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im using 2iu's eod of serostim and am getting water retention and gyno like symptoms, im very sensitive to all forms of drugs, along with probably reducing the dose to 1iu eod what can i use to combat these sides? adex and a diuretic?
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try splitting the dose into 2 x eod.. ie 1iu pre bed 1iu upon waking.
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im using 2iu's eod of serostim and am getting water retention and gyno like symptoms, im very sensitive to all forms of drugs, along with probably reducing the dose to 1iu eod what can i use to combat these sides? adex and a diuretic?
Your body takes time to adjust. You are lowering your antidiuretic hormone Argine Vasopressin. Reduce your sodium intake, increase your water and your body will adjust. If you are still noticing too much bloating stop your dosage completely for 1-2 days. But at that dosage you should adjust no problem give it a week or two
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im using 2iu's eod of serostim and am getting water retention and gyno like symptoms, im very sensitive to all forms of drugs, along with probably reducing the dose to 1iu eod what can i use to combat these sides? adex and a diuretic?
anything else besides the gh? test, ect.
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yes 1/2 of a cc of sust and 1/2 of a cc mast prop every 3 days
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yes 1/2 of a cc of sust and 1/2 of a cc mast prop every 3 days
anti e would help
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ok adex seems to work ok for me, how often?
ive tried letro but it seems to crash my system and i get sick
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ok adex seems to work ok for me, how often?
ive tried letro but it seems to crash my system and i get sick
1mg couple times per week imo is a good start...
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ok thanks guys, appreciate everyone's input
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I'm not any kind of doctor so take this just as an anonymous bro comment on a forum. If I truly had too much water retention on those paltry dosages I would try Telmisartan. It's not a diuretic outright, it's mostly a BP med but does help control water retention from drugs. It can actually be a good idea to run for any bb even without BP issues, might help mitigate heart hypertrophy, protect the kidneys and so on. I know from experience it may almost completely eliminate edema from PEDs.
"Gyno-like symptoms." I wrote on another thread that many guys imagine themselves having developing gyno. They may go all day squeezing the nipples to check for gyno, of course they'll be sore lol. But let's say they really are sore suddenly, and it can actually be pretty
painful, I'd take an "attack" dose of antiestrogens, e.g. one tab of letrozole and maybe 60 or more milligrams of Nolvadex, and I'd also take at least a triple dose of Masteron as it's a breast cancer drug after all. Just one day of dosing these can make all symptoms disappear, and if it does just repeat if symptoms reappear, no need to take them for weeks and get all the side effects. Nolvadex ran for a longer while can be a double whammy combating gyno since it lowers IGF-1. Because IGF-1 is CENTRAL in gyno development along with the estrogens. But at the same time it's not the best idea to take if running GH for what should be obvious reasons, because taking GH which then releases IGF-1 is the reason it's taken in the first place.
Another pet peeve of mine is the assumption most water retention from roids is through estrogen, which isn't true. They all cause sodium retention and affect mineralcorticoid receptors. If you look at the prescribing info for all steroids they all warn of possible edema, even roids like Halotestin and Winstrol. And paradoxically even the antiestrogens can cause water retention sometimes.
But, basically I would take telmisartan to start and there's a good chance of it solving the "problem." Of course some bodybuilders use milder diuretics like aldactone or hydrochlorothiazide but I myself probably wouldn't go that route before trying the telmisartan or another ARB drug.
But I'm no doctor, all drugs have side effects, even the ones used to mitigate PED sides, so ask your GP lol 8)
Probably most juicers do not know that GH/IGF-1 affects breast growth.
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Your body takes time to adjust. You are lowering your antidiuretic hormone Argine Vasopressin. Reduce your sodium intake, increase your water and your body will adjust. If you are still noticing too much bloating stop your dosage completely for 1-2 days. But at that dosage you should adjust no problem give it a week or two
Just take a bottle a day you fucking pussy
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I'm not any kind of doctor so take this just as an anonymous bro comment on a forum. If I truly had too much water retention on those paltry dosages I would try Telmisartan. It's not a diuretic outright, it's mostly a BP med but does help control water retention from drugs. It can actually be a good idea to run for any bb even without BP issues, might help mitigate heart hypertrophy, protect the kidneys and so on. I know from experience it may almost completely eliminate edema from PEDs.
"Gyno-like symptoms." I wrote on another thread that many guys imagine themselves having developing gyno. They may go all day squeezing the nipples to check for gyno, of course they'll be sore lol. But let's say they really are sore suddenly, and it can actually be pretty
painful, I'd take an "attack" dose of antiestrogens, e.g. one tab of letrozole and maybe 60 or more milligrams of Nolvadex, and I'd also take at least a triple dose of Masteron as it's a breast cancer drug after all. Just one day of dosing these can make all symptoms disappear, and if it does just repeat if symptoms reappear, no need to take them for weeks and get all the side effects. Nolvadex ran for a longer while can be a double whammy combating gyno since it lowers IGF-1. Because IGF-1 is CENTRAL in gyno development along with the estrogens. But at the same time it's not the best idea to take if running GH for what should be obvious reasons, because taking GH which then releases IGF-1 is the reason it's taken in the first place.
Another pet peeve of mine is the assumption most water retention from roids is through estrogen, which isn't true. They all cause sodium retention and affect mineralcorticoid receptors. If you look at the prescribing info for all steroids they all warn of possible edema, even roids like Halotestin and Winstrol. And paradoxically even the antiestrogens can cause water retention sometimes.
But, basically I would take telmisartan to start and there's a good chance of it solving the "problem." Of course some bodybuilders use milder diuretics like aldactone or hydrochlorothiazide but I myself probably wouldn't go that route before trying the telmisartan or another ARB drug.
But I'm no doctor, all drugs have side effects, even the ones used to mitigate PED sides, so ask your GP lol 8)
Probably most juicers do not know that GH/IGF-1 affects breast growth.
Some great input there. Post saved. Thx for the info.
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Your body takes time to adjust. You are lowering your antidiuretic hormone Argine Vasopressin. Reduce your sodium intake, increase your water and your body will adjust. If you are still noticing too much bloating stop your dosage completely for 1-2 days. But at that dosage you should adjust no problem give it a week or two
How many IU,s do you take per day???
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How many IU,s do you take per day???
Its a lot, thats why he wont say
He is maxed out on anything he gan get his hands on
I would wager at least a gram of test probably more
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How many IU,s do you take per day???
I take enough. If I give a number everyone will read too much into it. Since these people dont' take HGH and don't know anything about it I don't need to argue dosages with them. Kind of like TRT
I will say using HGH in addition is better than increasing your test to me at least. I don't like using a lot of oil
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I take enough. If I give a number everyone will read too much into it. Since these people dont' take HGH and don't know anything about it I don't need to argue dosages with them. Kind of like TRT
I will say using HGH in addition is better than increasing your test to me at least. I don't like using a lot of oil
You can tell Brian has been watching Roman Fritz talking about 52 ius a day
And Brian thinks people here dont know about HGH
Fucks sake hes a legend in his own fantasy world
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highest I went up to was 5iu per day
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Since these people dont' take HGH and don't know anything about it I don't need to argue dosages with them. Kind of like TRT
I will say using HGH in addition is better than increasing your test to me at least. I don't like using a lot of oil
So a shit ton, just like the TRT Hankins does was 400mg.
Pec money went on trike and GH?
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I take enough. If I give a number everyone will read too much into it. Since these people dont' take HGH and don't know anything about it I don't need to argue dosages with them. Kind of like TRT
I will say using HGH in addition is better than increasing your test to me at least. I don't like using a lot of oil
why would you think using GH is better than increasing test when you think GH doesnt add muscle?
My buddy started on the cream it didn't do much for him so he switched to the injections. 100mg isn't going to do a whole lot regarldess. To give you an idea I cruise around 3-400mg year round with no other anabolics I do take HGH but that is anti aging it's not building any muscle. I am also 215lbs and below 10%.
Just tired of arguing with ignorant people figured I would drop some knowledge. I am no expert but I do think this is a good summary of the health benefits to start. I think this info is more relevant to the average 50 plus year old getbigger than the typical info you see on the subject in the bodybuilding community.
HGH is for anti aging you want to get huge buy some dianabol instead
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highest I went up to was 5iu per day
Yeah. I tried 4 for a while but my usual is 3iu a shot every 8 hours to keep the half life thingy consistent in blood stream. Haven't took any for a few years due to an accident but getting back into it, probably by New Year. Just steadily rebuilding for now on hardly anything
Not sure why bhanky thinks nobody takes hgh. It's so common now. I'd compare it to cocaine popularity. Everybody seems to be shoving that crap up themselves these days.
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Coke in our city is easier to get dropped off than a takeaway it’s not for me but lots of the lads don’t go out without it
Hgh is fairly common lots of Chinese generics genx are meant to be ok
A lot of the gentrophin pens are copied even in. Turkey for those bringing back souvenirs from holidays
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You can tell Brian has been watching Roman Fritz talking about 52 ius a day
And Brian thinks people here dont know about HGH
Fucks sake hes a legend in his own fantasy world
People here don't even know shit about TRT watching stupid youtube videos or reading is not the same as actually having personal experience and knowing.
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So a shit ton, just like the TRT Hankins does was 400mg.
Pec money went on trike and GH?
Ok let’s put this to rest with definitive evidence 300mg per fucking week TRT prescribed by a Dr go ahead let dipshit Jeff tell us how 200mg is the legal limit again you people don’t know shit
Is it an old script sure I am not sharing my current Dr info here
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People here don't even know shit about TRT watching stupid youtube videos or reading is not the same as actually having personal experience and knowing.
of course everyone on here are all wrong and you are right.
Everyone elses experience of TRT is 125mgs a week yours is 350-400
In your world Tramadol is not an opioid
Em is faithful to you
Spencer is clever
You were in great shape at the Cup dominating the class
You look cool on your trike...
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So a shit ton, just like the TRT Hankins does was 400mg.
Pec money went on trike and GH?
I will get the pec fixed in due time don't worry
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of course everyone on here are all wrong and you are right.
Everyone elses experience of TRT is 125mgs a week yours is 350-400
In your world Tramadol is not an opioid
Em is faithful to you
Spencer is clever
You were in great shape at the Cup dominating the class
You look cool on your trike...
See above or below definitive proof I was prescribed 300mg TRT
But you claim 200mg is legal limit and DJ claims they wont prescribe more than 150 and no Dr would ever prescribe 300mg you people simply dont know what the fuck you are talking about so stfu already
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I take enough. If I give a number everyone will read too much into it. Since these people dont' take HGH and don't know anything about it I don't need to argue dosages with them. Kind of like TRT
I will say using HGH in addition is better than increasing your test to me at least. I don't like using a lot of oil
I don't understand why you need to be secretive about it if the dosage is modest. So it must not be.
I don't use GH.
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Ok let’s put this to rest with definitive evidence 300mg per fucking week TRT prescribed by a Dr go ahead let dipshit Jeff tell us how 200mg is the legal limit again you people don’t know shit
Is it an old script sure I am not sharing my current Dr info here
thats because you went to some bent underground doctor.
Fuck of with your semantics Brian
PS love the address on the box
https://www.loopnet.co.uk/Listing/1210-NW-23rd-Ave-Gainesville-FL/26468628/
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I don't understand why you need to be secretive about it if the dosage is modest. So it must not be.
I don't use GH.
Because it doesn't matter how much you use that is the entire fucking point. I guarantee you take a ton more oil than me as well though. HGH is not for size. If anyone ask I would say take as much as you can afford. But again everyone here seems to think they are my accountant now instead of worrying about their finances and what they can afford.
Why does it matter what Vigourous fuck all takes if you can't afford food? Or if you don't even lift? Why do I need to argue dosages with trolls who don't even train much less use and have exp with HGH
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thats because you went to some bent underground doctor.
Fuck of with your semantics Brian
So proof that I was prescribed 300mg after you claim 200mg is legal limit and I am lying about it is now semantics???
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So proof that I was prescribed 300mg after you claim 200mg is legal limit and I am lying about it is now semantics???
its proof you went to an underground doctor in Gainesville
Its 12 hours away from your house Brain
https://www.loopnet.co.uk/Listing/1210-NW-23rd-Ave-Gainesville-FL/26468628/
Its now empty
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kitty+Hawk,+North+Carolina+27949,+USA/1210+NW+23rd+Ave,+Gainesville,+FL+32609,+USA/@32.8534912,-81.6084999,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89a4e02e4f1acf99:0xbe6f5aea12b3aff8!2m2!1d-75.7057346!2d36.0646102!1m5!1m1!1s0x88e8a464ff29dfe7:0x9d9d568477fbfbde!2m2!1d-82.3373628!2d29.6742413?entry=ttu
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Because it doesn't matter how much you use that is the entire fucking point. I guarantee you take a ton more oil than me as well though. HGH is not for size.
Compared to other competitive national level and pro bodybuilders my usage is moderate.
All the big boys are taking more than a couple of IU a day for a reason.
You must be taking a fair bit.
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its proof you went to an underground doctor in Gainesville
Its 12 hours away from your house Brain
https://www.loopnet.co.uk/Listing/1210-NW-23rd-Ave-Gainesville-FL/26468628/
Its now empty
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kitty+Hawk,+North+Carolina+27949,+USA/1210+NW+23rd+Ave,+Gainesville,+FL+32609,+USA/@32.8534912,-81.6084999,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89a4e02e4f1acf99:0xbe6f5aea12b3aff8!2m2!1d-75.7057346!2d36.0646102!1m5!1m1!1s0x88e8a464ff29dfe7:0x9d9d568477fbfbde!2m2!1d-82.3373628!2d29.6742413?entry=ttu
What the Fuck is an Underground Doctor???????
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What the Fuck is an Underground Doctor???????
why drive 12 hours to a fucking doctor when you have doctors on your fucking doorstep unless you have an agenda
The guy you went to gave you that because you fucking paid him to
You wont address the above because you know you are full of shit
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Compared to other competitive national level and pro bodybuilders my usage is moderate.
All the big boys are taking more than a couple of IU a day for a reason.
You must be taking a fair bit.
I am not saying it isn't. I am saying it doesn't really matter. No one gets a cookie for taking more or less. I am taking what I budgeted to be able to afford for an extended period of time. That number is different for everyone.
I would be a lot bigger if I had put those funds into AAS but I decided I didn't want to do that and my health was more important so I went with the HGH
I can not push food anymore I am just going to get in shape
Everyone has to make their own decision but the benefits I am looking for are long term and take time and they dont involve blowing up to 250lbs
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I am not saying it isn't. I am saying it doesn't really matter. No one gets a cookie for taking more or less. I am taking what I budgeted to be able to afford for an extended period of time. That number is different for everyone.
Poor Brian, still cant give a straight answer , dodgeing and weaving .
Cue "I dont have to keep arguing with you guys"
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Poor Brian, still cant give a straight answer , dodgeing and weaving .
Cue "I dont have to keep arguing with you guys"
Take as much as you can afford not sure how much more specific I can be with advice. How much I take is no one else's business but my advice should tell you all you need to know for yourself.
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Vincen Disanto who gave you the script Brian
https://health.ri.gov/discipline/DOVinsonDiSanto.pdf
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reprimanded for prescribing Testosterone
Now go get your fucking shine box
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Take as much as you can afford not sure how much more specific I can be with advice. How much I take is no one else's business but my advice should tell you all you need to know for yourself.
I thought you were broke...
Make your fucking mind up
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Vincen Disanto who gave you the script Brian
https://health.ri.gov/discipline/DOVinsonDiSanto.pdf
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reprimanded for prescribing Testosterone
Now go get your fucking shine box
He got a 1400 dollar fine whoop de do that doesnt make him an "underground doctor" lol
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Vincen Disanto who gave you the script Brian
https://health.ri.gov/discipline/DOVinsonDiSanto.pdf
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reprimanded for prescribing Testosterone
Now go get your fucking shine box
:D
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I thought you were broke...
Make your fucking mind up
Again no idea why everyone here thinks they are my accountant. I do not have a lot of funds for bullshit right now that is true. However I do have priorities that I budget for. Everyone needs to stop asking what dosages someone else takes and ask themselves what their priorities and goals and health concerns and finances are I can't answer that for anyone else and neither should Vigours Steve or Marky Mark.
As far as HGH I would say take what works into your budget without sacrificing your lifestyle no one here is in any danger of taking too much
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He got a 1400 dollar fine whoop de do that doesnt make him an "underground doctor" lol
https://www.nj.gov/oag/newsreleases17/Salani-Verf-Complaint.pdf
he was involved in this case as well running a clinic and writing out scripts so other non doctors could complete them on his behalf
42. Mrs. Robinson witnessed Defendant write prescription scripts for prescription legend drugs, controlled dangerous substances or ordering medical tests for patients. She explained that Defendant is the only person in the room with the patient, and.when the patient exits the room,they have New Jersey Prescription Blanks filled out and signed with the name Vinson DiSanto DO, but the signature is in the handwriting of Defendant.(Merchant Cert., E xhibitI,Page 5:11-17.)
Guys a fucking crook
Poor Brian, just because his fake doctor only got a small fine it makes him legit
Same with his own "expunged" record
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Again no idea why everyone here thinks they are my accountant. I do not have a lot of funds for bullshit right now that is true. However I do have priorities that I budget for. Everyone needs to stop asking what dosages someone else takes and ask themselves what their priorities and goals and health concerns and finances are I can't answer that for anyone else and neither should Vigours Steve or Marky Mark.
As far as HGH I would say take what works into your budget without sacrificing your lifestyle no one here is in any danger of taking too much
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Take as much as you can afford not sure how much more specific I can be with advice. How much I take is no one else's business but my advice should tell you all you need to know for yourself.
My guess is about 8-10iu per day.
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He got a 1400 dollar fine whoop de do that doesnt make him an "underground doctor" lol
it makes him a bent doctor who sells testosterone disguised with a script
Why did you travel 12 hours or did he send it through the post without ever seeing you?
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https://www.nj.gov/oag/newsreleases17/Salani-Verf-Complaint.pdf
he was involved in this case as well running a clinic and writing out scripts so other non doctors could complete them on his behalf
Guys a fucking crook
Poor Brian, just because his fake doctor only got a small fine it makes him legit
Same with his own "expunged" record
I DONT CARE
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My guess is about 8-10iu per day.
he said a bottle a day, most chinese copies are 10 iu vials
So yes, you are right, around 10 ius
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https://www.nj.gov/oag/newsreleases17/Salani-Verf-Complaint.pdf
he was involved in this case as well running a clinic and writing out scripts so other non doctors could complete them on his behalf
Guys a fucking crook
Poor Brian, just because his fake doctor only got a small fine it makes him legit
Same with his own "expunged" record
He had a medical license and wrote a prescription that makes him a real Dr idiot
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My guess is about 8-10iu per day.
Cool and that is fine that is not correct but it doesn't matter take whatever you want to take. My understanding is how long you take HGH is more important than how much you take.
When budgeting HGH into your training and lifestyle pick a dosage you can afford to take for 12 months at least. Give it some time. Now obviously if you can afford to take a lot for 12 months great. But better to take a little for 12 months than a lot for 6 weeks
This is a compound you want to stay on year after year like TRT this is not something to cycle
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I DONT CARE
ooo hes mad again, caught lying once again...
We may as well take every single thing you write now as a lie
TRT is 125mgs a week and you get your levels tested regularly. FACT
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He had a medical license and wrote a prescription that makes him a real Dr idiot
A reprimand and a fine for doing it makes him bent.
Guy is involved in two cases of malpractice and I only spent 5 minutes looking
He will give anyone a script if they pay him
You didnt even visit the clinic did you?
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Cool and that is fine that is not correct but it doesn't matter take whatever you want to take. My understanding is how long you take HGH is more important than how much you take.
When budgeting HGH into your training and lifestyle pick a dosage you can afford to take for 12 months at least. Give it some time. Now obviously if you can afford to take a lot for 12 months great. But better to take a little for 12 months than a lot for 6 weeks
This is a compound you want to stay on year after year like TRT this is not something to cycle
The long term health risks are...decreased insulin sensitivity, decreased thyroid output, growth of the heart and other internal organs, growth of the jaw,cranium,hands and feet, increased risk of the growth of tumors and cancer cells. So yeah do whatever you feel is best for your health.
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What the Fuck is an Underground Doctor???????
It’s called going to titan medical where dr greg Valentino gives your a script.
No real, TRT doctor or endo would give you 300 mgs a week.
You went to a TRT clinic, they make money on pumping out scripts nothing else.
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ooo hes mad again, caught lying once again...
We may as well take every single thing you write now as a lie
TRT is 125mgs a week and you get your levels tested regularly. FACT
Jesus keep beating the same deadhorse No one cares
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He had a medical license and wrote a prescription that makes him a real Dr idiot
The same doctors website who got taken down right or shut down. Remember that.
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http://app02.k3systems.com/Licensing/uploads/disciplinary/1/Disciplinary_SettlementAgreement_419_Disanto-20191115.pdf
Another one
licence suspended in 2019 for selling mail order
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So a shit ton, just like the TRT Hankins does was 400mg.
Pec money went on trike and GH?
And still only benching 315, maybe
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Jesus keep beating the same deadhorse No one cares
Liar
fucks sake set an example to Spencer or hes going to pick this shitty trait up from you
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The long term health risks are...decreased insulin sensitivity, decreased thyroid output, growth of the heart and other internal organs, growth of the jaw,cranium,hands and feet, increased risk of the growth of tumors and cancer cells. So yeah do whatever you feel is best for your health.
I am not going to agree with the statements you made above but it is up to everyone to review their own health review all information and reach their own conclusions and choices as grown adults. I personally believe what I am doing is improving my health. But no I don't want to argue with everyone about it do your own research and make your own decisions.
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And still only benching 315, maybe
315 when one pec is torn in half and holding on by a thread is fucking awesome
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The same doctors website who got taken down right or shut down. Remember that.
Guy is a serial offender, there are cases racked up
He was suspended indefinitely in 2019
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I am not going to agree with the statements you made above but it is up to everyone to review their own health review all information and reach their own conclusions and choices as grown adults. I personally believe what I am doing is improving my health. But no I don't want to argue with everyone about it do your own research and make your own decisions.
104 ailments and counting
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why would you think using GH is better than increasing test when you think GH doesnt add muscle?
Anti-aging? Are you fucking kidding me? He’s posted 50 fat faced pics here where he looks in his 60s or 70s.
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Anti-aging? Are you fucking kidding me? He’s posted 50 fat faced pics here where he looks in his 60s or 70s.
Ligaments, tendons, collagen, hair, skin, nails, digestive system, eyesight, metabolism, brain health etc etc
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Vinson Michael DiSanto, D.O., License No. 02001789A, Cause No. 2019 MLB 0026
Respondent did not appear telephonically and was not represented by counsel regarding an Extension of Summary Suspension scheduled before the Board. The State of Indiana was represented by Nick Hart, Deputy Attorney General and the court reporter sworn in for this matter, Margie Addington with Accurate Reporting Services also appeared telephonically.
Nick Hart, Deputy Attorney General motioned for the Board to VACATE the Summary Suspension Extension.
On April 29, 2020 the Kentucky Board of Medicine placed Dr. DiSanto’s license on an order of restriction and the State no longer feels Dr. DiSanto is an immediate threat to the health and safety of Indiana residents.
After taking official, judicial notice of the pleadings, evidence, and orders in this matter the Board moved to DENY the State’s request to VACATE the Summary Suspension Extension. Barai/No Second, Motion Fails.
After further discussion and taking official, judicial notice of the pleadings, evidence, and orders in this matter the Board moved to VACATE the Summary Suspension Extension
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still suspended as of 2020
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Ligaments, tendons, collagen, hair, skin, nails, digestive system, eyesight, metabolism, brain health etc etc
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Fucks sake just look at Brians "legit" doctors rap sheet
Its bigger than Brians
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https://mqa-internet.doh.state.fl.us/MQASearchServices/HealthCareProviders/PractitionerProfilePrintFriendly?LicInd=9829&ProCde=1901
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https://www.wcb.ny.gov/content/main/SubjectNos/sn046_1406.jsp
Dr. Di Santo is prohibited from performing independent medical examinations, and from conducting reviews of records regarding variance requests pursuant to 12 NYCRR § 324.3(b)(2)(ii)(a), while his authorization is temporarily suspended. Reports submitted by Dr. Di Santo for services rendered prior to May 1, 2021 are valid but are invalid for any services rendered on or after that date. Requests to cross-examine Dr. Di Santo for services rendered prior to May 1, 2021, should not be denied due to the suspension of his authorization.
This suspension remains in effect until further notice. Any questions regarding the authorized lists should be referred to the Medical Director's Office at 1 (800) 781-2362.
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Got his licence back in April 2023
http://www.ksbha.org/boardactions/Documents/2023/DiSanto__2023-04-05__Journal_Entry.pdf
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oops nope suspended again
https://portal.ncmedboard.org/Verification/viewer.aspx?ID=164435&type=&tab=Actions
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https://quackwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/33/quackwatch/casewatch/board/med/disanto/wv_2011.pdf
hes a fucking liar like Brian
On August 7,2009, the Respondent submitted an application for a license to practice osteopathic medicine and surgery to the Board. On his application , he was asked , "Have you ever been dropped , suspended , placed on probation , expelled or requested to resign from any school, college or university? " The Respondent answered "No" to this question.
On June 14 , 2010 , the Board learned that the Respondent had been dismissed from the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine on June 20 , 1979 , for a period of time for academic
reasons.
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Another priceless thread :D
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Crooked Doctor Of Peace
Quack Of Peace
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Bri if you think whatever crazy shit you're doing to your body has had any other effect other than premature ageing you are as deluded as always.
Go look at your face from 3 years ago, you have aged a lot in a relatively short time span.
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Brian’s “proof” turned out to be shit once again, prescription mill crooked doctor suspended in multiple states. Quite the expert. Probably thinks Tramadol is good also. But even that crook won’t touch melatonin.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/qBPRRJqW/the-best-joe-rogan-podcast-comedian-guests.jpg).
"Let me tell you something Joe Rogan. Years ago on the East Coast I knew this guy, Brian Higgins, Bram Harkins, something like that. Greatest doctor shopper you ever saw Joe Rogan. He'd sit there for hours just testing things, snorting them, shooting them, and calling around to doctors offices. Boy, he'd sit there till his ass bled, the guy just couldn't be faded Joe. This fucking guy was a junkie's junkie, get this, I think he married a drug court attorney."
(https://i.postimg.cc/2SK1H3gb/Untitled-4.png).
(Actual picture of Brian's doctor.)
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There were 2 well known crooked docs back in my hometown years ago......they would prescribe anything for you and lie on forms/paperwork so people could get Welfare or disability checks.
They got screwed by the authorities before getting kicked out of the medical profession as far as I can recall.
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Fucks sake just look at Brians "legit" doctors rap sheet
Its bigger than Brians
(https://i.ibb.co/2PcpYYc/Screenshot-2024-07-12-at-23-34-17.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZXPW7LF/Screenshot-2024-07-12-at-23-34-38.png)
https://mqa-internet.doh.state.fl.us/MQASearchServices/HealthCareProviders/PractitionerProfilePrintFriendly?LicInd=9829&ProCde=1901
Hahha, birds of a feather.
This doctor legit is close to loosing his license.
Of course, he will prescribe anything.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/qBPRRJqW/the-best-joe-rogan-podcast-comedian-guests.jpg).
"Let me tell you something Joe Rogan. Years ago on the East Coast I knew this guy, Brian Higgins, Bram Harkins, something like that. Greatest doctor shopper you ever saw Joe Rogan. He'd sit there for hours just testing things, snorting them, shooting them, and calling around to doctors offices. Boy, he'd sit there till his ass bled, the guy just couldn't be faded Joe. This fucking guy was a junkie's junkie, get this, I think he married a drug court attorney."
(https://i.postimg.cc/2SK1H3gb/Untitled-4.png).
(Actual picture of Brian's doctor.)
Fucking good shit BB ! ;D
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Your body takes time to adjust. You are lowering your antidiuretic hormone Argine Vasopressin. Reduce your sodium intake, increase your water and your body will adjust. If you are still noticing too much bloating stop your dosage completely for 1-2 days. But at that dosage you should adjust no problem give it a week or two
Douche....ADH and argine vasopressin (sic) are the same fucking thing. Although you probably meant arginine because you're so smart
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Good thread with joswift in hot pursuit
Below is a prior bhank exchange that gives an idea i.e. likely at least 5iu, with a lot of hands-on experience at much higher levels:
No the Dr would not prescribe enough to work. Scott is also too much of a pussy to do anything to fix the problem. But yes absolutely through hormonal support training and nutrition Scott could walk again. 3 years ago I could not walk unassisted. I had synovial fluid swelling my knees larger than my quads which were completely atrophied because I could not walk. I had bone on bone no cartilage just grinding away in both knees. Hell I could not straighten out the leg I had so much joint inflammation much less stand. They were pulling 100cc of fluid out of the knees every time I went to the Dr. I used all my knowledge. I no longer have any fluid in either knee. Dr have been doing HGH shots directly into patients knee joints for decades now. Assuming he doesn't have the Cajones to inject intra articular its going to take a higher dosage. Additionally he will want to use other anti inflammatory compounds and peptides. But by using everything in the tool box and progressive resistance training yes absolutely he would be able to walk again.
Does anyone else here have mobility issues? Knee back shoulder pain? Start banging 15iu a day with additional hormonal support while training and you are going to start feeling better. I can walk again hell I am squatting now not going to apologize for that to anyone.
What type of sides are you getting from 15iu a day?
At 30iu you will get pitting edema in your lower legs you will not be able to maintain this dosage due to the continued swelling without something to treat it or lowering the dosage. At 15iu you may notice some edema in your lower legs. Hand swelling and carpal tunnel are standard. 8-10lbs of subcuteos water. Drowsiness. 2-3 days of non usage or a mild diuretic will treat this issue. Diet ie excessive drinking of gatorade while on can exacerbate it. The additional water does give almost instant relief of mild joint issues and long term usage absolutely reduces chronic pain and inflammation. A butterfly will emerge from the cocoon. Crippling injuries become nagging injuries nagging injuries disappear.
But what do I know I am just a 44 year old broke down crippled slob with a skinny fat dadbod but at least I smiled tonight after like 7 or 8 meals today
I agree I think 5iu a day is probably perfect for long term maintenance. 10iu is more than enough I am sure but sometimes you feel really beat up and want to make extra sure
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=676569.25
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its great ho w Brian refuses to admit his dosage
I'm going for a pen of gen a day
36 iu
to look like shit
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Ligaments, tendons, collagen, hair, skin, nails, digestive system, eyesight, metabolism, brain health etc etc
1) According to you, you've torn all your ligaments and tendons so there isn't much to repair
2) Hair? HA HA...have you seen that dome of yours?
3) Skin? You have the skin of that woman from Something About Mary
4) Nails? Christ...everyone vomits when you show pics of those cement scrapers you call toe nails
5) digestive system? The one that is making you vomit gallons of bile?
6) Eyesight? You're is pure shit...plain and simple
7) Metabolism? Yeah, from the guy who is on other shit (remember your goodie box from the closet) and won't admit it
8) Brain health? You have said more retarded things in a week than DJ has in 6 mos.
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Good thread with joswift in hot pursuit
Below is a prior bhank exchange that give an idea i.e. likely at least 5iu, with a lot of hands-on experience at much higher levels:
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=676569.25
Wonderful work
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Wonderful work
Yes, kudos, well deserved for exposing that bullshitter
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1) According to you, you've torn all your ligaments and tendons so there isn't much to repair
2) Hair? HA HA...have you seen that dome of yours?
3) Skin? You have the skin of that woman from Something About Mary
4) Nails? Christ...everyone vomits when you show pics of those cement scrapers you call toe nails
5) digestive system? The one that is making you vomit gallons of bile?
6) Eyesight? You're is pure shit...plain and simple
7) Metabolism? Yeah, from the guy who is on other shit (remember your goodie box from the closet) and won't admit it
8) Brain health? You have said more retarded things in a week than DJ has in 6 mos.
Kranks back !! LOL ;D
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Clearly his eyesight is not worth a shit based on his evaluation of his physique pics he posts here
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Bri if you think whatever crazy shit you're doing to your body has had any other effect other than premature ageing you are as deluded as always.
Go look at your face from 3 years ago, you have aged a lot in a relatively short time span.
No he hasn’t.
Brian Hankins illegal drug use has allowed him to reach the pinnacle of health and fitness.
NASA’s endocrinology department wants to study him. Bailey Sanchez wants to grab onto Hankins tightly and drain him like one empties a plugged bottle of ketchup.
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Douche....ADH and argine vasopressin (sic) are the same fucking thing. Although you probably meant arginine because you're so smart
No shit you dumbfuck
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Good thread with joswift in hot pursuit
Below is a prior bhank exchange that gives an idea i.e. likely at least 5iu, with a lot of hands-on experience at much higher levels:
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=676569.25
Take a 100iu I don't give a fuck what part of take as much as you can afford is confusing? I am not recommending you ake 1 fucking IU I said as much as you can afford? Can you afford 30iu a day forever? If yes go for it
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Clearly his eyesight is not worth a shit based on his evaluation of his physique pics he posts here
Right I am out of shape and the rest of you are Greek gods bullshit
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1) According to you, you've torn all your ligaments and tendons so there isn't much to repair
2) Hair? HA HA...have you seen that dome of yours?
3) Skin? You have the skin of that woman from Something About Mary
4) Nails? Christ...everyone vomits when you show pics of those cement scrapers you call toe nails
5) digestive system? The one that is making you vomit gallons of bile?
6) Eyesight? You're is pure shit...plain and simple
7) Metabolism? Yeah, from the guy who is on other shit (remember your goodie box from the closet) and won't admit it
8) Brain health? You have said more retarded things in a week than DJ has in 6 mos.
It takes 6 months to start seeing some of the benefits and a year for others. Again this is not a short-term thing if you can't allocate a year to a healthy dosage then HGH is not for you
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Yes, kudos, well deserved for exposing that bullshitter
Who is bullshitting I said take what you can afford if you can afford 100iu a day go for it
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so Brian
how much do you take daily?
its not. hard question to answer. unless you know you will look bad with the answer.
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No shit you dumbfuck
So why didn't you just say ADH or arginine vasopressin? Its like saying yellow jaundice.....ass clown
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It takes 6 months to start seeing some of the benefits and a year for others. Again this is not a short-term thing if you can't allocate a year to a healthy dosage then HGH is not for you
Does not discount the list of your shitty body I laid out. HGH isn't for you either.
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so Brian
how much do you take daily?
its not. hard question to answer. unless you know you will look bad with the answer.
Why would I look bad? Just put me down for 100iu a day I don't care
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Does not discount the list of your shitty body I laid out. HGH isn't for you either.
I am waiting to hear back from the gym we are going to find out whose body is shitty and who really is the 99th percentile. Crossfit cardio isn't going to help you when you are getting choked out. What are you weighing these days I don't want any perceived advantage
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Why would I look bad? Just put me down for 100iu a day I don't care
you are avoiding the question Brian
like you avoid the question about your D1 wresting record?
the one about your brothers kids?
why you had a probation officer?
the more oyu avoid the more people will draw their own conclusions that oyu are a bullshitter. Again.
NO talk of Spencer being picked up or dropped off? again. weird.
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I am waiting to hear back from the gym we are going to find out whose body is shitty and who really is the 99th percentile. Crossfit cardio isn't going to help you when you are getting choked out. What are you weighing these days I don't want any perceived advantage
What does weight have to do with anything Brian....didn't you say "anyone, anytime"? Worrying about advantage is just another out for you.
Whats next for you wanting to know about opponent:
1) Net worth?
2) Browser history?
3) cock size?
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What does weight have to do with anything Brian....didn't you say "anyone, anytime"? Worrying about advantage is just another out for you.
Whats next for you wanting to know about opponent:
1) Net worth?
2) Browser history?
3) cock size?
I dont want you to bitch I had a 30lb weight advantage after I beat your ass. I am going to come in as close to your weight as I can I don't want to hear any excuses later.
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I dont want you to bitch I had a 30lb weight advantage after I beat your ass. I am going to come in as close to your weight as I can I don't want to hear any excuses later.
What is your opponent weighed 185? Would you risk imminent death by getting close to that weight?
Lots of dancing around Brian...sounds like what a true tough guy would do.
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someones getting. worried
hankins tactic b
get out of fight by feigning worry about being unfair to your opponent
and yet in all hi Emma 'career' he didn't care. and got his arse handed to him 3 times out of 3. A 100% loss record
if krank says he is 185 hanks will say its unfair he outweighs him so no fight
again no challenge ever lasts more than 24 hours in hankins land.
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What is your opponent weighed 185? Would you risk imminent death by getting close to that weight?
Lots of dancing around Brian...sounds like what a true tough guy would do.
Fine I am willing to come in at 205lbs that is the best I can do. I will not show up 220+.
No one is dancing I already sent out the request and unlike Josh I contacted an actual mma gym instead of a kiddy karate mcdojo
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Fucks sake just look at Brians "legit" doctors rap sheet
Its bigger than Brians
(https://i.ibb.co/2PcpYYc/Screenshot-2024-07-12-at-23-34-17.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZXPW7LF/Screenshot-2024-07-12-at-23-34-38.png)
https://mqa-internet.doh.state.fl.us/MQASearchServices/HealthCareProviders/PractitionerProfilePrintFriendly?LicInd=9829&ProCde=1901
Hanky if you had shared your lawyers with your doctor you'd still have that pill mill connection.
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Fine I am willing to come in at 205lbs that is the best I can do. I will not show up 220+.
No one is dancing I already sent out the request and unlike Josh I contacted an actual mma gym instead of a kiddy karate mcdojo
Keep posting the pic where you want a promoter....shows you are trying to give yourself an out. Why did it matter if it was a karate gym or mma gym. Isn't the whole point to fight someone?
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From my readings, bodybuilders say the "clinics" prescribe as much GH as you want, it's mostly a financing issue, you get as much as you are willing to pay for. Furthermore, bhank knows the prescribed GH is very expensive and the prime Chinese is a fraction of that, so he might have a GH script and uses mostly Chinese GH. Of course I could be wrong but this is what I would do if I felt I needed a GH script for legal reasons. ;D
I've seen prescribing info for GH in cases of damage to the pituitary gland or idiopathic low GH/IGF-1. They go by IGF-1 levels and the starting dose by legitimate endos start at .8iu and might be raised to 2iu but I doubt they would increase much more. I've said here many times that the GH scripts aren't really legal, the FDA, some years ago, said GH should only be prescribed to dwarves. Or is it midgets, I forget the difference. :D The other legit reason is if you have damage to your GH releasing glands, or maybe if you even had them removed due to brain cancer. So the authorities could move on all these "HRT Docs but my impression is that they've already given up trying to enforce the law. BTW, my aunt went to an opthalmologist who asked if she's ever had her GH levels checked. It's very interesting that the eye doc suspected such, maybe by her eyes or her general physiognomy, things like ears or nose or whatever, I'm not sure lol. And what do you know, her GH was sky high due to a pituitary tumor which they removed through the nose... she dropped about 20lbs of fluid due to the GH reduction!
Jay Cutler has told bodybuilders to take as much GH as you can afford, other bbers have said the same. My roid dealer said he is gouig to do one single last prep for a show as he asked around and said other top amateurs in Europe used as much as 40iu a day which he isn't willing to do. I told him that dosage isn't necessary. He has been doing 10iu for a couple of years but now said he is going to 5iu because of finances, even though he sells the shit. I told him, knowing he's been as high as 4 grams of AAS, to continue the 10iu, but I would try to increase to as much as 20iu for his final push phase and then contest prep, just to make it really count. Those knowledeable say 20iu is very common in Europe, a bottle morning and night, all due to the cheap China generic. Some of it has been tested at 15iu in a supposed 10iu bottle!
My 60 year old training partner has been taking 4-5iu of GH for years but came off it because he felt it caused a lot of water retention, and he especially complained about face bloat. He lost 10lbs in a week dropping the GH, and now he paused the roids for 6 weeks and dropped a further 10lbs. I told him why not continue GH but lower to 1.5-2iu, as even that is increasing his probably nonexistent GH (due to age). But then he said "but I feel minimum is 4-5iu to actually 'feel it'" He is surprisingly strong and big considering age, though he carries a lot of excess fat, last year he made a deadlift PB after having juiced for 40 years and lifting for 45 years lol. I think the GH is probably helping him in a big way, I told him if I was him I'd at least take a "true" replacement dose, I would be afraid of losing my edge dropping all of it lol.
Regarding GH contributing to cancer, there was a recent paper where scientists argued that GH increases immunity so could "catch" cancers even before it develops. Then there is a study involving GH, DHEA and Metformin which reduced biological age (measured by biological clocks) by 2 years! The driver for this effect they think is all due to the GH, those other drugs were to combat the predictable insulin resistance, which of course is harmful. So it may increase the rate of cancer development but otoh it may decrease the incidence of cancers too!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5348436/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6826138/
The purpose of the TRIIM trial was to investigate the possibility of using recombinant human growth hormone (rhGH) to prevent or reverse signs of immunosenescence in a population of 51‐ to 65‐year‐old putatively healthy men, which represents the age range that just precedes the collapse of the TCR repertoire. rhGH was used based on prior evidence that growth hormone (GH) has thymotrophic and immune reconstituting effects in animals (Kelley et al., 1986) and human HIV patients (Napolitano et al., 2008; Plana et al., 2011). Because GH‐induced hyperinsulinemia (Marcus et al., 1990) is undesirable and might affect thymic regeneration and immunological reconstitution, we combined rhGH with both dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) and metformin in an attempt to limit the “diabetogenic” effect of GH.
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Keep posting the pic where you want a promoter....shows you are trying to give yourself an out. Why did it matter if it was a karate gym or mma gym. Isn't the whole point to fight someone?
Again where the fuck do you see the word promoter???? I sent a request to an mma gym I am waiting to hear back
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Keep posting the pic where you want a promoter....shows you are trying to give yourself an out. Why did it matter if it was a karate gym or mma gym. Isn't the whole point to fight someone?
Because there is no MMA fights between adults at kids karate gyms. They do them every fucking day at adult mma gyms
You are the one looking for an out now not me. I am in let's do this
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I'm looking forward to seeing Brian gas out in 45 seconds and claim his shoulder is done.
this is in the car on the way to Raleigh by the way.
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Does brian still think TRT is 350mgs a week?
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Because there is no MMA fights between adults at kids karate gyms. They do them every fucking day at adult mma gyms
You are the one looking for an out now not me. I am in let's do this
how would you know. you've never trained MMA
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how would you know. you've never trained MMA
he turned up for his fights with zero prep, he has never even sparred before he fought, no mention ever of him training at any MMA gyms
What a fucking loser.
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that was clear
his pushing was fucking awful
he was beyond ineffective on the ground and pound
good news is he is now 15 years older with less training
I asked if his opponent was heavier would he run away- he didn't respond. its another out
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that was clear
his pushing was fucking awful
he was beyond ineffective on the ground and pound
good news is he is now 15 years older with less training
I asked if his opponent was heavier would he run away- he didn't respond. its another out
his delusion made him think he could just walk through his opponents, hes the same now calling everyone out.
In his mind he is unstoppable
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he convinces himself of something
then gets taken down 3 times and gives up
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he convinces himself of something
then gets taken down 3 times and gives up
........and still calls it a win! :D
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And Brian vacates this thread still thinking real TRT is 350mgs a week
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and refusing to reveal his HGH doseage
he's megadosing
for what?
hopefully a slow young death.
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Because there is no MMA fights between adults at kids karate gyms. They do them every fucking day at adult mma gyms
You are the one looking for an out now not me. I am in let's do this
Explain to me how that is construed as an "out"
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Again where the fuck do you see the word promoter???? I sent a request to an mma gym I am waiting to hear back
Where? Ummm lines 3 AND 4 you mention promoter. You allegedly typed it...and YOU did the screen shot. Seriously, are you bi-polar?
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and refusing to reveal his HGH doseage
he's megadosing
for what?
hopefully a slow young death.
People refusing to disclose dosages know deep down their drug use is non-consitent with their results (or lack thereof.)
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that was clear
his pushing was fucking awful
he was beyond ineffective on the ground and pound
good news is he is now 15 years older with less training
I asked if his opponent was heavier would he run away- he didn't respond. its another out
By all means you can all come and get in line I will fuck everyone of you up
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and refusing to reveal his HGH doseage
he's megadosing
for what?
hopefully a slow young death.
How does a man with tits now become the expert on what mega dosing HGH means?
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Explain to me how that is construed as an "out"
We don't need a gym I can give you pavement if you prefer
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Where? Ummm lines 3 AND 4 you mention promoter. You allegedly typed it...and YOU did the screen shot. Seriously, are you bi-polar?
Am I asking for a promoter? Fuck no I am saying we are not getting a promoter can we use your gym stop making excuse stop being a bitch and lets go
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We don't need a gym I can give you pavement if you prefer
Brians taken a few too many puffs on the bravery vape
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We don't need a gym I can give you pavement if you prefer
The question was how was me pointing out your propensity for a Crohns flare up as anything other than an excuse on your part.
Your answer is irrelevant
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Am I asking for a promoter? Fuck no I am saying we are not getting a promoter can we use your gym stop making excuse stop being a bitch and lets go
Your statement was :
Again where the fuck do you see the word promoter???? I sent a request to an mma gym I am waiting to hear back
I told you that you mentioned it in lines 3 and 4. Doesn't matter if you were asking or telling. Point is that you SAID / TYPED it....not once, but TWICE!!!
You just admitted it in the first quote again. No one is making excuses except you Brian. Need I remind you that yours have included :
1) You don't know what you are doing next week
2) Your pec surgery
3) Your house sale
4) Some bullshit bodybuilding show
(and whatever else I might might have forgotten)
Once again, you are caught talking out of your ass.
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I just noticed how Brian took this thread away from his TRT lies by going back to fighting on the pavement, a topic he has avoided since I called his bluff about him coming to England to fight me.
Its his MO, cover the alst lie with an off topic brag or boats that people will jump on.