honestly don't give a shit about these people so whatever happens ...happens . But I call bullshit on the charge
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Gun prop master should be charged not Baldwin. This makes no sense.
Again, the last one holding the gun should be the last one to clear it. Even if it’s unloaded you still don’t point it
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The prosecution is going to have to prove that he knew the gun was loaded with live ammunition and that he was experienced enough to know that any firearm is to be treated as loaded at all times. He's a Hollywood actor...they are experienced with tofu smoothies and driving electric cars......not guns
ummmm....no they do not because the charge is involuntary manslaughter.
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So you cannot be convicted of involuntary manslaughter if it's an accident, really? Baldwin was a producer and he pulled the trigger. I would say he bears quite a bit of the responsibility. If he is smart he will take a plea deal and get little or maybe no prison time.
He's an idiot actor and he was in rehearsals for the movie where he was to pull out the gun and aim it at the camera. The people he hit were behind a screen. He has no knowledge of firearms or firearms safety which is why there was an armorer on set that was responsible for making sure the weapons were properly handled. He thought that he had a movie prop gun because that's what was given to him and that's what he was told it was....it was a movie after all.
Yea someone should be help responsible...but for negligence and not a murder charge..
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He's an idiot actor and he was in rehearsals for the movie where he was to pull out the gun and aim it at the camera. The people he hit were behind a screen. He has no knowledge of firearms or firearms safety which is why there was an armorer on set that was responsible for making sure the weapons were properly handled. He thought that he had a movie prop gun because that's what was given to him and that's what he was told it was....it was a movie after all.
Yea someone should be help responsible...but for negligence and not a murder charge..
it's not a murder charge, it's involuntary manslaughter which means someone died because of your actions.
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Again, the last one holding the gun should be the last one to clear it. Even if it’s unloaded you still don’t point it
Coach, WE KNOW THAT..WE'VE HANDLED FIREARMS. He doesn't know shit about firearms and hired an armorer for that reason
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In order to obtain a conviction of Involuntary Manslaughter, the prosecution must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, the following legal elements:
That the defendant caused an unlawful, while unintentional, killing. In other words, there was no legal justification for the killing (such as self-defense,) and the defendant intended to commit the act or conduct that ultimately caused the death. However, the prosecution does not need to prove that the defendant intended to cause the death that resulted from his conduct;
That the victim’s death was caused by wanton or reckless conduct, meaning that the defendant's actions created a high degree of likelihood that substantial and serious harm would result to another person; and The wanton or reckless conduct that the defendant engaged in, in fact caused the victim’s death.
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it's not a murder charge, it's involuntary manslaughter which means someone died because of your actions.
involuntary manslaughter would be like running a red light and hitting someone and killing them. You didn't intend to kill them but your negligence in running a red light caused it.
The Rust shooting happened because the armorer handed Alec a gun and told him it was a cold gun. He was on a movie set and he had a reasonable expectation that he had a prop gun and not one with real bullets, and he pulled it out because it was a rehearsal.
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Coach, WE KNOW THAT..WE'VE HANDLED FIREARMS. He doesn't know shit about firearms and hired an armorer for that reason
He claimed he did and therein lies the problem. He said he’s been handling firearms for years
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He claimed he did and therein lies the problem. He said he’s been handling firearms for years
Werent they shooting live rounds off the set, during breaks and stuff? Or was that just bullshit?
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Werent they shooting live rounds off the set, during breaks and stuff? Or was that just bullshit?
I think you’re right. I forgot all about that
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Brutal if true
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He claimed he did and therein lies the problem. He said he’s been handling firearms for years
Maybe Fox News can help you
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/rust-tragedy-alec-baldwin-should-not-be-charged-criminal-case-shooting-death-halyna-hutchins
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Maybe Fox News can help you
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/rust-tragedy-alec-baldwin-should-not-be-charged-criminal-case-shooting-death-halyna-hutchins
I read that earlier. It’s his opinion. I don’t agree with it and not because he’s an asshole
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Stick to the facts.
He's not bald.
He's not winning.
Sean Connery told him point blank "Be careful what you shoot at. Some things in here don't react well to bullets."
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negligence is still criminal behaviour, even if he doesn't do anytime, civilly he's farked, lawsuit coming. No insurance company is going to take the fall for him when he's found guilty.
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The Rust shooting happened because the armorer handed Alec a gun and told him it was a cold gun. He was on a movie set and he had a reasonable expectation that he had a prop gun and not one with real bullets, and he pulled it out because it was a rehearsal.
Dammit Vince, do you understand it was still a real gun, it’s a not a toy gun and there is NEVER any “reasonable expectation” that it’s empty, blanks or even snap caps. The last one to handle it is the last one to make sure it’s clear and safe. PERIOD.
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Of course he was lying....but lying doesn't equal a manslaughter charge. If I pop a cork on a bottle of champagne and it puts someone's eye out...do we charge him with assault??? They were doing rehearsals for the movie for him to pull out the gun and aim it at the camera...the people who got hit were behind a screen. He didn't go and point the gun at someone
He already settled with the family...even made one of them a producer and filming will start back up soon. None of the people that actually mattered will testify against him except some workers who walked off the set. But I honestly don't give a shit about these people so whatever happens ...happens . But I call bullshit on the charge
A cork in a bottle is not a deadly weapon. What you're describing is a freak accident.
He pointed a gun at her and pulled the trigger. Granted it was supposed to be loaded with blanks but even blanks have killed people. Then he lied about it.
There's also culpability because he was the producer too, if im not mistaken. Bottom line hee death is his responsibility.
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A cork in a bottle is not a deadly weapon. What you're describing is a freak accident.
He pointed a gun at her and pulled the trigger. Granted it was supposed to be loaded with blanks but even blanks have killed people. Then he lied about it.
There's also culpability because he was the producer too, if im not mistaken. Bottom line hee death is his responsibility.
Exactly, and yes he was the main producer of the film, aka the CEO, and who also has responsibility for what those working for him (employees) do such as the armor person he hired to ensure things like that don't happen.
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Gun prop master should be charged not Baldwin. This makes no sense.
They were both charged.
The gun prop master is a woman.
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no jury is going to convict him, it was ruled an accidental shooting and it happened on the set of the Crow when Brandon Lee was killed. Politically motivated
He may not be convicted. But he may. It seems to me the two incidents while similar may have differences in culpability. For example, Brandon was killed by a faulty dummy round, not a live round. The actor who shot Brandon was not a person in charge of the set and had inherent responsibility for safety protocols being followed.
I THINK the differences that could lean towards a conviction is that there are allegations that Baldwin fostered an unsafe environment and protocols were inconsistent even after complaints.
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The fact it took this long is disturbing. You or I would have been hooked up immediately
You or I are not celebrities with unlimited funds. The whole "world" is not going to watch what happens in our case. It's not uncommon for law enforcement to get their ducks in a row and take extra precautions when dealing with a high profile case. At this point, there was no hurry. He wasn't going anywhere anyway. Just my observation, I could be wrong.
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The prosecution is going to have to prove that he knew the gun was loaded with live ammunition and that he was experienced enough to know that any firearm is to be treated as loaded at all times. He's a Hollywood actor...they are experienced with tofu smoothies and driving electric cars......not guns
I believe that is not accurate. Manslaughter is often charged and convictions gained from accidents. The crux of the issue is the level of negligence. He didn't have to KNOW the gun was loaded but that he SHOULD have known the gun was loaded using reasonable precautions.
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Why do they use real guns anyways. That is the part that should be illegal. Just use prop-guns..
With real guns if you load it with blanks and you check it before there can be mishaps like in "The Crow" where a round is lodged in the barrel
That case was pretty much identical to the Baldwin case. But in that case Massee(shooting Lee on set) was never even charged and it was deemed an accident.
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Why do they use real guns anyways. That is the part that should be illegal. Just use prop-guns..
With real guns if you load it with blanks and you check it before there can be mishaps like in "The Crow" where a round is lodged in the barrel
That case was pretty much identical to the Baldwin case. But in that case Massee(shooting Lee on set) was never even charged and it was deemed an accident.
They fucked up a lot on that movie set for this incident to happen. Hiring Alec Baldwin was the first.
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Why do they use real guns anyways. That is the part that should be illegal. Just use prop-guns..
With real guns if you load it with blanks and you check it before there can be mishaps like in "The Crow" where a round is lodged in the barrel
That case was pretty much identical to the Baldwin case. But in that case Massee(shooting Lee on set) was never even charged and it was deemed an accident.
Good question, obviously fake guns can be made to look real.
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Very tough man that Alec Baldwin!! ::) ::) ::)
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Lets not forget fake tough-guy De Niro the queero... ::) ::)
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I’ll never forget what he tried to do to that poor canteen boy
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I’ll never forget what he tried to do to that poor canteen boy
It was a bed bug
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It was a bed bug
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Lets not forget fake tough-guy De Niro the queero... ::) ::)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfdcGbNUcAAkHvf.jpg)
He just forgets that life is not a movie and thinks he is one of the badass movie roles he has played.
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Ok, it wasn’t a bed bug
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The Hunt For Red October is one of my all-time favourites.
Having said this, the guy is a known hothead prick.
We’ll have to wait to see the outcome of all this.
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They fucked up a lot on that movie set for this incident to happen. Hiring Alec Baldwin was the first.
Thry didnt hire him
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A cork in a bottle is not a deadly weapon. What you're describing is a freak accident.
He pointed a gun at her and pulled the trigger. Granted it was supposed to be loaded with blanks but even blanks have killed people. Then he lied about it.
There's also culpability because he was the producer too, if im not mistaken. Bottom line hee death is his responsibility.
You're right..blanks have killed actors like Brandon Lee....but the person who pulled the trigger wasnt charged with manslaughter because it was an accident and he thought the weapon was not dangerous. The case is about the same as Alec Baldwin.
Take these scenarios:
I'm a bartender and a co-worker hands me a bottle of alcohol for restock but its spiked and it kills people...manslaughter??
She should have checked the liquor ...right???
Dlo Brown paralyzed Droz in the WWE with his signature move...attempted manslaughter??? He should have made sure Droz got rid of the loose clothes
Thats the issue i have and i dont like Alec Baldwin. Its clearly politically motivated as the only way to have prevented this happening is for Alec to second guess thr armorer who handed him the weapon and told him it was clear. He would have also had the ability to know what real ammunition and fake ammunition looks like even if he checked the chamber. Stuff like this should be settled in a civil court
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I hope he assumes room temp. He is a vile creature.
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Thats the issue i have and i dont like Alec Baldwin. Its clearly politically motivated as the only way to have prevented this happening is for Alec to second guess thr armorer who handed him the weapon and told him it was clear. He would have also had the ability to know what real ammunition and fake ammunition looks like even if he checked the chamber. Stuff like this should be settled in a civil court
You still don't aim it at the cinematographer and squeeze the trigger.
That's why it is involuntary manslaughter.
He should know better.
And he knows he's guilty.
This is why, for months, he tried to say the gun went off accidently and he hadn't pulled the trigger.
He knew he aimed it at her and fired it.
He should take a plea, but his moronic ego might get the better of him.
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Vince just doesn't seem to get.
Baldwin had no business pulling the trigger when he did. He pulled it during rehearsals and whilst no one was wearing ear protection. He is at fault for firing the gun. The gun having a live bullet in there was just his bad luck.
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Lets not forget fake tough-guy De Niro the queero... ::) ::)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfdcGbNUcAAkHvf.jpg)
Let's get to nearly 80 years old before we start criticising people for being helped off a boat ::)
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Vince just doesn't seem to get.
Baldwin had no business pulling the trigger when he did. He pulled it during rehearsals and whilst one was wearing ear protection. He is at fault for firing the gun. The gun having a live bullet in there was just his bad luck.
Exactly.
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It would be great if there was a rule now in movies where all guns have to be finger guns and the actor has to make as good sounds as possible for the firing.
Obviously, you'd still need to making blank sounds from your mouth (not live ones), but it'd be safer.
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Let's get to nearly 80 years old before we start criticising people for being helped off a boat ::)
De Niro is belittled and despised for being an anti-American, worthless piece of cuckold crap, not because he has trouble getting off.
A boat.
And fuck De Niro. I hope he assumes room temp soon.
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I hate all baldwins and want them all dead...
But the responsibility of props is never on the actors....
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he pissed off one of the powers somewhere as they do not eat one of their own unless they want him to pay for something he did or didn't do to/for them
(see hunter/joey b)
The ruling class rules the world.
The grinch is the best poster on getbig....
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It would be great if there was a rule now in movies where all guns have to be finger guns and the actor has to make as good sounds as possible for the firing.
Obviously, you'd still need to making blank sounds from your mouth (not live ones), but it'd be safer.
There's near-precedence for that. :D
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You still don't aim it at the cinematographer and squeeze the trigger.
That's why it is involuntary manslaughter.
He should know better.
And he knows he's guilty.
This is why, for months, he tried to say the gun went off accidently and he hadn't pulled the trigger.
He knew he aimed it at her and fired it.
He should take a plea, but his moronic ego might get the better of him.
He didn't aim it at her, he aimed it at the camera which was what the scene called for him to do, she was behind the camera with everyone else and who got hit. Doesn't matter what he said about the trigger...its meaningless because it was after the incident. The accident was caused by the armorer responsible for making sure the equipment was safe giving him a gun that had live ammunition in it rather than one with blanks...nothing more.
I wouldn't take a plea...its politically motivated and practically every legal expert, former DA's, etc have said its not only a over-reach but sends a very bad precedent. This was an accident and should be treated as such as a civil court issue.
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Vince just doesn't seem to get.
Baldwin had no business pulling the trigger when he did. He pulled it during rehearsals and whilst no one was wearing ear protection. He is at fault for firing the gun. The gun having a live bullet in there was just his bad luck.
It doesn't matter about the trigger or ear protection....you ever see any westerns where the main character is wearing hearing protection. The point is that ultimately the entire incident would not have happened if blank ammunition was placed in the gun instead of live ammunition. Alec hired an armorer who was an expert at handling firearms for the production because he wasn't one himself...if he was handling the guns himself to save money then the argument can easily be made for manslaughter....very easy.
I don't like Alec and never liked him but I know a political hit when I see it.
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It doesn't matter about the trigger or ear protection....you ever see any westerns where the main character is wearing hearing protection. The point is that ultimately the entire incident would not have happened if blank ammunition was placed in the gun instead of live ammunition. Alec hired an armorer who was an expert at handling firearms for the production because he wasn't one himself...if he was handling the guns himself to save money then the argument can easily be made for manslaughter....very easy.
I don't like Alec and never liked him but I know a political hit when I see it.
Vinbecile the crew behind the camera would be wearing over ear type protection and invisible style ear plugs are often worn by those in front of the camera ::)
Let's try a different example to try help you understand.
Speed limit on a road is 60mph. You're doing 59 and a kid comes out of no where. Nothing you could do even if you were going 40mph. You're in the clear.
Baldwin is 80mph and over the speed limit. Hits the kid, nothing he could do even if he was doing 40, but he's screwed cos he was he failed to follow the speed limit. Baldwin had no reason to be doing 80mph. It's his bad luck some dumb kid fucked up.
Baldwin had no reason to pull the trigger. It's his bad luck some dumb woman fucked up.
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So no one cares about the prop guy putting live rounds in a cap gun?
It was a dumb hoe
I mean how the hell did she put live rounds in there.
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Vinbecile the crew behind the camera would be wearing over ear type protection and invisible style ear plugs are often worn by those in front of the camera ::)
Let's try a different example to try help you understand.
Speed limit on a road is 60mph. You're doing 59 and a kid comes out of no where. Nothing you could do even if you were going 40mph. You're in the clear.
Baldwin is 80mph and over the speed limit. Hits the kid, nothing he could do even if he was doing 40, but he's screwed cos he was he failed to follow the speed limit. Baldwin had no reason to be doing 80mph. It's his bad luck some dumb kid fucked up.
Baldwin had no reason to pull the trigger. It's his bad luck some dumb woman fucked up.
He should have still checked the Gun...no excuse
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We don't know anything about the dead cinematographer tho. It was a Hollywood person. That's all we know. Maybe Baldwin should get a tickertape parade. We just don't know.
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There's also culpability because he was the producer too, if im not mistaken. Bottom line hee death is his responsibility.
A lot of bullshit in this thread, but this is the only relevant detail.
If this was only an acting gig for Baldwin, there's no way he would've been charged.
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I can’t stand Baldwin but in no way is this his fault. For them to say all guns should be checked prior to firing I agree but not by an actor, why would there ever be live rounds on a movie set? Pretty stupid to be honest and again I hate the guy but if I was on a jury about this he would get off.
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I can’t stand Baldwin but in no way is this his fault.
Who cares,throw the fat drunken has been in jail anyway. :D
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Who cares,throw the fat drunken has been in jail anyway. :D
Ok fuck it, GUILTY.
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We say to Alec Baldwin like this. "Alec. Sometimes bad luck happens." And he says yeah that's what it was.
So we ask him. "Alec. You ever see The Deer Hunter?"
Then you hand him the same gun, slap him across the face, and yell MAO! MAO! [slap] MAO!
Quick, cheap, highest television ratings ever. That's a million dollar idea. You guys can have that.
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I can’t stand Baldwin but in no way is this his fault. For them to say all guns should be checked prior to firing I agree but not by an actor, why would there ever be live rounds on a movie set? Pretty stupid to be honest and again I hate the guy but if I was on a jury about this he would get off.
well anytime i got a weapon of anyone in the military ..you check it.
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Vinbecile the crew behind the camera would be wearing over ear type protection and invisible style ear plugs are often worn by those in front of the camera ::)
Let's try a different example to try help you understand.
Speed limit on a road is 60mph. You're doing 59 and a kid comes out of no where. Nothing you could do even if you were going 40mph. You're in the clear.
Baldwin is 80mph and over the speed limit. Hits the kid, nothing he could do even if he was doing 40, but he's screwed cos he was he failed to follow the speed limit. Baldwin had no reason to be doing 80mph. It's his bad luck some dumb kid fucked up.
Baldwin had no reason to pull the trigger. It's his bad luck some dumb woman fucked up.
That makes no sense you dipshit and no relevence. Baldwin was rehearsing a scene with the other actors which is why he had the gun in his hand and pointed it at the camera. It was in the fucking script...you know , that document that actors use to...well act. Let me give you an example.
There is not irresponsible that he did. He hired an armorer to handle the weapons and to insure there were blanks on it, he was handed the weapin, he pointed it at the camera as whats in the script, the gun went off..regardless of whether he pulled the trigger and malfunction and it turned out that there was real bullets in it instead of the blanks that was suppose to be in it.
He is an actor...not a gun expert and thats why an armorer was hired. The person is responsible for handling guns to make sure they are safe to use. This was a tragic accident and there is nothing close to being negligence or reckless behavior by him and even you should know that. Its not just an over reach but politically motivated. If it was anyone but him, there would be no charges
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Nah, there is a lot more going on behind the scenes, than we must know.
I don't care about Baldwin either way, but it there appear to be a witch hunt going on.
Maybe they want it to go to court because the defense can prove that Baldwin was having an affair with said victim, and he wanted to get rid of the evidence.
The real shame in this whole scenario, is that this movie will never be finished.
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He should have still checked the Gun...no excuse
For what, have you even seen blank ammunition??? blanks are practically indistinguishable from real ammunition.. He would had not only had the ability to know the difference and if he did then there would be no reason to hire an armorer. He hired one because he doesn't know anything about guns or bullets.
I honestly would like to know how the fuck live ammunition ended up there in the first place. If there's evidence that brought it there to have more realistic scene then you can make an argument for manslaughter. But that just didnt happen. Im interested to hear what the DA is going to bring to trial.
One other thing...the DA hasn't even called them in to be arrested at all which would be typical. They are suppose to be booked in and usually released on a bond. That convinces me more that its a political stunt and a smear campaign
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For what, have you even seen blank ammunition??? blanks are practically indistinguishable from real ammunition.. He would had not only had the ability to know the difference and if he did then there would be no reason to hire an armorer. He hired one because he doesn't know anything about guns or bullets.
I honestly would like to know how the fuck live ammunition ended up there in the first place. If there's evidence that brought it there to have more realistic scene then you can make an argument for manslaughter. But that just didnt happen. Im interested to hear what the DA is going to bring to trial.
One other thing...the DA hasn't even called them in to be arrested at all which would be typical. They are suppose to be booked in and usually released on a bond. That convinces me more that its a political stunt and a smear campaign
Are you being fucking serious? fucking moron ;D
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That makes no sense you dipshit and no relevence. Baldwin was rehearsing a scene with the other actors which is why he had the gun in his hand and pointed it at the camera. It was in the fucking script...you know , that document that actors use to...well act. Let me give you an example.
There is not irresponsible that he did. He hired an armorer to handle the weapons and to insure there were blanks on it, he was handed the weapin, he pointed it at the camera as whats in the script, the gun went off..regardless of whether he pulled the trigger and malfunction and it turned out that there was real bullets in it instead of the blanks that was suppose to be in it.
He is an actor...not a gun expert and thats why an armorer was hired. The person is responsible for handling guns to make sure they are safe to use. This was a tragic accident and there is nothing close to being negligence or reckless behavior by him and even you should know that. Its not just an over reach but politically motivated. If it was anyone but him, there would be no charges
Apologies Vince. You are correct. After all you do have a great record making these types of judgment calls.
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Are you being fucking serious? fucking moron ;D
These would have been the rounds that would have been in the revolver. The only difference is that at the end of the round, there's an x marking it as a blank round or some of them can have a crimp at the end. He would have had to take the bullets out of the gun and he would have to know how to identify that it is a a blank.
Now he could have asked an expert to help him identify the rounds to insure that they were blanks instead of live but that's exactly what he did. He was handed a gun and when he asked whether it was clear, he was told that the gun had blanks in it.
Anything else??? ::)
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Krank, please shop that as “possibly bhanks” with his face please ;D
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well anytime i got a weapon of anyone in the military ..you check it.
He’s an actor why would an actor assume there is a live round? It’s a movie set. I would assume it’s allset and been loaded by someone on the set with a blank.
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For what, have you even seen blank ammunition??? blanks are practically indistinguishable from real ammunition.. He would had not only had the ability to know the difference and if he did then there would be no reason to hire an armorer. He hired one because he doesn't know anything about guns or bullets.
I honestly would like to know how the fuck live ammunition ended up there in the first place. If there's evidence that brought it there to have more realistic scene then you can make an argument for manslaughter. But that just didnt happen. Im interested to hear what the DA is going to bring to trial.
One other thing...the DA hasn't even called them in to be arrested at all which would be typical. They are suppose to be booked in and usually released on a bond. That convinces me more that its a political stunt and a smear campaign
Exactly.
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We say to Alec Baldwin like this. "Alec. Sometimes bad luck happens." And he says yeah that's what it was.
So we ask him. "Alec. You ever see The Deer Hunter?"
Then you hand him the same gun, slap him across the face, and yell MAO! MAO! [slap] MAO!
Quick, cheap, highest television ratings ever. That's a million dollar idea. You guys can have that.
Damn Tape you got me crying over here! LOL ;
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Exactly.
I agree with you rob I am not even a liberal but this political horse shit and a shame society has come to this
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I believe this was brought up in the original thread about this, but you’d think sound technology would be at the point where blanks are obsolete.🤔
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I believe this was brought up in the original thread about this, but you’d think sound technology would be at the point where blanks are obsolete.🤔
It was a low budget film. Alec Baldwin is no longer an A lister and will take any job he can get.
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Hahahaha.
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I believe this was brought up in the original thread about this, but you’d think sound technology would be at the point where blanks are obsolete.🤔
His shots would all sound like:
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Was Baldwin the Asian shooter from Moneterrey last night? BOLO...
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Charge is manslaughter. The only thing political is the fact that it took this long to charge a democrat.
If this had been you you'd still be in the slammer waiting for a court date.
This was a movie set, not a Jenny Craig "before" shoot ... he wouldn't have been allowed anywhere near there.
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That the big oaf from happy Gilmore?
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For someone well known for their acting he is not playing the part of an innocent man well.
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They were trying to do this...
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He’s an actor why would an actor assume there is a live round? It’s a movie set. I would assume it’s allset and been loaded by someone on the set with a blank.
If he were a new actor, I might (with reservations) take the same perspective. Thing is, he's been handling guns on-set for over 30 years.
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That the big oaf from happy Gilmore?
Yup, Richard Keel
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Those memes of Baldwin are brutal but true.