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Title: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 17, 2023, 08:17:42 AM
Get-Big = last man standing!
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Post by: joswift on November 17, 2023, 08:18:46 AM
Go4it looking lean
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 17, 2023, 08:19:15 AM
Just tried to go to the “ MD forums “ looks like they are already gone ….
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: affeman on November 17, 2023, 08:22:10 AM
They failed to hop on the digital train years ago.
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Post by: That_Dude on November 17, 2023, 08:31:15 AM
In the early 2000's MD was the best mag by far. Used to enjoy Valentino's rambling freak column. Mag also had good pro features every month, a long with the featured female fitness hottie pictorials  ;D
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 17, 2023, 08:36:17 AM
So where does Ron Harris go from here?
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 17, 2023, 08:52:21 AM
So where does Ron Harris go from here?
No joke ….. pretty sure that’s his only job (and he has kids )
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Rambone on November 17, 2023, 08:52:25 AM
Get-Big = last man standing!

I had that issue! Really enjoyed the mag
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Post by: Giovanni1443 on November 17, 2023, 08:57:55 AM
THE LAST GREAT BODYBUILDING MAG  :'(
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Post by: wes on November 17, 2023, 09:00:59 AM
No joke ….. pretty sure that’s his only job (and he has kids )
Ron also writes horror stories/novels....no clue if he has had anything published though.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: BB on November 17, 2023, 09:07:36 AM
Not surprising, but a little sad. The publishing world is in shambles. He doesn't own Twinlab anymore, and AML https://advancedmolecularlabs.com/collections/all-products, his new thing, isn't setting the world on fire, and he's in his late 60's at least. Probably best to let it go.                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

What is surprising is how fast it fell. 334,000 Youtube subs, barely breaking a few thousand views each video - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9xC5ClCMLOShjp1Ms0dbRw (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9xC5ClCMLOShjp1Ms0dbRw) . Instagram and Facebook numbers are worse. I always was surprised when I'd watched a video by them, like - "Oh yeah, these guys are still around?!".

Did Harris and Palumbo part on good terms? Dave should throw him some work, maybe expos, etc.... since Dave and crew don't enjoy that stuff anymore. Harris hustles, hard worker.

Sell the MD name to someone that will enjoy it.
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Post by: robcguns on November 17, 2023, 10:15:25 AM
Go4it looking lean

Hahaha yes.
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Post by: Royalty on November 17, 2023, 10:25:38 AM
Nobody likes a quitter
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Post by: GymnJuice on November 17, 2023, 10:30:10 AM
https://www.musculardevelopment.com/11355-mdtv/8418-mdtv-billy-guns-vince-goodrum-posedown.html (https://www.musculardevelopment.com/11355-mdtv/8418-mdtv-billy-guns-vince-goodrum-posedown.html)

Some important links are still working for me.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on November 17, 2023, 10:32:08 AM
 :-X
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Post by: Flexacon on November 17, 2023, 10:36:14 AM
No joke ….. pretty sure that’s his only job (and he has kids )

I always liked Ron, although I don't think it was mutual, but he was always pleasant towards me.

Hopefully Ron is in a good spot in life and this doesn't hurt him too much. His kids are adults (finished college I think) and his wife works so he should be pretty chill.

Anyway let's see if Howard the cuck finds his way back here.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: obsidian on November 17, 2023, 11:26:37 AM
Get-Big = last man standing!
Bodybuilding.com is still around, along with their forum.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Gym Rat on November 17, 2023, 11:33:08 AM
Bodybuilding.com is still around, along with their forum.

ProMuscle and Rob DiMaggios IronMag and Anabolic Forums are also still fairly busy...
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Rambone on November 17, 2023, 11:39:33 AM
I heard Steve Blechman thought he was huge and would even flex in public situations like at dinners and ask people to feel his muscles. Is this true?
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Post by: Rmj11 on November 17, 2023, 11:40:40 AM
So where does Ron Harris go from here?

In the gutter.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: BB on November 17, 2023, 11:50:35 AM
Steve Blechman, the man who's "Hey" could inspire humor or horror in the hearts of men -

.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Rambone on November 17, 2023, 11:56:06 AM
Steve Blechman, the man who's "Hey" could inspire humor or horror in the hearts of men -

.

(https://y.yarn.co/43824967-c17e-4a2c-95ff-2da44d1f1499_text.gif)
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: BB on November 17, 2023, 12:01:16 PM
His brother has a similar, yet straighter personality -

https://www.facebook.com/deanblechmanshow/videos/the-dean-blechman-show-with-my-1-fan-the-most-popular-guest-my-90-year-old-mothe/1287224637982498/ .
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Matt on November 17, 2023, 12:11:28 PM
His brother has a similar, yet straighter personality -

https://www.facebook.com/deanblechmanshow/videos/the-dean-blechman-show-with-my-1-fan-the-most-popular-guest-my-90-year-old-mothe/1287224637982498/ .

Looks like Jean Blechman only just passed away three years ago:

https://m.facebook.com/drkeithblechman/photos/a.680182602014607/3113492515350258/

Out of curiosity, why does the forum necessarily have to fold? I can understand the magazine doing so, but I'm not sure why the forum would have to.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Rambone on November 17, 2023, 12:12:18 PM
Looks like Jean Blechman only just passed away three years ago:

https://m.facebook.com/drkeithblechman/photos/a.680182602014607/3113492515350258/

Out of curiosity, why does the forum necessarily have to fold? I can understand the magazine doing so, but I'm not sure why the forum would have to.

Buy it and maintain it, Matty! I’ll follow you anywhere (nh)
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Hulkotron on November 17, 2023, 12:27:42 PM
Getbig and the cockroaches will be the last to go during the nuclear holocaust.
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Post by: pamith on November 17, 2023, 12:28:48 PM
Brutal if true
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: BB on November 17, 2023, 12:33:54 PM

Out of curiosity, why does the forum necessarily have to fold? I can understand the magazine doing so, but I'm not sure why the forum would have to.

Probably just a pain in the ass to deal with. A few months ago it was a sad place, weeks between posts, etc.... I just looked it up, Steve's 70, this might be the signal of a slow retirement. He hasn't did much publicly fitness wise the last couple of years. The little pic is a few years old now -

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kodSyQ1HnCo/maxresdefault.jpg).
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 17, 2023, 01:06:34 PM
Yea other forums are still around …. But the “ Big 3” were Muscle Mayhem/ Muscular Development online and Get-Big……. So my point is … we are the last free bastion of rebel forces to assemble and challenge and question the IFBB and to fight for truth freedom and the American Way!                        * we must rise up and fight the tyrannical nature of Bob Chic and The IFBB until the last Man falls!
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Post by: funk51 on November 17, 2023, 01:15:45 PM
the first issue
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Post by: funk51 on November 17, 2023, 01:22:08 PM
 Muscular Development Magazine Reportedly Ceasing Print Publication

By Greg Patuto -
November 17, 2023
Muscular Development Magazine will reportedly cease publishing moving forward.
Muscular Development Magazine Instagram
Muscular Development Magazine will no longer offer a print edition.
After nearly 60 years, Muscular Development Magazine is reportedly shutting down publication of its print edition.

Rick Collins, who has been apart of the magazine for 22 years as a writer, shared a post on Facebook on Thursday sharing the news.

“IT IS WITH A HEAVY HEART THAT I SAY GOODBYE TO OFFICIAL MUSCULAR DEVELOPMENT MAGAZINE. AFTER 250 MONTHLY COLUMNS SPREAD OUT OVER 22 YEARS, TOUCHING ON ALL THINGS FITNESS, HORMONES, LAW, AND CULTURE, I HAVE BEEN ADVISED THAT THE MAGAZINE IS CLOSING UP SHOP AND WILL PRINT NO FURTHER ISSUES. SO SAD. WHEN I STARTED, PRINT WAS STILL A POWERHOUSE AND SOCIAL MEDIA DIDN’T YET EXIST. IT’S A DIFFERENT WORLD NOW. I WILL DEEPLY MISS WORKING WITH THE MEMBERS OF TEAM MD, AND I WISH THEM WELL IN ALL THEIR FUTURE ENDEAVORS. WHAT’S NEXT FOR ME? I’LL KEEP MY DAY JOB LAWYERING MY BUTT OFF AND MAYBE SEE WHAT ELSE LOOKS INTERESTING!”





Along with print, reports say that the company as a whole will be shutting down but this has not been confirmed to this point. Collins also shared a story written on Twitter with the caption “the end of an era.”
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Post by: Fortress on November 17, 2023, 01:23:03 PM
For us oldschoolers, these magazines going ass-up is very sad.
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Post by: funk51 on November 17, 2023, 01:27:03 PM
some iconic covers, hoffman puts a weider star on mag, arnold's first appearance, first all nude cover, getbig's fav body girl DLB.
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Post by: michael arvilla on November 17, 2023, 02:54:14 PM

]  Three billion human lives ended on August 29th, 2009 The survivors of the message  board wars of the late 1900’s early 2000’s  called the war Judgment Day. They lived only to face a new nightmare: the war against the machines. The computer which controlled the machines, Skynet, sent two Terminators back through time. Their mission: to destroy the leader of the human resistance, Wes , The first Terminator was programmed to strike at me in the year 1984, before Wes  was born. It failed. The second was set to strike at Wes  himself when he was still a child. As before, the resistance was able to send a lone warrior, a protector for Wes It was just a question of which one of them would reach him first…..  Get-Big stands alone as a testament to the many brave souls who foght and died so that we may rip on Monica Brant with no fear of reprisals…. To question Matt’s wall of texts! …. To look  at the 600th  pic of Hankins without any hesitation…,to don the soiled battle thong with reverence and pride … to go forth and conquer!
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: oldschoolfan on November 17, 2023, 03:10:52 PM
correct me if i am wrong didnt steve blechman and his bro inherit twinlab?   
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 17, 2023, 03:13:43 PM
correct me if i am wrong didnt steve blechman and his bro inherit twinlab?
yes
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Post by: Taffin on November 17, 2023, 03:58:04 PM
]  Three billion human lives ended on August 29th, 2009 The survivors of the message  board wars of the late 1900’s early 2000’s  called the war Judgment Day. They lived only to face a new nightmare: the war against the machines. The computer which controlled the machines, Skynet, sent two Terminators back through time. Their mission: to destroy the leader of the human resistance, Wes , The first Terminator was programmed to strike at me in the year 1984, before Wes  was born. It failed. The second was set to strike at Wes  himself when he was still a child. As before, the resistance was able to send a lone warrior, a protector for Wes It was just a question of which one of them would reach him first…..  Get-Big stands alone as a testament to the many brave souls who foght and died so that we may rip on Monica Brant with no fear of reprisals…. To question Matt’s wall of texts! …. To look  at the 600th  pic of Hankins without any hesitation…,to don the soiled battle thong with reverence and pride … to go forth and conquer!

 :D

(http://media.giphy.com/media/l4KhY4yWGATiaopC8/giphy.gif)

 ;D
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: oldschoolfan on November 17, 2023, 04:11:10 PM
yes

Mike I thought so it’s been so long since I bought that magazine I wonder if he went broke or is trying to save what little he has left twinlab at one time was probably in the top three of supp companies in sales
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Rambone on November 17, 2023, 04:13:05 PM
How could the Blechman boys not keep Twinlabs in the green? The industry has been on fire since then.
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Post by: oldschoolfan on November 17, 2023, 04:35:25 PM
How could the Blechman boys not keep Twinlabs in the green? The industry has been on fire since then.

Rambo I believe they sold the supplement company that they inherited and Steve tried to make it big with the magazine and other endeavors  someone else on here may know more it’s been awhile at least 20 years
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Post by: Flexacon on November 17, 2023, 04:37:29 PM
How could the Blechman boys not keep Twinlabs in the green? The industry has been on fire since then.

"Big" Steve left Twinlabs 2 decades ago to take charge of Muscular Development. It was a pet (schome) project for him. He signed the top pros to big money exclusive contracts and was burning through money. Pros, amateurs, writers, videographers, everyone was tryna milk him for his generosity/schome lust.

I think it was his wife that eventually stepped in and put him and MD on a tighter financial budget, as he might have started dipping into his personal wealth. This was about 10 years ago and it's been down hill for them ever since
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Post by: Rambone on November 17, 2023, 04:40:51 PM
According to Wikipedia, he helped run it for 5 years before venturing off to the magazine project. “David Blechman retired in 1996, and passed the title of CEO to his son Ross, while the other sons were installed as corporate officers. He died on July 7, 2000. In 2001 Twinlab sold ARP to Steve Blechman who then resigned from Twinlab.

After slumping sales in 2002,[2][3] the company filed a voluntary petition for Chapter 11 reorganization with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York in September 2003.”

Sounded like they crashed the company
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: BB on November 17, 2023, 04:56:24 PM
How could the Blechman boys not keep Twinlabs in the green? The industry has been on fire since then.

The boys got it during the go-go mid 90's, and launched an IPO that was massively overvalued, while it was overvalued they cashed out and took on a lot of debt, because the stock was booming. Well around 1999, there was an industry wide slow down, and stock dropped like a rock and there was still that debt to pay. They also had a ton of product sitting about, and there were lawsuits from the Ephedra and Andro fallout.

Twinlab could never quite get right, and it was just easier to let it end. I think they sold it in 2002-2003. Steve left in 2001 (probably as a cost cutting measure), and they let him buy the publishing arm of Twinlab. 
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Post by: Rambone on November 17, 2023, 05:01:16 PM
The boys got it during the go-go mid 90's, and launched an IPO that was massively overvalued, while it was overvalued they cashed out and took on a lot of debt, because the stock was booming. Well around 1999, there was an industry wide slow down, and stock dropped like a rock and there was still that debt to pay. They also had a ton of product sitting about, and there were lawsuits from the Ephedra and Andro fallout.

Twinlab could never quite get right, and it was just easier to let it end. I think they sold it in 2002-2003. Steve left in 2001 (probably as a cost cutting measure), and they let him buy the publishing arm of Twinlab.

Now that….that’s an answer!

Thank you!
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Post by: michael arvilla on November 17, 2023, 05:25:37 PM
This stuff was the bomb!
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 17, 2023, 06:34:53 PM
…::.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Schadenfreude on November 17, 2023, 06:39:01 PM
…::.

Posterchild for "on steroids and still looks like shit"
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: youandme on November 17, 2023, 06:39:59 PM
This stuff was the bomb!

Yeah it was! So was Ripped Fuel. Lots of good supplements back then.

Sucks to see MD go but times changed. Look at all the social media bullshit.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Ron on November 17, 2023, 07:07:46 PM
So is this was the last issue...


I am writing with the sad news that Muscular Development has stopped publication. The official announcement was made in a letter to our advertisers from our publisher. The print magazine is no more and the website, while still live at this time, is not going to be posting any new content.  The last issue of MD that was published was the November 2023 issue.

Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 17, 2023, 07:37:51 PM
So is was the last issue


Yes Ron …..
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: beakdoctor on November 17, 2023, 07:44:52 PM
So is this the last issue, or the December issue?

I have it.

Traveling as often as I do it's something of a tradition to pick up an issue at the airport news stand. IDK kind of reminded me of when I was a teenager waiting for my flex or M&F subscription to arrive in the mail.

But of course it had to end ffs. Some of the articles in the last issues were the same crap that's been published in every muscle mag for the past 4 decades: how much protein? Top 10 supplements necessary for muscle growth, sleep for gains etc...

It is a shame though. Online only coverage of the shows doesn't quite memorialize them the same way. I could probably recite the top 10 finishers at every Olympia from 80 to 00. Hell I have no idea who took 2nd in any of the shows for the past 8 years or more.

Real journalism is dead and it's unlikely that bodybuilding will ever have truly good stories written about contests ever again.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: BB on November 17, 2023, 07:55:44 PM
Plumz and Romo on Muscular Development closing -

.

They pat each other on the back pretty hard in this (they invented podcasting, BB youtube, BB facebook, BB Tik-tok, etc....), but it's an ok listen. The 2nd half better than the first.

Most interesting thing they mention, is they feel Steve burnt through a bunch of money keeping MD afloat the last decade. Also, they wonder if anyone will be left holding the bag, they mention Blechman owing Ron Harris $100,000+ at one point for work, expenses, etc..... They say Steve likes to slide his bills as much as he can. Romano also semi-jokes that Blechman grew to distrust him and Palumbo because they are Italian, and he's a Jew. He trusted certain Jews in the company more than outsiders.

Also - minor mistakes - Twinlab bought MD in 1986, not 91. Also Ironman has the record for longest running print mag (1938- just a few years ago).
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: MCWAY on November 17, 2023, 09:00:09 PM
I was just commenting to my wife about how tiny the magazine is, compared to an issue I had back in 2008. It is literally FOUR TIMES as thick as the current MDs are.

I joked about the identity crisis years: From Muscular Development to Muscular Development-Fitness-Health, to All-Natural Muscular Development. Then in 2001, Blechman sold his share of TwinLab to his father and brothers, bought the magazine, sang the praises of steroids every chance he could (after swearing no steroid-using bodybuilder would ever be in his magazine again in 1997). Then, he went over a year without a single bodybuilder on the cover, replaced with silicon-stuffed skinny sirens.

And who can forget the cartoons, from Maxx Repp in the 90s, to the sex toons (in the Sexual Performance section) from the early 2000s.

Well, I won't be needing anymore milk crates to store my periodicals in my garage.

Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: The Keto Kid on November 17, 2023, 09:00:39 PM
Is it just the magazine? Or everything online?
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Post by: Matt on November 17, 2023, 09:08:08 PM
Is it just the magazine? Or everything online?

Yes, good sir.

Everything.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: TRIX on November 17, 2023, 11:15:28 PM
Instagram murdered bodybuilding magazines, Instagram comment section is horrible though
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: TRIX on November 17, 2023, 11:19:23 PM
As a teen, musclemag international with a muscular dude and a chick was less awkward than a MD COVER with a single male bodybuilder, when buying, apart from all the bs training programs and a million ads, they did have pictures you won't find on the internet, great for toilet browsing :D
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Kwon on November 17, 2023, 11:28:07 PM
They failed to hop on the digital train years ago.

Why couldn't Soros, Schwab, Rothschild sponsor MD just like they do with all the Woke content from Netfux, Amazon, Disney etc?
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Flexacon on November 17, 2023, 11:43:03 PM
They deserved to die after this cover

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/57/10/4257106f2e952fec72d637d454158e2c.jpg)
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 18, 2023, 12:16:59 AM
Getbig and the cockroaches will be the last to go during the nuclear holocaust.
During a nuclear war the internet will be down but Getbiggers will send their posts by passenger pigeons. After the pigeons die we will send messages in a bottle.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: _bruce_ on November 18, 2023, 01:23:07 AM
They deserved to die after this cover

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/57/10/4257106f2e952fec72d637d454158e2c.jpg)


So they shopped their pics like youtube thumbnails.... pretty sad.
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Post by: Matt on November 18, 2023, 01:56:40 AM
For us oldschoolers, these magazines going ass-up is very sad.

I agree completely. I heard that from 35-50, not much happens. Then at 50+, we start seeing people we know die. I have had very few deaths in my life. Including three of my grandparents, I've been to under 10 funerals so far. I'm pretty lucky. But my parents had me pretty young.

But it's not just the deaths of people which we need to experience, but the deaths of magazines like MD, or even institutions. I would argue that Western civilization is dying. The White race is dying. Starting at about age 25, we are all in an accelerating rate of dying. You could argue this happens the day we are born.

But I guess life wouldn't have meaning if it wasn't finite. Nothing would. I'm thinking if I were immortal, I'd probably [we all probably would] want to die.

It's still sad though. I thought MD would be able to remain as the last bodybuilding magazine around, given that there is still a bit of a market for magazines, and with only MD around - I thought it would stick around forever.

But no.

So its sad for me to see.

Great post, Fortress.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Gym Rat on November 18, 2023, 02:11:44 AM

You could argue this happens the day we are born.


Iron Maiden:

"There's a time to live, but isn't it strange, that as soon as you're born, you're dying"...
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Gym Rat on November 18, 2023, 02:13:14 AM
I agree completely. I heard that from 35-50, not much happens. Then at 50+, we start seeing people we know die. I have had very few deaths in my life. Including three of my grandparents, I've been to under 10 funerals so far. I'm pretty lucky. But my parents had me pretty young.

But it's not just the deaths of people which we need to experience, but the deaths of magazines like MD, or even institutions. I would argue that Western civilization is dying. The White race is dying. Starting at about age 25, we are all in an accelerating rate of dying. You could argue this happens the day we are born.

But I guess life wouldn't have meaning if it wasn't finite. Nothing would. I'm thinking if I were immortal, I'd probably [we all probably would] want to die.

It's still sad though. I thought MD would be able to remain as the last bodybuilding magazine around, given that there is still a bit of a market for magazines, and with only MD around - I thought it would stick around forever.

But no.

So its sad for me to see.

Great post, Fortress.

The world changes so much for all, say for like an 80 year old man.
By the time he's 80, its like "get me the fuckk out of this embarrassing shit show"...
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Matt on November 18, 2023, 02:13:44 AM
Plumz and Romo on Muscular Development closing -

.

I'm watching that on my TV as we speak. I was just about to post it. Thanks BB.

They pat each other on the back pretty hard in this (they invented podcasting, BB youtube, BB facebook, BB Tik-tok, etc....), but it's an ok listen. The 2nd half better than the first.

Most interesting thing they mention, is they feel Steve burnt through a bunch of money keeping MD afloat the last decade. Also, they wonder if anyone will be left holding the bag, they mention Blechman owing Ron Harris $100,000+ at one point for work, expenses, etc..... They say Steve likes to slide his bills as much as he can. Romano also semi-jokes that Blechman grew to distrust him and Palumbo because they are Italian, and he's a Jew.

Dave's a Jew...isn't it? Dave's father was Italian, but Dave's mother is Jewish, making Dave Jewish. To be Jewish is a matrilineal trait. Regardless, I should ask the question again:

Dave's a Jew...isn't he?

He trusted certain Jews in the company more than outsiders.

Although people mention high Jewish IQ, it's an insufficient explanation for Jewish overrepresentation in certain areas. Small differences in the mean/average produce major differences at the tail end of normal distribution: so for IQ = 170+, there are an equal number of Jewish geniuses as there are White geniuses.

But for IQ = 140 [closer to the start of the genius range], there are more White geniuses than Jewish geniuses.

So why are Jews overrepresented in media, and other areas. IMO:

[1] Heavy evolutionary pressure to control information. And Jews specifically have high verbal IQ scores. I think that particular aspect of IQ helps a lot.
[2] Jewish in-group altruism / ethnic nepotism. This is huge. I think this is the biggest factors. Jews prop up and promote other Jews all the time.

I think this starts at the level of the central banks, which we are basically all beholden to. There have still been some pretty epic White billionaires successfully running private companies [Fred DeLuca of Subway, or more recognizably, Vince McMahon of the WWE], but central banks have tremendous influence, and I think Jews propping up and promoting fellow Jews starts at that level, and rolls downhill from there.

IMO, Jewish in-group altruism is why they will maintain group-level control of the media. It's not that "Jews own the media", but Jews as a people have the equivalent of a sort of veto power over what gets published or not. Although I sometimes wonder why the mainstream media is pretty consistently anti-Israel. Check out Rupert Murdoch's tweet about it from a decade ago.  ;D

Also - minor mistakes - Twinlab bought MD in 1986, not 91. Also Ironman has the record for longest running print mag (1938- just a few years ago).

I didn't realize Twinlab bought MD. So it wasn't in the Blechman family from the start.

I wonder how much money Blechman burnt keeping MD alive? And I'm curious why it didn't work out like RXMuscle did. As you said, Ron Harris HUSTLES.

Did MD pay him back the $100,000 they owe him?

Dave IS gloating over the death of MD though, as the comment below shows:
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Gym Rat on November 18, 2023, 02:19:13 AM

I didn't realize Twinlab bought MD. So it wasn't in the Blechman family from the start.


Bob Hoffman (York) owned and started MD Magazine...
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Matt on November 18, 2023, 02:25:42 AM
Buy it and maintain it, Matty! I’ll follow you anywhere (nh)

Lol...I don't understand why it wasn't able to make money. Although they started late to the online/digital side of things [2006], I feel like they were established enough to be successful. Maybe Dave just has a better ability to acquire and maintain sponsors. I also don't understand why the MD YouTube account had so few views.

I also heard that Dave and John got fired for taking the piss on the expenses account. Although the RXMuscle video above failed to mention that point.  ;D

BB said it starts getting good during the second half. I'm at 58 minutes of 1:21:49 right now. When does it start getting good?  ???

Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: a_pupil on November 18, 2023, 02:39:11 AM
Getbig is still numero uno

Ronaldo should buy the domain and redirect it to getbig.

Where Bob "it's only gay if you want it to be" Chicherillo gonna post now? First the ice machine is removed from the Mirage, now MD folds.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Matt on November 18, 2023, 02:40:33 AM
Bob Hoffman (York) owned and started MD Magazine...

Ah! Thanks for that information, Gym Rat.

Ron Harris hired me as a writer for MD in 2017, but I made the mistake of posting it online/on Facebook.

Vince Goodrum then contacted Ron and told him that I was a racist Neo-Nazi who hates Blacks and Jews or whatever, and Ron told me if that information leaked, Dave Palumbo would use it to target MD and attempt to bring the magazine down.

The MD/RX feud was pretty intense. RXMuscle was targeted with mal-ware that then targeted the computers/devices of forum members, and Dave spent $12,000 trying to stop it. That's when it was determined that the malware attacks were intentional, and it was suspected by many people that someone at MD was responsible for those attacks.

So I get why Ron Harris didn't want to hire me. Since then, I decided to just not mention to anyone if I'm doing something [taking on a job or project just for something to do - even if it's volunteering at the soup kitchen last year]. But...why would I? I have enough cash to live comfortably for the rest of my life. Why would I go through another experience like that one [at MD] or at Lakehead University, etc.

The idea of answering to anyone because I have to pisses me off. No thanks...I'll  just train and chill out with friends and family, and live off my savings.

That all being said, did Ron Harris ever get paid the $100,000 owed to him by Steve Blechman?

Say whatever you want about Ron Harris [he's a Jew...isn't? Wikipedia states under his Early Life section that he was born Ron Harristein], he had/has a great physique:
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: a_pupil on November 18, 2023, 02:45:54 AM
Ah! Thanks for that information, Gym Rat.

Ron Harris hired me as a writer for MD in 2017, but I made the mistake of posting it online/on Facebook.

Vince Goodrum then contacted Ron and told him that I was a racist Neo-Nazi who hates Blacks and Jews or whatever, and Ron told me if that information leaked, Dave Palumbo would use it to target MD and attempt to bring the magazine down.

The MD/RX feud was pretty intense. RXMuscle was targeted with mal-ware that then targeted the computers/devices of forum members, and Dave spent $12,000 trying to stop it. That's when it was determined that the malware attacks were intentional, and it was suspected by many people that someone at MD was responsible for those attacks.

So I get why Ron Harris didn't want to hire me. Since then, I decided to just not mention to anyone if I'm doing something [taking on a job or project just for something to do - even if it's volunteering at the soup kitchen last year]. But...why would I? I have enough cash to live comfortably for the rest of my life. Why would I go through another experience like that one [at MD] or at Lakehead University, etc.

The idea of answering to anyone because I have to pisses me off. No thanks...I'll  just train and chill out with friends and family, and live off my savings.

That all being said, did Ron Harris ever get paid the $100,000 owed to him by Steve Blechman?

Say whatever you want about Ron Harris [he's a Jew...isn't? Wikipedia states under his Early Life section that he was born Ron Harristein], he had/has a great physique:

Very disappointed in Vincenzo
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Gym Rat on November 18, 2023, 02:48:34 AM
Ah! Thanks for that information, Gym Rat.

Ron Harris hired me as a writer for MD in 2017, but I made the mistake of posting it online/on Facebook.

Vince Goodrum then contacted Ron and told him that I was a racist Neo-Nazi who hates Blacks and Jews or whatever, and Ron told me if that information leaked, Dave Palumbo would use it to target MD and attempt to bring the magazine down.

The MD/RX feud was pretty intense. RXMuscle was targeted with mal-ware that then targeted the computers/devices of forum members, and Dave spent $12,000 trying to stop it. That's when it was determined that the malware attacks were intentional, and it was suspected by many people that someone at MD was responsible for those attacks.

So I get why Ron Harris didn't want to hire me. Since then, I decided to just not mention to anyone if I'm doing something [taking on a job or project just for something to do - even if it's volunteering at the soup kitchen last year]. But...why would I? I have enough cash to live comfortably for the rest of my life. Why would I go through another experience like that one [at MD] or at Lakehead University, etc.

The idea of answering to anyone because I have to pisses me off. No thanks...I'll  just train and chill out with friends and family, and live off my savings.

That all being said, did Ron Harris ever get paid the $100,000 owed to him by Steve Blechman?

Say whatever you want about Ron Harris [he's a Jew...isn't? Wikipedia states under his Early Life section that he was born Ron Harristein], he had/has a great physique:

So Vince is a crybaby, teller???   ???
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Flexacon on November 18, 2023, 03:25:07 AM


Ron Harris hired me as a writer for MD in 2017, but I made the mistake of posting it online/on Facebook.

Vince Goodrum then contacted Ron and told him that I was a racist Neo-Nazi who hates Blacks and Jews or whatever, and Ron told me if that information leaked, Dave Palumbo would use it to target MD and attempt to bring the magazine down.


Vince wanted that job. He was just hustling, so maybe don't take it personally.

Ron turned him down anyway and then Vince had a box cutter/acid in your face meltdown

Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: affeman on November 18, 2023, 03:55:28 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=689442.0;attach=1474546;image)

In fact it shows how much it hurt his ego that he got fired from MD so that he can't even hide his massive glee like 15 yrs later :D
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: BB on November 18, 2023, 08:22:30 AM

BB said it starts getting good during the second half. I'm at 58 minutes of 1:21:49 right now. When does it start getting good?  ???


Upon reflection, "good" might've been the wrong choice of words. Less bland and more informative, might've been better. And yes, Dave's half Jewish, I think on his mother's side, which would make him fully Jewish under their laws if he wanted it. It just struck me funny that it seemed to hurt Romano, even though he joked about it.

And to be truthful, I do think Blechman was right not to trust them fully. Dave and him were getting pretty powerful in Blechman's org, and both Romano and Dave have some scamming in their backgrounds (Romano had some "boiler room" type thing he got in trouble for, Dave had the fake GH). 

Also it's funny that Dave mentions Howard Stern being an influence, and how Blechman got mad at him for pumping Species on the boards and in the mag. Stern and CBS/Infinity had a similar thing when Stern was moving over to satellite and would pump it on regular radio, they finally had to edit him on the stations.

MD just got old and bland, it will happen to Dave's thing too, it happens to all media.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 18, 2023, 08:46:05 AM
Very disappointed in Vincenzo


That came up in a conversation with Ron when we were discussing things in which he told me that he was THINKING to let Matt write ONE article and i told him that he was going to ruin the magazine's reputation with his neo-nazi shit and i sent him some of Matt's writings.

Matt, you can say what you want but if you go around and spread that white supremacist shit, you should get called out for it so fuck you
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: Gym Rat on November 18, 2023, 08:46:34 AM
Upon reflection, "good" might've been the wrong choice of words. Less bland and more informative, might've been better. And yes, Dave's half Jewish, I think on his mother's side, which would make him fully Jewish under their laws if he wanted it. It just struck me funny that it seemed to hurt Romano, even though he joked about it.

And to be truthful, I do think Blechman was right not to trust them fully. Dave and him were getting pretty powerful in Blechman's org, and both Romano and Dave have some scamming in their backgrounds (Romano had some "boiler room" type thing he got in trouble for, Dave had the fake GH). 

Also it's funny that Dave mentions Howard Stern and how Blechman got mad at him for pumping Species on the boards and in the mag. Stern and CBS/Infinity had a similar thing when Stern was moving over to satellite and would pump it on regular radio, they finally had to edit him on the stations.

MD just got old and bland, it will happen to Dave's thing too, it happens to all media.

Not the first I heard of Blechman not paying someone. Didn't he owe Lee Priest 100K for the contract he signed with MD? (And never paid him).
Some sort of large number, not really sure if actually 100K.

Was watching this AM on the treadmill but only got to the 30 minute mark. Ill finish it up later, maybe listen in the car... Hopefully Blechmans wife squirrelled away some money for them and he didnt blow it all, seems reckless with $$$$$.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Ron on November 18, 2023, 09:12:45 AM

Pretty sure Muscular Development was an LLC, and it has not been making money.  Advertisers want to do their own thing, their own social media.  Amazon is taking a bigger chunk of selling products and does require a lot of funding to maintain (buy box, violations, pricing, advertising).    Websites do cost money to run, more traffic, more costs, more maintenance, and people want more money to help out.  Print magazine costs are very high now, as well as delivering a print magazine.  Stores want guarantees that if the magazine does not sell, you refund it, so the less buy rates, you lose a ton of money.  At some point, you are getting older, it isnt as worth it as in the past, and priorities change.

No one wanted to buy it out, most likely, hence instead of losing money every month, time to do other things.   

I wish Steve and his team well, thanks for some great issues over the years. 

Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Gym Rat on November 18, 2023, 09:16:59 AM


No one wanted to buy it out, most likely, hence instead of losing money every month, time to do other things.   

I wish Steve and his team well, thanks for some great issues over the years.

Jumbo mentioned that Pecker wanted to buy it (maybe before going to M&F) and Blechman turned him down.
Hindsight...

Blechman might just want to retire now... Im sure he has good personal wealth...
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Matt on November 18, 2023, 09:56:22 AM
Very disappointed in Vincenzo

I was too.

After that I learned not to share any information about anything I'm doing until after it's done. So say if I wanted to work somewhere to pass time, I could do it now, and share it later.

Vince read one of my posts about joining MD [on here or on Facebook], and explained to Ron Harristein [he's Jewish, and he's owed $100,000 by MD] that I was an evil racist Nazi who wanted to kill six Brazillian Jews.

And that's why I didn't get the position.

Had I just said nothing about it, I could have written for them for years without anyone knowing I was doing it, and informing Ron that I'm a racist Nazi.

PS - have you watched the movie Apt Pupil?
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Dave D on November 18, 2023, 11:57:32 AM
Pretty sure Muscular Development was an LLC, and it has not been making money.  Advertisers want to do their own thing, their own social media.  Amazon is taking a bigger chunk of selling products and does require a lot of funding to maintain (buy box, violations, pricing, advertising).    Websites do cost money to run, more traffic, more costs, more maintenance, and people want more money to help out.  Print magazine costs are very high now, as well as delivering a print magazine.  Stores want guarantees that if the magazine does not sell, you refund it, so the less buy rates, you lose a ton of money.  At some point, you are getting older, it isnt as worth it as in the past, and priorities change.

No one wanted to buy it out, most likely, hence instead of losing money every month, time to do other things.   

I wish Steve and his team well, thanks for some great issues over the years.

Ron unless you know something I don’t; print media (newspaper/magazines) typically sit on a stor’s shelf and they aren’t paid for until they actually go through the register. there is an accounting process that takes place, but generally stores don’t pay until the inventory is “accounted” for and there is a monthly payment.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Dave D on November 18, 2023, 11:59:35 AM
I was too.

After that I learned not to share any information about anything I'm doing until after it's done. So say if I wanted to work somewhere to pass time, I could do it now, and share it later.

Vince read one of my posts about joining MD [on here or on Facebook], and explained to Ron Harristein [he's Jewish, and he's owed $100,000 by MD] that I was an evil racist Nazi who wanted to kill six Brazillian Jews.

And that's why I didn't get the position.

Had I just said nothing about it, I could have written for them for years without anyone knowing I was doing it, and informing Ron that I'm a racist Nazi.

PS - have you watched the movie Apt Pupil?

Yes it’s very realistic to assume you would have worked there for years based on how easily you conform to social standards.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: a_pupil on November 18, 2023, 12:22:02 PM
I was too.

After that I learned not to share any information about anything I'm doing until after it's done. So say if I wanted to work somewhere to pass time, I could do it now, and share it later.

Vince read one of my posts about joining MD [on here or on Facebook], and explained to Ron Harristein [he's Jewish, and he's owed $100,000 by MD] that I was an evil racist Nazi who wanted to kill six Brazillian Jews.

And that's why I didn't get the position.

Had I just said nothing about it, I could have written for them for years without anyone knowing I was doing it, and informing Ron that I'm a racist Nazi.

PS - have you watched the movie Apt Pupil?

No, I was a gh15 fanboy in the accounts early days.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: GymnJuice on November 18, 2023, 04:08:25 PM
I was too.

After that I learned not to share any information about anything I'm doing until after it's done. So say if I wanted to work somewhere to pass time, I could do it now, and share it later.

Vince read one of my posts about joining MD [on here or on Facebook], and explained to Ron Harristein [he's Jewish, and he's owed $100,000 by MD] that I was an evil racist Nazi who wanted to kill six Brazillian Jews.

And that's why I didn't get the position.

Had I just said nothing about it, I could have written for them for years without anyone knowing I was doing it, and informing Ron that I'm a racist Nazi.

PS - have you watched the movie Apt Pupil?

Matt are the Brazilian Jews one of the lost tribes?
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 18, 2023, 05:37:50 PM
Ron (Harris). No matter what you think of him / his physique has a ton of great stories and experiences (I hope he chooses to post here) I hope Howard (lame fart jokes / lame same  old stories) chooses not to … ….
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: a_pupil on November 18, 2023, 06:15:53 PM
Was that housewife fitadina (or something) still there at the end?

I remember she started snaking around to get power in the organisation.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: BB on November 18, 2023, 06:27:49 PM
Was that housewife fitadina (or something) still there at the end?

I remember she started snaking around to get power in the organisation.

Gone, left a few years ago, lasted maybe 5 or so years longer than John and Palumbo.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: BB on November 18, 2023, 06:34:39 PM
Ron had a secretish account here, I think it was Pazuzu or Purge WTF. I remember he outed himself when there was a relatively positive thread on short horror stories.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Flexacon on November 18, 2023, 06:47:02 PM
Here are Rons horror stories if anyone is interested

https://www.amazon.com/EvilX10-10-Tales-Extreme-Darkness-ebook/dp/B01AOF8V5G?dchild=1

Book Description:
"EvilX10
10 Tales of Extreme Darkness"
By Ronald Harris

When was the last time you were truly scared? When was the last time an image or thought was so disturbing, you just couldn't get it out of your head? EvilX10 takes you to dark places of the mind and spirit that you never want to visit. Tight Space is the ultimate claustrophobic hell that will haunt your dreams. BBC takes hardcore porn to its final, sickening conclusion. In Zippy the Antichrist, a tortured boy embarks on a mission of terrible vengeance. Baby Killer and In This House I Dwell both turn the traditional zombie genre on its head with unexpected twists. Rave follows a young man's descent into a world of unbridled pleasure that becomes a nightmare which he may never escape. In Oppression, the vile realm of the demonic invades our own for one unlucky man. These and more unsettling stories will get under your skin and keep you up late at night when darkness blankets the world, and evil moves among us all.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 18, 2023, 07:41:45 PM
Ok .. I don’t give a shit about “ horror stories “ Ron has been around forever/ interviewed pretty much everyone ….. use to go to the “ Titus after parties”let’s hear some fucking stories!!!… did he finger bang Monica while his wife was rollin? …did he mistakenly take a blow job from one of Antoine’s she males?!??   …,did he get with that Sasha dude?!?! …. Or did Debbie Kruck rock his world????  He’s got to have some crazy stories!   
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 18, 2023, 07:55:11 PM
Does Ron think he can take Joey Staxx in a street fight? … did Shaun Clarida really use a 10 cc needle and syringe and shoot whole bottles at a time?! Did Blechman ever hit on him?/ how much money does he owe you?!???… was Trish Stratus a raging whore?  …. Could Hankins have turned pro in the 1990’s?!?
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 18, 2023, 08:02:39 PM
Rate Metallica’s albums from best to worst….. what’s the most GH you have done? …… if Bob Chic and Dave Palumbo were both drowning and you could only save one …..which one?
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits!
Post by: MCWAY on November 18, 2023, 08:18:48 PM
They failed to hop on the digital train years ago.

MuscleMag International hopped on the train in the early 2000s (perhaps even as early as 1999, Emusclemag.com). But, it went away fairly early (relative to its competitors in 2012....with a brief attempt at a comeback by Kennedy's wife in 2013).

Plus, sometimes we forget how the internet wasn't quite as developed 20 years ago as it is now. So, you still got more content from the magazines than you did online.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Bevo on November 18, 2023, 09:29:41 PM
Fuck no, I hope that lame ass Howard doesn’t return here, he’s better off gone
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Wiggs on November 18, 2023, 10:09:55 PM
I'm glad lived through the magazine era of bodybuilding. Pre-internet. It was a great time.  Thanks for the memories Muscular Development. I even had a letter posted in the magazine back in the day.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Ron on November 18, 2023, 11:16:07 PM


Some of the magazine covers from Muscular Development - still have quite a few collection of them somewhere.

https://www.getbig.com/magazine/musdev/musdev.htm

Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 19, 2023, 12:36:11 AM
I'm glad lived through the magazine era of bodybuilding. Pre-internet. It was a great time.  Thanks for the memories Muscular Development. I even had a letter posted in the magazine back in the day.

I agree. The 80's and 90's were the best era of bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: bigmikecox on November 19, 2023, 02:25:36 AM
Get-Big = last man standing!

Sad day bro.  They took good care of me and I will be forever grateful
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: bigmikecox on November 19, 2023, 02:26:13 AM
Plumz and Romo on Muscular Development closing -

.

They pat each other on the back pretty hard in this (they invented podcasting, BB youtube, BB facebook, BB Tik-tok, etc....), but it's an ok listen. The 2nd half better than the first.

Most interesting thing they mention, is they feel Steve burnt through a bunch of money keeping MD afloat the last decade. Also, they wonder if anyone will be left holding the bag, they mention Blechman owing Ron Harris $100,000+ at one point for work, expenses, etc..... They say Steve likes to slide his bills as much as he can. Romano also semi-jokes that Blechman grew to distrust him and Palumbo because they are Italian, and he's a Jew. He trusted certain Jews in the company more than outsiders.

Also - minor mistakes - Twinlab bought MD in 1986, not 91. Also Ironman has the record for longest running print mag (1938- just a few years ago).

Ron is ok
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Gym Rat on November 19, 2023, 02:34:11 AM

Matt, you can say what you want but if you go around and spread that white supremacist shit, you should get called out for it so fuck you.


Is it OK for the black-power stuff that goes on as well??  Curious...
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 19, 2023, 03:00:34 AM
I read somewhere, can't remember by who, that Twinlab basically lost the value of the company when ephedra was banned. Products containing ephedra were like 80% of the sales or something like that. Twinlab campaigned like crazy through MD mag to keep it legal.
I wouldn't doubt that. What do guys say when they hear the name Twinlab? Ephedrine! Ripped Fuel!
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: oldschoolfan on November 19, 2023, 04:20:06 AM
I read somewhere, can't remember by who, that Twinlab basically lost the value of the company when ephedra was banned. Products containing ephedra were like 80% of the sales or something like that. Twinlab campaigned like crazy through MD mag to keep it legal.
I wouldn't doubt that. What do guys say when they hear the name Twinlab? Ephedrine! Ripped Fuel!

That probably is true ripped fuel was there biggest product that shit was awesome
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Wiggs on November 19, 2023, 04:40:58 AM
Sad day bro.  They took good care of me and I will be forever grateful

Mike, I hope they took care of Ron as in every cent owed. He put in some serious work.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: bigmikecox on November 19, 2023, 04:42:07 AM
Ok .. I don’t give a shit about “ horror stories “ Ron has been around forever/ interviewed pretty much everyone ….. use to go to the “ Titus after parties”let’s hear some fucking stories!!!… did he finger bang Monica while his wife was rollin? …did he mistakenly take a blow job from one of Antoine’s she males?!??   …,did he get with that Sasha dude?!?! …. Or did Debbie Kruck rock his world????  He’s got to have some crazy stories!

Ron is a class act.

I wish Blechman could have kept the forums up for a bit.

Yes he does. Heard a few of them. I keep telling him to write a book
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: bigmikecox on November 19, 2023, 04:46:09 AM
Mike, I hope they took care of Ron as in every cent owed. He put in some serious work.

The amount of work he did at shows blew my mind.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: wes on November 19, 2023, 04:56:06 AM
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/xvgAAOSwgxdik5u1/s-l960.jpg)

Got my name published in the above magazine.........1974 Boston Open Power Meet.

I weighed a whopping 126 pounds,and competed in the 132 pound class......I was huge even back then!   :D

Birdlike Genetics of Peace
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Rambone on November 19, 2023, 05:24:00 AM
What are my old copies of MD worth now? Condition: several pages stuck together in each issue
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: wes on November 19, 2023, 05:50:51 AM
What are my old copies of MD worth now? Condition: several pages stuck together in each issue
Probably just a tad less than my soiled posing trunks depending on the buyer.   :D
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 19, 2023, 06:03:56 AM
I have it.

Traveling as often as I do it's something of a tradition to pick up an issue at the airport news stand. IDK kind of reminded me of when I was a teenager waiting for my flex or M&F subscription to arrive in the mail.


Ha, same .. every time I fly I’d spend the $5-10 to pick up an MD and flip through it.  The advertisements were the best content honestly.

A bit sad to see but truthfully it’s been a long time coming
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 19, 2023, 06:54:55 AM
Sad day bro.  They took good care of me and I will be forever grateful
I know!  ( they filmed me twice even put me in the mag once ….. a tiny pic and footnote) I’m grateful for that! The only other form I have been going to has been MD No Bull…… they had  the best contest coverage and I enjoyed watching “ Ronline “…..sucks but life is like that …. It moves on ……. All we can do is appreciate and make Get- Big Even bigger! 
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 19, 2023, 06:57:07 AM
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 19, 2023, 07:00:57 AM
I was too.

After that I learned not to share any information about anything I'm doing until after it's done. So say if I wanted to work somewhere to pass time, I could do it now, and share it later.

Vince read one of my posts about joining MD [on here or on Facebook], and explained to Ron Harristein [he's Jewish, and he's owed $100,000 by MD] that I was an evil racist Nazi who wanted to kill six Brazillian Jews.

And that's why I didn't get the position.

Had I just said nothing about it, I could have written for them for years without anyone knowing I was doing it, and informing Ron that I'm a racist Nazi.

PS - have you watched the movie Apt Pupil?


Oh shut the fuck up Matt.  If i had not called you out then someone else would have.  What really pisses me off is that you speak so much about whites being superior and yet you kept that undercover with Ron.

If you have a problem with it, i'll prob be in Canada next year for you to do something about it.  But get this through your head you simp, I am bigger, stronger, and most importantly SMARTER than you.  Your boasting about white supremacy is meaningless to a mandingo warrior like myself. 

Now stop crying about something you were never entitled to get and fetch me a drink in the kitchen
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! No more Magazine!
Post by: Schadenfreude on November 19, 2023, 08:10:45 AM

Oh shut the fuck up Matt.

This should be the default response to any of Matt's posts by anyone, anytime, if I may speak frankly.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 19, 2023, 08:25:17 AM
We're happy to welcome any former members from the Muscular Development forums here.

They can easily register and/or reach out to us and maybe we can help them retrieve their old usernames in order to give them a sense of continuity.

At the end, we are a community of bodybuilders and enthusiasts who enjoy what this industry has brought to us by way of entertainment and lifestyle. No reason why those former MD forum members can't find a new place to shoot the shit.

Respectfully, GetBig is happy to serve as that bar where anyone can stop by at any time and enjoy themselves.

"1"
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Dave D on November 19, 2023, 08:27:22 AM


Mike good video. I didn’t realize you didnt start training until you were 28! I was not expecting such a heavy accent. You sound like what I thought big Rob would sound like
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 19, 2023, 08:46:46 AM
We're happy to welcome any former members from the Muscular Development forums here.

They can easily register and/or reach out to us and maybe we can help them retrieve their old usernames in order to give them a sense of continuity.

At the end, we are a community of bodybuilders and enthusiasts who enjoy what this industry has brought to us by way of entertainment and lifestyle. No reason why those former MD forum members can't find a new place to shoot the shit.

Respectfully, GetBig is happy to serve as that bar where anyone can stop by at any time and enjoy themselves.

"1"


Honestly, the posters at MD who might want to come over here can go fuck themselves.   I've seen their posting and they are nothing but a bunch of whiny little bastards and people who got their feelings hurt over here at Getbig in the past and ran to the bossum of Steve Blechman's forum.   

They come over here and start something, I'm going to burn their house down right in front of them.  King Kong ain't got shit on me


Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: JackTheRipper on November 19, 2023, 08:56:43 AM

Honestly, the posters at MD who might want to come over here can go fuck themselves.   I've seen their posting and they are nothing but a bunch of whiny little bastards and people who got their feelings hurt over here at Getbig in the past and ran to the bossum of Steve Blechman's forum.   

They come over here and start something, I'm going to burn their house down right in front of them.  King Kong ain't got shit on me
you got banned because you were a bitch  :D
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 19, 2023, 09:06:44 AM
you got banned because you were a bitch  :D


Lol...  Ron banned me because of the Youtube videos I was making about MD criticizing their cheap setups for their videos and etc.   It was meaningless because it had been at least a year or two since I had last posted over their anyway.  They even banned 2 other people because they thought it was me using a gimmick account.   That's how fucked up the forums were over there.  Me and Ron are cool now but learn the facts before opening your mouth
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: JackTheRipper on November 19, 2023, 09:18:17 AM

Lol...  Ron banned me because of the Youtube videos I was making about MD criticizing their cheap setups for their videos and etc.   It was meaningless because it had been at least a year or two since I had last posted over their anyway.  They even banned 2 other people because they thought it was me using a gimmick account.   That's how fucked up the forums were over there.  Me and Ron are cool now but learn the facts before opening your mouth
sorry to burst your bubble cotton boy but you caused trouble & were correctly banned.. :D
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: wes on November 19, 2023, 09:29:59 AM
I know!  ( they filmed me twice even put me in the mag once ….. a tiny pic and footnote) I’m grateful for that! The only other form I have been going to has been MD No Bull…… they had  the best contest coverage and I enjoyed watching “ Ronline “…..sucks but life is like that …. It moves on ……. All we can do is appreciate and make Get- Big Even bigger! 



Good stuff Mike....props buddy!  ;)
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Bevo on November 19, 2023, 09:30:02 AM
We're happy to welcome any former members from the Muscular Development forums here.

They can easily register and/or reach out to us and maybe we can help them retrieve their old usernames in order to give them a sense of continuity.

At the end, we are a community of bodybuilders and enthusiasts who enjoy what this industry has brought to us by way of entertainment and lifestyle. No reason why those former MD forum members can't find a new place to shoot the shit.

Respectfully, GetBig is happy to serve as that bar where anyone can stop by at any time and enjoy themselves.

"1"

Anyone but Howard
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: BB on November 19, 2023, 11:01:48 AM
I read somewhere, can't remember by who, that Twinlab basically lost the value of the company when ephedra was banned. Products containing ephedra were like 80% of the sales or something like that. Twinlab campaigned like crazy through MD mag to keep it legal.
I wouldn't doubt that. What do guys say when they hear the name Twinlab? Ephedrine! Ripped Fuel!

That came a bit later, but was a huge thing too, they actually kept producing Ephedra products up till close to the end though. The outright Ephedra bans didn't happen in the States till 2002 - 2004ish.         

The start of it was the IPO. The stock was at like $12 and shot up to like $50, and while it was at the big number, the family pulled out a ton of money, and borrowed against it a ton. They took the borrowed money and bought up a bunch of things to grow the business (I think there was another vitamin factory purchase, etc....). One of the brothers wanted to really push into regular sports (like EAS and Met-Rx), and the elderly markets too, so they threw a bunch of money at that too. I don't think they had success in the sports market(besides Andro), but they did ok with the elderly with some wins selling CoEnzyme Q10 and shark cartilage.

Anyway, the slowdown happens, investors start looking at the real numbers and the stock drops huge, it think it lost all its gains and then a bunch extra, but they still have to pay the debt. They cost cut and restructure some, and that keeps them afloat for a while, but then they get hit with more and more ephedra and andro lawsuits. And that was it.

I looked up some articles around the bankruptcy sale, sold for $65ish million against $100+ million in debts.     

Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: MCWAY on November 19, 2023, 11:31:31 AM
I read somewhere, can't remember by who, that Twinlab basically lost the value of the company when ephedra was banned. Products containing ephedra were like 80% of the sales or something like that. Twinlab campaigned like crazy through MD mag to keep it legal.
I wouldn't doubt that. What do guys say when they hear the name Twinlab? Ephedrine! Ripped Fuel!

For me, it was Gainers Fuel (except for that awful Gainers Fuel 2500) and the Lee Haney's Mass Fuel kit (still have the tape that came with it).

A lot of supplement companies took a beating when ephedra/ma huang got banned. MuscleTech made their killing with Hydroxycut. But, when the ephedra and pro hormone ban kicked into gear (no pun intended), MT shifted all its weight to Cell-Tech and Nitro-Tech. As one poster back in the day eloquently put it, "It's pretty hard to f--k up creatine and whey protein powder".
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: pamith on November 19, 2023, 12:09:36 PM
Are my MD magazines worth a lot of money now??
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Grape Ape on November 19, 2023, 12:50:27 PM
Are my MD magazines worth a lot of money now??

No since the pages are all stuck together you retarded cockmonkey.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: wes on November 19, 2023, 12:58:22 PM
No since the pages are all stuck together you retarded cockmonkey.
Let us not forget the roach infestation !  :D
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: a_pupil on November 19, 2023, 02:47:34 PM
We're happy to welcome any former members from the Muscular Development forums here.

They can easily register and/or reach out to us and maybe we can help them retrieve their old usernames in order to give them a sense of continuity.

At the end, we are a community of bodybuilders and enthusiasts who enjoy what this industry has brought to us by way of entertainment and lifestyle. No reason why those former MD forum members can't find a new place to shoot the shit.

Respectfully, GetBig is happy to serve as that bar where anyone can stop by at any time and enjoy themselves.

"1"

A sticky thread would be good for everyone coming over.

2000s Forumcels have to stick together as our numbers are dwindling. It feels like that Eddie Murphy movie Life where all the prison mates die out as the years go on.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: joswift on November 19, 2023, 02:48:25 PM
We're happy to welcome any former members from the Muscular Development forums here.

They can easily register and/or reach out to us and maybe we can help them retrieve their old usernames in order to give them a sense of continuity.

At the end, we are a community of bodybuilders and enthusiasts who enjoy what this industry has brought to us by way of entertainment and lifestyle. No reason why those former MD forum members can't find a new place to shoot the shit.

Respectfully, GetBig is happy to serve as that bar where anyone can stop by at any time and enjoy themselves.

"1"

Dont give them any mod jobs FFS  ;D
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 19, 2023, 03:23:27 PM
Like I stated I was a member and poster at both boards …..and while we should definitely welcome the “ good members” ..those with a lot to contribute…….just keep in the back of your mind that if the roles were reversed and this board closed / shut down …lots of MD No Bull forum members would be like “ Oh NO now those idiots from Get Big will be coming over here to join and post!”
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: joswift on November 19, 2023, 03:29:05 PM
Like I stated I was a member and poster at both boards …..and while we should definitely welcome the “ good members” ..those with a lot to contribute…….just keep in the back of your mind that if the roles were reversed and this board closed / shut down …lots of MD No Bull forum members would be like “ Oh NO now those idiots from Get Big will be coming over here to join and post!”
I was banned from there several times
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Henda on November 19, 2023, 03:55:26 PM
For fucks sake does that mean that stupid fat cunt howard will be back here?
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 19, 2023, 05:05:17 PM
sorry to burst your bubble cotton boy but you caused trouble & were correctly banned.. :D


I was banned from a forum that i had not posted to in over a year uou dingbat.  I didnt care.😃
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 19, 2023, 05:46:40 PM
A sticky thread would be good for everyone coming over.

2000s Forumcels have to stick together as our numbers are dwindling. It feels like that Eddie Murphy movie Life where all the prison mates die out as the years go on.

Done.

"1"
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Taffin on November 20, 2023, 02:42:14 AM
I was banned from there several times

LOL even I got banned for mentioning GetBig on their board - IIRC it was that time that Josh had chased shizzo over there... (speaking of which, have we heard from HazMat Brah lately?  Wondering how he's doing - last time he posted wasn't he living in his car?)
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: GymnJuice on November 20, 2023, 04:34:24 AM

Honestly, the posters at MD who might want to come over here can go fuck themselves.   I've seen their posting and they are nothing but a bunch of whiny little bastards and people who got their feelings hurt over here at Getbig in the past and ran to the bossum of Steve Blechman's forum.   

They come over here and start something, I'm going to burn their house down right in front of them. King Kong ain't got shit on me

You're such a homewrecker, Vince.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: pamith on November 20, 2023, 10:49:34 AM
No since the pages are all stuck together you retarded cockmonkey.
Bro...
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Taffin on November 20, 2023, 02:19:32 PM
Bro...
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Taffin on November 20, 2023, 02:20:53 PM
^^

Trying to make that a thing - I reckon if I can work Will Smith and Neckzilla into it as well somehow (maybe with a Fugitive reference?) I'll win Xmas (or something)...
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: BB on November 20, 2023, 05:31:11 PM
^^

Trying to make that a thing - I reckon if I can work Will Smith and Neckzilla into it as well somehow (maybe with a Fugitive reference?) I'll win Xmas (or something)...

(https://i.postimg.cc/4NCFmT9d/maxresdefault.jpg).

"A cautiously hopeful Will Smith captures a bigg'un while a strange flag flies in the background. The man weeps as he imagines what gay horrors await him."             
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: AbrahamG on November 20, 2023, 11:05:40 PM
Dont give them any mod jobs FFS  ;D

x2
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Rambone on November 21, 2023, 03:23:35 AM
Anybody want to start a bodybuilding magazine with me? It doesn’t even have to make money as long as it’s schmoe-funded
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Taffin on November 21, 2023, 03:19:19 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/4NCFmT9d/maxresdefault.jpg).

"A cautiously hopeful Will Smith captures a bigg'un while a strange flag flies in the background. The man weeps as he imagines what gay horrors await him."             

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Brilliant!  Thanks!  Let me try!

(https://i.postimg.cc/4NCFmT9d/maxresdefault.jpg)

'A cautiously hopeful Will Smith captures a bigg'un while a strange flag flies in the background. The man weeps as he cries, "WAIT!  It wasn't me!!! It was a one-armed Nikka!!!"
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Taffin on November 21, 2023, 03:20:29 PM
Anybody want to start a bodybuilding magazine with me? It doesn’t even have to make money as long as it’s schmoe-funded

If you let me photograph the she-beasts, I'm in!
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: AbrahamG on November 21, 2023, 06:33:00 PM
Back when Giles was with Rosie Harte(sp) she did a photo shoot with Cedric.  I merely suggested she appeared to have a passing interest in the BBC and boom!  I'm banned.  LMFAO!
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: MCWAY on November 21, 2023, 06:36:20 PM
This definitely sucks for the new Mr. Olympia, Derek Lunsford. He doesn't even get a cover with his Sandow.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: AbrahamG on November 21, 2023, 06:43:30 PM
This definitely sucks for the new Mr. Olympia, Derek Lunsford. He doesn't even get a cover with his Sandow.

Karma.  He had no business winning a Sandow.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: MCWAY on November 21, 2023, 07:11:36 PM
Karma.  He had no business winning a Sandow.

He was the runner-up last year. Although, that Samson Douda guy could have taken it.

On another note, I wonder if these folks at MD are going to give me back the rest of my money, since I renewed my subscription just six months ago...probably not.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Block on November 24, 2023, 03:12:28 AM
My thoughts on TwinLab:


DualTabs was the first multi-vitamin I ever bought back in the late 90’s and I remember using it consistently for about 3-4 years. Without a doubt their original Ripped Fuel was their meal ticket. Last summer a buddy of mine was cleaning out his garage and found a bottle of it still with 6 capsules in it. Expiration date was 2002 so he estimated he bought it in 99-2000. The capsules were hard and black but overall well preserved. Sent me a pic with 3 of them in his hand and asked me if I wanted them. A couple days later I stop over and he hands me the bottle still had that old musky pepper smell that ma haung ephedra had. It’s unmistakable. I took two caps. 30 minutes later Blammo! I felt amazing. It kicked in no delayed fuse it was great. I felt awake, alive, alert and it put me in a euphoric mood. Still have the other capsule in a cabinet at home. Now for nostalgic purposes.
Also. I believe TwinLab made a protein powder with 25mg of M1T per serving. Around 2003, maybe. Silver label. It may have been called Andro Fuel or Andro Whey. Who the hell puts 25mg of a 1 Test compound fused with whey isolate?  TwinLab was a big company at one point. As seen in the drug store scene in Natural Born Killers.

 Listening to Jumbo and Blowmano wax about MD was a trip down memory lane. I, too was once a rebel fighter on this forum during those days of the wars between here, MD and Mayhem. Getting the latest issue of MD circa 2001-2007 was special. The magazine had an element that other magazines didn’t have. It was raw and gritty and a little sexual. Dave and John did make the magazine back then. Let’s face it when they got fired and Robbie Durand took over we all lost interest. Nothing was ever the same. After a while Gluteman went off the deep end. Stories of he refusing to pay toadies such as Ron Harris and various photographers and getting industry lackeys to work for free began to circulate making them the butt of a lot of jokes in the bodybuilding circles. People became more and more accessible. Questions were being asked. I’m pretty sure Mike Liberatore told me he never seen a penny from MD when he had his Q&A for a year around 2008 and he was promised $500/month.
I remember Special Ed and I had a bitch of a time getting the money we were promised for expo coverage one year. Over time Gluteman got exposed over and over again for shady business practices and once the toothpaste is out of the tube you can’t put it back in. It’s sad in a sense. MD was once an institution. All things come to an end. Nothing gold can stay.

- Block.

Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on November 24, 2023, 06:27:07 AM
Is elderly Bob Chick ok? Wasn’t MD his life’s highest accomplishment? Has anyone heard from him or can confirm he’s safe?
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Rambone on November 24, 2023, 10:00:20 AM
Ah, I remember using DualTabs as well. It was the goto multivitamin in the early 2000s on the bodybuilding.com forum
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: michael arvilla on November 28, 2023, 03:11:54 PM
…….
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Schadenfreude on November 29, 2023, 01:50:47 PM
…….
Good luck
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Schadenfreude on November 29, 2023, 01:52:02 PM
Is elderly Bob Chick ok? Wasn’t MD his life’s highest accomplishment? Has anyone heard from him or can confirm he’s safe?
Never liked him. He will not be missed.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Schadenfreude on November 29, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Karma.  He had no business winning a Sandow.
Turbo manlets will never learn.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 03, 2023, 10:12:33 AM
Is elderly Bob Chick ok? Wasn’t MD his life’s highest accomplishment? Has anyone heard from him or can confirm he’s safe?

Bob should be fine. He is resourceful and in this industry has more charisma than the vast majority of IFBB pros.

I knew he was under contract and couldn't post in numerous places due to creative content issues, but we would be happy to have him here shooting the shit. He can dish it as well as he can take it, which makes it all the more fun.

"1"
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Flexacon on December 03, 2023, 01:33:55 PM
Bob hasn't been with MD for something like 5 years.

Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: D.O.A. on December 03, 2023, 08:01:42 PM
it was a great Magazine!
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Bestia on December 08, 2023, 06:02:40 AM
Hello guys.  Is there a roll call for former MD regulars?  It was a surprise that the old board suddenly shut down along with the magazine and all.  I was also on the old Muscle Mayhem board back in the day before it too went dark.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Flexacon on December 08, 2023, 06:41:48 AM
Hello guys.  Is there a roll call for former MD regulars?  It was a surprise that the old board suddenly shut down along with the magazine and all.  I was also on the old Muscle Mayhem board back in the day before it too went dark.

Only Cox with a couple of posts. No one else from MD ventured over.

We are all eagerly awaiting Howards return though.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Rambone on December 08, 2023, 06:43:48 AM
Hello guys.  Is there a roll call for former MD regulars?  It was a surprise that the old board suddenly shut down along with the magazine and all.  I was also on the old Muscle Mayhem board back in the day before it too went dark.

Welcome, weary traveler.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Taffin on December 08, 2023, 11:26:07 AM
Welcome, weary traveler.

Not sure that's quite what Wes is going to say to this fella  ;D
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Rambone on December 08, 2023, 12:22:06 PM
Not sure that's quite what Wes is going to say to this fella  ;D

 :D
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Bestia on December 08, 2023, 03:43:02 PM
Not sure that's quite what Wes is going to say to this fella  ;D

Thanks man
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: michael arvilla on December 08, 2023, 06:52:14 PM
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: 1Patrick on December 08, 2023, 07:03:18 PM

Ron as always kept it professional and wish him nothing but the best.Dude tore his quad and lost the job.
Mike get better with those veins man.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Flexacon on December 09, 2023, 09:11:42 AM
Welcome Patrick and Bestia.

If more MD guys want to come over I'll petition Ron Avidan to start a No Bull subforum on here. Some tell Battiona
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: 1Patrick on December 09, 2023, 09:28:08 AM
Welcome Patrick and Bestia.

If more MD guys want to come over I'll petition Ron Avidan to start a No Bull subforum on here. Some tell Battiona
Thanks brother !!
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: wes on December 09, 2023, 10:25:59 AM
Hello guys.  Is there a roll call for former MD regulars?  It was a surprise that the old board suddenly shut down along with the magazine and all.  I was also on the old Muscle Mayhem board back in the day before it too went dark.
Hey there!!

WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME .................FUCKFAC E!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: wes on December 09, 2023, 10:27:32 AM
Bestia and Patrick1...."that is just a thing I`ve been saying for years before I busted a cap in a nikkas ass".   ;D


Seriously.........welcom e to the board!
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: 1Patrick on December 09, 2023, 10:42:10 AM
Bestia and Patrick1...."that is just a thing I`ve been saying for years before I busted a cap in a nikkas ass".   ;D


Seriously.........welcom e to the board!

Appreciate your welcoming Wes .I’ve been lurking here so I know it takes thick skin to blend in .
Bestia glad you are here as well wish few more guys find the way here .
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: wes on December 09, 2023, 10:43:32 AM
Appreciate your welcoming Wes .I’ve been lurking here so I know it takes thick skin to blend in .
Bestia glad you are here as well wish few more guys find the way here .
You`ll be fine brother !  ;)
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Bestia on December 09, 2023, 04:04:26 PM
Thanks again guys.  Felt weird for a few weeks not posting on a bodybuilding forum. I know Arvilla was there from time to time and was on Muscle Mayhem back in the day as well.

1Patrick!!! Great to see you my friend.  All is well here and hope the same for you and yours. 
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: wes on December 09, 2023, 04:08:52 PM
Thanks again guys.  Felt weird for a few weeks not posting on a bodybuilding forum. I know Arvilla was there from time to time and was on Muscle Mayhem back in the day as well.

1Patrick!!! Great to see you my friend.  All is well here and hope the same for you and yours. 
If you posted on Mayhem you may have known me as "ski"....I was a moderator there for quite a while.

Don`t hold it against me.   ;D
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Bestia on December 09, 2023, 05:00:22 PM
Wes I do remember you man - with the old Ski screen ID.  Good to see you still striving and surviving.

I've only read a few threads so far but it didn't take long to determine there seems to be some ongoing "beef" with Bhank. 

I'm sure I'll get up to speed soon.  Thanks again for the welcome all.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: wes on December 09, 2023, 05:55:51 PM
Wes I do remember you man - with the old Ski screen ID.  Good to see you still striving and surviving.

I've only read a few threads so far but it didn't take long to determine there seems to be some ongoing "beef" with Bhank. 

I'm sure I'll get up to speed soon.  Thanks again for the welcome all.
Yeah,I`m still hanging and banging!!  ;)
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: BayGBM on December 12, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
What killed the magazine?  Was it just the internet?
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: BB on December 12, 2023, 10:49:13 AM
From reports, Internet and personal spending/nepotism, mixed with lack of direction.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: joswift on December 12, 2023, 12:24:32 PM
From reports, Internet and personal spending/nepotism, mixed with lack of direction.
they spent too much time on bodybuilding as opposed to having a forum of straight talking people who dont take life too seriously
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Flexacon on December 12, 2023, 12:43:01 PM
From reports, Internet and personal spending/nepotism, mixed with lack of direction.

I almost forgot about Blechmans stoner son working at MD. I think his daughter or some other female member worked there too.

They screwed up on the youtube front too. They had a decent channel in the early days of youtube. They had good content and had built up a good following. Then something happened (guessing someone in charge of the youtube channel lost their job) and MDs access to that youtube channel was lost. After that it was an uphill battle for them on youtube with their new channel.
Title: Re: Muscular Development calls it Quits! Last issue Nov 2023!
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 13, 2023, 12:56:07 AM
What killed the magazine?  Was it just the internet?
The internet killed a lot of magazines and newspapers. At least the trees benefit.