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Thanks Nat, that was interesting! I've been discussing this with some of my doctors and so far no one is quite certain of anything. A theory is a theory until it is proven to be worthy of being a treatment.
Or something like that. ;D Sometimes I feel like a lab rat. ;D ;D
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Thanks Nat, that was interesting! I've been discussing this with some of my doctors and so far no one is quite certain of anything. A theory is a theory until it is proven to be worthy of being a treatment.
Or something like that. ;D Sometimes I feel like a lab rat. ;D ;D
Eggs, my friend. Lots of eggs.
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Big Pharma, more lies from those swindlers.
Made billions and billions off of statins. Pushing them on kids now too. (Sound familiar)?
Statins do not affect mortality it seems, so WAYYYYYYYYYYY over-used... Dont get your lipids real low either, more heart and health issues arise from that.
Cholesterol is very important...
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Big Pharma, more lies from those swindlers.
Made billions and billions off of statins. Pushing them on kids now too. (Sound familiar)?
Statins do not affect mortality it seems, so WAYYYYYYYYYYY over-used... Dont get your lipids real low either, more heart and health issues arise from that.
Cholesterol is very important...
Very interesting. Everybody’s body is different, but for me it has always seemed like too much bread, sugar, pasta, desserts, etc. is way more a problem than meat fat, eggs, butter, mayonnaise, etc. Also helps that this guy is a heart surgeon who sees it all up close and personal.
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Big Pharma, more lies from those swindlers.
Made billions and billions off of statins. Pushing them on kids now too. (Sound familiar)?
Statins do not affect mortality it seems, so WAYYYYYYYYYYY over-used... Dont get your lipids real low either, more heart and health issues arise from that.
Cholesterol is very important...
Statins hinder the production of memories , maybe a link to all the demintia we see these days
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Statins hinder the production of memories , maybe a link to all the demintia we see these days
Very possible.
Insulin resistance may also be a factor.
Insulin resistance is involved in many of today's health problems.
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Statins Are Associated With Increased Insulin Resistance and Secretion (http://Statins Are Associated With Increased Insulin Resistance and Secretion)
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Brutal if true
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Interesting….great video
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Very interesting. Everybody’s body is different, but for me it has always seemed like too much bread, sugar, pasta, desserts, etc. is way more a problem than meat fat, eggs, butter, mayonnaise, etc. Also helps that this guy is a heart surgeon who sees it all up close and personal.
Yes, carbs and sugar affect lipids much more than fats and oils. True (and brutal)..
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Big Pharma, more lies from those swindlers.
Made billions and billions off of statins. Pushing them on kids now too. (Sound familiar)?
Statins do not affect mortality it seems, so WAYYYYYYYYYYY over-used... Dont get your lipids real low either, more heart and health issues arise from that.
Cholesterol is very important...
I’m not sure where you’ve heard this, it’s well-established that statins reduce mortality in people at high risk for cardiovascular disease. Posting from my phone right now, but would be happy to furnish studies—although they’re not hard to find.
Statins hinder the production of memories , maybe a link to all the demintia we see these days
That’s not really something with a whole lot to support it. Some users may experience short-term reversible memory loss—which is acknowledged by drug manufacturers—but on the whole statin use is associated with decreased risk of dementia and other age-related cognitive deficits. Microclots and impaired circulation is often a factor in age-related dementia, hence the beneficial effect of statins in that regard.
Obviously it’s better to not need any medications. Statins, like any medication, carry the risk of side effects. But for your average American—overweight, sedentary, shit diet—the benefits likely outweigh the risks.
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I only follow Dr. Fauci for medical advices. I plan on attending his class next semester
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I’m not sure where you’ve heard this, it’s well-established that statins reduce mortality in people at high risk for cardiovascular disease. Posting from my phone right now, but would be happy to furnish studies—although they’re not hard to find.
That’s not really something with a whole lot to support it. Some users may experience short-term reversible memory loss—which is acknowledged by drug manufacturers—but on the whole statin use is associated with decreased risk of dementia and other age-related cognitive deficits. Microclots and impaired circulation is often a factor in age-related dementia, hence the beneficial effect of statins in that regard.
Obviously it’s better to not need any medications. Statins, like any medication, carry the risk of side effects. But for your average American—overweight, sedentary, shit diet—the benefits likely outweigh the risks.
Great post.
This video has nothing ground breaking in it.
Sugar is bad (EVERYONE knows this).
Life expectancy in 1900 was 46. So of course most Doctors wouldn’t have seen atherosclerotic heart disease.
Yes. Heart disease is still the leading cause of death despite the widespread use of statins. However, it’s better to die of heart disease at age 90 than age 50.
Unless people live forever heart disease will ALWAYS be the leading cause of death.
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I’m not sure where you’ve heard this, it’s well-established that statins reduce mortality in people at high risk for cardiovascular disease. Posting from my phone right now, but would be happy to furnish studies—although they’re not hard to find.
That’s not really something with a whole lot to support it. Some users may experience short-term reversible memory loss—which is acknowledged by drug manufacturers—but on the whole statin use is associated with decreased risk of dementia and other age-related cognitive deficits. Microclots and impaired circulation is often a factor in age-related dementia, hence the beneficial effect of statins in that regard.
Obviously it’s better to not need any medications. Statins, like any medication, carry the risk of side effects. But for your average American—overweight, sedentary, shit diet—the benefits likely outweigh the risks.
The overwhelming majority of statin research is funded by the labs that make statins. The last link is interesting regarding statins.
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/9/e007118
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7670393/
https://www.medpagetoday.com/cardiology/cardiobrief/56787
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/29/health/29iht-29well.9568465.html
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I’m not sure where you’ve heard this, it’s well-established that statins reduce mortality in people at high risk for cardiovascular disease. Posting from my phone right now, but would be happy to furnish studies—although they’re not hard to find.
That’s not really something with a whole lot to support it. Some users may experience short-term reversible memory loss—which is acknowledged by drug manufacturers—but on the whole statin use is associated with decreased risk of dementia and other age-related cognitive deficits. Microclots and impaired circulation is often a factor in age-related dementia, hence the beneficial effect of statins in that regard.
Obviously it’s better to not need any medications. Statins, like any medication, carry the risk of side effects. But for your average American—overweight, sedentary, shit diet—the benefits likely outweigh the risks.
cholesterol aids in forming memories, if you have low cholesterol its a problem
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-not-dementia-its-your-heart-medication/
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Great post.
This video has nothing ground breaking in it.
Sugar is bad (EVERYONE knows this).
Life expectancy in 1900 was 46. So of course most Doctors wouldn’t have seen atherosclerotic heart disease.
Yes. Heart disease is still the leading cause of death despite the widespread use of statins. However, it’s better to die of heart disease at age 90 than age 50.
Unless people live forever heart disease will ALWAYS be the leading cause of death.
The major reason life expectancies have increased is the great decrease in childhood mortality.
Improved surgical techniques are the reason people survive heart attacks, not statin use.
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Good stuff, IroNat! Good stuff!
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Bhanky says sugar is a superfood just like Anadrol.
He combines them for synergy.
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Low fat, low cholesterol...LOL.
KD = ketogenic diet
"For the hormonal system to function optimally, fat becomes an important macronutrient as it’s the backbone for steroid hormone production [81].
Cholesterol, a dietary fat component, is one of the building blocks for testosterone production [81]. Considering that high-fat diets (HFD) increase cholesterol levels, increases in dietary fat consumption have been suggested to potentially result in an increase in testosterone production [85].
It has been suggested that increases in testosterone concentrations resulting from a KD are related to the high dietary intake of cholesterol [88]."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8538516/
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Low fat, low cholesterol...LOL.
KD = ketogenic diet
"For the hormonal system to function optimally, fat becomes an important macronutrient as it’s the backbone for steroid hormone production [81].
Cholesterol, a dietary fat component, is one of the building blocks for testosterone production [81]. Considering that high-fat diets (HFD) increase cholesterol levels, increases in dietary fat consumption have been suggested to potentially result in an increase in testosterone production [85].
It has been suggested that increases in testosterone concentrations resulting from a KD are related to the high dietary intake of cholesterol [88]."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8538516/
Will read this.
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High cholesterol may protect against infections and atherosclerosis
https://academic.oup.com/qjmed/article/96/12/927/1533176
"Since elderly people with high LDL-C live as long or longer than those with low LDL-C, our analysis provides reason to question the validity of the cholesterol hypothesis. Moreover, our study provides the rationale for a re-evaluation of guidelines recommending pharmacological reduction of LDL-C in the elderly as a component of cardiovascular disease prevention strategies."
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/6/e010401?fbclid=IwAR2ctrIBpjoUjAZcdtdMhAt3U4b_J-9TYSEIXda51TCRGYNqrO12GRABXvM
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Check out this video on YT so you can read all the interesting comments from peoples experience with cholesterol and statins. Here was one comment that stood out to me:
@director2345
8 days ago
* I agree that the 'root cause' of atherosclerosis is damage to the artery lining (endothelium)...
* Cholesterol and other immune cells enter the damaged lining to repair it,
thus causing the formation
of arterial plaque..
* If we prevent the damage to the artery lining in the first place, then cholesterol would not have to repair anything...
* So, it seems that just lowering LDL cholesterol is not preventing damage to the artery lining.
* Diet, nutrition, supplements, exercise,
proper sleep, attitude, etc. are factors that can keep the artery lining smooth and undamaged so cholesterol can do its main function of feeding all the cells of the body.
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Satins prevent heart attacks.
Surgery treats them.
I’d much rather take statins than have surgery.
But I plan on living a LONG time.
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Do you take statins, Oak?
Are you up to date on all your vax boosters?
Do you wear a mask while around others?
Do you wear a condom during anal sex?
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Statins lower cholesterol, but not necessarily heart attack risk, study finds
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2022/03/14/statins-cholesterol-heart-attack-risk-study/3951647263844/
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Do you take statins, Oak?
Are you up to date on all your vax boosters?
Do you wear a mask while around others?
Do you wear a condom during anal sex?
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Statins lower cholesterol, but not necessarily heart attack risk, study finds
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2022/03/14/statins-cholesterol-heart-attack-risk-study/3951647263844/
From your link:
"Although statins undoubtedly reduce cholesterol, some trials showed that this translated into significant reductions in death, heart and stroke."
Thanks for backing my point.
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From your link:
"Although statins undoubtedly reduce cholesterol, some trials showed that this translated into significant reductions in death, heart and stroke."
Thanks for backing my point.
:)
Please answer my questions, Oak.
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This thread has lead me to look at a lot of stuff on the internet regarding heart disease. One conclusion I read is that statins are beneficial to people who have had cardiac trouble but have not shown to be helpful in a significant percentage to people with high cholesterol with no exiting heart disease.
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This guy is pretty smart on things like this.
eature=share
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I only follow Dr. Fauci for medical advices. I plan on attending his class next semester
To attend his class you must have at least 4 booster shots to protect against the deadly Covid.
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I’m not sure where you’ve heard this, it’s well-established that statins reduce mortality in people at high risk for cardiovascular disease. Posting from my phone right now, but would be happy to furnish studies—although they’re not hard to find.
Ive read that for folks with high cardiovascular risk (small percent) they can help mortality, but the millions of users with "Little to no" risk, its not affected.
So millions are using them for nothing. Also new cases of diabetes after using goes up in a big way... (All of this may have changed in the decade since the books Ive read) of course they were from "anti statin" Dr's).
NO matter what they help (or dont help), its a cash grab and way "over prescribed"...
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Just wondering, how many of you experts posting links have heart disease or had a heart attack and actually use statins?
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Decide for yourself based on your own research whether the benefits from taking statins will outweigh the possible side effects.
Don't just blindly follow your doctor's advices.
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Decide for yourself based on your own research whether the benefits from taking statins will outweigh the possible side effects.
Don't just blindly follow your doctor's advices.
Great idea!
What could possibly go wrong?
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IroNat,
Your peer-reviewed, double-blind, published intervention studies are no match for OAK’s memes. Just give up already.
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This thread has lead me to look at a lot of stuff on the internet regarding heart disease. One conclusion I read is that statins are beneficial to people who have had cardiac trouble but have not shown to be helpful in a significant percentage to people with high cholesterol with no exiting heart disease.
Good determination.
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The high death rates of people with Familial Hypercholesterolemia (FH) proves that very high LDL cholesterol isn’t a good thing.
Dallas Mccarver had tons of heart disease in his family and had established high cholesterol levels according to his autopsy, so he may have had FH. He had advanced atherosclerosis when he died which is very rare for someone age 26.
Rich Piana was way older, ate ice cream every night, and had very mild atherosclerosis so he definitely didn’t have FH.
FH is a genetic lipid disorder and most normal people without FH can lower their levels enough if they stop eating like pigs (saturated fat and refined carbs) and lose weight.
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The high death rates of people with Familial Hypercholesterolemia (FH) proves that very high LDL cholesterol isn’t a good thing.
Dallas Mccarver had tons of heart disease in his family and had established high cholesterol levels according to his autopsy, so he may have had FH. He had advanced atherosclerosis when he died which is very rare for someone age 26.
Rich Piana was way older, ate ice cream every night, and had very mild atherosclerosis so he definitely didn’t have FH.
FH is a genetic lipid disorder and most normal people without FH can lower their levels enough if they stop eating like pigs (saturated fat and refined carbs) and lose weight.
"Studies on the FH population, however, provide an extensive literature highlighting inconsistencies with the lipid hypothesis. For example, if LDL-C is inherently atherogenic, the burden of atherosclerosis should increase with the time of exposure to LDL-C. That is, cardiovascular mortality would be predicted to increase with age as a direct consequence of the time of exposure to LDL-C. To the contrary, CVD mortality in FH individuals declines with age [41]. Elderly individuals with FH exhibit an equivalent risk of CVD mortality to those in the non-FH population, despite a lifetime of exposure to high LDL-C. This finding directly conflicts with the dual component hypothesis that LDL-C is inherently atherogenic, and that CVD risk increases with the duration of LDL-C exposure [42]. That elderly FH individuals exposed to decades of high LDL-C demonstrate no increase in CVD mortality, as well as no increase in morbidity, for example, ischemic stroke [43], compared to the general population, undermines the lipid hypothesis, that is, that high LDL-C is inherently atherogenic.
Further challenging to the lipid hypothesis is that FH individuals have a lifetime all-cause mortality rate which is equivalent to, or even lower, than that of the general population [41,44–47]."
https://journals.lww.com/co-endocrinology/fulltext/2022/10000/statin_therapy_is_not_warranted_for_a_person_with.14.aspx
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KO by loco.
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"Studies on the FH population, however, provide an extensive literature highlighting inconsistencies with the lipid hypothesis. For example, if LDL-C is inherently atherogenic, the burden of atherosclerosis should increase with the time of exposure to LDL-C. That is, cardiovascular mortality would be predicted to increase with age as a direct consequence of the time of exposure to LDL-C. To the contrary, CVD mortality in FH individuals declines with age [41]. Elderly individuals with FH exhibit an equivalent risk of CVD mortality to those in the non-FH population, despite a lifetime of exposure to high LDL-C. This finding directly conflicts with the dual component hypothesis that LDL-C is inherently atherogenic, and that CVD risk increases with the duration of LDL-C exposure [42]. That elderly FH individuals exposed to decades of high LDL-C demonstrate no increase in CVD mortality, as well as no increase in morbidity, for example, ischemic stroke [43], compared to the general population, undermines the lipid hypothesis, that is, that high LDL-C is inherently atherogenic.
Further challenging to the lipid hypothesis is that FH individuals have a lifetime all-cause mortality rate which is equivalent to, or even lower, than that of the general population [41,44–47]."
https://journals.lww.com/co-endocrinology/fulltext/2022/10000/statin_therapy_is_not_warranted_for_a_person_with.14.aspx
Effect of Long-Term Exposure to Lower Low-Density Lipoprotein Cholesterol Beginning Early in Life on the Risk of Coronary Heart Disease: A Mendelian Randomization Analysisj
Methods
In a meta-analysis combining nonoverlapping data from 312,321 participants, long-term exposure to lower LDL-C was associated with a 54.5% reduction in the risk of CHD for each mmol/l (38.7 mg/dl) lower LDL-C.
Conclusions
Prolonged exposure to lower LDL-C beginning early in life is associated with a substantially greater reduction in the risk of CHD.
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They analyzed decades worth of blood tests of over 300,000 people and the relationship of CHD and LDL levels showed a linear relationship.
If you don’t believe this is an issue go on some FH Facebook groups and read the stories of 30/40 year olds with advanced heart disease when their LDL gets really high.
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Reductions in all-cause, cancer, and coronary mortality in statin-treated patients with heterozygous familial hypercholesterolaemia: a prospective registry study
Aims
To examine the changes in coronary, all-cause, and cancer mortality in patients with heterozygous familial hypercholesterolaemia (FH) before and after lipid-lowering therapy with statins.
Methods and results
A total of 3382 patients (1650 men) aged <80 years were recruited from 21 lipid clinics in the United Kingdom and followed prospectively between 1980 and 2006 for 46 580 person-years. There were 370 deaths, including 190 from coronary heart disease (CHD) and 90 from cancer. The standardized mortality ratio (compared with the population in England and Wales) was calculated before and from 1 January 1992. In patients aged 20–79 years, CHD mortality fell significantly by 37% (95% CI=7–56) from 3.4- to 2.1-fold excess. Primary prevention resulted in a 48% reduction in CHD mortality from 2.0-fold excess to none, with a smaller reduction of nearly 25% in patients with established disease. Coronary mortality was reduced more in women than in men. In patients without known CHD at registration, all-cause mortality from 1992 was 33% (21–43), lower than in the general population, mainly due to a 37% (21–50) lower risk of fatal cancer.
Conclusion
The results emphasize the importance of early identification of FH and treatment with statins.
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Why aren’t you posting the links to the sources you are citing?
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Reductions in all-cause, cancer, and coronary mortality in statin-treated patients with heterozygous familial hypercholesterolaemia: a prospective registry study
Aims
To examine the changes in coronary, all-cause, and cancer mortality in patients with heterozygous familial hypercholesterolaemia (FH) before and after lipid-lowering therapy with statins.
Methods and results
A total of 3382 patients (1650 men) aged <80 years were recruited from 21 lipid clinics in the United Kingdom and followed prospectively between 1980 and 2006 for 46 580 person-years. There were 370 deaths, including 190 from coronary heart disease (CHD) and 90 from cancer. The standardized mortality ratio (compared with the population in England and Wales) was calculated before and from 1 January 1992. In patients aged 20–79 years, CHD mortality fell significantly by 37% (95% CI=7–56) from 3.4- to 2.1-fold excess. Primary prevention resulted in a 48% reduction in CHD mortality from 2.0-fold excess to none, with a smaller reduction of nearly 25% in patients with established disease. Coronary mortality was reduced more in women than in men. In patients without known CHD at registration, all-cause mortality from 1992 was 33% (21–43), lower than in the general population, mainly due to a 37% (21–50) lower risk of fatal cancer.
Conclusion
The results emphasize the importance of early identification of FH and treatment with statins.
Game.
Set.
Match.
Thanks for posting!
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Game.
Set.
Match.
Thanks for posting!
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Would have been helpful if he'd posted the links.
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Anyone take vitamin K2(not to be confused with K aka K1) or get it in foods like Natto?
Vitamin K2 allegedly helps prevent arterial calcification and regulates calcium metabolism so it's properly deposited in bones and teeth.
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Anyone take vitamin K2(not to be confused with K aka K1) or get it in foods like Natto?
Vitamin K2 allegedly helps prevent arterial calcification and regulates calcium metabolism so it's properly deposited in bones and teeth.
If you supplement vitamin D or consume a lot of products fortified with vitamin D, which significantly increases calcium absorption, then yes, you should be supplementing vitamin K with your vitamin D for the reasons you mentioned.
If you are not obese and eat a high fat (vitamin D is fat soluble), low carb, whole foods, animal-based diet, then you don't need to supplement vitamin D or vitamin K, unless your vitamin D levels are low for some strange reason which should be looked at by a medical professional.
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Anyone take vitamin K2(not to be confused with K aka K1) or get it in foods like Natto?
Vitamin K2 allegedly helps prevent arterial calcification and regulates calcium metabolism so it's properly deposited in bones and teeth.
I do. D3, K2, CoQ10 and an absorbable form of magnesium seems useful but what the fuck do I know? I’m just a former sheet metal worker living with my parents and staying up all night reading the muscle books
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Anyone take vitamin K2(not to be confused with K aka K1) or get it in foods like Natto?
Vitamin K2 allegedly helps prevent arterial calcification and regulates calcium metabolism so it's properly deposited in bones and teeth.
I take Natto (12,000 FU) (at night as it makes me lethargic), Magnesium, D3-K2 (MK7), Real Red Yeast Rice (w/ Monacolin-K which is natural Lovastatin from the rice fermentation(Bought from other countries where its legal), CO-Q10, Niacin...
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If you supplement vitamin D or consume a lot of products fortified with vitamin D, which significantly increases calcium absorption, then yes, you should be supplementing vitamin K with your vitamin D for the reasons you mentioned.
If you are not obese and eat a high fat (vitamin D is fat soluble), low carb, whole foods, animal-based diet, then you don't need to supplement vitamin D or vitamin K, unless your vitamin D levels are low for some strange reason which should be looked at by a medical professional.
I would agree with you if you knew you were getting Quality food. In this day and age, that is not a given. If you buy 2 apples from different places, they will be different. One apple might have more nutrients than the other, or it might have more pesticides. Regardless if it says organic. Alot of lying to the public and the FDA not really protecting the consumer. That is why I would ALWAYS take supplements, regardless of how clean and healthy you think your diet is. Supplements fill in the gaps of what your diet might be missing and now a days, it's a lot.
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I would agree with you if you knew you were getting Quality food. In this day and age, that is not a given. If you buy 2 apples from different places, they will be different. One apple might have more nutrients than the other, or it might have more pesticides. Regardless if it says organic. Alot of lying to the public and the FDA not really protecting the consumer. That is why I would ALWAYS take supplements, regardless of how clean and healthy you think your diet is. Supplements fill in the gaps of what your diet might be missing and now a days, it's a lot.
even the amount of calories you eat is a rough guess
Take 10 Ribeye Steak, depending on its fat/lean meat ratio it could vary by 100 cals minimum
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You need to stop thinking anybody knows anything about anything.
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Anyone take vitamin K2(not to be confused with K aka K1) or get it in foods like Natto?
Vitamin K2 allegedly helps prevent arterial calcification and regulates calcium metabolism so it's properly deposited in bones and teeth.
Life Extension brand puts out a Super K product that is decent price and quality. It has 1500mcg of K1, 1000mcg of K2 as menaquinone-4, and 100 mcg of K2 as trans menaquinone-7. Seemed to be one of the best products on the market when I was looking for a K2 supplement. $19 for 90 pills. Says take 1 a day but I noticed that supplements work better when you find out how much YOUR body really needs. 1 pill might work for me but you might need 2 or more a day depending on your age and health. Not everyone is the same.
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I do. D3, K2, CoQ10 and an absorbable form of magnesium seems useful but what the fuck do I know? I’m just a former sheet metal worker living with my parents and staying up all night reading the muscle books
I take all 4 but the K2 is from the food natto.
What type of magnesium you take? I take glycinate or threonate.
I take Natto (12,000 FU) (at night as it makes me lethargic), Magnesium, D3-K2 (MK7), Real Red Yeast Rice (w/ Monacolin-K which is natural Lovastatin from the rice fermentation(Bought from other countries where its legal), CO-Q10, Niacin...
I eat the natto food which I get from a Japanese grocery store. I only eat what I estimate :P to be about 300 micrograms of MK7 a day. I haven't bought the nattokinase enzyme as a supplement yet or K2 tablets.
There are a lot of added benefits to fermentation like the rice fermentation you mentioned. Natto is fermented soy. I haven't tried black garlic(fermented garlic) yet but I want to because I read it tastes like dates, which I love :D. Even more health benefits than garlic but it doesn't stink or taste like raw onions.
I have a .55 lb(250 gram) container of niacin on my desk as I type. :D
What type of Magnesium do you take?
Black garlic:
(https://i.postimg.cc/VNrrBxzr/il-fullxfull-3244931401-jft5.webp)
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Life Extension brand puts out a Super K product that is decent price and quality. It has 1500mcg of K1, 1000mcg of K2 as menaquinone-4, and 100 mcg of K2 as trans menaquinone-7. Seemed to be one of the best products on the market when I was looking for a K2 supplement. $19 for 90 pills. Says take 1 a day but I noticed that supplements work better when you find out how much YOUR body really needs. 1 pill might work for me but you might need 2 or more a day depending on your age and health. Not everyone is the same.
Where I buy all my supplements. You can also purchase lab work from them and have the tests performed at Labcorp.
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This heart surgeon is probably next on Obama’s hit list. Can he swim?
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Published: July 19, 2023
"Prospective cohort study of 1,479 men aged 59.7±10.7 years was conducted between 1987 and 2012. At baseline, dyslipidemia markers of total cholesterol (TC), low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-C) and high-density lipoprotein cholesterol (HDL-C) were assessed as an exposure.
In utilizing clinically established criteria for dyslipidemia [3], the current study demonstrated that higher TC and LDL-C levels were paradoxically and independently associated with lower risk of all-cause mortality and better survival in men. These findings suggest the need for rigorous reevaluation of dyslipidemia risk and the utility of cholesterol lowering medications."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10355403/
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I take all 4 but the K2 is from the food natto.
What type of magnesium you take? I take glycinate or threonate.
I eat the natto food which I get from a Japanese grocery store. I only eat what I estimate :P to be about 300 micrograms of MK7 a day. I haven't bought the nattokinase enzyme as a supplement yet or K2 tablets.
There are a lot of added benefits to fermentation like the rice fermentation you mentioned. Natto is fermented soy. I haven't tried black garlic(fermented garlic) yet but I want to because I read it tastes like dates, which I love :D. Even more health benefits than garlic but it doesn't stink or taste like raw onions.
I have a .55 lb(250 gram) container of niacin on my desk as I type. :D
What type of Magnesium do you take?
Black garlic:
(https://i.postimg.cc/VNrrBxzr/il-fullxfull-3244931401-jft5.webp)
Great info!
Lately Ive been buying Nutricost supps for a lot of mine.
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I take all 4 but the K2 is from the food natto.
What type of magnesium you take? I take glycinate or threonate.
Glycinate lately my nikka
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Glycinate lately my nikka
Oh, snap! I uses ta take Magnesium Oxide but I was like heel naw cause dat shit made me feel nauseous and whatnot.
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Oh, snap! I uses ta take Magnesium Oxide but I was like heel naw cause dat shit made me feel nauseous and whatnot.
Poor absorption too, but I guess they know this and load up the dose in the capsules because of it. MY NIKKA
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Poor absorption too, but I guess they know this and load up the dose in the capsules because of it. MY NIKKA
Oxide may be the only one that's non-chelated. It's what I imagine an appetite suppressant to feel like. Word out, homie.
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LDL-C does not cause cardiovascular disease: a comprehensive review of the current literature
For half a century, a high level of total cholesterol (TC) or low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-C) has been considered to be the major cause of atherosclerosis and cardiovascular disease (CVD), and statin treatment has been widely promoted for cardiovascular prevention. However, there is an increasing understanding that the mechanisms are more complicated and that statin treatment, in particular when used as primary prevention, is of doubtful benefit.
The hypothesis that high TC or LDL-C causes atherosclerosis and CVD has been shown to be false by numerous observations and experiments.
The fact that high LDL-C is beneficial in terms of overall lifespan has been ignored by researchers who support the lipid hypothesis.
The assertion that statin treatment is beneficial has been kept alive by individuals who have ignored the results from trials with negative outcomes and by using deceptive statistics.
That statin treatment has many serious side effects has been minimized by individuals who have used a misleading trial design and have ignored reports from independent researchers.
That high LDL-C is the cause of CVD in FH is questionable because LDL-C does not differ between untreated FH individuals with and without CVD.
Millions of people all over the world, including many with no history of heart disease, are taking statins, and PCSK-9 inhibitors to lower LDL-C further are now being promoted, despite unproven benefits and serious side effects.
We suggest that clinicians should abandon the use of statins and PCSK-9 inhibitors and instead identify and target the actual causes of CVD.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17512433.2018.1519391
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50% of all heart attack patients have normal cholesterol levels
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50% of all heart attack patients have normal cholesterol levels
I saw a study that showed folks w/ very low lipid profiles have more heart disease.
Cholesterol is important and protective...
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50% of all heart attack patients have normal cholesterol levels
Basically two kinds of heart attacks; clog or heart electrical disturbance. A huge number of clog heart attacks the person has low cholesterol. If I high cholesterol is the problem how do they account for people having heart attacks with low cholesterol? It's not as simple as having the wrong ratios of HDL's to LDL's. Some say the biggest predictor is inflammation. It can be tested with a C-reactive protein test or a CRP.
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Eggs, my friend. Lots of eggs.
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You da man, Taff!
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:D I once worked for this company that had a health fair for the employees where we had our cholesterol, sugar, BP, etc checked. My buddy was a bodybuilder and this 300 pound landwhale nurse was telling him he needs to eat more of this and less of that and he said "well, I'm ripped and you're fat so I'll just keep doing what I'm doing." The look on her face was priceless.
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Big Pharma, more lies from those swindlers.
Made billions and billions off of statins. Pushing them on kids now too. (Sound familiar)?
Statins do not affect mortality it seems, so WAYYYYYYYYYYY over-used... Dont get your lipids real low either, more heart and health issues arise from that.
Cholesterol is very important...
shit pharma wants peeps to be sick
ie. sick peeps=more cash for these greedy sacks of shit
throw big food into the mix as well, looking out for our health my ass
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:D I once worked for this company that had a health fair for the employees where we had our cholesterol, sugar, BP, etc checked. My buddy was a bodybuilder and this 300 pound landwhale nurse was telling him he needs to eat more of this and less of that and he said "well, I'm ripped and you're fat so I'll just keep doing what I'm doing." The look on her face was priceless.
Same happened to me. A 300lb nurse told me to watch my cholesterol and to get a little exercise.
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Same happened to me. A 300lb nurse told me to watch my cholesterol and to get a little exercise.
I watch my cholesterol to make sure it doesn't cook past medium rare.
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Same happened to me. A 300lb nurse told me to watch my cholesterol and to get a little exercise.
Same nurses most likely smoke too lol
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https://news.mst.edu/2021/03/new-cellular-treatment-could-cure-chronic-artery-disease/
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I watch my cholesterol to make sure it doesn't cook past medium rare.
8) Nice one.
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https://www.agriorganics.com/serrapeptase-new/
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They just want us sick, it's a business. Business is business (money)
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They just want us sick, it's a business. Business is business (money)
Yep, the pharmaceutical companies have to pay their bills.
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I only follow health advices from Dr. Samuel Sulek
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Life Extension brand puts out a Super K product that is decent price and quality. It has 1500mcg of K1, 1000mcg of K2 as menaquinone-4, and 100 mcg of K2 as trans menaquinone-7. Seemed to be one of the best products on the market when I was looking for a K2 supplement. $19 for 90 pills. Says take 1 a day but I noticed that supplements work better when you find out how much YOUR body really needs. 1 pill might work for me but you might need 2 or more a day depending on your age and health. Not everyone is the same.
Life Extension is top notch, only vitamins I use.
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Sanjay Gupta on statins
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EIqJhvuQgUU