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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Dave D on August 30, 2023, 10:13:27 PM
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What does everyone think about Phil sharing his use?
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Liar
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Phil never took insulin he says, so his GUT is from GH he claims to took in 2008, and he maxed out at 1750mg of test but it was too much so he reduced to 1300mg :D
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Phil never took insulin he says, so his GUT is from GH he claims to took in 2008, and he maxed out at 1750mg of test but it was too much so he reduced to 1300mg :D
1750mg test is a lot
1750mg of pharm-grade test + tren + deca + high-dose GH... yeah, I don't think he's lying. You can build a pro physique with that.
There are diminishing returns to taking crazy doses like 3000mg test per week on top of everything else. And the guys who try the crazy doses are the ones who end up dead.
You can build a very good physique on low doses -- 500mg/week or less -- if you stay on indefinitely and put your time in the gym.
So I don't know, bros. Say what you will about Phil, I think he's being honest here.
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He said he did not take tren but I find that hard to believe.
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Heath on Heath, the getbig years:
Yo, Yo, Yo!
Just wanted to chime in and say thanks for the posts, as they've been pretty cool. I can only say that the pics are real and that I specifically trained for my first show in October of '02 and weigh around 190lbs. I find it interesting how some speculate what I was so called "doing/taking" while playing bball, but they fail to realize that the damn NCAA actually tests, and guess who got tested...me. I was the one getting tested because of how I was able to gain muscle faster than others, but I didn't even trip because my whole family is athletic. I weighed in at 192lbs for the Northern CO (apr '03) then 196lbs (june '03). I wasn't as sharp as the first show because I graduated three wks out from college and didn't follow the bber gameplan if you can catch my drift. I didn't really diet at all because of my friends telling me that I've got good genetics. I ain't saying that I'm superior over anyone, so let's stop that right there, but understand that I was made for this sport just like LeBron and Tiger were for theirs and no one can tell me different because if it was that easy, then everyone could do it.
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hey phil could you please tell us if you really started to lift only 4 years ago?
To answer this question, YES! I began training as of October 8th, 2002 after I realized basketball wasn't gonna pay for anything but my college tuition. I know it sounds strange or unrealistic, but I was a division 1-a collegiate athlete which puts me amongst some of the best athletes in the country. I should've played football with my type of build, but basketball seemed to pay off at the time and now bodybuilding is. Many wanna hate and discredit my success based on me only competing for 3-4 years (apr 03-present) and still wannna say that I'm not telling the truth about my training years, but listen, I played hoops for The University of Denver Pioneers from 98-02 which would place me as a hooper not bodybuilder. No way could I have been lifting as a bodybuilder and playing hoops at the same time or my coaches would've sent my butt home as I wouldn't be able to run, jump, etc. I hope that settles everything and now back to the show!
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He said he did not take tren but I find that hard to believe.
MAYBE,but again they only tell you part of the story ,and also they only tell you what worked ,not what didn't like stuff they used that either didn't improve there look or what messed them up or what gave them bad health condition.
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What does everyone think about Phil sharing his use?
Who fuckin nose?
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1750mg test is a lot
1750mg of pharm-grade test + tren + deca + high-dose GH... yeah, I don't think he's lying. You can build a pro physique with that.
There are diminishing returns to taking crazy doses like 3000mg test per week on top of everything else. And the guys who try the crazy doses are the ones who end up dead.
You can build a very good physique on low doses -- 500mg/week or less -- if you stay on indefinitely and put your time in the gym.
So I don't know, bros. Say what you will about Phil, I think he's being honest here.
Imagine if this information on the la s of diminishing returns was shared with a young Dallas.
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College hoops wasn't lucrative so he went for the goldmine of bodybuilding.
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Imagine if this information on the la s of diminishing returns was shared with a young Dallas.
You still get returns. They’re just small. At the pro level, the last little bit helps.
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Who fuckin nose?
😆 I never liked him as a Mr o but he def had great receptors. Prefer his physique to Jay's though, even with his clavicles being so short.
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Primadonna Philsulina
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Who fuckin nose?
Nostrildamus nose.
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I tend to believe that some of the best guys didn't take as much as the mean. Phil had Hany and the best food and he was very driven with elite of elite genetics. With his genetics I believe it's possible. It's the tier 3-4 pros and some long-time top amateurs that drug it up more than the top guys.
Phil is a legend. Hate him all you want, he's an all time great. Overall from head to tow, his back double is only behind Ronnie's and that's the best of Ronnie. My top five of all time in no order is Haney, Dorian, Ronnie, Phil and Flex Wheeler.
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1750mg test is a lot
1750mg of pharm-grade test
No,it's not.
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No,it's not.
In the 90s, even 1000mg/week of test was considered a fairly serious cycle.
Granted, deca and orals were more popular back then, but a lot of very big guys were on 2000-3000 mg/week in total.
People just respond differently. Phil was lean and muscular as a basketball player, and was a hyper-responder to gear. (For whatever reason, it's usually guys who are naturally lean who will respond best.)
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Guys blessed with great muscle genetics need less everything to become more.
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Pat Banya
Phil needed gear and hgh. All Pat needed was a supply of sweet potatoes and a microwave.
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I wouldn't trust anything he says regarding this topic, like I wouldn't ever trust Flex Wheeler. Phil is so insecure, why would he bare all? I didn't watch the video but if he admits 1750mg of test that's quite an admissipn because it's a substansial amount. Of course he did tren. It's not like tren is a must actually, you can achieve the same with other steroids but it is still seen as a must and a clear advantage. I'm positive he did use insulin. And the GH is very very important and probably the dosage was something that would shock many fans. I'm sure Jay and Hany made sure of that. Dante Doggcrapp said you could see hyperresponders from whether their nose grows from GH, and this might be true. And we've seen Phil's nose.
Some fella who said he was asked to possibly "sponsor" Phil when he was an amateur said he ultimately didn't take GH before he turned pro, but it was a consideration then already. But are we to believe he competed several years as a pro without taking GH? No, it just doesn't make sense. Why would you hold back on the GH?
Yes Phil has great bodybuilding genetics.
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I tend to believe that some of the best guys didn't take as much as the mean. Phil had Hany and the best food and he was very driven with elite of elite genetics
Remember when Lee Priest said Hany pushed all these drugs on him and he lied and said he was taking them, taking like only a couple out of the 8 prescribed drugs or whatever it was? Lol, Hany was pissed.
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Phil had good muscle shape but he clearly had to mega dose everything to compete with mass monsters like kai.
He had good genetics when it came to fullness and arms, but he had to compensate for the narrow clavicles.
His nose, head and stomach issues are signs he was mega dosing hgh and most likely skin. It's also a sign that he was a good responder.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha!
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I'm positive he did use insulin. And the GH is very very important and probably the dosage was something that would shock many fans. I'm sure Jay and Hany made sure of that. Dante Doggcrapp said you could see hyperresponders from whether their nose grows from GH, and this might be true. And we've seen Phil's nose.
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Taking insulin is a must if you’re taking any bigger amounts of gh, like 5IU or more .. gh induces insulin resistance to the point where your body can’t supply enough insulin by itself to control blood sugar levels.
As to Phil, it looked like he would go easy on the dosages in the off-season and really kick up the dose + androgens to grow into the show. I could honestly believe him being on like 1g test + 10IU gh in the off season, and like 1g test + 1g tren + 1g orals +10iu gh precontest.
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Phil is too short to count. Midgets don't count goddamn it. It's easier for them to fill out/thicken up and they can never hit the rear lat spread correctly(except for Franco, but he had the torso of a man and the limbs of a midget) and next to a taller(5'9 lolz) bodybuilder they look like bastard children.
The rumor about Phil was that he did intravenous GH for 45 minutes in the gym owner's office before lifting.
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More importantly, who is the most genetically gifted Getbigger?
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In the 90s, even 1000mg/week of test was considered a fairly serious cycle.
Granted, deca and orals were more popular back then, but a lot of very big guys were on 2000-3000 mg/week in total.
People just respond differently. Phil was lean and muscular as a basketball player, and was a hyper-responder to gear. (For whatever reason, it's usually guys who are naturally lean who will respond best.)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha!
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Yeah, because all pros need 3000mg/week test + other anabolics + insulin + GH. ::)
Some guys take more -- like Dallas and most of the other guys who have died or retired for health reasons. And, of course, tons of guys take that much test and still look like total shit.
But some guys can get away with less -- sometimes quite a lot less -- especially if they're "on" all the time and don't do the whole two-steps-forward-one-step-back cycling thing.
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Yeah, because all pros need 3000mg/week test + other anabolics + insulin + GH. ::)
Some guys take more -- like Dallas and most of the other guys who have died or retired for health reasons. And, of course, tons of guys take that much test and still look like total shit.
But some guys can get away with less -- sometimes quite a lot less -- especially if they're "on" all the time and don't do the whole two-steps-forward-one-step-back cycling thing.
Hahahaha.
The most advanced competitors are just going to take a little bit and resist taking more and more to be better than the competition that is always taking more and improving.
Because they are so naturally good
I guess you have tried this yourself and was a waking monster taking just 2g shitty test.
The fuck is wrong with people being so naive.
Do you even understand how totally impossible it is to be 300 lbs of pure muscle with 4% body fat? Try dieting down once and see how much "muscle" you will keep,you will be left with nothing
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Hahahaha.
The most advanced competitors are just going to take a little bit and resist taking more and more to be better than the competition that is always taking more and improving.
Because they are so naturally good
I guess you have tried this yourself and was a waking monster taking just 2g shitty test.
The fuck is wrong with people being so naive.
Do you even understand how totally impossible it is to be 300 lbs of pure muscle with 4% body fat? Try dieting down once and see how much "muscle" you will keep,you will be left with nothing
If 1750mg/week of testosterone is a low dosage for you, how much do you imagine pros take? Keep in mind they're using GH/Insulin and certain amounts of other anabolics, also.
3000mg/week in total -- like 1750mg/week test, 750mg/week deca, 500mg/week dianabol -- is more then enough for anybody, especially if you add high doses of GH and insulin, and especially if you never come off.
BTW, Phil Heath was like 240 pounds in competition shape... far from 300.
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If 1750mg/week of testosterone is a low dosage for you, how much do you imagine pros take? Keep in mind they're using GH/Insulin and certain amounts of other anabolics, also.
3000mg/week in total -- like 1750mg/week test, 750mg/week deca, 500mg/week dianabol -- is more then enough for anybody, especially if you add high doses of GH and insulin, and especially if you never come off.
BTW, Phil Heath was like 240 pounds in competition shape... far from 300.
Ok. Phil is lighter
My guess is Phil would take
3g test
2g Deca
1g EQ
1g Mast
300mg Drol or 150mg Dbol a day
20-30 IU GH a day
Insulin
Synthol
That is the lowest I would guess if he"s gifted.
Let's not forget that Phil is a liar and would absolutely downplay his drug use to make his achievements look greater.
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Ok. Phil is lighter
My guess is Phil would take
3g test
2g Deca
1g EQ
1g Mast
300mg Drol or 150mg Dbol a day
20-30 IU GH a day
Insulin
Synthol
That is the lowest I would guess if he"s gifted.
Let's not forget that Phil is a liar and would absolutely downplay his drug use to make his achievements look greater.
And waxy maize starch.
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Ok. Phil is lighter
My guess is Phil would take
3g test
2g Deca
1g EQ
1g Mast
300mg Drol or 150mg Dbol a day
20-30 IU GH a day
Insulin
Synthol
That is the lowest I would guess if he"s gifted.
Let's not forget that Phil is a liar and would absolutely downplay his drug use to make his achievements look greater.
8-9g plus 20-30iu gh? Cmon
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Ok. Phil is lighter
My guess is Phil would take
3g test
2g Deca
1g EQ
1g Mast
300mg Drol or 150mg Dbol a day
20-30 IU GH a day
Insulin
Synthol
That is the lowest I would guess if he"s gifted.
Let's not forget that Phil is a liar and would absolutely downplay his drug use to make his achievements look greater.
I can always tell people have no idea when they just start listing shit like this they are still thinking in mg. You need to think in cc. The above cycle at 200mg is 7 grams or 35cc no one is shooting 35cc a week. You can't just hit the same spot again and again with volume of oil you will get problems your internal inflammation will be so bad you can't even inject. There is a limiting factor with this stuff. You only have so many spots and your muscle can only absorb so much oil each week. The most insane psychopath is still going to max out at 21cc or 1 3cc shot a day or about 4 grams due to this and that is going to be difficult to maintain as each site is going to need about a week to absorb 2-3cc and you don't have 7 large muscle groups. High doses are going to get old real quick.
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I can always tell people have no idea when they just start listing shit like this they are still thinking in mg. You need to think in cc. The above cycle at 200mg is 7 grams or 35cc no one is shooting 35cc a week. You can't just hit the same spot again and again with volume of oil you will get problems your internal inflammation will be so bad you can't even inject. There is a limiting factor with this stuff. You only have so many spots and your muscle can only absorb so much oil each week. The most insane psychopath is still going to max out at 21cc or 1 3cc shot a day or about 4 grams due to this and that is going to be difficult to maintain as each site is going to need about a week to absorb 2-3cc and you don't have 7 large muscle groups. High doses are going to get old real quick.
Fuck off moron. I shot 8cc once weekly in one injection,no problem.
If I wanted to I could have every day. Idiot
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Im not. fan of Phil Heath but I believe him on the dosage claim, but the insulin claim is debatable,when you consider his modern bodybuilding fullness look.
You hold back on HGH use and even high mgs, basically as you should approach the sport wanting to turn pro on as little as possible to give yourself somewhere to go after your turn pro.
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;D
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???
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Fuck off moron. I shot 8cc once weekly in one injection,no problem.
If I wanted to I could have every day. Idiot
No you couldn't say 1 maybe but then you are I he ting into already Inflammwd tissue scar tissue will develop your muscle will not absorb 35cc a week you will get large painful cyst you wont be able to move much less workout. Additionally, too much gear destroys your appetite not exactly what you want to do when trying to gain muscle. There is a happy medium of moderate dosages to grow too much and you will just get sick and actually lose size destroy you digestion and appetite as well as overly stress your entire system even your immune system won't be able to handle the toxins you will get sick. But you know bullshit you dont know a damn thing if you did you wouldnt think someone is blasting 35 cc of gear plus orals they would be in hospital not the gym or kitchen
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1750mg test is a lot
1750mg of pharm-grade test + tren + deca + high-dose GH... yeah, I don't think he's lying. You can build a pro physique with that.
There are diminishing returns to taking crazy doses like 3000mg test per week on top of everything else. And the guys who try the crazy doses are the ones who end up dead.
You can build a very good physique on low doses -- 500mg/week or less -- if you stay on indefinitely and put your time in the gym.
So I don't know, bros. Say what you will about Phil, I think he's being honest here.
I agree. More than 1000-1200mg of test a week is a waste
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No you couldn't say 1 maybe but then you are I he ting into already Inflammwd tissue scar tissue will develop your muscle will not absorb 35cc a week you will get large painful cyst you wont be able to move much less workout. Additionally, too much gear destroys your appetite not exactly what you want to do when trying to gain muscle. There is a happy medium of moderate dosages to grow too much and you will just get sick and actually lose size destroy you digestion and appetite as well as overly stress your entire system even your immune system won't be able to handle the toxins you will get sick. But you know bullshit you dont know a damn thing if you did you wouldnt think someone is blasting 35 cc of gear plus orals they would be in hospital not the gym or kitchen
Well, it depends. Aside from the argument over whether it works or is needed, some can do a lot of volume. My friend was talking to a certain Mr O competitor and during their conversation he loaded and shot 5 syringes with 5cc each. A glute can often take 10cc easy especially if you have a massive ass. A glute may have like 4 spots you can alternate too. There is also a difference between people how sore and inflamed their sites get, some may be be sensitive and even get a fever occasionally but far from all. It's also very common to hit whatever muscle you are training that day with a couple off cc. And then you may have the pure SEO on top. I have small chicken legs and I can put 5cc in there no problem. Each thigh may have 4 or 5 different spots you can use so you don't hit exactly the same spot each time. Recently a friend bought 300cc of test e but he couldn't use it because of post injection pain, was like golf ball sized lump, but I tolerated it well, just a small sensation at the spot, which went away completely when I cut the Test with something else. This guy made his dealer take back a few hundred Karachi Sust due to pain but they were comfortable for me.
Do you still get sore injection sites? When I started I sometimes had such painful sites I couldn't sleep on that side or was almost limping walking around. But all that went away with time, I don't know why. Now I can do 5cc in the thigh no problem whereas 1cc would cripple me when starting out.
Looking at pros they often use a less than amazing cook. You can tell if they have huge lumps on their ass at comps. Some can do painless 400mg test where others have painful 200mg test.
So I think someone could do 35cc a week almost comfortably but just the preparing and injecting gets very old quickly and many can't wait for a little break after comps.
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Just like LeBron and Tiger
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Well, it depends. Aside from the argument over whether it works or is needed, some can do a lot of volume. My friend was talking to a certain Mr O competitor and during their conversation he loaded and shot 5 syringes with 5cc each. A glute can often take 10cc easy especially if you have a massive ass. A glute may have like 4 spots you can alternate too. There is also a difference between people how sore and inflamed their sites get, some may be be sensitive and even get a fever occasionally but far from all. It's also very common to hit whatever muscle you are training that day with a couple off cc. And then you may have the pure SEO on top. I have small chicken legs and I can put 5cc in there no problem. Each thigh may have 4 or 5 different spots you can use so you don't hit exactly the same spot each time. Recently a friend bought 300cc of test e but he couldn't use it because of post injection pain, was like golf ball sized lump, but I tolerated it well, just a small sensation at the spot, which went away completely when I cut the Test with something else. This guy made his dealer take back a few hundred Karachi Sust due to pain but they were comfortable for me.
Do you still get sore injection sites? When I started I sometimes had such painful sites I couldn't sleep on that side or was almost limping walking around. But all that went away with time, I don't know why. Now I can do 5cc in the thigh no problem whereas 1cc would cripple me when starting out.
Looking at pros they often use a less than amazing cook. You can tell if they have huge lumps on their ass at comps. Some can do painless 400mg test where others have painful 200mg test.
So I think someone could do 35cc a week almost comfortably but just the preparing and injecting gets very old quickly and many can't wait for a little break after comps.
Guaranteed Brian gets shitty bunk gear, he couldnt persuade anyone to like him enough not to shit on him.
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Fuck off moron. I shot 8cc once weekly in one injection,no problem.
If I wanted to I could have every day. Idiot
Beautiful knockout of O'Hankins.
Well done, sir.
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Nice Breitling Avenger Blackbird 44mm ( ~ $5000 )
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Sketchy people wear Breitling.
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Ronnie is more genetically gifted than Phil, imo.
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Off topic :
Nice Breitling Avenger Blackbird 44mm ( ~ $5000 )
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Sketchy people wear Breitling.
Look at his Tiny tiny frame
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Look at his Tiny tiny frame
case in point
(https://i.postimg.cc/FRDNh285/Screenshot-20230902-203706.jpg)
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His body and physique deteriorated really quickly though, he said he didn’t start seriously lifting until late 2002, which is believable. Around 10 years time his physique looked worn out, palumboism set in. My guess is he cycled high dosages during all those years and hit the gas hard. Enough to win 7 titles and faded quickly after. It was worth it though to him
Unlike Phil you could tell Ronnie started hitting the gas hard in 97/98 when he first won his O, and continued. Before he most likely on “moderate” dosages before Levrone and wheeler gave him “advices”
Phil went all in quick and effectively, a little luck and won all those O’s
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He went from having no distention in 2005 to having a gut 3 years later
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He went from having no distention in 2005 to having a gut 3 years later
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It’s obvious Phil is genetically gifted for bodybuilding, he’s one of the best bb of all time. Let me preface this by saying I wouldn’t know what is considered “a lot” or “a little” when it comes to drugs, I assumed when he said he only took 1750 mg of whatever that is not much when compared to everyone else seems ludicrous. Maybe it’s not but history has proven these guys lie and always want their work ethic to get credit for their physique.
Phil is not known for his training intensity.
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I thing that this guy was was one of the most genetically gifted pro’s. Would’ve been tough to beat if he was taller.
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I thing that this guy was was one of the most genetically gifted pro’s. Would’ve been tough to beat if he was taller.
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:)
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Franco had a great build for a guy who just took cybergenics ;D
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I think Phil is just genetically gifted, srs
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Well, it depends. Aside from the argument over whether it works or is needed, some can do a lot of volume. My friend was talking to a certain Mr O competitor and during their conversation he loaded and shot 5 syringes with 5cc each. A glute can often take 10cc easy especially if you have a massive ass. A glute may have like 4 spots you can alternate too. There is also a difference between people how sore and inflamed their sites get, some may be be sensitive and even get a fever occasionally but far from all. It's also very common to hit whatever muscle you are training that day with a couple off cc. And then you may have the pure SEO on top. I have small chicken legs and I can put 5cc in there no problem. Each thigh may have 4 or 5 different spots you can use so you don't hit exactly the same spot each time. Recently a friend bought 300cc of test e but he couldn't use it because of post injection pain, was like golf ball sized lump, but I tolerated it well, just a small sensation at the spot, which went away completely when I cut the Test with something else. This guy made his dealer take back a few hundred Karachi Sust due to pain but they were comfortable for me.
Do you still get sore injection sites? When I started I sometimes had such painful sites I couldn't sleep on that side or was almost limping walking around. But all that went away with time, I don't know why. Now I can do 5cc in the thigh no problem whereas 1cc would cripple me when starting out.
Looking at pros they often use a less than amazing cook. You can tell if they have huge lumps on their ass at comps. Some can do painless 400mg test where others have painful 200mg test.
So I think someone could do 35cc a week almost comfortably but just the preparing and injecting gets very old quickly and many can't wait for a little break after comps.
One must feel like a champion athlete after all that, ready for anything, a yoga class, a street fight...
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Off topic :
Nice Breitling Avenger Blackbird 44mm ( ~ $5000 )
(https://i.postimg.cc/GpLSG86n/Screenshot-20230902-193456.jpg)
Sketchy people wear Breitling.
Lol. Now, now. You get access to the breitling tent @ riat with a watch so it's worth it. Phil has probably perfected the art of stealing bracelets with a simple handshake by now.
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Lol. Now, now. You get access to the breitling tent @ riat with a watch so it's worth it. Phil has probably perfected the art of stealing bracelets with a simple handshake by now.
hahahaha !
good catch
I can clearly picture Phillip at an airshow, in a Bretiling hospitality tent, chugging down all the free beer he can before attempting his little 'ala kazam' trick on other attendees.
(https://i.postimg.cc/02HCkQBP/IMG-20230905-152534-108.jpg)
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My friend was talking to a certain Mr O competitor and during their conversation he loaded and shot 5 syringes with 5cc each.
Hahahaha, what?!
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(https://i.postimg.cc/02HCkQBP/IMG-20230905-152534-108.jpg)
Always loved this gif
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there is no way you going to take in 1000g+ of carbs a day for weeks on end - esp taking a bunch of anabolics
there is going to be some sort of insulin manipulation for appetite as well as carb absorption when you take in that many on a consistent basis
you can eat all the food you want but if you aren't breaking it down and digesting it peoplerly OR 6-7 meals you're having to FORCE down ??
he may not of taken insulin but metformin maybe ? I think most of Haneys guys take slin to some extent - otherwise the carbs aren't going to fill you up as fast and as much
I remember like Lightweight bros at USAs who would "low dose" slin with carb meals - they would take like 5iu with each carb meal to "fill out"
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there is no way you going to take in 1000g+ of carbs a day for weeks on end - esp taking a bunch of anabolics
there is going to be some sort of insulin manipulation for appetite as well as carb absorption when you take in that many on a consistent basis
you can eat all the food you want but if you aren't breaking it down and digesting it peoplerly OR 6-7 meals you're having to FORCE down ??
he may not of taken insulin but metformin maybe ? I think most of Haneys guys take slin to some extent - otherwise the carbs aren't going to fill you up as fast and as much
I remember like Lightweight bros at USAs who would "low dose" slin with carb meals - they would take like 5iu with each carb meal to "fill out"
He’s taken everything under the sun, who are we kidding, but got out when his body started to deteriorate
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He has a hernia there
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He’s taken everything under the sun, who are we kidding, but got out when his body started to deteriorate
^^^^ THIS.....they all do regardless of their bogus bullshit claims.
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He has a hernia there
That`s the only thing you have in common with Phil.
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this guy, he worked a full time job, ate garbage and still grew.
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It's amazing how hard the Palumboism hit just Phil's gut. I have a bit different definition of Palumboism than you dudes but to me it isn't just the gut distension and turnip thighs and arm and calf atrophy, it's the look of being "burned at a cellular level", like they are no longer composed of flesh but some burned out substance. It's not just the gut there but that weirdass "composed of undead flesh" look to Phil's midsection that is horrifying.
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Off topic :
Nice Breitling Avenger Blackbird 44mm ( ~ $5000 )
(https://i.postimg.cc/GpLSG86n/Screenshot-20230902-193456.jpg)
Sketchy people wear Breitling.
His nose looks like it's a 65mm...
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Remember when Lee Priest said Hany pushed all these drugs on him and he lied and said he was taking them, taking like only a couple out of the 8 prescribed drugs or whatever it was? Lol, Hany was pissed.
You sure you're thinking of Lee? He was very vocal about not using coaches and Hany came on the scene after him
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You sure you're thinking of Lee? He was very vocal about not using coaches and Hany came on the scene after him
I fucking hate Handy Rimjob, midget bald fucking middle eastern retard
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Franco had a great build for a guy who just took cybergenics ;D
He had great shape and proportions. It's a bit surprising he lost the overall NPC National title to Troy Zuccolotto.
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He had great shape and proportions. It's a bit surprising he lost the overall NPC National title to Troy Zuccolotto.
I thought so too, the USA and Nationals were something else back then
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He had great shape and proportions. It's a bit surprising he lost the overall NPC National title to Troy Zuccolotto.
IMO,he was a far better bodybuilder than Troy,but Weider featured Troy in his mags........he didn`t feature Santoriello......politic s ???
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He's playing off the naivete.
Like many people on here.
Some of us lived the life and knew people who played the game.
I know amateur guys who took over 5000mg of injectables a week for YEARS on end.
Guys who took 200mg of Drol a day for months.
All of them still alive today.
Imagine what these guys who nuked their organs were on?
A really good friend of mine who competed in Strongman was 280 pounds and 6'4".
Solid as a rock.
For 7 years he was on over 5g's of gear, mainly Test and Deca. Also was on 10iu of GH for 5 years.
Today he's 48 and has 4 children. Never had a single health scare and abuse AAS/GH for over 15 years.
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IMO,he was a far better bodybuilder than Troy,but Weider featured Troy in his mags........he didn`t feature Santoriello......politic s ???
I'd say more marketability, a blonde-haired, blue-eyed surfer guy. Vince McMahon played that up to the hilt when Zuccolotto went to the WBF.